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right now consumers chomping at the bit to get their hands on this new laundry folding robot pulled folding eight. is it doesn't look fantastic? i love it >> you really want one, don't you? >> i do. we will be back in an hour. >> this is outnumbered. i'm sandra smith. here today, harris faulkner, moses kennedy on foxbusiness, democratic strategist julie brezinski and today's hashtag, one lucky guy, washington times columnist charlie hurt is here and he is outnumbered. >> outnumbered indeed and glad to be here. >> it's good to have you back, big night last night. >> truly historic. >> let get right to it. let's begin with what was a historic night, hillary clinton becoming nation's first woman to top of the
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ticket of a major political party, winning the biggest prize of california along with three other states and landing a devastating blow against rival bernie sanders. the history of the moment not lost on hillary last night. >> thanks to you, we've reached a milestone. [applause] first time in our nations history that a woman will be a major party's nominee. [applause] >> but despite the odds against him, sanders bowing to take his fight all the way to the convention in philadelphia. his last hope, slipping to his side the hundreds of superdelegates supporting clinton. >> i am pretty good at arithmetic and i know that
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the fight in front of us is a very, very steep fight but we will continue to fight for every vote and every delegate we get. [applause] >> that as democrats tried to unite the party. fox confirming that sanders will be meeting with president obama and senate minority leader harry reid tomorrow. all this as we are still waiting to hear when the president will formally endorse hillary clinton. charlie, you crack me up last night. you are actively tweeting away as we awaited hillary to take the stage. she walked out on that page with her hands on her heart, she shook the hands of supporters and you to tweet out and she walks out in wedding gown white. what do you mean by that? >> i don't think i've ever seen her wear that, she wears lots of colors but i've never seen her wear that particular shade of white and this is a historic night last night. it is eight years later than i think obviously she wanted it to happen and her message
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was, i'm a woman and i'm going to be the firstwoman president . >> those are facts. what did you make a last night? >> it's not playing the gender card to say this is a historic moment. women have not even been the bridesmaids, we've never even had a vice president as a woman and here we have a woman, maybe it's a woman you like or don't like but there's something historic. i remember when barack obama got elected in 2008, me and a lot of people who regardless of our feelings, as historic moment to have an african-american become the first person to take the highest office of land and the same applies here. i'm not voting for her or supporting her because she's a woman , that is a dumb reason to support somebody but the moment is not lost and i think it's not lost especially on women of her generation, not the people we talked about yesterday who haven't had to go through a lot of these people.
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>> but julie, we haven't seen an endorsement by the president yet. when you think that will come? >> soon is because a lot of democrats are getting fed up with presenters. he said essentially on the populace, i'm not part of the establishment, i lost the largest number of pledged delegates, i lost the majority of voters, i'm going to the notes the party bosses and subvert the will of the voters and have them support me. that is contrary to what he stands for. at some point president is going to come out and say it's fine, you want to stand for dc and votelast week until the next vote is cast, go for it . >> historic moment yet bernie sanders steps back and doesn't really even acknowledge it. >> i don't think he's obligated to acknowledge it. he has every right to stay in this race because if she's indicted as we spoken about in julie, you even said if she's indicted she's going to have to step down and what
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bernie sanders going to do? take all this hard work and throw it away so joe biden can been at the last moment and take the nomination? that's not very fair. that's not very just. those are the issues he he has been fighting for and you know, he does have every right. he is not beholden to the party and yes, it's great to see a woman who's a major party nominee. that is historic, that's wonderful. as one of bernie sanders supporters said, i've always wanted to see a woman president, not this one because she has no honor but will the party unite because we now have word that bernie sanders is going to meet with president obama and minority leader harry reid. what happened there? >> i think i'm the burning person on the couch today. i don't know how i got the title. fox has been confirming things over the last 12 or 14 hours, one is we should look forward to staffing changes for bernie sanders and i don't mean bigger. so that will be interesting to see that happen over the next couple of days and what that looks like an before we came to set him in the daily beast catching vice president joe biden on his walk to through the capital, by
