two who have run washington, you would like hillary clinton or donald trump as your republican nominee. so the politics are getting very interesting. heather: it is a tough world, for sure. jon: we'll see you back here in an hour. "outnumbered" starts right now. ♪ ♪ sandra: this is outnumbered, i'm sandra smith. here today, harris faulkner, kennedy, megan mccain and today's #oneluckyguy, i don't know, we might be the lucky ones on the couch, veteran trial attorney arthur aidala is here, and he is outnumbered. well co., sir. >> i'm outnumbered and on a very special afternoon -- sandra: what do you mean? >> i am honored to be here. i am absolutely, from the bottom of my heart, honored to be between the four of you today on a very special day.

sandra: perhaps that is because it is our second anniversary. >> oh! is it? i didn'ti didn't know! [laughter] sandra: and i'm not talking about me and you, i'm talking about "outnumbered." harris: we've got some fun stuff planned. last year you brought in some delicious food, and we won't bury a little lead, but we'll give people a taste of something that has to do with you, coming up. >> thank you. thank you for having me. sandra: let's get started. in a campaign of so many unexpected twists and turns, we have this: what some are calling a hail mary. or carly. there in fort wayne, indiana, right now, ted cruz p tapping carly fiorina to be his running mate just days before voters head to the polls in indiana. tuesday's contest possibly the last chance the texas senator has in stopping donald trump from securing the nomination. just moments ago on the campaign trail fiorina saying the more

than people have an easy choice. >> what you have here is a fearless fighter who, as a conservative, understands that the thing that ails us is too much money and too much power concentrated in the hands of too few. and we need to put money and power back where it belongs; in citizens' hands, in communities' hands. sandra: donald trump wasting no time blasting this move, saying it's a waste of time that smacks of desperation. >> cruz can't win, what's he doing picking vice presidents? he's mathematically eliminated. he has is set a record though. he is the first presidential candidate in the history of this country who's mathematically eliminated from becoming president who chose a vice presidential candidate, okay? [laughter] [cheers and applause] it's a record. hey, look, honestly, i wish him well. folks, they're not going to do it for you. sandra: okay.

important distinction he's making there, arthur, to be clear, he's saying the only candidate who has no mathematical chance to move forward. i'll remind everybody july 27th, 1976, a few weeks before the gop con recommendation, ronald reagan then held a press conference to announce he is picking richard. >> wiker, but he is still had a math mathematical chance at that point. >> but what has given donald trump the success that he has achieved is his common sensical statements and his everyday man and woman philosophy. those of us who follow baseball very, you know, easily, it's like the baseball team that's eliminated from the playoffs announcing here's our starting rotation. the people on this couch and most of our viewers, they follow this stuff. they know the nitty-gritty. 90 percent of the public, they don't know about a brokered con recommendation -- convention, they don't know about things that happened in 1976. they're like, oh, he's the guy

with the most votes, so he's the nominee. that's why donald trump is resonating. he's speaking to the average working person. sandra: harris, funny enough he should use a sports analogy because carly fiorina in morning had to defend the fact when it was just back in january that she was critical of ted cruz and his campaign. harris: yeah, politics and all of that nasty, trickty, dirty and then that was monday and now it's tuesday and i love you-ness. megan, you have been in a family with a dad who's made a vice presidential puck. what's weird about this and i use that because it is for all the reasons arthur just laid out, is the timing of it. but i saw your hashtags on twitter, and you are a fan of this. why? megyn: i love carly fiorina. she rips out hillary clinton's

jugular which is what i want coming up in the election. you always look shocked when i say things like that. harris: i'll tell you why, she didn't get above the percentages -- megan: i understand i may be a conservative woman, whatever, but carly fiorina warms up ted cruz. she's going to reach out in indiana to moms, to women. how much this ultimately moves the needle, i don't know, but his campaign's in trouble, and he knows it, and he had to do something. so this is a hail mary pass. i personally am a huge fan of carly fiorina. >> they were going to team up and have this little team, him and kasich, that didn't work. sandra: well, indiana's going to be the next big test to see if that works. kennedy, what do you make of this matchup? ted cruz and saying he and carly fiorina have grown very close. here she is.

