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"hannity" and we're going to highlight the clinton scandals the rest of the media ignores. tomorrow night, right here, 10:00 eastern. thank you for being with us. we'll see you back here tomorrow night. bill o'reilly is up next. good night. ♪ ♪ hi, i'm eric bolling in for bill o'reilly. thanks for watching this o'reilly factor special, election 2016. let's get right to our top story. attack politics between donald trump and hillary clinton rapidly intensifying. this week the two have been unleashing a barrage of bruising attacks against each other. >> hillary clinton and, as you know, she, most people know, she is a world class liar. >> every day we see how reckless and careless trump is. >> hillary clinton has perfected the politics of personal profit and even
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theft. she ran the state department like her own personal hedge fund. >> he has written a lot of books about business. they all seem to end at chapter 11. >> she gets rich, making you poor. >> he made a fortune filing bankruptcies and scifing his creditors. >> hillary clinton may be the most corrupt person ever to seek the presidency of the united states. >> the clinton foundation helps poor people around the world get access to life-saving aids medicine. donald trump uses poor people around the world to produce his line of suits and ties. >> well, nasty talk to be sure. what impact will this strategy from both sides have with voters. joining us now with reaction from fism boris. and staff on kerry presidential campaigns. author of the best made
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president book. mark, start with you. man, they are really going at it. who is winning this? >> obviously i think hillary clinton is winning it. because when you rook at who each has on their side hillary clinton has all the fact checkers on her side. even when trump went after her yesterday in a speech about her foreign policy record. nbc news, cnn, politifact, all these. >> all these fact checkers. >> the media was fact checking and they should this is not uncommon in american political culture. we have this uninhibited robust wide open culture. the thing that donald trump is a master of is personal insult. we saw that in the republican primary she took down each of his owe pony innocent one after another by calling names using school yard childish tactics. the thing that hillary clinton is getting good at is substantive attacks. >> substantive? you are taking a shot at donald trump's business
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record. >> yep. >> meanwhile the guy is worth billions of dollars. like him, hate him, you can't deny he has money. >> she has given two speeches now on foreign policy and the economy not proposing any policies. just going after donald trump. let's not talk about substance. what we need to talk about is hillary clinton's record of failure. starting over 30 years ago, rose law firm, white water. stuff about vince foster. >> talk about white house. >> and then her failures as a senator let me finish. >> conspiracy theorist. >> she has the worst record. go to syria, libya. china. mark, i'm giving you facts. these are facts. you are just interrupting me. >> whoa. >> it's a war of words. boris, i asked marks first, let me ask you, who is winning the war of words and why? >> donald trump is winning
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because, again, is he going record of hillary clinton. what i was trying to say and mark interrupted me. look at the 300 billion-dollar deficit with china. when hillary clinton said she want to do normalize relations with china. look at isis, egypt, libya and benghazi. russia, hillary clinton wanted to normalize relations. she failed they reset. she somehow ridicules him. hillary clinton has been a failure at everything she's has ever done we need someone who actually get things done and that's donald trump. >> let's do this. so the old saying you don't want to fight with the pig because you get dirty and they like it. hillary is basically taking the bait that donald trump has given her and brought the rhetoric down to a street fight. >> on some level, yeah. mark twain put it another way he said never fight with an idiot or fools because they will drag you down with their level and win with experience. that's kind of what donald trump for better or worse setting on some level the
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tone of this campaign. rattled off a laundry list of conspiracy theories and republican talking points we can talk about trump ice and trump air, trump water. >> cost america 700,000 jobs? >> cost a lot of people a lot of jobs. a lot of people in new jersey went bankrupt. a lot of people in new jersey when donald trump. >> avoiding people. enriches himself. >> he says i love playing with debt. we have $20 trillion in debt. we both agree that's a problem. >> most of that debt thank you to the clintons. >> the clinton name is practically synonymous with prosperity in this country. >> >> prosper themselves. >> we all remember the 90's. >> hillary clinton said we were broke when we left the white house. within a couple short years they are worth several
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hundred million dollars how did they become so prosperous. >> they had speaking fees. >> group like columbians who want to do have a trade agreement with colombia. >> let's defer to somebody who is authoritative. moody put out a report -- let me just say moody put out a report if donald trump's policies were enacted 3.5 million americans would lose their jobs. >> we already know what happened when clintons were in power. >> this is a con man, a salesman. is he good at putting his name on businesses. >> hillary clinton had a secretary of state. name one real success hillary clinton as secretary of state. just one. >> our entire foreign policy has been stabilized and american is seeing more positive. >> in the middle east. >> boris, i'm answering your question. american is seen more positively among our allies than it was when george w. bush was president. that was a lot due to barack obama's credited. >> are we better off in the middle east? we are not.
