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robert preston and shirley jones. >> i'll take that for 1000 hours. we will see you later today and tonight 's the night happening now starts nine. by everybody. speed we be one we begin with an alert on what could be a game changer in the presidential race as voters in indiana head to the polls in a contest that could give both frontrunners and almost unbeatable edge. good morning on this today, i'm jon scott. heather: i'm heather back in for jenna lee. ted cruz has a whole lot at stake and he is campaigning hard, holding an event 30 minutes from now. that's because the hoosier state could be senator cruz's last chance to stop donald trump from clinching the nomination before the convention and that's the key word.
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jon: trump is making it clear if he wins it would quote, be over. this comes as governor john kasich essentially tipped out indiana. he is not campaigning there as part of his agreement with cruz to divide and conquer in a joint bid to stop donald trump. we have coverage with peter ducey live in clarksville indiana focusing on the democratic race but we start with matt live from terre haute. matt? reporter: good morning john. we're in the go county indiana, considered one of the most accurate bellwether counties in all of the united states. who these guys before typically becomes president. they've only got it wrong twice since 1888. we are in the county library as you can see. the line snaking from the basement all the way up to
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the entry doors, a long line of people. this is the second location in vigo county today. we ran a grocery store, people standing in a beer i'll waiting to get in and vote. here, this is a countywide electric system. people in viggo county can show up anywhere they want to vote. we ran into our friend jim one of the some of the issues in the go county people are concerned about the normal things, the economy naturally. national defense.just the role of people . political: correctness is going to destroy this country so you probably know one going to vote for. reporter: why don't you tell us anyways. >> it will be mister trump. he's not afraid to say what he thinks.i think there's more that needed in the country. stand up for what you believe, that's why we both. that's why we come and spend time out of our day to vote for somebody. it's very important. reporter: they consider this a hard-working blue-collar state. returning job to the
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workforce, is that important to you guys? >> it's very important. terre haute suffered from loss of employment like most. the constant losing of industrial jobs, we just can't put up with it anymore. we've got to do something to get people back to work. reporter: thank you for your time and when people are nonvoting they get receipt and bring it to annabelle here and annabelle up with the receipt in this box and that makes a final tally. and no, how many total voters have we seen? >> 396 right now. reporter: 87-year-old annabelle taking the final toll in viggo county. the day is still early, polls don't close until 6:00 so we will keep you posted as to who viggo voters are voting for throughout the day. jon: we will see if viggo county continue with his record of picking winners. thanks very much. heather: love that trivia. on the democratic side, senator bernie sanders hoping for a win in the hoosier state. he is hoping it will bring renewed momentum. this polls show a close race in indiana and despite being way behind in delegates, sanders is bowing to take his campaign to the democratic
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convention.does that sound familiar? peter is live today from clarksville indiana with moore. hi peter. reporter: i heather and the clinton campaign is doing damage control today for something the secretary said months ago when she was courting environmentalists about putting coal companies out of business because yesterday at a campaign stop, somebody in coal country says his family is hurting, called her out. >> i just want to know how you can say you are going to put a lot of coal miners out of jobs then come in here and tell us how you're going to be our friend. >> you know, i don't know how to explain it other than what i said was totally out of context from what i meant. reporter: she says that was a misunderstanding. equipment also making waves because she hinted her husband may get a position in her administration if elected, helping bring jobs
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back to manufacturing towns like the ones where those voters seem very skeptical of her. but as clinton talks about filling a cabinet, sanders is eyeing another midwestern upset. we saw him at a diner, he says a little rain later on tonight shouldn't hurt him too badly. he thinks the turnout should be good in indiana. we kind along with the sanders volunteer here yesterday who told us there is a sense of urgency about today's primary but not necessarily do or die urgent because they say if it doesn't go his way here there's always kentucky where the senator is heading later tonight. something about these sanders supporters, many telling us it's bernie or bust and that he is not out of the race they will lose interest. many of the sanders faithful have no plans to lined up behind hillary and this is why. >> know. reporter: why not? >> because i'm tired of voting for the lesser of two evils iguess you would say. i want to vote for whoever i want to vote for . so there would have to be a lot of changes.
