jon: more "happening now" in an hour, "outnumbered" starts now. harris: fox news alert, what brought down egypt air flight 804? was it terrorism or manager else? search and rescue clues including the u.s. navy now are looking for any sign of the jet that vanished off radar over the mediterranean sea as it was just entering egyptian air space. this is "outnumber," i'm harris faulkner. here today, sandra smith, julie roginsky, megan mccain and co-host of "fox & friends" weekend, tucker carlson is here. a lot to get to, we'll get straight to it. glad you're here today. here's what we know. egypt air flight 804 left paris

enroute to cry row, 66 passengers and crew onboard. early on they called it missing, then the french prime minister said it had crashed in the sea, the air bus a-320 disappeared from radar ten minutes after entering egyptian air space. growing suspicions now this was terrorism. the possibility that a terror attack brought down the jetliner is stronger than the likely hood of technical failure. we're awaiting the regularly-scheduled white house briefing set to begin at any moment. we do know the president has been briefed by his national security team and has been asked to be updated throughout the day. senior foreign affairs correspondent greg talcott is live for us in paris and, actually, greg be, you're at charles de gaulle airport which is where the plane departed. >> reporter: exactly, terminal one from where last night that doomed flight took off and there's a lot more attention about what might have been done

to that plane before it took off. there was another egypt air flight that left this afternoon for cairo. onboard, we understand, families of the victims of that crash. there are some 66 people onboard, 56 passengers, egyptians, french, canadian, a brit, other europeans and other folks from around the country. they've been waiting here for answers x they got them together from french president francois hollande. he said bluntly the plane had crashed, but he also said in very firm language that they would find out what happened to it, and he gave as a strong high post sit that terror -- hypothesis that terror might have brought down the plane which is why authorities are looking very hard at anyone who might have come in contact with this plane last night. baggage handlers, cleaners, crew, if anything was planted. one note, harris, last december 70 -- i repeat, 70 -- airport

workers were dismissed because of ties to islamists. but also mechanics will be questioned as well because we've got to keep reminding our viewers, terrorism is still not confirmed as the cause. it could have been a technical error. there'll be looking very hard at this airbus a-320 which was really worked hard by egypt air. one thing that may help answer the problem and the question about terrorism is coming up with any debris, and as you've been noting, as we've been reporting, some debris appears to have been found in the mediterranean where the plane went down. testing for explosive residue, if that is found, that could can indicate that there could have been foul play. at least the context, harris, for possible terror is here. isis has hit paris in france multiple times in the last 18 months. this might have been, just might

have been a one-two punch, but we still don't know for sure, harris. harris: yeah, and it's so important to press that point because they need to find, obviously, the plane, and they want to look at any traces for explosives or anything like that in the debris, and that has yet to happen. what we know from experience will be the answers that will come. 70 airport workers let go in december. i remember when that story broke. not a lot of coverage at that point, not a lot of dots to connect. i want to get with you though, greg, to the human element in all of this, the people onboard the plane. egypt air, i'm following on twitter, they've been tweeting out details about the 66 people onboard. one child, two infants, families onboard that flight. >> reporter: absolutely. i mean, these were families that were broken up, these were egyptians going back home to their country. one egyptian man was here for medical treatment, and it ran the gamut from regular folks to diplomats.

so it was an assortment of people. and, again, a british person, a canadian person, other europeans, other africans. again, a lot of collateral damage if this was a terror attack. and, again, if it was going after egypt and france. a lot of other people getting in the way. or just victims of a horrible, horrible mechanical, technical failure. harris? sandra: hey, greg, this is sandra smith. as far as the debris that was found 3:05 p.m. local time, greek military officials did report two orange items believed to be from the missing aircraft were found in the ocean. what else do we know about this search mission right now, the search and rescue mission right now as far as who's getting involved, who's offering their help and support? >> reporter: it's growing by the hour, literally, sandra. the egyptians and greeks were there first, the united states is now involved with the surveillance aircraft, the brits

