for republicans. thanks for joining us and have a great rest o of the weekend. i will see you later on this week with mornings are maria on 6:00 to 9:00 eastern on fox netwo network. the buzz continues right now. on buzz media sunday sex scandals and donald trump turns to the clinton trails of the 90s and takes heat from the media. >> donald trump bringing back a long ago theory as he hammers away on clinton. will saying a lie even matter? >> i mean donald trump like the last couple of days brought it up with shaun and then 20 years after the fact. >> and then ben foster. >> yeah, that's incredible. >> and then the suicide of clinton and one white house aide

ben foster. huge headlines on clinton being hit hard by the state department's watchdog by violating the rules. is the press finally taking her on? katie under fire and to make pro gun people look like morons. >> if there's no background checks for gun purchase ers, how do you prevent felons or terrorists from purchasing a gun? >> with them defending the film, we will bring you the interview and says that she was shocked with the desipgs. the mystery man that threatens to bankrupt and why it's a classic change of revenge. i am howard and this is media buzz.

the media and acustoms and attacking bill clinton with the past sex scams and then with what many found troubling. >> i think it was today on the internet and you put you up some stuff on hillary clinton and bill clinton. i am not sure that this is a good thing to do that. >> you talk ugh aboing about wh doing? she has been very nasty. i said that i would like for it to be on policy bill. >> it's stunning was the discussion and in response to the question and death of vince foster. despite theories of foul play that consisted for more than two decades.

>> fosters said called your comments cruel, irresponsible and wrong. >> well, it was asked of vince foster and it was asked of me. i know nothing about the vince foster situation. have not known anything about it. a lot of people are skeptical how it happened and how he dies. >> vince fosters sister broke the silence since the brother's suicide decades ago and saying what donald trump has said about vince foster was wrong, irresponsible and cruel. he says it's not something that should be part of the campaign. >> yeah, conspiracy theories. >> yeah, it was about former deputy vince foster, a friend of bill and hillary's until the tragic suicide. >> pretty tough stuff. joining us is a republican strategist and contribute er to washington analyst.

and then penny lee a democratic strategist and then vince fosters death ruled a suicide and does trump deserve the media criticism for bringing it up? >> yeah, he does. there's a distinction to make and then the infidelity and that's something that the board not too long ago criticized for the role as well as the clinton's war on woman and that's what that was titled to him pushing and peddling to vince foster and that drew criticism from his sister in the washington post. this is part of donald trump's whole thing and no press is bad press. all press is good publicity. part of why he has been able to garner $2 million of free media. >> he says that he is is not you shall approximating or pedding, but puts it out there. in the old days they would place damaging information with radio

hosts and now trump says that the time with with had his outrageous style does not need the middleman. >> yeah, he can come out and say the stuff and it's working. everybody is talking about it. everybody is talking about a 1993 death of vince foster. who would think that would be part of the dialogue. he is making progress in trying to ruin clinton's effort to win the woman's vote. he is bringing up these past things to make her look less attracti attractive. that's a biggest weakness and that's female voters. >> it's led some pieces and here is nbc hally jackson the other day. do we have that? >> when ted cruz was in the race trump speculated a rumor to jfk assassination. >> i watched where thousands of

people were cheering as that building was coming down. >> well, nbc called him a c conspira conspiracy they are ris. >> they're not actually covering it but only covering it as a process story and saying that he said this and therefore we must cover it. that's wrong. it was interesting to watch cnn this week. you had jack tapper push back hard on vince foster and saying that after nooif investigations and was a ruled a suicide and then if you watch hour by hour by hour on cnn they went back and back and back to these comments that trump was only quoting somebody else. if this is a theory that we all know, stop the coverage. >> that is your point and the process of knocking it down and criticizing donald trump and

media criticizing him as you know and then the press is an echo chamber and gives us more attention. >> donald trump is the key driving headline. he does it in a genius way. i don't think that he believes this stuff. what he does is put this out there in a way to walk back and says i was asked this question. there was an article about it and he does it in a way that the hands are off it and he puts it o out there and consumes the media and there's a vacuum for the reporters to fill on. he puts these things out there and it's driving the headlines. >> i was not serious about debating sanders. that was just for fun. this has to do with an interview that he gave in the 90s when he was aa little bit more sympathetic in the days of jones and lewinsky and take a look. >> bill clinton, what does he need to do? >> well, i don't know. it's so embarrassing.

