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it was things you wouldn't say to a man and a colleague tells the times at trump tower he called me honey bunch. he is truly a monster.

dennis, you are shaking your head. can you believe donald trump likes bikinis? >> that invalidates his presidency of its own. it was 4,600 words and the most interesting thing uh said from how non-sensical. the comments are by the "new york times" readers over well mingly -- overwhelmingly mocking readers. i was stunned. when you come back i have another revelation. i have one big one. >> good. guy, look -- >> hang on. if there is a big revelation we should hear it. >> it is up to you. >> you know i will come back to him anyway. guy, what do you think? what are we saying? >> it is a hit piece. the problem is the woman has come out to say they have taken what i said out of context. they have spun it and excluded the things that were pleasant

stuff she had said about him. and the "new york times" reporters said, well, you know, we talked to so many people over so many weeks or days, 50 interviews. but you chose to lead with this woman and these examples and if you didn't do her justice and took her out of context or made it seem worse than it was, that's on you. especially if she comes out immediately and contridicts it. she said he was a gentleman and i loved donald trump. this is typical "new york times" hit piece on a republican. >> it really seems like a set up , ebony, but it seems like this is the kind of thing that trump can -- hillary is running. do you remember hillary has a husband who has problems in this arena? >> this is a win for donald trump. to den any's point i am a "new york times" subscriber and i laughed because i couldn't believe that was -- it took like 600 words for us to talk

about a woman voluntarily trying on a whim suit? swimsuit? i am confused. plus i have extensive pageant background and a lot of my friends competed and met donald trump at the miss usa pageant. there were like 51 wows. i really don't know -- to gay's point, not saying trump doesn't have bad issues, but none were clarified in that piece and it underminds the time's credibility. it was disappointing. >> if if you could tell women to try on -- this is a good question for you. >> i have never been invited to a pool party. i will never feel bad for anybody who has a complaint about what went on at a pool party which is something i was never invited to. i assume this is what people did is ask people to get a bathing suit. what is funny is if you look at what trump has done to

women, those are examples of the most appropriate things bill clinton has done to women. it would literally be calling me hon. the bees of bill cline -- the best of bill clinton is the worst of trump. >> if they invited you and they asked you to wear a specific bathing suit and they said wow. >> they would say wow. they absolutely would say wow. 100%. they would. they would say wow. the "new york times" would not care. >> what else did you discover from this? >> this is a totally serious point. the article actually shows that he has given women positions of power unparalleled to the real estate world industry. he has promoted them to the highest position of anyone in their industry, and thisy say that -- the father is -- >> no, the father when he hired this woman, are you sure you want to do that? >> yes, exactly.

i'm sorry, that's right. so the article is schizophrenic in that way. this is what occurred to me. the authors, because they probably went to graduate school and don't think clearly. i do think that's the case generally. they think if the man regards women in a sexual way and even as a sex object that men are incapable of respecting her intelligence. it is one or the other and it is not true. my proof by the way, gay men regard men as sexual objects. they don't hate men. the fact that you regard a group in a sexual way doesn't mean you hate them or think they are incapable of great things. >> that is so important what you are talking about. >> i have to talk about this as a woman from the south it is fantastic to receive compliments. when i first moved to new york i was at work and a gentleman goes you have on a pretty

dress. can i say that? i was like, my goodness. where are we in mark that a man cannot even compliment a woman on her appearance without the fear of being deemed a sexist, but it is all good. there is nothing wrong with that. >> how about you have a pretty dress on. can i sketch that? >> that is different. >> i like to draw. >> no, but it's true. i really think that we need to be very clear. sexual harassment is a real thing. i represented clients with those cases. that's serious and that is different than complimenting and acknowledging an attractive woman. >> and donald trump comes from another generation. he is almost 70. the fact that in 1993 he was calling women honey at trump tower, i am not a trump fan and i made that clear, and this is nothing. in the scheme of things it is meant to hurt trump and it helps him. >> when i grew up women were sex objects and -- remember.