have offered their own surveillance aircraft, and there are other ships that france is offering and getting into the picture. it's a compact area, and there are a lot of merchant vessels that have been pressed into service as well. we all remember the grand searches for other crashes including in the indian ocean. this is a completely different story, but it's still not easy. i mean, it's 9,000 feet down in the be mediterranean sea where the plane went down. and, yes, perhaps what's been floating on the surface to some degree might be like life preservers and stuff. the black box, the black boxes which are so important to figuring out what happened on that flight, well, they might already be on the bottom of the mediterranean sea. back to you. harris: all right. greg talcott, we'll come back to you as the news warrants. thank you very much. so a growing chorus of official voices in france, russia and egypt pointing to the strong possibility that terrorists did this. the french government is releasing rare testimony from

the head of their nation's intelligence agency warning the islamic state terror army is gearing up for a, quote, campaign of attacks across france. the plane, of course, took off from paris. let's brung in chief intelligence -- bring in chief intelligence correspondent catherine herridge. some reports are happening right now that i know you're familiar with, and this could change. even our u.s. firms are saying this -- officials are saying this. but reports that officials are operating on an initial theory that the flight was taken down by a bomb according to two u.s. officials telling another news outlet. what have you been able to discover? >> reporter: well, i had a conversation about that report just before i came into the studio, and i'll give you the context that i can at this point. certainly, the idea that a bomb may have brought down that flight would be one of the theories under considering. but for the intelligence professionals who work in this area, they would not make that kind of assessment at least in the public or background way unless they felt that there was significant evidence to reach

that conclusion. if you think back to the downing of the russian metro jet in the sinai last fall, it took about two weeks for the u.s. intelligence community to publicly make any kind of assessment as to whether a device had been placed onboard that aircraft. so what i would say at this point is that it is fair to say that a bomb is a work or preliminary theory, but this is not a theory based on my conversations that is backed up by specific evidence at this point from the investigation. harris: very helpful. just a quick follow-up to that, you're talking about that russian jetliner that went down in late october. even though isis had come forward with its own propaganda claiming responsibility, it took some time for them to find the traces of that explosive or those explosives on the debris. what have you been able to find out about how our intelligence officials are helping them? because i'm reading that they're looking now at manifests and other things. >> reporter: okay. what's standard procedure in a case like this, and this is also what's unfolding with the egypt air flight, is that when there's

a directive from the president to share all available intelligence or relevant intelligence with countries leading the investigation -- in this case france and also egypt -- that's what's happening. so in this case we are sharing intelligence, signals intelligence, other intelligence, any kind of warning information though i don't believe that was true in this case. and then also looking at the passenger manifest to see if any of these individuals come up on the terror watch lists that are held with the databases at the national terror arism center -- terrorism center, harris. julie: catherine, hi, it's julie roginsky. if you fly from paris to israel, the israelis take charge of the security. the french doesn't have much to do with it. who takes charge of the security flying from paris to cairo? whose watch is this? >> reporter: it would be the french. julie: so the egyptians have no say in the check the way the israelis do. >> reporter: nobody really has

a say in the airlines security check in the same way that the israelis do, but part of this is sort of a question of scale and scope because a number of flights that are going into israel is so much smaller, if you will, that they take sort of direct control over the security issue. but the important issue here, again, is this question of the airport insider. we have the reporting out of france that they're reviewing who had contact or access to that aircraft before it took off from paris to held to cairo -- to head to cairo, and we've also had the case of the metro jet last fall. again, it's not known at this very early stage whether there is evidence to support the idea that a bomb may have been placed onboard that aircraft. but certainly, what the egyptians are saying publicly what they know so far is trending towards terrorism as opposed to mechanical failure. sandra: catherine, can you give us a little color on what the

french spy chief said about the current threats to france? >> reporter: right. we actually have a quote from his testimony. there was a transcript that was released very early today about a rare session in france's sort of equivalent of their government or parliament, and their cia chief, if you will, the head of their spy service said that a string of terrorist attacks by isis using package bombs was possible in france, though his comments focused on stadiums and places where large crowds congregate and did not specifically refer to aircraft. we have a quote from the spy chief that reads in part: clearly, france is the most threatened, and we know that daish or the islamic state is planning new attacks. he said that to a french government committee on may 10th. he continued: it's in a position where it would try to hit as quickly as possible and as hard as possible, and it's facing military difficulties on the

