and that's it for today. have a great week. and we'll see you next "fox news sunday." fox urgent, world financials parched to see what will happen with the first full week of trading. since britain exited the european union, asian markets opening in about 59 minutes. we'll be monitoring for reaction. and that so-called brexit is having an impact on american politics already. the top contenders for the white house donald trump and hillary clinton are going at each other with a fresh round of heat. and developing into a big story, new polling which shows a double-digit advantage for one of them. critics are asking, is that poll the real deal? i'm harris faulkner. this is "the "fox report"."

donald trump slamming the latest abc news/"washington post" poll that shows clinton with a 12-point lead. compare that to a poll showing clinton just up by five points. wefr fox team political coverage. kristin fisher following the trump campaign. we'll go to mike emanuel, who's live in indianapolis, where hillary clinton spoke just a short time ago, mike, to a gathering of city mayors. i understand she's trying to sell her experience to the crowd. how did that go? >> reporter: harris, no question about that. hillary clinton talked about steady, experienced leadership, being critical at times like these, and she spoke about partnering with america's mayors. >> we need leaders like yourself at the local and state and federal level who understand how to work with other leaders to manage risks, who understand that bombastic comments in

turbulent times can actually cause more turbulence. and who put the interests of the american people ahead of their personal business interests. >> a swipe there at donald trump, but with at least some republican mayors in the room, hillary clinton did not mention trump by name. >> well, she probably didn't have to. he's been pretty active on twitter. he let her know that he was right, she was wrong. so she was wrong about brexit. how is she trying to reassure people, her supporters? >> reporter: well, she essentially said that america needs leaders who realize that our partnerships and alliances are critical at times like tht's critical that our leadership understands that these partnerships make us more safe. >> no one should be confused about america's commitment to europe. not an autocrat in the kremlin.

not a presidential candidate on a scottish golf course. >> from here, it's on to battleground ohio, where clinton will be joined on the campaign trail by massachusetts senator elizabeth warren. warren is mentioned as a possible running mate, and all will be looking for any sign of chemistry between the two and how they might possibly work together. >> by some estimations, she's the bernie sanders crowd to siphon them. what about bernie? >> reporter: the other day, he said he would not be the democratic nominee for president. then he said he would vote for her. but then sanders today said he can't just flip a switch to make his supporters back clinton. >> it's not just bernie sanders, oh, yeah, just vote for hillary clinton. it is hillary clinton standing up and saying, you know what? these are the things we need to do. and if she does the right thing, i am absolutely confident that the vast majority of my

supporters will vote for her. >> reporter: short of endorsing her, sanders trying to hold on to some leverage to try to get something in the negotiations with the clinton camp. harris? >> that's a nice way to put it. he basically said, yeah, i might vote for her, but you do what you want. mike emanuel, good to see you. thank you. donald trump is reacting to those polls that i just mentioned. kristin fisher is live for us in washington. and he did hit social media with this. >> reporter: he did. trump took to twitter to essentially call the abc news poll dishonest, but even more telling is what paul manafort said this morning on "meet the press." manafort said you can't compare the clinton machine to trump's more unconventional campaign, especially when, as trump says, it's just getting started. >> we have thousands of people in the battleground states who

are now in place. we have state organizations in place. we have our campaign plans in place. we have a candidate who doesn't need to figure out what's going on in order to say what he wants to do. >> reporter: so that's manafort essentially trying to reassure worried republicans that this campaign is ready for a general election fight and ready for the convention, which is now just three weeks away. >> you know, i've been reading more about that virginia lawsuit which seeks to unbind the delegates for trump, which would essentially mean they could vote for whom they want when they get to the convention. what's happening with that? >> reporter: this is just the latest effort from the never trump movement. it involves a republican delegate challenging a virginia state law that would force him to back trump at the convention. at the same time, there are reportedly hundreds of other delegates trying to dump trump by changing party rules to include a conscience clause, which would allow delegates to vote for whomever they want.

