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night, 10:00 eastern, right here on "hannity". our thoughts and prayers are with the people in orlando. we'll see you back here tomorrow night. ex-con imam tied to the radical terrorist. good night. >> "the o'reilly factor" is on, tonight. >> it was complete mayhem. everybody was so nervous. >> get along. -- such a short time. >> god be with them. got bless their soul. it's hard. >> the mass murder in orlando now has implications in the presidential race. tonight, we will talk with donald trump and talking points will define the main issues. >> to me, radical jihadiism, radical islamism, mean the same thing. i'm happy to say either. >> hillary clinton now using the words radical islam but president obama still will not. we will analyze that also tonight, charles
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krauthammer, brit hume, and geraldo on the scene in orlando. >> he was shooting through everybody. through everything, to everything that moves he would shot at it. >> caution, you are about to enter the no spin zone. the factor begins right now. ♪ ♪ hi, i'm bill o'reilly. thanks for watching us tonight. the aftermath of the orlando massacre, that is the subject of this evening's talking points memo there are two major situations the nation must deal with in the interest of your public safety. keeping you and the people you care about safe from random violence. first, the islamic jihadi, second, guns. on the isis jihadi front, congress must declare war on specific terror groups like isis. shifting the primary role of protection from law enforcement to the military.
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a declaration of war would allow the president much more leeway in neutralizing terror threats both within the country and outside the country. also nato nations would then have to step up the fight against the savages, bringing more power to the battlefield, which, of course, is everywhere. this strategy is not a knock at american law enforcement. they are doing excellent work. but, as we have learned in the orlando case, the fbi had the terrorists omar mateen in its files. civil liberties being what they are, suspicions are not enough. you can't detain someone for long without proof of a crime. in a war situation, a declared war, investigators would have far more options in defining enemy threats and dealing with them. it is troubling that the current commander and chief will not say the words islamic terror to define the threatening enemy. again today, responding to the mass murder carried out by an isis sympathizer,
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barack obama would not reference the specific threat from the islamic jihadi. >> as far as we can tell right now, this is certainly an example of the kind of homegrown extremism that all ofs have you been so concerned about for a very long time. >> so-called homegrown extremism is a problem that will never be solved. there will always be violent loons like timothy mcveigh and the boston marathon killers. no power on earth can extinguish that. but organizations like isis and al qaeda are far different story. they can be cob fronted and destroyed just as the third like was reich was during world war ii. talking points will say it again there is no difference between isis and the isis ideology, none. hitler and followers terminated homosexuals for
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exterminations. atlanta terrorists hated and targeted guys in conjunction with the isis philosophy. president obama doesn't seem to understand that you cannot contain evil. you must destroy it. policies of retreat in the middle east directly led to the rise of isis, a situation that has resulted in horrific mass murders in at least 20 countries, as well as the migration crisis now going on in europe. at first, mr. obama tried to marginalize isis by calling it the jv, then he outsourced the fight to the kurds and other groups. foolishly stating that they might be able to mitigate the threat. because the liberal american press has largely supported the retreat, mr. obama's continued failure to stop the jihad or even define the threat accurately is basically down played by the national media summing up, america is attack by muslim fanatics. just because they don't use
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tanks and planes doesn't mean it isn't war. it is. now on to guns. president obama is much more comfortable promoting antigun policy than he is discussing the jihadi. >> we are also going to have to make sure that we think about the risks we are willing to take by being so lax in how we make very powerful firearms available to people in this country. and this is something that that obviously i have talked about for a very long time. >> mr. obama is correct in asserting that congress should debate which weaponry is acceptable under the second amendment. public safety demands that certain weapons not be allowed. you can't sell a bazooka or hand grenades. congress has the power to outlaw specific weapons and did so in 1994 with certain