ground. and so we'll want to divert attention and avenge coalition airstrikes. so the significance here is the french equivalent of their cia director warning a government committee just a week ago that isis was planning a wave of attacks with explosive devices, though it was not connected to the aviation sector at that time. harris: you know what is the so interesting about that, too, because we saw what happened at the belgium airport. so you've got a situation where we know that there are strongholds inside these cities, you know, just outside in that suburb in belgium, and then you've got outside of a major city in paris, another suburban area where we know that radicals are. if this was terrorism, those airports would be likely accessible now, and that's really a frightening thought. catherine, thank you. we'll come back to you if anything breaks on your end. we're continuing to follow this breaking news, obviously. family members, as i mentioned before, of passengers on egypt

air flight 804 now facing, well, the agonizing wait for any word of their loved ones. and brand new insight now on what could have played out at 38,000 feet in the air. "happening now"'s jon scott, who is also a pilot, joins us next. stay close. ♪ ♪ (vo) making the most out of every mile. that's why i got a subaru impreza. love. it's what makes a subaru, a subaru. youthat's why you drink ensure. sidelined. with 9 grams of protein and 26 vitamins and minerals. for the strength and energy to get back to doing... ...what you love. ensure.

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harris: this news now from the world of journalism, morley safer has died. his journalism crossed many decades. 52 years, a correspondent, and 46 of those with the show "60 minutes" on cbs. his reporting about the vietnam war made him a household word at one point in this nation. he was 84 years old. in fact, cbs has been honoring him just recently on "60 minutes." he retired just last week. morley safer, of course, set the tone for many journalists back in the '60s and '70s for hard-hitting questions and hard news and tough interviews. and on the road, often would find things that people would say how did he get that. morley safer, 84. we're learning more, this has just happened. legendary "60 minutes" anchor, canadian-american, a big voice

in journalism, has passed away. sandra: we're awaiting new details this hour after the crash of egypt air flight 804 as it flew from paris to cairo with 66 people onboard. egyptian officials saying terrorism was likely the cause of that crash, and now authorities trying to figure out what happened 38,000 feet in the air. joining us now is jon scott, co-anchor of "happening now," and a very accomplished pilot. a lot of experience with covering crashes like this. jon scott, based on what we know at this hour, aviation officials say that the plane zigzagged before it plunged into the ocean. what do you make of the facts that we have at this hour? jon: well, i think they're going to find ultimately, sandra, that this was human-caused, whether terrorism or something else remains to be seen. i would point to the fact that in 1999 an egypt airplane

crashed off of nantucket. it had taken off from kennedy airport headed back to egypt. ultimately, it was decided by the national transportation safety board that a suicidalpily brought that plane down and, of course, we saw the same thing last year with that germanwings plane that crashed in the french alps, blamed on a suicidal pilot. the kind of action that the radar track is showing, the plane was straight and level, 37, 38,000 feet, then suddenly veered to the left, then a 360 to the right as it rapidly descended from 38,000 to about 15,000 feet where the radar track was absolutely lost. that indicates either a struggle in the cockpit or an airframe that suddenly became uncontrollable perhaps because of something like a bomb onboard. i think they are going to find one of those two things is likely the cause here, either a terrorist bomb or some kind of an attack, a struggle in the cockpit. that could have been a terrorist. we don't yet know.

>> so, jon, it's tucker carlson. planes at altitude don't just fall out of the sky, how rare is that? give us some perspective, how rare is it? jon: well, look, it happened on the air france 447 flight. that was just the most bizarre by nation of human error and minor mechanical difficulties, and that's usually what happens in aircraft disasters. it's not usually any one big thing like a wing suddenly falls off. it's usually a bunch of little things that you wouldn't think would connect, essentially conspire to bring a plane down. now, it did happen in air france 447, but this was a clear night, there were no storms in the area, everything was normal, and this plane suddenly fell out of the sky. that leads me to believe it was human-caused, and they'll certainly know more when they get the flight data recorder. harris: jon, what do you think of that report back in december that really didn't get a lot of