yesterday, trump told our jim roberts that he's not worried about it and here's why. >> i have millions of people out there, almost 14 million to be exact, that will be extremely upset if that happened. i've won easily and won big. now somebody's going to try and take it away? i don't think so. and i'm doing very well in the polls. but they couldn't do it if they wanted. even though it's you, it's made up by the press. >> this lawsuit gives credence to the argument that this is not made up by the press, that it's still a real movement, one that continues to generate significant unknowns heading into cleveland. harris? >> kristin, thank you. right now, eye-popping video coming into fox news from a protest in california. late today, two groups who, well, hate each other ended up in a brawl. people stabbed, several hospitalized, a couple in critical condition we've just learned. and if you have young ones in the room, this video is kind of rough, so we'll give you a

moment to get set with that. police were on bicycles, horseback doing their jobs to keep the peace. watch. >> oh, my god. >> this really was brutal. the man in the middle of your screen, you can see it. there were a lot of smart phones and cameras, so plenty of pictures and video of this quickly hitting social media. launch blanc lauren blanchard is following this. >> a pretty serious scene. the fire department saying seven people were hurt and sent to area hospitals. two with critical trauma stab wounds after a white nationalist group and counterprotesters clashed outside the sacramento, california, capitol. you can see people hitting each other with sticks. things turned violent when folks carrying makeshift weapons rushed in. there were about two dozen original protesters and over 100

counterprotesters. the chairman said one of his members was stabbed in an artery. >> they attacked us with all these weapons, chanting kill the nazis, kill the fascists. they were not people. these radical left wingers that were coming to get into a fistfight. they were yelling that they were going to kill our members. they tried to do just that. they stabbed one of our members. they hit one of his arteries. >> the traditionalist worker party, a white nationalist group labeled a hate group by the southern poverty law center and the golden state skin heads were planning to hold a rally to protest globalization and exercise their freedom of speech. and they were aware they would be met by protesters, but went ahead anyway. the group by any means necessary, a militant left wing organization is part of the counterprotest. one member said they were there to stop the nazis however they could. >> everyone who came here today, came here united with one goal, and that was to shut down the nazi scum and we did that. >> the nationalist group said two of their members were

injured. one critically. we're still waiting to hear the extent of the other injuries. >> the numbers that you pointed out really support what i've been reading online. and that is this group had a permit. they were ready to gather illegally and this other group had gotten together online. and if you had a few dozen versus hundreds, you saw the video. so it will be interesting to see how this all plays out once police get to the bottom of it. but they let it go on, as i understand, because they were protecting their free speech rights as well to gather because they had a permit. thank you. emotions still running high inside the united kingdom, as you might imagine. who will take over as the new prime minister? and what about calls for a brexit revote? have you heard about this? and then there's this. an important battle victory being declared in the fight against the islamic state savage. u.s. air strikes helping iraqi

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iraqi forces are claiming a major victory against the islamic state savages. they're saying they fully liberated the city of fallujah. a top iraqi commander says the last isis fighters have fled, driven without the help of u.s. air strikes. fallujah lies just 40 miles west of baghdad and has been used as a staging point for terror attacks on iraqi's capital city.

isis still controls large parts of that country, including mosul, the second-largest city. but iraqi leaders say that will be the next place they go to liberate. beginning in about 45 minutes, we're watching the markets opening up in asia. the european markets open during overnight hours in the united states. we'll be watching it an monitoring it for you. eu leaders are discussing how to move forward inside the united kingdom. some are trying to take the brexit vote back. have a revote. john kerry is arriving in europe today for emergency talks on that. men gentleman minute hall is live in london. i really want to start there. what is a revote of brexit going to look like? >> it's very hard to know at the moment whether or not that is going to happen. there are a lot of angry people here at the moment and that has to pan out. most people looking ahead to

tomorrow. how we're going to know how this was taken around the world. a new europe. but the focus has been on the protests. so many people furious with this decision. in scotland in particular, the first minister has said that she's going to try and block the vote. but in the uk and abroad, there is a big push to start looking ahead, looking forward. today, secretary kerry arrived in europe to help. he was really seeking to ease tensions. >> the most important thing is that all of us as leaders work together to provide as much continuity, as much stability, as much certainty as possible in order for the marketplace to understand that there are ways to minimize disruption. >> and of course, the best way to minimize that disruption is to find a prime minister. we don't have one at the moment, so that's what everyone has to