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reporter: that volunteer also told us something interesting, she's making a lot of republican friends in the last few weeks because they all have something in common. they all really don't want hillary clinton as president. heather? heather: i hope to see you at that diner in indiana. jon: hillary clinton and donald trump both hoping indiana will bring them closer to clinching their party's nomination so they can focus on the general election and each other. amy stoddard is associate editor and columnist at the hill, charlie hurt, columnist for the washington times indiana is a state that ted cruz obviously has been pinning his hopes on . ab says the voters are going to get it right, he's going to be appealing to religious conservatives but it doesn't seem to be going his way. >> now, the polls show donald trump ahead. early voting there started about four weeks ago so you can imagine this arrangement
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he made with kasich which was announced only a week ago probably is not going to have much of animpact. it could have if it was done earlier. same with the endorsement of the governor, mike pence. it was a week indoors . basically the governor said he be happy with anyone on the republican side and for a couple of days is camping with ted cruz, that could have helped him if it was enthusiastic and early but it doesn't look like he was going to win and that the state needed if he was going to stop donald trump mathematically, to prevent him from arriving in cleveland with 1237 delegates. he has to win tonight and if he doesn't he could pick up some delegates in california and keep going. they always say they will keep going until they don't but that really makes it look like donald trump would arrive in cleveland at the convention with the requisite delegates. jon: what about it charlie? cruz has suggested that indiana is make or break for him but with these latest poll numbers, he seems to
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have backed off a little bit, suggesting he could lose indiana and still keep going. can he? >> ,no, i don't think he has much of a path to winning the nomination if he loses indiana or even if he wins indiana, i still don't see much of a path for him but i also don't suspect he's going anywhere. i think this has become a very important fight for him and he has made it very clear he intends to take it all the way to the convention and you know, with the democratic side, bernie sanders has sort of a movement behind him and he has a reasonable argument for going to the convention and that report you showed a moment ago with those voters saying they are never going to vote for hillary, they've been energized by bernie sanders. ted cruz really doesn't have that behind him so the argument for, while i still think he will go forward, he
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doesn't have that kind of movement behind him and i think he risks at some point alienating and turning off a lot of people in the republican party, a lot of establishment and people who support him right now if he does keep this up too much longer. jon: does donald trump have momentum right now? >> yes, the more contests he wins, the more he says the system is rigged and this is going to be over soon, the more voters in later contests are open to accepting him as a nominee and assuming this is a done deal so at some point it becomes much harder which is whyagain , if he wins indiana, ted cruz could actually probably win more delegates in california and again, maybe stop trump from getting 1237 but the momentum for donald trump was too strong and the effort put into indiana on ted cruz's behalf were too weak and too late so, there's going to be
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a surprise tonight but it looks like if donald trump takes it tonight i don't see a mathematical path for ted cruz and the momentum will be so great i think donald trump just gets the requisite delegates well on time and arrives at a convention where there's not going to be a fight. jon: charlie, donald trump was probably the best-known candidate going into this race of anybody save maybe hillary clinton but in the early going, seven out of 10 republicans were saying they could never vote for donald trump. now all of a sudden nine out of 10 are saying yes, i could vote for the guy. how did he turn that around? as we talked about all along, people may not like him but he is a genius at marketing, he's a genius at using the media , manipulating the media and a lot of people argue that's a bad thing but the truth of the matter is, that's politics. and he has transferred his
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career in entertainment to politics very well and he's used all of those things that have made him such a famous name in the entertainment business, he's turned it into pure gold in politics and i get that he could drive some people absolutely batty but he's also very good at sort of moderating himself when he needs to. we have seen speeches where he has believe it or not shown humility after winning contests or after losing contests as we saw in iowa. and i can't help but think that he will be able to do a whole lot more in the general election to turn down some of the negatives that are dogging him in ways that hillary clinton simply can't because hillary has always
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been looked at through a political lens and donald trump is still sort of finding that image for him in politics and that's why i think democrats, obviously they say they really want donald trump to be the republican nominee but you also hear them now saying i don't know about that. he's so unpredictable, he's so original. you might end up regretting that he's the nominee. jon: i know the rasmussen poll put trump ahead of hillary clinton slightly in a one-on-one national election. we will see what indiana decides. that may be premature but we will see. charlie hurts, amy stoddard, thank you both. fox news is america's election headquarters. live coverage of the battle for indiana all day long starting at 6 pm eastern. coverage with megyn kelly and brett behr, they will bring you up-to-the-minute results as they come in from indiana.
