>> happy mother's day to you and to your mothers. hope you have a great day. >> pull my skirt down for my mom. >> i don't have that problem. >> you are lucky. >> thank you for watching. on the buzz beater this sunday, donald trump defies media skeptics essentially clinching the gop nomination as ted cruz and john kasich drop out and the pundits face a very different republican reality. >> as of tonight, with ted cruz getting out of the this race, bill, donald trump will be the gop nominee. barring something cataclysmic. the numbers are just there. >> great that it would end that donald trump will win the nomination of the republican party. >> you also sent a note to our producers. it was four words. i want to die. can you expound on that at all this morning?

>> this is -- this is a cataclysm. the republican party today is like rome on the morning after the night with the barbarians came through the gate. right? >> what's the impact of many conservative commentators saying they are still in the never, ever, ever trump camp? some republicans from paul ryan to the bush family balking at the nomination, should the press portray this at a mrpolitical earthquake. >> have you ever read what hillary clinton did to the women that bill clinton had affairs with? they're going after me with women? give me a break, folks. >> hasn't trump been saying in interviews he wouldn't go there unless he was provoked? our all-star lineup includes cbs's leslie stahl and fox's trish regan. i'm howard kurtz and this is mediabuzz.

it was over in a flash. one minute the press was obse obsessing whether donald trump could win 1237 delegates. then after a smashing victory in indiana, ted cruz abruptly dropped out of the race. the journalists and pundits scoffed at trump's chances had to acknowledge what they once called nearly impossible. >> i didn't think -- not only did i not think he would win, i didn't think he was really running for president. i thought he was trying to drum up some kind of publicity for himself. >> i remember sitting in this building the day donald trump announced. it's a fringe situation. these people, it's not going to happen. that core group of a third of the republican party proved to be enough -- it was enough so that donald trump could prevail in the end. he could outlast the world. >> trump became the de facto nominee when john kasich dropped out. some conservatives denouncing him such as fox news contributor

george will and trump not surprisingly was quick to hit back. >> what do you say about george will? he wrote a column this morning that it's conservative's duty to make sure you lose all 50 states. >> george is a major loser. nobody watches him of the few people listen to him. it's over for him. i never want his support. >> joining us now to analyze the coverage heidi presbela, gail trotter, a commentator and simon rosenberg. heidi, as these journalists and pundits who said trump's nomination wouldn't happen, now they are telling us he faces incredibly long odds in the fall. do the media face a credibility gap? >> yes. if you remember when he started out, we were comparing him to herman cane.

so i think it wasn't just at the beginning. it was throughout the process. the writing was on the wall after he swept all of the southern states. there's a couple things that went wrong here. >> deny continues? >> it's the polling was all over the place. i think fundamentally, we have shifted away from as well the more shoe leather reporting that i think is so valuable and could have been valuable in this election and it just didn't get done. the obsession with the scoreboards and counting up the points and calculating everything. >> the skep acenarios. >> instead of getting out. i hope we will learn from that and that as we go forward, we will do the shoe leather reporting and we will actually compare their plans versus just the tit for tat. >> gail, what's unprecedented here is so many prominent conservative commentators still staunchly opposing the republican nominee. how much does that matter?

>> it helps donald trump, because it confirms his narrative. his rejection, his disavowal -- we had this discussion about him disavowing david duke. it wasn't strong enough. he is disavowing the republicans party of the conservative establishment. that helps his narrative. that's where i think cruz had a stumbling belong because he took on jeb bush's endorsement. donald trump is doing just the opposite. he is saying, jeb bush refuses to support me despite the pledge, i don't need him. >> i'm glad you mentioned the pledge. nobody in the media is hardly mentioning the fact jeb bush and l lindsey graham did sign the pledge which didn't mean anything. liberal commentators are ratcheting up. do they underestimate him? you talked about this during the primaries that your side might be underestimating the donald. >> on this show, we discussed this in the first few weeks that trump was -- got into the race, that even the republicans were

