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your floral clipboard . >> this is a lovely gift. i'd like to spice things up. i could have gone with a black clipboard but i said the world needs more flowers. >> you are a man. >> i am. >> there's a lot to get to, let's get started with donald trump letting loose on hillary clinton a few moments ago in what may be his harshest attack on her yet. the day after hillary blasted trump on the economy, the republican firing right back, questioning clinton's policies, her judgment and her temperament on a range of issues from benghazi to her private emails to the million hillary and bill clinton have raked in for their family charity . >> hillary clinton and as you know,, most people know, she's a world-class liar. just look at her pathetic email service thing. hillary clinton has perfected the politics of personal profit and even death. she ran the state department like her own personal hedge fund to win favors for

oppressive regimes and many others and really many, many others in exchange for cash. that will never, ever change including if he ever became president, god help us. no secretary of state has been more wrong, more often and in more places than hillary clinton. [applause] her decisions spread death, destruction and terrorism everywhere she touched. among the victims of our late ambassador, kristi. what she did with him was absolutely horrible. he was left helpless to die as hillary clinton soundly slept in her bed, that's right. when the phone rang as for the commercial at 3:00in the morning, hillary clinton was sleeping . maybe her motivation lies among the more than 1000 or

in donations hillary failed to disclose while at the state department. hillary clinton may be the most corrupt person ever to seek the presidency of the united states. >> grade, he did not hold back in this speech. >> that was not a speech, that was an asteroid directed at planet hillary to blow her up. i made a list of the things he blamed her for. he blamed her for being bringing in people who enslave and kill, he blamed her for isis, he blamed her for ben ghazi, the entire middle east. the only thing he left out was climate change, he could have blamed her for that but he didn't. the best thing about it was when he went after her for temperament because that's like me going after dana perino for being short. he mirrored her insults toward him. it was like same to you but more of it which is what you used to say as a kid. it was very strong speech.

the strongest part about it was the start where he said saying america first is a very important thing after seven or eight years of being told we should retreat from the stage and him coming out there and being so pro-american, saying the reason i'm running for president, the reason why on here is for america. i'm not with her, i'm with you. that is an amazingly strong message and i thought it was a very strong, he made a strong case and hillary gives him so much material. he just had a litany of and you're going, he's right. she really is a mess. >> this was a point by point attack on her track record as future estate. >> i didn't think it was a blistering attack because the blistering attacks he made against her as instructed and

those are the personal ones from the 90s where he brings and builds instability and this speech wasn't about that. when he talked about bill he tied his speech fundraising to hillary's and how they've made $150 million since 2001 . they do it by speaking to big banks and special interests area they were released the transcripts and that part of addition to coupling it with the middle east regimes who were so horrible to women and gays. a lot of democrats have to listen to that and say, did she really take $25 million from saudi arabia where homosexuality is punishable by death? raising those questions alone were very effective. >> both of you making the case for the speech, how did it come across? >> it was good.i love you went after her foreign policy record and focused on that, talk about libya, even syrian refugees and what the impact of her policy is. that's the thing we're all talking about right now with the impact of bringing those people over. this is where he's strong, when he focuses on her actual policy weaknesses. my question is much of it will resonate? have people made up their mind about hillary clinton already and decided either they love her or don't trust her .

what will the impact of this fee but if he's going to be successful, i think leave the bills scandal in the past and focus on, this woman was secretary of state. she's trying to sell you as someone who can keep us safe. look at her record and figure it out. >> he pointed his message at bernie sanders supporters as well, targeting them by saying the system is corrupt, i'm here for you. did that work? >> i think that didn't work. were still trying to figure out who the never clinton people are among the bernie supporters so maybe ... >> it's bill. another reason entirely. >> we are seeing this answer back between the two of them now. she spoke yesterday and now you've got an answer back. remember when she was trying to basically say, to paraphrase, this guys crazy. she was trying to marginalize him. this answer back was not on that personal level. and it got personal when he said she wants you to be with

her, i want to be with you. that really spoke to the likability about her. we went personal without getting nasty but what's critical for him is he actually took the high road where she said she was going to be driving on and we all know there's not a lot of people on there. so now he's on it , can she bring it next? >> also, he talked about some of the failures in the middle east and directly correlated with her time as secretary of state, he said iran was choked, egypt was friendly, syria was under control, there was no isis and it goes to show how powerful a secretary of state can be and at the end he said he's going to have a complete ethics reform of the state department though the secretary of state can't get out of control. >> it was interesting the visual that he paints it off at the very top or near the top of the helicopter landing area that he said, you know, certain news anchors his entire career he she told a similar type of story. >> right, about sniper fire. >> that was a fascinating