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heather: two brothers wanted in the death of a washington state couple. now that duo spotted in mexico. how authorities are trying to track them down. overseas, isis fighters continue in their assault. one hitting an american servicemember in northern iraq. the secretary of defense calling it a combat death yet we are only supposed to be advising and assisting. a live report. will hillary clinton and donald trump meant their frontrunner status in the indiana primary? how live chat up and running. go to foxnews.com/happeningnow to join in the conversation. >> ♪ (woman) one year ago today mom started searching for her words.
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junior high school teacher from las vegas arrested for having sex with a student. the 37-year-old teacher faces charges including statutory sexual seduction, engaging in sexual conduct with a student and lewdness with a child. it's not clear if the charges refer to more than one student. and a good samaritan in texas is shot dead outside a walgreens store. anthony and tell junior who was arm was gunned down in front of his life after he confronted a man who shot his girlfriend in the parking lot. that gunman is now in custody. heather: a fox news alert to bring you. this coming out of iraq this morning. us defense officials converting to fox news that the us navy seal was shot and killed near the city of most all in the northern part of the country. ask carter saying it was the result of direct fire by isis fighters. the seal was in the region serving as an advisor to kurdish forces. benjamin hall is live from our london bureau with more. benjamin, what can you tell us?
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reporter: that news breaking moments ago that this was a navy seal killed in iraq. he's the third us serviceman killed in the battle against isis since october and it shows what a pivotal, important role they are playing out there. the seal was part of a group assisting kurdish fighters north of the ice is held city of mosul. troop seven moving in toward the isis stronghold in readiness for an eventual takeover with the support of us airpower, artillery and special forces. early this morning, isis forces reached kurdish defenses pushing a few miles behind their frontline and the official has confirmed the seal was killed by small arms fire, most likely ak-47 in the attack which involved truck bombs and isis infantry. today ask carter was in stuttgart for a change of command ceremony at european command. he expects his condolences to the familyand reiterated the us commitment to the fight against isis . >> it shows you the serious fight that we have to wage in iraq. there are american servicemembers involved and that's all i know at this
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time. reporter: the us has kept up its bombing of isis targets and on monday they staged another 25 strikes. the number of us troops on the ground is 4087 but the real figure is likely to be higher because that's only troops on temporary location. the pentagon has gone to great lengths to say while this sit seal was killed on the front lines there's a blurred line between assisting and combat and as obama's announces he will send another 500 troops to iraq and syria it seems likelythey will continue to be in the line of fire so a very sad day today heather . heather: significant that the secretary of defense occurred to that death as combat. our prayers go out to that man's family and the entire navy and their servicemembers were doing so much good work. benjamin hall in london, thank you. jon: a massive effort to put out two fires on a river.
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destroyed. environmental safety officials are on the scene and that fire is under investigation. jon: voter id laws across the country could have a major impact on the november elections. in texas for example a controversial law require certain forms of id to vote but it also calls for writing the necessary id free of charge. shannon breen live in washington with more on all this. reporter: as we head into the fall election, more than a dozen states will have either new or newly up voter id laws for the first time during the presidential election. critics claim the laws are meant to suppress the minority vote and point to studies like this one from the university of california san diego which concluded won't, our analysis shows strict identification laws have a negative impact on the turnout of hispanic, black, asian americans and multiracial americans in primaries and general elections. we also findvoter id laws you
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democracy toward those on the political right. the authors of the study went on to say while they believe voter id laws need a minority turnout they can't say why . whether minority laws see the losses he signaled that they're not wanted at the ballot box arcana for the id. texas attorney kim paxton says the latter is not an issue in his state. >> if you don't have a driver's license or military id, you can get a free id from the state of texas which allows you to go in and vote just like anybody that has a driver's license or other identified form of photo id so that argument doesn't really hold water because we offer up free ids to people that don't have those ideas and all they have to do is get on. reporter: that is currently in the middle of a legal fight. the supreme court refused an emergency request to put it on hold but the underlying case is still stuck in federal court. jon: shannon breen in washington. heather: are murder trial on the move. why a judge granted a change of venue for the trial of an accused man of murdering his own son. a live report on that coming up. plus donald trump and ted
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cruz locked in a fierce battle and cruz is also taking fire from supporters of the republican front-runner. did you see and hear this exchange? it is somethingelse. we tell you about the impact it could have on the results in indiana in a fair and balanced debate coming up next . >>
