and that's it for today. have a great week. and we'll see you next "fox news sunday." countdown to a super tuesday in the race for the white house again. and will it be a make or break moment for any of the presidential candidates? let's look at something that's happening right now. live gop contender ted cruz, looking ahead to indiana apparently. because that's where he is. a rally set to get under way in evansville, indiana. this is the old national events plaza, just dipping in to show you this, as one of the live events this hour. we'll show you others as they pop up. but before that state goes to the polls, pennsylvania, maryland, delaware, connecticut, and rhode island are getting ready to have their voices heard. 118 republican delegates up for grabs. 384 at stake for the democrats. pennsylvania, the big prize on tuesday, the latest "wall street

journal" polls showing donald trump has a big lead there with 45% support. senator ted cruz, as we showed you his stage moments ago, is in second with 27%. governor john kasich is in third with 24. so a lot of tightening between those last two there. and with a path for victory coming down to the wire, every state at this point matters. and the hunt for delegates is getting even more intense, as you might imagine. both trump and cruz each say they are confident the numbers will add up in their favor. >> i only care about the first. we're not going for the second and third and fourth and fifth. here's what i say is his problem. i think we get that 1,237. i have a senator, i have a governor. they both are statistically mathematically gone. they can't win. >> there are two people and only two people that have any plausible path whatsoever to winning the republican nomination. me, and donald trump. as i said, plausible path.

>> and for the democrats, hillary clinton leading senator bernie sanders 55% to 40%. we have fox team coverage. kristin fisher is live for us in washington, d.c. with new developments on the democrats' side. first, let's begin with senior national correspondent john roberts, who is live for us in hagerstown, maryland, with the latest on the gop. john? >> reporter: the donald trump campaign looking for a big win here in maryland on tuesday. the real clear politics average, he leads john kasich by 15 points. leading ted cruz by 17. trump hoping to pick up the 38 delegates that are available here. because it is a winner take all state by congressional district. in fact, trump looking to run the table on tuesday, and take home the lion's share of the 172 delegates that are available on the republican side. that would put him within reach of hitting the 1,237 majority needed to clinch the nomination before the convention. trump is confident, as you heard earlier, that he'll win on the first ballot at the convention, insisting that based on his

record during the primaries, he is the only logical choice to be the nominee. >> so he goes in, and one by one knocked out a governor, knocked out a senator, knocked out a governor. and now there's two guys that are limping. they're limping. they're mathematically out. i'll tell you what. if a guy that is losing by all those millions of votes wins, i'll tell you what. we'll have some people that are going to be very, very angry. >> by some analyses, it would really mean that for all intents and purposes, this nominating purpose would be over. even if ted cruz were to win every single delegate left between then and the seventh of july, he could not clinch the nomination. then it would be up to those unbound delegates on the republican side to determine whether or not they want to go into july, and have a big floor fight at the convention. and what that potentially could do for the party. >> yeah, you know what, i don't know that ted cruz is necessarily going to listen to

that, because i haven't seen any signs that he's going to give up, have you? >> no, there are no signs that ted cruz is going give up. to the contrary, harris. he's going to fight even harder. that's why he's in indiana today. he also hopes to pick up a good number of those unbound delegates who are directly elected in the pennsylvania election on tuesday night. in indiana, which is a very large evangelical population, about 31%, that would rival some of the other big evangelical states we talked about. cruz made an appeal to them. very strong ties with israeli. reminding folks there today about being a neutral broker between israel and the palestinians. here's cruz. >> and, you know, anyone who can't tell the difference between our friends and our enemies, anyone who can't tell the difference between israel and islamic terrorists who want to kill us, that raises real questions about their fitness