visual. >> you got to be careful as well because he tends to stretch the truth as well and that's going to come back. they're going to be fact checking everything he says and it's going to go back and forth. i would also question his thing about sanders voters. if you like sanders, would you really vote for trump? that speaks to a complete lack of ideological connection toward anybody. >> according to that bloomberg poll, 48 percent of sanders voters are not going to vote for hillary clinton, that is a huge number of independent voters. >> as we get closer to the democratic convention, hillary clinton narrowing her choices for a running mate. who's on the shortlist and what type of running mate she needs. it's now been been more than 200 days since lyndon held a formal press conference. what is up with that? and after the show, catch more from the couch. join our live chat by clicking the overtime

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we are. with democratic national convention a month away, speculation growing over who hillary clinton will tend to be her running mate. sources telling us there are five candidates on the shortlist. that is not a short joke, get over it. including three who are reportedly already being petted, to elizabeth warren, tim kane and housing and urban development secretary julianne castro. hillary has said her top priority is choosing someone who's fully prepared for the job but there are also reports she is focusing on picking a partner with whom she has chemistry and someone who could interject the party, you are laughing. >> that's elizabeth warren or her husband bill. >> they've always had sort of a foxy relationship. and elizabeth warren, basically accused hillary clinton not being in bed with wall street and hillary

clinton stands for pretty much everything elizabeth warren stands against so i don't think she needs more help reaching out to female voters, right? does she need to work out to the white working class man? wouldn't be more strategy for her to pick one westmark. >> the jury is still out on whether or not hillary clinton would like to share the first, first. >> you do not do that. this is all about her. you're not going to bring in another woman and have to share that. she's looking for chemistry, very johnson. he's got the chemistry, usually in his closet under a big life, growing every day. >> other things i don't know about? >> he said if he got to the white house he would not smoke marijuana. >> exactly.if she picks liz warren, that pair will be to the left of raul and fidel castro. itwill be to the left , they have to dig out che guevara

marks to find anyone more left than those two. she's got big boringguy, king . >> during the commercial, citizen kane is one of the names i'm going to read next. >> is boring. hillary is boring. she needs someone with human tendencies that comes off like a person and not a robot. i disagree to an extent. these left-wing voters can't stand her, they cannot stand her. i keep saying it, she doesn't want to pick bernie, he will outside her. people will screen flipped the ticket, i get it. but she going to get those left-wingers that will stay home. on national security, a lot of independent consider her hawkish and right wing.

she's not viewed as a liberal on these heavy national security issues and on the economy in many parts because she had these close associations with wall street and the banks. he's not viewed by independents at this far left on it. what's missing are those far left viewpoints, the bernie sanders people. liz warren would probably be a better fit except i agree with greg that two women on the same ticket would be a bit much julian castro, one of when brothers in politics they are both from texas. i'm curious to know where you see the economy being something that any of these people can bring to the table or do you think her husband bill clinton still gets to run the economy no matter who she picks. >> she hasn't said she's going to have her russman run the economy. she saysshe's putting him in charge of the economy. in so many words, what do they all mean?>> she's firing the interns . >> close associates, greg. >> they do get paid. >> you have to look at the numbers which i know you guys do and on a daily basis. where is she lacking the most? who is she laughing so far? wall street thing is going to continue to hurt her. donald trump is going to continue to pound on her. where are the transcripts from those pages? hundreds of thousands of

dollars that she and her husband running from those ages, she's not going to be able to get that.>> one of the things that i have wondered about, what does she need between now and november and after november and is there oneperson who can fill the billquestion mark . >> yes there is, his name is john casey . but then wouldn't that be something on the ticket, i don't think he's going to get. it's going to be a campaign because he's solid, you can work both on the hill for her, he knows the inner workings, he's not going to outshine her. i don't think it's someone who necessarily have to be human but if you have someone like corey booker and can electrify on the stump, it diminishes her.>> jim webb westmark. >> well, we're still talking about her, she's on the verge of accepting her party's nomination but it's more than 200 days since hillary clinton has held a formal news conference. quentin of course has done sitdown interviews, she'll tell you she does hundreds of those. earlier this month she took quick questions from her traveling press corps.

