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and celebrating natural treasures across the u.s. it is all "happening now". but the second hour is the battle for california. the countdown is on with the primary just six days a way. and june 7th could be the day hillary clinton clinches the nomination whether or not she wins bernie sanders in california. i am jon scott. >> i am heather in for jenna lee today. california by far is the biggest prize of all states holding a contest next tuesday. some polls show that bernie sanders closing the gap but trailing her. the vermont senator holding four days alone. donald trump hoping to be the

first republican in 30 years to win the blue state in november. >> we have live team coverage. bernie sanders is holding an event at this hour. we start with john roberts in sacramento where donald trump holds a rally later this evening. >> reporter: good evening, donald trump will be heading to california. and the new poll finds him with a fairly close race with hillary clinton in the general election. in a head-to-head race hillary clinton leads four points. 45- 41. and third party candidates. garjohnson and joe steine. it is it a dead heat with hillary clinton bear he ahead by two points. he leads her among men and who would you rather have a beer with. and who would you rather have

a backyard bar-b-que trump wins over clinton. why is he coming to california? he is the only one in the race. but he wants to get the lion's share of delegates and make sure hillary clinton and bernie sanders don't suck the oxygen out of the room. he upon wants a piece of the pie and meet with donors in the events. not necessarily a fundraiser but p a get to know you thing to make sure he has the money. he continues to go off on the press for daring to ask questions for the time schedule on dealing out the money he held for veterans in iowa. here's what he talked about with sean hanity. >> best thing to do to put

a tape recorder. they are dishonest. a big portion of them. the political press is the most dishonest people. they are bad people. >> reporter: the press say we are looking for answers to questions but an indication that if he is president, press conferences could be contentsous. and the protestors, don't know how many will be in sacramento. certainly president obama won sacramento county in 2012, but the northern counties are democratic territory and the most promising is when donald trump goes to san jose. you for the bay area. and a lot of people who are not happy about donald trump potentially being president and they will be up there letting him know.

hopefully the protest will be peaceful unlike costa mesa and san diego last night. >> hillary clinton campaigns in new jersey today and her rival bernie sanders is in california. and he will hold a news kfrps on fraking. and set a stage on clinton's environmental policies. we are there now. mike? bernie sanders will sell his policies on the environment and making the case that his ideas are in line with california voters and hillary clintons are not. bernie sanders is doing a wide range of rallies. he will speak to a quarter of million california voters before next tuesday's primary in the golden state. the sanders' campaign manager

showing that he is giving reporters access. >> reporter: it is true that hillary clinton is more difficult to reach. there is frustration among the media about p her accessiblity. bernie sanders holds media avails. and clinton's more scripted. >> reporter: she will return to california to start five more days of campaigning. she will talk in san francisco and expected to go after donald trump on national security matters. it is not clear when she will take reporter questions. >> i am sure we will. i was shocked myself that i have done 300 interviews. i believe that we do and should answer questions. and of course, i am going to in

many, many different kinds of settings. >> reporter: bernie sanders will speak to reporters talking about fraking and the environment and take reporter questions. trying to track down as many delegates by next tuesday. >> mike, thanks. >> it could be a tough choice for americans this fall. a politician that is more popular than potting of them. president obama and he is itching to hit the campaign trail. later today, the president could touch on the race in remarks in indiana. but he is expected to focus on the party's economic policies than the candidates themselves. nina easton is with fortune

magazine. and nina, does it surprise you that the president is jumping in to presumably help hillary clinton? >> not at all. he wants the democrat nominee to win. this would put a stamp on his legacy. and for her part, hillary clinton is eager to recreate the obama coalition for good reason. 12. ve him comfortable leads in the obama coalition was built on large turn outs of hispanics and african-americans and young people. that could help her. and once there is it is a nominee, and once democratic nom no and the president whose popularity is over 50 percent now. it is pretty good. once you see that happen, and you see him out on the campaign

trail, that could change the n contoco contours of the race. >> we have a slightly different number on his popularity rating. can he be effective after eight years of the obama administration, can he be be an effective enter're campaigner. >> he will talk about the economy and mitch mcconnell pointed out it is the slowest since world war ii. but there are positive signs. things like consumers are not very excited about p the market that's gone down and housing prices went up. it is it a mixed bag. and if the economy was something that people felt good about you would will not see bernie sanders or donald trump coming out of no where to take charge of parties.