underestimating him. both bernie sanders and donald trump were heavily underestimated by the media. sanders came close to winning the democratic nomination. got very little press coverage. was never taken seriously on our side. yeah, i think it's been very hard to cover this election. i think there's -- uas you pointed out, people haven't been reporting from the ground. there's something in the air this cycle that the national media has been very slow to catch up to. >> you mentioned issues, heidi. the question of taxing or raising taxes on the rich and possibly being open to a minimum wage increase, trump's position is evolving. "the washington post" did a good job of pointing that out. chuck todd and george stephanopoulos this morning pressed trump on this. how is the press grappling with the republican party that's headed by a guy who is a nominee unlike we have seen in modern political history? >> i actually think they're doing a great job using words like major division, split, meltdown, words like that because this is not merely a

family dinner table dispute. this is potentially a bitter divorce where you have the grass-roots heart of the republican party splitting away -- now potentially in the position of being themselves the third party candidate versus donald trump, who has got kind of the soul of what may be the new grass-roots of a new party. >> these are the right words, heidi -- gail. incredible division and revolt, crisis, possible civil war. trump's campaign views this as a healing process, not a civil war. is confident that paul ryan will come around. they are meeting in washington this week. do you think some of the words and phrases and headlines that the mainstream media are using kind of overdramatize the situation? >> no. one of the faphrases i like is that trump orchestrated a takeover of the gop. it shows cruz's support, too. he was part of the process with the effort to oppose obamacare

even to the point of the shutdown. >> running against what he called the washington cartel. >> that resonated with the grass-roots with american voters. i think that people like hearing those very strong discussions of this divorce or family dispute, because it shows that the american voters were very unhappy with the leadership in congress. so i don't think -- >> you don't have any quarrel with these fieried ajek ty ed a? >> no. >> trump ran against a media establishment. the gop establishment doesn't love him. should that come as a shock to political reporters? >> no. i do think that the word you used healing is going to be fascinating to watch here. >> it's the trump view. >> and how this is all going to happen. it's going to test donald trump's capacity, right, as a politician to bring people along, not been his strong suit. so i think this process of what happens to the republican party,

it is a big story. we have never seen anything like this in our lifetime. so i think this is going to be with us for some time. >> the republican analysis so far has been -- donald trump is happening because we failed to get our agenda done. the bigger question that i think they really have to do some introspection on is is it because they couldn't get the agenda done or because the american voters didn't agree with that agenda as well? i think that's a point they have not yet reconciled. >> do you think that question is being properly pursued by the press? are we more into the personalities, paul ryan dised m him and -- >> i think you will see the down ballot for lack of another word on lawmakers in congress. how are they going to decide to run the election campaigns and what issues? >> do you think the press is asking the right question? is covering this more as a schoolyard brawl? >> i think that they could do a better job of drilling down on those specific divides and holding some of these lawmakers

to account for the votes that they have taken that we have seen in polling for years now was against what a lot of the public believed was right. >> donald trump having essentially clinched this nomination, obviously turning his attention to hillary clinton. he used some pretty incendiary rhetoric at a rally friday in eugene, oregon. take a listen. >> she was a total enabler. would go after these women and destroy their lives. she was an unbelievably nasty, mean enabler. what she did to a lot of those women is disgraceful. >> if trump wants to call hillary an enabler, fine. i don't know of any evidence she personally went after the paramours and trump is saying this is true. >> this is one of those accusations that's been out there for decades. no, i haven't seen any evidence of it. ken starr spent millions of dollars investigating a lot of

these things. so i think the however, this shows that donald trump went there this early in the cycle, that this is going to be something that we got to get to the bottom of. let's find out what the facts are. let's put them out there. >> right. how much people will care about the sex scandals of the '90s is another question. everything is fair game. will the media hold trump accountable for saying he wasn't going to do it and now he did it? hillary says, he doesn't think of much of equal pay for women because he doesn't think much of women. >> he attacked the media more aggressively than any candidate in the modern era and gotten on tv and gotten coverage by the media. he is doing a if a maf phenomen playing this. one of the challenges the media will have is he will put a lot of stuff on the table that's outside the bounds of normal discourse. he has done it. it's going to continue. the media is going to struggle how to cover stories like that and accusations like this.