but the last time clinton held a formal question and answer session with reporters was way back in early december last year before a single vote was cast and a single primary or caucus. your thoughts, greg gutfeld. >> this is brilliant on her part because the less you see of her, the more you like her. it's a classic, if you want to make a great horror movie and i prefer to call jobs over movie, you don't see the star to much. this is a horror show, the less you see of her, the bigger impact she has. >> it's the buildup and you're absolutely right. the worst kings she can do is go out unprepared because the press is so resentful, they're so angry at her right now. >> you think they are? >> yes, for her lack of attention to the pool and the press in general. she's just as bad on the press as people claim donald trump is. she's talked about shutting

down the internet, she's not good on free speech and if you get a few follow-up questions that are not preplanned, you remember that did i white with a cloth she has a couple of those moments . >> you said the media are angry but why are they pulling those good follow-up questions about the issues you just listed? they're getting these 300 sitdown. jedediah yesterday she said we had the buildup that everybody's talking about. >> you got the buildup and she was going to have this bigspeech in front of the american flag . she blew through her line, the applause places were blown through. that is an opportunity. it's hard to grab that back. now you got to come behind him. >> i think she has a heightened sense of self-awareness now that she's terrible at this. he's realized look, the more i put myself out there, every time he does get tossed a difficult question and be seen it a few times, i can

count them on one hand but she fails miserably when she's asked about transparency, email scandal, she fails repeatedly to answer these questions in a way that makes people feel better about her after she gives them an answer. if you look at: before and after, numbers go up and she's looking at that and realizing it but right now she's in a position where she says right now i have nothing to gain by making myself more available to people who are going to challenge me because i don't handle it that well. kudos to her for recognizing that and having form of self-awareness. it's smart for her to stay out of the spotlight. >> it's not going to help her, it's going to help her, why do it westmark but why should she do it when she gets paid to do sitdown interviews with ellen the generous where she knows exactly what they're going to discuss, the questions asked and knows that ellen is in her camp. that's an amazing audience she gets to reach out to. >> it never happens with top, right? >> that allows her to work on that category of likability that she really doesn't get a chance to work on otherwise. i don't think this speech helped her at all yesterday. >> the report called her on likability.

i think you're either likable or not. look at somebody like bill clinton. he said heinous things that ordinarily people, their skin would be crawling, they would be sick but their life, i just like him. he has that factor. she doesn't have it and she's smart enough to say i don't have it. i can go out there and talk about these scandals and make myself look better so let me shut up. let me be smart. >> let's move on. as new details come in on the orlando terror attack, our attorney general is saying the most effective response to terror islam and the white house press secretary says that her radical islamic extremism is just a republican talking point. a lot to hash out there. donald trump attends a fundraiser amid growing concerns about his small also far, also not a date on you greg. and just yesterday he sent his very first fundraising email. he says he's got nothing to worry about.

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"outnumbered", and thank you for making us a part of your day. on the orlando terror attacks, we are now learning the gunmen reportedly visited paul's nightclub earlier in the night but left before returning to carry out his attack in the early hours of sunday morning. one report saying he paid the entry fee, got a wristband and went inside, possibly to check out club security. all this has attorney general loretta lynch visited orlando whereshe had this to say >> we stand with you , saying that the good in this world far outweighs the evil, that our common humanity transcends our differences and that are most effective response toterror and to hatred is compassion , unity

and love. >> mealtime, white house press secretary josh earnest fleming republicans were using the term radical islamic extremism, saying it's just a talking point, not a counterterrorism strategy. he expanded on those comments at his press briefing. >> we haven't heard a phrase from republicans, we've just seen republicans tried to use the word radical islamic extremism to fool people into thinking they're tough on terrorism when the truth is, they don't even have the courage to vote against the nra and prevent those same suspected terrorists being able to buy a gun in the united states. it's shameful and it's cowardice. >> what inflation but lieutenant colonel alan west says the kernel has it all wrong. >> josh earnest is saying that basically you would have turned the attack on pearl harbor just an attack by airplanes. you have to understand the ideology of your enemy in order to strategically undermine their messaging and

undermine that ideology while you understand their goals and objectives . >> greg, let's start with attorney general loretta lynch. i thought it was a wonderful thing that she reached out to the gay community, not only in orlando florida but saying we are with you, we stand united. that's a wonderfulmessage but to go on and say you defeat terror with love. isn't that just incredibly nacve ? and an overly emotional response? xq how do the life out of them? i agree. love and compassion is one response but it is not the best response. the best response is love and compassion combined with moral aggression. meeting out justice immediately, fighting the people who did this and destroying their lives. when you look at vigils and you look at the candles and everything, i understand that response. people expressing their grief and their sorrow but if you don't have the other side of that coin which is just