so barak obama has a difficult sale. if he sticks to the rhetoric he would be a fantastic surrogate for her. >> the president is going. to let me interrupt. he is going to elkhart, indiana. indiana is typically a state that votes for republicans. and the president was basking in that glow. >> you didn't send us to washington for more of the same. you sent us to change things. the expectation that we would act quickly and boldly to it carry out change and that's what i intend to do as the president of the united states of america. i put forward a recovery and investment plan before congress.

at the core is a simple idea. to put americans back to work doing the work america needs to be done. >> so how has he done getting americans back to work that the president claims responsibility for. according to the latest fox newses pole. job approval rating, 48 percent approve and 49 percent disapprove. it is a even split. >> i wanted to interject. in 2012 i taught a course on the economy and election in the harvard kennedy school through the the pris'm of the economy. it was not doing well and struggling more than it is now. it is very true that the economic trends are not fundmental trends are not good. but in the end, it didn't hurt him because it looked like it

was better on the surface. there are all trends of people unemployment and technology replacing jobs and all sorts of economic anxiety, but p it did not play out the way we expected to in 2012. i think that would temper how we look at it this time around. >> so can the president say look at the mess we were handed and look at where we are now. 74 straight months of job growth. >> some of the things that brought the economy back are housing markets, which are doing better now, and also energy and tech innovation. they are not things that the president can claim his policies helped. fraccing and natural gas and regalwayses on -- regulations.

he is a master of the campaign trail and he was kicked off in 2014 when his approval rating was low. if he didn't get in with and paint the mud. this is the vision that democrats represent he would be good. >> incidentally bernie sanders is speaking on a anti- fraking speech and that is something that has helped the economy. president obama will be visiting today. during his trip he will comment on indiana's success. he so manies to forget milestones were reached not because of overreached excutive

power but by the solid conservative leadership of governor mike pence and the indiana general assembly. >> there is concern on businesses. and i am around business owners and there is concern about about the level of regulation that obama piled on and there is no doubt. there is no doubt he could have done more to inject growth in this economy and instead, everything from banking regulations and regulations on small businesses and obama care. our economy could have taken off and didn't. how that is perceived by the voters is a different matter. >> we'll have to say good bye. thank you. we know what hillary clinton's former chief of staff devulged and what cheryl mills would not talk about.

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students to stay put. campus down lock down in place. one person was evacuated from the building but we can't confirm that. evacuated on a stretcher. it is it underway at ucla, the university is saying there is a campus wide lock down and p go to secure locations and not let strangers come in the buildings. and we'll bring you more as the information comes in the newsroom here. >> new developments. testimony from clinton's former chief of staff. cheryl mills. saying that little thought went into it.

>> reporter: lawyers for cheryl mills who was the chief of state object bed in the five hour deposition and brought questions about p clinton's it specialist seen in the video on capitol hill he took the fifth in congressional testimony. he struck an immunity deal last year. and lawyers for judicial watch who brought the lawsuit, pressed mills on whether pagdia nowas a state department. o or private. o. >> and they may go back being to the court to force complete answers. >> miss mills makes various claims of legal representation with mrs. clinton and also in

the the government role as chief of staff. they are murky and not specific on the timing or the relationship that existed. that has to to be cleared up. we may have to go to court to get those questions answered. >> reporter: the state department told mrs. clinton she was not doing enough to preserve the government e-mails. yet she told reporters that the first e-mails that she was meeting all requirements under the federal record's act. the state department inspector general found that she broke all of the rules for e-mails that apply to government employees and did not meet the standards for retaining her government e-mails. >> thank you. >> we'll get back to the fox news alert by uclan and a campus