former ceo of hewlett-packard, she's an outsider, never held elected office, she could help cruz with women. kennedy: i think that's exactly what's going on here. women are going to play such a critical role that donald trump playing the woman's card, and that was his term the other night after his decisive primary victories, he was talking about if she were a man, she would only have 5% of the vote. and i think they see that as such an enormous, looming u critical bloc, they're doing whatever they can to block hillary's popularity with women. megan: when she was singing yesterday and talking about how she sings these songs with ted cruz's daughters, the implications that she's, like, hanging out with his family on the bus, it's quite a juxtaposition from what i imagine is happening on donald trump's campaign bus. if this works, i don't know -- harris: all due respect, it's a

juxtaposition between what we saw with her on the trail as well. there was criticism of her needing to soften up as well. i do think it's interesting, with your dad -- former republican knop knee, not just candidate -- choosing a woman, right? and now another choice for a woman to kind of bolster a campaign? i also find intriguing the timing of this on the heels of a big day and night for donald trump, ted cruz does this. and now with these comments about speaker boehner, i mean, those were really cutting. >> yeah, well, and they're not unheard of. it's not like he's one human being who's saying this about ted cruz. there is a bloc of people who really, like, vehemently in their heart and soul do not like ted cruz for very personal and it seems like one-on-one, it's not like i don't -- harris: boehner called him lucifer in the flesh. wow. >> strong statement. [laughter] just about donald trump and women that i think will be

rolled out a little bit more if that's where he winds up is donald trump's family. he has a beautiful, beautiful family. that is his greatest accomplishment. his sons, his daughters -- sandra: well, so does ted cruz and -- >> donald says i'm a hard, cut-nosed businessman, yet he has a loyal family who are really impressive young people -- harris: so what's your point? >> i think that will resonate with family members. megan: they were present on his reality show which was incredibly popular. kennedy: his family members, you know, particularly his oldest son and daughter, are the best brand of people in this race. >> right. i think you'll start seeing them on commercials, i think they'll be pushed much more in the forefront. sandra: megan, last word to you. you have said you think this is a good move for cruz, does it change anything? >> megan: i think it can warm

him up to voters. there's a significant portion of women in this country who have a problem with donald trump, so choosing a female running mate, i know better than anybody else, it doesn't always work. kennedy: i don't think it backfires, i don't think it's enough to overcome the lead and the momentum that donald trump has. and in indiana right now, i think cruz has to perform as big as he did in wisconsin, and he doesn't have donald trump's missteps or the big name endorsements he needs to make that big of a splash in that state. >> i agree with kennedy. sandra: speaking of all this, we're talking about playing the woman card. donald trump,n on his claim that hillary is doing just that. mr. trump on why he doesn't think his line of attack is sexist. plus, his belief that hillary has a big problem with women voters. and a shocking psa shows just what kind of vile hatred women who work in sports media can face. we'll ask what it says about our culture today k. and right after the show catch more from this

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♪ ♪ harris: donald trump is doubling down on his claim that hillary clinton's gender has given her an unfair advantage in the 2016 election following his clean sweep tuesday night. trump unleashed a pointed personal attack on hillary clinton claiming, quote: the only card she has is the women's card. and that if hillary were a man, quote, i don't think she'd get 5% of the vote. trump yesterday in numerous interviews pushed back against criticism that his remark was somehow sexist. watch. >> it's not sexist, it's true. just a very, very true statement. if she were a man, she'd get -- >> 600,000 votes? she's got 12 million votes. >> she's a flawed candidate. she's a candidate that, frankly, is i think going to be very, very -- she's not going to do very well in the election. women don't like hillary, and it's very interesting. and if you noticed, i did very well last night with the women. the women gave me great marks and a great percentage. harris: meanwhile, when asked

for her reaction, carly fiorina had this to stay on "the kelly file." >> i think that donald trump, honestly, has trouble with strong people who stand up to to him whether they are men or women. and i mentioned that the character, someone's character is revealed in the pattern of their lives. so i, for example, think that when we had a terrorist attack in brussels and donald trump immediately pivoted to attacking heidi cruz, that reveals his character. and he cannot be our nominee. harris: donald trump is a lot of hippings, but arbitrary is probably not one. it's like the nickname he picked for hillary clinton, "crooked hillary," there must be something to show that this would resonate with his particular supporters. why go there? >> because i think you're protect. i think -- i don't think he just is as haphazard as he comes off to being, as being.

