welcome to "red eye." i'm tom shillue. let's check in with andy levy at the "red eye" tease desk. >> coming up on the big show, donald trump's long-time palm beach butler talks about what he finds interesting. some of the other people who find him interesting work for the secret service. and an artist known for his group nude photos is looking for a hundred women to pose with during the republican convention. see kids, this is why you want to be an artist. and a new emoji for professional women or as tom calls them, the make me a sandwich emoji.

>> thank you, andy. >> it reminds me. i need work done. let's welcome our guests. michelle obama banned her in school. i am here with joanne nosuchunsky. he has a background in improve. the former aid to former senator chuck schumer, christopher hahn p he appeared on the mclaughlin group. he thinks we has the sharpest minds and talk. the editor of the national review, rich, lowry. and he is the smartest man in the world and he has the book to prove. it actor, comedian and author. let's start the show. it is being called the big e meeting of 2016 by meetings magazine. donald trump and paul ryan meeting together. the gop nominee and the house speaker left rnc headquarters

on thursday with a much more unified outlook. in a joint statement they urged republicans to, quote, unite around our shared principals and advance a conservative uh general -- agenda. before they arrived it was a media circus. the journalists and the spectators thronged the streets. one observer said you would think a diety would drop in. no diety. msnbc had a count down clock. they were counting down to an event that was not even televised and then the trump fans who showed up in large numbers. [cheering]. >> trump fans say they are not phased by some of his more

controversial remarks. >> we will support him either way. we will be on his side. >> some fans waited a longtime to see trump and ryan in person. >> 28 hours now. we got here at, what, 2:00 or 3:00 yesterday? >> and here is a paul ryan super fan who was lucky enough to get close to her hero. >> how long were you actually in his presence breathing the same air? >> like maybe three minutes, but it was totally worth it. >> it was totally worth it, right? >> why all of the hype about this? >> there is something about this they love to stress the fractured republican party. do you think that's it? >> the speaker of the house is at least reluctant to endorse the nominee. the end game is obvious. you will see almost every elected official getting on board the trump train and only getting off if it seems like it is going off the rails in october.

>> is that why they want to stay ready to jump? >> it will be highly tentative on the part of these folks. and ryan represents a different strain on the right than trump does, obviously. you maybe he took some comfort that trump came out with the muslim ban as a suggestion. i thought it was his iconic signature policy initiative. if you look at the exit polls it was the single most positive issue. 68% of people think it was the single most powerful suggestion. >> i don't think he know what's a politician calling for something actually means because he hasn't been one very long. >> aren't they all suggestion, chris? >> they are all suggestions and everyone has one. but when you are running for president your suggestions matter a little more. i i know paul -- i know paul ryan is.

i look at the women crying and i think they are crying because they think they will be de rt poked if that man is elected. >> what was that we used? >> justin bieber? >> it was bieber. >> they have that kind of popularity. >> aren't you impressed that he has a multi-cultural following? >> children of all ages and calibers can root for him. it is hard to root for trump unless you are going for the furor. >> it is funny because the far right in the country, they have the most trouble with trump. don't you think he has more policies toward the right? i mean toward the center? >> the center of -- >> the center of the country. why do you think his whole thing is he will be able to pick up democrats and how can he do that? let me ask this. >> owe -- okay, tom.

>> why did the conservative not trust trump if he is such a right wing nut. >> i haven't done a good job at answering this the whole primary season. >> because he is a wild card and he has no actual plans. he is like your drunk uncle at a party and he says you know what we should do? never let muslims in again! i was just saying that. we should let some in, the tall ones, the good ones. >> didn't they know that is what we were looking for in this country, the uncle? >> define we. i don't think this we and other wees were looking for the drunk uncle at thanksgiving. as for my friend rich, here, he has written more pages on why donald trump shouldn't be president than i would ever write. >> you mean to say trump does bring people together? >> when the choice rand paul

and ben carson you are shopping the bargain bin. >> i will try this angle. don't you think this is good for trump because it reminds people that the establishment is suspicious of him in this anti-establishment year? >> good for what people? >> it is good for trump. every time they are reminded that the establishment, paul ryan, doesn't trust him, that's a reminder he is an outsider and this is the year -- >> i don't think people need a reminder that trump is an outsider. what i do think we need is unification. i think that's the next step and this meeting that happened, it is like mom and dad, are they gone that you get a divorce? they met with the attorneys and it is like, oh it will cost too much to separate. so we will look into things together and will go to counseling and we need to meet a few more times, but really it is in the best interest involved if we get on the same page. i think it is a great thing. >> i think it was more like an

