"outnumbered" starts right now >> president obama arriving in orlando we are told in the next hour, he is expected to meet with families and loved ones of the victims killed in sunday's nightclub massacre and a lot coming to like about a savage did this. and his wife. some of his chilling last words. this is "outnumbered", i'm harris faulkner. he is sandra smith, host of kennedy on foxbusiness, kennedy herself. democrat strategist julie regency and are hashtag one lucky guy fox contributor and direct veteran pete hegseth. outnumbered, but not really. >> because you are friends.

until you turn on me. >> until you argue with us. >> let's get it on. >> good to have you, we got a lot to get through. we are awaiting president obama's arrival in orlando, stunning new pieces of information we are learning about the worst terror attack in america since 9/11. multiple reports now, omar mateen was turned away from a florida gun store after raising suspicions when he asked about body armor and bulk ammunition. abc news reporting a store owner warned authorities three weeks before the attack on the nightclub. and reports that mateen's wife was with him when he bought ammo. she could face 49 counts of being an accessory to murder. and what we now know about the savage was doing inside the pulse nightclub as he executed the people there. the terrorists checked the internet for news of the attack. if the statement was trending and raised against america and several facebook postings in, the real muslims will

never accept the filthy ways of the west. you kill innocent women and children by doing us airstrikes. now taste the islamic states vengeance and in his final posting, and ominous warning. in the next few days, you will see attacks from the islamic state in the usa. store owner goes to the authorities three weeks before the attack. we are looking for red flags, are we fighting them? >> we are finding more than as we almost always do. the father had talked favorably about the taliban. this is clearly a guy who trained at some level because of the call he had inside that nightclub. he had trip to saudi arabia, mentioned other jobs he was denied from or torn away from. there's always more signs than what we initially recognize which leads me to believe, it has to fortify all of us and i don't see it all on the fbi about how much vigilance we have to have, how willing to cut through the political correctness that holds us back from identifying people who could

be eventually at war with us on our own soil because this is not a criminal act. we have to start separating this. this is an act of war. we are at war with an enemy who is infiltrating us and until we find that vigilance collectively and individually, we will miss all these times because no one individual can put it all together. >> what's interesting center, it's perhaps a more of a trend that authorities can look for now. he's kind of not really loan walls. now they have spouses. look at san bernardino. look at the lives they are investigating. >> go back to james comey's comments. we investigated this man multiple occasions and went on. there wasn't enough there so you look at what happened with these gun store owners and this particular one, otis gunn works who had to tell

him we don't carry body armor but then it was a red flag. this guy wanted to buy guns and body armor, they heard him carrying on a phone conversation, texting multiple times. the gun store saw enough red flags to use their own discretion not to sell them anything. okay?and which they have the right to do, they can do that at their discretion, turn away anybody. there were red flags all over the place. back to the fbi investigation and maybe i put this in julie's lap, why wasn't there enough there at that moment in time when we know about his activities, we know about his travels to saudi arabia. >> you raise an excellent question. i remember when james comey came out and said we couldn't have done anything better at the time and i thought that was a really premature statement to make ahead of the fbi because he didn't know. it was 24 hours after the attack. you don't know what they missed or didn't miss. more information is coming out about the wife. about his email exchanges. about the gun store you just about and the fact the fbi came out and said so prematurely that you know, we looked at there's not much more we could have done. i don't know if that's the case. it may turn out to be but i thought it was a premature statement for them to make and as you point out rightly, there were warning signs as well. there were pieces of evidence

that in retrospect, it's 20/20 but our retrospect could have been. >> i want to talk to you about the family and about what we knew about the dad wanted to run for president, all his soliloquies, just check out youtube. in favor of the town man, he was in the halls of our followed state department not long ago. this guy was out there, he was knownand he just said about the white , how how far can we go? should we be keeping an eye not just on the people get flag who been traveling but also the people around them? >> you also want to know how close were the father and son ? and you really want to know the footprint of the wife and we are not hearing as much about her today and that's disconcerting. what's she doing going and destroying hard drives? if she was my ammo, she would have been the perfect candidate to go by a high-powered rifle.