and i will tell you there are lawyers who i know who it seems like they do everything off the cuff. what you don't see is from 10 p.m. to 3 a.m. they're in their office working, studying, preparing. and i think there has to be people around donald trump that we don't know about that he's done a great job of keeping on the sidelines that there's some strategy here. i sat on this couch with you guys in august, and i was the first one to be so dismissive of donald trump. right after he announced. we won't hear about him in two weeks. harris: i remember you said that. >> clearly, i was totally, totally wrong. [laughter] there were so many more, quote-unquote, substantive people in the race at that time, governors and senators and people who on paper are more prepared. and i do think, and rudy giuliani said this many times, he is the type of wildcard that there's a lot of real estate between april 28th and election day. he's the type of wildcard that can turn the tables and bring women into his camp -- harris: you think he can. >> >> i think if there's anyone who

could do it, i think he could do it. only because he's shown -- i have no personal apinty, but look what he has done. he has taken 17 other people and knocked them to the side. or 16. sandra: so put your lawyer hat on for a second because he's quoted as saying she's guilty. he hasn't launched his full attack her yet, but he said everybody knows she's guilty, but they don't want to go after her. do you think by saying that he's suggesting that they're not going after her more on her e-mail scandal because she's a woman? >> i don't think -- i don't know if that's what donald trump is saying. i don't think her gender is playing a role in why they're not going after her. look, i will tell you my legal opinion is from what we hear as being leaked, so i don't know this as a fact, there is enough information there that a grand jury should be impaneled. so they should call in 23 citizens who get called for jury duty, put them in a room, have a prosecutor come in, have an fbi

agent say, listen, this is what we know, this is what we have. you are the citizens of the united states of america, you decide whether an indictment should come down or not. it seems like there is enough there for that. there have been cases i've been involved with, sandra, where there's a lot less than that, there ands been a grand jury impaneled. harris: your sources would be very different than the average person. [laughter] i want to, though, get back to this idea of donald trump and hillary clinton on the women card. here is what his response is to what she said. watch. >> well, i haven't quite recovered. it's early in the morning, from her shouting that message. i know a a lot of people would say you can't say that about a woman because a woman doesn't shout. i guess i'll have to get used to a lot of that over next four or five months. weaver going to do very well with hillary and women as soon as we start our process again. harris: kennedy, if anybody else

said it, what the reverb would be, but certain things work for him that wouldn't work for anybody else. is this one of those things or the exception? kennedy: i think arthur's right, he knows exactly what he's doing. i know since he's losing with women, his unfavorables are so high, so he doesn't really lose anything by presenting himself as still that authentic candidate. i think that he's going to have to make a major pivot, much larger than the presidential one that he made in his foreign policy speech where he slowed down, he read from a teleprompter, and it was a much more measured candidate than we'd seen. i think it's much more difficult to be warm and do what he'll have to do. however, you know, again to arthur's point, no one has had an answer for him yet in this election. no one has been able to shut him down -- >> rubio tried to be the tough guy, and that didn't work. harris: i want to press this, what it means to reach out to women voters. i am absolutely offended shah

somebody thinks we're all the sam. meghan: i totally agree with that. harris: i think this challenges the establishment view, and i don't mean prettily, but just kind of the way that we think about voters in blocs, all women are the same, so if you've made some angry, you're never going to get them back. meghan: if that were true, hillary would have made out well with women like bernie sanders did. women are very nuanced. there's a lot of different women in this country, a lot of pro-life women in this country which hillary clinton seems to forget. donald trump has a problem with women. statistically, any way you fly it, he's got a problem. he is going to have to do something at some point that shows he is, whatever, a little warmer or just has a little bit more respect for women. the heidi cruz thing and the picture is something a lot of women had a problem with, and at some point he's going to have to become a broader candidate. hillary clinton is incredibly