unleashing hell on those who deserve it, then you're kind of like, that stuff is almost useless because it doesn't advance the war which we have to, it is a war. it's a war against islam is a . that's why words matter. you have to say what it is that's absolutely right and when josh earnest says this is just a republican talking point and republicans don't have a strong response. >> that's clearly not what we heard from military leaders including alan west and jack keane on this house couch and multiple military leaders on this channelsaying how important it is to name this enemy going back to president obama's speech in the days that followed the attack. that passion , arguably angry speech that he gave, do you remember he said he has not had one military advisor tell him that it was important to call it these words? then we won't say it again, radical islamist terrorism. with whom is he speaking because we ask people all the time saying identify how important it is. >> i'd like to know with whom he's lessening the cause

clearly, they're saying it. i just don't know who he listens to. were talking about radical islamis because you just said this, i was recently in minnesota as you know and i met with muslim community , somali americans there who homeland security has said one in four who want to join isis are coming in from various areas in that state. to a person they said no, love is definitely part of the equation. education opportunity, also part of the equation. also part of the equation is getting into that community, law enforcement, everybody working together to find those who are radicalized among us. they use the terminology themselves so is that togetherness, she can talk about love. that's great. love heals a lot. strategy also works. community relationships also work.

i don't know what she was getting at she was specifically talking about terror and it's like, no. love can help rebuild the community but what about other communities who are terrified and terrorized and you got a president who won't talk about terrorism because it points to the failure of his administration. >> that's true. this advice is advice that you give to kind, same people. love conquers all. we understand that, you say that anyone else you get but we don't have a common humanity with terrorists. we don't have a common humanity who seeks to kill people and destroy and commit hate crimes so this idea, there are evil twisted people in this world and the reality is that for some of those people, no amount of love is going to fix them because they came to destroy so combined a positive message but combined with reality because unless you're going to face the truth, you're not going to be able to combat

any of this. >> whitney said, i went down, moral aggression. we will turn it back to presidential politics and the growing concern among republicans over donald trump's lack of campaign cash. the nominee attending a fundraiser on wall street this morning after it was revealed he started june with just over $1 million on hand compared to hillary clinton's $42 million. mister trump also sending supporters of fundraising plea where he vowed to match up to $2 million in donations. it reads in part, this is the first fundraising email i have ever sent on behalf of my campaign. that's right, the first one. in tax and underlined you'll note, it goes on to say i am going to make it the most successful introductory fundraising email in modern politicalhistory. all this is donald trump says he's willing to bankroll his own campaign if necessary , pointing out he's been outbid before. >> as far as i'm concerned, i'd be happy to continue to self fund. >> are you going to continue to self fund? i made. she's going to spend $1.2 billion on the election and i'm trying to say, remember this. i spent $15 million and i on.

other people that were running against me spent many times that amount and they lost. >> will you send another 50 million in the general? >> i might. >> some republicans fear a lack of fundraising might have a devastating impact on down ballot candidates who rely on the presidential nominee to fund a national field organization for the fall elections. i spoke with corey lewandowski, his former campaign manager yesterday and he said the same thing. he backed that up and said it doesn't matter, cassie has on hand, he will always put his own funds into the race. you buy that? >> i'm not sure. he's so horrible is trying to build the trump tower in middle earth. it might put him in a desperate place where he's going to have to start asking for money and there will be times when he will have to start walking back a lot of the things he said to try and make donors feel more comfortable around him but the question has always been willing to bankroll himself

in the hundreds of millions and that's where mark cuban comes in and says he can't do that because it had happened. >> evincing that all along kennedy but that this email came out looking for these small donations between the dollar and $1000 , bernie sanders style fundraising campaign and everybody said if he's more worried about this than he's letting on. >> he only had $1.3 million in the back and mark cuban was if you're worth $10 million, writing a $2 million check is a drop in the bucket. but he's looking at bernie sanders who didn't have this gigantic campaign infrastructure a year and a half ago and was able to raise small donations, to great effect with these passionate populist supporters. trump is certainly behind the wall. it's so late in the game and if he's waiting till the last minute to refill the campaign silo, i think that does show a lot of problematic