fanfare about those 70 workers at the airport there at charles de gaulle, rather, they were part of the labor union, and they were found to have many ties to radical islam, and they were let go. we really didn't hear much back then. we don't know what happened with this definitively, but it is interesting. jon: obviously, all of paris has been taking a very hard look at possible terror connections, and that's certainly one of the areas that people are going to be looking at. but this plane also in the previous 24 hours before it made that run from paris down toward cairo, this plane had also been inner tree ya and tunisia. now, those airports are known for a lack of security, so could somebody have smuggled something into a hold or maybe a lavatory onboard during one of those stops? it's possible. julie: jon, hi, it's julie roginsky. talk me through the pilot, what transpiresesome how long does this take? you put yourself in the shoes of

the people onboard and the terror they must have gone through. how long does it take for the plane to go down? how long did these people, unfortunately, realize what was happening to them? jon: well, again, julie, i'd be speculating as to what happened. if there was a bomb that breached the wall of the aircraft sufficiently, you know, to bring it down, the people onboard would have passed out almost immediately. yes, those oxygen maxes drop, but at 37,000 feet, there's barely enough oxygen or pressure of oxygen to sustain life. so if there was a large hole in the airframe, the people onboard -- who were likely sleeping. i mean, it was 2:30 in the morning. the people onboard likely would have passed out immediately and would not have really known much about what was going on. it did go into a steep dive, and that perhaps could have, you know, when people got down to an area, to an altitude where there is sufficient air pressure to allow you to breathe normally,

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♪ ♪ (singing) you wouldn't haul a load without checking your clearance. so why would you invest without checking brokercheck? check your broker with brokercheck. harris: a lot happening this hour, and this story just breaking moments ago. morley safers has passed away at the age of 84. we do know that of his 52-year career, 46 years, 46 seasons

with "60 minutes," became a household name many years ago mainly because of his coverage of vietnam and the war there and ground-shaking, really for journalism, some of his reporting. we want to bring in the host of media buzz, howard kurtz. he's live in washington with more on this. i know memories and context you can bring us, howie. >> yeah, you know, 46 seasons. and even before he joined "60 minutes," which was the groundbreaking news magazine show in 1970, as you said, morley safer in his career reporting in vietnam, there was a famous story he did where he showed marines lighting a hut on fire. it really kind of ushered in the era of the living room war as vietnam came to be known. but what amazing range this guy had, because he could do hard-hitting stories, but he also was a great writer, he played pool with jackie gleason, he did a piece on martha stewart, and he really was --

and it's increasingly rare to be able to say this -- one of the true gentlemen in the television business. harris: yeah, i knew about the lifetime award that he had gotten from the national academy of tv arts and science, 12 emmy awards, three pea bodies, i mean, just a whole list of acknowledgments within his own field of journalism. and i know a lot of people will say that's naval-gazing -- navel-gazing for us, but it does speak to how much he permeated here in america. >> he was such a fixture for so long that i think lots and lots and lots of people in america and around the world felt like they knew him, and they saw different sides of him. i didn't know, for example, he had started out as a canadian newspaperman. he grew up in canada. and also, you know, if you just look at what he has accomplished, i mean, i met him a couple of times, i did not know him well, but he is a guy who almost never that i can

think of made the story about himself. he wasn't full of himself. he's kind of like a throwback, an old-fashioned newsman who actually was never that comfortable on television, although he did it very well. he was quoted as saying, you know, he felt like a print guy performing in front of a camera. and finally, just to touch on, you know, he just retired last week, and cbs did the hourlong special on "60 minutes." 9 what we didn't know then was the timing was dictated by the fact that he was in poor health. harris harass before i let -- harris: before i let you go, just in terms of how the stories are told about the american narrative around the world, when you have a big voice like this go out in journalism, it really does change the tone sometimes. >> it really does because anybody who's been around that long, "60 minutes," of course, famous for the septuagenarian correspondents, had to be a master story teller, and that's

sometimes lost. the feature stories that he did over the years, they had texture, they had writing, he really, you know, he came of age as television news came of age, and that's, i think, part of a legacy that he leaves behind. harris: all right. howard, always good to get your perspective. thank you very much. and we have more breaking news to bring you. we are awaiting the white house briefing and whether they would start with, first, the vanishing and now we think the crash situation with the plane, egypt air. let's listen in, josh earnest, press secretary at the white house. >> variety of technologies and tactics, and these are, these are tactics that then can be shared with our partners around the world and applied in airports around the world. so we've, obviously, learned a lot since 9/11 about what's necessary to protect the aviation system. but that has notdiminished the desire of some extremist organizations to try to carry