>> one journalist tweeted that champagne corks were popping in newsrooms all over america. i think this gets to the points both of you are making because of statements like that that donald trump makes. they don't have to dig into the policy. they can just report on that. they can report on these extreme things that he says toime and time again. he doesn't need to do that. he has a strong policy that resonated with the american people. yet he makes these comments. >> i know hillary told a friend privately that she thought monica lewinsky was a looney tune. very quickly, trump's taco tweet -- he shows himself eating a taco bowl. best taco bowls are made at trump tower grill. big story? media flogged this one. >> they had to. i mean, it's funny. after his whole campaign has been built around anti-immigration rhetoric and then -- >> anti-illegal.

>> whatever. >> it was amusing because there's no such thing as a taco bowl. it showed how much he doesn't really understand the hispanic -- >> you are nibbling details. let me get a break. some journalists say tv news is to blame for trump's nomination by rolling over for the guy. trish weighs in on that. the obama aide who brags about turning the press into a white house echo chamber. hi. my name is sergeant first class holly ann dami. i'm in co-sew voe. give a shout out to my mama from cannonsb cannonsburg, pennsylvania. i love you.

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the cover of "politico" magazine shows donald trump facing a need i can't mob with the cover shows donald trump facing a media mob with the headline, what have we done, as if the whole thing is our fault. joining me from new york is trish regan. >> hi. >> there's an argument being pushed among others by former nbc and cnn afrnchor campbell brown saying tv news is to blame for trump's nomination and rolled over for the guy. your thoughts? >> no. look i don't think anyone rolled over for the guy. i would make the point that a lot of members of the media have been extraordinarily critical of him. he has gotten it from both sides. that said, yes, the media covered him a lot. a lot because he has been making news. there are some organizations, for example, the huffington post, that early came out and said we will not cover trump

because that's entertainment. we don't consider it politics. we're putting it in the entertainment section. they learned within a few weeks that that strategy was a failed one. the reality is, we cover the news every day. donald trump, like it or not, is making news. >> of course, doing many, many interviews on many, many channels. talks to newspapers. jeb bush was the media's anointed front runner at the beginning. how many tv interviews did he do? >> that's a great example. i was calling him to get him on my program. he finally came on. but it was extraordinarily challenging. donald trump on the other hand, as you know, is much more accessible to the media. so when you look and compare and contrast the number of interviews that some of the other candidates did, the challenge is getting them on the air with what trump was doing, it was a different strategy. again, i think the frustration was in part as a member of the media, you would see some of the

candidat candidates buy air time. they would have a 30-second commercial. but god forbid they come on and answer questions. >> exactly. >> they didn't like that balance of power that they lost. they preferred the bought air time. trump would go on and answer a lot of questions for the media. sometimes it got him in some hot water. but he seemed to be of the mindset that any news is good news as far as he was concerned in terms of getting his name out there. >> the critics have a point. many, many trump rallies were covered live, particularly on other cable news networks. the shows that let him call in. that did give him an advantage. a lot was driven by ratings. i glad you mentioned the negative aspect. he was getting it from mainstream media pundits. he was getting it from -- in harsh terms from liberals. then being attacked. but it didn't seem to hurt him, all those media attacks. why is that?