flawed -- harris: this earth theory that you have, kennedy, is fascinating. we'll move on. some heated moments on capitol hill. top military officials are getting grilled on the obama administration strategy to defeat the islamic state savages. what, if anything, is working? and donald trump laying out his america first foreign policy plan, did it help? did it hurt? we'll get into the meat of it. stay close. ♪ ♪ replace the full value of your totaled new car. the guy says, "you picked the wrong insurance plan." no, i picked the wrong insurance company. with new car replacement, we'll replace the full value of your car plus depreciation. liberty mutual insurance.

♪ ♪ sandra: a very tense day for two of the country's top military leaders, testifying before the senate armed services committee about isis and the obama administration's strategy -- or lack thereof -- to take them down. they took questions just days after president obama announced 250 more u.s. troops will head to syria. lawmakers, led by committee

chairman john mccain of arizona -- [laughter] not letting up. let's watch. >> it's really frustrating to us when you set up these strawmen that the only alternatives we have is to walk away, and the other is a prepond rantly american force. that's to not true. i say with all due respect, it's intellectually dishonest. >> the strategy didn't work, that we are not containing. so we talk about our troops, what they're doing up there, the train and equip programs in syria and in iraq, what about these new areas that they're going into now? >> exactly what are we going to do to try to move this forward, it appears it's head anything the other direction. kennedy: meghan, obviously, i want to talk to you. that's your dad. meghan: that's always interesting. kennedy: dell me about his frustration, and do we share it? meghan: we agree on almost nothing --

[laughter] i like her very much, but we disagree on almost everything. kennedy: healthy disagreement. meghan: i think the frustration is our president has no strategy whatsoever. and if we ignore it, it's not going to go away. syrians are dying, flooding all across europe, isis is growing and 250 more troops, it's much like what he did in iraq. you can't half you know what this. youour president continues to wt to please everyone, and he's pleasing no one, and in the meantime, isis is growing. kennedy: you're absolutely right, he doesn't have a strategy. it's incredibly dangerous. however, i think oversimplifying the situation can make it that much worse. arthur, what can the president do this late in his administration to actually make a difference? because it seems like he doesn't want to. >> as far as i know according to the constitution, he's still the president until january 20th, so he can do whatever he wants to do. and, meghan, not because you're

here or because i have your father's to photo happening up in my office, he was a real fan of my grandfather, the boxing judge, i usually agree with your dad. kennedy, look, it's 250 special forces. it's not like just the guys, not normal people. they're not mortals, actually. but it still sounds anemic. if you're going to do it, do it. and if you're not going to do it, don't do it. what i wonder, harris, is this really barack obama's ideas, or is he listening to the joint chiefs of staff, he listening to the people who clearly know more about he does than military and says, okay, if that's what you guys think, that's what we'll do. that's what we don't really know. harris: what you're asking would be counter to everything that's been reported. we have heard that there is a rift, there is a strained relationship between some of the generals and this white house.

so for the president suddenly to be listening to them would be news, and that, in fact, is the news, we should report -- kennedy: you're right, harris, because you've heard and many people, past and present members of the administration, say we have a strategy. we actually have something comprehensively that we feel would work against isis. the president is not listening to that. how difficult is it for ash carter and joe dunford to go before the senate armed services committee and take a beating when these are not necessarily their beliefs? how hard is it for them to represent a president -- sandra: and then to get continued criticism from the likes of senator main, your father, who has not only recently, but all along the way that we've seen these gradual increases, your father has said it reminds him of the slow build-up in vietnam. that being said, what about the idea of what little strategy there is, these increases, and now 300 total troops, u.s. special forces over in syria. the continual ruling out of any

ground forces and just, and advertising to the world what our strategy is rather or than holding our cards close to our vest. >> you're making the donald trump argument: this' exactly what he said. -- that's exactly what he said. p i can't believe this president tell everyone, hey, you're the enemy, and this is how we're going to attack you. that's what resonates with common folks. why do you tell the enemy, here's what we're going to do? harris: just so people aren't completely confused by that though, they are not mutually exclusive. you can tell the american public that you have a plan and that it's going to decimate isis and do all of that and have the general standing behind you without giving them the whole rollout. kennedy: yeah x. it's overreliance on special forces. that has to be addressed because they're not immortal superheros. and they are combat forces. >> they play them on tv. they do come across, and they're very sex i. harris: takes one to know one.