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saying we should be a little graceful and give him, meaning sanders, the opportunity to decide on his own. >> do they force him out, charlie? >> they're going to do everything they can to force him out but i agree with kennedy. he has no reason to go anywhere and i think he's going to draw this out because he's a man on a mission now and he's not mad out and he represents a lot of people that the democratic party needs to be there with them. >> except it becomes a rest relevant as time goes on. right now with whatever deal he wants to cut, nearly she's not pushing them out. you want to him to come in the tent but like the senator from oregon was the only senator, the only colleague of bernie sanders in the senate endorsing him, saying it's time to face the music, you might want to go and that is going to increase more and more when people in the democratic party say the enemy not here is not hillary clinton, the enemy is donald trump. the fact we coalesce and the faster the bernie lives up to his commitment to not make suredonald trump becomes the
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next president of the united states we can coalesce and that's going to increase . enough superdelegates are going to sign on to a letter saying they are not going to vote for you. >> and the president is going to come out. talk about the suppressing the will of the voters, superdelegates fly in the face . >> i agree. >> locator did a stunning amount of research on how these superdelegates were clinched for hillary clinton and it was through the hillary clinton victory fund which funneled money to state party bosses who then funneled money to various campaigns and to people so she essentially bought these superdelegates. now he's asking those superdelegates to all of a sudden subvert the will of the very voters that support him that's not my issue. if baby story, the ap anonymously contacting superdelegates that didn't even come out and name the people they were talking about and based on those secretive conversations, they declared that hillary clinton
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was the productive dominique. >> things heating up, we got a lot more to get to. between hillary clinton and donald trump, to into special report tonight when hillary clinton talks to our own brett bear, that's happening at 6 pm eastern time right here on fox news channel, you will not want to miss that. meanwhile, both hillary clinton and donald trump shifting to the general election. the latest politics average joe's them in a dead heat. still, slightly trump, 42 to 44 percent. the candidates wasted no time attacking each other. >> donald trump is temperamentally unfit to be president and commander-in-chief. [applause] he wants to win by stoking fear and rubbing salt in wounds. and reminding us daily how great he is. >> the clintons have turned the politics of personal enrichment into an art form for themselves. secretary clinton even did all the work on a totally
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illegal private server. hillary clinton turned the state department into her private hedge fund. the russians, the saudi's, the chinese. all gave money to bill and hillary and got favorable treatment in return. >> so we will talk a little bit charlie later in the hour about the tenor of each of the candidates. i want to focus in on what they chose to attack each other on, how do they do? >> both those speeches were fascinating in that they were the perfect encapsulation of both teams spent obviously a lot of time on tracking that message and both of those messages i think are the messages that both candidates are going to be hearing all of that from now until november. >> at one point kennedy, donald trump said you can't solve problems by relying on people who created our problems meaning: your kennedy, meaning theclintons and just this whole kind of theme of crookedness . >> that's what he's going to
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sell on monday night as he moves the narrative further. and he talks about you know, their in-depth corruption. i thought what was most fascinating about both their speeches and i think this is important is they both made a grab for bernie sanders supporters. trump, that was one of the very first thing he said andi think he was trying to get in her head when he said that but it also , sanders supporters also illustrate the independent voters out there, the disaffected people who don't really have a party read a mile not necessarily have a candidate. they may have found a home and bernie temporarily and now they're going to be a very important voting block to go after. >> know who else is herman cain, he said happily supporters projected lee would be waiting for free stuff, the other half what are they waiting for? are they potentially up for grabs? >> they are not and polls show herman cain was wrong about that.