you have to say where does it stop. paula jones is a loser. she maybe the one that brought down the president in directly. >> 1998, does it matter in 2016 that he had a different look back then? >> trump has come across as someone that people are not sure how conservative he is. he has the dem kratd i can past and no one seems to care. he is a post political candidate, and that's part of the popularity and part of the attraction. the fact that he says the things in the past does not make a difference that people are supporting him and following him. the people that are wondering about it are the die hards that he currently must court to win over for the 2016 election. >> the media covering this stuff and even though that he is about the health care and isis. it's a lot sexier and then reconstructing an energy plan. >> yeah, you saw this weekend

there's an article and then you're criticizing her and saying that she was not sexy and it was not entertainment enough and there are people that are worried about. >> the sexy campaign. >> did that save you from the e-mails? >> yeah. thank you for that. he specially say that she went into trying to criticize in an indent policy and there was nothing. >> we will do that later in the program. so donald trump clinches the nomination and he is past it according to the count by the ap. he is starting to get criticism on how he deals with people. he is using slash bird tactics and this is after going to new mexico and criticizing martinez, but the press loves it, do they not? >> well, you look at the coverage when it was thought of that there was going to be a

contested convention and then the coverage of a real chance and then the party could have a contested convention. there's no parallel there. the amount of coverage that was focused on the convention for republicans is drastically different on the democratic civil war that's going on right now. >> maybe it does not matter whether republican leader like paul ryan get behind him. maybe that's something that the media will obsess over because we deal with them all of the time. maybe they're closing the ranks and he can then complete the dividend and the family. >> i am not sure who matters in the belt way gets behind him. if it mattersed, he would not be the nominee. >> where is he getting so much attention? >> because there are, you know, 150 reporters running around the capital reporting on it and obsessing over it. my frustration is when i go to a

meeting with paul ryan, i can't get in a question and it's being dropped by reporters and every question is about endorsing donald trump. how much does it matter in the election? probably not a lot since they do not like the establishment. they like trump because he is not part of the inside. >> and one of these speeches there week when trump went off and others and -- then a long time force and conservative movement and politics and one that's trying to draft somebody to mount a third party conservative challenge to trump and hillary clinton. here is what trump had to say. >> his name is bill crystal. from day one this gierksuy. i i watch him. why do you keep on putting a guy

on television that's proven to be wrong. he has been doing this for nine months and cannot find anybody. what a loser. >> is that a waste of his time? >> yeah it's typical donald trump. anybody that gets in the way and says anything negative ability it is the attack. >> yeah it's the right to him and then it's five minutes. >> so much for the pivot. there's a moment when he goes and uses the word like senator and more lot tory words and he is not. there's a battle if this is going to be a debate election or an expand of electric. what donald trump is doing right now is very smart and that's to go back and insure the base. >> also beating up on the president and let me get a break and let me know what you think at media buzz and stick it to the media. when we come back the trump campaign responds and trina

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riddled by stuff and when he is asked, he is going to respond. it's not donald trump's responsibility to protect hillary clinton on any scandal. >> well, i suggest that she has some responsibility on fosters death, but since you pivoted to clinton, this is donald trump talking to bill o riley the other night and the television appearance. >> she goes on a few shows and they gave her questions and i don't think that i negotiate my questions with you. >> she was on cnn and "meet the press" before that. what indication is there any set of questions in advance? >> well, a lot of the media talks about this and early in the campaign when she was on the campaign trail, she was not doing any media interviews and i cannot remember the last time

she we want on a fox program or even megyn kelly. she does do the softball questions, and no one asks her the tough questions and i heard your segment on cnn and doing the cover up work for clinton. they're going out of the way to defend her without her defending here's. >> i have to o go back on this. it's been depumped and that the clintons had anything to do with the sad tragedy is cover cing u for clinton. i don't follow. >> they're defending. there are many anchors that are constantly defending clinton whether it's a scandalle or e-mails. you don't see that on the other side. we have known for a long time that republicans have a you tough time in the media in a presidential election and donald trump is that kind of candidate that they're having trouble

fighting back against. he defends himself and he is not going to be silenced by the main stream media. >> well, you can characterize it and she has done far fewer and so the new york times and a big piece this weekend and scuffles in the trump campaign and growing sense of paranoia and then the message and then the two time reas reporters said th you would not know how to write a good story about me if you tried. dream on. what about the substance of the piece? >> well, the trump campaign is in tur wemoil. trump is the nominee and we're building out to a national team. these types of reports are just false. they're going to be times when everyone is talking and even consulting with each other that