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china or russia. >> can i beg to differ with that assessment? i think middle east is a disaster right now, far worse than it was prior to hillary clinton's state department stay and also, let me ask you this. what do you think israel thinks about what is going on and president obama and hillary clinton is running on the coat tails of president obama? do you think israel is cool with obama/clinton. >> or iran deal? >> i care a lot about what israel thinks. i care a lot more about what americans think and what american generals think and we have had american military leaders. >> israel is our close, we need. >> they are scared about iran. we know that netanyahu and barack obama aren't going to be getting to get brunch any time soon they aren't besties. >> she ran the state department for four years. >> people of israel if you take a look at polls of american jews and you see that overwhelmingly support the nuclear deal with iran and overwhelmly support.
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>> you know the iran deal -- >> -- i will tell you what we can do. that was very hot debate. if the break we can look that up and look at the polls. gentlemen, we will leave it right there. next in the rundown, the supreme court giving two blockbuster rulings on immigration and affirmative action. we will take a hard look at that as this o'reilly ♪ ♪ it's here, but it's going by fast. the opportunity of the year is back: the mercedes-benz summer event. get to your dealer today for incredible once-a-season offers, and start firing up those grilles. lease the cla250 for $299 a month at your local mercedes-benz dealer. mercedes-benz. the best or nothing.
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the way it is that's not a solution. in fact, that's the real amnesty, pretending we can deport 11 million people or build a wall without spending tens of billions of dollars of taxpayer money is abetting what is really just factually incorrect. we don't have to wall ourselves off from those who may not look like us right now or pray like we do or have a different last name because being an american is about something more than that. >> the president also blasted republicans, blaming them or the dead lock in demanding that senate republicans allow hearings on merrick garland, his supreme court nominee. >> republicans in congress clearly are woefully allowing the supreme court from being fully staffed and functioning as our founders intended and today's situation underscores the degree to which the court is not able to function the way
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it's supposed to. >> joining us now with reaction from washington i will i can't shapiro, a senior fellow at the cato institute and francis is francisco. that was a size being loss for obama today. you could see it and hear he was shaken by it? >> it's a lot for all of us, a 4-4 tie doesn't do anything and the chances of the supreme court taking it up again are almost zero it really just goes back to congress where it started and it should have been. i think it was a rigged vote. i think they decide to do do no harm since we don't have the nine supreme court justice. >> hold on. you are accusing the supreme court of a rigged vote? you do realize so the audience understands that the lower court, the fifth circuit said no, it's not going to work we don't want this executive action. they set it up to the supreme court where they said we are going to send it back down standing by the original lower court
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decision. >> right. don't put historic precedent in it. just do a 4-4 tie. let it go back to the way it was and wait for congress to do something which is where it belongs. it doesn't mean they opined either way. it means we are missing a supreme court justice. what are we going to do? we are still in the same situation we are before. >> it's also the way the law works in the country. immigration, one person, even the president can't unilaterally change the system. that's good news. >> that's the whole thick. this is not a debate about whether immigrants or good or bad or what kind of reform we need. this is correctly in congress' lap. roberto got that right. president obama expid to do rewrite the law. that's why we are in this mess. maybe if he had at the very beginning not egg ignored the separation of powers and other constitutional provisions throughout his entire tenure in every area, maybe then congress would trust him and we could have immigration reform. it takes a law to change law
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enforcement if scalia had been there they would have struck it down 5-4, no difference. >> this action was taken prior to scalia's death. this wasn't going to win anyway. >> what would have, could have didn't happen. the difference is we have 8 supreme court justices. now president george bush tried it in 2000 with an all democrat congress with all republican congress. this goes all the way back for 16 years. it isn't just obama. congress needs to act. we both agree on that. whether this was constitutional or not. it doesn't matter. we are still where we were before. >> do you know what happens? this is why this matters. we are in the middle of a presidential election. donald trump, love him or hate him, republicans have to say if that were a liberal supreme court ninth justice there, you may have a different outcome on this a million illegal immigrants in the country, therefore, even if you don't like a trump, maybe do you swallow the trump medicine and vote for him just because you