wide lock down. >> an active shooter alert on the campus of uclan in los angeles. belter hall, engineer four build ping is the location where a possible shooter is active. campus is on lock down and people are asked to shelter in place. about 20000 students there and obviously for parents, a huge concern and a lot of students from california and all over the world really who have, who attend there including my own daughter. i verified that she is in the dorm and everything is well with her. your hearts go out to the students who have been affected by this. apparently an active shooter in the uclan in the or near the

hall. >> police are on the scene, taking a look at what is going on on. campus is fully on lock down. the messages that students are receiving. we got information from twitter from the university. is your daughter communicating with you about how she's getting information. >> she got it through the campus wide notification system. i think that is twitter. i think they have alerts going out to individual cell phones and she just heard about that. and it is a huge place. more than 20000 students. you can see the police gathering there. it is always such an unnerving situation for police. because in a situation like that. you just don't know where the shooter might be and where he or she might be hiding.

>> stephen is a detective. what is job one in a situation like this? >> make sure everyone else on the campus is safe. you said unnerving to the police. every corner and every closest or classroom, they don't know what they would confront. they will have to make sure everything is secure and locked down on the campus. the multimate goal is to make sure everyone is protected. >> after the colombine, it is more of a policy of police departments to it go in quickly and try to put a stop to active shooter situation, right? >> lessons learned from columbine.

and after that happened every police department has active shooter training. every month every patrolman, this is not a tactical unit. but every active member of the police department are trained on how to handle situations and rescue people. when there is an active hostage situation and the suspect is talking, you bring in swat team and hostage negotiators. and they will be search issed quickly as possible. >> we are getting initial reports it may be in the engineering building. and how will police and swat teams go by that and make sure they can find that person. >> that building will be shut down. and the entire campus is shut down. you will have not only the

police officers going floor to floor but helicopters and canineses. as you can see. i saw people coming out of the building with their hands over their heads. those individuals are victims, obviously to us. but everyone will be checked because you don't know if a suspect will walk out of the building number one. and number two. you you don't know if there is one or more shooters and number throw, are there booby traps. >> certainly unnerving when you look at the size of the building and yes, you want the innocent here and you don't unwittingly let someone walk out that may have been involved. it is a sad statement about the state of the world that ucla has

a page on the website devoted to active shooter safety tips. these swayings are dynamic and evolve rapidly and have law enforcement to stop shooting and mitigate harm to innocent victims. it is a list of safety tips that might be affected. >> oh, my goodness. you can see the officers outside. and that is an engineer building. >> when you think of the eflougz they had to go through in recent years, whether it is virginia tech or boin bien, a lot of the parents are to unfamiliar with the children on the yesterday campuses and something like this can happen. stove? >> it is very important that the lessons learned from bynes, that accurate information. that the staging areas set up on

campuses and in the event of an active shotter. they can get active information and in the age of social media. rumors and twitter. and people who have nothing to do and know nothing about this. and it causes anxiety. and the police and campuses have covered this by hitting the staging areas and having a lison. and information, critical information is important. and the police are trying to get an idea of who the shooter is. and we are talking about a possible description and video footage to immediately examine. >> do a lot of major university have the surveillance where they

might access the video and take a look? >> i am sure that was done already. and in addition to that. on some campuses, when vehicles may be photographed and if in fact the person came in a vehicle. and in addition to that every parked car and something we learned years ago and a suspect will run in and hide in the car and all of the police activity is around them and so every parked car will be checked. we saw the ambulance or emt. the regmedical center is right there bite ucla. it will be seconds away for medical attention from where they are now. johnathon hunt is watching this

situation. if you are just joining us. there is a lock down underway in ucla. and 20000 plus students are told to stay where they are as police search for the active shooter in or near the engineering building. john what can you tell us? >> there may be two victims in this shooting. we don't know the extent of the injuries or what else may have happened to the two victims. but there is scan of traffic indicating that there are "two victims down". you can see that there is a large police presence and a urgency on what they are doing. we have sewn the moving between buildings and toward the buildings with their rifles drawn. clearly it is a serious situation. ucla twitter account put out