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heather: welcome back. a quick look at what is still to come. round two for whole cogan against gawker. why the former pro wrestler is suing the website again
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weeks after he won $140 million against it over a sex video. under very close call after a massive tree comes crashing throughthe roof into a house . who it just missed hitting. and new information on the latest art heist in american history. why the fbi has just rated a mobsters home. you will want to hear this one. john? jon: new information in the georgia murder trial of a father accused of letting his toddler die in a hot car. a judge granting the defense motion for a change of venue, citing jurors questionnaires which he said showed a quote, pervasive knowledge of the case against justin ross harris. jonathan terry live in atlanta with an update. reporter: from the get-go, court officials knew it was going to be difficult if not impossible to find any juror with no advance knowledge of this particular case. the death of 22-month-old cooper harris who overheated in his father's suv in june 2014 made national headlines
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but lawyers had hoped to at least find prospective jurors who had not yet formed an opinion on whether ross harris haddeliberately murdered his son or whether it was all just a terrible mistake. yesterday became apparent to judge mary staley that many prospective jurors had already formed opinions about the defendant , strong opinions. >> one juror said rot in hell. i think another used the word pervert. reporter: reacting to the judges decision to move the trial,, county da vic reynolds issued this statement. while we are disappointed we understand and respect the court's ruling. whenever wherever this case is set for trial, the state will be ready. court officials are now searching for a new location elsewhere in georgia that is far enough from, county that perhaps they will find a less biased jury pool but a large enough venue to accommodate all the media and security surrounding this particular trial. that process could take a matter of weeks, pushing this
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trial into the fall. back to you john. jon: hard to believe they can go anywhere in the state and find an impartial jury. jonathan ceric, thank you. heather: america's election headquarters and we are talking about the primary day in indiana. senator capers all the campaign event in evansville on the heels of a dramatic encounter yesterday.senator cruz tangled with donald trump supporters. take a listen. >> you know that donald told the new york times editorial not to build a wall and he's not going to for anyone? sir, actually. [overlapping conversation] don't just scream and yell at each other, i'm not yelling at you. do not you know that donald words were caught on tape. the new york times reported the whole thing. a public record. that's a total lie. made up.
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heather: this video keeps going on and on and these men will give up. to talk about it, joy goldberg a senior editor at national review and philip, a writer for the washington post politics blog called the fix. bill, let's start with you. what was going on here? >> ted cruz, god bless him. he went out and saw potential voters and decided to engage them in conversation. it went poorly. one of the things we've seen over and over from trump supporters is they are very supportive of donald trump, very hard to dissuade them. if you look at exit polls, people who support donald trump made up their minds before the election are more likely to be donald trump voters. they stick with it and i think we saw some of that. ted cruz tried to reason with them. the guy said you are lying ted and he repeated what donald trump had said and that's why donald trump is
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doing well. heather: ted cruz didn't seem like he got to ticked off about it. is that a good idea to go in and have that debate with voters?>> i guess i completely disagree with phil. i thought it was fairly admirable. i agree entirely that this lunkhead that cruz was talking to was utterly on persuadable but he wasn't the guy was trying to persuade. it's like when i go around debating left-wingers on college campus i'm not expecting i'm going to convince a left-winger that i'm right and he's wrong. you're trying to persuade the audience and what ted cruz was doing was sending a single, viral thing and that was part of the goal to people who are wavering or on the fence or have only heard trump's side of things to say look, there's reasonable arguments against this and you're being sold a bill of goods. do i think it's going to win indiana? no but i thought it was worth trying. heather: how did he do? harvard educated, ivy league guy against joe the plumber. who came out on top? >> i certainly would not say this was a giant mistake for ted cruz, he got some headlines. what we saw was ted cruz making an argument against
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donald trump on national news because he went out and spoke with these but i think we also saw why thinkers is having such a challenge over the long-term.we seen his base of support start to waiver. gallup polls show his favorability numbers are dropping since donald trump appeared. since new york it seemed like he was the go to nominee. ted cruz numbers are suffering as a result. the seventh let's bring back in joan and talk about that. indiana was supposed to be ted cruz's firewall. what happened? >> i think phil is absolutely right. the momentum around trump on east coast just changed the narrative. it made people think trump is inevitable and that's become a self-fulfilling prophecy in a lot of ways. i think the indiana primary if it had been right after the wisconsin primary, this might be completely different because the momentum was all on ted cruz side but the east coast stuff completely killed cruz's momentum and now it doesn't look great for ted cruz. if he wins here he stays