>> exactly. >> we talk about all the gun control and the need for gun control and i'm sorry, but elizabeth warren wouldn't know a trigger from the muzzle. she has no idea what she's talking about when she talked about rambo style shooting and assault weapons and these baby terms and we get so far off base and the more we talk about things like gun control, the less we talk about the real problem and one of my big problems is, maybe you are right. maybe the fbi is overtaxed. maybe our government can't keep us safe and maybe we have to be more vigilant and get rid of these gun free zones. >> if we are going to do that and we have to get rid of the safety zone for how we talk about each other to because it seems like if you see something say something you have to be careful abouti'm say it . >> we also, there are these zones where the fbi isn't going including any of the radical mosques or the networks funded by radicals where radicalism is created, radical islamic terrorism is created. we do a couple weeks before the attack there wasn't any

mom that went to the orlando mosque and preached killing homosexuals anywhere you can find them so there are radical ideologies weakening the minds of muslims who can get on the internet or in a mosque and we're not surveilling them the way that we should. it goes back to, the fbi, mediated all he could inside the confines of what they are being allowed to do and the reality is, they drop the criminal investigation because it was a criminal investigation but ideology doesn't end once you are done investigating. fbi had shown propensity for radicalization we better keep an eye on him because these guys go to ground. >> let's continue on this. the gun debate is intensifying across the country in the aftermath of the orlando terror attacks. donald trump says he's going to be meeting with the nra about not allowing people on the terrorist watchlist on the no-fly list to buy guns fellow republicans may be open to changing the nation's gun laws. the nra saying it supports delaying the sale of the gun to anyone on a terror watch list. the group in a statement also saying that has always been its position adding quote,

the nra believes that terrorists should not be allowed to purchase or possess firearms.. . at the same time, due process protection should be put in place that allows law-abiding americans who are wrongly put on a watchlist to be removed. meantime, senate democrats led by chris murphy of connecticut and a nearly 15 hour filibuster just passed this morning. after republican leaders reportedly agreed to allow votes on some proposed gun-controlmeasures. kennedy, i want to go to you first. because this meeting with the nra, donald trump. you think donald trump is looking at possibly changing gun laws in this country . >> i think it's actually frightening that you have the two presumptive nominees, one of whom is more than likely going to be president both say that they are for forms of gun control because when you talk about due process versus a constitutional

right, you get on a very simple slope. how do you get on these lists? how do you get off these lists? not everyone of the people in these lists is a terrorist. when you become a terrorist? there are so many discussion to be had but i think otis gun works, that gun store in florida absolutely did something right and that's when for the private sector because when they see something, it's not like they're handing out high-powered rifles in junior high schools. they saw something, someone was suspicious and they said something. >> and they did something. >> what happened at that point is the big question? why three weeks before the attack was not what fell through? we're not anywherenear talking gun-control. the store owner did what he was supposed to do. what failed to mark do we simply not have bodies to go out and follow up with these people ?>> let's get back to this meeting because donald trump is meeting with the nra. what do you expect to take place? i hope the nra reinforces what you said which is what

they been dedicated to for a long time. we got a second and then it was central to who we are as a people. due process is important but we are at work.a delay could be a sensible way to look at the burden of proof needs to be on the government as to why you are able to have your second amendment right as opposed to putting you on a list. >> arbitrarily. >> where does that end? i hope that, i don't think he should have treated that. why is from bringing the conversation to gun control we should keep it on isis. he's meeting with the nra , that's never a bad thing. >> but you were on the no-fly list, people on the no-fly list. they are the ones who should also be precluded from buying guns. how many people have erroneously been on a combat list, innocent americans and they don't even know theywant . >> first of all, this comes as a shock to you both on this issue in the sense that i think due process funds anything else and as we know, a lot of people have erroneously been put on this list. i'm not a huge fan of the second amendment but it is in