[laughter] meghan: and more on isis. the president's strategy to fight group also coming under fire from donald trump who laid out his america first foreign policy strategy in a speech yesterday. while repeatedly attacking the president and hillary clinton for their world politics that he says has failed. mideast expert and trump foreign policy adviser washington leader if rest saying it's clear the current strategy is falling apart. >> we have russian planes flying over our ship. we have a divided european membership of nato as to what to do with that that crisis. we have a libya that is exploding, and if it does, it's going to take five countries in africa all the way down to nigeria. we have an isis not defeated in iraq and syria and soon to be in lebanon, and we have a deal with iran that is not working.

meghan: critics say trump's speech lacked specifics. >> it doesn't change my perception of trump or, i don't think, other people's on trump and foreign policy. it was remarkably -- he gives a speech that's now written and that he reads off a teleprompter, that this is wandering and me yappedderring -- meandering and incoherent as when he speaks off the cuff. meghan: i wanted to know your response to the speech. >> dr. krauthammer has gotten so personal with donald trump: i don't agree with what mr. krauthammer just said. i think donald is trying. he knows his weaknesses, he knows his strengths. and what he's saying is barack obama and hillary clinton are going with the nice guy routine. that's the way they want to handle this. and what he's trying to elicit in our minds is it's 1980, it's jimmy carter being the nice guy, and i'm going to come in like

ronald reagan and say it's my way or the highway to china, to mexico, to iran, to isis, and i'm going to be the tough guy sheriff. i'm going to billed up the military -- build up the military and come in like a steam roller. who do you want on your side? sandra: we often have ambassador john bolton on this couch, and he's been critical of the lack of discussion over foreign policy and lack of security. he immediately reacted to donald trump's speech on fox news yesterday, minutes after. he called it strong, impressive. he said it was right on target, and he used specific examples that he thought that donald trump were realistic goals for him if he should become president such as restarting the national missile defense system and repudiating the iran nuclear agreement. ambassador bolton gave a rave review of donald trump's speech yesterday. >> and he knows a thing or two about foreign policy. harris: even as we were watching that speech yesterday, what donald trump did fist was lay

out where the obama doctrine has failed. he had a real intimate understanding that, and i realize there was a prompter involved, but, you know, just from watching, because we covered it live here on outnumbered, we have dissected enough of these speeches and news conferences by a lot of people to wonder when somebody is kind of faking the funk. he was connected with the material. now, he's got a lot of advisers, we don't know who the lust are, but clearly he's got something behind him that's working. i do want to point out with that hearing on the hill today, defense secretary ash carter was asked about pullout of russia in syria x he said it's far from the pullout we were led to believe. sandra: in palmyra? harris: senator shaheen said what's happening on the ground in syria with regard to russia? donald trump talked about that sort of reallocation and relooking at -- i don't want to say reset, because that was not his word -- with russia. but he is even sensitive to the fact that we've got to kind of

relook at what our relationship is with russia. >> and i think his imagery is who do you want sitting across the table from the russian leader with no shirt on and, you know, what a tough guy he is, do you want hillary clinton sitting there or me, donald trump? kennedy: and he's railing against globalism which makes people think he's a protectionist and an isolationists. you can't at the same time say we have to take a more complex look at what's happening in the middle east. first of all, he laid out the case for blowback. he said we were the cause of the mess in syria, iraq and libya. and, you know, he also has to take a look at the gains that russia is making with the syrian army. >> agreed. [laughter] harris: wow. twice in one hour. >> agreed. meghan: a marine discharged after she refused to remove a bible verse taped at her desk at work. now a military appeals court is weighing her case. should members of the military be able to express their religious beliefs on the job, or