and judgment to be commander in chief. >> so cruz is not stopping, but donald trump's campaign is not ceasing and calling for cruz and kasich to get out. his son eric was on judge janine last night, saying they should do it and do it quickly. but there's another thing starting to bubble under here, harris, that i think is worth mentioning. there's some people in the republican party, in the rnc who think the ultimate play by members of the establishment is neither trump nor cruz. it's to run out the clock on the july convention. play for a stalemate in which case you would have to have a second convention, probably sometime in late august at which all 2,472 delegates would go into that unbound, basically they could bring anybody onboard that they wanted to as a nominee. can you imagine if that happened? back in 1860 for the democrats, that's how stephen douglas became the nominee. >> i remember that part of our history studies, but you said something that was really

interesting. a second -- so what would that do for the money? i mean, can you unleash the money within the party, the -- not the donations, but the funding there for that candidate? i mean, that's awfully late to be able to tap in. >> it would. i mean, clearly, there would be a fundraising flurry. not even saying that it's plausible or possible, but it did happen once in 1860. if members of the establishment really didn't want trump or cruz and couldn't get kasich to rise during the july convention, that would really be the only play to bring in a dark horse, a paul ryan type figure. nobody wants that to happen. it could literally blow the party apart. there are some people who are members of the rnc who think that's what some folks may be playing for. >> john roberts with the fox news political insiders today. now let's go on to the democrats, and another live event to look at. senator bernie sanders holding a rally in new haven, connecticut.

we understand michael stipe held their own event. both candidates making their case to voters in the northeast. >> so many of those comments, those insults, the kind of demagoguery, you have to ask yourself, what really is at stake in this election? and one of the things that is at stake are our rights. >> and i would hope that rhode island adds its name to the previous other 16 states in saying we are going to go forward with a political revolution. >> it just gets more interesting by the second. kristin fisher has details. >> sanders sent some very subtle conflicting signals on several sunday shows this morning. on one hand, he said he is not getting out. he's in this race and he still

sees a narrow path to the nomination. on the other hand, he also seemed more willing to discuss what would happen if clinton does indeed win the nomination. specifically, what you would need to do in order to win over his supporters. but if you thought that that meant sanders might be ready to back off clinton on the campaign trail, you'd be wrong. today at a rally in rhode island, he accused her of hustling billionaires of campaign contributions. he also asked her about climate change. >> madam secretary, if you are concerned about climate change, listen to what the international communities are saying. join me and impose a tax on carbon. >> but clinton made zero mention of bernie sanders. she had two events today. one in pennsylvania, another in connecticut. >> when people run for office on the tea party or whatever else,

and they say they will never compromise, they are basically denying the fundamental tenets of democracy, where we get together, we make progress together. >> the fact that clinton rarely even mentions sanders by name shows you how confident she is that she has this nomination locked up. another sign, according to "the new york times", her campaign is already seriously discussing who her running mate might be. >> we saw some interesting names on that list. deval patrick on that list. so what are we looking at in terms of who we think will walk away with delegates? >> the latest polls have clinton beating sanders in four out of the five states with primaries on tuesday. pennsylvania, connecticut, delaware, and maryland. the fifth state, rhode island, it hasn't received a lot of attention. there's been barely any polls there. but if sanders is able to pull out a win, it will likely be rhode island. that is one state that allowed

independents to vote in the democratic primary, and we all know independents tend to skew more towards sanders. >> good to see you, thank you. >> here's how it works. you stay put right where you are. for a special america's town hall live from philadelphia. bill hemmer, martha mccallum will take viewers' questions live and talk to some of the candidates. you can submit a question on our fox news facebook page. let's move on to this fox news alert. new information on the mass murders of eight family members in rural ohio. officials confirming now that they have found three marijuana growing operations at the shooting scene. the attorney general spoke at a news conference just a short time ago. he called these murders a sophisticated preplanned execution. bryan llenas is following this. how does the discovery of the

