jon: there is more to come. we will be back here in an hour. "outnumbered" starts right now. sandra: this is a fox news alert. a major announcement about hillary clinton's e-mail scandal and who is going to be making a call that could ultimately impact the presidential election. this is "outnumbered." i'm sandra smith. here today, julie roginsky, radio talk show host meghan mccain, fox business network's dagen mcdowell, and today's #oneluckyguy, former cia covert operations officer, mike baker is here, and a great day to have you, sir. you are "outnumbered." >> thank you very much. i'm happy to be here. julie: he was in the business of lying for a living. dagen: for all those years. can you tell us who's lying now, mike? >> but for patriotic reasons and for the good of the nation. julie: or so you say. >> or was i lying just then? [laughter] sandra: we're going to immediate your perspective and expertise on this.

attorney general loretta lynch says she will accept the determinations and findings of career prosecutors and lawyers as well as the fbi when it comes to whether to charge hillary clinton or anyone else in the e-mail scandal. this coming after lynch met privately with bill clinton on her jet. a meeting that sparked a lot of questions about how impartial she really can be. we're also awaiting white house reaction to lynch's comments. chief intelligence correspondent catherine herridge is live from washington for us right now with al so much happening, catherine. >> reporter: well, thank you, sandra. speaking in aspen this morning, the attorney general said she fully expected to accept the recommendations of the fbi director and career prosecutors, and given that statement leaves room to reject their findings, lynch was pressed to clarify. >> i wouldn't even be briefed on what the findings were or what the actions going forward would be. and while i don't have a role in those findings, in coming up

with those findings or making those recommendations as to how to go forward, i'll be briefed on it, and i will be accepting their recommendations. >> reporter: the meeting between attorney general lynch and bill clinton at an arizona airport only came to light after a local phoenix reporter had a tip and lynch was pressed to explain. today lynch insisted her plan had always been to go with the especially ares, but the back -- recommendations, but the backlash meant she had to go public. >> you'd be well within your right to say, um, get off my plane. [laughter] what are you doing here? do you, do you regret not telling the former president of the united states -- [laughter] to leave the premises? [laughter] >> so, well, look, as i've said, i may have viewed it in a certain light, but the issue is how does it impact the work that i do and the work that the department of justice does. i certainly wouldn't do it again. [laughter] and, you know, because i think it has cast a shadow over what it should not.

>> reporter: as fox first reported, the fbi's criminal investigation into hillary clinton's use of private e-mail as secretary of state has expanded to look at whether the possible intersection of clinton foundation work and state department business may have violated public corruption laws. bill clinton is the prime minister of the foundation and -- the president of the foundation and at the very least a witness to the activities. this morning the fbi director blew past reporters' questions. >> mr. director, any reaction to the doj's response about the e-mail investigation? >> any idea on when recommendations may come with the hillary e-mails? >> reporter: this morning a well-placed fbi source told fox news that agents are livid about the lynch and clinton meetings in phoenix since bill clinton at the very least may be a a witness in this public corruption probe. in aspen the moderator tries to close out their discussion on a much lighter note today. >> what didn't eric holder tell you about this job?

[laughter] what's the one thing you wish he had told you? [laughter] >> the lock on the plane door was. [laughter] >> reporter: i mean, this -- these events in the last 4 hours may well -- 24 hours may well change the outcome of the fbi investigation and whether any charges are pursued and how that will be handled. one analyst said to fox this morning it does look hike bill clinton just cut away hillary clinton's political safety net, taking lynch effectively out of the equation, sandra. sandra: catherine, we just got word that we reached out to the clintons' camp for response to this, we received back no comment. do you believe that -- it's a friday, heading into a long holiday weekend. do you believe that they're, ultimately, going to continue to be pressed for some sort of comment or reaction to this, especially hillary clinton's camp? >> reporter: well, i mean, i don't want to speculate a lot for people except to say that

what has happened in the last 24 hours, i mean, it has never happened before in washington. we have the presumptive democratic nominee the subject of a criminal investigation not only into classified information, but public corruption, and then we have their spouse, the past president, looking to intervene or at least apply some pressure. this is no small thing, and it certainly is a story that we have been following for over a year at fox news channel. but now it's kind of broken the floodgates with the rest of the media, and they're going to have to respond to many of these questions, because we're coming up against the convention. in and there were to be action, this would be the ideal window for it to happen by the justice department and by the fbi. sandra: all right. katherine her ridge, thank you. mike baker, your reaction. >> well, there's an awful lot to the plow through here in a short period of time. you could argue, some will argue that, basically, what she's done, come out and said is she's