♪ i can bring home the bacon ♪ ♪ and fry it up in a pan it has been a common occurrence this election. a certain candidate's supporters getting violent. yes, i am talking about hillary clinton supporters. he was arrested on saturday after a discussion about politics turned a little too intense. he started arguing with a bernie sanders supporter and her boyfriend at a hotel bar at 3. a 30 in the -- 3:30 in the morning. should have been at home watching "red eye." tmz reports he became enraged and then went after his girlfriend grabbing her hair and smacking her in the head. pierce was charged with battery. and on monday he canceled the commencement address he was to deliver at rutgers university later this week. okay what does this say about hillary supporterses? why can't they control their temper? >> it doesn't say anything

about hillary. >> i am seeing a pattern. >> are you? >> yes. >> i haven't seen a conviction and the criminal defense lawyer in me says until such time -- i mean it is an allegation and we'll see what happens at trial. >> that's right. he was in the wire as well and equally as good is a the brian ben ben show. you say this is an isolated example? >> it is isolated because i have wanted to hit bernie sanders supporters, but they seem so feeble and week. feeble and weak. i never have seen a sanders supporter capable of breathing on their own. i could never physically strike them. >> how about all of these bernie bros we hear about. you don't think all of these young people are for bernie? >> they are for bernie, but they are like veril -- >> that is a loose definition of bro. >> it is like a midwestern scare crow kit. >> dennis --

>> my biggest question on that -- and i mean this sincerely, but why did rutgers invite him for a commencement address? forget the fight. the last line, why -- and i have nothing against actors. they do a great service in giving us a true deep entertainment. it is a nonissue. why would a university invite somebody -- unless he has qualifications aside from being known for a tv show, but why be invited to rutgers to give a commencement address? >> obama spoke there today. who should speak at commencement addresses, you think? >> me. i do, and by the way if people want to see it, where you have been. we have every year somebody give a commencement address and they get millions of views. >> corolla. >> that's right, adam corolla. these are not people who are

generally invited because we have something sub stan sigh to say and real and not politically correct. you are either famous for nothing other than being famous or politically correct. you get no worth while commencement address. >> he is a strong and vocal activist post katrina. that's his community activism. he opened grocery stores and spent time in activism because he is a new orleans native. >> i see and rutgers is busy. obama spoke at rutgers and we are going to get to that story. what do you think of this actor losing his cool? >> i don't care that much about it. it is a very late night probably drunken political argument that spun out of control. then when he allegedly put his hand on a woman. [bleep]. that's not okay. >> who is that guy? >> that's the state senator. >> that was good. >> did you get that?

>> no. >> the next story and what do we have here? >> clay davis, my favorite. to fight homegrown terrorism they are opening a dozen centers around the country to reeducate young muslim who may be a threat. they are sending the would be jihady back toich was also the plot of one of my favorite 80s movies. the potentially radicalized residents will spend up to 10 months in the centers where they will be deprogrammed by teachers and psych jises. they called the -- and psychologists. it helps them to connect and one political scientist warned they could turn into jihadist academy. that seems unlikely. let's see how things are going at one of the re-education centers. oh boy. they are working out and it looks like some type of training. i hope it is not the jihad they are training for.

what do you think? i didn't look at that and you do have to reeducate people who are -- i guess it does make sense. you don't want to bring them altogether. >> that's the issue. i assume they are not all brought together and learn how to throw grenade. the idea -- i just heard about it now and the idea strikes me as not without merit. if they can get them to say why they are wrong and this is the key. i begged them to say this for the last 24 years, if you kill innocent people because of a faith or a nonfaith you go to hell. not only don't you get 72 virgins, but you go straight to hell. >> how religious do you think these jihadys are? do you think they really are going for the virgin or do you

think they are just -- that their 340e9 vagues -- i question their belief. >> i did and the "new york times" magazine had an article of a guy who just interviewed the palestinian suicide -- the would be suicide bombers. the males -- the question i have is why did the females do it. the males want 72 virgins. it is animating and in a world that suppresses any glimpse of a female let alone any interaction , that's pretty powerful. >> look, it was said that you have to introduce these people to the west. our values will just, you know, they will rob off. that's not working, is it? >> it doesn't seem to be. i don't like terrorism, but i don't -- i am not a huge fan of the french. what is the plan to turn these people into insufferable snobs? they are not blowing anything up. now they hate good movies and