arranged marriage and people meeting for the first time from waring clans together even though they are within the same tribe. there is a lot to be done there. i respect the fact that paul ryan has certain conditions before h endorses donald trump. he will endorse donald trump. >> the first rule of my public public -- punditry, the answer is yes. >> ryan wears his cap backwards, but they both wear red baseball caps. that's the number one rule in politics. >> will trump do px90? >> if he can. >> next story, this time the butler really did it. anthony senecal served as trump's butler before retiring in 2009 and becoming the in house historian at trump's palm beach estate. he also posts inflammatory comments. mother jones dug up doosies. he wrote, just a short note to

you on our putz-headed president. that's what he said. this character should have been taken out by our military and shot as an enemy agent in his first term. wow. he confirmed that he wrote that and believes that saying, quote, i wrote that. i believe that. in other posts he refers to obama as a kenyan fraud and a rotten, filthy, muzzie. he refers to the democratic front runner as killeary clinton and a lying and deceiving word that begins with a c. what word begins with a c? >> and he refers to african-americans as negros and not in a loving way like you do. >> no, but i am down with the people. it is hard to find good help. >> he is not the first butler to have controversial opinions. he is the beloved

mr. belvidere writing in his journal. "i can't believe they invited those jews over again." and we remember bruce wayne when he said, quote, saw a negro on the lawn, sir. and there is this quote from "downton abbey," if you've got time to -- i am not even going to read that. that is so intolerant. he can't stand lack of cleanliness. joanne, look, do you think donald could use a little controversy at this point? >> i would say it is not surprising, but is it gonna hurt him? no, his camp said they are wiping their hands clean, but how do you have this man as your butler for so long? i would not want to eat or drink anything he presents in front of me. and it is not just what he said, but it is the

exclamation point. any person that uses that many exclamation points. >> i lost count. >> aren't butlers supposed to be uptight british types? how does donald trump find the racist archie bunker from queen? >> i have a hard time judging people since i don't know anybody who has a butler. >> the only kind is superhero. >> and the house historian they moved him over to? >> well look. it is guilt by association. >> the sins of the butler is never held by the presumptive nominee. >> the bible says you shall judge them by the company they keep. that's for my conservative friends.

>> although cleanliness is next to godliness. this man may be a saint. >> i am surprised. what use does he have for a butler? >> somebody has to pick trump off the private plane. there is a lot of uses for a butler. somebody asked to answer the door when you are laying there. >> somebody has to hold the aqua net when you pat down your hair. >> they said you did a lot of -- >> are you on your way up to asking if this is good for trump? >> i am asking how did you let mother jones get away with it? >> they scooped us, didn't they? >> everything he said was hideous. all of the posts that they quoted and what real threat is trump's butler to the president of the united states such that the secret service has to say they will

investigate him? >> isn't that what they do? >> are you saying that because he is a white man? that's privilege. >> you never expect a butler to be ranting on like that. the chauffeur for sure, but not the butler. >> we should be investigating all butlers. and what about the groom? what is he up to? >> they can figure out what is going on. >> i bet he doesn't even like the taco bell. that's how racist he is. >> the next story, this summer's republican national convention will have more nudity than usual . it is hard to believe. an artist known for his large scale nude photo shoots is looking for a hundred women to pose naked while holding mirrors in the first week of the convention in cleveland. the artist explained the philosophy of the art work relates to the idea of the say create feminine. we hope to suggest women are an inflection and embodiment

of nature, the sun and the sky and blah, blah, blah. turn the page. and the world that surrounds us, the woman becomes the future and the fume -- and the future is the woman. doesn't it all make sense? if i read the whole quote from that artist about what he planned to do it would take up the whole segment. >> the paintball is filled with see -- with cialis. i don't know if you have been to cleveland, but it is a brisk wind and a good idea. trump should pose for a statue. >> should he stop at 100? i would say a thousand. >> a hundred i can handle. >> do you think he is going to get his 100 women.

>> it is women. >> good. >> i read the headline like, okay this is a real reason to go to the convention. it is new age clap trap and there are the sun, the ground, plants, what else? >> he will get the hundred women and having heard all of the interviews on howard stern i am pretty sure trump will get there early and he will want to rate these women personally. that's what he does best. >> he hasn't done that in awhile. >> like three years ago. >> it is what it is and that's something he has done well over his career. >> that's the one thing you give him credit for? >> he was funny, but not presidential. >> he was a private citizen then and he reminded us of that. >> do you think they are gonna get any republican women? i assume there will be a lot of protesters and he may be