going to do what she's supposed to do typically anyway. which is take the recommendations of the infeint investigators -- independent investigators, the nonpartisan investigators and director of the bureau. so, you know, one part of me says is this news? you know, but she's getting out ahead of this. obviously, i mean, i like her. i think it's a shame she's not the candidate for the democrats -- sandra: was it a misjudgment. >> >> oh, it was a mistake. she clearly understands it was a mistake. but at the same time, again, i'm a cynic, right? so i don't believe as it was initially tried to be portrayed this was a happenstance encounter between two private jets on the tarmac. there's too much logistics, her security detail, his security detail, the flight plans that have to be logged and then they just drop it all and say, oh, this is great, let's just sit here and chat. sandra: clearly, it was no coincidence, julie. hover relate that inch -- loretta lynch was going to say today she was going to accept

recommendations looked like a clean-up job. julie: the larger problem for me, i don't understand. talk about somebody who's doing everything possible for the fourth or fifth time to hurt his wife's campaign. this was a completely nonsensical, stupid thing of to have done for him. and what i don't understand, and i'm sure her campaign is furious, i'm sure she's furious, and, you know, he is a gregarious and charming man. he's probably the most social politician we've ever had. it doesn't surprise me that, of course, he wants to come out and say hi to everybody he can. this is the guy that works the rope line after everybody else goes home, but in this case, what are you thinking, president clinton? why would you bring this back into the news? and that's exactly -- sandra: and donald trump sort of -- >> also somebody on his team that travels with him who's from her campaign. julie: i have no idea. >> you would think there had to be some conversation. meghan: i've traveled with my father, there's so many staff involved, there's so many logistics. the idea that he just got off

his plane and his chief of staff or someone was like, hmm, maybe not the greatest thing to do while she's investigating your wife. i found the laughing distasteful. this is not funny. dagen: you know what? they giggled the entire time. it was very nervous. meghan: the public confidence in hillary clinton from liberals and conservatives already everyone has the impression that the clintons are of the understanding that the regular rule ares don't apply to them, and the idea that both of them would be laughing at it -- dagen: right. that's the issue, is that it goes to how many people feel, particularly about president clinton, he doesn't feel that the rules apply to him. and he gets on the plane -- and, by the way, they spoke to up to half an hour about their kids? i can have a deep conversation about entire old testament in half an hour. [laughter] let's find out what they really talked about. let's talk about bill clinton which is something that catherine herridge brought up, that bret baier raised earlier in the day. bill clinton is a potential target, he is a potential

witness, and he is intricately involved in the second part of this fbi investigation dealing with corruption at the clinton foundation. i mean, just some of the stuff that we know from "the wall street journal"'s reporting about what was going on there, that there were more than two dozen companies and groups, one foreign government that paid bill clinton a total of $8 million to give speeches around the time they had matters in front of hillary clinton's state department. about 15 of 'em gave money to the clinton foundation, and in several instances state department actions benefited those that paid -- sandra: all right. let's talk about the impact, julie, that this is going to have on the election. donald trump on with hannity last night reacting to that meeting. listen. >> well, when i first heard that yesterday afternoon, i actually thought they were joking. i thought the people that told me were, you know, i said, no way. there's no way that's going to happen. and it happened. i am just, i'm flabbergasted by it. i think it's amazing. i've never seen anything like that before. sandra: an honest reaction that

a lot of other people had when they found out that loretta lynch and bill clinton stepped off their planes to talk to each other. julie: i must be high because i can't believe i'm agreeing with donald trump right now, but he's right about this. ultimately, at the end of the day he never, ever, ever should have done this. and loretta lynch -- listen, i understand. the former president, your former boss is coming up to your plane and says, knock, knock, i want to come in. i understand the human impulse to not turn him away because he is the former president, and you're a former employee of his. having said all of that, she should have. she should have done the right thing and said, i'm sorry, mr. president, as much as i would love to see you, it's inappropriate. my department is investigating certain matters -- sandra: he would have understood. dagen: the timing, the state department two days after this meeting has filed to they court-ordered release of e-mails from a freedom of information act request for 27 months. it's four of hillary clinton's aides related to the clinton