focus on moving ahead. >> but there are some candidates who are being talked about. tell me about that. >> yeah, just here we are sunday night, they're starting to come out of the woodwork. they're going to be starting their campaigning next week. at the top of the list, boris johnson. he led the leave campaign. he was writing an article today. he said the first thing to do is to build bridges. we have to get the uk together again. also, reminding people what this vote was about. he said, quote, the british democracy was being undermined by the eu system, and that we should restore to the people that vital power to kick out rulers at elections, and to choose new ones. but again, for many around the globe now, the true test will come when the markets open. there have been dramatic movements and there are indications that the asian markets will see the pound drop further. so stability is what's needed and the british chancellor will be saying tomorrow morning at 6:00 a.m., we've got to calm this down, look ahead and do what we can, so the global markets are settled. but it's tough at the moment.

>> people in france are saying hey, maybe they should do that there. this is catching on potentially. we'll watch it all. it's an interesting feathering out, if you will, from london. >> absolutely. many countries around europe, spain, italy, sweden, hungary have big skeptic parties and they'll be looking closely to see how europe responds and if they can follow suit. we just don't know yet. >> always good to see you, benjamin, thank you. new developments in the search for missing flood victims in west virginia. a live report on the latest relief efforts, including what people in those hardest hit counties were finally able to do for the first time since the deadly flooding started. and the devastate out west not from water, fire. communities reduced to smoldering ruins, as you can see in the pictures here. we'll get updated. numbers on raging wildfire. stay with us.

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a check now on an out-of-control wildfire. it is breaking news at this hour. now 200 homes have burned. buildings included in that in central california. crews are working to establish a perimeter around the flames, which have scorched nearly 60 square miles since breaking out on thursday. we do now know that an elderly couple has died, apparently overcome by smoke while trying to escape. authorities are warning the death toll could rise as they continue to search through homes. many of them reduced to ashes. >> there's many who have lost

their house. you feel grateful that you were spared, but you look around at the devastation and it just is horrific. these people had a house yesterday morning when they got up and now they don't. >> will carr is reporting live from lake isabella, california. we have just popped up on the screen 10% contained, will. and look at what's behind you there. >> reporter: that's right, harris. really heartbreaking when you talk to the families about everything they've lost. the home next to me, you can see the roof crumpled. the foundation. that's all that's left. we want to give you a better visual with a live drive down the street that we're on right now. home after home, wwe seen this street after street all burned to the ground. but it's not just the loss of possessions. there's also been deaths of pets. we've tragically seen dogs that were burned to death. and then there's the loss of human life. on friday, two bodies were found. charred remains were found. so badly charred that now they're having to be tested to see if they're human.

today, search crews have been going property by property here doing everything they can to make sure there are no more victims. >> if you look around, there's a lot of destruction here. there is the potential for more fatalities. we have to go to each property and ensure that there's no victims. we're utilizing cadaver dogs. we have nine search dogs. and we have nine teams out currently canvassing these areas. >> reporter: and they're doing all of that in hundred-degree heat. once they clear a property, they put a pink ribbon just like this. we have a long line of pink ribbons on the street that we're on. that's good news. that's what's happening here in the neighborhoods. up on the front lines, as you mentioned, harris, this fire is now 10% contained. it's burned 37,000 acres and the firefighters we have spoken with say at this point, they're cautiously optimistic. harris? >> will, thank you very much. let's go to west virginia where they are locked in the grip of extreme weather.

tens of thousands of people still do not have electtiesty in the wake of last week's deadly flooding.ricity in the wake of last week's deadly flooding. we're looking at the forecast. it's headed in that direction. the situation is so dire that the pga tour has canceled the greenbrier classic, which was scheduled for next month. garrett tenney live in west virginia for us. when you look at that, you can understand why things are being canceled. it will take a while to recover. >> reporter: this cleanup will take weeks, if not months. the actual recovery effort for some people will take much longer. this cleanup effort is well under way. you have these machines going up and down these creeks, which were completely flooded over during this flash flooding three days ago. they've been picking up this debris going all up and down the street. here as well as the other hardest hit areas throughout the state. look over here, harris.