they are better than everybody and they are -- i don't know if that's the solution. >> but they are dealing with this, right? they have to do something or are you worried it is the psychologists and the sociologists not doing a good job. >> i will echo the not without merit phrase. a lot of people like us sit around and when we see the problems and others sweep it under the rug and sanitize what is going on in the religion they need a refirmation. it appears to be a good faith attempt to get that going. to cat lies something like that. whether these can become ironically incubators as they get together and ignore the professors and start chatting and get on-line, there are pitfalls and you can't round them up and throw them in

prison. they are trying something and i can't fault them for that. >> i would be worried that the people who are going to be put in charge of this, intellectuals and sociologists, they will not be the type of people doing the re-education that i think is appropriate. >> it is a serious thing. the point is well taken and it is a good faith effort and energy. i can appreciate it and respect, but the possibilities of the collateral damage and the unintended consequences could be severe. >> it is like a hog warts for terrorists. >> i think that's the way they described it as well. >> it is the harry potter school for radical terrorists. >> we wish them well. time to take a break. now when we come back we will have a nice moment together.

live from america's news headquarterses i'm kelly wright. good morning and here is what is happening. it is primary day again. presumptive gop nominee and businessman donald trump is hoping to pick up all of oregon's 28 delegates today. on the democratic side former secretary of state hillary clinton and vermont senator bernie sanderses are vying for the 55 delegates as well as oregon's 61 delegates. ohio governor john kasich is offering up advice to his fellow republicans and his first major interview since dropping out of the presidential race. governor kasich says his party will have a hard time winning back the white house if candidates are, quote, bashing hispanics and turning off african-americans and failing to excite young voters. donald trump is calling for an end to illegal immigration and allowing a ban on muslims into

the country. al-qaeda is calling for an assassination of u.s. business leaders like bill gets. bill gates. the latest propaganda magazine calls on terrorists to target the home economy carry out what they call home assassinations. 1k3 12 oil camps in alberta, canada. another 4,000 people are under nonmandatory evacuation orders. a massive wildfire forced 80,000 people from their homes and 2400 buildings were destroyed in that fire. thunderstorms in south texas are dropping more than a foot of rain in 24 hours and forecasters say it could keep raining all week long. they rescued several people from their vehicles and low hf lying areas in corpus christi. that's a look at news for the moment.

i'm kelly wright and now back to "red eye." president obama gave a commencement address at rutgers this weekend and students let him be as clear as he could be. >> clauses of -- class of 2016 is, let me be as clear as i can be. in politics and in life, ignorance is not a virtue. it is not cool to not know what you are talking about. >> the press left no doubt about whom the president was speaking. obama knocked trump at rutgers saying ignorance is not a virtue. the president went on. >> facts, evidence, reason, logic, an underking of science, these are good things. these are qualities you want in people making policy.

>> but is this a message tailored to donald trump or the same guy obama has been attacking his entire political career. i believe we have a picture of him. that's it. this is the only man obama has ever really gone after, the strong man republican who refuses to see the common sense facts that are in front of his face. >> when our leader express a disdain for facts while actual experts are dismissed as they lead us, then we've got a problem. >> you do have a problem. your experts are elitist. they refuse to entertain the idea that regular people considered their policies rejected them. they insist they know better and they know how to treat us as opponents who are children who refuse to take our medicine. we don't want the medicine. we know the side effects. we know the side effects. >> can i comment on that?

>> first of all -- it is despicable what he said. this man has a disdain for fact that is infamous. he has exacerbated the lie of, quote, unquote, ferguson as if a white policeman killed a black , innocent young man because he was black. blacks did not indict the policeman because blacks, nationalist blacks understood that the policeman was in fact in jeopardy for his life in a struggle with a much bigger young man than he. every time the president says ferguson he shows disdain for facts. >> there it is. well, a guy, look, what good does -- so someone like dennis can bring up that, his disdain for fact. >> i would add obamacare and the iran deal. it is a long list. >> whatever you bring up for

