thanks for inviting us into your homes tonight. fair, balanced and unafraid. we'll watch albuquerque. and a special live edition of "the five" is next. >> hello everyone i'm dana perino along with kimberly guilfoyle and eric williams. this is "the five". fox news alert, thanks for joining us, on this special late night edition of "the five". donald trump is the winner of the washington state republican primary but the real fire works tonight are at trump's rally in new mexico. antitrump protestors turning violent, rocks were thrown and fire tossed at police horses. jonathan hunt has the latest on the violence.

jonathan? >> you can see this started peacefully, and normally enough for one rally with antitruch protestors shouting and trump supporters shouting back. then, the crowd began to get more aggressive. the albuquerque police department did not appear to be the best prepared i have seen. the crowd did not break through the doors, they did, at one point, try hard to do that. there are still many police officers who will not and did

not have helmets on and were in a potentially dangerous situation. we saw a few small fires set you can see that that was one surrounded by protestors. i would say we probably saw something like 500, numbers very difficult to get in these situations. but i would say around 500. we dwindled down to a couple hundred and the police lines here just pushing the crowd now further away from the convention center. >> thank you. kimberly, this is -- jonathan is just saying about the police line being flimsy. and cities and states have got to get prepared.

this is probably just the beginning. >> there is a concern people that want to go in and listen and makeup their minds about an important decision such as a vote for president of the united states should be safe to assemble. whit comes to throwing fire at horses, unacceptable. jonathan pointed out you know the police in danger at this point. god for bid they put on the right thing to protect themselves. people say that is military action on the part of the police department. and they object to that as well. so it's very difficult. you're on notice when you see this. >> ebony, we have heard there are no arrests but very violent

protests. does this surprise you? should there be stronger action by police? . >> i think that you're right here. i think that taking -- if they put too much on, it's militaryized. if they don't do enough, it's a flimsy line. you've got to take the precaution of safety. and that means police officers have to overprepare. and people shouldn't have to be intimidated to support a candidate. >> can we bring back jonathan? are you with us? yes. >> were these planned? if you remember the last protest after trump rally, we found out those are planned in advance. what about this one?

>> okay. let's hope jonathan is safe there. >> i hope he is fine. >> show this will be people that are not sure you do not, 99% of americans do not agree with this rabble, this behavior. if you want to look that up. you show them. another network, his word caused this infantile violence which i believe is pathetic. that if you stop speaking, violence will recede, these are

punches taking advantage of an opportunity and they know the police aren't fighting back now. >> and you make a good point. after california protests, everyone realized most of america doesn't want that. and if you don't like donald trump, protest peacefully. >> yes. i don't need people to articulate what it is they want. that is crazy. >> they flip you off and scream. they're idiots. >> they just want to be part of something. it's insane. >> we just found out jonathan is safe. we're going to go back to him. we can see this seen. describe it. you being there is a benefit to us. >> this is being pushed back at

this point. you're asking about preparation here. i can tell you that yes, there was some preparation for this. but it was also well organized in the beginning there were students trying to keep the crowd peaceful. that effort failed and we witnessed police at one point finding a stun grenade. i do not believe it was tear gas fired but it sent the crowd running back and being further back now and a hard core group do not want to leave the

streets right now. >> why are they arresting people sth this is violent. i mean, this, if anything deserves an arrest or 2, or 100, lock these people up. this is -- we have not heard of an arrest on the streets outside of the convention center as yet. i did see one young man being arrested or if he was hurt. we heard of a few arrests but none on the streets. and explaining why the police department might be taking that approach. you can see there is some bad

language on the streets. that might be a reason why they haven't carried out that many arrests if any. >> arrest these punches. >> this is a joke. >> this is an uncontested state. can you imagine? what cleveland is going to be like? and philadelphia is going to be like? >> right. >> they're not shutting this down. these are people out there, punches just trying to have a good time, partying. some covering their face. what? they don't want to get in trouble, whatever. this isn't effective or meaningful. can you tell? i can tell the difference as a prosecutor. when you have things like this. people to look to have a good time and considerate times, to

go to a wall mart in philadelphia and they take tvs. it's that kind of behavior, they should shut it down. >> the only way to shut this down is to vote what they want. >> i don't they're out there to make a political statement. i think they're out there because -- >> the flags, those aren't american flags. >> it's true. i don't think there is a real political agenda. this is just an opportunity for them to just be in opposition of trump. and is there something they do want? >> first time a rock goes through a window, or a business window they should shut it down and arrest people. >> yes.

this is just a joke. do you see what just almost happened? >> so what sort of resources does law enforcement need? does that need to come from a federal fund? >> well, right. great point. you're going to have local municipalities and coordinated effort between the city, state protection and national guards. what it takes to protect people that want want to peacefully protest. so you have to make sure you have resources available.

if you don't have public safety, you're going to run into a host of trouble in the city if they're trying to leave an event. >> what about responsibility by the opposition to trump? is there something they should say? >> i'm sure nobody is going to take responsibility, but i'm seeing now tear gas. we've been watching about an hour. maybe more, and this state could get out there. suzanna martinez should get them out and shut that down.