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kinds of rifles, but that ban has now lapsed. the debate over weaponry is valid and necessary. but when you hear a politician or pundit say that banning guns will stop mass murder, no, you are -- know you are being deceived. there are hundreds of millions of guns in the u.s.a. and bad people will always be able to get them, period. also self-protection is guaranteed by the constitution and that will never change. all americans have a right to own firearms. not necessarily to carry them around, to own them. states make carry laws depending on what their population wants. now, 20 years ago, there was a mass murder in tasmania, a part of australia. 35 people shot dead by a maniac using a semiautomatic rifle. australia with a population of 24 million then banned automatic and semi-automatic
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rifles as well as essentially banning handguns. caught one within illegally you can get 14 years in prison. since that time, 1996, gun murders have dropped 72% in australia. but here's the kicker. roughly during the same period of time, gun murders in the u.s.a. have dropped 30%, nonfatal shootings 61%. why? not because of banning guns, but because of long prison terms given to violent offenders, including drug gangsters. that strategy now being attacked by the left. summing up, the same constitutional gun policy might be this. certain kinds of deadly weapons should be banned for sale by congressional legislation. all crimes committed with guns, including illegal gun sales should be federalized and subject to strict, mandatory prison terms. but the right to arm
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firearms for individual protection, protection of families should remain protected everywhere. and the right to carry should be determined by individual states. what works in delaware might not work in idaho. america needs to punish the jihadists and protect its own citizens. by finding realistic solutions to vexing problems. crazed idealogues on both sides actually help the terror killers. and so do weak leaders. and that's the memo. next on the rundown, charles krauthammer will reply. later, donald trump enters the no spin zone. the factor will be right back. i'm in vests and as a vested investor in vests,
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in the impact segment tonight reaction to my talking points memo. joining us from washington charles krauthammer. so let's take the congress declaring war on islamic terrorism first. do you think that's a good idea? >> it's a good idea but it will make no difference what server it's all -- look, it will make us perhaps feel better and it may make it easier for lawyers to approve certain measures but look, you either you have a president who wants to wipe them out or you don't. you can pass all the laws in congress you want. >> but i'm looking down the road to the next president, quite frankly. >> the next president will have to make a speech, explain that he or she is going to do something really different, ask for an authorization from congress. >> right. >> and we will get it immediately. it's like bush after 9/11. >> i agree with you. that thing would pass outside of nancy pelosi and harry reid, everybody else would vote for it because
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their political careers would be destroyed if they didn't. what it does is, it gives more power to people investigating guys like omar mateen to isolate them. they become prisoners of war. they become treasonners. you can do many, many more things and can you in a civil libertarian law enforcement atmosphere. you cannot? >> look, the declaration of war, essentially, what was called the authorization for the use of force, that was done after 9/11, gave us a lot of power in the afghan field. but then you have got a president who came n 2009, with the law still on the books, and decided that the war on terror was a bad idea and he was going to end it. >> he didn't want to do anything about it internally. as i said in the talking points, you are not going to stop the mcveighs and the boston marathon guys and
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this guy. you can't stop everybody. but the fbi is good. and the other intelligence agencies are good. and if they had more power that they would under a war powers act, then you could really put some damage on these lone wolves they call them. >> bill, what i'm trying to sprain to you that the power and the actual use of the power by the fbi is not going to come from another law. the example i was trying to give you, before you interrupted me, was that under the law in afghanistan, we have been not interrogating prisoners because we have a president who doesn't believe in that. wants to bring everybody to a new york cell give them a lawyer and miranda rights instead of guantanamo. it's not going to be the law. it's going to be the directions from the president. >> all right. >> whoever that is. and that president, if they are serious, will pass a law. if not, they won't. >> i'm looking down the road now. only six more months of