>> it's amazing. i think in part because many americans hate the media. they see the media as part of the problem. >> bingo, ding, ding, ding. >> here was trump getting attacked by both the establishment and the media. and they said to themselves, okay, he is my guy. he is not getting along with any of these people that i don't like. therefore -- >> he had the right enemies, meaning us. last question, there is this argument that news organizations could have been more aggressive in digging into his business background, his proposals, contradictions. there was a lot of that. we could do a better job always. again, it seemed to roll off him. do you think that we could have done a better job in investigating trump? >> i think stuff rolls off him. i think that people are responding to what they perceive as a real authenticity. bernie sanders, the success he has had, that's simply a product of people responding to

authenticity. they like who he is. that's the same thing donald trump has going for him. it's almost as though whatever happens, he is like teflon. it just rolls off. people aren't willing to hear it, because they're saying to themselves, i like the guy. politics is a lot about how much you like a candidate. >> that's true. >> that's what makes a good candidate. >> havei have to go. great to see you this morning. >> good to see you. why are so many conservative pundits in the never trump camp? first, hollywood director rob reiner goes off on the press over donald trump and makes an incendiary charge. u that peanuts can work for you? that's right. i'm talking full time delivery of 7 grams of protein and 6 essential nutrients. ever see a peanut take a day off? i don't think so. harness the hardworking power of the peanut.

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explain how he won the nomination. take rob reiner. he got into a heated debate with joe scarboro of not asking trump about important issues, of not posing tough questions and forcing him to give detailed answers. reiner then pivoted to a different target. >> if you continue to do that, he will lose. because there's nobody in america that would agree with the idea that all muslims should be banned from the country. >> how do you explain the millions of people who do not watch this show who actually like what they hear from donald trump and aren't taking messages from us but they listen to what he says and vote for him? how do you explain that. >> there are a lot of people who are racist. >> wow. really? is that the best you can do. reiner conceded that some trump voters aren't racist which challenged. trump is a guy who won 10 million votes in the primary,

who won 60% of the vote in new york and other states. to dismiss his supporters as bigots is insulting and shows no effort to understand his appeal. dana millbank has ripped trump and was dismissive of his candidacy that he made a vow that is coming back to bite him. >> seven months ago i said i would eat an entire column, newspaper and ink, if trump won the nomination. calculating that republican voters were better than trump. the republican voters let me down. >> i guess he will have to eat crow along with a side helping of media attention. cnn starts complaining about trump's interviews. ted cruz rips fox and other networks for being in trump's camp. is that true?

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things got really nasty in the final days between donald trump and ted cruz. cruz ratcheted up his rhetoric against the media. >> there's a broader dynamic at work, which is network executives have made a decision to get behind donald trump. rupert murdoch have turned fox news into the donald trump network. 24/7. >> cruz has been making this charge and he brought in fox just before the indiana primary. >> i happen to remember that ted cruz's first fund-raising e-mail went against the liberal media. i see this as a book end. to the substance of it, it's a

little crazy, considering you have to read megyn kelly's twitter feed to know this is not the pro-trump network. at the end of the day, this is not trump news network. >> a lot trump critics on this network. so the coverage of cruz in the final ten days, i would say, gail, was very rough. he was called desperate. even in news stories, serial fill philanderer. >> it was unfair. he says, i'm losing to this guy? and i think that when you saw cruz erupt with these kind of fabulous things that he said, it was out of a sense of frustration. he embodies the conservative movement, the protection of the constitution. and yet even media that is seen

as being friendly towards preserving the constitution and standing against some of the illegal actions that obama has taken, for cruz to be portrayed that way in all media outlets was frustrating to him. >> it was donald trump that called him unhinged. the media reported on that. i don't know -- >> let me give you an example. when cruz pulled out, you take "the new york times" stories, "the new york times" story about cruz withdrawing was very negative. he spoke in apocalyptic terms. same with the description of kasich, "the new york times," which had endorsed him, talked about kasich's moderate views and his soothing message. you saw this over and over again, because they thought ted cruz should be one of them. he had gone to princeton. he went to harvard. one of the most agudeliberate - >> there's no doubt many people in the media who didn't like ted

cruz. but ted cruz's biggest problem was with the other republicans. the media was reporting on what the republican were saying. >> i would add this. ted cruz was losing, on the verge of getting out of the raise. the media kicked him around because -- let me come back briefly to the question of this national enquirer story which supposed lid had edly supposed senator's father with lee harvey oswa oswald. ted cruz said it was nuts. media hold trump accountable for that? >> did they? is that what you are asking? >> did they? >> no. i mean, i think that there is an entertainment factor to trump. this is part of his appeal. for most americans, politics is boring. he is interesting. everyone is caught up in trying to make this business a little more interesting to people. look, he has made it clear that he is going to open the bound y