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don't want a supreme court that is as far left or leans left for the next 20, 30 years? >> that's not correct analysis. >> president obama and francisco are being disingenuous. even if merrick garland had been confirmed in record time, it wouldn't have been soon enough to hear this case or any other case. >> this is not, again, we can talk about what congress should or shouldn't do or what it should have done under bush or should have done under obama. the president as president obama himself recognized 23 times before he decide to do implement this particular action, the president cannot rewrite the law by himself. regardless of what you think the law should be. >> come on. you are a constitutional scholar. you know for a fact that he vested no right on any of the dock cana recipients. no permanent right or promise of anything. only congress can give what you call any immigration reform. >> this means absolutely nothing at all. >> no, no
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action from the supreme court this, may have been seen as a win for president obama. >> it's a win for progressives and this is unusual because three years ago, the court sent it back down saying don't trust what educational add minors are telling you. and now we have a ruling the other way. this is the first time he's approved a program. never closed the door on using race but never approved a program until today. >> so is this ruling also raised by the supreme court? >> i think it should go back to
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congress. i'm a product of affirmative action. let's stop being embarrassed about it. otherwise, george bush would never have gone to college as well. they got in on special programs. >> up next, president obama taking aim at donald trump and striking him where it could hurt most. could those aattacks backfire on the hillary campaign? we'll be right back with that t. i'd like to make a dep--
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giant swing at what trump may value most his reputation as a businessman. >> there's no successful businessman in america who actually thinks the most successful businessman in the country is donald trump. [ laughter ] i know those guys and so do you and i guarantee you that's not their view. >> but will this constant barrage against trump from president obama actually help hillary clinton or could it come back to bite her? joining from boston adrianna bolin and in the studio jessica tarlov. pollster. start with you, i guess president obama wants donald trump with her again sometimes people pushing back against president obama. is this good or bad for hillary? >> i think it's good for her. any time somebody who is as great as campaigner as barack obama is out there on your side is wonderful thing. out with elizabeth warren at the beginning of next week. doing her part, too. we saw in foreign policy speech more of a foreign pot
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shot attack at trump seen well earlier this week. business record, talking about his bankruptcies, the lawsuits, trump university, et cetera. i do think it's a net win for her. >> you know, what strikes me on, this adrianna. president obama and hillary clinton really they have lived off the taxpayer money for a long time. president obama is a community organizer and then he went into politics. she has been in politics a long time. what do they know about business? >> you are absolutely right. give me a break. these are career politicians who have never even run a hot dog stand yet, they have the audacity to criticize president obama's business finesse? you have got to be kidding me. trump has built incredible businesses that have been inenormous success. he has built enormous wealth and created thousands of jobs. i think come november voters have a choice. they can choose hillary clinton who has made the majority of her personal net worth through talking, through speeches paid for by wall street or they can vote for donald trump who has made the lion's share of his
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wealth by building things. when it comes to growing the economy do we want the builder or do we want the talker? i think the choice is clear. >> jessica, this is very important point here, one of the strengths the american people have said that strongest part is -- strong on terror but strong on economy and jobs. all bring in the business aspect of this. >> some business leaders are backing hillary clinton over donald trump. of course he has those on his side karl icon, woody johnson, huge endorsement there and i know he raised a good amount of money yesterday and today certainly. but we had the letter that came out just earlier today from all these executives sarah sandberg, warren buffet. >> they are also well known lefties. >> also well known republicans on this list. dan attkisson general motors. people worked in the reagan administration. h.w. bush administration who are backing hillary clinton. said things think there will be very dark days for america if donald trump is president. >> there is a point to be
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made. some people have said that google is one of them. i'm not sure facebook. >> cheryl sandberg. >> not going to participate in the rnc in the convention in july also one that struck me ford. why would ford pull out of that? that was curiosity. very successful business leaders supporting donald trump. jessica highlighted a few of them. we can add to that list the fownders of -- founders she mentioned home depot, papal. the list is long and deep and we know the ones that are supporting hillary clinton are big lefties like you pointed out, eric. look, donald trump has built an empire. he has built properties all over the world that are spectacular. what -- how has hillary clinton made her money? by talking. there is a big difference. doing and talking. those are your two choices and, you know, hillary clinton said something that really set women back about 50 years. she said recently. she said when it comes to