our constitution and as a result, you are absolutely right. so many needs to be put on that list and it is up to the government to tell us why there on that list because anyone of us could be put on that list and your denied your constitutional right but i am not a fan of having everybody have guns but nevertheless, the constitution trumps my personal opinion so i agree with you on that and i've never seen anybody on my side of the i'll be able to read that needle and explain to me also but you has the right suspended. >> secondly, there are sensible gun-control measures we can speak that don't infringe on our second amendment rights the same way that i can't walk into a movie theater and start yelling fire despite the fact that i have first amendment rights so the government prevent me from doing that so the problem for me is at which point when you say you have a right to bear arms, what is ours to you? if you take it to its logical conclusion, at which point do you stop and say listen, let's be rational and reasonable about this.

does anybody really need military style weapons ? what is an assault weapon? >> does somebody really need something that they can reload consistently over and over again and wipe out with one done, there was somebody in that club with a gun. it was an off-duty security officer with a gun . >> obviously had a plan of attack on that my club. >> he did. >> every weapon have to be reloaded. >> come on, logically? you don't need weapons that can spray somebody. [overlapping conversation] >> they conflate assault weapons with machine guns. >> we already heard bernie sanders refer to this as an automatic weapon. >> bernie sanders isn't the person i would go to on gun-control measures.

>> he wrote a smart column about the number of bullets he used, the amount of time he had to reload, the length of time it would have taken him to reload. [overlapping conversation] >> you can stop and reload a shotgun as well. >> a shotgun holds five bullets, a it's a little harder to reload and kill as many people. >> what does any of this have to do with the orlando massacre? >> which is why am frustrated with the fact that donald trump is engaging on this. keep it on isis. keep it on isis. >> what does it mean politically for donald trump? does he lose supporters if he engages in any conversation about changing the gun-control laws in this country or does he attract more independence? >> any conversation with the nra would be a good one because they had endorsed him they can on endorsed him they could but you got an ongoing conversation with the nra. that certainly wouldn't hurt anything but the tweet was, i

don't really get it. i don't know where is going but i can tell you this, reports about the nra, they don't know where he stands ongoing control. they don't know where he really stands. he tweeted again he wantsto have a second meeting so there are a lot of questions there. we have to wait and let the cake bake there but the bigger issue is that guns were bought legally in orlando . are they not bought legally in san bernardino? are we seeing this over and over again? right? the root problem all of all this have to do with the terrorists who want to kill us. i don't understand how having this conversation now outside the political opportunity that the left gets to take advantage of now. >> he'sbeen on a terror watch list and prevented from buying those guns, you believe you would have required those guns elsewhere . >> it would not have happened, in general it may not have, i don't know. in the same way that listen, consistently, consistently,

the evil with which we have access to guns in this country needs to the fact that we have more violent gun deaths than any other civilized country. >> chicago was out of his mouth, black on black crimes that involves all sorts of guns. what about the areas of the united states . >> why doesn't he mention that? >> we have something here called the fact that you can cross the border from place to place, from indiana where it's much easier to get a gun. >> we're going to have more later in the hour as conversation continue. a new warning about isis. the cia director admitting efforts to destroy the terror group have not worked so far. why he says airstrikes are not the answer and whether the ministration is doing enough to protect americans and opposition is going against the california judge in the sex assault case against brock turner as members of sanford deming's swim team reportedly say they were pressured by the school not to speak out against the champion swimmer.

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learned that a member of the british parliament has died after being shot and stabbed in an attack earlier today. what you're watching on the left side of your screen is a news conference confirming the jet death of joe cox. the attacker, witnesses shot her and was bringing britain first and then stand and critically wounded the woman you see there, 52-year-old man in connection with the attack has been arrested. just so you know, britain first is a slogan commonly used by activists who support britain leaving the european union and the parliament member had made it known she was against that concept so we don't know what is that part of this but just that those words had been shouted is something the authorities are looking at. she was in surgery this morning, they were watchful over this, prime minister david cameron was tweeting about it, hopeful that she would survive. she has not. >> a chilling new warning about the threat from the islamic state savages. cia director john brennan testified before the senate