may agree or disagree, that does not mean that something is wrong with the campaign. we hear a lot of the sources come from people inside of the campaign which i have to challenge because a lot of the things that i have heard from the sources are flat out false. >> well, ever campaign i have covered has done that and they blow it up. >> absolutely. >> interesting tweets from donald trump about this and he had a series of this. don't believe the media and quoting people that work for the campaign. the only quote that matters is from me. what about other people that are quoting and other people that are talking to you? >> well with, the key term is phony. as i mentioned you have the sources inside of the campaign, and they're just phony reports. that's what trump is talking about. if they're quoting people that don't have a name, that's a problem. we consider that to be phony and i give you that as a national

campaign. he was speaking to those. >> i am skeptical to unknown sources as well. >> we all should be. >> seeing you say it on camera, i take it more seriously. thank you for stopping by this sunday. >> great. thanks to be here. bill cosby is heading to trial. is that the ultimate media surface. the bill their that got his revenge. a great part of using the usaa car buying service

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threat to journalism. it's peter teal and the founder of papapal. they posted a subject that peter is totally gay and outing the business man that was not public about the sexuality. phil told the columnist that this ruins people lives for no reason. i saw him do a damaging way of getting attention by bullying people when there was no connection with the public interest. he said that these were very painful and paralyzing for people that were targeted. defendant defending the original story on him being gay. >> i don't think that outing someone's sexual presence is a fair game. >> well with, i am a gay man. >> well, that does not mean -- >> well with, the story on a gay man and why saying the code of silence around a gay public

figures in a way that you would never do about a straight person. >> denton that's exploring a sale said about rich guys with a reveng strategy. >> that's behind the curtain, pulling strings and hiring law firms and pursuing a decade long strategy. it's kind of extraordinary. i slightly impressed. >> joining us is a technology columnist from new york times. what do you make of telling the paper that this is on his part and striking a blow against mean spirited journalism? >> yeah, that's a crazy idea that it's in the public interest. you can say that gawker went over the line but the suit of hulk hogan is one that they're funding and i think that the

real danger here is that if you have bill theirs funding lawsuits against secr secret, that has a chilling affect on the press. there are in stances that you can have many people file lawsuits that have no merit and still have ruined a small publication like gawker. >> well, i am trouble ared d by that are secretly funding the lawsuits. they have no merit and will be thrown out on this in a case and they handed him a sword because posting this sex tape, a jury had to be convinced that there was a case here and obviously they awarded a verdict of many many many millions of dollars to hogan. >> yeah, i would be cautious thinking that if lawsuits have no merit, they will be thrown out. one of the thing that tax billionaires have said for a long time is that the legal

system does not work like that. peter teal is a fund er of f many small company. if those companies were taxed by the legal system like uber or various other start ups were hit by huge lawsuits that, you know, called for a hundred million dollar judgment for every wrong earn approximate, person, they would not be good approximate for the start up or industries. there are many in stances that we have found, you know, people suing news companies and the legal costs and the legal costs exceed, you know, what many companies can afford. >> i was going to make the point. that's a great one. we will see you later in the show. a liberal website told me that trump would be a disaster president. peter teal is going to be at the republican convention as a trump delegate. so when he comes back later in the program, we will ask him

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seemed to continue harrradict ms that you said. >> well, chuck it makes clear that e-mail was the use of practice under the secretaries of state. >> we're back and wolf blitzer and chuck todd were not the only ones with this. do you see a chain with this e-mail? >> well, i think it's going to change and they're going to get softer. >> right now? >> no, i think that it was well deserved. you look and it was going to hillary clinton. she deserved that. what they she did was outside of the state department and she broke the protocol and rules. >> penny and the washington post and times had tough things and they're liberal pages and slamming her. is it fair to say that the media is not buying clinton's explanation in the wake of the erie po report? >> well, the media is going after this for a long time and you see it being covered for

more than 12 months. it happened in things that are avoided. they're asking the appropriate questions and there are things that warrant it and it's appropriate in the rule that the media played to have the questions asked. >> people forget the story was broken for man a year ago and it ran out of gas when it was covered because we don't know what's going on with the fbi investigation. why the striking change here? is it just because it's a new report or because seems to be sticking the to her talking points? >> well, i they the media knows that they're on the line and they're not trusted anymore and main stream media ask aware of this. this is bare minuimum coverage. think covered it because they had to. the main stream media can play this up as much or as little as they want.

i believe the coverage we have been different with an r after her name. >> yeah, it's different. there's only so much news to report on. there's no new nurksz so this report did beg some of the questions that are being asked. this has been long long chronicles in their reports. >> to the point, if this is a republican, they would be asked to step down and forced to step down. there's no. >> cannot make the leave. >> yes, absolutely. approximate if you have a candidate that's having a criminal investigation by the fbi there's absolutely no way. >> she is a candidate -- >> it's a federal investigation by the fbi. >> if you look at the -- >> even a sex scandal.