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albuquerque, new mexico. donald trump addressed the protestors at the event. >> if you can get them out, get them out. out. get them out. come on. go home to mommy. he can't get a date so he's doing this. come on. are they out of here? troublemakers. they're troublemakers. >> so that is someone, get them out. go home to mommy. >> that is awesome. >> okay. what is your reaction? >> that is awesome. >> he is, i mean, he's trying to do a speech, getting the crowd fired up and these idiots are trying to stop it. nonpeaceful protests, that is one thing, they go outside and join this.

they're on it and fighting for it. my question is if the albuquerque police knew and new mexico knew, i mean, put them in the spot. let them go crazy. don't get involved. one of our reporters almost got hit. shut that crap down. >> one thing when you're watching this and you notice, what happens if the networks turn away. >> i also, that is true for us.

and these guys are using their phones to do livido which is fun and a great tool we use it here to promote the show. that is how these are spreading not because they're watching cnn. >> they're seeing a camera, they're flipping us off. >> and. >> they're videotaping eve other. and snap chatting it, whatever else. >> what happens when california happens in june? june 7th? >> right? >> that is right. when are law enforcement officials going to stop underestimating high tensions around this race? it's going to get worse. this is going to get worse. the potential for harm is

serious. >> it's time to step up, greg. do something about it. >> mick sure whatever you're going in is armored and secure. >> and flies. >> i suggest apache helicopter air coverage. yes. >> and no cameras. >> please, join our inside jokes. >> yes. yes. okay. >> we're going to be in trouble. so what do you think they should do? so that you're able to keep people safe. you've got people whose agenda is videotape themselves for their friends. >> i like the idea of cordoning off a section. saying you want a platt form

here is your section, be vocal and on knoxes shus. you can't be violent. and let them have their piece. >> the point -- >> occupy wall street, i mean, in refacing property, they moved along. you know? >> yes. that is the problem. i'm surprised that they weren't better prepared. now, you can see them, police officers, and what you considered, you know, riot gear.

there is protection here and if you don't want to lose time, depending. the mayor, the governor, you have a responsibility. step in. >> why is everything a surprise to them? >> it shouldn't be. >> donald trump goes to college campuses there are protests sometimes. so i don't understand why they're heads are in the sand. >> you're right. this is affecting all areas. people come to speak there, that is protestors got up on stage

and assaulted him. >> they ruined the event. >> they had to leave. so these things are happening now. >> milo said okay. we'll complain to him. so he led a march. to the president's office. it must be awkward when there is a heckler. and you have to say something. >> right. >> it works to his benefit, too. >> yes. yes. >> go home. >> yes. >> go home to your mommy. >> yes. >> 40 year old virgin. that kind of movie. winning. up next, following breaking news in new mexico.

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and we just seen physical violence now. rocks being thrown at the police lines. you can see we have a dozen or so who are in full riot gear. a lot of these albuquerque police officers here tonight not wearing any protective gear. and they've been facing a hail of rocks at one point. bottles have been thrown. one police officer was hit in the head by a water bottle. it was plastic, thankfully. rocks are being thrown. we have a hard core group of around 100 police have been trying to push back away from the convention center for an hour to and a half now. we're saying as we, as far as we're aware, no arrests on the street.

and they were what i would call a flimsy first line when crowds tried to rush from it. they, this is a police department that i think we can say is not used to this protest, this find of violence. we're down in orange county when there are violent protests there. that particular police department seemed better prepared than this one. you can see smoke is being thrown and pepper spray. and we're going to keep out of the way. that makes it difficult to talk or see. we're just backing up here, this is a volatile situation. more rocks being thrown.