"shooting at engineering floor" and followed up with police investigating a possible shoot are. and all indication are from the police activity that this is a serious situation and an active shooter who is not yet in custody and that's the important point here, john. >> the university is confirming that there has been a shooting and we believe that two victims are involved at this point. this is the final week of classes for the quarter in ucla. whether that has going to do with what transpired there, finals the pressure in academia can mount as the year goes on. but we don't know who the shooter is. and we don't know if it had going to do with the academic schedule. it is it the final week of

classes and before the quarter ends. >> you can see it is it a large campus. 20000 students on the campus and centrally located. and it is a good thing they have it on lock down and a heavy police presence. >> we are talking about how the university is sheltering it in place. and finding a secure location. students are writing and posting pictureses of how they arousing belts to try to secure their doors so they are safely in place. and that is a new situation we are dealing with in terms of campus security and how they are. >> and there is a warning banner up on the ucla. bruin alert. they are the bruins after all.

shooting at four. and go to secure place and denotice entrow. >> i am seeing this. the shotter is some what identified in terms of a physical appearance. black jacket, black pants according to los angeles police. l.a. pd officer saying they got a call from ucla security about p an active shooter. l.a. police are sending officers on the scene. >> black jacket and pants. we believe there are two victims at this point. the status of their condition we don't know. it took place in the engineering building, engineer four. and from the officer's demeanor.

a fair number of them are standing there and they may feel the building is surrounded or enough officers inside and they don't need to send more officers pouring in. and this is taking place in the middle of los angeles. one of the media headquarters of the country. this is well covered. clearly this thing is not over. students in uclan are told to lock down and shelter in place and it is a terfoying scene as you can imagine for the students in the engineering building they probably heard the shots and when officers come knocking on the dor, it is dicey for those locked in a classroom. you may not know who is on the

other side of the door. don't let anyone in. >> check in with bob strang. you are watching the pictures, from your expertise what is going on. >> they are trying to determine how many victims are in the classrooms and victims in the school and trying to determine how many shooters there are. there was a report of one shooter dressed in black. it is just breaking. i can tell you that the l.a. pd has a terrorism unit that is by far one of the best in the country. next to chicago and new york. they are trained to deal with situations like this. this is routine. and they will move in quickly and try to secure the location

and keep everybody safe as possible. when i mentioned earlier, there are more than 20000 students in ucla. 20000 is the number of under grads. and another 20000 graduate us and more than 43000 students on the campus at ucla. it is a huge place. that will have their work cut out for them. >> they will. but they have a focus and a individual they know is shooting and they will be combing the area and speaking with students and trying to identify whether or not there are accomplices or shooters. students will have to defend

themselves. best to do is lock themselves in the area. and use a weapon like a fire extinguisher and something sharp edged. be prepared and a bystander, you can't shoot back. you can stay calm and secure and out of sight. and at the same time communicate with the police and give them information that you have about shooters and injured and wounded. >> it would be difficult for a police to snuff out who is a bystander and who the shooter might be. it is better not to wave around

a cell phone or anything like that. >> only time they take actions is when their life is threatened by the shooter. keep a low profile. and push comes to shove and you are facing someone with a weapon, you do what you have to do to stay alive. in los angeles you are struck by p a huge job the police have and make sure the shooters don't flip out. and cities like miami and los angeles. and you don't have control. and it is a tougher job. but keep in mind. they have the patrol cars and

manpower and training. this is the first perimeter that will go in and hopefully and stop and kill the shooter and make certain that none other on campus. and monitoring from johnathon hunt. there is a confirmation from police? >> there is a confirmation from police of two victims. again, we are not aware. at this point we can't confirm the conditions of the victims. also telling our producer laura that there is "an active shooter

on campus" that is present tense 10:30 local time. and 1:30 eastern time. you can see on the perimeters there, they are standing around and going in toward the buildings, we have seen pictures of police on high alert and running toward the buildings with rifles drawn. it clearly appears to be at this point an active situation. two victims, conditions of those victims are unknown. there is still at this point an active shooter on that campus. and as you are talking. you have seen the size of the campus. and it is it a sprawling campus. and it is it a huge area for the police to search.