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barack obama. you know, and then he becomes a lame duck. so we get a consensus of the country. that's what you need. you need democrats and liberals to join on, too. >> that's all up to the president. >> well, barack obama is not going to lead on the issue. he showed it today. >> we agree. it's on the next president. >> right. >> that president will either lead or he will not. >> trump is pounding the table. big issue for him. he comes in right after you. but hillary clinton seems tougher than obama. but what's your measure on her? >> well, just looking at the history, what we know from the internal deliberations, she was much tougher during the internal deliberations, particularly on a place like syria for early intervention when there really was an opposition that was table. and for doing something that might have been decisive. obama was not. we know what happened. on the withdrawal from iraq, i think she went along, but i think if she had been
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given the choice, meaning if she were president, it's likely that her foreign policy would be far more hawkish. i think sanders has been correct. basically he accused her of being that during the campaign. and i think he was right. look, if you go back and what item plate do we have here? to her husband's administration, he was a lot tougher than we would have expected. and the 1990s were relatively successful in terms of foreign policy. >> yet, he allowed al qaeda to rise in power to establish their camps in afghanistan. he blew up a pill factory when he got in trouble because he wasn't effective in stopping the growing jihadi. but be that as it may. hillary clinton made a mistake in him i can't. she didn't understand what would happen after qaddafi was removed. >> and trump supported that mistake. and i was as vocal as anyone in the 1990s in decrying the
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unseriousness of clinton's response to al qaeda. but, let's remember i saw it. a lot of people know it before 9/11 it was not a popular argument to get tough on al qaeda. i mean, you lay the blame at clinton's feet, but overall, i think he did a pretty good job in foreign policy. and if that's the template that we're using for trump to accuse her on libya, i think is rather hypocritical since he obviously vocally, publicly supported it. >> all right. charles krauthammer, everybody. as always, thank you for a good debate. one footnote, i will be appearing on the colbert program this evening speaking about my talking points memo and the terror attack in orlando. directly ahead, as mentioned, donald trump will be here. we invited both him and hillary clinton on this evening. mr. trump has plenty to say about the orlando terror attack. and, later, geraldo rivera with the very painful aftermath of so many people being killed in florida.
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campaign 2016 segment tonight, the orlando terror attack will have a direct bearing on the presidential vote. so we invited both hillary clinton and donald trump on the program this evening. mrs. clinton could not make it but donald trump joins us now from manchester, new hampshire. why do you think president obama is not fighting isis as aggressively as, perhaps, he could? >> i think nobody knows, bill. i have absolutely no idea. all i know is that he should be. why he doesn't fight it and why he doesn't fight it with strength and with vigor, nobody knows. that's certainly a topic of conversation for plenty of
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people. but he is not too long a good job. that is for sure. >> now, if you don't know, and i don't know either, although i think that he believes that his outreach to the muslim world that the president's personal outreach deintensifies attention directed at the u.s.a. i think he believes that you said this morning on "fox & friends" or you implied there may be a sinister reason for him not engaging isis more aggressively. do you want to define that further? >> i can't define it i mean, nobody knows what's going on. nobody knows why he doesn't have more anger. why he doesn't have more competitive zeal. sea competitive person. why doesn't he have more competitive zeal to knock them out, bill. look at what's going on. look at what's happening? this orlando attack was just absolutely horrendous and, yet, he still doesn't even use the word of radical islamic terror. >> i hammered. >> he won't use the words. >> i hammered him in the
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talking points more continuing that ridiculous thing. hillary clinton has backtracked on that. in the second segment with mr. trump we are goi deal with hillary clinton i want to keep it on the orlando terror attack now. in your speech today in new hampshire, you made a lot of reference to your policy of not allowing muslims in here, okay, on a temporary basis. >> temporary until we find out what's going on. >> who they are. >> and what they have in mind. >> okay. but there really isn't any linkage that i can find or the fbi can find between refugees, so-called refugees, all right, women and children, primarily, coming here and violence. >> so what are you asking? >> why do you think this is a centerpiece in anti--terror fighting if there really isn't any linkage in those kinds of folks coming over? >> well, i don't think you know that linkage yet?