foundation, so they won't come out until potentially october of 2018 which would be roughly almost in the middle of her term. >> and that take us us deep into 2018, obviously, if they do that. i don't think they're going to be able to get away with that now, not on the heels of this. anybody who understands the logistics of a candidate or former president moving about, the attorney general, the idea that she was shocked and surprised by him knocking on the door, i mean, again, i don't want to disappear down a paranoid rabbit hole of one world conspiracies -- sandra: that's where you live. >> it's a very familiar rabbit hole. but the point being that she -- i don't want to -- this is conspiracy, i know. but there may be an indication already as to where this thing is going to go. so at the end of the day, this is a no-harm, no-foul for her to the say i'm going to accept the recommendations because there's already signaling as to what those recommendations are going to be. i have a hard time believing, and i like her.

again, i think she's well experienced, and she's proven herself to be, you know, nonpartisan a number of times in her career. i have a hard time believing, though, she's going to say i'm going to throw it to the wind now because i made this mistake with this one meeting. i'm going to step off, and if they come forward and say we should indict and bring charges, i'm going to just go with it. meghan: if you're bernie sanders right now, and i've been highly critical of his campaign, i would be on every show possible saying this is why i'm still in, this is why i'm still doing it. this woman could get indicted. look what her husband's doing, he's trying to grease the wheels to make sure nothing happens legally. bernie sanders should definitely stay in -- dagen: president obama's going to be on the campaign trail with her next week, vice president biden's campaigning for her. what did they know or what -- julie: i have a hard time believing, however, that james comey who we all agree is an impartial person, whether he recommended that they indict if

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sandra: this is a fox news alert. new details on who was behind the triple suicide bombing at istanbul's busiest airport. house homeland committee chairman michael mccall says the notorious chechnyan extremist masterminded the terror attack. we're also getting a new image of suspects, smiling and seemingly relaxed, captured moments before the trio unleashed a horrific wave of death and destruction tuesday night. turkish media say authorities

have id'd two of them. john huddy is live outside the airport in istanbul with the very latest. hey, or -- hey, john. >> reporter: good morning -- good afternoon, rather. you know, the images are absolutely haunting because as we know now, the attackers carried out the bloodbath here at ataturk airport tuesday night. as you mentioned, you see them smiling in one of the shots just before unleashing the terror here. and we also are seeing the newly-released surveillance videos, opening fire, people literally scrambling for their lives. another one in a hallway opening fire point blank range at what we now know was a plain clothes police officer. this as we're learning more details and information about the attack and the possible coordination. you mentioned the chechnyan rebel. akhmed chatayev is believed to have coordinated the attacks, recruiting the three attackers

to or carry out the assault on the airport here. chatayev was a chechnyan warlord who security official, just some background here, we've heard about him a lot, they say that he became an isis recruiter and served for isis' ministry of war. well, the hunt is on for him at this point. he may even be here in turkey according to our sources. this as we've been learning more about the attackers. turkish officials say that one was from the dagestan region of russia and that two others from former soviet republics uzbekistan and courage stand. what we learned is they rented out an apartment in a working class part of istanbul, but it's unclear how long they were living there and from where they came from.being told they may he come from the spring from syria. now, that's not necessarily out of the question. it's certainly possible because isis militants have been able to the flow freely across the border for some time now, and we've heard a lot about that. in fact, five isis militants were recently arrested along the

border. so that has been happening, and, of course, that said, police have been carrying out raids. they carried out raids overnight into the early morning yesterday arresting 13 people and again overnight into this morning arresting another 11 people. and you can imagine that they are being questioned at this point and more raids and more arrests are certainly possible, one can at least presume. so this on the ground here, the airport remains reopened, it's been that way since wednesday morning. there's certainly a heightened security presence. and particularly since because we're going into the final weekend of the holy month of ramadan, isis has vowed to commit more acts of terror as we saw, and turkish officials maintain that isis, all signs and all links go to isis as far as carrying out the attack here tuesday night at ataturk airport in which 44 people were killed and more than 230 others woulded. back to you guys. sandra: john huddy, thank you.