structural fundraising. >> harris was sayingyesterday this would be fine if it was early june . that's the point i was going to make with bernie sanders. he did what small businesses do. remember when he raised that $45 million in that one on raising cycle months ago? he took that and reinvested it and hired staff and was on an arc to hire more people at one point and hillary clinton did in april. donald trump didn't do that. so now that his coffers are reportedly down to 1.3 million, the question is how can he then hire a bunch of people? he can strategically hire but he's going to need more cash on hand. he's got a lot of people that can raise a lot of money. >> he's a property can sell. >> he's got ed rollins working with him, he can get there. >> bernie sanders seems like the kindof guy who only had like $45 in his wallet. trump may be a little hard to

inspire people to get to him you mentioned rollins, i was with him yesterday morning . he's a little worried. it's my job as a journalist, he should be worried. he needs to stop equating the primary with the general. it's a whole other bag of tricks. you can't even compare the two. i think they are worried and i think this is a time when you're going to see what his supporters are made up because you see a lot of people out there chanting trump but put your money where your mouth is. let's see what people are willing to put forward and if these small donations come in, he needs cash and it either needs to come from him or people but you can't win an election like this. >> one thing i think is interesting and possibly very smart is the matching program becauseit gives people ownership and then they get the idea that he's pitching it as well . and you don't have what he said all along, i don't want people giving me a big chunk because they're going to want something in return area .

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libya to as sis,. >> we have a strategy to continue to support that right at at this point in time? >> i'm at not aware of any overall grand strategy at this point. harris: general's remarks came same day, that government loyalist as well as explosion at ammo depot. half the dead were militia dead, loyal to the libyan government. kennedy, we look at this, with when you hear words there is no overall strategy. i grew up military to understand. understand. . >> i would understand that. that is actually a strategy. but the president, he is not, straddling two worlds. capable of committing to one or the other. i have always made the case that

that is much more dangerous, it is much more deadly, especially for the ground troops that you don't really have committed over there. harris: only thing you get on the fence is the vie, greg. >> it can be painful after a while. i don't sit on fences. there is no strategy. can i name drop? i was out with rob o'neill over the weekend. he talked about what must be done. harris: killed bin laden. >> he killed bin laden. he knows what is going on. you have to disprove the entire philosophy of isis going to raqqa and just destroying them. that is their goal to create islamic state. you have got to humiliate them. i know what that means. that means ground troops. when they call you chicken hawk. look, our troops, you don't have to apologize to them youthey didn't enlist for food or health insurance. they believe in something. they're willing to bo. if you not fight against isis what will you fight against?

you can't fight villain in modern age worse than isis. we are ready to take it to them, we, the military. harris: i want to show you something before we go on, vicinity of europe to all of this is playing out. big question, what about our allies. they are directly in reach as we've seen in belgium and paris. watch this. >> the buildup of isil and other related al qaeda type groups present a threat to european allies. >> eventually they could, yes. harris: yeah. sandra: that is pretty obvious. harris: this is why we want to show this to you. go ahead and, sandra. cia director john brennan estimated 5 to 8,000 fighters in libya, from 2,000, just in february. the rate we're seeing numbers of isis fighters is growing is astonishing. amazing then, u.s. military deployed a number of u.s.

special-ops there in the last few months. the fight is obviously very unusual. harris: you heard it is metastasizing like a cancer. the reason i popped the map up, show you how strategic it is for the enemy to be in libya. if you're in italy, you're looking over saying you're getting bigger. >> treich in st. tropez, we're in deep yogurt. >> talking about our allies, yeah, american leadership inspires other people. that is how it works historically, when you have a strong america. you have a. looking at america don't have strategy. no confidence in what we're doing. i don't know how we're not humiliated. don't have to tell us details of the strategy. we don't want them to. if they tell us everything, outlining that to the world. there is great point. exactly what you do. we know what we're doing. strategy, to inspire confidence

not only in us, but allies. to join together to fight this thing. >> despise the administration. whether dunford or, you can see in their eyes. harris: that is what i am getting to, kennedy. overarching strategy, get same song sheet. american people don't know what to do with that? who is in charge? we'll move on. we heard how donald trump gets a lot of free media attention, more than hillary clinton. but a new analysis finds much of the attention he gets from the mainstream media is negative. while they largely ignore hillary clinton scandals. wait until you see the evidence of this, actual numbers. stay close.