getting them from that group, but what about republicans? >> it is possible. a lot of republicans who go there are going because they want to say they are there and they want to be a part of something and that's definitely a way to be part of something. i still don't know what the real point is. ultimately it is guys will see your boobs and that's a win for them. it is not so much as maybe a win for feminism. the mirrors could reflect light into people's eyes. it could blind them. it is hard to photograph, right? >> it would have to be perfect to catch it in all of its glory. >> i don't want to criticize this guy. i assume he is an idiot. >> the credentials are not at stake here. >> i don't want to seem like

some kind of crank here. do you think there could be a legitimate reason to photograph a hundred naked women? >> there is always a reason to have naked people in public. nudity is the least of our problems. we have to get more comfortable with that. it would not be on a news story. americans are uptight. >> are we uptight or do we have morals? >> are we still uptight with the kardashians sitting on top of a billion dollar empire based on what? on being half naked all the time or more. >> but half naked. >> you are thinking of an american that is long gone. >> i hope so. >> when we turn on the television it is all nudity and movies. what is this thing that is uptight and puritanical.

>> there are a lot of people who are uptight and a lot of them will be going to the republican convention in the summer for sure. >> none of them watch this show do they? up next, a moment with me. oark that's fun. -- oh that's fun.

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wednesday about the rise in crime to the u.s. and referred to the viral video affect. the theory that cops are avoiding confronting suspects because they will end up in a youtube video. it is a new name for what used to be called the ferguson affect. they wrote about it in the "wall street journal." there is an intense agitation against the american police department over the past nine

months. unsurprisingly the comments received push backs from many in the press today. gawker wrote the fbi director affect lacks statistical evidence it is real. they announced that the miss of the ferguson affect is hard to kill. the "new york times" was more restrained and called for a study saying, quote, there is little reliable national data on the topic even at the fbi. they promise a study is in the works. but do we need a study? what do you think the affect is on police behavior when there is a nationwide effort before they are charged. and when they are acquitted to scream injustice and create unrest. do you think it would make an officer more or less likely to be pro active when police -- policing in a high crime neighborhood. the innocent peopl in those neighborhoods. rich lowry, i hope you agree with me on my monologue.

do you agree with comey? they are trying to shut him up. >> it is hard to nail this down, but in certain cities, baltimore being the foremost example, the spike in crime coincides with the freddie gray riots and the police are left pulling back. other cities you can see crime rising for several years now. it may not be directly related to this. crime -- we still don't fully know why we broke the crime wave to start in the 1960ss. it seems common sense that in certain cities the police have pulled back and people are getting killed because of it. unless those people are shot by white cops no one ever seems to really care. it seems to be just fine with the left. >> look, i say i don't need a study. i say it is common sense. rich lowry agrees. >> i know a lot of cops and i have worked with a lot of cops and they are brief people to

take on a difficult job and i don't think the video camera will stop them. we have had video cameras in everybody's face in the last 10 years and crime just recently have gone up. there are highly publicized examples and maybe in baltimore there is a chilling affect based on what happened. i don't think that's what is happening in new york and i don't think that's what is happening in the rest of the country. i have faith in the police department and i have more faith in the public that they will eventually understand that everything you see on video doesn't necessarily translate into the absolute truth. there are many angles to look at things. >> i think a lot of these videos, the ones that pop up in my social media feed they film the incident with the police officer, but they don't film what happened before. you are not getting a good perspective in a lot of these cases. >> and that's why we have trials and a court system and a scrus ties system that i believe in and cherish. that's why we go to these issues. i support police officers and i also support the public's right to a fair trial and the right to be free from being unburdenly discriminated

against or harassed. >> look what happened in ferguson itself. every piece of evidence suggested the idea this young man had been holding his arms up and saying don't shoot was a complete lie. it was still made a slogan for an entire national movement. we heard about it for a year or more and then there was a completely above board process to see whether he should be indicted or not and he wasn't and there were riots over it. if you are a police officer in that circumstance you will have some real doubt whether the authorities are going to have your back, one, and two whether you will be made into a national scandal whether you are truly guilty or not. >> i don't think it will prevent you from acting and protecting those in your community. i have to agree with chris. i am shocked. >> first time. >> he is suggesting that these police officers -- it questions their integrity and i don't think it should. >> let me read you a quote, joanne. i found this interesting because i am writing my monologue. james pass scow -- pasco said

he should particular to what he knows. basically he said police officers are afraid to do their jobs. so the cops didn't like it either. >> in the article he said he had no staw -- statistical evidence for the suppositiony puts out there. >> you can get distract ?ed. >> the idea that the cops are not being supported by the justice system is huh lay shoes i think, but it is bizarre he would come out with this at this point. let the police speak for themselves. >> or let there be a study that shows that. >> i am saying we don't need the studies. we know what is going on. >> he is the fbi director. he is not completely flying blind and he got a briefing on the numbers before he said this. in baltimore you have cops saying that when we go someplace we are surrounded by mobs.