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what's going to happen two years from now? what's going to happen 10 years from now. what's going to happen 5 years from now. look at the boston bombers. they were already here. their family came here and they weren't radical when they were 6, 7 years old and all of a sudden they blew people up during the boston marathon. you just don't know what's going on here. you know, they listen to the internet and they fall in love with isis. bad things are happening, bill. and we have to get down to it, otherwise, we're not going to have a country at all. we're going to have this happening every weekend. what happened to -- what happened in orlando is so disgraceful and so shocking on so many levels, and we just can't have a country like this anymore, bill. we have -- we need a president that's going to show passion to solve the problem. he sit there, he talks almost like is he falling -- bill, it's almost like is he falling asleep. >> there is urgency. now, in the orlando situation, the fbi had the
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guy under surveillance, knew he was a bad guy, didn't have enough to charge him with anything, so they say, director comey spoke today. do you believe the fbi botched that case? >> look, i'm a big fan of the fbi. there is no bigger fan than me. look, they have had better days. let's face it they had him twice and supposedly even a third time they were looking or thinking about it. he was a bad dude. he was a bad guy. a lot of bad things said about him. that's the big part of my speech. the muslims have to turn people. in the muslims, you will find out, now all sorts of things will be said about this guy and people will say oh gee, why didn't we get him? we have to turn people in. >> okay. that being said, he didn't commit any crimes. he was totally free record up until the attack on the nightclub. his father is a provocateur. his father is a pro-taliban guy.
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>> right. >> would you do anything to had this man because we do have freedom of speech here. >> the father shouldn't have been allowed in the country years ago when he came here, right? he was trouble then and he obviously something is going on right now. even the way he did that interview. i said what's going on? this is a guy you call him a professional or call him something. the father shouldn't have been allow to do come in to our country in the first place. first question you talk about coming into our country. we haven't found anything. they have only been here a short period of time. what's going to happen in two years and five years? what's going to happen in 15 and 20 years? a lot of times the children there, seems to be no very good assimilation. a lot of times the children of people who come into the country become a big problem. i mean, you, again, look at the boston bombers, i mean these two horrible beasts, they came in the parents were here and brought these kids in and became radicalized later on when they were in the country. bad things are happening,
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bill. we have a president who looks like is he falling asleep when he talks about the subject. >> all right. now we're going to hold mr. trump over because we have some questions for him about hillary clinton and what she said today. and, once again, secretary clinton is welcome any time on this broadcast. the factor will be right back. (vo) if you have type 2 diabetes, you may know what it's like to deal with high... and low blood sugar. januvia (sitagliptin) is a once-daily pill that, along with diet and exercise, helps lower blood sugar. januvia works when your blood sugar is high and works less when your blood sugar is low, because it works by enhancing your body's own ability to lower blood sugar. plus januvia, by itself, is not likely to cause weight gain or low blood sugar (hypoglycemia). januvia should not be used in patients with type 1 diabetes or diabetic ketoacidosis. tell your doctor if you have a history of pancreatitis. serious side effects can happen, including pancreatitis which may be severe and lead to death. stop taking januvia and call your doctor right away if you have severe pain in your stomach area which may be
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radical islam i think mean the same thing. i'm happy to say either. all this talk and demagoguery and rhetoric is not going to solve the problem. >> and your reaction? >> well, first of all, she didn't use the words. she said she would say the words but she didn't say words. and second of all radical islamic terrorism. she is trying to soften it up. she is doing that because she is afraid of president obama who has a lot of power over her future. he could put her in jail. >> she did say radical islam is possible. >> she didn't use the term. she used radical islamicism. she didn't use radical islamic terrorism. there is a difference. she didn't say it she said she would use it bill, the only reason she did do it because i have been pounding her. >> there is no doubt about it? >> if i didn't do that she would have never -- bill, if i didn't do that shield have