mike, to see those images of who we now know were the killers smiling, walking care-free as it appeared going to the airport that day to kill those people. >> yeah. we've seen that in other footage from other attacks in the past, you know? they look calm, they look relaxed. i mean, they're kind of in a zone at that point. they're in the dead zone, and they're about to launch. you know, and no surprise really that, i mean, statistically speaking that they're from the former soviet union, chechnya and uzbekistan and kyrgyzstan. over the past few years that part of the world has contributed, you know, more foreign fighters to the islamic state other than tunisia and saudi arabia. so that's not necessarily a surprise. but, you know, we ask ourselves when something like this happens, i mean, from a counterterrorism perspective if you've been involved in operations long enough, you don't look at it and get emotional. you don't look at it and get angry. you're frustrated in a sense because you understand it never

ends, and it doesn't stop. part of this is to educate the public. look, this is -- i don't want to call it the new normal because that sounds defeatist, but we live in a different world now. and so anybody who looks at the ataturk operation or brussels or paris or orlando and says, well, it's a failure of law enforcement, it's a failure of intelligence doesn't understand how this thing is played. people who talk about this as a failure has never been involved in an operations, never been involved in military intel or law enforcement. we're not going to stop every one of these. julie: yeah. let me also add the russians have some blood on their hands when it comes to what's going on with the chechnyans. vladimir putin has been pulling the strings there, i don't know who's pulling whose strings -- >> putin's in charge, definitely. julie: i'm to not so sure who's got what on who. either way, chechnya has become a hotbed region for a reason, it's because the russians have

brutalized it, and they have allowed it to resist. >> yeah, but the chechnyan fighters, it's not exactly like they've been put upon and they're just rebels fighting for freedom. julie: no question. no question. but much like the afghanistan invasion in the '70s bred what is now al-qaeda in the same way that putin is now breeding all these extremists. so the reason i say -- you're right, we don't pay enough attention to what the russians are doing and their involvement. we focus on syria, on the sinai, on libya, we don't focus on the former soviet states, and as you said, it is so crucial to be aware of. when we're talking about vans of people coming from different countries, look at the russians, look at what they've done in the former soviet union. dagen: this soviet extremist, chechnyan extreme list, chatayev, this get toss the point of the frustration we feel in this country. it's the language that the administration uses.

when we were hearing john kerry talk about the islamic state is getting desperate. but with this particular isis lieutenant, he was designated back in the fall, in october as a terrorist by both the treasury department and the u.n. security council for supporting isis. >> just in october of this past year. dagen: right. i know, just in october. and the administration wants to brag about the bombing campaign that's been going on in the last year, but we knew that he directly commanded 130 militants. he was an organizer and masterminder of planned terror attacks of russian interests abroad, so it always begs the question of what are we doing? what are our allies doing overseas? turkey's a member of nato. how are we coordinating -- sandra: what about that, meghan? we've seen the response from the white house, from president obama on this. he's been criticized for somewhat of a lack of response. and john kerry the other day saying this was an act of desperation on the part of these terrorists. meghan: i mean, we can go back to them calling isis the jv team and saying it's contained.

he spent 90 seconds talking about turkey, you know, with the prime minister of canada. the question -- i actually have a question for you, mike. marco rubio, of all people, three days before the attack said that he wouldn't be traveling to turkey -- >> right. meghan: and there was apparently a terror alert -- sandra: i'm going to wreak in real -- break in real quick. we want to get to the white house, the press briefing, response to loretta lynch and her announcement today. josh earnest. >> and they will reach a conclusion based on that evidence and nothing else. that's the president's expectation about how this should be handled. i think the attorney general in her most recent comments indicated that that was her expectation ab about how this will be handled. but i'll leave it to her to describe what role she will play and what process the department of justice will follow in conducting this investigation. >> she said she understood that the meeting had cast a shadow on the --

[inaudible] i guess do you think that now that shadow is lifted, that she's gone far enough? >> well, again, i will -- i didn't attend the meeting. it's, i'll let her describe the meeting, and if it's had any impact on the investigation, i'll let her describe that as well. this is something that is being handled completely independent of the president and completely independent of the white house. okay. jeff. >> josh, just to follow up on that. >> sure. >> you said today you hadn't had a chance to speak with the president about it. is he frustrated about issue and the fact that that meeting took placesome. >> jeff, i have not raised this directly with the president, so i've not discussed this particular piece of news with him but what i do feel confident in telling you even though i've not discussed it with him is he believes this matter should be handled without regard to politics, and he believes this investigation should be conducted based on facts, not based on the political affiliation or the political