weed operation affect the investigation? >> good evening, harris. three marijuana growing operations found in three of the four homes were the eight victims were murdered. it is a startling fact that was almost nonchalantly at the end of today's press conference by ohio attorney general mike dewine. the a. jmplta.g. did not say if connected in any way to the brutal murders of eight members of the families, but we do know the local sheriff says in the 20 years he's worked in that small community, he's never had problems with the rhoden family. the local pastor says the rhodens are a close-knit and hard working family that everyone knows in southeastern ohio, population 28,000. the victims, ages 16 to 44 were all shot in the head execution-style. their bodies were discovered on friday by relatives, and today, authorities say they believe without adele that it was a

calculated murder spree, and that the rhoden family was targeted. >> this was a preplanned execution of eight individuals. it was a sophisticated operation. and those who carried it out were trying to do everything that they could do to hinder the investigation and their prosecution. >> police have conducted 5 50 to 60 interviews, 18 pieces of evidence have been gathered from the home, and at this hour, police continue to search through the woods for any evidence. remember, three of the four family homes located within a mile and a half of one another, making it easy for any killer to travel on foot, harris. >> southern ohio, many people not even hearing about this area before the story. people across the country praying for the people connected to this. what is the community right next to where they were killed going through?

>> the sheriff says it's emotional for everyone involved. it is the largest case in the history of pike county. and a community where everyone seemingly knows everyone. the community should not be afraid unless you are the rhoden family. >> i spoke with the family. it's very evident that they were the target of the horrible crime. me and the attorney general spoke with them. i cautioned them that they were a target. i told them to be armed. >> a $25,000 award is being offered for any information leading to arrest, and police have received 100 tips so far. >> those victims ages 16 to 44. he was pretty clear if you're related to those people, be armed. as we do each sunday, the fox news political insiders will join me at home base. here's our list of to-dos on the headlines politically. one of the wealthiest republican donors, one of the koch brothers, said he might back hillary clinton. how is that beginning going to ?

senator ted cruz, don't count him out. he just scooped up another 65 delegates, and what john roberts threw in, we'll talk about all that. and new polls out on potential general election match-ups. who best beat potentially hillary clinton in november. this is the "fox report." i'm harris faulkner. it's true what they say. technology moves faster than ever. the all-new audi a4, with apple carplay integration. i tabut with my back paines, i couldn't sleep and get up in time. then i found aleve pm. aleve pm is the only one to combine a safe sleep aid plus the 12 hour pain relieving strength of aleve. i'm back. aleve pm for a better am. the full value of your totaled new car. the guy says, "you picked the wrong insurance plan." no, i picked the wrong insurance company. with new car replacement,

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environment. white house correspondent kevin cork is traveling with the president in germany right now. so i want to get back to syria. because this is a story that's kind of been bubbling up all day long. you know the number of troops when he would officially announce what can you tell us what's coming from the president? >> it's very interesting, harris. keep in mind, we're only talking about 50 on the ground in syria battling isis. you pointed out the audition of 250 u.s. forces in syria battling isis. that would increase to 300 the total number. that's six times the number we have on the ground battling isis in theatre. that's crucial when you think about the fact that this is a president who previously hoped to end the wars in iraq and afghanistan, and who has been successful in doing that. this adds to the dangers and responsibilities of the pentagon. harris? >> you look at the timing of things and the whys of things. why call for troops now?

they've been doing horrific things for two years or more, isis. >> yeah. it's a great question. listen. here's what i can tell you. i've talked to senior administration officials on the record and on background. generally what they say is that. if you notice a change in strategy, it's generally a reflection of success. they're having success knocking out the leadership of isis. if 50 are doing well, why not have more? that seems to be behind the decision. clearly there is a great personal risk, not just for our troops, but for the president, there's also a political risk. >> respect for the white house. i'm more concerned about our troops, and that number is still relatively small. still want to know what that mission would look like. real quickly. about the trade deal. what was said about that today?