out attack against the aviation system. we're aware of that, and we are constant hi countering that threat by adapting our security system to protect the traveling public. >> you said it was too early to comment on what the causes were. are you able or has the u.s. intelligence community been able to rule out anything such as a bomb or anything so far from the united states' perspective been ruled out? >> i'm not aware of any sort of intelligence assessment that has ruled anything out. i'm also not aware of any intelligence assessment that's ruled anything in at this point. so we're still quite early in this investigation, and, you know, investigators will examine all of the potential factors that may have contributed to in this tragedy. to this tragedy. okay? >> i wanted to ask about puerto rico. you mentioned you think there's still more stuff that needs to be -- [inaudible] in additioning to this bill, but

as the bill stands out, is this something that the white house supports? >> well, we are encouraged that democrats and republicans did work effectively -- harris: getting to other important topics on this thursday afternoon, and we are going to step back and just talk about where he started right there, because it has been breaking all morning long, and that is egypt air flight 804. 66 people onboard presumably dead at this point, at least missing. they're checking a very wide debris, i should say search field over the mediterranean with sea. it had just entered, that flight, egyptian air space from paris. so that was where we thought they might start with this news conference. it happens every day, this briefing. that's where they started. let's bring it out to the couch. tucker, i want to come to you first just on where we are all all of this. obviously, this is an investigation, they've got to find the plane. >> that's right. harris: nothing has been decided. but he did talk about, you know, kind of this talk about possibly terrorism. >> that's right. well, actually, he used the word

extremism, and he's very she plantically precise, and they are very rigid in not using that term unless be absolutely forced to. we don't know, of course, the mediterranean -- surprisingly deep, by the way, 5,000 feet on average. it could be a long time before the actual evidence in the form of black boxes is retrieved. the other missing piece here is the terror groups themselves that typically, not always, but typically claim credit for these kind of events on social media. you haven't seen that this morning. the sinai attack, by the way, which does seem now like terror, it was weeks. but it is odd if this was a terror attack. harris harris well, the islamic state savages said their -- >> thank you for saying that. [laughter] harris: oh, the savages part? >> i love it, thank you. harris: oh, absolutely. i always say that. it took the russians a long time to come farther with it. -- forth with it. meghan, your thoughts. megyn: i was in charles de

gaulle last summer and i can remember saying i'm so glad american airports are more organized. number two, we've been talking about the tsa needing more money, you know, government getting involved because the lines are so bad, them needing more staffing, and i just want to know how this this is going o impact our national security at the same time. harris: you know what? when you look at those lines and you see people camped out for hours, the one thing that goes through my mind is who else is watching this? you bring up a good point. we'll cover the news as it happens on this. we're going to talk politics now. brand new polling shows donald trump leading hillary clinton nationally, that's within the poll's margin of error. but compare that to just last month when clinton had a seven-point lead over trump, and clinton's unfavorable rating is at an all-time high. a record 61% have a negative

view of the democrat front-runner. major improvement for the billionaire businessman, down from his record high of 65% two months ago. tucker, you're shaking your head at me. >> when are we going to see press conferences for all the geniuses who have been predicting with absolute certainty he has no chance of winning the general election? it's not -- harris: wait a minute, you want to see a press conference with people eating you? [laughter] -- eating crow? [laughter] >> i i think it's totally legitimate to have opinions, but there's another part of the job which entails predicting the future as accurately as you can. and when you're consistently wrong, it's time to move on and start selling insurance -- meghan: are you throwing shade? >> i'm not throwing shade. when i'm wrong, i try to admit it. a lot of friends of mine who get up and say there's literally no way he can win -- sandra: this is still polling,

and we've had many that say that polling is just wrong, wrong, wrong -- >> it may be wrong now, but it's not impossible that he wins. sandra: but there's six months left, julie. that's a long time. julie: a couple of things about this poll and one is -- tucker, you know this -- when somebody consolidates the primary as donald trump has, they get a bump. they always do. she has not yet consolidated her primary, they will when she gets the nomination. secondly, this poll without boring everybody to death about the statistics, it really does undersample minority voters. about 25% of the turnout's going to be minority voters, it's usually around 33%. let's not be too crazy about one outlier poll. i haven't yet seen a reputable poll that shows this. harris: one of the things we talked about on the couch this week is whether or not donald trump sort of branding hillary clinton at this point hurts her