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the economy she is going to defer to her husband. you have got to be kidding me. if she is not capable of managing our economy, she shouldn't even run for president. i think that women back 50 years. >> also a very good talking point. listen, i was not a fan of that comment. i don't think she should have said it we know bill clinton will play a prominent role. this is about her. she has laid out her plans clearly as opposed to donald trump where it's fuzzy we don't know if he will add 10 trillion to the debt. >> adrianna just let me finish here. your points are completely taken. if you look at the business community and who they are overwhelmingly backing it's not that nobody isn't for trump. obviously. >> aren't going to back donald trump doesn't mean donald trump is a bad businessman. the guy is worth several billion dollars. >> i would like to see his tax returns but, yes, obviously the man is worth a lot of money i get it and he has built things. a lot of people have serious questions about his business records. i do believe he should release his tax returns
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especially since is he calling on transparency on eferl level from clinton. >> you do realize releasing tax returns doesn't show what you are worth? there is a balance sheet. buildings all up and counsel. >> he doesn't own them. he has branded them to the best of my understanding and from what i understand. the point is that this will help clinton out there taking those shots. >> we have got to leave it right threw. ladies, thank you very much. chaos in the house of representatives. and gun control debate veers off the rails, who is to blame? that debate moments away. if you suffer from a dry mouth, then you'll know how uncomfortable it can be. but did you know that the lack of saliva can also lead to tooth decay and bad breath? well, there is biotene, specially formulated with moisturizers and lubricants... biotene can provide soothing relief and it helps keep your mouth healthy too.
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. >> this is a fox news alert, in the united kingdom, votes are being counted in a historic referendum. >> good evening. the debate whether to leave the european union is at stake. the results between so called lead and state side have been razor thin all night. the leave side holding about 2% lead. >> yes. so close to vote in the united kingdom, affecting world markets, the asian markets are all trading sharply lower and the dow could open down more than 500 points down. >> it could be an economic earthquake. british prime minister david cameron support staying in the block. dozens of conservative lawmakers
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urging cameron to stay in office no matter which side wins. >> back to "the o'reilly factor". more news as it breaks. in the unresolved problem segment tonight, guns in america. for 25 hours, congressional democrats stage a chaotic and unprecedented sit-in on the house floor demanding votes on gun control legislation. it brought tempers to boiling point with one republican representative lashing out at them in the middle of the protest ♪ talking about radical islam. radical islam kills people. >> [chanting] no fly no gun. >> meanwhile house speaker paul ryan tried to paint the sit-in as nothing more than a political stunt. >> they are not trying to get this done through regular order. no, instead they are staging
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protests. they are trying to get on tv. they are sending out fundraising solicitations like this one. >> joining us now from nashville with reaction chip suggestionman, a -- sulsman democratic strategist marjorie cliffton. i saw that big drama, house floor sit-in looked like a park couple years ago. at the end they left and guess what's happening? not much is happening. what did they accomplish by this big theater? >> i think visibility. and i think democrats largely know they don't have the power. they don't have the numbers right now to get anything done. and for someone like john lewis who is -- he only uses his political capital when it really matters like in the civil rights movement to take that and take to the floor means this is an issue that is important. we have got to get people fired up about it and let them know what's going on. >> listen, but tell me this. what proposed gun legislation that the
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democrats brought both to the senate and to the house, what poo opposed legislation would have changed orlando? none of them. >> all large of a bigger picture. orlando event drawing visibility to a national crisis. you have everyone from the commander of the international armed services mcchrystal who is even calling people to say we need to do something. inaction is not an option because we lost 18 times more people in the u.s. from 2001 to 200010 to gun violence than we lost in the iraq and afghanistan together. so that is not acceptable. >> marjorie, we can do these numbers until we are blue in the face. about 10,000 people are killed by gun. half of them are suicides. it's about 5,000. it pails in comparison to the other ways to i do in america. i have got to bring chip in this no fly no buy chant, it wouldn't have affected san bernardino and it wouldn't
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have affected orlando. what are they going for here. >> they are going for publicity and going tore fundraising. democrats do what they do best sit on their butts and do nothing and blame somebody else. they have been doing that in congress for a long time. that's why they are in the minority. all about fundraising. let's give them credit they worked for a whole 25 hours on this. now they they're in washington and new york and san francisco raising money on this issue. that's what it was all about. speaker ryan nailed it when he talked about it i said i hoped the speaker had turned this into a lock gin. turn off the lights and lock the door and see how long they last not very long. >> hundreds of people are being killed on the streets of killing every single year. what legislation would change that and why aren't they targeting that rather than worrying about someone being on no pray list. >> that is some of the things that they propose. some of the things they propose is universal background checks that would apply to gun shows and internet sales.