this cement slab right here that i'm standing on. it is completely disconnected from the road over there. there used to be a bridge here made of steel and concrete. when this little creek flooded, ten feet of water, it brought several homes from up this rifl down. two homes, one car. smashed through this bridge. you can see the video that this homeowner took while that was happening. destroyed the bridge and left this debris all along here. one of the owners of those homes is diana sanders. her husband was inside that home. he's one of the 24 people who have been killed in these floodings across west virginia. we spoke to her this afternoon. she lost her home, her car, all of their belongings, and then lost her husband as well. we asked her, how it is that she is coping and what that experience has been like. >> i found him in between those

two houses, under a bunch of stuff. i'm not gonna cry. i won't. not in front of you. uh-uh. >> reporter: you can tell she's still in a little bit of shock here, as many folks are. one thing i want to mention, one of the reasons that these machines are going up and down these creeks is because tomorrow we'll be getting rain for the first time since these floodings have started. the national weather service already issued flood watches, including for this area. they're worried if they don't get these creeks cleared up, that it could lead to more backup and more flooding tomorrow. harris? >> i tell you, you just took my breath away when you walked close to the edge and you see what they're dealing with there. and now the rain is coming. our prayers with those people. thank you so very much. you have fire and flooding. and then this breaking news story, too. fox urgent now. amtrak crash in colorado. we are learning at least five

people have been killed, one person badly injured. an amtrak train, we understand, has hit a car that was reportedly blocking the tracks. it happened near trinidad. that's in southern colorado. the state patrol there is confirming the deaths and has done so on twitter, we understand. they say one minor, one child, has been flown to a hospital in serious condition. those are the details we have. as we get more, we'll bring them to you. the brexit. the vote won in great britain and it was the sound of voices at the polls heard around the world. it's fueled by concerns over the economy, immigration, and anger at the establishment there. does any of that in politics sound familiar? question. could brexit impact our presidential race, motivate some people here who have some of the same grievances? what would that look like at the polls? and prominent conservative

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political insiders john leboutilli leboutillier, former republican congressman for new york. pat caddell, former pollster for president jimmy carter. and doug schoen, former pollster for president bill clinton and a fox news contributor as well. good to see you. we had a little bit of news over the weekend. the first of the markets that we're watching floe ining globa then it will go on from there. europe opens up overnight. john, brexit. britain's exit from the eu. >> you know, harris, when i saw it at 5:00 on friday morning, the first two thoughts i had were remembering 1979 and the shocking election of margaret thatcher and the conservatives in england. and a year later, reagan, which was equally a shock at that time, that reagan would be elected. it was a revolution going on against government, state sponsored stuff, and it was in '79 and '80 and we won that. and here we are a generation

later, and brexit is the sign of the same type of revolutionary fervor missed by the elites in the media. the pollsters are missing it. they're not getting it. the question is, it's here. we know it's here. we've said it to you for four years. it's here. the question is, is it here enough to win the presidency? >> and what would it look like really? because i'm seeing -- you know, donald trump came out. hillary clinton hit with the quick ad. first of all, your thoughts about the hillary clinton ad on brexit. is that kind of a spin job on i was wrong, but i wasn't? >> yeah, it was a spin job. look, i don't think brexit really is going to make a big difference. we have different demographics. hillary is surging in the polls. >> oh, boy. >> well ahead in every swing state except north carolina. huge financial advantage. 50 ceos endorsed hillary. harris, this was the best week of hillary's campaign so far. she is pulling away. >> wow.