in her negative polling, and that might be part of the strategy rather than a big umbrella, that's how he's going to go after her all the way to november. but could it just be having her suffer that loss right now? i'm wondering if this isn't the sort of thing they're looking at. meghan: bernie sanders is refusing to get out of the race, they're attacking each other, it looks like they may go to a contested convention. bernie sanders and his supporters are going crazy thinking this election has been stolen from her -- from him, excuse me. [laughter] and i also think, you know, i like that donald trump is going full jugular, saying words we're going to talk about. i love that he's bringing up bill clinton's past. it's an entirely -- harris: is he winning you over, meg an -- meghan mccain? meghan: i love it. go after the clintons. take the heat off republicans like me.

go after bill and hillary all day long, please. [laughter] harris: do you get behind this candidate? for a long time you said -- meghan: i want to see who he chooses for his running mate, how he goes going forward for the next six months, but i'm being reminded how much i hate bill and hillary clinton. sandra: big change for meghan mccain. harris: donald trump uttering, and apparently a word that you liked, one single word about bill clinton's scandals and causing a big controversy. what he said and the fallout to. we'll hash us out right here on "outnumbered." my mom loves giving me advice. she even gives me advice...

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♪ ♪ sandra: a new sign that nothing will be off limits in the general election. donald trump bringing up an old rape allegation against bill clinton on hannity last night. listen. >> what about what clinton's done? how big an issue should that be

in the campaign? i looked at "the new york times." are they going to interview juanita broderick? paula jones? kathleen willey? in one case it's about exposure, in another case it's groping and fondling -- >> and rape. sandra: he was referring to a nurse who accused mr. clinton of raping her back in 1978. hillary's campaign responded immediately to this saying, quote: trump is doing what he does best, attacking when he feels wounded and dragging the american people through the mud for his own gain. but former house speaker newt gingrich says past allegations against bill clinton are fair game. >> he's on the campaign trail. one of the issues that trump is going to clearly come in on is what hillary's relationship was both with bill and with the women, and there are all sorts of allegations about that. sandra: all right, tucker, bill clinton's past. his personal life. >> right. sandra: is it fair game for

trump to go after him? >> one, this is not an allegation that trump is making, this is an allegation that a former bill clinton supporter has made in public with a bunch of contemporaneous accounts that she told her friends this when she says it happened, in 1978. so, again, this is a real story. two, the question is not simply about the former president's behavior, but about hillary's reaction to it as an advocate for women who has said i believe the victims when they speak, the question for her which no one will will ask, but what grow make of juanita broderick's allegation? is she a bimbo too like monica lewinsky? why shouldn't she be asked that question? sandra: but the clinton campaign clearly taking issue with this. >> first of all, i love newt gingrich, but the definition of insanity is doing the same thing over and over and expecting the result. how'd it work out for you, newt, in '98? secondly, secondly, if donald trump really believes that bill clinton's a rapist, and it

sounds like he does, i don't invite rapists to my wedding, i don't socialize with them, i don't golf with them. donald trump did all of this and recently, until he decided he was going to run for president. you know, it's one thing to say that you think bill clinton's a racist and a despicable human being, it's another to socialize with him and expect people to take you credibly. and third of all, he also had a rape allegation against him. it's by his ex-wife ivana. when she filed legal papers or, she ai coozed of him -- accused him of being a rapist. meghan: i think 1998 is i relevant. the reason why hillary clinton is bleeding millennial women is because they take an entirely way than generations before us. when you have people like lena dunham saying off-the-record questions where she questions hillary enabling bill clinton with these women, that's a problem.