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alive to fight another day but even that is an uphill climb. heather: ted cruz has a lot of good assets going for him. he's got carly there, governor mike pence, it's a conservative state and a whole lot of ads. they have run against donald trump. i'm wondering why that wasn't enough to help save him? just little momentum alone? >> i think it's early to say he hasn't been safe and one of the things we seen about it ted cruz, we saw in iowa. he went into iowa thinking donald trump had this thing locked up. ted cruz came back and did that because he had a very good field operation. donald trump has had a lot of time to figure out how to do field, get people to turn out to vote. i'm not convinced these on that. i think there's still a chance ted cruz surprises us. that does change things and it does make think people
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look at this race. do i think ted cruz is going towin question mark no i don't.i think he's not going to win because donald trump has this momentum coming out of those big wins but i think we are giving him short trip if we say there is no chance . heather: jonah, if ted cruz does not succeed in winning indiana today, how much of a margin doesn't need that it still is keeping his supporters and the dollars flowing in and keeping him a somewhat strong candidate? >> it's a model. if donald trump wins by a few points and get them majority of the delegates but not all i think cruz is committed. he can go through california. if it's a complete route, that changes things. but he's going to win a couple western states before california. that would help him but it would help him a lot more if you want indiana and i agree with phil. he the underdog but he's not ruled out. heather: he's got that deal with john kasich in new mexico and oregon that he's not going to campaign. how do you see that going down? >> there's a lot of space between now and june 7. the remaining states are new jersey and california, bladder to both in june. there's a lot of state as he pointed out.
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he's going to do decently in nevada, should do well in south dakota. there is an opportunity for him to say there is a bulwark against donald trump getting the nomination. trump will do well in other states. saying this thing is over tonight which trump is enthusiastic to do, i think that's premature. heather: it is not over yet. thank you jonah goldberg, thank you so much for joining us once again. john? the one let's check in on what's happening now with the cruz campaign. he is in evansville indiana flight his running mate carly fiorina. let's listen in for a moment. wolf barbecue incorporated. >> you want to understand donald trump, look no further than the interview he did a few months ago. when he was asked a very simple question. when the last time you ask god for forgiveness? and donald trump said he has never asked god for forgiveness for anything.
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i want you to think about that. what does that say about a person? i asked god to forgive me three times today. think about your children. do you want your children coming home and same mommy, i don't ask god for forgiveness for anything. why? because donald trumpdoesn't and if he doesn't and everyone likes him, the media praises him, i don't need to either. i love this nation .i love his people. this is not who we are. these are not our boundaries. if anyone has seen the movie back to the future to, the screenwriter says that he based the character bit 10 on donald trump. a caricature of a braggadocio, arrogant buffoon who builds giant casinos with giant pictures of him everywhere he looks. we are looking at a bit 10
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and president. i don't think we deserve that. i don't think hoosiers want this. [overlapping conversation] >> i've heard you talk about them, today feels different and i'm going to ask you a question and i sound like a broken record area . [overlapping conversation] if you say he is apathological liar , why not debate him? >> when you talk about midwestern values and good judgment, does that make you reconsider things in a different way when you consider trump's story. >> there is no doubt i'm down in the primary.
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the media is trying desperately to convince you it's over. i'm going to tell you, if hoosiers come out today and you pick up your phoneand call your friends, call your neighbors. if hoosiers come out today and vote and say no, this is not who we are. this is not america . that will change the entire trajectory of this campaign, of this primary. it will pull us back from the cliff. indiana can do it. indiana can pull us back but it takes hoosiers showing up and boating today and the country is looking at us. is looking for the judgment of the good men and women of this state. heidi and i and carly, we have traveled the state showing hoosiers respect, asking for their support,
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answering their questions. all the while donald trump lashes out at the people of this state. laughs, bullies , attacks, insults. i don't believe that america. and it is my hope, it is my prayer that hoosiers will come out and vote today in record numbers to say to this country this is not who we are. we are a people who believe in goodness. weare people who believe in manners. we are up to people who believe in generosity. we are a people who believe in honesty. we are a people who believe in life, liberty and the pursuit of happiness.that is america. that is the america i love. that is the america my father led to come to .