boundaries up of what normal. he will challenge the media this cycle about where they draw the line on this kind of stuff. >> let me turn to hillary clinton. she's given a few television interviews. even though bernie sanders hasn't given up. here she is with anderson cooper. the question was about donald trump. >> he does run a different campaign than anyone else. certainly on the gop side. he makes himself more available to reporters. is that something you will start doing more of? >> he did it. it worked for him. i think reporters now have a chance to ask some tougher questions. the man is the presumptive nominee. being a loose cannon doesn't in any way protect him, i hope, from being asked the hard questions that he should have been asked during the whole primary process. >> did hillary clinton duck the question? >> totally. the one good thing that can come out of this in terms of the media's relationship with the

lead seers is that since the bu white house, things have gotten worse in terms of access for the media with the candidates. hopefully trump's accessibility will change that. it has only gotten worse. >> dwhawhat was your reaction? >> it was a dodge. she's famous for dodging. look at the number of times donald trump has been on the sunday shows or the cable news shows during the week and he is about six types wh times what s doing. she has to up her game. >> she made have a different strategy and not want to be on the news so constantly. her interviews don't make as much news as his do. you can argue that either way. >> she's done a lot of interviews. she's not getting -- the people who are covering her day to day are not getting as much access. anderson cooper, there's a -- >> people covering her are hardly getting any access. >> she's out doing interviews.

she doesn't make as much news. every time trump speaks, there's a million tweets and there's another network. she's more even keel on this. i think the campaign is going to have to make a big decision about whether they feel this is a problem or an asset. it will be interesting to watch. >> on that point, simon, gayle, heidi, great to see you this sunday. ahead, leslie stahl on whether the immediate kmedia are applyi standard to donald trump and hillary clinton. many doubling down on their opposition to trump. doesn't that help hillary? hi. hi, mom, i miss you. i love you. i know it is your birthday. i wanted to tell you happy birthday as well as happy mother's day. i wish i was there with you. i can't wait to see you. i love you. i hope to see you soon.

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titled, no trump. we sat down here in studio 1. welcome. >> how are you? >> as an outspoken trump critic, are you in an uncomfortable position of donald trump is going to be the nominee of what has always been the conservative party? >> yeah. i made arguments against donald trump for several months. you don't like to lose arguments. i think it's important as a journalist that somebody who has dedicated my career to tell the truth to keep telling the truths, whether they're uncomfortable for me or not. >> trump has never tried to be the candidate of the weekly standard or national review. yet, he went out and he sold his vision to 10 million republican voters and all kinds of states. could it be that he is more in touch with what those republican voters want than you? >> certainly, those republican voters who voted for him. he didn't win a majority of republican voters. >> 17 people in the field to begin with. >> that's a blessing and curse for him. it's one of the reasons he wouldn't. he doesn't have the mandate that

he otherwise would have had. >> is your opposition more ideological or more about trump's personal style? >> that's a good question. i think it's a mixture for me personally. it's a mixture. i don't believe he is philosophically conservative. he has been a progressive for most of his life. he doesn't know what his positions on issues are. he was late last week doubting his own tax plan. he has been on both sides of minimum wage on both sides of ground troops against isis, on both sides of single payer, on both sides of the healthcare mandate, on and on and on. i think it's important to have somebody as a conservative who shares conservative principles if he is going to lead the conservative party. >> where he says he has evolved, you are skeptical of his conversion, on some -- >> sometimes they don't last a day. he said during a debate that he was in favor of the obamacare mandate and the next day said he opposed it because somebody got