>> what has he done in the nature -- >> she is saying that -- >> donald trump is not. >> yes, she is under criminal investigation and presumed in the legal sense not necessarily in the political sense is, and she is also although she cannot shake sanders, she is winning the primaries. i don't know that you can ask any candidate to step down. not only sanders. before we go clinton has been asked about the ben foster business and her husband's sense life. she seems to reflect it. maybe that's a smart strategy. i say that she has trouble making news. is that a problem anybody? >> yeah, i think trump is hitting below the belt. she is hitting above the belt. he has been more successful below the belt and punches get were more attention. no one is talking about the fact that he is not qualified but criticizing foster and the affairs. >> on the other hand clinton

says that there's a major push about trump saying that he would like the idea of the housing market collapses and that's a one day story. >> yeah, is that the responsibility to lift the debate to the upper register to talk about the policy and not the politics of personalities. >> she should be called out for that because bill clinton is the one that rewrote and helped to lead us to the housing bublg and the crisis. >> that's a perfectly good debate. my point is here is, you know, you have some that maybe embarrassing and he was a business man entitled to make money for closures and that sort of thing. how much has that gotten to the latest sexual allegations? >> well to answer the points if you look at the position in the way that clinton handles the media and the way that trump handles it, it's a problem. this is a guy that earned

$2 billion in the media in the republican primary. this is one that we want and talk to the press for a period of time. >> okay. penny lee and susan, great to see you this sunday. >> thank you. next katie under fire for d editing and we talked to a gun act vis that was in the film and is angry. ♪ everything your family touches sticks with them. make sure the germs they bring home don't stick around. use clorox disinfecting products. because no one kills germs better than clorox.

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on the cutting room floor that things seemed to go out. >> it was a polite back and forth and i went out thinking that there was a fair job of representing us. >> now they're under fire under traumatic moments feature in the trailer. >> if there are no background checks for gun purchase ers, how do you prevent felons from purchasing the guns? >> eight seconds of stunned silence and it was edited in a misleading wear. hear an audio tape of what happened. >> how do you prevent felons or terrorists from walking into say a licensed gun dealer and purchasing the gun? >> well, one if you're not in jail, then you should still have it. [ inaudible ] >> so if you're a terrorists or

felon? >> so if you have done any time, you should have the rights. >> the fact is that we do have statues in the federal and state level that prohibit classes of people from being in approximate position of firearms. >> he told me that he was shock zbld the problem was that it made the members look like they were i hd iots. their eyes were can diverted and look down and shamed. i think because of the light that it cast on the members and the organization and gun owner in general, that katie does indeed owe us an apology. that's the least that she could do. >> the deputy director said that my intention was to pause for the viewer to have a moment to answer the question. i never intended to make anyone

look bad, and i apologize if anyone felt that way. in her own statement the director said that she agrees with the director and is proud of the film. c our couric said that she questionsed it, but differed to the judgment. >> i wonder the how she would like if we asked a question and had her dumbfounded. >> there's strong views on the gun control and in a review the host spoke of the outrage of this strangled hold that they have over the legislative process and said that gun owner are being sold a bill of goods by the nra. the virginia citizen defense league said that it's not ripping the media. they have had positive experience from 6 o0 minutes tonight line. >> i think that the media has been fair to us.

well, there have been cases that they have done what katie did, other than that, it's been fair. we usually don't get as much time taz other side. i don't care as long as the main part of the message is out. that's all that i care about. >> he is still angry at couric. >> it was not right and professional and bad journalism. >> he used ed dits and that is against the rules and there's really no defending it. i interviewed her many times and she has had a successful career from abc host to news anchor and current role as yahoo chief executive. that's given the critics a very big target. after the break trump's twitter feed was powerful and