>> reporter: a couple things. this is what i think people at home need to know about. there's this huge trade deal that would partner the u.s. and the european union. the president wants to try to hammer this thing and get it just about ratified before he leaves office in january of 2017. that's why he's also here in europe to meet with european leaders, and particularly here in germany to meet with his german counterpart, chancellor angela merkel. however, it's facing fierce opposition not just back home in the u.s., but also here in germany. despite all that in the political complications that are surrounding this, saying it still feels like he'll make his way over the finish line. it will likely happen after he's out of office. >> kevin, thank you very much. this september 11 will mark 15 years since that dark day that changed america. now, secret government documents could let victims' families and the world see who helped fund

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with the families of 9/11 victims waiting to see will they ever see any of those 28 pages of classified information on saudi arabia, here's what we know at this hour. the obama administration is believed to be on the verge of releasing some of those secret documents. they could shed light on possible connections to terror attacks on america that left nearly 3,000 people dead. the redacted pages address some of the hijackers' received foreign support before the evil they unleashed. here's garrett tenney with more. >> reporter: the white house has been moving in this direction the last couple weeks. just a few days ago, ben rhodes told reporters at least some of

the classified 28 pages would be released. many people believe those pages at the congressional inquiry into the 9/11 attacks contain evidence that members of the saudi government provided aid and support to the 9/11 terrorists. neither the congressional inquiry nor the 9/11 commission found any evidence of senior saudi government officials funding the 9/11 terrorists. but critics say that doesn't rule out lower level officials or other members of the royal family being involved. >> most important question of 9/11 is did these 19 people conduct the very sophisticated plot alone, or were they supported? and i think all the evidence points to saudi arabia. >> two sources who have read the 28 pages tell fox news the data draws connections between several of the hijackers, and some of saudi arabia's wealthiest individuals, described as one percenters. many current and former officials believe in the end, these documents may not live up to speculation that's grown over the last 14 years.

>> i think that the ideas about what the saudis may have done are probably far diverging from what actually happened. so release the 28 pages, let people make up their minds. >> this comes amidst growing pressure from the white house over the last few weeks to release the documents from the families of 9/11 victims and members of congress in both parties. the white house is expected to make its decision sometime in the next several weeks. harris? >> thank you. a state senator in minnesota is pushing to make the official state color purple in prince's honor. senator karen housley plans to present that tomorrow. prince was found dead in his home on thursday. his family celebrated his life following his cremation this weekend. investigators say they will work to determine exactly what happened to them. a lot of people talking about their connection. so i thought i'd share this. my husband, whom i was dating at the time, was one of the few reporters to visit paisley park. no cameras, he tells me, no recordin devices allowed. just the journalist and prince. he remarks that day seems to

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you're watching "the fox report." i'm harris faulkner. five candidates battling it out in tuesday's primaries. we've been talking about it, and now we're ramping up. they'll make their choices in both nomination contests on tuesday. 118 dell got egates at stake fo republicans. 384 for democrats. and now the buildup. bill hemmer, martha mccallum

joining me live from philadelphia. wow! you guys have friends. john leboutillier, will you regime like that for me? you're hosting america's town hall atop the hour. and first, i'm going to ask you about the format. >> we have an amazing crowd. we're going to bring them back to new york with us and pretty much everywhere we go, right? >> good evening. we are in historic philadelphia. and we've got 300, 400 very eager folks here who will -- well, they'll be voting on tuesday. and this is one of the main five states. so we've come here to figure out what is on america's minds as we get ever so close. >> we're really excited to be here. we're going to get their pulse for what's going on here in pennsylvania. a lot of important rates ahead. we're going to have a good conversation with john kasich. ted cruz as well. we're going to talk about the race on the whole. we've got lisa booth and ted hayes. our good buddies are here. a lot of energy in this room. >> all right.