to him. on personal side, i do have personal objections. i'm far from perfect. i don't hold a presidential candidate or a politician out to that standard at all. i would be awfully disappointed all the time if i did. but there are certain standards. i think that trump, whether you are talking about his comments about women, whether you are talking about making fun of pows, the would-be commander in chief -- >> how do you grapple with the fact that by continuing to oppose trump, you are making it that much more likely that hillary clinton will be the next president? >> i don't buy that. i think first of -- >> a republican nominee and a democratic nominee. unless there's a third-party candidate which your editor favors, it's a -- >> six months out, i think it's possible that there could be a third party candidate. you have had senator ben sass from nebraska urging a third party or independent candidate

to run. >> let's say that doesn't happen. >> i'm never hillary. i'm never trump. it's not the case. i'm logically it doesn't make sense. newt gingrich and others have been making the argument if you are not for trump you are functionally for hillary clinton. if it makes newt gingrich and others feel better, i will say i'm not for hillary. i'm never voting for hillary. >> you are abstaining. >> i will vote. i will vote down ballot. i will maybe write in. i voted libertarian in 1996 when bob dole was too establish moneymeestablishment for me. >> are you feeling a backlash from trump fans? >> your mentions are unusable. i like to go to my twitter mentions. sometimes people would give you things to check out as a reporter to follow up or a news

tip or whatever. >> now you are avoiding it? >> there's no point. we heard about this. the abuse is over the top and silly. >> to be continued. steve haze, thanks for joining us. after the break, how much bias is there in the mainstream media's reporting on hillary clinton and donald trump? why so little coverage on 60 minutes? leslie stahl is up next. for peo, tomorrow is not a given. but entresto is a medicine that helps make more tomorrows possible. ♪ tomorrow, tomorrow... ♪ i love ya, tomorrow in the largest heart failure study ever. entresto helped more people stay alive and out of the hospital than a leading heart failure medicine. women who are pregnant must not take entresto. it can cause harm or death to an unborn baby. don't take entresto with an ace inhibitor or aliskiren. if you've had angioedema while taking an ace or arb medicine, don't take entresto. the most serious side effects are angioedema,

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are to blame for this, the tv coverage hasn't been aggressive enough. do you buy that? >> it's been aggressive. but he has been incredibly wiley, slipping and sliding away from tough questions. you can follow up so many times. >> he does expose himself to questions. he does so many interviews. >> a lot of tough questions and maybe even a good follow-up. but then you get -- i have been in this position. you get to the point where you are almost badgering someone when they don't answer. i think the audience does understand when they're not answering a question. >> right. it's always a fine line for an interviewer. you don't want to let the politician off the hook, but you don't want to seem prosecutorial. >> that's right. you become the story. >> that has happened. trump makes it happen because if he doesn't like you, he will go on twitter and blast whoever he is unhappy with. >> here we are at fox. i do think that it has been a little bit of an unfair accusation that the press hasn't

pursued. what's really astonishing is that the press has. every time he hasn't told the truth, he has been called out. the interthing is the public doesn't care. they used to. care with him. >> maybe people think the media loves hillary clinton but she's had her own history of testy relationships with journalists. why is that? >> who says the media loves hillary? >> there's a lot of people out there who think the liberal press wants hillary clinton to win. >> yeah, i've heard that. but i don't think -- identi've bought that. having to cover the white house through a democrat, jimmy carter, ronald reagan, reagan got a much softer press than jimmy carter did. so when people look behind what they're seeing and feeling, they'll see the evidence isn't there. i think that the press is much more biased against power, real

power, than one party or the next. >> okay. i know trump was on "60 minutes" last fall, but the program hasn't done that much on what has been the wildest campaign in modern history. >> well, it's been covered. it's not as if we're going to get a fresh bite at it. i think we're going to do some stuff now. starting in the fall. >> do you miss covering the politics in the media like this? >> i do. >> do you want to get out there? >> when we watched the interview of what we were just watching, i'm shouting at the television, ask him this, just get in there. i sympathize because as i said, you can bludgeon and the public will turn against you you the object of their viewing instead of the candidates. >> and just to be clear, you don't think there's any tilt in the press to the left or to the democrats or away from the republicans, you think -- >> i don't want to go on the record saying that, i know how