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if you recall why sarah palin went on the ticket in the first place, it was because the mccain campaign was making a play to the hillary voters that were disaffected with obama. it didn't work then, it's not going to work now. the bernie sanders if you look at polling which is what i like to do, sympathetically, if wishes were dreams it would be a different story but if you look at specific data, these are liberal, progressive voters. they will not support donald trump. donald trump is an affidavit to them on every level and that's the opinion of the polling so ultimately, look, is he going to unify the party the same way that trump was unifying the party until this fiasco with the judge a couple days ago but until then if you notice all the number trump people were coming home to paul ryan, marco rubio, everybody never supported him in the first place the same way she's going to bring ernie sanders porter's home as soon as sanders gets out. whether sanders was been to or not. >> i wonder and you are hitting a lot on this last night but how much is attack on hillary is going to be she's the first female to lead our party and yet she
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said her husband is going to take care of the economy. >> the idea that she is completely run her campaign looking backwards just as she accused donald trump of doing last night , looking backwards, hovering back to the 90s and to me that just undermines the whole concept. i know a lot of successful women got where they are by writing their husbands. >> i will say one thing about this and that's donald trump if you talk about corruption as got wait for the dnc to unload on him and the reason he doesn't want that trump university ... >> he will have to wait to see what the fbi has on her. >> absolutely. i think you're right and i think there's so much that remains to be seen. we don't know either way and the way this race is shaping up, it's not going to get any less dramatic anytime soon. >> we have a lot of popcorn, well said. a new twist is the hillary clinton email scandal. shocking claims now by the
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state department that releasing all the emails of several clinton aides requested by the rnc would take 75 years. what are you doing in 75 years, charlie? is the investigation being stonewalled ? plus, outrageous drawing. lawmakers joining the call for a judge to resign after sentencing stanford university student to just six months or rate. is justice denied in this case or is the reaction going too far? and there's more up right after the tv version of us wraps up, you can go online. we pop-up on fox news.coméout numbered or on facebook live, that's new. to us, do whatever it takes to get to us because we will getyour comments into our lives show atop the hour online . stay put. >> i'm terrible at golf.
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if you're counting at home, that would take us to the year 2091. what are you going to be doing then? >> i can imagine, john, dropping state department the spokesman explains why it would take so long. >> i've referred to the court filing. it's a very broad range involving a number of, a period of four years and it's not an outlandish specification, believe it or not. >> not at all. let's build a time machine and go to the future. at the same briefing he also appeared to contradict hillary's recent claim that quote, hundreds of people around him and knew about her use of that email. first let's hear from toner. >> we thought this in the past. we talked about the fact that no one among the senior staff has comprehensive knowledge of how much she was using her personal email and if they had, they probably would have done differently. >> what about an intervention? and to recap, here's what hillary said on sunday.
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>> everybody in the department knew that i was emailing from a personal address. hundreds of people knew it. people around the government knew it and you know, that was what the practice had been and that's what i did as well. >> well, not according to the state department. 75 years. is this laziness, bureaucracy or some sort of political cover, what's going on? >> i can figure out if state department is trying to make this scandal go away or they're trying to completely sabotage her campaign because if you think about it, the thing that people don't like about the clintons is they've been with us for so long. we're so tired of them and for them to go out and have a talking point that says it's going to take 75 years, not only are you tired of the now, they're going to be with us another 75 years. >> oversee. >> and not to make you run for the exit. >> it really is and the state department has been horrible
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about fulfilling these foil requests and the reason there's such a backlog is because they haven't been servicing them and they haven't been living up to their obligations so now what? >> they are saying by the way this is 450,000 pages, it would take 900 months. that's 75 years. that doesn't even include the emails that brian probably otto, the one who put the server into the house in the first place. bottom line, there's going to be a lot of speculation as to why they won't release these but priority, what about primary of requests. why can't they move this to the top and have it done in a faster period of time? hire more people. the governments never afraid to do that in the first place. there's think that can be done here. >> she's got a 58 percent shot at being our next president. but now we know the reason that she had the homebrew server to begin with according to that email was to avoid these requests. how transparent. >> here's the thing.