and i have yet to find a millennial woman anywhere in my life that doesn't see this as a problem for her. so talking about 1998 and 2016 are two entirely different things. julie: why invite a rapist to your wedding? mel hand: he said he was buttering them up -- julie: i don't hang out with rapists if they could help my -- >> that means he's not allowed to critique? julie: no, no, i'm sorry. tucker, if i were to accuse you of something as serious as rape -- >> i don't think you're making a crazy point, actually. julie: thank you. >> but it doesn't answer the question which is what does hillary clinton make against these allegations g. julie: it's a valid question, but i'm not suggesting -- [laughter] >> okay. that's not really the point. julie: i'm suggesting that donald trump is an imperfect messenger on this. >> that's true. we're all imperfect, julie. julie: well, not all of ushave been accused of rape. -- us have been accused of rape. sandra: mark zuckerberg meeting

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harris: fox news alert, going to bring you the latest now on egypt air flight 804 and reports that debris has been found potentially from that flight that has been missing, believed to have crashed in the mediterranean sea. egyptian envoy to france says greek authorities have informed the egyptian embassy in athens that blue and white debris has been found. now, whether this would be consistent with what they thought they were looking for, it must be, because they are coming on the record now with their belief that this is potentially from the flight. 66 people onboard, as you know, including children, families, crew members onboard that flight believed to have perished at this point. we're still continuing to get information on whether or not this was terrorism or technical or whatever, but we have been reporting this hour that at least as we were coming to air nearly an hour ago, egyptian officials were saying that it was more than likely terrorism over a technical failure.

so we'll follow the facts on this story. white and blue debris in the mediterranean sea, is that flight 804? we'll tell you what we know as we learn it. meghan? meghan: the controversy now over facebook's alleged bias against conservative co-founder and ceo mark zuckerberg. he met with some of america's leading conservative voices yesterday including our own tucker carlson. this on the heels of a bombshell report claiming the site intentionally prevents conservative stories from trending on its site. while some called the meeting a positive first step, other conservative cans blasted it in-- conservatives blasted it. including matt. >> slap. >> i didn't go because i think this is a pr stunt. i think they needed conservatives to sit around the table so that after the meeting they can say we've met with all these conservatives, and we had this great conversation going, and everything's going to be smoothed over with conservatives. they didn't acknowledge they have a problem. they're doing their own

investigation on this internally. this is an old clinton ploy, right? oh, we checked it out, and everything's fine, and they're not promising transparent sit. meghan: tucker, you were there, what did you think? >> well, it wasn't a hostage video. [laughter] i was not being used or was not complicit in any kind of propaganda. i run a business that does a ton of social media, and i'm independent, and i wanted to hear that they had to say. i don't think they're going to be transparent,'s true. they're all liberals, obviously, it's silicon valley. but i don't think they want to be distrusted by conservatives, and i think that's a good first step the. sandra: so what happened? he sat you down -- >> it was a pretty diverse group, right? some people asked real questions like wait a second, you know? how exactly do you populate your pages, and some people there kind of sucked up to them, because you're a visionary billionaire, you know what i mean? it was a little bit -- quite

nauseating, actually. julie: whoever could that be, tucker? >> i'm not going to say that. harris: did you asking anything? >> i said, -- yeah, i did. i said isn't it a problem that everybody comes from the i'm ideology -- ideology? >> you ought to have some. julie: i'm sorry, but you raise an excellent point, because i was listening to matt schlapp who's a friend of the anticipation, but where i disagree with him is we don't talk to each other anymoreif we're at separate thoughts. you did, i think, the right thing by addressing the issue and -- >> what do you mean? i talk to the homeless. i talk to any person anytime for any reason. harris: that's not the point. julie: my point, tucker, is a lot of people don't, and i think by boycotting this event, i think that doesn't allow people of disparate opinions to talk to each other. and, look, i fully believe that

mark zuckerberg, this is exactly what happened, it was a huge mistake. there should be an algorithm, and the algorithm should be whatever's trending and not any kind of political slant on it, but i'm happy you went there. >> my political views remain the same, but i have more information, and it was interesting. i got into this to have interesting experiences. i'm to not ashamed of it. harris: i'd be curious if zuckerberg really recognizes facebook's role in news gathering -- >> yes, they do. meghan: i want to know if he regrets getting so political. >> that's the key project he's associated with the business he started. harris: we'll be right back. stay close. hey joanne, want to trade the all day relief of 2 aleve with 6 tylenol? give up my 2 aleve for 6 tylenol? no thanks. for me... it's aleve.

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