standing as anybody who may be involved in it. that's, that is the way that these kinds of investigations have been held, have been handled in the past. it's the way these kinds of investigations have been handled throughout president obama's tenure in office, and it's his expectation that that's how these investigations should be handled in the future. >> does that suggest then that he would also be supportive of her decision that she has articulated today, that she will accept the recommendations of the fbi and not intend to overrule -- >> well, i think the president feels strongly that that is a decision that she should make without regard to his opinion about it. these are independent decisions that should be handled by the department of justice, and it's appropriate for the attorney general to determine what her role is. and she's spoken to that today, and, you know, that is appropriate for her to do. and, frankly, my view of that matter or even the president's

view of that matter is not relevant. this is an independent investigation that is intentionally being shielded from any sort of political interference. >> all right. moving on to the next week, the president will be campaigning with secretary clinton on tuesday. can you give us a sense of the message that he intends to bring to that? it be -- have anything more to say about bernie sanders, and how will he be trying to attract voters for her in that state? >> yeah. well, look, i -- sandra: that's josh earnest at the white house holding the daily press briefing, responding to attorney general loretta lynch. he basically said that the white house's response is it's up to attorney general lynch to describe what role she will play in this clinton investigation. so he said he has not spoken to president obama about the matter. >> right. and his opinion doesn't matter. well, with the exception of fact that the president has already come out and alluded that he

believes there's nothing there and he's also campaigning for her. but other than that, his opinion won't play a role in this. sandra: and this, of course, after loretta lynch this that announcement said she wouldn't do it again, meet with president clinton on the tarmac as she did. meghan: i don't expect anything else from josh earnest. that being said, this is not going to go away. it's only going to grow over the weekend. all the reasons that people already have to distrust the clintons in general, they've been exposed. a phoenix reporter, of all people, was the first person who said this. honestly, the conspiracy theory part of me, how many times have they met before? has hillary clinton met with her? i feel like i'm in the twilight zone, like you said, julie, because it's so absurd. sandra: the question is, julie, can a fair, independent investigation still take place here? julie: i believe, yes, for the reasons that i outlined earlier. which is that james comey is in charge of this investigation, and it's being done at his

level, it's not being done at a subordinate level. he's somebody who's got the reputation of saying to previous attorneys general i don't like it, i quit. he's not somebody who minneapoliss his words. so as a result, i think if there were a real investigation and an investigation were conducted and there was a recommendation to indict and somehow that got covered up, you'd know about it because he's certainly done it in the past. he's gone very public with his bosses in the past under previous administrations. iny loretta -- i think loretta lynch basically said as much today. so i think there is a good chance for it. dagen: and the fbi still has to sit down with hillary clinton, and she would go in for a sit-down. but, again, therein lies potential lies, because again, the fbi and investigators can lie to you when they're interviewing you, but if you lie to them, you go to jail. and i've said this before, that's how martha stewart wound up in jail. she told lies to federal

investigators, and she went away for several months. so it gets even trickier when you interview these parties. meghan: i just don't know if they think the american public is this stupid in the same way that i don't believe hillary clinton was simply e-mailing about yoga and her upcoming grandchild, in the same way we're supposed to believe they were talking for a half hour about his grandchildren and, what, the election? no rational person is going to believe that. >> yeah, look, as someone who has spent years handling classified information, i'm somewhat subjective on all this. what i can say is if i had done what she did just from the facts that we have, i would be charged. that's all i can say. sandra: all right. the western conservative summit, donald trump will be speaking. currently, sarah palin is at the microphone in denver right now. donald trump expected to step up to the microphone, and we do expect that he will remark on attorney general loretta lynch's announcement about the hillary clinton e-mail probe. donald trump, of course, reacting to that on fox news last night as well.

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be sandra: fox news alert. let's take you live to the mile-high city where sarah palin as you can see is speaking right now. we're awaiting donald trump to step up to the podium. he is about to speak in denver where he is headlining the western conservative summit. the speech comes as we are now just over two weeks away from the republican national convention, but gop unity still appears elusive. just yesterday trump slamming some of his critics telling conserve tough radio show host mike gallagher, it is almost like he is running against two parties. listen. >> you have guys like krystal, bill krystal calling it wrong on my for two years, when all of these guys, it was a rough primary, they got beat up. they went after me too.