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never said those words. >> i don't know that but you are much better at that mind reading thing than i am. >> i don't want the credit. i just said if i didn't pound her on it, she wouldn't have said it. >> you hammered the secretary today in your speech for basically saying, look, you're, you, mrs. clinton, are not protecting guys because your soft approach to islam in general or islamic fundamentalism in general discounts the fact that most muslims, perhaps most, sharia law certainly, has disdain towards new mexicos, you really hammered her on that. was that fair? >> i think it's fair, 100 percent fair. i'm far better for the gay community than she is. she talks a lot about it and yet she will allow people in who want to kill people from the community, from that community. and i think it's terrible. the same thing with women. they want to make women slaves, knock they want to make women slaves. that's what they do. and, yet, she is fine with,
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you know, the women saying isn't she wonderful? she is not wonderful for women. she wants people coming. in she wants 500 percent increase in people coming in from syria that are radical islamists, okay? >> whoa, whoa, whoa. >> in many cases. >> she wants to take in humanitarian under the humanitarian banner as president obama does, and the democratic party does. the entire party. they want to take people -- >> -- then we should build, bill. >> wait a minute, let me ask the question. >> go ahead. >> but she would refute very we hem negligently that she would ever allow any radical muslim in here. she would never do that. so is it fair for you to accuse her of doing that? >> of course. because she doesn't know who is coming in. there is no paperwork. there is no documentation. sure, they think everyone is going to be beautiful. these people, they will tell everybody how wonderful they are and they will come in and then they will blow up a club like they blew up over the weekend or they will do
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something else. bill, i mean, she is allowing these people to come in, 500 percent increase she wants. they hate women or certainly they want women to be their slaves openly said they want to kill gays. >> you are conflating both radicals and refugees. >> let me ask you this question. >> bill. >> you know, let me ask you this question. you know there are good loyal muslim americans who love this country and died for this country. >> true. true. i have many friends. >> do you believe that there is a danger now that because of your hot rhetoric about the topic and i agree with some of what you are saying, okay, you have got to vet these people from overseas. you can't let them all. in i agree. but you see that you could be contributing to a demonization of all muslims in general? is that possible? >> no. just the opposite. i really believe it's just the opposite. i have many friends. you know that. i have said it before.
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i have many friends who are muslims. i get many calls from people who are muslim thanking me. i have incredible friends, wonderful friends. some are very successful, some aren't. i have many muslim friends, thanking me, not all of them but many of them, but the fact is she is aloying massive number of people to come in and they are not all radicalized and all terrorists but it doesn't take many, bill. if you take a look, this is one young man that did this damage, 50 people killed and probably a lot more to follow. they are very, very gravely injured in hospitals right now, they are wounded so badly. so this is one man. so, it doesn't take very many. but we have many -- in my opinion, you have many coming in, and they are smart and they are cunning and they know how to get through the system. by the way, they have stolen our passport machine so they make passports better than we make passports. we don't know who is coming in and, frankly, our president doesn't know what the hell he is doing. >> one last question.
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do you believe muslim americans fear you a little bit? >> i hope not. i want to straighten things out. but it's so important that they -- and they're tremendous people. it's so important that when they see trouble going on, like they did in san bernardino. i mane, there were numerous people who saw bombs all over this apartment floor, they knew something was going on. they never reported him or her. they never reported and 14 people killed and many, many people injured. same thing here, you will find out with this savage that did this horrible thing over the weekend that many people said oh, i knew that was going to happen. they have got to report him. because the muslims are the ones that see what's going on. the muslims are the ones that have to report him. and if they don't report him, then they there have to be consequences to them. >> all right, mr. trump as always, we thank you for making the time on a busy day. and when we come right back, brit hume on how the terror attack may shifted the political landscape. then geraldo down in orlando with the terrible aftermath
