>> reporter: dramatic video of the attackers as they launched a terror attack here, a horrific situation. that said, as you mentioned, turkish officials say that three attackers were from russia, uzbekistan and courage stand. we don't have their names, ids

or if they were living here in the country, in turkey or in istanbul, another part of the country, or if they traveled here either together or separately from another country or countries. so that, obviously, will likely be fleshed out over the coming days. that said though, as you also mentioned, sandra, turkish police carried out a number of raids in more than a dozen neighborhoods and areas here in istanbul detaining at this point at least 13 people and recovering evidence, firearms, weapons. and they say documentation linked to isis. now, no group has claimed responsibility at this point. however, turkish officials -- including the country's prime minister -- have been aamant in saying that this was linked and isis was, indeed, responsible for this. funerals for the 44 victims today, as you mentioned and i just confirmed that number with turkey's ministry of foreign affairs, there were some questions about that, but 44 people lost their lives. funerals were held for those

people today, and here at the airport there is a memorial on the second floor in the departures hall. pictures of some of the attackers -- or of some of the victims, rather, that died in the attack and also tables that are covered with flowers, covered with roses. i spoke with a worker here who was actually working in one of the duty-free be shops when the attack happened tuesday night. i asked him, of course, are you rattled, are you concerned. he said, well, yes. absolutely. he saw when the attacks happened. he took cover along with some of his colleagues and coworkers. but he said also while he remains rattled that they want to get back to work, they want to carry on as normal possibly as they can and here amid heightened security, obviously, we have police patrols and certainly an increased police presence. but as this gentleman was telling me, the worker here, says we want to try to get back to normal, as normal as things can be after tuesday's horror here at ataturk airport.

sandra? sandra: john huddy, thank you. meantime, cia director john brennan giving a chilling warning about isis. he says an attack like what just happened in turkey could happen here. listen. >> isis' ability to continue to prop pa gate its -- propagate its narrative as well as to incite and carry out these attacks, i think we still have a ways to go before we're able to say that we have made some significant progress against them. it would be surprising to me that isil is not trying to hit us both in the region as well as in our homeland. sandra: one day after secretary of state john kerry says something a little bit different about isis which he refers to as daish. >> it has been more than one year since daish has actually launched a full-scale military offensive, and that's because our coalition is moving forward relentlessly on every front.

now, yes, you can bomb an airport. you can blow yourself up. if you're desperate and if you know you're losing and you know you want to give up your life, then obviously you can do some harm. sandra: all right. so he says that they're desperate, but then we hear this warning today. david, there's such mixed signals coming out of this white house right now. >> well, as long as isis -- and we assume this is an isis attack, i guess that's an assumption even the turks are making now -- as long as isis is able to kill innocents, it's not losing. the people who are losing is the folks being killed. the countries that are losing are the countries being infiltrated. and that's why we have to figure out some way to deal with the infiltration, even including dealing with refugees. clearly, that is a problem in europe. it could be a problem here. already there are signs that it has been a problem here in terms of some of the people that have been rounded up. so we have to deal with the fact that they are winning as long as they kill innocents. they may be losing on the

battlefield with all that we have to bear in syria and iraq, but as long as they're killing innocents here and around the world -- sandra: and, kennedy, if their purpose is to calm fears, that's not happening. we've got this poll showing about 86% of people are nervous about our nation's ability to prevent these terror attacks. this is up from 50% in 2005. people are pretty confident that this is likely to happen right here on american soil. kennedy: yeah. we've seen these lone wolf attacks that are, you know, obviously isis-inspired. but these attacks in brussels, paris and now istanbul very coordinated and all very similar. so you have the director of the cia saying this is a real problem, don't be surprised if we see something like this in our country which is, obviously, cause for concern. but then the secretary of state saying the exact opposite, and that means there's a big leadership problem. because if you have two of your main operatives out there on separate messaging, that means that either you're not communicating effectively with people, or there's some sort of