intelligence community, he says isis is working to send more operatives to the west and he expects more guerrilla attacks in the coming months. and that coalition airstrikes in iraq and syria have not reduced the greeks groups reach. here he is. >> the groups foreign branches and networks help preserve its capacity for terrorism regardless of events in iraq and syria. in fact, as the pressure mounts on isis, we judge that it will intensify its global terror campaign to maintain its dominance of the global agenda. >> i want to get to the heart of the matter that the last time we heard the president on this didn't sound anything like this. it sounded like we had some sort of way forward that would not be going against an enemy that had not been diminished.remember when he spoke the other day? he had all these places where we were encroaching and they were retreating. the map and bob loblaw and then we hear this.

>> the difference is barack obama talking about battlefield games which are good, we've made some progress on territory but he's keeping it right there in the box and to make some gains on the ground, that's going to school solar fight against radical islam because he thinks isis is self-contained when his delay their has caused the ideology by using the proper term the terminology is important has spread throughout the world and they had their own annex in libya and of course, it's his inability to call it the ideology and his utter delay in defeating isis as given a beating heart from hate, the ability to read and motivate others around the globe so we have not gone anywhere near what is necessary. brennan also talked about the ground troops and airstrikes are not enough. >> we watch that when we come back. >> we need to take away their safe haven because it gives them the opportunity to use these lands to train and to fight but also to gain revenue and their control of large cities like mojo and

raqqa as well as oilfield, it generates revenue not just to keep their fighters on the battlefield but also to try to support some of these terrorist operations . >> how is that going to fly, julie? >> i'd be curious to hear from peter since he knows a lot more about military than i do but is this country prepared to do what it takes to get these guys as brennan said, as he alluded to which is afoot put significant troops on the ground. not just special forces. i don't know that the president can sell it. i don't know the american people want to buy it. >> even after orlando. >> even after orlando with somebody who was born here. >> going there and connecting with people that have that nesting point. >> do we have the capacity as a nation to want to do that. >> it's not do we have the capability, it's does our president have the capability and the answer is no. it's going to require fortitude and leadership and vision to educate the american people about the nature of our and fortify them and it's going to take more than a few pinpricks strikes in a remote area.

he doesn't even need to call in the airborne. without leadership you don't get allies to the table to help provide the leadership necessary. >>something else we talked about, strategy. you have any indication that the president is moving forward? we've heard all the places on the map where were making difference . his speech yesterday, president obama detailed the financial tactic they're taking to trying to defund isis. he touted as a success that they had stopped them from bringing in millions of dollars to fund their activities. do you see that as a major accomplishment? >> they find new ways to fund. they find extortion, taxation of their own people.they found other ways to make things happen that they want to make happen so progress is not bad but it's not holistic and we are not actually utterly destroyed them. they got bunkers and raqqa. we can drop bombs on them but that's not going to be enough. >> kennedy, have we seen a game changer in orlando?

is that what is going to take? i know the left wants to localize it as being homegrown but they got to train somewhere. >> it's not a game changer for the president, it shows how unserious he is about changing the hearts and minds of people who embrace and pervert of religion that knows better than anyone who's ever held the office. and i think you're going to see a vastly different strategy because hillary clinton is a warmonger and donald trump has promised to be very tough on isis so the next administration is going to be a very different tack. i think it will be a long drawn out, postmortem of this president's administration to show in how many ways you can fail. >> this is the problem with hillary clinton, all the intervention with none of the got. i worry that she would battle but nedeal. at least with trump, i feel like he would have the fortitude to eliminate isis. >> donald trump telling gop