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let's get right to the fox news senior political analyst who joins us from washington. you heard mr. trump about the terrible attack in orlando and you also heard his speech today and you say? >> well, it would be pretty hard to argue on this monday, bill, that the obama administration and by extension, i guess, the clinton state department's policies against terrorism have been a success. remember, this is the president who said not long ago that isis had been contained. that was before paris. and it was certainly before orlando. and we now see that isis is by no means contained. he pledged his allegiance to isis even as he carried out this massive attack over the weekend. clear opening for donald trump and muscular approach that he has outlined to deal with isis. and it thrusts this issue into the forefront of the political campaign, at least for now. so he has got an opening and he has got an approach and it was interesting to me that he did a speech up in new hampshire in which he stuck pretty much to his
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script. he had a couple of slip-ups but they weren't that grave and he basically did the same in his conversation with you. so he may be, you know, on to something here. >> is it fair to build a policy of exclusion around a loon like the guy in orlando and the two brothers up in boston and the guys out in california and say, look, even though muslims are suffering in different regions of the world we are not going to help them out. is that fair. >> he wants a temporary ban on muslim into the united states. >> refugees. that's the big thing, that these people are suffering. other countries are taking them. we are not. >> right. that -- and, look, i'm not saying that i agree with that policy. what i'm saying though is, is that it isn't as extreme as it has been outlined since is he saying quite
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clearly. >> no. in the context of public safety. now i'm going to ask you do you agree with the policy of temporarily stopping all muslims from coming to the u.s.a.? >> it's not my job here to make policy pronouncements, bill. it's my job to assess the politics of it. that position offends a lot of people on the left and presumably a number of people in the center. but in the wake of this attack, this kind of caution about muslim immigration, it seems to me, has some strength. as people look at this and they say how did this guy? yes, this guy was born here and yes, he was an american citizen. but as trump suggested, he is the child of immigrant parents from afghanistan. one of whom thinks the father -- the father thinks he is the president of afghanistan and is pro-taliban. so you wonder whether people like that should be coming here. >> the answer to that would be no. they are not. >> right. >> i mean my policy is pretty simple. that you slow it down that
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you don't accept u.n. mandated people. if it takes a long time, it takes a long time. that's how you do it. i wouldn't effectuate a ban but would effectuate a very strict process about allowing people in. that being said, what do you do with people like the terror guy and his father? the fbi knew this guy was trouble. he didn't brake the law he was yammering. the father is trouble we know he is trouble but is he just yammering. what do you do with him? >> that's the dilemma. posed why this particular case. this is truly, it appears, a homegrown terrorist, an american citizen who had been identified as a possible troublemaker because, as you pointed out, he hadn't committed any crimes, our laws do not permit to you simply say we kind of don't like this guy we better put him on a specialist, no guns for this guy. his civil liberties will be curtailed. we can't do that. >>. no and people don't understand that you just
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can't say no guns for in -- this guy. if he is not breaking a law. and the state of florida has no beef against him because each state has their own laws about firearms. you can't go in and say look, omar, you can't do this, you can't do that known can do that last word. >> that's right. that's right. so it's hard to know exactly what the defense is in a situation like this. but, one thing is certain is that it does, i think, strengthen the argument in political terms for a more robust and aggressive. >> sure. >> muscular approach to terrorism broadly speaking. >> and if congress would declare war, as they should have done a long time ago on the jihadi, islamic terrorism, then you could stop omar from doing anything you wanted to do under a war powers act. >> true. >> brit hume, everybody. geraldo deck. he has been interviewing survivors of the mass shooting down in florida. shooting down in florida. [ guitar playing ] ugh. heartburn. sorry ma'am. no burning here. try new alka-seltzer heartburn relief gummies. they work fast and don't taste chalky.