we beat them up. now they don't want to endorse. almost in some ways like i'm running against two parties. i'm not sure it matters. i think we're going to win. people are so fed up with politics and politicians. sandra: again he is expected to step up to the microphone. we'll bring that to you live, meghan. what do you make of what he is saying? meghan: why are you looking at me first? all right. it is fine, you guys. he is completely right. the party is really fractured right now. there is lots rumors never trump movement trying to pull a coup at the convention. i don't see quite frankly. but it is his job as nominee to unite the party. he has ample opportunity to do so at convention. i'm hoping for very strong foreign policy vp pick or more washington insider. sandra: as member of the republican party, what would you like to see happen? donald trump lack of leadership on his part, dare i question or

the rest of the party's fault. meghan: said people shouldn't run for office unless they support him. that is absurd. that is crazy. after someone who threatened himself to run as independent if he didn't unite. i would like real leadership. we're in tough times. obviously hillary clinton is nothing short of an evil criminal. i want him to show that he can be the leader so many of us can want. >> that is only absurd thing he said. sandra: mike biker. meghan: has the base. needs people like me. sandra: julie, you're probably seizing on this moment. julie: i'm laughing. there is "fox news poll" came out this week, 51% of the republicans want a different nominee. he is blaming everybody else? look, i mean he getting shot down by mike ditka to speak at convention. nobody wants to come to the convention to speak. he needs to look in the mirror. it is not because of the republican party. sandra: dagen, what do you make of that? dagen: i mentioned poll, 51% number wanted someone else instead of trump, his

supporters, most ardent supporters on line that poll is made up and it is wrong. channel that energy, guys and gals, and try and woo the people because, donald trump, this is like when you have a bad breakup and your boyfriend or your spouse or whatever, they're trying to woo you back. stop bitching at me what is wrong with me. stop nagging. you've got to figure out how you can win me back. if he wants to get all of these conservatives on board, staying on message. stay on the economy. stay on fighting terrorism. stop talking about your businesses. sandra: you know what he says? they took a pledge, those republicans that did and aren't supporting them. they're falling back. >> what are we in high school? it is loyalty pledge. i pledge my loyalty to you forever and ever. that pledge thing is ridiculous. it's a promise ring, it is but you know, my takeaway i don't have a dog in the front. i'm disappointed, this wonderful

country we live in with all the people, all the potential candidates we have, this is what we end up with on both sides. i feel like america we should have done better. we can do better. coming into the 4th of july i find this whole campaign season so frustrating. dagen: frustrating in the sense if you talk to anyone who sat down with him recently, they find him intelligent. that he listens. then he gets out on public stage and he starts, listen, the 51% who are not on board with you, they're not, stop talking about george will, people behind never trump. these are people at home. talk to them. and craft a broader message. doesn't have to be different. he is trying to tweak it on trade and even on the muslims. julie: you raise an excellent point. here is a man who has the biggest microphone in the country right now, bar none, including hillary clinton. he gets more media attention than anybody else, complaining

about bill krystal, really? that is what you're spending precious time to talk about. sandra: he will say i look what i have done to the party. look at energy and excitement. meghan: that is subjective. we're talking about 51%. i'm deciding whether or not this is the republican party or the trump party. if this is trump party, that is why a lot of true conservatives have a problem. a lot has to do with tone. my mother, the way he talks in many different ways puts people off. he does have the potential, convention is ample place, put your kids front and center doing lots of speeches. they're likeable. great assets to his campaign. julie: look how far the republican party come in last eight years. your father was basically asked about your fathers whether obama was muslim. he threw her out of the. >> they took away her microphone.

julie: somebody says talking about hajibibis. they go from john mccain to this. no wonder you can't unify the party. >> we all have something to say. dagen: julie gets last word. move on to the other side of the ticket. hillary clinton having some possible trouble in the blue states. could she be underestimating the strength of donald trump?

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formidable lead is down to four points. behind the numbers, seems trumps appeal in working class region is catching on. appears the clinton campaign can not rest easy in florida or ohio either, as the races in those battleground states are also tightening. sandra, i'm curious what you think about this? again with hillary clinton has had a jump in terms of fund-raising, in terms of all the money she has got to spend on advertising. also in her ground game. it is better but she is not winning because of it. sandra: clearly she an her camp are worried. every poll basically what you conclude this race is really close but as a midwest girl, i'm -- dagen: why i went to you, rust belt lady. sandra: michigan and wisconsin where clinton lost to bernie sanders. bernie sanders supporting hillary clinton that could be potentially huge boost for her. >> not sporting her yet. he has not dropped out. not so much whether he supports her, whether all the young