mutiny happening. and brennan is in great disagreement with the white house. sandra: saying that he would be surprised, harris, if isis was not looking to hit the u.s. homeland. on that point when we asked the question are we winning or aren't we, here's another poll asking that very question. are we winning the war on terror? who is winning? the answer, u.s., 44% say the u.s. is winning this war on terror. that is down from what we saw in may 2010. harris: it's still tighter though. i mean, people are, you know, we have a lot of nationalism right now as we head into independence day. i think people want to believe the best. but, you know, i mean, because that's within the statistic tie there. are we winning or are we losing or are they winning. part of the problem is what kennedy's pointing to is there might be a narrative that some people don't like at the top. and so that's why we're getting our mixed messages. we need to know what the narrative is because maybe we won't like it either, and we have a vote in this.

we're at what's at stake. we are at stake. it's our people going to the nightclubs, traveling through these airports. there were americans in that airport in istanbul, but more important, there were human beings. and we're in this together. they're a member of nato, turkey. if there is a narrative with this administration, we need to know what it is. >> there are too many. harris: we immediate to create a safe space for someone to tell us what's going on. melissa: if you look at the anatomy of that attack, it's not one that could be prevented. it's not like, you know, these are -- it's just like, you know, what we've seen in other airports where they come into the front area before they've even cleared security. how far back can you put that perimeter in order to begin, you know, whether it is sniffing for explosives or weapons. i mean, people get the sense -- you always look for in the aftermath of a disaster like this how could it have been prevented, that's why we go to the gun debate. but with something like this,

all they have to do is come up to the curb where everyone's getting out of the car. harris: so, sandra, you mentioned something on the couch, and i asked some sources. you said, it's a crime scene, they've got their smartphones out. people have gone about their lives. pretty early on they knew exactly what you said, melissa, this was an attack that couldn't have been this warranted. this was like a swarm, in you will, and it's at the entrance of an airport. what, are we going to load people in the parking lot now? kennedy: it's also in turkey. erdogan has turned a complete blind eye to that porous border where terrorists have gone in and out of syria. so it really shouldn't come as a surprise. it's timed when israel is normalizing relations with turkey at this point. but i think turkey is so culpable, it is not a moderate ally. and now erdogan is lurching toward a form of fascism that should be very, very -- >> by the way, more than turning a blind eye, i was talking to a big cia guy who just passed away, his name is dewey consumer

age, a big guy in the cia, he said that erdogan's family was actually involved in buying and selling oil. and erdogan's son has a couple of oil tankers, he's a big guy in turkey in terms of dealing with oil. this cia guy in particular was convinced he was a part of it. but just to say one thing on john brennan which is that the cia, while kerry is suggesting that the momentum is in our favor against isis, specifically what brennan said yesterday, the cia chief, is that the momentum is working in favor of isis. so that's the different narrative. you have the white house coming out with the narrative saying the momentum's going down, and the cia saying the momentum is increasing against us. who would you believe? harris: is that because they have such an outreach online and that they're seen as, and forgive the term, the cool kids on the web? you know, join us. sandra: to be fair, john brennan also said we're making progress -- >> on the battlefield. not in terrorism. sandra: but we still have a long way to go.

quickly though, yesterday this couch got heated when we saw the president step up and his reaction at in this very moment in time. there was a lot of criticism of his tone. julie roginsky, i think, adamantly said that that's not important. what do you make of president obama's -- >> of course. he's the commander in chief. of course it's important. and to the extent that there's a divide between the president and one of his generals, that's very dangerous for a country that is in the middle of the crosshairs. you were talking about how the terrorists -- how the officials in turkey were learning something based on all the cameras and everything. you better believe every attack the terrorists learn a lot. they learn how to do it more effectively and in a way that makes it more difficult to protect ourselves. this is a moment where everybody has to be speaking the same tone, and they're not. harris: well, we learned just how sophisticated this one was yesterday. sandra: stunning revelations in the hillary clinton e-mail scandal. her closest aide, huma abedin,