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you for your request, some bureaucrat actually sit there and go line by line to make sure you're not releasing information that shouldn't be released to the public that is dealing with national security in a lot of cases. which is the reason she shouldn't have a private email server. i disagree with you but ultimately , i get it because i dealt with requests and i get that it's completely tied in the reason they can't move this up versus other request is they, you have to fill them in order. what do they have to do to get the information you requested? >> this is judicial watch wants them which is part of the lawsuit from so fromtheir perspective they're not the only . >> that you had to sue in order to get emails. >> i don't disagree with you but the problem here is i get wider your accuracy said 75 years . charlotte brezinski, her grandchildren are going to be running against bush and we will be talking about this but i guess. for rear requests are a pain and i can see why it takes
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her forever.>> this is the old adage, don't ask for permission, ask for forgiveness. with all the attorneys that would have been around the clintons, somebody must have given them the great advice of you know what? if you do this it will be such a kerfuffle with so many volumes of stuff to go through that some pointpeople will just say she should have asked for permission and move on . >> i would imagine that would have been a great advice, the question is will that actually happened? not going to whinge and knock you out? >> it's like asking order to clean the house. it's too messy for them . >> which bucket do i start with? >> so depressing. on to something uplifting perhaps. donald trump seeking a different approach in his victory speech last night, he read from a teleprompter, stayed away from controversy and vowed to make publicans. what to make of his shift in
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>> how did he do? >> i thought it was very good. it proves donald trump is a coachable candidate. i think he's kind of smarting from the whole controversial he has gotten into with the judge. i think he took part advice to find a way to make the teleprompter work. i think it did work. he got a few hooks and jabs in there. there is the one moment where he said the people who didn't vote for me, i was expecting him to be the particular trump and he didn't. he said i'll win you over. i'll promise i won't let you down. it was a remarkable humble speech.
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>> one of the lines that stuck out for me. he says i am known as a fighter and i don't back down. >> i think a lot of people who don't necessarily support him right now, they relate to that, they understand that and admire that. i think it many a smart strategy. harris: does he risk losing his core supporters by being this way. sandra: what about the attention he may be trying to get from sanders supporters. he said we welcome you with open arms. >> i couldn't believe i was
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hearing him say those words. it was far more political live appealing than the way he usually talked. i think that he has a good shot at winning over a lot of people. i thought from the beginning the problems with hillary clinton, she is as known political quantity. people in the sense of politics know whether they like her or don't like her. donald trump has far for wiggle room tomorrow redefine himself and appeal to people. >> i was thinking what i was -- the announcement coming after that speech made me think maybe got past the issues he had the last few days and they are back on track. >> if he can pacify conservatives while still having
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that message it seems almost impossible. he's going to have to find a way to bridge that. but when he talks about the america first strategy, that resonates with people. and and the idea if he can sell his defensiveness and his bravado as i'm fighting for you. that's an attractive quality. if you go with hillary clinton the idea is you are playing it safe. for some people that's enticing. but for a lot of other people they are dissatisfied and they want a fighter. harris: the america first theme he applied to foreign policy. he applied it across the board it was interesting to watch. rolling require's interesting to watch if he follows this path. the lack of discipline for a major party candidate is undisciplined.
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he can't help himself. in my early 20s i used to smoke cigarettes on my roller blades. believe it or not was the most appealing thing about me. what i catch i was my senior year in college. i remember saying i'm not a smoker anymore, i quit. the guy said when did you quit? and i said yesterday. he said come back in 10 years and tell me you are not smoking anymore. harris: i want to give you have the last word. >> i think he has a good opportunity to display that sort of discipline. we have seen it before an has been able to do it. i think he realizes what's at stake. >> i'll bet you one dollar he will go off on a crazy tangent. i'm like donald trump.