and this is a situation in danger of getting out of hand. we have seen violence on the part of the protestors. with this group, it seems to be getting worse rather than better. back to you. >> again, i'm watching these police. and they're standing there. and this, this tear gas, they're standing there. and can i bring it down? >> do you know what we've talked about? the ferguson effect. the fact is that the police these days are unsure whether they're going to have popular or political support if they do something. because they're also on camera

and think have to think about their lives. >> what is the line? >> i don't know. >> at some point saying we're done. >> where is anybody making a statement? where is the mayor? the governor? hello? you know? later here than it is there. somebody should be doing something about this. i don't know. this is ridiculous. >> how long are you going to engage in this? >> what walking from? is it about immigration? >> yes. it would be fair to say that that is the main issue. you're talking about the state of new mexico 48% hispanic.

a lot of that population angered by some of donald trump's rhetoric. you can see this is not about political slogans right now. this is about violence, they're moving towards us now. we're going to walk with them. sorry. just got hit by a rock there. we're getting more pepper spray. this, you're talking about this point and that is not clear to us. as we saw in the orange county protest, less violence than this one, they pushed them back to a freeway. we've seen a couple being knocked outcoming in again. >> are you sure? >> it looks like there is a lot

of pepper spray going on. >> police are trying to disperse this crowd. i got spray. you can see the police catching up with a line here. and they, it's not clear to me. very to say what they're trying to do exactly. to end this protest. other than wait it out. and pushing back. hope they get tired. it's again, we're, and i heard you talking about this. we're not seeing arrests. i have no experience as a law enforcement officer of a major incident. it does seem peculiar in this situation that they have not moved in and made more arrests to try to break up this crowd.

you can see looking back at the front line, now that front line is almost all helmeted and fully riot geared. officers because of the clear escalation we have seen and number of rocks being thrown and bottles being thrown there, police catch up with these they're firing pepper spray and this is clearly absolutely no sign of that at this point. at this point. >> i'm amazed how these people take advantage of the civility of law enforcement. i have a dumb question. how do the horses not react in these situations?

how are they so stoic? when all of this is happening around them? >> i think that is you talking to me. i recognize your voice less so. . i don't mean to be rude. the horses are extraordinary. we see them in many situations. and training is extraordinary. when the horses first came in today, which is one horse went down hard with the rider straight back up. the line of horses was straight back into action. i'm going to 1, 2, 3, 45, 6, 7. we're told earlier by the albuquerque police department is that police deployment of mounted officers so they can't bring out anymore.

i have to say they're very, very effected when they're forced a crowd back. if you've only got seven of them and this jonathan, i have a quick question. lots of profanity. vulgarness coming out of protestor mouths. is there anything they're asking for you can share with us? >> you know, all of it is broad in terms of the language we have heard. i can tell you we've seen a lot of signs talking about immigration and saying donald trump is dividing the country and would do so in the orange

county protest, equally large, the chants don't reflect well on the political debate we seem to be having in this country right now, guys. >> we want to stay with you. >> john, we all want to thank you. you have had pepper spray in your throat, got hit by a rock. it's just a flesh wound i'm sure you'd say. i have a question about the signs. i don't think it's that hard to track down who is organizing and i wanted, wondered if you can talk about how professional does it look when you have signage,

flags and that type of thing? >> there are two different things here. there is professional organization going on in terms of the signs. and there is a pro immigration group organizing. that is not so say they have anything to do with the violence we're seeing here. and there are union workers but they were unable to do any kind of job in marshalling protestors successfully. we're going to move left a little. just coming oaf our heads here. there is an element of organization. it would be, i could not say that the organizers, the unions, the pro immigration groups have

anything to do in terms of promoting violence. now, i can't say they don't, but i cannot say that they do. and there is what you're seeing is pure trouble making. these are people who, a lot of young people see this on local news broadcasts and national channels and they see it happening. and te think that looks interesting i'll take part in that. and you're more likely to get this kind of action. there is a small rock.

these things look worse at night. and with mr. trump who does attract these kind of protests. these rallies all have to be in daylight hours. this started at 7:00 p.m. here, 9:00 p.m. eastern. so then, you get people who have entertain themselves and you get this. so there may be reasons to look at when they're going to allow rallies like this to take place. dana? >> is jonathan, now, kimberly. jonathan. it's getting late. this is tough because then you're talking about putting forward curfews or restrictions and then, that is also giving

into protestors. why hasn't anyone come forward? like law enforcement or chief of police or governor? to make a statement? now this has been going on for hours. >> to your first point, yes, there are a lot of difficult questions that have to be answered if this continues. and i think one danger is as well, you can see this happening in one city. and protestors in another city see it happen. say it's our turn next. that is something, hard questions that everybody involved in this process and law enforcement process is going to have to grapple with. to your second point, it may be that they're too busy now in

trying to get these protests ended and return it to where it was just hours ago. that would be one reason i think of immediately. we've seen tweets denying they used tear gas. i believed it was just smoke grenade. and saying there is one report a wind yes was damaged. and police say they do not believe that any shots were fired there. we probably are ahead of me and as i look at the crowd here. still about 100 here. so until police get people off