>> so the best week, but we have duelling polls. i'll let you take it away. >> if this was her best week, boy is she in trouble. because let me just say, we have duelling polls. we do know this. when you do a poll that's two and a half times more democratic than it's supposed to be over republicans, you can get some interesting results, as abc did. and we know there are good polls and bad polls. the journal has it at five. but i thought their commentary was really good when they said donald trump had the worst month of the campaign, only lost a few points. >> you concede it was the worst month? >> of course it was the worst month. and they said she's been unable to really capitalize because of her own negatives. 50 ceos, part of the corporate crony class, from the bernie supporters to the trump supporters, she can have those. it's like having the endorsement

she got from hank paulson, who helped orchestrate the bailouts and help incite the 2008 collapse when he let lehmann brothers go. this is the establishment as it was in britain joining together. it's the press. i watch the press. bbc, they looked like they were in absolutely shock because they kept waiting on -- well, there's still more results. this is the entire political community. >> go ahead, john. >> i agree with pat, and we've said, all three of us for years, there's a revolution brewing in the country. but the question is, can donald trump overcome his own over-the-top personality sometimes and harness his thinking? he needs to cut back a little bit, you know i mean? not be so harsh. >> does he need to cut back? >> yes. he's got this team forming. he's got paul manafort -- >> no, the team isn't the issue. the issue is the candidate runs

this campaign. and the candidate thinks he can do no wrong. and he needs to realize he's a human being. there are good people who would like to help him. there's no sense in alienating so many people. >> let me ask this question, though, just back on brexit. i mean, when you talk about donald trump, was it just coincidental or did he just hit the jackpot by being where he was when the story was breaking on friday? >> i would say it is fortuitous. to pat and john's point, the people that voted to leave the uk, to vote for taking britain back, to vote to limit immigration are the same people who have supported donald trump. the but is more important, harris. there is a broad mass of people in this country who don't like donald trump now, who say he's unqualified to be president, and as john and pat say, it's going to be a real challenge for him to turn that around and harness -- >> let's talk about these polls.

we have two of the greatest pollsters on our desk right now. so i want to pop up, first of all, that "washington post" poll, which donald trump takes exception to that shows a 12-point difference. okay, but i've heard you, pat, call this an outlier. >> well, yes, it's an outlier. they had democrats at about two and a half times the margin over republicans. if you brought it in line. and often, by the way, their pedigree history is that they usually are the most outliered pro-democratic polling. but all the polls vary. but it is not ten points with only 10% for other candidates. in the cbs polls this morning, in the swing states, you have what is basically a situation. you have both of them basically tied around 40%. a point or two. statistically, they are tied. >> nbc news has another one even tighter. you guys know about polls.

is that a good one to look at? what do you look at? >> all of them. >> you look at all of them. >> let pat finish. >> you try to look at all of them and you have to look at how they're constructed. i'm interested in the much deeper numbers. but the problem is they're so shallow. what we have is what we cannot decide yet. we have two candidates of high negatives. one is the candidate of the status quo, the america we have at a time when 68% think the country is in decline. 80 some percent believe the country is rigged against them. and is this election going to be about qualifications? or is it going to be are you happy with where you are? it smells more like 1980. >> when i like your tweet, it means i'm trying to get it into the conversation. eddie hill, directly to you, john, says trump does not need to change. we'll talk more about this on the other side of the break. stay close. morrow... ♪

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welcome back. my guests are here at home base. pat, i heard you say during the commercial, that i don't know if this shakes the world. noted conservative george wills says he's getting out of the gop. i'm looking down seeing some social media. people are -- colleen whitman is talking about voting for gary johnson and gil steen. >> you mean governor whitman? >> gary johnson and jill stein. your thoughts? so you've got people saying -- >> look, that's why i say these polls -- that's been my objection to the cnn poll. it's sort of what i said about the "post" this morning. we've been seeing a good fifth or bigger to a fourth of the american people who are floating

around saying i don't want either of these candidates. these third party candidates who are unknown, getting votes. some people are staying home. we talk about revolution. it's an important part. we are farther along. the anti-establishment, and the anti-press. i mean, everyone in england. you're a racist if you're for going out. just like our press does here. never have i seen the mainstream press more united in their belief that we live in traditional times and that trump must be defeated, so that you have a resentment in people. but more importantly, you have a country that thinks it is disempowered. >> doug? >> harris, there still is a revolutionary fervor in the electoral. we've talked about third parties. doesn't look like there's going to be one. garrett johnson and jill stein