they may believe they have the shooters cornered in that one particular building where the search seems to be focused. engineering four is the build ping where the shooting took place. there is a possibility that the shooter or shooters may have got away. that is a huge area for the cops to search. >> as far as we know, victims don't include the gunmen. this is it not a murder/suicide at this point? there was a description of a person wearing black clothing and that person apparently is up and moving? >> reporter: again, jon, we have to be cautious in these situations. details often change as it develops. from the authorities on the scene, there is an active shooter that would imply at

least that the shooter is not among the two confirmed victims. you are watching the police making a move toward the building and they have weapons drawn. they believe there is a shooter who is active in the vicinity there and there is it an active search going on for the shooters at this point, jon. >> obviously. it is it a situation that the police don't know. >> it is heather here. >> did you say that the police believe that they may have had the shooter in the engineering building. they are concerned that the shooter or shooters could have slipped out. >> no, what i said they appear to be be focusing on the building which is engineering four, according to uclan officials. they don't know if the shooter

or shooters may have got out and somewhere else on the campus and that would explain why ucla put out the campus wide alert and ordering all students on the facility to be on a lock down. no one knows where they are at this point. >> just wanted to clarify that. you reported two victims involved in the case. a lot of parents and students nervous at this hour. and we are praying for them and we'll bring you all of the latest information we get. we'll bring in pat brosnan. as you hear about the story and the magnitude of the task that police officers have. no matter if they are trained in los angeles or new york area. talk to us about p how the police go about this and how big of a job they have ahead of

them. >> the job is, it is incredibly large and surrounded by fog as the incidents are. the cops don't know what is going on. there is a lot of the third party hearsay. it is a tough job. but in a case like this. they are moving methodically. and developing perimeters. and minimizing the casulties. we picked up in new york. white male six feet tall. we got that six minutes ago through the public tweets regarding the incident. that is a little bit of intel on what is developing. they are showing that there is two dead reuclan asf

nine minutes ago. this is unfolding and rapidly evolving situation. they are trying to contain. and identify and contain if i had to clarify what is going on. you are right on the spot, martha whether south dakota or nypd or chicago or l.a., it is the same level of nightmare. and that is one eye closed. that is very cloudy and because p of the facts that are swirling around. one or more is wearing black paints and shirt as we continue to follow this. and it broke just about p 15 minutes ago. the first reports of shots fired took place at ten minutes to ten

l.a. time. 9:55 in the morning there, trace gallager and has more information for us now. trace. >> it is important, jon. we can put the other yellow map and it is important to give you the context of how big the campus is. you can see on the right hand side of the screen. we are talking about engineering building number four. there are several engineering buildings. and uclan is called home. internet. and when you look at this campus and if you look back at the yellow surrounding here, parking lot nine and engineering building number four is in the back of the campus. and in the lower part of the screen. bo elter hall and that is one of the main boulevards. and on the top is sunset

boulevard and surrounded by the 405 right now they are working with an active shooter scenario. they have no idea if the person or persons are in or out of the building. to get to engineering five. you can't sneak out of the back. that is why they set up surrounding areas, what they will do is make sure all exists are cleared first and going with the exterror exits. it is important to find out. not all of them clearly are on campus. but a huge number are on campus. and right now, the task at hand to surround the build anything make sure they go to see if the students are are locked in place and find out if eyewitnesss or

anybody else on the scene if they saw anybody flee the area. outside of the campus. you have city of westwood which is a huge area. it is all of these areas here that are in heavy use. thousands of restaurants and shops just off of the campus. uclan is a city in itself. and so when they put it on lock down, the focus for police to make sure they at least get the perimeter around engineering number four and parking lot number nine before they move off and. two people injured at this point in time. we don't know if the shooter was among them or left the building or activelied in. >> polices are on the run and it appears it is fluid.