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sandra: if donald trump can sit through an interview and not react to the divisiveness after a couple cracks at the bat. then he is coachable. kennedy: a new firestorm brewing for fn * over the second amendment. the social media giant is accused of suppressing posts by guns rights advocates. facebook band the sale of guns and ammo on their site. it's claimed her doing this as an editorial decision. in february our facebook traffic fell off a cliff. it sank by 50% in that month. facebook says it's looking at
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the issue. "forbes" is quoting a gun engineer which is tasked with implementing a no-gun policy saying i'm 100% laser focused on getting your group back to you so you have a chance to get them to comply with your new policy. everyone on facebook is pissed about how this was rolled out. >> clearly facebook is suppression this information anyway. there is no way you can spin it in any other way. but the thing is. what i don't understand. facebook is just a form of communication. and to tell people they are not allowed to trade guns or sell guns on a personal level is like verizon saying you are not allowed to use a telephone to talk to your neighbor and trade guns.
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at the end of the day, facebook does not believe in freedom of speech at least -- sandra: mark zuckerberg had a major problem with accusations their trending topics were altered to suppress conservative content. he called together that big meeting of conservatives that represent a lot of different publications in this country. he takes this seriously. do you think this is actually happening here? kennedy: i do think it's happening. and facebook is overreacting. kennedy: i know what mark zuckerberg is doing. he doesn't want oneincident of gun violence where it can be traced back to the gun being sold on facebook. they have to realize that half the country is pro second amendment. if they feel like their speech
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and expression is being thwarted by a private company, they will take their social media elsewhere. sandra: curtis said his company page was suppressed due to too much commercial content. harris: so they had the meeting about the algorithms saying things that were trending. and not putting in conservative views. everything that was trending tended to have more of a liberal view. then they have this. mark zuckerberg can't have it both ways. he can't stream to the hills i care so much, then have people in his company put forth these policies. writes this thinking coming from? rather than having more meetings with conservatives, he needs a meeting with their own people and figure out what their policies are at facebook. >> he's concerned about the p.r. problem.
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julie: at the end of the day, kennedy, you nailed it. it's a private company. the trending thing i thought was ridiculous. but i have a problem with congressmen coming in saying we are going to investigate. they can't. if mark zuckerberg wants to ban me from facebook, they can. they have social media networks that ban women breast feeding on facebook. but if he wants to do that, it's his decision. sandra: is it fair to mislead users. it's a publicly traded company. is it fair to mislead shareholders for what the company claims is an open forum. julie: he has a policy where he doesn't want any guns sold or trade on facebook. he doesn't want any liability. then i guess it's a fair and just decision.
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this as the judge quietly slid into a new term yesterday as he ran unopposed. california lawmakers are calling for the judge to resign saying if he doesn't do that, they will exhaust other measures against him. judge persky is a stanford alum who was captain of his lacrosse team. >> the judge went out of his way and bent over backward to give this young perpetrator probation with a few weeks stay in the santa clara county jail. harris: we had a heated discussion about this on the couch yesterday, and some blogs picked it up. we were in agreement that the
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leniency of punishment is egregious. but all of these signatures are meaningful but are too late in the process to get him recalled. >> obviously the whole thing is a horrible case and it's disgusting. and i think it' interesting to hear these politicians try to come out here and make politic out of it. you hear people like senator barbara boxer condemning the judge. i never heard senator barbara boxer condemn any judge for leniency before. the idea they will take a terrible case and justice was not done here. to take this and turn it into something to their political advantage, i think did not help the political situation. >> you and i focused in on the human element. we aren't talking about the young woman much this happened to. her body left behind a dumpster, the thing that happened to her.