>> so, martha and bill, can you guys hear me? >> a little bit. okay, you got me. it's like super tuesday part 5 or something. and it seems like a good time to talk about really who has a make or break day this week. who was that really for? >> wow. >> i think it's obviously -- it looks to be a very good day for donald trump on tuesday. so the rest of these folks are going to have to carve out all the delegates they can. we know ted cruz is going to be masterful. >> 1,237 is the number. that's what the rnc says. you have to get to 1,237. can you do that before the seventh of june? >> interesting. >> that's what tuesday is about, right? >> so much going on. >> a lot at stake on tuesday on both sides. >> ted cruz picked up another 65 delegates last night. donald trump's camp says they can get to 1,400. we will see it all. we'll be watching you at 8:00

p.m. eastern. >> 8:00. >> see you! >> bye. new signs of doubt within the republican party to tell you about now. conservative super donor charles koch is not ruling out supporting hillary clinton if she makes it to the general election. here he is from earlier. >> is it possible another clinton could be better than another republican? >> it's possible. >> you couldn't see yourself supporting hillary clinton, could you? >> well. we would have to believe her actions would be quite different than her rhetoric. let me put it that way. the republican candidates, before we could support them, we'd have to believe their actions could be quite different than the rhetoric. >> interesting. this is the same thing about republicans and democrats with regard to this particular race. let's bring in the fox news political insiders, pat caddell, former pollster for president jimmy carter.

doug shoan, former pollster for president bill clinton. and a fox news contributor as well via satellite. and right next to me is john leboutillier, former republican congressman for new york. i'm going to start with you, doug. and really, a revelation. and we don't have to read between the lines. charles koch said this. what are your thoughts? >> well, i think what he's basically saying is the seven scha chairman of the rnc said, is they're going to do everything they can to stop donald trump. he's i think poised, as martha said, to have a big day on tuesday. he's getting close to that 1,237 threshold. but candidly, i think the comments from charles koch and indeed the rnc chairman said, is that the establishment in the republican party is going to do everything possible to deny them the nomination. >> are you worried about your political party? >> oh yeah, i've been saying to you, harris, for weeks now, that

we're watching i think the breaking up of the republican party as we've known it. and it was already happening, and then trump comes in. it was a very, very powerful handle. and he's done a great job in many ways at showing the division in the republican party. koch is one of many donors, if you read carefully lately, they don't want to give any money to trump. and they're looking at ways to keep the senate and the house and republican hands, not give any money to trump. they're worried if trump is the nominee, he could cost republicans the senate. >> and what about john kasich, pat, and ted cruz? i mean, it's not that trump is the only choice for the koch brothers, or charles koch in this position. your thoughts? >> well, obviously they're not satisfied with him, as are most people in the country not satisfied with what they're being given. i thought the most interesting thing in the koch interview, and it speaks really to the vacuum

we have, is when he said he sounds like bernie sanders. he said he agreed that the tax system in this country was rigged for the wealthy, and for big corporations and corporate welfare. i'm sure he and sanders don't agree about much. but there you are. and to some extent, trump has touched on that. what we have here, with kasich particularly, and i'll make this point, cruz has been an outsider, he seems to have paralyzed and lost his voice since before new york, and we'll see if he needs to. and trump has got some severe problems, we know. but kasich represents -- he keeps talking about which is correct. how well he does in the polls. how he's beating hillary and everyone. and i think back to rubio, who was the strongest candidate, and bush and the others, who have fallen by the wayside. and partly, it's because they have been not only establishment, but they have no

clue connecting them. he said he doesn't know any angry voters, then he doesn't know anybody in america. and this is going off. >> i want to show everybody the republican national committee chairman's response to charles koch today. watch. >> charles koch, i know david and charles, and charles in particular has oftentimes gone out of his way to appear non-partisan, and maybe he is. i don't know. but certainly they have their own activities that they work on. we have ours. there isn't that much intersection between the two. >> so, you know what, i guess the big question is does it really matter what charles koch and the koch brothers do? is that the only money out there? >> no, they represent someone that they don't talk about enough here. he's a libertarian on many issues. and to those folks, they look upon the last republican president, george w. bush, as having spent money with the republican conk out of control,