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trump has mastered this media. the question is whether it can help him in the general election i think it probably isn't. somebody would lives on twitter explain why the more targeted

audience and now they are ill suited to the mass message he needs to get out. why? >> twitter works really well to kind of get at your base and it's a mass media platform. basically the same as kind of cable news. it works -- you get everyone listening to you at the same time, and twitter has this compounded effect where what he says on twitter gets on cable and so he can kind of get everywhere but in a general election these days, especially when it's supposed to be very close, what the obama campaign did really well in 2008 and 2012 was use this sort of online fervor to kind of get real people out in the real world during work for you. you know, they tied kind of what was happening online with e-mail addresses and real mams and raising money, but the trump campaign really hasn't done that and twitter is a really bad tool for that. >> well, let me just jump in because donald trump doesn't believe in the whole data-drive approach to politics and also may not have the money to do it. to come back to twitter, twitter

as a 140-character medium tends to penalized nuance and moderation while rewarding hot takes and bombast and maybe hot takes and bombast in this environment is what it takes to win an election. >> hot takes and bombast definitely get you in the media and as your whole show has pointed out he's been able to drown out everyone else's message and hillary clinton's lately, but, you know, that's not really how presidential elections are won in kind of battleground states. it's going to be a few percentage point difference, and the way that works is you get people online to do work for you offline. you know, the major thing is to sort of get people who are your supporters to get fln supporters of people in the center voting for you, and there's no evidence that twitter works that way. i mean, twitter is really good at kind of, as you said, like getting the really -- the red meat out, right? like you can get people -- you

can get people whipped up that way and when trump has kind of gone to the center and tried to pivot, you know, the cinco de mayo tweet was an example of there where he showed himself eating a taco bowl. >> yeah. >> that was ended up -- it sort of backfired. he did dominate the media but mostly people were making fun of him. >> that may have been a misstep, but you did point out that trump's twitter feed was kind of like its own wire service. i would say it drives coverage everywhere, your newspaper, magazines, et cetera, so, therefore, i take your point but i think it's not to be underestimated. thanks for getting up early out in california, great to see you. >> hey, good to be here. >> still to come, facebook changes its rules in response to allegations of liberal bias, but is it enough, and with bill cosby heading to trial will the media go utterly haywire? [ guitar playing ] ugh. heartburn. sorry ma'am. no burning here. try new alka-seltzer heartburn relief gummies. they work fast and don't taste chalky. mmmm. incredible.

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topics but mark zuckerberg's companies are making some trainings. facebook will no longer assign an importance level based on top ten news sites which are mostly mainstream outlets like the "new york times," woerkt, cnn though it does include fox news. what facebook is admitting here journalists being human have biasses and relying heavily on establishment outlets does tilt things away from key sources on the right as well as left and zuckerberg deserves credit for trying. i'll give that a like. been in more than a decade since allegations of sexual assaultig were leveled against bill cosby and this week the comedian's fortunes took a turn from the worse. >> a stunning fall from grace, bill cosby who portrayed the all-american tv dad was ordered today to stand trial in pennsylvania for sexual assault. >> bill cosby, once nicknamed america's dad, will now face his first criminal trial for alleged

sexual assault. >> prosecutors say cosby drugged and assaulted amanda constand in his suburban philadelphia mansion back in 2004. she, of course, is one of more than just 50 women who have made similar, remarkably similar allegations against cosby. "usa today" called this the biggest celeb case since michael jackson and the media interest will be intense given cosby's tarnished status as a tv trail blazers and cultural icon. i just hope, and maybe this is wishful thinking, i just hope my profession doesn't put itself on trial by turning this criminal case into an o.j.-like media circus. well, that's it for this edition of "media buzz." i'm howard kurtz in washington. thanks for joining us, and a special shout-out to our veterans and members of military on this memorial day weekend. thank you for your service. hope you'll like our facebook page, just talked about facebook. post a lot of original content there. part of your buzz teach. e-mail us at mediabuz

mediabuzz @foxnews.com. i may respond or maybe you want to talk about trump's twitter feed, @howardkurtz on twitter. enjoy your weekend. i know i am. we're back here next sunday with the latest buzz. this is a fox news alert. the sound of motorcycles revving at the nation's capital this memorial day weekend. thousands of bikers kicking off rolling thunder, the annual event paying tribute to prisoners of war and those who are missing in action as america honors the sacrifices of our brave veterans. hello and welcome to america's election headquarters. iarthel neville. >> and i'm i'm gregg jarrett in for eric shawn. donald trump is about to address the crowd this afternoon near the lincoln memorial. >> what time does everything kick off? >> reporter: it should be getting started any minute