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♪ ♪ harris: glad you're watching "outnumbered." stunning new information from top hillary clinton aide huma abedin's six hours of testimony on clinton's e-mail scandal. the conservative judicial group judicial watch is suing, yesterday abedin admitted the private e-mail server may have interfered with hillary clinton's ability to do her job. she gave one example where clinton missed a call from a foreign minister because aides did not receive her e-mails on the matter. a clinton campaign spokesperson said this about that, quote: judicial watch represents everything that is wrong with our political system, and just look at this latest round of colleagues contradicted by their own transcripts. it's truly disgraceful. end quote. your thought, melissa?

melissa: one thing becomes obvious, everything we were told early on from hillary clinton about this is not accurate. when she talked about she handed over all the e-mails, she didn't. now we see this story about how it was so much more convenient, and that was something maybe a lot of americans could relate to. we realize now it was inconvenient, that there were a lot of problems with doing it this way. i think the e-mail that said the most was the one where they said, you know, we really have to analyze how this system works and make sure we design it in a way where we control all the information. and you wonder what is it that you had that you wanted to protect, that you wanted to make sure couldn't be, you know, subpoenaed or pulled by the press or freedom of information act? what were you talking about that you wanted to make sure you kept secret? i think that all has to do with foundation and things that she was paid for through speeches. harris: so you're going to trade out the c-word, convenient, and put in the world control. melissa: yes. harris: sometimes people put systems in place, like security systems.

not for what is being done, but for what might be done. for instance, maybe there was a plan of action just the way someone operates, that they want to have something there. are you following me? >> i am, indeed. although i would throw out an o-word, which is obstruction of justice. this is a paper that she signed, this is not the specific paper, but it's a copy. it's an affidavit that swears under perjury, under her oath that she turned over all the e-mails. this is something she signed back in august. we know know from huma's e-mails there were some government e-mails that she didn't turn over. sandra: a lot. >> i'm just wondering if there is a charge of obstruction of justice that may be pursued by the fbi and eventually, perhaps -- god knows -- but by the somewheres he's department -- justice department. harris: here's what happens. while i do not know what information may be spoifns for the purposes of this lawsuit, i have directed all my e-mails, blah, blah, blah. so i've been told by attorneys

sometimes that can be fudged and used as a loophole. sandra: the convenience factor, we know the narrative all along was this was for convenience and to consolidate her devices, but huma abedin also admitting she accessed this private e-mail from her ipad. so that kind of dispels the truth on that. and then huma abedin in the testimony saying i always tried to do the right thing and tried to be on my state.gov blackberry. that was my practice. her aide knew better -- kennedy: her aide also uses the term do the right thing, which is insinuating that using the clinton e-mail account is doing the wrong thing. and she also said she had a hard time communicating with her boss when the private server was being hacked. you know, huma abedin said that -- harris: it was tough. kennedy: we didn't hear anything from bryan pagliano because he pleaded the fifth 125 times -- harris: just recently. he pleaded before then too.

kennedy: yes. but we also heard in that ig report they never asked permission. and that also contradicts what she said earlier about her e-mail -- >> patterns, patterns. a lot of patterns. harris: melissa, what i would point to now is huma abedin tried to do the right thing. was she being told not to? melissa: that's a great point. growing questions about a conflict of interest in the hillary clinton e-mail scandal, this after it was revealed that loretta lunch met privately with bill clinton tuesday for about a half hour onboard a private plane. lynch's agency is handling the hillary clinton e-mail investigation, of course, but she says her conversation with the former president was primarily social and didn't discuss any matter pending before the department. >> i was landing, he was headed out. he did come over and say hello and speak to my husband and myself and talk about his grandchildren and his travels and things like that. so that was the extent of that.

melissa: but when asked whether the meeting was appropriate considering the e-mail investigation, lynch refused to directly answer the question. and this comes just weeks after president obama met with lynch the very same day that he endorsed hillary clinton. kennedy, you know how those conversations go. so you come onboard, maybe he didn't say anything. maybe it was just his presence, he's coming on, he's taking her temperature or sometimes, you know, it's the charm offense. you remind someone how much they like you -- kennedy: what are the chances they're on the tarmac at exact same time? if i were an ethical attorney, not to mention an ethical attorney general of the united states of america, and the spouse of the person that my department was investigating walked toward my private -- why is she on, not on a commercial aircraft? but if he was walking toward, i would make sure that i locked up all the doors just for the sake of not seeming like there was any impropriety at all.