right? then obama comes in, and he spends money out of control. and they're looking, where can they go to find someone who will stop the spending? and somehow try to change the direction of the federal spending and the government. the clintons were the last ones that had a balanced budget. let's face it. so koch may be thinking these people are really not anti-business. bill clinton was pro-business. not anti-business. >> basically what he says is that everybody in this, hillary clinton and the three gop candidates have some votes. i did not hear koch say that he would support hillary. media continues to spin words. last comment from you? >> no one said he did say it. he said he was open to it. which by itself is a big bit of news. >> interesting. we'll come right back. we love it when you tune in and chime in. i'm going to get more of your questions and we're going to talk. more about what's coming up with yet another super tuesday. hit us up on our fox news social pages, twitter and facebook. stay with us.

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me the 1,237 delegates. fwhu the process, harris, he's also said you're running my entire campaign. so manafort has stopped the tweeting. he's trying to calm everything down, so that he, manafort, can make peace with the rnc. he was there last week. and win over these 1,237 delegates. the problem is he's trying to change trump. and trump two nights ago, in a rally, said i'm not going to be changed. i'm not going to let them change me. manafort tells the rnc it's all been an act and we're going to change the act now. on the right, that is not going to work. if it's an act, there's no sin certainty. it's going to hurt them. >> one of the things that people have said that they like about donald trump and bernie sanders on the left side is their authenticity. is this dicey ground for donald trump to go down? >> well, he needs to be very

careful. he's got some other problems. i've looked at the polling on this that's been out, "the wall street journal" poll particularly on candidate aspects. he got here because he was authentic and honest and touched issues that basically condemn what's going on in washington. bernie sanders has done the same thing. they are appealing to different ends, as i said before, drinking out of the same troth on different ends. it is an amazing moment here. trump better be careful of how he modulates this. it's one thing to give serious speeches. but his problem, if you look at the polls, is his temperament and his personality. hillary's problems, by the way, are -- and this is why bernie sanders continues to run well against her nationally, and in the party, because she sees music extremely dishonest, even more than trump.

and basically, is not compassionate. trump has a compassion problem. what we need is somebody who will speak, who understands what's going on in america. the problem is to many of the people involved, they don't understand they made the policies. the american people are unhappy. and they don't want to admit this. candidates who have will prosper. >> is that person running in the race, the person who pat is kind of laying out for us? >> we have a bunch of flawed candidates. and let's be clear where we are. >> well, no one's perfect. >> that's for sure. leading with me. but that being said, donald trump is the frontrunner. i do disagree with my friendjoh. he needs someone like paul manafort to try to bring the republican establishment onboard to get to 1,237. it's a statistical and political fact.

somebody like john kasich is a potential running mate. hillary does have the problems pat suggests she has. but candidly, she's in a position that she's got the nomination effectively wrapped up, and all the polling suggests that she'll consolidate her position on tuesday. so we're looking at the most likely result, two very flawed candidates, and what pat is looking for is not evident in this election. >> you know what's so interesting? i'm looking down at this tweet from monica c and it points to the fact that it would seem that some are looking at down ballot, beyond the white house, can you say the house and senate? saying they have a lower favorability rating than trump. who are you trying to save? i think that's a fair comment. >> but let's ask it this way to monica and everyone else. do you want to have hillary if she's elected have a republican house -- excuse me, have a democratic house and senate? i think then we've seen when one party has all of it, it goes off

the rails. a little check and balance has been a good thing. >> right now, donald trump is marching on. real quickly, doug, your thoughts? >> yeah, i think he's heading there, and i think indiana, as martha said, is the big state coming up right after this super tuesday. we'll see if he can consolidate. >> all right. we're coming right back with the insiders. you owned your car for four years,