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enjoy the go with charmin. >> donald trump slamming gop leaders for not lining up behind him and saying they should be quiet if they don't support him. these comments, amid criticism he stays recently over his comments that a federal judge is biased against him because of his mexican heritage and most recently, speaker paul ryan's review of his proposed temporary ban on muslim immigration. now fromissuing the gop an ultimatum . watch. >> you know, the republicans, honestly folks, our leaders

have to get tougher. because this is too tough to do it alone. but you know what? i think i'm going to be forced to. i think i'm going to be forced to and be quiet. please be quiet. just be quiet. because they have to get tougher. they have to get sharper, they have to get smarter. >> okay. julie is laughing, why? >> i'm laughing because i really love to know what paul ryan is going to do in the privacy of his home. i've feel like you endorsed donaldtrump and then he kind of burns you. he did it to ryan, he did it to the nra which i think was the worst endorsement ever. consistently he burns his allies . >> i don't know how our federal government works but there a another branch of government. you can't tell them to shut up. even if he's president, they're not beholden to him. >> there is is dying to get in on this. >> things are happening. paul ryan has just said it's not my plan to pull trump endorsement.

i don't know if he'll have to keep in denouncing trumps comments and this also, off-camera, but also representative duncan out of california hasjust said that one of the first backers of donald trump in congress , i'm not a surrogate, i'm an endorser. i'm reading it live here. i'm done trying to explain or articulate what trump says. i think trump says what he will do are two different things so you have ryan on the one hand, hunter on the other. >> is it reasonable that donald trump isn't getting the support from the entirety of his party to say if i don't, i'm going to have to go out there myself. >> tt's been his strategy so far as to run against the establishment of the party which worked well for him with 16 other candidates in the primary but he's had

trouble transitioning into general election mode which requires consolidation, started with a mexican judge comment which he has rightly moved past. now it's the muslim band. he doesn't have to talk about a muslim band. he can talk about as he did the other day banning from countries the terrorists have been coming from which is something barack obama did when he saw isis infiltrating so there's other ways talk about it. i think he gets frustrated of all the critics coming out him and lashing out and he's got terrain that in. >> he's absolutely right. he also has to think about not only consolidating but fundraising. he does have to get into a different mode if he wants to win. if he doesn't want to win and he wants just to bernie sanders the republican party and make a big flat, he can keep doing this. it increases his brandand his name awareness . i totally understand that but if his goal is to win the presidency of the united states then unfortunately for him he's going to have to play nice with some of these people what's it going to take to rally the party around him?

>> i can do it more eloquently now. so duncan hunter, one of the first backers of donald trump says you know what? he recently pointed remarks about gop congressional leaders so it's not just what he saying about muslims. it's now direct hits on the gop leadership and it's what julie was saying. these are early endorsers of donald trump and now they're having some issues. he can go it alone but i wonder how fundraising dollars are tied to in some way the idea of unity. not that donald trump become a member of the establishment but repeats within the party. >> he's at a 72 percent disapproval rating. hillary is at 55 which is horrible. he needsto stand out and not win this just by virtue of his own supporters . >> there's a way he can reach out to independents by being the anti-party guy. i don't think he's at that spot yet. but hillary picks up a major

celebrity endorsement. it is none other than oprah winfrey herself. the media mogul calling hillary's nomination a seminal moment for women and saying it'sabout time america. entertainment tonight with the exclusive . >> what do you think about possibly having the first female president. >> i really believe that is going to happen and this is the truth. america, it's about time we made that decision. there is no ceiling. that ceiling just went boom, you know? it says anything is possible. when you can be leader of the free world. >> and oprah as you may remember was a big champion of the president when he was running back in 2008 and kind of snubbed hillary clinton. don't you think it's a little insulting for oprah winfrey who has just been the apple of the cultural i do now tell people once again who to vote for based on ... >> to be fair, she saidi'm

with her. she said she's going to vote for hillary clinton. >> but it's about time we make that decision . >> okay, what was missing from that endorsement was any ringing endorsement of hillary clinton and her experience and her track record and her policies. that seems to be missing from that endorsement. if you're going to endorse somebody for president, shouldn't you tell what exactly it is other than their gender? >> i would love to be able to tell them that in their young lifetimes we elected the first female president but does it have to be by virtue of someone's gender that we vote? >> you know what i would rather tell my two girls? in our lifetime we elected the best female president. that's the question and i think what sandra brings up is such a good point. if her only attribute for the job is her gender, that's not good enough.