the ferguson effect, we talked about it here, in the press they come out and say that's a myth. the press refutes anytime you try to check them on the facts the press fights back and protects him. >> or the fact checks don't matter. we conservatives won the debate on obamacare and the iran deal and they went ahead and did what they wanted to do anyway. hearing him lecture us about the importance of facts and reason and evidence is just -- it is not rich. it is maddening. the irony and he deserves some credit here is the president going to rutgers university and saying ignorance is not a virtue? this is a crowd that hounded condoleezza rice off the diet when she was the commencement speaker. because of the agitated leftists did not want to her from a war criminal, someone who may have ideas that make

them angry, she was not allowed to speak there. she withdrew under this cloud of chaos and controversy and again my hat is off briefly to this president. he called them out from the same speech. >> i did not quote him because it didn't fit nicely. >> now, that's the thing about obama. he says, you know, the guy says we won the obamacare argument, but he closed his speech saying health care across the country. it is a great thing if they applauded him. >> i understand what they are saying, but donald trump is the leading republican. he said things like we might -- national health care has worked well in other countries and it has not hurt him in the poll. i don't necessarily know if you won obamacare -- i don't think obamacare is popular, but the health system now is

not popular and the front runner said maybe we should look at what is going on and worked in britain and worked other countrieses and he has not been punished at all. >> ebony, what about the thing he really gave it to donald trump. didn't you hear anything different in the speech he has been giving his whole career. >> i thought it was completely unremarkable. they have a long history of beef going back to the birther argument trump started. nothing was surprising to me. i want to go back briefly. i don't recall it that way. doi don't recall president obama being a person that articulated michael brown was innocent and that he was killed illegally by an officer because we all know you are right. the grand jury convened and the facts didn't support that. >> he has repeatedly and i can't tell you the dates, but i can assure you because i

announced them on my radio show. he used the term as police brutality. >> i think he talked about -- in the deal he has found evidence evidence -- the deal he has talked about that. >> there is corruption in many police departments. if you say ferguson, but what does the average american black or white think if you say ferguson is a problem. >> they are talking about a real problem in our criminal justice system when it comes to the intersection of law enforcement and race and we are all served by asking questions around it. >> this is great. i love this debate and where it ended up. we will be back with tv's andy levy. see you then.

welcome back. time to find out what we got wrong and what we missed from tv's andy levy who li vie t h -- liveth and dweleth. >> "times" said he has a problem, but isn't that a noted show for trump? >> i wick up every morning trying to figure out how can i con tort the news of the day into a positive story of donald trump. that's been my life for the last year. >> i see the tweets. thank you. i agree with you though. the woman he told to bring a bathing suit. she didn't bring one and he wanted her to enjoy the pool. it was nice.

and he said to the woman he said you like your candy. they tried to make it sound like he was fat, but she had a daughter named candy. >> i say it every valentine's day. do you loik your candy? and then i go to cvs. >> that's romantic. the cvs candy. >> she likes her candy. >> tim, tom asked how you would react if someone invited you to a pool party and asked you to wear a specific bathing suit. remember, he was asking you that for a reason. >> that's very hurtful. >> the reason being he is planning on inviting you to a pool party and he has a specific bathing sout. >> i'll be there. >> i have seen him do that before. it never end well. it never ends well. >> when you leave you get to keep the trump. >> thank you.

>> tom, you brought up bill clinton and his own woman problem. this part of the article sounded oddly familiar. in many cases it was an unmistakable power at play. he had celebrity and wealth and connection. some of the women saw them with their careers by their side. >> ebony you have on a really pretty dress. can i say that? >> you can. every time you feel the urge go ahead and express yourself. >> i will do that. tom, we are talking about this as women. you have to stop asking women if you can sketch them. >> i will go back to my old systems. just sketch them. >> you pointed out much of the stuff the times article took place decades ago when people acted differently. i agree. trump's current stuff is much more of a problem than what was in the article. >> that's right.