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>> how does that stop a gang banger in the street of chicago from shooting someone else? he is not going to be -- >> -- because if you have a criminal record, it means you are being checked at every place that you can buy a gun. what it does is take a lot of guns off the streets and takes guns out of peoplewho trying to defend themselves. poor people in chicago in st. louis, in los angeles. poor people if you raise the cost of a gun by requiring $50, $75, $85 background check they won't be able to afford the guns to protect themselves. >> most of the stories we hear are not about people who shot themselves but victim of cry lent crime. shot will running away. not a situation where they happen to have a gun handy and pull it out at gun point. how do we take it out of the hands of criminals and people who have known terrorist records or tears ties. in the u.s. right now, the number of people who are on the no fly list, this american citizens is 2700
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people. there are 50,000 people on that list who are not american citizens who are on that watch list who can buy guns in the u.s. that is a simple measure that communicates a concern. a by partisan concern and i think those steps are important. >> chip, marjorie points out the violent crime perpetrated on innocent americans. however, this guy, this mateen guy, joker in orlando stood up, pledged his allegiance to al baghdady, eye sis, yelled allah akbar and shot the place up. that's not a violent crime. that's a terrorist act. >> that's right. we have done nothing to stem radical islam in this country. threes where the real fight is. this isn't about guns. this is about terrorism in our streets, in our cities and the congress have done nothing. the career politicians in washington has been sitting on their hands under the leadership of president obama and isis and radical islam has now entered our country and that's where they need to be focused on. >> chip, marjorie, great
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thanks for staying with us for this special edition of the factor, election 2016 special. i'm eric bolling in for bill o'reilly and in the personal story segment tonight. a pro-trump super pac has released a vicious new attack ad against the clintons and it's raising a lot of eyebrows. >> so who is all for women until she isn't? hillary clinton. when bill cosby accused of sexual assault, mrs. clinton tweeted every survivor sexual assault deserves to be believed. but when another bill was accused of sexual assault not so much. she called those women loony tune and staged destruction from a white house war room. she savaged their killing any at this and them. >> some folks are going to be have a lot to answer for. >> rebuilding america is responsible? rebuilding america now is the super pac behind web ad is this attack fair or
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crossing way over the line? here to analyze co-host of the five dana perino. >> >> donald trump effectively remember early on in the campaign in the winter time i remember, you know, they want to do go after donald trump for possible womanizing in the past and he said oh no, you don't. he effectively stopped them from making that argument anymore. this is a super pac. so not coordinated with the trump campaign directly. does it go over the line? that's what super pacs do. they are kind of allowed to for a lot of people who think she is already untrust one way or the other and don't like her, those will reinforce those views. i don't think it's that persuasive for other democrats who might be on the fence. >> what about other people who say this is too vicious of an attack he shouldn't be doing this? meanwhile, hillary clinton, the clintons have been known to be vicious, haven't they. >> i always remember this part, fliewzy benbow. i remember being disappointed on how this
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intern was treated. they called her a lot of the names. i wasn't there. i wasn't going to judge exactly what happened. i always felt thee deserved better from the first lady maybe like not talk about her at all. clintons fight very viciously. they are partisans that's how they win. >> stay on that. so they are claiming that things could be too vicious to hillary, this ad, et cetera. meanwhile they are fighters themselves. >> absolutely. >> remember the chock a.m. call. at one point they accused president obama of selling favors to the nuclear industry. >> right. so this is -- it's going to continue. it will get worse. thing for republicans is they have believed for almost three decades now that scandals were going to bring down the clintons and they think that now with the email scandal. by all accounts it should, but it probably is not going to. >> but how about this clinton foundation? i know we talk about it a lot, there are still
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instances where hillary clinton made deals with foreign countries and foreign companies and bill clinton somehow ends up with a speech for 500,000. >> $750,000 or a donation of $2 million to the foundation. >> how is that not quid pro quo. >> certainly shady. a lot of people when you talk about clinton global initiative but you have to say but they do a lot of the good work. they could have done a lot of good work without doing it this way. look at the unfavorable numbers people say they don't like her because they don't trust her. they think she is fake. that doesn't actually carry over to bill clinton himself. for some reason it's hillary it's like rub ago cat the wrong way. people just don't like her. >> you say it's going to >> this is a fox news alert. we can say a number of news