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we are fighting for this nation. we arefighting for who we are, for the very soul and character of this country and it is quite literally in the hands of hoosiers across the state . [overlapping conversation] jon: ted cruz making an appearance in front of the media and diners as well at a restaurant in evansville indiana. you heard there some of his appeal, especially to evangelical voters on whom he he is spending the hopes of his campaign in indiana. we will continue to keep you updated on the movements of all the candidates in that very important state today. in the meantime there is new talk of imposing a us travel ban to north korea. that idea servicing after the isolated country recently sentenced to americans years of hard labor, accusing them of acts against the state. in the meantime, tension building in the south china sea. china is denying access to a u.s. navy aircraft carrier group trying to enter hong kong.
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chinese officials so far or given no explanation for the decision. they say it's simply inconvenient for china. the relationship between the us and china specifically our trade policies became a big part of the debate in the presidential election. for more on all this, let's go to tang in asia analyst and author of the coming collapse of china.donald trump in particularhas made our trade policy with china a centerpiece of his campaign . 45 percent terrace on chinese goods. what effect would that have? >> certainly the chinese would retaliate and people say that trump would start a trade war. it's trump can't start a trade war with china. china has been engaging in a trade war with the united states for decades. it's just that we're not responding. nearly we need to respond and i think essentially the american public understands that. the question is, how do you do it? and there are many different ways and i don't know that trump has understood and comprehended the nature of really a very important initiative.
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jon: the trade we have with china obviously billions of dollars but you can't just turn off the tap like that. >> no you can't. but on the other hand you can't allow china to continue to steal american intellectual property in the hundreds of billions of dollars a year. we can't allow the chinese to continue to close off chinese market to american multinationals has really been a trend over the last years. china's trade behavior has gotten worse, not better and the united states hasn't responded. we got to respond in some way. i'm not saying a 45 percent therapist the way to go but obviously we need to do something and deal on trade in washington has really been ineffective in dealing with the chinese. >> but doesn't trade lead essentially to a more peaceful world? >> absolutely and that's the essential truth that the establishment, they are right on the general concept of trade but they've been horrible on implementation.
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when we look at the transpacific partnership for instance which is reviled by trump, sanders and clinton, this is something to tie the region to the united states to prevent war.as we've seen in history when economies d-link, often they do go to war so there's a lot at stake here for us to be on the chinese obviously telling our aircraft carrier you cannot dock in hong kong. hong kong, they have been making more military threats in the east and south china sea. it appears to be a very belligerent nation that operating sort of on a hair trigger right now absolutely and with the status carrier group that made plans to go to hong kong and china basically canceled it, what we need to do is we need to
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then turn around and say to china look, we are not going to go to hong kongwe're not going to put millions of dollars into your economy. what we will do is we will go to for instance taiwan and by doing that we help taiwan's economy which does need assistance but moreimportant, we say to the chinese that we stand with asian democracies, especially those threatened by beijing. this is an important statement for us to make and we haven't made that statement. not this administration, not the one before it . jon: the islands where they go back airbase out of what had been essentially a coral reef , the us kind of shrugged his shoulders and let this thing happen. now the chinese are doing it again in another part of the china sea right? >> barbarous role in this is worse. china has occupied those features in the strategies for decades. this is one thing to reclaim those, it's another thing to grab this scarborough shelf from the philippines in 2012 and now to make it a permanent acquisition. this is where i think the united states needs to draw the line because if we don't do it here it's only going to be someplace else. when we did not confront china over scarborough they ramped up pressure throughout the region.