are picking up angry voters. what hillary clinton and donald trump both have to do, and neither has done it with full force yet, is to captivate the electorate with a message of change at a time when people are fundamentally angry with the economic social, and political arrangements in the country. both here and in term of our foreign policy. >> and i'm going to get to a really interesting tweet in just a second. but doug, since we have you here and you're friends with the clintons, i have to ask. >> sure. >> you see hillary clinton had a tough week. i know you said she had a great week. >> she was wrong on brexit. she and donald trump did the duelling speech thing. >> right. >> and at one point, she's talking about the economy, but she never once says what she's going to do different than the last eight years. she goes after donald trump, but she doesn't say what she's going to do. she did tell us she's going to put her husband in charge of economy. >> right. >> after throwing him under the bus on anything else. >> please, let me speak for the clintons. >> i'm sorry. >> you're going to speak for the clintons. this will be good. >> i am, because i know what

they're going to do. i know what they're going to think. here's what they're going to do. because hillary lacks credibility, the campaign is going to be close to a $2 billion effort to disqualify donald trump. hillary does need an economic plan. she doesn't have one. but she believes, and you will see an unprecedented level of money and resources to continue -- >> he started that. did you hear what doug said? because she lacks credibility on this issue. you're a friend. >> i am her friend. i'm her supporter. >> here is the question. hillary will have two billion. and the media will be for hillary. >> four billion right there. >> one issue is, is trump suitable to be president? trump has basically no money. the media is against him. >> that's not true. he says he's raising quite a bit. >> it doesn't matter. we've learned this year, it doesn't matter. the message is more than the money. >> interesting. >> and the message is fermenting. it's what brexit was all about.

>> has he articulated it? >> no, he has not articulated it. that's what i'm getting to, if i could ever be allowed to get there, which is he's in the 30s. in all the polls. he's 38, 37. if he wants to get either to 50 or 47 or somewhere, it's time to do what we have said for four years on this show. a candidate needs to spell out a positive agenda. boom, boom, boom. hispanics. you think you don't like me? i will get you jobs. i'll get your children jobs. >> he has said that. >> but not just say it. he's got to show how he's going to do it. and then he goes off on a tangent. it's got to be a disciplined message. >> can i just say, with a you saw this week is that he did at least lay out his case, partly a case against hillary clinton. and he did it without people have been so viciously personal. >> he said she should be in jail. >> i think elizabeth warren has the viciously personal locked up

right now. >> and so does hillary. what she said is truth and how donald trump prove something. look, this is a criminal enterprise at work. to get that $2 million, they will sell every bit of this government and this country. wall street. this woman gets up there and says oh, by the way, i've been getting dark money out of politics. let me just finish my point. >> is it criminal? >> i am saying what she has been doing is criminal. and the e-mails, the thing with the clinton foundation. exactly. when she refuses to allow you to know what she said to the wall street executives, my grandson figured this out. >> here's what i think, though. harris, i think it's all true. but it's already -- most of that is baked in the cake. >> you can say it's baked in the cake, but my question has been how effective can negative campaigning do? because she wouldn't be spending $40 million against trump if the negativity didn't sell. >> it does sell.

>> so two things. i mentioned elizabeth warren who said they all have said on the left side of the aisle that donald trump has been nasty, we're not going there. they got really nasty this past week. red o'loughlin says on twitter, harris, ask why the national polls even matter when it only comes down to a few states. stay with us. we're coming right back. the lexus gs f sport. because the ultimate expression of power, is control. this is the pursuit of perfection. did your 22-page insuranceand you nepolicy say, "great news. you're covered?" no. it said, "blah blah blah blah..." the liberty mutual app with coverage compass makes it easy to know what you're covered for and what you're not. liberty mutual insurance. i am totally blind. i lost my sight in afghanistan. if you're totally blind, you may also be struggling with non-24. calling 844-844-2424. or visit my24info.com.