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harris: the country's highest military court weighing in on the case of a marine who was court-martialed. she argues it was partly for her expressing her christian faith. her supervisor said the bible verse language was, quote, combative and ordered her to take it down, but she refused and was charged for disobeying orders. the text read, quote: no weapon formed against me shall prosper, a play on the verse from isaiah. the government says the case is not about religion, that sterling never raised a religious objection until after she'd gotten into trouble. they also say it was an attempt to stick it to her supervisors. but sterling's attorney says it's completely about religion. >> the hostility to religion in

our military is increasing both in frequency and severity. it's unfortunate. i think it actually hurts our nation's military and anything that hurts our nation's military bad for our nation and bad more our national security. harris: arthur, you have argued a lot of cases. religion is a part or isn't in this? >> religion is a part, but just the overall tone is when you become a member of the military, a lot of the rights that the five of us on this couch have are either given up entirely or severely compromised. for example, the right against unlawful searches and seizures, right? they can't just come in in america, a police officer can't come in and kick dun your door and go through all of your stuff. but, of course, in the military, yeah, a supervisor could say open you up your foot locker, it to see everything that you have, and it's not a violation of your laws. so here what they're saying is, and there's a 1993 law that says

rule in the military that says there should be accommodations that should be made. and the military rules should be tailored so narrowly as to not to impede on your religious rights. however, harris, you have to voice those rights. you have to ask for an accommodation. you have to go in and ask your supervisor, say look, i know i'm not supposed to put bible sayings on my desk, however, i go to church every sunday, i strongly believe in this, may i do so, and then you have an issue. in the arguments in this court, this particular case, the judges were saying you never asked whether you could do this. march harris maybe she thought, you know, and i'm not inside this woman's head, but it is a common biblical quote. and apparently some of the objection that the military had was the word "weapon." >> the supervisor said i don't like the tone of that. sandra: so that federal law, 1993, it's the religious freedom restoration act. and it requires the government to seek the least -- >> right. sandra: -- burdensome, is the

exact legal language, and narrowly tailored for any law that interferes with religious convictions. okay. so you're hearing lawyers speak out about this thing. this is a historic moment for military religious freedom. is that overstating this? >> totally overstating because in the questioning by the judges to the lawyers, they're saying, hold on. because she's representing herself. they said, did you ever ask to be able to do this? did you ask for an -- kennedy: yeah. that was the objection that they kept raising. >> all you have to do is if you would have asked and he said no, then we have an issue here. because you never asked, there's no real controversy. kennedy: what happens if she loses? meghan: i think they can -- >> they reduced her rank already. meghan: there's a difference between right and wrong. i think soldiers should be allow toed to put whatever bible verse inspires them to go -- >> but it's the military, and you have to follow the rules. meghan: i know, but -- harris: she's already been --

>> she's already been reduced in rank. harris: celebrities reading mean tweets, it's a thing, yes, and it can be pretty funny. a new campaign is out to show that social women visit roll aimed at women's sports journalists is more than mean. it's got a lot of people talking, and we'll talk about it next. >> hopefully, bill cosby's next victim. that would be class in. classic. >> you know what i would say to that? >> i don't --

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asked to read some of the worst tweets directed at the two journalists. those guys who had not written the tweets did not see them in advance and when asked to do their part, well, they were visibly shakennen. >> one of the players should beat you to death with their hockey stick like the whore you are. >> there's a lot of c-word -- >> yeah. >> yeah. >> i don't think i can even say that. >> i hope your boyfriend beats you. i'm sorry. >> why bring up your own rape in the story? is it your way of firing back at critics who said you can't get any? >> that's something, huh? >> i'm sorry. >> i hope you get raped again. >> oh. >> sorry that these are directed toward you. >> so while many people were supportive of this, others claim

the experiment doesn't show that online abuse is an issue that affects both sexes. jason whitlock believes mean tweets come with the territory post, quote: twitter isn't remotely a safe place. anyone who states an opinion from an elevated platform gets mean tweets. kennedy, to you first. what do you make of this experiment? does it go too far? kennedy: no, i don't think it does. but i don't think, you know, these people should be surprised that they're getting that sort of vitriol online. we all get some pretty harsh stuff. and sometimes, yeah, women do get a disproportionate amount of hatred and misogyny that can be particularly cutting and, you know, there are some dudes -- hopefully a very small minority -- who think sports is still very much the domain of men. you know, i thought it was a courageous and interesting experiment.