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jon: doesn't this run the risk of some kind of military confrontation? >> yes it does but the issue for us is not risk versus no risk. right now we have backed ourselves into such a horrible place that we have to choose from really bad options . we have no good options and that's our fall because we could have stopped this along time ago but we didn't do it. jon: gordon chang, always a little frightening to hear your thoughts but we appreciate them anyway. thank you. heather: like a good old mystery question mark there is a guy who is allegedly linked to a decades-old art heist. he now gets a visit from the fbi and the they are doing digging in his yard. why prosecutors believe he knows where to find $500 million worth of stolen art . >> protection
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jon: with take a peak at what's coming up on outnumbered at the top of the hour. sander and harris, what do
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you have? voting underway in indiana where donald trump is looking to deliver a knockout blow to ted cruz cruz said he will continue no matter what. is that a good idea? plus, hillary clinton confronted by hundreds of protesters and a laid-off coworker in west virginia. what she now says about her stance on coal and whether she's just pandering to voters. calling it a flip flop. no matter what you think of the political candidates, a new warning about why you should not talk about politics at work. that does cover a lot of people. all that plus our hashtag one lucky guy. america's newsrooms own will hammer on this special tuesday will join us. outnumbered at the top of the hour . jon: doing double duty today. >> triple duty i'd say. jon: we will see him tonight as well. we see you at the top of the hour. the seven new information today on a notorious art heist that took place in boston years ago. the fbi rating the home of a
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reputed mobster, his name is robertgentile . likely in the search of $500 million worth of precious paintings. those works include three rembrandts, all stolen from the garden museum in boston in 1990. a federal prosecutor aims gentile tried to sell the paintings to an undercover agent last year but that deal through. let's talk with ed davis, he served as police commissioner for boston for several years. i used to live up there and this was a big story when it happened and has remained so for some time. how on earth as this remained a mystery for 26 years? >> it's true heather. it's a fascinating story. it goes way back and there have been a series of developments that have occurred, especially over the last five or six years and people are feeling very confident that there will be a positive resolution to this . it's an unusual case though. >> why do they think there
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are positive developments, what are they? there's been a significant amount of work done since rick the laurier became the special agent in charge of the boston office. he's worked closely with a man name anthony moore who was the director of security for the museum and they really turned up the heat on the people who have been mentioned as possible suspects for the last five or sixyears. that's resulted injuries of search warrants that have been done and therewas one executed in connecticut at the home of one of the main suspects . jon: heather: that's robert gentile . so this mobster of sorts is how it's been described tell us about him and how he might be connected . >> came to light a few years ago when a second man who had died, his wife told the authorities he was negotiating with gentile for the sale of the paintings. the fbi has interviewed him. the on lie detector tests on him that he's failed. there's been a significant amount of evidence that would
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point to the fact that if he didn't steal the pieces, he was in the chain of people who received them so that's why they are focused on him and there really focused on getting the paintings back the senate so he's an older man in his 80s. they just did that search on his house, did they find anything? >> they haven't found anything reported as of yet. the united states attorney is in charge of that component of the case but the boston agency and mister moore are still very heavily involved in the investigation. heather: help me think through this. what kind of market is therefore very well-known, very expensive art? you can't just take this stuff to a store and sell it. >> right that's the biggest problem with these pieces. they are so well-known and so expensive , this was the single biggest theft of real property in the history of the country so everybody's on the lookout for the paintings. unless you were to find a very wealthy dishonest
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investor somewhere in the world that wanted to put these in a private galley gallery where no one could see them, that the only market you have for them. heather: so those things exist in the movies, those secret galleries in people's palaces or something? is that your experience? >> know, in my experience it's been that these are much more sort of street-level people that specialize in this type of that and once they get their hands on them, unless they have a state place to sell them before they stolen their difficult to get rid of. heather: and david, thank you for your expertise and i hope you get that stuff back. such incredible triggers for that beautiful museum. and davis, former police commissioner in the city of boston. jon: new in the next hour, mother nature puts on a show in our nation's capital. before pounding the region with heavy winds and rain. the latest on the storm damage there. plus, new developments in the
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jon: they still have empty frames on the goard enter museum. >> they still do john john hope they get them back. >> "outnumbered" starts right now. harris: this is "outnumbered." i'm harris faulkner. here today, sandra smith, jedediah bila, democratic strategist, julie roginsky, today's #oneluckyguy, coanchor of "america's newsroom," all around this day on primary tuesday, bill hemmer. outnumbered and out and about. hello. >> how are you, ladies? rube did i red indiana, here we go. evansville hasn't gotten this much attention since william ronald hemmer married georgia mary nittle. august fifth, 1960.

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