if someone gets mugged in front of them of course they will arrest the criminal and intervene. it is whether you go the extra mile when you know you might get slapped down. >> i have more faith in them. >> coming up, half time with tv's andy levy. and the "red eye" pod cast is back with me and andy and our writers. subscribe on itunes and fox news radio.com.

welcome back. it is time to find out what we got wrong and what we missed from tv's andy levy. >> how are you. >> there was a delay there i am so far away. >> trump and ryan meet. the end game is that ryan will endorse trump and i agree. when do you think this happens. i have seen some republicans saying the delay is hurting them regarding fundraising. >> i would guess based on zero information in the next two weeks. >> so you are guaranteeing -- you heard it here first. you said trump is a wild card with no actual plans. he does have actual suggestions though. isn't that what matters? >> sure if you are into vagaries and half truths he is your candidate. he is the king of that. he wants to build a wall. a stupid person would build a wall and have no door. i suggest we have a service

window as well to see if mexico is abierto. >> chris, in response to tom saying we, meaning america, are looking for a drunk uncle, he said you and other we's weren't looking for a drunk uncle. >> a drunk uncle or an unethical aunt, what is the difference? >> i don't think she is unethical at all. >> you don't mean that. >> it is something conservatives like to say. >> i am not a conservative. >> they are not dropples. they are -- they are not dreams. they are are nightmares. >> i changed it because i know trump does president -- trump doesn't drink. >> doesn't this help the drunk uncle? >> doesn't drink? >> and yet he comes up with the suggestions. >> he owns a vineyard, doesn't he? >> chris, i do think your comparison of trump and ryan to an arranged marriage is a good one. >> and they will come together

like most arranged marriages do. ryan will take a month. >> do you think they will have kid? >> i think they will have kids. >> big ears and weird hair. it is crazy. >> she said it is impossible to find good help. who among us has not been embarrassed by a butler? >> my good nets when you think about what happened with the green hornet and kado. kado was clearly sexier than the green hornet. >> i just love that trump -- the idea that a populous has been embarrassed by his uncle -- by his butler makes me laugh. >> that's really coming from the outside when you have a butler. what a maverick. >> joanne, you pointed out the trump campaign is distancing itself and the statement was,

quote, he does not work at morologo. we disavow and condemn these statements. >> it sounds kind of pc, dud -- doesn't it? >> they are changing their tune. >> shouldn't he be allowed to say these things? >> when the secret service is investigating you, you just don't want to be a part of that. >> i don't know. it is obama -- it is the pc secret service. a guy can't speak his mind in america, what has this country come to? >> oh gosh. >> maybe i can suggest when he posts just friends and friends of friend. >> or just put jk at the end. jk. >> you said aren't butler supposed to be the uptight british type? you are not supposed to know the butler's political opinion. >> you are not supposed to know anything about them. >> their name is jeeves. used to in the 90s.

>> chris you said we should investigate all butlers. it is important to note not all butlers. >> i have been drinking all day. sorry. >> not all butlers. i am being told his facebook page is no longer up. >> too bad. i was hoping for some exclamation point excitement. the last refuge of the emphatic. the hundred naked woman thing in cleveland. tom, you quoted the artist which i wrote in quotes in my paper. how he talked about the sacred femme anymore and how women are -- feminine and how women are an embodiment and the future becomes the woman.the exp with to see naked women is unreal. >> he has been doing this -- he did it in new york. >> he has done it in cleveland before with thousands of people. is this good for trump? >> definitely. add that extra element.

he has been promising all along the convention is dramatic and not the usual boring convention. there is more to come. i am confident. >> she said art should always be political. >> always? we can't have art for art's sake? >> andy, you and i have been having this discussion since we were children m. >> decades. >> and i feel like it is irrelevant to the topic at hand which is that art is inhairptly political and -- is inherently political. you are passing judgment on us artists down here. >> you sound a little jejune. >> the frankness of my bold temerity. it is in an echo chamber. >> how is this a fight of s.a.t. words? >> i know we are on fox, but i would like to use a few big words. oh that was a joke. don't phone in.