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the mass shooting in orlando yesterday was truly shocking, even thousands of miles away folks were affected emotionally, so you can imagine what those on the scene are going through. >> everybody was screaming, and then when i was running on the floor, i could see the people falling in frmt of me. there was a lot of blood, people getting killed. he was shooting at everybody. to everybody, everything that moves, he would shoot at it. >> you would hear the screaming and the blood and the guy next to me falls over, and that's when i look behind me and you see the v.i.p. area going down. >> nicholas torrez and angel perez were inside. during the interview perez
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received a phone call saying mccool was killed. >> yeah, she was there. from what we heard she was missing but now we just found out -- >> she died. >> joining us now from orlando is geraldo rivera. have all the victims been identified yet? >> reporter: as of midday, i would say, bill. there were a few who had to be identified. remember i said yesterday the carnage was pretty savage. they were chocked up. mateen using his full complement of ammunition to republican chop up some of the people that were murdered. we were with families all day. my particular headline was it was ironic but the blood is flowing in the form of blood donations. money is also flowing. gofundme -- gofundme.com, the startup, is doing a great job
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with equity florida. i apologize for the helicopter overhead. they broke the record. they raised a mill upiion. they passed $1.5 million by noon. they're approaching $2 million, which is great. but the community is really profound, bill. i've been with the families all day long. many of them are latino. almost all of them are latino. it was latino night at the pulse club behind me. many from puerto rico. their families flying in. jetblue is donating flights. many of these families have very modest means, so the trauma really sinking in to the survivors, like you played that sound from chris ortiz from jimmy de la velasquez. >> i wanted to ask you about him. but first i wanted to make a
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comment about jetblue. they always seem to stand up, that airline. they always seem to do the right thing. that's a good company. >> reporter: i totally agree with that. >> mr. ortiz says all the guys around me are dead, they're falling. how did he survive? how did he get up? >> he and his buddy carlito carlos went into the restroom. if you read some of the accounts, there were two bathrooms. one the gunner got in, mateen got in and mowed people down. the other ones stood in front of the tdoor, even though he was firing through the door the dead and living inside the bathroom were protected by a wall. some died inside the bathroom but he couldn't open the door to get inside. jimmy didn't get into the restroom. jimmy was slaughtered with the
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48 others. jimmy, a very, very important story is emerging. as i reported here last night, there was only the one exit, the exit behind at the patio and some of the other rear doors were all padlock. there was tonal 36-inch wide front entrance and the killer mateen stood astride that entrance with his weapons so the people trying to escape were the first ones he mowed down. >> a fire situation could have occurred there as well if that were the case, and it was. all right, geraldo, appreciate the update, thank you very much. some of the actors at the tony awards last night went political, but one guy really stood out. "the tip" moments away.
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return next saturday. if you become a billoreilly.com premium member you can get "legends & lies" or any other books free of charge. richard of otter rock, oregon, i agree lunatics can never be stopped from killing. but as a gun rights supporter, how can a person under suspicion for terror own a gun. just like you and me. >> president obama and hillary clinton blaming the terror attack in orlando on guns is like blaming cars on drunk driver. they both use the occasion to call for stricter rules for firearms, but they did not blink. ken from glendale, arizona, everyone should stop calling these killers lone wolves. they're lone cowards.
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i agree. liam forward from alabama, when you put the mentally ill label on a killer you give the person an excuse. they're evil. i agree, except in extreme cases. that trevor lloyd, i've read all the kill books and they "killing reagan" is your best, o'reilly. i appreciate that, trevor. and finally the "tip of the day," on the tony awards broadcast last night actor frank angela won best role. he was very eloquent in accepting the award reference the terror attack. >> when something bad happens, we have three choices. we let it define us, we let it destroy us, or we let it
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strengthen us. today in orlando we had a hideous dose of reality, and i urge you, orlando, to be strong because i'm standing in a room full of the most generous human beings on earth, and we will be with you every step of the day. >> factor "tip of the day," we applaud frank's humanity and sentiment. that's it for tonight. check out our website. we'd like you to spout off on "the factor." plenty to talk about. name and town, name and town. now, tomorrow we're going to have reaction to my talking points tonight and my apeespeare on colbert this evening. a lot of stuff swirling around the factor. we're going to get it all
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tomorrow. again, thanks for watching us today. i'm bill o'reilly and always remember that the spin stops right here. we're definitely looking out for you. breaking tonight, the feds are looking at the possibility of an accomplice now as they chase down hundreds of leads in the orlando nightclub massacre trying to determine if the man behind our nation's worst terror attack since 9/11 had any help. welcome to t"the kelly file." i'm megyn kelly from orlando. a mad man bust into a well known orlando nightclub and opened fiefrmt fox news has learned that authorities are now looking for direct evidence that omar mateen may have scouted out other locations for his ram pain including an area known
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