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the idea that coverage like this incite losers in other markets? is it something we should think of? >> whoever is helping to organize this, they will say, okay, let's find out where donald trump is going and follow him around and cause this problem and wreak havoc. i've never been -- i've never gone to a protest. i grew up in wyoming and colorado. we just didn't do it. my instinct would be to run as far away from that trouble but i see your point. if there are cameras it draws more people to it. >> even with perfect attendance and on speech and debate. >> don't go to that thing. no, no, no. >> california, june

th they did it there after a campaign rally. it is immigration and unions. not only is the issue immigration but the unions obviously are for open immigration. their membership is dwindling. they need more people to come in the country and sign them up as union members. they are pro immigration. you will probably see more of this. will california get a step ahead and be prepared and shut it down. >> you have to. it making everyone look bad. it is not a shining moment for albuquerque, new mexico. this could have been prevented and has to be handled properly. my heart goes out to the police department. what an impossible job to sit there. you can't wear protective gear because you are bad mouthed and people will say you are part of the problem or militarized action but they want to go home to their families and others want to be on facebook or 2wi9er, on snapchat or any of these things to show off to their friends. >> like the girl that fell down

earlier. the ferguson effect. you can bet that officer is going to hear about that. >> he shoved the girl. by the way, a lot of these male protesters, let's be honest they need to get to the gym. i've never seen so many skinny wimps in my life. >> you gave them what they need to do. look at the calendar, where the rallies are going next, law enforcement, not the pros testers. they need to get in front of this. it is hard too play catch up when you are in the moment. that's unfortunately what these officers are in a position to try to do. to reel it in as it is happening, versus these schedules are out, available on the internet and figure out where they are going and for bernie sanders, trump, anything that has a reputation for creating this type of thing. >> especially since school will be out. >> blasting with a water cannon might do them a favor. >> that's what i said. turn the hose on them. >> turn it on. >> let me tell you something, when they see the hose coming

they know it is about to get crazy. it is happening. that's what happened one time in front of my house in san francisco, the couch on fire and all of a sudden they ring my doorbell, you are going to get a taste of this. ring my bell and see what happens. >> you had your own water cannon. >> a powerful hose. put it that way. blast. >> i don't know. it's like, do we give these people too much attention? and that makes it worse? i know that i shouldn't say that. because it's incredible television, but boy. >> like when i say there should not be cameras in the courtroom in the supreme court. >> don't say that. >> please. cameras in the courtroom. all right. these antitrust protesters under way in new mexico back with more. stick around.

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this? >> this is a problem. this should be going in the opposite direction. it should be deescalating. they should be getting things under control. someone should come out and put a curfew and shut it down. it is well within the rights of the mayor and chief of police, et cetera. you don't need to coddle these people. you do not need to tolerate this level of violence and lawlessness. you have to send a message because allowing something like this to continue in albuquerque, new mexico, is making it lelss safe for the city going forward. >> california, this is coming your way probably june 7th. get the rubber bullets and water canyons, give them an area, let them protest. once they get out of the area they are free game. >> bean bag them. >> last thoughts. >> you know, i don't know, i'm -- i worry for the police

because they are getting hit from both sides. they have to deal with the protests and the ferguson effect and the fear their careers and livelihoods are under threat if they actually do their job. >> so true. amen and god bless to the police officers, men and women who serve faithfully. >> they are in an impossible situation. >> sorry about that. >> i want to say,s we do support the police here and also the people of albuquerque, new mexico, as we know this is not representative of who you are and what you stand for. this is a small aberration. these are probably -- they may not even live there. it is not a reflection of the people of albuquerque. >> jonathon hunt, great job, man. >> an american citizen. >> he is. only a flesh wound. >> a hard-working american citizen that went about it the right way. >> god bless him. don't go anywhere. there's continuing coverage of

these violent anti-trump protests starting right now with heather childers and leland bitters. we will see you back here at 5:00 p.m. eastern today. >> today. violent protests outside of a donald trump rally in new mexico prompting a heavy police response as trump scores another win in washington state. i'm heather childers. >> nice to be with you and nice to be with you at home. i'm leland bitters. the protests, if you are call them protests really, some hooligans on the street at this point. they threw stuff at police and police horses out there. authorities say they fired smoke grenades to disperse the crowd though it continued to get worse. >> we have team coverage. garrett has the latest on the primary results, but first jonathon hunt is on the scene of