everybody votes. >> just between you and me. >> just between you and me, i don't think you see it in the coverage. i think hillary's getting a pretty tough press and think she will continue to get a pretty tough press because she is powerful now. she's pretty much almost certainly the candidate. and the focus and the high beams will be on him more than they have been and the same with trump. >> before we talk about you being a grandmother, let's talk about you being a mother. we all balance the family, you wrote a book "covering the white house," how much of your daughter's childhood did you think you missed? >> it didn't seem to bother her. it bothered me. i am a compulsive list order. i have lists to keep her busy, as busy she would be so she wouldn't notice i was there. >> but you went to "60 minutes" and warned her you would be on the road the most time. in the first year, 18 cities, 9

countries, and you write, what kind of mother was i? >> i know. i think i had more guilt than i should have. and my daughter has told me that many times. she said, if you had been home, and this is true, i know this is true, if you had been home more, you would have been on my case, we wouldn't be as friendly as we are. we have a great relationship. and i do think my energy needed to be syphoned off somehow. >> but perhaps it made you relish grandmotherhood more than otherwise? >> absolutely. i've gone off the deep end as a grandmother. and i wrote the book because i was so surprised at the depth of my loving, at the intensity of it. and i wanted to find out why. and if i was like all the other grandmothers. and i am. we're a society, a sorority of women who have fallen madly in love with their own grand children. and grandfathers, too, by the way. same thing. >> one more from the book, you were interviewed for a documentary after joining "60

minutes" and were asked, what is it like working alongside these giants? your reaction to that question? >> i didn't like that question too much. >> because? >> i think i had earned my place there. i was the white house correspondent and anchored "face the nation." it had the tinge of sexism to it. so i didn't like it. i didn't show it because the camera was on my face. that's the other thing, if you ever get angry or frustrated -- >> it will go viral. >> exactly. with the cameras on and sitting there trying to hold it down, it didn't leave my head. even as i wrote the book, and that was 25 years ago, it's still kind of churning in me. >> i got that impression. lesley stahl, thank you very much. >> thank you. >> that was fun. still to come, the top executives said it's true, the network had a problem with the liberal bias. and the obama white house talks about manipulating the media.

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cnn has battled cnn has battled the left-leaning network for years and the president has fessed up, quote, i think it was a legitimate criticism of cnn that it was a little too liberal. he tells the wall street journal on how the piece is helping his ratings. hey, i give zucker points for candor and we have middle of the road conservative voices and liberal voices. that would be a step in the right direction. every white house defends the press, but ben roads tells "the new york times" in an embarrassing profile, quote, the ar average reporter we talk to is 27 years old and their only reporting experience consists of being around political campaigns. that's a sea change. they literally know nothing.

but still, when he talks about creating a, quote, echo chamber of what his aide calls comprades messages being spoon-fed, misleading details on the narrative of just when the iran nuclear negotiations began, it gives ammunition to those that think the media's obama coverage is too soft. every administration fervently spins the press. there's a reason why my book about the clinton white house is called "spin cycle," but few officials boast about it on the record. that's it for this edition of "media buzz." i'm howard kurtz. happy mother's day to all the mothers out there. e-mail us, mediabuzz@foxnews.com. you can also catch the media minute on sirius xm, the new

24-hour headline sirius xm channel. and continue the conversation on twitter. i'm howard kurtz. we're back here next sunday, 11:00 and 5:00 eastern. see you then with the latest buzz. i'm chris wallace. with exactly six months to election day, donald trump will be the republican nominee. but can he unite the party? >> we want to bring unity to the republican party. we have to bring unity. >> saying we're unified doesn't in and of itself unify us. >> i didn't get paul ryan. i don't know what happened. the only important thing is the unification of the people. >> we'll talk with senior adviser paul manafort about trump's fight to rally the party and defeat the democrats in november. >> then, a showdown between the feds in north carolina over the legality of its transgender bathroom law. >> this conclusion by the