and oprah knows this. she knows how to do this. she did this with obama. she knows how to sell it if she wants to sell it so maybe there's more coming from her americans, they want to vote for the best presidents. in our lifetime, that will be a female. there's no doubt that america is prepared and capable and ready for a woman to be commander-in-chief provided it's the right one. we just don't need a criminal who rides on the families of the fallen and thinks she lives by a different series of standards. that's why the left is reduced to saying, we want a woman but i can't really tell you when is that really the only thing she has going for her? >> is my thing with celebrity endorsements. it's so irrelevant, i couldn't care less who "four. i couldn't care less who george clooney thinks we should vote for or david hasselhoff although i love the half but really, the second part of what you said, what i found so interesting was taking a poll, there's a poll out yesterday that shows by a slim margin that people said they don't want to women on the ticket. >> they were talking about hillary and elizabeth warren but it asked whether you are ready to havetwo women on the national ticket.

by a slim margin, they said no . i thought that was very, it was a question. >> maybe because they know the most likely vice presidential candidate is elizabeth warren. >> if possible but i don't know. to me, is there still a bar that i think women have to go through? yes, you see it all the time, consistently and i think it's not knowledge but i think it's not a solution. we had 44 president and has been a woman. i'm not voting for her because she's a woman. i would urge anybody to do it but there is still inherent sexism and bias in the system. >> coincidentally, i'm not voting for her. ex full steam ahead with that. even after orlando, remarks from the senior advisor raising new questions about whether any security checks are being missed and after this show, you know what's

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accelerating the process of resettling 10,000 syrian refugees inside the united states by october. even in the wake of the deadly orlando terrorist attack and harsh criticism from donald trump that president obama is not taking the terrorist threat seriously. in a speech earlier this week commemorating refugee day, national security adviser admiral payne said this. weare speeding up the admissions process without skipping any security steps so far we've admitted about 3500 syrian refugees . more in the last five weeks than in the past seven months and mister payne adding, this in addition to tens of thousands of refugees added

every year those are not necessarily coming from a place where we know the terrorists are nesting with their stronghold in raqqa >> hillary quickly wants to release increase that sixfold. she said even more syrian refugees. this is an issue that donald trump should beat the drum on every single day because he is right that in a time of war, we should not be admitting people from countries where they've made it. cia director brennan said it directly, it's their stated idea to identify training radicals. why are we allowing this process to continue when we clearly do not have a handle. >> let's talk about the process a little bit because not want to go it used to take three years. >> it's still, the average is 18 to 24 months. >> the state department said it depends on where they come from and their circumstances but the average time is 18 to 24 months area they are accelerating that three full. julie, they'd admitted they

can't properly that these people and i know you're going to jump in and tell me . >> i'm not going to say that but let's distinguish between the refugee program which people are concerned about and what happened in orlando. that was an american citizen born here. his father came here when we were allies if you remember with the mujahedin in the 80s so let's be clear about the fact that he is not, what happened here in orlando has nothing to do with the refugees. >> it does because it's the first generation doesn't assimilate and demand recommendation the second, unfortunately the first generation has not assimilated and therefore you have the second-generation somali muslims, most of them want to go fight with isis. minnesota, because they are drawn to the proper propaganda and not properly routed here in the us. >> you agree with donald trump that we should ban all muslims. >> know, i think we should look at states from which the

terrorists have come from and make a temporary band, why not? >> i want to step in because i want to help you dig me backinto history. jimmy carter, the iran hostage situation. how did we handle iranians coming into this country? >> i'm glad you asked me that because i have been , the un point person on those administrations. from the1970s. we , i have so many persian friends who came over to this country from that era and guess what they've done? they assimilated. they got in college degrees andstarted businesses, their tv producers . they are by and large a phenomenally inspirational group of people and i think that if you have people who want to come over here and they want to embrace the american dream we should allow that. my mind came over on a boat, she came over during a time when immigration from eastern europe was not particularly popular but you know what? they still did it and all the kids went through college and they all have fabulous careers and there's a way of doing it and i think when we

stretch a broad brush, we miss the point because as you are concerned about refugees, i'm concerned about the millennial weirdos who decide that now all of a sudden their fanatical muslims and they go out and get girlfriends and have a girlfriend by guns and lord only knows where they are lying in wait in what small-town and what they're going through. >> those are two different attacks. how do we break the grip is a big question. >> new outrage in the stanford rape case as if there wasn't enough outrage. allegations the university silenced members of its own female swim team who wanted to give the judge and earphone about what they called brock turner's creepy behavior. what this says about universities wanting to cover for star athletes. stay put. i'm terrible at golf.