but bullying does go both ways. it doesn't know sexual or racial boundary, and people will do whatever they can and will say whatever they can to hurt you as deeply as possible from anonymous platform. sandra: and that was jason whitlock's point, men are targeted as well. but when you hook at this experiment -- look at this experiment, it does focus on women and the sort of trolling that they see on twitter and facebook and social media accounts. arthur, what do you make -- >> cowards. the first word that comes to my mind, these are absolute cowards. they would never confront these women and say that, those exact thicks that you heard -- things that you heard, never look at that woman in the eye and say those horrific things. god bless the men and god bless the women because they've entered this domain. it's the children that upset me, the teenagers that are suffering with this. sandra: somebody's tweeting somebody should be raped -- >> they're sick freaks. sandra: should there be a legal

consequence? >> this all falls under first amendment, blah, blah, blah. to answer your question, i would love that, and i think many of us were, especially people who are minors, who are under 18 years old. they're not celebrities, they're not making money, they're just high school kids getting and receiving these tweets that have an effect on them that is unbelievable. it's horrible. sandra: meghan, you make it very clear that you come on the air to share your opinion every day. you have to look at your twitter feed, and you have often said just how vile some of the things -- >> i think any woman in media, it's part of what comes with the territory. the thing that bothers me the most is there's lots of young women that want to do what we do, they want to be political commentators in different realms, and the things i'm always scared to tell the teenager is you can do it, but just get ready to be told all these things on the internet that those people just said every single day of your life. and that is something you're exchanging that even i still struggle with today. and i wish people understood

that it may be anonymous, but people can track you. harris: oh, absolutely. kennedy: look at -- [inaudible] when he defended his daughter. harris: there's a difference between turning it into a threat because you could turn that into one of these -- >> harassment. it could go into harassment. harris: that harassment is not protected speech -- >> 100% correct. you understand it correctly. harris: you know, the other thing is this idea of the anonymous hit job. i don't know how you're going to do that from your phone, an ip address, somebody has to track you down, and that means a potential employer can find out. i think they should have called out -- sandra: by the way, there's a lot of spectacular female sports journalists on the planet. two on a very special day right here on "outnumbered."

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another year on the air to our big boss, roger ailes. [cheers and applause] who created the show and came up with the concept of "outnumbered," which is why you're sitting this that seat. mr. ailes, thank you for the opportunity on behalf of all of us. sandra: and we also want to thank all those behind the scenes, because there are so many of them. >> patch! [applause] sandra: i'm talking about not patch -- [laughter] >> the people in the control room. jay gets enough credit. sandra: rachel and the team in the control room as well as the floor. >> remember who hooked you up when someone wants weather on the couch. harris: she walked for, what, 44 blocks? in heels, because that he's to technology way you know how to do that in manhattan. >> ill started the show with it, and i'll end it, i really am honored to be here. you literally have had hundreds of men sitting here, they've probably done over 100 different guys-- [laughter]

harris: but it's a good thing. >> sandra, could you just chill out? i'm sorry, ladies and gentlemen of the jury, but my cohost is being inappropriate. really thank you so much for having me here. kennedy: by the way, first of all, very quickly, the most incredible people you get to meet in that very seat. lawyers, tommy chong, pat benitar and her husband. >> presidential candidates. harris: all right. you have big news, my friend. ♪ i'm going to the chapel, and i'm gonna get married. ♪ [laughter] >> there's my bride, mary ann. we've known each other for almost 18 years. it sounds salacious, but it's not. she started as hi intern -- my intern, now she's my law partner, and on saturday she will be my bride. i'm ecstatic, she's a wonderful, wonderful human being. meghan: you're putting a ring on it! harris: this is your last work event before you run off. kennedy: you're going to have

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