>> thank you. >> wendal pierce arrested. he has been charged and not convicted. it is just allegations. are you saying the whole thing may be bumped. >> or it could be legit. i wasn't there. he may get convicted or he may have put his hand on that lady. >> i am a little shocked nobody else made it. tom, this all happened at 3:30 a.m. and you said they should have been at home watching "red eye" except it was 3:30 on saturday night/sunday morning. we are not on. >> he should have been around for the 2:00 airing of "red eye." >> it was 3:30. he probably watched from 2:00 to 3:00 and then got so angry and got into a fight. dennis you asked why rutgerss asked pierce to get a commencement address. he does a lot of charity work and does a lot of work in new orleans.

why does a commencement speaker need to be someone political some -- someone political? >> i didn't give anyone political. >> why does it have to be an actor? >> if the actor has a reputation of saying wise things it is a nonissue. i truly believe that. you know more. i wasn't reacting about him. i was reacting to the notion of getting famous people solely because they are famous. >> i guess i am reacting to the idea that the commencement speech has to be somehow important. >> i think it should be important. it is the final words and you want to leave people as they go to college. >> i think you underestimate the amount of drinking that goes on. >> i probably do. >> guy, you said it was a late night drunken situation that got out of hand. >> are you speaking from

experience? >> from time to time. it never comes to blows or it shouldn't. >> france is considering de programming radical muslims. you assume they are not brought together where they can throw grenades. it sound like it can be like having an open bar at the betty ford center. >> that's the danger obviously. what did i say and what did you agree with? it was a double negative. >> not without merit. >> look, it is the government running it and the french government running it. >> part of this includes sending citizens to the camps, citizens who have not been charged with a crime. >> that's a very interesting point. i was under the assumption that these were minors sent by their parent.

otherwise it is problematic. >> guy, you mentioned civil liberty concerns. would you accept this in america? >> i would have to look at more details on the program. if you have someone who is all of the red flags flying about this kid and maybe a propensity toward the jihadist problem began do on-line he -- jihadist propaganda and that is troubling. you can't put him in prison and you can't have him sent away to some sort of detention camp. especially if it is a u.s. citizen. what do you do, wait around and hope you can catch him before he hops on the plane to istanbul? >> these places, these re-education camps or whatever you call them, people are monitored day and night for 10 months while wiring special uniforms. >> not unlike the president in someways. you have to get some parental

buy in. >> sounds like boy scout camp to me. >> it raises another problem. which parents will volunteer their kid for this? which parents will disagree? there will be some who are fine with it. >> you talked about the unintended consequences. they are living in the neighborhoods setting up the camps because they don't want the radical muslim around. >> so many details we don't know about. putting a bunch of like-minded individuals together. >> lastly president obama says ignorance is not a virtue. i enjoy your stir of ignorance. >> that's what i am about. >> i have to go. >> thank you, andy. it is time to take a break. first here is what is coming up on the next "kennedy." >> hello "red eye" fans of the night, on the next kennedy,

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live from america's news headquarters i'm kelly wright. good morning and here is what is happening. former presidential hopeful john kasich is speaking out about this year's or this party's near center -- near certain nominee i should say. in his first major interview since exiting the republican race for the white house, kasich admits he is skeptical

of donald trump's ability to unite the party and americans, but he says he hasn't ruled out backing trump, adding he would like to see more positivity and more consistent policy positions from the candidate. the wre yow governor said he -- the ohio governor said he has no interest in running as the vice presidential choice or third party candidate. we will soon learn the deadly answers behind the amtrak accident. the board is scheduled to meet to detail the probable cause of that rash which claimed eight lives. it is not clear which transmissions he is referring to. a letter to the ntsb files shows he was speeding. the south texas highway will be closed today while state and federal safety

investigators tried to figure out what triggered a deadly bus crash. officials with the ntsb will be combing the wreckage of the charter bus. it crashed on saturday while carrying passengers to a casino. >> they are one step closer to raising the sales tax $2. they collected enough to put it on the ballot. now back to "red eye." they are always courting controversey. liberty chan was interrupted for a sweater because viewers complain about her black dress. >> tomorrow, what is going on? you want me to put this on?