>> well, you have to do that. harris: you know who would be participating in the locking? it would be all of the security around both of them because there's no way that you have a chance meeting with a former president and a sitting aide -- sandra: come on, kennedy. she said they just talked about golf and grandchildren. >> great. >> by the way, even democrats say this stinks. a lot of democrats in congress are saying that, david axlerod, other democrats. it's law 101. if you are a prosecutor or somebody investigating another perp, you do not meet with that person in private. she has to recuse herself from this investigation. at this point it's absolute. of she's just got to do it. this is too bad. harris: think about it. if your spouse were under investigation by the fbi and being looked at potentially by the doj? would your spouse be able to meet with loretta lynch? melissa: i'd be desperate to get that done, but -- kennedy: let's say if i was on

trial for something and the prosecutor was standing in the courthouse and my husband went over to the prosecutor, how quickly would the judge declare a mistrial? melissa: there you go. and local news said he waited for her to arrive. that was -- kennedy: offer her a deal in her administration. [inaudible conversations] sandra: brand i new fox news polling shows hillary clinton is beating donald trump. wait until you see the results among those very interested in voting. isn't everyone very interested in voting? you should be. and less than three weeks from the party's convention, trump taking on his gop rivals who still haven't endorsed him. the consequences he said they should face and whether he's right about that. ♪ ♪ e rheumatoid arthritis, and you're talking to your doctor about your medication... this is humira. this is humira helping to relieve my pain and protect my joints from further damage. this is humira helping me go further.

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♪ ♪ kennedy: this is "outnumbered." welcome back to the couch. we saved a spot for you. [laughter] brand new fox news polling

showing hillary clinton beating donald trump by six points. the former secretary of state leads 44-38 percent. earlier this month clinton only had a three-point edge, but when it comes to those who are extremely or very interested in voting, the gap shrinks to just two points, 45-43%. so, melissa, you brought up a point. who's not extremely interested in voting this election cycle? melissa: you know, a lot of times i hear very heated conversations among, you know, celebrities, whoever else, and i always laugh because i think you are not going to bother to go to the polls. the day that people are voting. i just know they're not going to actually go vote. i do think the numbers are going in the wrong direction for trump no matter what polling you look at. if you aggregate them, because we're so deep in it, you know, he's down by five or six no matter where you look at it. so it's definitely going in the wrong direction for him, and you wonder is that about david and i talk about this a lot, he's been on prompter, he's been more

controlled, that was supposed to help. is it helping or not helping? >> i think it was also when he focused on trump university and sort of seemed to be putting his interests ahead of the interests of the country. that really hit him hard, and hillary saw it. you've got to give her credit, she saw that, in fact, he was weak on that point. she pressed a lot of ads in that position, and i think she made headway. it's bad, but it's not at all disastrous when you look at some of the other things that you were talking about. kennedy: well, some of the factors, too, when you introduce some of these third party candidates like gary johnson and dr. jill stein, governor johnson has 10% and dr. stein not folded into this poll. but when you do introduce her to voters, she gets 3 or 4%. and when you've got a six-point race and excited progressives who now no longer have -- >> all progressives are excitable. [laughter] kennedy: and they're probably included in that extremely interested in voting number. i think that a lot of that doesn't bode well for hillary clinton. what do you think?

sandra: well, and it showed it in the polls. it siphoned votes away from hillary clinton more than donald trump. but, hey, as far as those candidates that are going to make best or the right decisions for the country, that was in this national poll, and it showed that hillary clinton won over their support 48% to 42% for donald trump. but the momentum is what everybody's talking about, whether or not that's a cliche word to use. trump has lost ground with republicans eight points since may. whites without degrees, ten points since may. men, nine points he's down since may. the trend is definitely -- >> the trend is down, there's no question. he's got -- i mean, we're going to talk about this shortly, but it depends what happens at the convention itself. he's got to get the convention to be his platform, because he's been losing a lot of republicans. he's been losing his base. you cannot afford to lose your base. harris: it's hard for us not to get away from this point. it's hard not to talk about donald trump and where he is in the polling and not talk about the people who have had the greatest amount of effect on