adam houseley is there forinous ucla with the latest on the ground. >> reporter: we'll have a camera. we are in the building cross from the parking garage in question. i can see 15 policemen and hear more coming in. and tactical team went in and suiting up. and the problem in the area, it is highly dense. ucla right in the heart of the campus. they are talking. and shots. and they are going in with high-powered roifls. they cocked them and ran past. this is west wood, right smack dab in the main area of the university. and a lot of students are here. and some getting close to the location with no idea what was

going on because it is a huge area to cover and so many buildings and someone could hide or go. and they are are focusing on the area here. but other areas that are of note. we are by the staffmore hall and building. students were has people coming in and out right now. we saw students evacuated also from the engineering building. they brought them down by the parking garage, garage nine, which is on the main thoroughfare here. some of the workers are being taken out now as well. obviously very fluid. as we herd a moment ago from one of the specialists here, one of the law enforcement officers, they don't really know what they have on their hands and they have so many places individuals could hide or go, potentially could cause more carnage, so to speak. that's why they are bringing everybody back. i've heard from law enforcement sources it is literally all

hands on deck. it is a mutual aid situation because there is such a massive area to go through. it is right next to ronald ray zb reagan medical center ucla. you might remember a number of high-profile people are there. a stone's throw away from where this is taking place. right now i am seeing a guy -- behind that suv? two more coming right now. you see them going down the street? i'm seeing police units from all over l.a. here right now. you can hear them coming in from all over. our camera focused on that, all the workers, a lot of could be sfrux s construction going on in this area. i'm going to walk down and see if i can see anything else. repeat one more time, the issue they're going to have here is it is such a highly dense area,

buildings four, five, six, seven stories, you've got everything from the hospital to a number of the engineering hall, obviously. multiple parking garages. there is a lot of places someone can go. that's pretty why the police and law enforcement are a little bit frustrated in the situation because they have so many areas to go. if you know ucla, westwood boulevard ends at westwood plaza right in the middle of the university. it is a roundabout. they've brought in a hook and ladder truck to block off the streets so no one can get out this way. we'll keep you updated. right now our vantage point gets a pretty good look at the tactical response that's going on. >> having just delivered my daughter to have that university the end of the year, that

security is tantamount. but in a situation like that, you just don't know who might have gotten in. adam housely, thanks for that report. seven minutes before 11:00 now in los angeles. we are getting reports from the "daily bruin newspaper," which is ucla's campus newspaper that the shooter was wearing a black jacket and black pants on this late mayday in a very crowded section of los angeles. one sooispsycho biology student he took cover in the library along with several other students and "the whole campus just started running and i started running, too. everyone was very confused. we all got in the building and no one knew what was going on." the l.a. times reported that a number of people on scene thought it was some sort of drill because it just seemed so out of place for this particular area of los angeles. think of this -- 43,000 students

at ucla. and the campus administration estimates that on a busy day, they're in the middle of finals, on a busy day there might be as many as 65,000 or 70,000 people in this area. and it is small, it is very densely populated. if you know los angeles at all, you know parking is at a premium and traffic snarls out of nowhere. for police that's been a very difficult task getting everyone in there. it's been almost an hour since the first shooting reported. what's confirmed to us is two people have been shot. aside from that, where is this shooter or shooters, if you will, because there are -- as always happens in these situations, multiple reports from different students who were there giving different accounts of what they witnessed. some say beware of a male in his 20s and a female. some say there was one shooter. others with other stories. we'll learn eventually from the