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>> she stayed anonymous. i think there is some amazing parts of this story where she said she is deeply gratified that people are fighting for someone they don't know anything about. she is so grateful for the two graduate student who intervened. they were the ones who she called heroes. she has drawn two pictures of bicycles, they were on their bicycles riding buy. she has drawn the bicycles and put them on her wall above her bed and looks at them every night. harris: that dad wrote a letter to the courtroom talking about how great his kid is and how he should have gone the probation because there should be a net positive in all this. you and i respectfully disagree. julie: all i'm saying about
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that, it's a complicated case because the father is 100% wrong. this kid who is not a kid is an adult. it's the worst thing you can do short of killing somebody. i got a couple of emails from women after watching this segment who told me their own stories of being raped. i want them to know i read them and i feel what they were talking about. but for me, there are two times of parent out there. the kind of parent that say if you did this you are going to have to face the music. i'll turn you in, you are on your own. i did not raise you that way. harris: i'm that type of parent. julie: other parent say my child is somebody i uncondition alley love, i will stand behind them no matter what and you have a blind spot to your kid. i have a son. i hope i never raise him to think leaving someone behind a zup sister is the appropriate thing to do.
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with the judge within however, who handed down what i think is a reprehensible sentence. i have a hard type recalling judges or politicians unless they did something illegal. he ran unopposed. he will continue to run unopposed again. unless there is something illegal the fact i think this ruling was disgusting and reprehensible. there is no reason to recall him. 600,000 signatures. the response is visceral. where should they take their grief? kennedy: i think they should listen to the victim and focus on the other victims of sexual assault that doesn't necessarily happen on campus. these are bad people committing horrible acts. the perpetrator as the victim said was from even under
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privileged background and it was a first-time offense. would they be given 6 months in prison that would turn into a couple weeks or would it be much worse? i think we have to try and figure out why we fixate on certain elements of certain cases and whether that does us any good in moving the conversation forward. because, you know, i think a guy like this does so much more harm to indent men on college campuses who get wrapped up in cases like these. harris: having his father defend him line by line. kennedy: it's disgusting. harris: america has countless business success stories. but a new report shows millionaires control more of the country's wealth. what's it like to be in good hands? like finding new ways
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sandra: new concerns about wealth inequality as a new report find america's millionaires control 2/3 of our nation's wealth. 66%. that's the highest concentration in the world. and the millionaires' concentration of wealth is expected to rise to 70% by 2020. the report's coauthor says investment gains are outpacing wage growth. i blame the fed. i think any centralized tinkering with interest rates is propping up the stock market. they are getting wealthy by investing. >> the stock market has been a difficult place for main street with wild swings in the market. lots of volatility and we have
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seen them refrain from from jumping into this historic market rally. but we should never demean wealth, we should never demean success. we should promote it. 8 million household in america have crossed that threshold and are in the millionaire's club. second is china with $2 million and japan with 1 million. those millionaires are buying boats and planes and cars and homes. many times they are small business owners. kennedy: part of the problem is we have so much regulation. now this push for minimum wage. you will never see people enter the millionaire class if they are making $15 an hour because that's all anyone is going to make. >> politicians are disgusting on this issue.
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she talked about income inequality wearing a $12,000 blouse. kennedy: she should redistribute that. but the one thing i know isn't the solution is the government. the government has been trying to solve this problem for a long time, and that's the big different between bernie sanders and donald trump supporters. while they are all disaffected voters. they don't think that more government is the answer. bernie sanders supporters do think that more government -- harris: it was a beaded jacket and it was almost $13,000. >> i don't have one. kennedy: child labor. those tiny hands -- harris: just in terms of how we sow the seeds and get there, if you are going to pay everybody double what they are making now for the early entry-level jobs that we have, part of what made us great as a country is that
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onus on all of to us get out much that position. if you make it too cushy for people are they going to be the best fighters to get to that point? >> i don't think it's cushy at all. i think the answer you are seeing is what you are seeing about people being upset. >> i'm upset we don't have more time for this. real cheese people get
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sandra: thanks to charlie hurt for joining us on the couch today. it's always fun to have you. we hope to have you back soon. bret baier has hillary clinton on at 6:00 p.m. "happening now" starts right now. nate. >> the medical examiner revealing what caused the accident that many thought was a suicide. isis, upping the ante. how the islamic state is using suicide attacks and what the troubling thing means on the war on terror. and identical twins in a nasty fight. one woman drove off the cliff and she
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