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couple of points, either way. but hillary is ahead in all. but trump's within the margin of error. >> we get too hung up on the horse race, trump versus hillary. we haven't even mentioned, we're 20 minutes into the show, one of the key polling numbers, and it never is talked about anymore. right track, wrong track. do you believe the country is on the right track or the wrong track? about 70-some-odd percent say it's on the wrong track. the job of donald trump is to tweak himself a little bit to harness that 70%. he hasn't quite got it because his personality is turning off some of those people. they're hesitant about him. he can fix that. he's got time. >> i want to get to this tweet from ma puff. i don't think that's that person's real name. harris, i'd vote for someone who represents the middle of both parties. why doesn't that candidate exist? >> because the system is rigged against it. we have two corrupt -- the

duopoly. made it almost impossible for the difficulty of independents to run or be recognized. a media that pretend that the largest political subgroup in america, party in america, which is independents, doesn't exist. it's only democrats and republicans. it is the washington beltway, and this is based on -- you know, a thesis and an antithesis. we have none of that. all we have is a tax on each other. one thesis, one antithesis, whichever way you want to cut it. the american people are looking for something bigger. but most of all, they are against the corruption against what they see. that's the word they use. the corruption in the system. every time he's touched it, his numbers go up. that's what saved him after wisconsin. >> i want to ask this. a lot of people, when they look at it, critics will say that was a tough week for trump. he just came off of one that the critics are saying that. now, if we take out the outlier, that "washington post" poll that

shows 12-digit lead for hillary, the we just look in the middle, it dials back to about four or five points between them. how can you have a week like that with a woman who's spending $43 million in negative ads and still only be 4% or 5%? obviously donald trump has tapped into something. and bernie sanders isn't leaving. he thinks he's tapped into it. >> we haven't gotten to that yet. the hillary problem is uniting her party. trump has united the republicans basically. >> what is it that's resonating? you talk about it's got to change. bernie's not leaving. they both are at the other end. >> something out of the same trough from opposite ends. >> i just quoted you on that. the tpp. the democratic party just endorsed in their platform the trade bill. >> that he ran against. >> hillary's against that. >> if you believe that -- >> they can -- hillary got bernie sanders's vote. she's got elizabeth warren. the party is coalescing.

she's got far more staff. far more infrastructure. far more organization. >> doug, you know what your problem is? i hate to be rude to my friend. but you're living in the past. this election is not a traditional election. money, how many staffers you have in ohio. >> you're right. >> is that a big deal? >> yes! >> he had nothing in the primaries. nothing. and you sat here a year ago. you said jeb bush is going to be the nominee. >> because he had the money. >> and he's with hillary clinton, too. >> so what? >> maybe that's why he couldn't make it out of the primary if he were hillary clinton. we'll keep talking. i promise to keep talking with the camera on, right after this. isn't it time to let the real you shine through? introducing otezla, apremilast. otezla is not an injection, or a cream. it's a pill that treats plaque psoriasis differently. some people who took otezla saw 75% clearer skin after 4 months.

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>> it's very simple. he's going to frame the question, do you agree that the system in our country today, political, economic, all of it, is corrupt, and if you do, do you want to put someone we call crooked hillary in charge of it, or do you want to send an outsider in to blow it up and then clean it up. >> birthday boy? >> barack obama is at 56% approve. nobody else has got positive ratings. secretary clinton is going to run on his record. trash donald trump. and continue to hold a comfortable lead. >> pat? >> that's so absurd. >> oh, come on. >> you've got ten seconds. >> i want to address something. if hillary clinton was nearly -- almost assassinated, everyone in this audience would have heard about it and known about it. that happened last week to donald trump. many of you don't know and it got no coverage. because the press didn't want it. what's wrong with america is much deeper in this democracy, and it's a threat to the democracy. >> wow. okay.

happy birthday. >> thank you very much, harris. i appreciate it. >> even on twitter they know it's your birthday. great to have you. we'll talk more -- whoo, you always drop the knowledge. thanks for watching, everybody. i'll be back with you tomorrow at noon eastern for "outnumbered." >> previously on "legends and lies: the patriots"... >> there is no more justice left in britain than there is in hell! >> under our plan, we remain part of england. >> one part of the empire makes slaves of the other. >> our dead brethren, who were cruelly massacred! >> remember every detail. >> you are all found... not guilty.