people so passionate about him feel they got a complete hose job, will they get in line, i'm getting on board because you took a couple things on the platform. sandra: donald trump certainly courting them. >> you look at this, now adays you can find a poll whatever your opinion happens to be. you step back. set the polls aside. look at least for now. look at logistics operation clinton has compared to her opponent in trump and it's a mammoth operation compared to what trump is doing currently right now. i realize he is scrambling to make it happen. using rnc infrastructure. i have a hard time seeing those states swing somehow over to trump just because of people's dissatisfaction with government. i understand the anger and understand washington is dysfunctional, absolutely agree. i don't think that is enough. dagen: she doesn't help herself in regions where hillary clinton tells coal miners she will put them out of a job. she won't be able to get rid of that one. julie: no, but in those states you're talking about that is not

a coal miner state, pennsylvania aside. dagen: saying western pennsylvania. julie: pennsylvania is the like charlie brown football. this is our chance. we'll win pennsylvania and philly burbs come out strongly and western part of pennsylvania can not offset that. the problem for republicans in pennsylvania continues to be they keep putting resources in. pennsylvania is tipping point. if donald trump wins pennsylvania he wins this election. it is not ohio or florida, it is pennsylvania. he is not going to. they are not going to win wisconsin by far and not going to win michigan. reason i say this, to mike's point take away all the polls and history, historical trends, demographically, historically these states won't turn republican in the future. meghan: in in 1988 mike dukakis was blowing george bush out of polls.

debates and convention. candidates get big bumps out convention. i think this time around running mates could make a huge difference both sides aisle. i would make no predictions on anything right now. for kind of money and ground game she should be doing better than she is. donald trump as much as i have issues, when you're in the voting booth pulling trigger one way or other, "crooked hillary," i think a lot of people will feel that way. dagen: afl-cio is worried enough trying to fight against donald trump among members and other unions. we're awaiting mr. trump to speak out in the mile-high city in denver, colorado. we'll bring you his remarks with we come back. ♪ [ guitar playing ] ugh. heartburn. sorry ma'am. no burning here. try new alka-seltzer heartburn relief gummies. they work fast and don't taste chalky. mmmm. incredible. looks tasty. you don't have heartburn. new alka-seltzer heartburn relief gummies. enjoy the relief.

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sandra: busy friday. fox news alert. you are looking live at the stage in denver at the western conservative summit where donald trump is expected to take the stage any moment now. we're looking to see if he responds to the news today attorney attorney loretta lynch making that announcement that she is going to follow the recommendations of the fbi on the hillary clinton email probe and saying that she regrets the tarmac meet-up with former president bill clinton in the wake of that probe. mike baker, we're waiting for

donald trump. your thoughts. >> he is going to say it is bad. he was surprised. this could be huge. what is he going to say? she has acknowledged, i think they have done a pretty impressive job getting ahead of this. they understand how bad it looks from optics. they're very smart people. she got ahead with the yuck fest at aspen in front of adoring crowd. acknowledged it was a mistake. she wint do it again. i don't think that satisfies folks that see something behind it but i don't think we'll hear him dwell on it too much. i would hope not. it would be nice if he talks specifics and policies. sandra: white house at top of the hour, dagen, pretty much choosing not to comment. josh earnest, press secretary says he hasn't even spoken about it. dagen: i wouldn't either. when i get asked that question, i would say i haven't talked to the president at all about it. it has not come up. i would like to see donald trump just throwing outage. >>tives against hillary clinton

corrupt hillary, put a big bow on it, describe why this matters. not just so much loretta lynch but also her husband, her husband's behavior, email server, clinton foundation and theie house. that is what matters. >> would have to be scripted. that would not be extemporaneous. meghan: this is opportunity for his campaign to respond to this. hillary clinton supporters looking at this with second lens. i hope he doesn't blow it. sandra: we'll bring the comments to you on fox news when they come. thanks to mike baker, #oneluckyguy. we're back on tv, monday, 4th of july, noon eastern. join us question would be happy to share the day with you. happy 4th of july, everybody. "happening now" starts after the break. for as long as i can. new patented ensure enlive has hmb plus 20 grams of protein to help rebuild muscle. for the strength and energy to do what you love. new ensure enlive. always be you. now you can't spell nutriam i right?t nut, i mean whose to say it's pronounced nu-triton, anyway?

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