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so i'm not complaining about it, although i am. >> fox news political insiders are back. so this idea of calling the system of crooked of working for donald trump, he's still winning inside of it. how important is yet another super tuesday in indiana in particular? >> well, indiana -- look, there are two things going on. one is what politicians believe, and what doug was saying. who's got the nomination, who's got the loves. indiana's critical, for whether cruz can stop trump and win in indiana. and then get to 1,237. but the issue of corruption. that's the issue here. it's the issue that dominates the country. corruption -- you want to know about corruption, the governor of virginia, mr. sleaze himself, terry mcauliffe, former dnc chairman, clinton close friend, just announced 200,000 felons can now vote, including people

who committed murder, rape. they can sit on juries. although, he did say he kept them away from gun rights. every paper in virginia knows this is an effort to help hillary clinton get votes. what kind of country have we come to? that's what koch is saying. and anyone who wants to raise this question of how washington has failed this country and the fact that we are in a dangerous moment beyond just the who's going to win and who gets the prize, read the piece by peggy noonan about 2016. we are in a crisis of legitimacy. we have the rules rigged everywhere. the rules you can't get independents in the race. the rules of the debate commission, which are fraudulent and absolute corruption of american politics. someone gets on -- every time someone taps it, they go -- the public goes crazy. what they need is someone who can give them some hope as well. >> a crisis of legitimacy is what pat was talking about.

>> every single thing he said is correct, what pat said. and here's the problem. trump was on to this last fall. but he's gotten off of it too much. he's made it too personal, too negative towards other people. >> wait a minute, he had 16 other opponents. >> they never said a word about him. they all attacked each other. they never attacked trump. trump -- >> well, that's not true. marco rubio and the appendages. it got nasty. >> the point is trump hurt trump. trump is the one who lost the message for a while. these new staff people trying to get him back on, we'll see. he caused the negative ratings to be so high. >> doug, i want to talk to you about negative ratings. i would argue maybe it's not how popular or how favorable people feel about you that even matters. is the angry as palpable -- i

guess it doesn't really matter if you're scoring high on favorability. if they vote, they vote. >> it means that partisanship matters more, and it means that attack ads matter more. when off high negative, it's very hard to get your favorability up. this means if it's trump and clinton, they'll both be attacking each other directly and through their super pacs. but john and pat are right. there is a huge crisis of legitimacy in the system, and indeed, the tweets that you read before speaks to people's frustration. >> all right. i'll share more from twitter when we come back. final thoughts with the fox news political insiders next. ♪ i could get used to this. now you can, with the luxuriously transformed 2016 lexus es and es hybrid. ♪

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any state but ohio? >> that's what trump and cruz are wondering because they each want kasich to drop out. because he hasn't won anything but his home state. his argument, we heard it earlier on the show, he hangs in, he gets to the convention, no one gets to 1,237, they turn to him as someone who did run, and he can win the election. >> all of this becomes a distraction if trump gets 1,237. your last thought, doug? >> yeah. it isn't a distraction if trump and cruz get together, run together and unify the republican party. >> pat, quick word about corruption. that's what people want to hear you talk about. >> well, i just hope that the people tonight at the town meeting, that all these washington people are coming in, open their ears for a chance. i know all the people they're talking about. and understand that their game is a game. and these people i'm sure, because they're americans, are terrified about their country.

and i think that that -- the kasich problem is a dog could beat hillary clinton if no one knew the dog. >> all right, let's move on. we've got to go. >> it's bigger and better. >> we have the town hall with bill and martha now. the national constitution center in the heart of historic philadelphia. >> just a stone's throw from where more than 200 years ago, 39 delegates signed the u.s. constitution. a document protecting the liberty of all americans. >> tonight, a special town hall event, as voters in five states get ready to vote. >> we're going to make america great again. >> we win when voter turnout is high. >> i'm the only one here with the positive message. >> tuesday is a big day. i need your help on tuesday. >> i trust the people of pennsylvania to make