why? it is cold? >> getting a lot of e-mails jie. what? really? >> there you go. >> okay, i look like a librarian now. >> that works. >> look at that. it is a good thing he was on the set to lend her his sweater. the anchor read complaints from viewers. >> she looked like she stayed out late at a party and came to work in the same dress and not appropriate for the weather report. handing her the sweater during the show was in poor taste. >> can we talk about like my weather performance? >> no. >> that's a lot of phones. the anchor who handed her the sweater has since apologized saying he meant it in jest. well, i guess the weather in l.a. is not so boring after all. ebony, i thought her dress was nice. it had an evening feel to it. maybe people thought you

shouldn't wear such an evening cocktail dress in the morning. >> i thought it was complete shade. i thought her fellow anchor giving her that sweater during a live coverage was just completely shady. i believe the e-mails. i used to live in los angeles and i will say they skew a little more cocktail in their coverage attire. but you wait until a commercial break. >> maybe he thought it was on air fun. >> no it was shady. >> i think the guy thought he was making fun of the viewers and making a joke at their expense and not hers. >> you didn't see him. you saw his hand and there you go and that was the creepest thing i had seen in high life. >> he said e-mail. if he would have said it is chilly in here. that would be okay. but the e-mail? that was a bad line. she has class because she said i am not offended. >> she is a graduate of trump university. >> i live in l.a. you are joking.

>> i don't know if you are kidding. >> i am kidding, but it is very possible that she graduated from trump university. that's how a weather reporter from trump university would dress. >> i live in l.a. and i have to say i have lived there 35 years and i don't understand why people watch the weather. it goes like this, today is 75 and tomorrow is going to be 74 for the high. thursday, 74. and friday 74. there is nothing to watch. the only thing to watch is the pretty woman in a cocktail dress doing it. the entire purpose of what she is there for is obviated by what he did. >> i was always glued to see a woman put on a sweater. >> i was offended by the fact that man invited her to a sweater and i believe he said wow. >> that will come back to hit him. >> it may. if i am a viewer i am not offended at all by the dress

she was wearing. uh shied from the fact that it kind of looks like she has somewhere better to be like right after the show. i'm jealous. she is not doing the weather in this. where is she going that is so fancy i can't do and jm mad. >> guy was jealous of the weather lady. coming up we will close things out with a bedtime story.

no "red eye" tomorrow due to election coverage. we will be back on wednesday with joe devito and sam roberts and matt welch. was her gps trying to kill her? short answer, yes. it was. a canadian woman following her directions from her car's gps missed a turn and ended up driving down a boat ramp into a very cold ontario bay. the car's momentum carried it pretty far. the woman had to swim about a hundred feet to shore. one onlooker noted that the boat ramp is pretty wide and could easily bemis taken for a street. the car was towed out, but is not repairable. no word on the health of the gps uh -- device. is this a

case of -- i know we can't talk about how women and men are different behind the while, but i feel women put too much trust in their gps. >> clearly this woman did. this woman in front of you would not have done such a thing. i take my driving seriously. >> i think, tim, i like that -- i like the gps. i used to love printing out my maps. but i feel like -- i am going by women in my life. if it says to take a turn she will take the turn. afternoon if there is a corn field there. >> well, they deserve to die. let's be honest, guys. then they deserved god's final judgment. >> look, we are in a small window here, dennis. pretty soon the cars will drive themselves and maybe this problem will work itself out. >> that's the thinking. my wife who was here was a big

fan. she thinks drivers are the entire problem. by the we, that is a question for another evening. is there any wife who thinks her husband is a good driver? >> my wife does. i am afraid to ask her now. >> no, i don't think they have been made. >> there is something about gps devices that causes people to uh ban dn all ran -- to abandon all reason. it appears to be a boat ramp. but gosh darn it siri is telling me 20 keep going. then you are swimming out of your car and you should turn your brain on. ignorance is not a virtue in this case. >> that was another good recall. >> once again from president obama. >> you said people, but were you talking about women? you were being -- you were opening it up. >> special thanks to ebony

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joins us for her one-on-one with donald trump. "special report" next. venezuela on the brink. a state of emergency, a collapsing economy and a president facingezuela'sis in dg desperate measures as he tries to hold on to power in a country suffering from massive economic upheaval. it is the number three source of u.s. imported oil, 11%. it purchased $8 billion worth of u.s. goods last year. to