him, and those are the people who are supposed to be inside his tent. when you shoot inside the tent, some of those bullets can graze you. i would say this, though. as we get into summer season, people are anticipating quite the show at the convention. and i think people are just like, look, you're polling me to death here. [laughter] i'm going to do what i'm going to do, and i've already -- some of them maybe haven't made up their minds. they're going to enjoy their july 4th holiday, and on the flip side of this as we really go into that convention, i think people will start to make up their minds. their message is not negative, have you noticed that? it is not a negative message. it may not be a message that people even understand or know about but there is something kind of positive. kennedy: they're dealing with electorate in much greater numbers than ever before so disenfranchised with the two major party presumptive nominees, you have a huge portion of the voting public who

is now looking around, very interested. >> gary gave up marijuana. that might help. that might help. the weed. okay. melissa: along those lines quinnepiac is ringing my husband's cell phone off the hook and he won't pick it up. at least screw with them. answer it. but he doesn't even answer it. harris: we'll see after the holidays people pick back up. republican convention is less than three weeks away. donald trump is stepping up criticism of his former gop rivals who yet to endorse him. his words have been tough. here is what he told an audience yesterday. >> they signed a pledge saying they will abide, saying they will back the candidate of the party. and now they sit back and the pledge is out there and the press doesn't even go after him on that. they broke their word. in my opinion they should never be allowed to run for public

office again because what they did was disgraceful. harris: on first part he is right, they did sign that. >> they did indeed. harris: the tough talk comes days after donald trump said would block anyone who has not endorsed him getting a speaking spot at convention. it is quite a list. jeb bush. i don't think i was shocked by this ted cruz, john kasich. john kasich is above of ohio where the convention is going to be. lindsey graham. scott walker. carly fiorina all on the list. we should mention while senator marco rubio said he will vote for trump he has not officially endorsed him either. sandra: let me ask you, if trump was in the position to endorse one of the other candidates would he have honored the pledge. >> i think he would have. he knows how to play ball. he needs politicians. sandra: he says i would have honored the pledge if the roles were have reversed i wouldn't have been, yell it from the loudest building but he would have honored the pledge he says. harris: this is where i think,

money melissa, where the "art of the deal" comes into play. donald trump made deals and talks about it with very difficult people, oppositional views on just about anything but he can sit down and make a deal. is the gop missing an opportunity here? you know i am not sure he wants those endorsements. he made his bones -- harris: that is having headwind inside of your tent are two different things. kennedy: no i would say i think that, sound bite he just did where he talked about them not honoring it made him look petty. makes look like sour grapes. in terms of getting their endorsement, i don't know that he wants it. he needs more help within the party but this softer donald trump of the past few weeks hasn't really helped him. >> not one of those things that disqualifies someone running for public office. you have people running in 2020. it is shaping up to be a crowded field. certainly ted cruz and scott walker got out early enough to merge with his

dignity. you know those people want to run in 2020. does trump endorsement hurt them. harris: line of the show came from kennedy. the list from 2020 already shaping up to be crowded field. how can that be, david? >> the thing really bothering a lost republicans now, particularly people like paul ryan, free market republican is talking about trade. donald trump's trade week and people like paul ryan really are concerned that he is not only backing off or laying low on trade but doubling up on the idea of sanctions, of tariffs, of forcing some kind of a new taxes on countries he thinks are manipulating their currency. everybody everybody manipulates their currency. these guys, paul ryan, needs them badly and needs other people that could come to the convention to say, he is my guy. i will go through with him through hell and high water. he may not get them because of his trade talk. that is a problem.