write a postcard like you always do to this station. >> you know who else thought all art should be political? >> who? >> stalin. >> he said it is not who votes, but who counts the votes, but hent meant it as a joke. he was an artist, a poet. >> he actually said lol after that. joe, you said you don't see what the real point is here because guys will see boobs and that's a win for them. >> yeah. >> it is called empower meant. >> is it though? you know what i find empowering? money. instead of laying around naked on the floor i am gonna go make some. >> the fbi director said viral videos of law enforcement have a chilling affect. tom you said surprisingly the comments received push back from many in the media today. >> yeah. >> maybe i am spit bawling here, but maybe because he said he has no proof to back

him up. >> yeah, well he didn't see he had proof. >> well i think if you are the head of the fbi and you will say something like that, you should have proof. >> i don't know. i didn't have proof, andy, and you saw what i said. >> well, we all saw. rich, is this good for trump? >> definitely. he is a law and order candidate and will crackdown on this sort of thing and have high level officials who will speculate with no evidence even better than james comey. >> the pure and best speculation. >> i am done p. >> thank you, andy. it is time for a break. when we come back, put on your happy face because we are talking about emoji's. to fox n.

finally the emoji will capture the full potential of women. the digital images of the fairer sex is disappointing. there is the bride and the lady with the bunny ears and that's about it. but google is proposing 13 new emoji professions for women. they are lady accountant and lady nurse and lady coder and lady high-tech industry worker and handy lady and lady chef and lady rock star. their proposal states we believe that this will empower young women and better reflect the pivotal role women play in

the world. google is hoping to have these emojis released in the next 40 years. actually they are hoping by the end of this year. joanne, do you think women -- professional women would actually use these emojis? >> definitely and i hope they are ready by october. i imagine my text to my girlfriend going something like this. what should i be for halloween? sexy doctor? sexy farmer or sexy chemist? there is so many decisions and i was never able -- it is so much to type. they -- the emoji would help me of. >> i must be sexist because i saw it as a sexy nurse and not a doctor. >> it mi be a sexy anness these yule -- a sexy an theis -- anethesiogist.

>> remember the joke? do you applaud google's efforts? >> i think getting right on it. what year is it? 2016 and how long has google been around? there is no lady president emoji. >> not necessary. >> what was that look like? >> hillary clinton. >> the lady with big eyes. >> in a pinch. >> i am married to a woman with a job, an important one. >> wow you do have a modern life. >> it is all about that on long island. >> rich lowry is it tame for google?

>> this is an important step for women power. i am all in favor of it. >> are people going to use these? >> they are called emojis for a reason. they are about emotions. are they really about -- and we all need to be honest about it. we use the same emojis. whether it is the poop one or the fire work. what is important is we have the opportunity to use these. >> exactly. >> i have never intentionally used an emoji in my life. >> not even a thumbs up? >> have i to go, but i have to ask quickly. joanne was saying emoji in the pleural. is it emoji or emojis? >> we will close things out with a bedtime story.

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confessions of congressman x. the author is believed to be a democrat. here are some choice parts. he writes, most of my colleagues are career politicians who revel in power and money that is lavished upon them. i never heard that said about a politician before. the voters are incredibly ignorant and know little of our form of government and how it works. i have seen "water world" and he has a point. they said screw the next generation and it is about getting credit now and looking good for the upcoming election. wow. it might be time for a political revolution after all. look, prove none of this surprises me. >> this was written by president grant. this has been going on for quite some time. >> also he said lookin which, wow i don't trust anyone who doesn't put a suffix on a word. don't go lookin and cookin on me. >> they always try to do these

anonymous books and do you think they will get away with it? >> not only that since he is a politician he is a nare is -- narcissist by definition. i have a couple i am thinking about and thinking about who writes like that and i don't want to say it. >> you can go in there. it is forensics 101. >> you know somebody who uses lookin? >> yes, actually and i am thinking about it and it was eerie. i didn't know about this and didn't read this far down. >> it is goofy elizabeth warren. >> rich lowry, what is the point in being anonymous in this. he is not rocking my world so far. >> i don't know, but you do. he is an upstanding congressman if this is all he's got. people don't know of our form of government. >> he is anonymous because he

is a former congressman. if he put his name on the book no nobody would buy it. that's why i know who it is. >> you have to make your short list. there will be a lot of theories on this. >> joanne, what's your theory? >> this is why we need congress women. we know how to get the job done for the cheapest amount. we need more of us. men are obviously incompetent and so is hillary clinton. for dwet everything i just said -- for gee everything i just said. >> who is to say -- what if she moves the pro nouns around and it could be a woman. >> it could be and it ain't. and when i say ain't it is looking like an ain't. the fact that politicians are corrupt are frush -- fresh and new and bold.

>> a special thanks to joanne nosuchunsky and rich lowry and chris hahn. that does it for me, tom shillue. shillue. see you next time.

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