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outlets are projecting uk is voting out of the european union. and on twitter, it's being written that history is being written tonight. >> economic earthquake, for 4 or 5 days the markets have really factored in it would be stay in the eu. they thought the vote would come through. the past couple days we saw a big rally on wall street and look now, dow futures down almost 500 points. the british pound, crashing as well, we saw this happen over the past couple hours. as these results are coming in from the uk. you look there, it's just about dawn now in london. imagine waking up in what is going to be the longest, messiest divorce that can happen in economic history. >> that is right. we knew this is going to be
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close. they're saying over 70%, and the number keeps rising, people showed up to vote today on whether the uk should leave the eu or not. this gives you a sense of how passionate people are about wanting to leave or stay and there seem to have been no middle ground. people saying i'm not sure. now is this going to play out? either you wanted to leave or stay. this has huge implications for the world. also for prime minister david cameron. so it will be interesting to see how this plays out and how they'll be talking about it for the next 24 hours. >> you mean the next 24 years, we're waiting for prime minister david cameron. you're looking at video of him walking in to vote. he was a huge proponent to staying, saying it would be akin to jumping out of an airplane
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and a lot of people are saying he put his weight, months of campaigning behind staying in the eu. now, it appears though, we can't project this, we don't have data here, but the bbc, sky news among others are projecting the uk will decide to leave the european union. we're waiting prime minister cameron's remarks. you think about this. just months ago, it was president obama in london with david cameron talking about the need for the uk to stay in. it was almost sort of seen as a little bit odd for a u.s. president to be inserting himself into domestic affairs of another country. you see this playing outside inside of the uk of a rejection of this value system. >> there is a lot riding on national security. especially at this time, you think about russia and iran and how important the uk has been in the eu to make sure they stand
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in line with the united states on many issues so people that voted in favor of staying with the eu, i think have some real concerns there including people here in the u.s. what that means for fighting terrorism, and our national security around the world. it's very real. >> not only that, huge implications for what this means for nato, what this means in terms of the united kingdom and how it's going to exit the eu. >> and if other members speak about stepping away. that is another big question. >> they're talking about a french exit. it could be possible. i'm trying to figure out the verbiage on that. joining us on phone tom rogan. you'll be able to tell from his accent a member of the uk citizenry. tom, nice to have you with us. appreciate you joining us. your reactions heres this news is coming in. >> good to be with you, yes. i think it's obviously momentous
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news in the sense that britain is leaving the european union. it poses systemic changes for the united kingdom and france and germany, bringing into play issues like greece. it a lots, as mentioned brings into play the nature of britain's role in the world in terms of foreign policy and national security. it's big news. i think though there was some suggestions, i thought it was tipping and i said it would tip towards leave. it is a big deal. >> this is abby here, talk to us about the people that voted to leave. i know immigration was a big one. talk to us about why they're wanting something different from the way that is the idea of
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sovereignty is important and i would give you an example of this. one, the european union three brussels, through the courts of justice, has an immense degree of control over diplomacy as it stands at the moment. over british law. and that means that the british parliament and local councils have had to yield to the authority of politicians in brussels but no one knows about. that infuriates people. if you look at the british national identity, it's deeply patriotic. i think it got to a point where people said enough is enough. and then, the european union didn't get it. they thought in that best and worst of liberal elite politicians they knew better and that the minions and masses would come along one day and they didn't. it does show capacity of democracy in the modern age to