kennedy: said he would go at it alone. acting like it won't bother him. john kasich finished on podium, one the last three people running for president on republican side. on the riser. he is a republican governor of ohio with a republican national convention is taking place. if he doesn't speak, i'm sorry, nothing makes sense anymore and all bets are off. harris: thank you, kennedy. i thought it was obvious point too. i don't know. look, you invite people to your house and you go out the backdoor, say good luck with that. i'm going to do take-out. melissa: there has to be a deal there. there has to be something john kasich wants. he is politician at end of the day. all the guys -- doesn't have to be that. harris: might have to be that. you don't know what john kasich wants. >> would he take the vp spot? would kasich take it though? he says no. melissa: i don't believe him. harris: i mean the sky is flat,

yes? i don't know. kennedy: especially in 2016. harris: house republicans may have issued their benghazi report but they say they still have unfinished business on the matter. why warning the investigation into the terror attacks is hardly over. the key witness who they heard from yesterday, his jets were ready to respond the day four americans lost their lives to savages. stay close. ♪ with the right steps,

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yesterday, as long as we're being paid we have obligation to work. he is a pilot alleges that he sat on the ground and could have responded and we owe it to everybody to run out every single he lead and this person also was subject to cross-examination. the democrats are in the room and they can question him too if they bother to show up. >> this is happening as we're learning how long it took hillary clinton to call benghazi survivors. according to top aide huma abedin, she waited seven weeks to call survivors. she only called one out of 35 because abedine told her to. this contradicts what hillary told her in a congressional hearing. as long as we prevent any other americans getting killed, to me that is what the investigation is b americans died. that means there was a failure. what was the failure? how did it happen and how do we

prevent it from happening again as long as those questions remain, we can't move on. sandra: very simple question. you would ask everybody on the couch or listening a the home. do you still have questions what went on last night? i'm thinking you would say yes. did the report reveal anything new? yes. they talked to people on the ground. senator kelly ayote in new hampshire showed the ignored requests for additional security in the state department disregarded repeated requests for increased security. somebody has to answer why. and those families still have unanswered questions. how about them? so for hillary clinton right now to say it is time to move on, not only is she wrong but that is incredibly insensitive. >> not only family of those but everybody with a member of family in the armed services. particularly marine families, they are stationed at these emba ises is. they want to know what happened. until they're absolutely sure what happened and the lives of their loved ones are not in

jeopardy now they don't want it to end. harris: it is more important than ever just from the perspective knowing what the leaders were doing at the time. i want to know where president obama was and what he was doing at time. i would like with regard to calling families, what are the politics at play where you don't call somebody for seven weeks who lost a loved one in this way? what's going on that you don't pick up the phone or send send an email on your private server? adam housley doing investigation with people on the ground you just mentioned i have a sviano were ready. that goes against what leon panetta said. kennedy: if president and secretary of defense said they need to be mobilized. why did everyone below them violate the chain. in the president of the united states telling you to mobilize,

why didn't that happen? did secretary clinton have something to do with that. harris: a question about a stand-down order. >> i want to talk about the tone deafness you were talking about heiress. yesterday, and we heard josh earnest, and hillary talk about the how we wasted $7 million. $7 million, taxpayer funds is one 10:00 amount of money we spent on president obama's vacation. isn't it worth the live of one american? at least that. to put a dollar amount on the lives of americans seems so crass to me. sandra: melissa: i watched you get upset about this. i don't know if people know you are a father after marine. you are passionate because you have a child out there and a wife at home who worries about a child. he is not a child. a grown man. >> in his 30s. he is our boy. melissa: you get so upset about this because you know how would you feel if you were one of those parent in that awful

situation. when she says it is time to move on, i watched you, that breaks your heart. for those parents it is not time to move on. >> the money, the money. you can't put a price tag on my son. harris: what we spent, from what you have done the research on the president's vacations. i would also say this sandra and i are children of veterans too. you don't have to have deep connection with the military to care about what is going on. our diplomats walk democracy around the planet. that is what they do. it is our job as american sit currency to make your our government protects our value system washing around the planet. that is very important. they asked for extra sandbags and extra weapons. why weren't those requests given? kennedy: she moved on right away. she moved on she had to be told and instructed and districted to do something so basic to reach out, by phone, to one of the surviving victims. >> two of the people who were killed in benghazi were

diplomats. you're absolutely right. it wasn't just marines or soldiers. harris: anybody with them. >> amid growing questions how to fight the global terror threat the united states marine corps dropping the word man from more than a dozen job titles to be more gender neutral. is political correctness or are these changes helping women? we'll debate it next. ♪ you don't let anything keep you sidelined. that's why you drink ensure. with 9 grams of protein and 26 vitamins and minerals. for the strength and energy to get back to doing... ...what you love. ensure. always be you.