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testifying about the threats facing the united states around the world and here at home. in the wake of the orlando terrorist attacks left the dead. catherine harris will have a live report on that and president obama and vice president biden are arriving this hour in orlando. they'll be offering their condolences to the families of those killed as well as those who survive sunday's attack at anightclub in florida. where accepting a statement , we will have it for you ahead, happening now. >> opposition mounting against the california judge who handed down a short jail term for stanford rapist and champion swimmer brock turner. this exploded a dozen jurors have reportedly objected to serving in the judge aaron persky's courtroom and in a rare move, his honor recently blocked by prosecutors from presiding over similar sexual assault cases.all this as we are learning that members

of the stanford women's swim team wanted to write the judge about what they saw as turner's creepy behavior but will reportedly pressured by school officials not to speak out. denies any cover-up, saying the students were free to speak for themselves. you buy that? >> i don't know but i would say this. if you were free to speak for themselves and shame on stanford and's shame on stanford for all sorts of issues. the bottom line is that this guy was 100 percent given a break by this judge. the judge gave him a break because not enough women came out of their experiences are able to write a letter, then that's on stanford so i hope it's not true. i hope stanford is a better school than that and the administration is a better place than that but it's tragic if that is the case. >> and it's not stopping anytime soon. you have jurors who now refusedto sit in his courtroom . you have people in santa clara county who now are withholding cases from him, similar sexual assault cases. where does this and for the judge? >> treasure can be very strong so something like that

they not want to tolerate that environment for a long time. effectively the people rising up and saying we won't tolerate this kind of double standard or injustice. i sure hope those girls were pressured. i don't know why he wouldn't allow, especially in the environment we are in right now , i don't know if it's a legal process, i don't know enough about how information gets to a judge. maybe was administratively they were encouraged not to because that's how it works but why wouldn't you want more information instead of less? this is now a criminal case. you're not talking about school adjudication, you're talking about young women seen a pattern for a while including an elite swimmerwho said she didn't even want to be at a party with brock hunter because she was afraid of drinking with him . >> it looks like there's a bit of an overreaction to make this sweeping judgment that this was a case of a university protecting their star swimmer. we don't know that. the university, we have to go off what they say and let them speak freely.

there's a lot of unknowns still here. president barack obama scheduled to meet with families and loved ones of those who were killed and injured in the massacre at the postma club in orlando. you see that his plane obviously landed, he's come down the stairs now. so is meeting with the dignitaries, the local officials been sent to the tarmac to greet him. what we know about his schedule is that within the next hour he will meet with those families. we know in the last couple of days he talked about some of the ways that he would like to see response change, a big conversation being had on capitol hill really tipped off by the president's quick turn to gun control legislation after this tragedy. but now he's there in orlando to meet with these families. we will cover his meetings there. the governor there obviously as i said, digging terry's come out to meet him and sandra, you know what's interesting about all this? we know some of the issues

have already begun. this is just been a horrific week and so much of the conversation has gotten away from if you will or the leadership of our country , away from the victims and the president started with it with gun control and now we see the focus put back on the human element in all of this and the heart break we all suffered as americans on sunday. >> and everybody suffered in the state of loretta and the president is suffering from this. it's a horrible tragedy that happened there and remember, rick scott the governor, he's meeting with him as well. been critical of the president in not calling him in the days that followed this area and we will continue to cover this life. more "outnumbered". >> that work throughout your body. trubiotics from one a day.

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