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push back against, you know, the vested interest. >> now, pushing back folks in the united kingdom, i want to bring our viewers up to date here. you're looking at manchester and the united kingdom. some happy folks there in the lead campaign for leaving eu. there are now multiple british broadcasters, sky news among them, our sister station there with the bbc, itv projecting the leave the eu will win. the leave vote inside of the united kingdom. some are saying this could be an economic earthquake felt around the world. dow futures are down over 500 points. we're expecting prime minister cameron to come out of number 10, downing street sometime in the next little while. sky news reported that if the leave vote won, cameron may resign as early as tomorrow. we have no way of knowing whether that is true or not. we're looking at pictures of
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number 10 downing street, so far, no movement. one of the lead proponents saying today as the sun rises there, in london about 5:50 a.m., that is the lawn of an independent united kingdom. joining us now, tom rogan. tom, as you have a unique perspective on this being british and american. give us a sense of how these two intersections are happening here. the level of anger we felt in the united states is evidenced by donald trump's nomination for the republican presidential candidate. and then, this lead vote there in the united kingdom, both centering around immigration. >> yes. i think that is incredibly important point. and i think again, it comes down to that issue of untapped anger that became tapped. it was tapped by the referendum and tapped now by the rise of
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donald trump. and so the donald trump campaign, i imagine, will be looking at the potential of the same anger, if you think about tonight, where the victory for the lead campaign was won in the hard left strong holds in old industrial towns of modern england, similar to areas of pennsylvania and ohio by depreciation of manufacturing. that allows donald trump to potentially tap into that. it's astonishing. it is. i -- it is going to take a few days for this to settle in. >> has this issue done permanent damage to cameron's coalition? leland is speaking about potentially resigning tomorrow.
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what does this mean for talk about him resigning as soon as tomorrow? >> i think that is possible for a number of reasons there. there is a letter suggesting the conservative mps were asked to sign up in support of cameron and 33% did not do that. that is grounds for -- sign that the elements knew what to push forward with a change in leadership and cameron might decide that he can go out on a high note of having held this referendum and deciding it might be time for someone else to vanish the transition. or he may decide he's the prime minister and going to navigate the process through. it brings into the question his
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future. and then, you know, again, there are so many dynamics to this in different ways. that is why this story is going to be so big. >> if we zoom out from intern yool politics, broader world view, you do get a sense that everyone didn't take this seriously enough of the kind of impact this could have around the world, now, we're realizing this is a reality that started a couple hours ago and appears the lead vote had a little bit more support than we thought. when it comes to the economic effect and just the general effect it may have on the u.s. election. >> yes. well, you know, i read a piece this week or, talking about what
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this would mean for the united states. my take ways in terms of the direct military and intelligence relationship there is going to be a systemic change. what is likely to happen is that british government when the economic shocks begin to reverberate throughout the economy and negotiations about how to replace the free trading arrangement there are still ongoing, i suspect the british government may be willing to turn more of a blind eye to russian finance in london. and of course a lot of them are linked to organized crime. uk government might decide to become closer to china in terms of the asian investment back which has been a point of
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contention for the last couple years behind the scenes but look. now, as britain looks for identities to generate capital investment beyond the eu, they must decide what china is doing in the south china sea is less important than the opportunities of chinese finances, that gives you one example of how global and wide ranging the ramifications of this might be. >> tom, before we let you go, just thoughts being someone from the u.s. and uk. people wondering the impact this may have on our presidential elections. there seems to be a similar sentiment going on wanting anything but what is going on in washington or uk being part of the eu. how do you think this will impact elections here at home? could this mow ti vat people behind the donald trump movement? speaking about anything but the status quo?
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do you think this will have imbakt here? in the united states? >> i do. because of the populist element of this. it's possible through populist momentum. if it is grounded in these notions of identify and populism and the idea of what is the -- what should the nation look like in terms of, you know, control over borders, etc., that is something that donald trump has been playing up. it gives him further incentive to try to play this. boy think to be interesting to see what are the polls in pennsylvania and ohio in the next couple weeks. we'll see, it's been a lot jufrm
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