public information officers who have now been dispatched by lapd to the scene. but all hands on deck is the phrase of the day as everyone in surrounding areas from law enforcement has been dispatched here. we've watched as a number of officers have gone into what we now believe to be engineering building number four, as previously described here. and out of parking lot nine. going into engineering building number four with axes and crow bars as if trying to access an area. do they have this shooter surrounded? we don't know. they are still on very high alert. they've shut down the entirety of the campus. they are asking people in buildings wherever they are to stay exactly where they are, to cut down on traffic. as a result, there is not a lot of pedestrian traffic in and around. but what we do see is often people running and with a sense of purpose, as has been the case for the last 30 minutes or so. trace gallagher working the story from our los angeles news hub. trace, the challenges are many but the first question is --

who's doing the shooting and where is this person or where are these people? >> yeah, is it one or two is also the question because now you have scanner traffic saying police are not clear if it is one person or two persons. they're getting reports from students on scene that they saw a white male, as well as a white female leaving this building, or in the building. again, all of this stuff you take with a grain of salt because the police have not given us any kind of update as to what they think is happening on scene. so right now we are getting this from people in and around the building and from scanner traffic. you can see now that you've got police surround being engineering building number four. as you said, going in with crowbars and axes. they want to make sure if somebody is barricaded in a certain room or a certain classroom, that they will eventually have access, even if they have to go in through force. park pentag parking lot nine is next to engineering building four.

but if you know the campus, it is a pretty good complex but one of the main entrances comes off wilshire boulevard. that's way below where parking lot nine and engineering building number four are. so the main entrances, if these persons or person were to leave the campus, they would either have to sneak over one of the fences on the outside or try to go through one of the entrances. that would be a long haul to get out to the actual city of westwood, population around 47,000 and a very busy part of west los angeles. so the focus right now is to make sure the students who are sheltering in place are safe. so you have these groups of officers that go from building to building making sure there is nothing happening in those dormitory areas. finals are going on right now. library. and then you set up a perimeter around engineering building number four and you base in park pentagon lot number nine and you make sure that all of the areas where someone might hop a fence to try to go close to the 405 or

sunset boulevard, those areas are blocked off and that's kind of the scenario we have right now. two people injured. we do not know the severity of the injuries. but ronald reagan ucla medical center is right at the entrance of ucla, so it is seconds away. we haven't seen ambulances or ambulance take anybody away yet. now that's just because we're following -- we're at the whims of the helicopter. we haven't seen them take anybody away yet. that could be just something we haven't visibly had our eyes on. but ucla ronald reagan medical center is right there in case there are extreme injuries in this case. >> trace, thanks. back to you in a moment. if you've been following this on twitter or instagram or anywhere else, or facebook, you may have seen reports that there may be captives inside. that was a word that we've seen all over social media today. we've now confirmed through the authorities that there are no

reports of anybody held captive. that's not what this is, according to lapd. what we're going to try to do throughout this, as we do through all breaking news, is see what you see on social, and then call our contacts within law enforcement and government to find out what's true and what isn't true. that's one thing that we can knock down for you. there is no reason to believe that there is anyone held c captive. but there is also no reason to think anybody's been taken into custody. because we've seen no one being taken to the medical center and we've been in touch with the medical center, we don't have any idea whether the people who have been injured have been transported, if they are even accessible by authorities, or exactly what the situation is in engineering building number four. you can see there are a number of news crews coming in there, police still moving in from all parts of los angeles. there really just aren't a lot of answers at this moment. one thing we've come to know over decades with dealing with the lapd is they believe that the best thing to do is get out

as much information as possible when there is a situation like this unfolding. it appears to us from the receiving end of information that they just haven't gotten this all together yet. as it has been developing very quickly. lots of questions to be answered now as we wait for authorities to come to the microphones with an update from ucla. it's 2:00 on the east coast, 11:00 a.m. in los angeles. i'm shepard smith in new york. this is fox news channel's breaking news coverage of a shooting at ucla. a complete lockdown as authorities from all over the region come in and police have confirmed two people have been shot. the authorities have not said this but there are multiple reports, including from witnesses on scene and the campus newspaper, that the suspect is a young man in his 20s, dressed in black pants and a black jacket. the question now is -- where is