harris: more "outnumbered" in just a moment. let's go to jon scott with what is coming up in second hour of "happening now." hey, jon. >> hey, harris. the death toll rising in the istanbul airport attack. 44 now dead. donald trump is laying out an aggressive plan on trade and the war on terror this week. it's led to attacks from the right and mr. trump is not taking that quietly, speaking out against groups like the u.s. chamber of commerce. more on that ahead. plus hillary clinton's been on a big fund-raising push this week with visits to california and new york. she will campaign with president obama in north carolina for the

first time this election next week. that comes as there is another headache for the campaign with word bill clinton held a private meeting with u.s. attorney general loretta lynch. what was that all about? we'll get into it. "happening now." harris: we've been talking about that. waiting at airport for her to arrive. that is interesting. we'll be watching, you thank you sandra: update to a story we brought you earlier this year. marine corps removing man from 19 job titles to make the service more gender neutral. a review was ordered in january following defense department announcement all military jobs would be open to women. the marines will take title like basic infantrymen to basic infantry marine. reconnaissance man becomes reconnaissance marine.

artillery man becomes artillery marine. they make plans to change 20 of its titles. air force declined the opportunity. speaking to man on the couch who is father after marine. what do you think of this? >> one title marine is most proud of rifleman. as long as that doesn't change. the main thing if it doesn't get in the way of combat it is okay but that is the bottom line. anything that has a marine taking their mind offer of combat is a mistake. and if to the extent that any of these new rules do that, you can't allow it to happen. the only job of a marine is to fight in combat and keep us safe. that is the job of the marine. that is the absolute ultimate. anything that distracts them, him or her from that job should be ignored or taken away. sandra: they did comment specifically on rifleman, names were not changed like rifleman are steeped in marine corps history.

some are not changing. >> exactly. kennedy: i worry it will be spread to the word of superheroes. bat, spider, iron, very incomplete. the navy and green navy initiative which costs millions and millions and millions of dollars, it has been an absolute failure. there are other areas where political correctness has been very costly. sandra: do you think this will help women in the military to not have the man attached to a lot of these titles and just say marines? melissa: this might. this one doesn't bother me. you look at headline and into the headlines and see how outrage just it is. changing gunman to gunner is that big of a deal? >> again, bottom line if it doesn't interfere with their job in combat it is okay. to the extent anybody is thinking in their mind other than trying to shoot the person in your sights, that's a

problem. sandra: put yourselves into the shoes of a woman who is a marine. are they doing this because they actually did feel uncomfortable and that was not gender neutral or do they think it's a problem. harris: you've seen "anchorman." we might be called anchorman? i give these women a lot more credit. >> good point. harris: they're there to do the job, if they do the job, let them shine. i'm sure they don't care what they get called. not for nothing, man turns into marine. if they have a shortening like, you know, whatever the previous is, it doesn't change the acronym, right? they don't have to relabel anything. i really give these women so much more credit, it is about the job, they're nailing it. really, do we need to be called anchorettes? >> i love that name. do we learn a song. harris: we have to learn dance numbers. melissa: you obviously want to. look at the arm motions. >> we have a audience today, i'm

so avoiding make any comments. there is nothing i could say that wouldn't get me in trouble. i'm keeping my mouth shut. kennedy: lea gabrielle at the naval academy was proud to bear the name midshipman, it was steeped in history. she didn't have a problem. it was her take. to more "outnumbered" in just a minute. viously, ohhh... but with added touches you can't get everywhere else, like claim free rewards... or safe driving bonus checks. even a claim satis in means protection plus unique extras only from an expert allstate agent. it's good to be in, good hands. [ park rides, music and crooooh!unds ] [ brakes screech ]

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