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sandra: more "outnumbered," jon scott, don't have jon scott. >> yes you do. >> yes. sandra: i misunderstood. hi, jon, what do you have coming up. >> because i'm not man in middle i get my time. who is throwing some shade. >> i could never be jon scott. >> in our next hour, new reaction to blistering attack by donald trump on hillary clinton. in wide-ranging speech, mr. trump painted her as corrupt and unfit for the white house.

repeatedly called her a liar. we're awaiting response from clinton later this hour. fox news has learned clinton i.t. specialist bryan pagliano, finished deposition in testimony related to the clinton email controversy. reportedly invoked the fifth 125 times. we'll talk about it to greg jarrett for all the legal implications. we'll discuss political fallout. unprecedented event unfolding on capitol hill. democratic congressional members stage a sit-in on the house floor. they're demanding a vote on gun legislation in the house. all ahead, "happening now." sandra: nothing but love from "outnumbered." harris: we love you jon scott. sandra: thank you, sir. >> the i.t. geyer rue who set up hillary clinton's private email server is pleading the fifth more than 125 times at his deposition at a record lawsuit today. >> i believe watch official asked bryan pagliano all of

their questions and each time he read same crafted statement from index card. as watchdog report finds that the former secretary state email scandal the one controversy covered most by abc, cbs and nbc right now. despite that donald trump's controversies are getting far more airtime. media research center looked at 1,000 presidential stories covered by networks from january 1st, through june 7th. controversies with trump got four times coverage than clinton scandals. this shows the presumptive republican nominee getting 432 minutes of coverage compared to clinton's 105. end of clinton scandal coverage, 47 minutes of that was about her emails. the rest had to do with her husband's past adultery. gregory, you're shocked by this media bias. first time we ever seen this in history of media. your comments please? >> i have to say i don't see an issue here. trump creates more product.

when he goes out there and says something, generally explosive and everybody including this network covers it. he creates more noise. he is guy that belly flops into the public pool while hillary clinton sits off on the side under a tree. >> must look great in a bikini. >> tell me about it. also the adultery, got more coverage right, trump brought that up as well. part of the noise that was being created. remember email, that story was broken, i believe by "the new york times." harris: you're right about that. >> kennedy, do you think people don't talk about the clinton stuff in part because it is boring but they get the sense people don't care and made up their minds about her, doesn't feel like news, doesn't feel fresh and new? >> actually part of the case he makes for not having massive fund-raising outreach he gets this easterned media, so much media talking about him, eastern though it can be negative, it certainly has worked to his advantage throughout the primary

season. yet we will see a shift, but also, a lot of the stories about her have been covered for decades now. harris: right. >> on top of that, i would say a majority of people especially in broadcast news are a bunch of card-carrying red communist liberals. >> i agree. harris: she knows there are many exceptions. >> jaded leftists. sandra: harris: i would ask the question whether or not this type of negative coverage speaking issue of dive in polling for both of these candidates and their negatives. i wonder how much farther down if she can bo much farther down in the polling for disapproval and likability and hillary clinton in that sense, how much farther down would she be if they actually covered this stuff. they are both kind of down there. i think negative drum beat feeds that, with hers being relatively silenced, helping her to some degree. >> one hand, she is happy a lost stories don't get coverage. on other hand i feel like

looking at it, i'm just not that interesting to people. people don't want to talk about me. do you think she looks at that, said, is there no such thing as bad news when someone is out there. trump said a lot of things people say this is nuts. it hasn't hurt him. this is out there all the time. sandra: what is important to point out all the time. american people and voters are not demanding more information about these subjects why would the media cover that? american media gotten bored with the subject. there is no there, there, with the email scandal is also result of why we don't see the media coughing that as much. >> trump is more interesting. that is what it is. >> so is a shine any new toy. >> shiny new toy. the toy the kids got bored with and put under the bed. >> she is the squeak ball, when you squeak it no longer makes noise. >> i hate that. got 12 at home. can't let go of them. harris: you started to bryan pagliano. to drop the news.

catherine herridge, our correspondent on story. he wrapped up. he was in the deposition, i.t. specialist for hillary clinton. took the fifth 125 times. >> more "outnumbered" coming up. >> a lot of fifths. he is. he is. but i'd like to keep being terrible at golf for as long as i can. new patented ensure enlive has hmb plus 20 grams of protein to help rebuild muscle. for the strength and energy to do what you love. new ensure enlive. always be you.

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