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say that we have got the tape and a lot more. a lot happening in america. join us. ♪ ♪ >> and good saturday morning, everyone. welcome in to "fox & friends." abby huntsman, everyone. >> always good to be sand sandwiched in the middle. where i like to be. >> coast to coast, black lives matter protesters taking over city streets again to show anger in the latest rash of police involved shootings. >> protest in atlanta where they brought traffic to a stand still. shutting down a major interstate that runs through city. even though protests were peaceful. reports say some officers in riot gear were spat on, slapped and had water bottles thrown at them. phoenix police used pepper spray several times and created barricades from keeping demonstrators from reaching a frozen.

began shooting beanbag guns as water bottles at them. >> several hundred gathered across the street sphrt baton rouge headquarters. many also tried to block a highway leading police to arrest at least a dozen people. a line of officers, some with riot shield and batons cleared the streets pushing protesters to the sidewalk. well, our old friend rod wheeler has been following all of this from the very beginning. he joining us from the grieving city of dallas. rod, god morning. >> good morning to you, tucker. >> yes. i'm right down here in dallas. downtown just steps away from where that horrific event took place the other day. there is this calmness. this somewhat of a somberness in the air here in dallas. what was really interesting, tucker. when i arrived yesterday, i talked to a couple of police officers the sentiments was the same with them. they were like, you know, rod, it's a whole different world that we're living in now and the challenges that they have, they have to be prepared for them.

>> rod, let's talk about what we know now about this guy. there is a lot of information flying fast and furiously yesterday morning where there were reports of multiple shooters. it all came down to one guy, didn't it? >> that's right it came down to the one guy. the suspect that's already been identified. the guy that was killed. you know, this guy had a lot of pent animus not just police but white people in general. he started posting things on facebook page and collecting weapons and ammunition. this guy was on a mission. i don't even think with this guy, tucker, it was a situation he was mentally unstable. this was a guy that was just really filled with hate. the only way he knew to display his hate was to go after police officers and use them as targets. >> rod, you have been on the ground there in dallas following. this you there were this morning the day after as we are still waking up feeling numb from what happened.

learning more about the five officers who were killed, who had families, who had a story to tell, who had lives. who were heroes in many ways. what is the mood where you are today? >> it's a real somber mood, i will tell you, abby. like i said, when i talked to the police officers yesterday, the officers at the airport that i talked to, they knew the officers that were killed and they said they were great people. family men one man putting his kids through school. every day people like all of us and let me tell you, these guys had no reason to die. >> rod, there were early reports that this man had brought bombs to the scene in downtown dallas that turned out not to be true. but bomb-making materials were found at his home? tell us what you know about that. the sphib and dallas police executed a search warrant in this guy's home, and they were able to collect a lot

of evidence such as bomb-making materials. different things that this guy started putting together. that's why this guy made the statement to the police when he was in negotiations with them that there were other bombs around the city. i below this guy had plans to do a lot more damage than what he did here that night. the fbi and the dallas police are continuing to find out a whole lot more about this guy and i think today as the sunrises, we will continue to learn more about the daily effects that this guy had and what his intentions were. >> some of his comrades who having served in afghanistan. he was army reservist. came back to afghanistan those knew him say he had changed when he came back. he, as you mentioned. started of becoming more radical, posting different things on facebook page and different social outlets. what do we know about that? >> a lot of facebook postings. a lot of hatred. this guy had so much built

in, pent up anger towards everybody. not just police officers. i think that's important to emphasize. i think anyone could have been a victim that night. he targeted the police that night because he saw the opportunity. but this guy had some major, major issues going on with him. >> in today's world, we can get a lot through social media. seeing his facebook posts he has one with his fist in the air with the black power salute. also his sister who posted a rant on facebook calling the officer's killer why people have and will continue to kill us off. the only difference is they serve the system hiding behind that blue suit. get off easy murdering civilians. everything coming to light. i for one think these cops need to get a taste of the life that we now fear. >> she posted that two days before the killing. this is a wake before what unfolded in louisiana. >> that's what i was about to say.

that's really interesting. one thing that is very interesting with this guy. if this guy has so much anger towards white people, then why did he start shooting at the police officers that was protecting the black lives matter movement? it just didn't make any sense. and when you look at where this phi was stationed when he started shooting the cops, originally. he could have shot any police officers of any race. so if he was so angry toward white people then why did he target that particular group? i think all of these things we have to try to figure out with this guy today. >> rod, we led this signaturement with a report various protests last night. every one of them blocked streets and highways. most of them the police allowed them to new normal where people who are mad get to stop you from going home or to see your kids? when did that become okay. >> most jurisdictions or cities you have to have a permit. again, the police trying to work with various communities, trying to do the best job they can, are

allowing protesters to express themselves. we have the constitutional right as we all know to protest. and the police are just making sure that the protesters and the anti-protesters stay apart from each other just to keep the peace. >> do you have a right to shut down infrastructure and what about my right to use the roads which i pay for? >> no. i mean, i feel you, tucker. i'm there with you. in today's environment the best thing for us to do as police officers is just allow these folks, whoever they are, to do what they want to do. but they don't have the right. let me be more specific. they don't have the right to shut down roadways. but if it's not going to be a long way in which they're going to shut down the roadway. some departments will allow them to continue. >> delegate balancing act right now? >> >> it is a tough balancing act. it's a tough job. it really is. >> rod wheeler, thanks for being with us this morning. >> live for us in dallas in the wake of all of this.

>> i don't know why punishing the population is allowed. >> happened here in new york city, fifth avenue. arthur aidala caught it in the middle of the day. >> i'm for protests, i think people have a right to' views i do it for a living is it folk for me to wreck your life if you are a hospital trying to get to the hospital? >> you have to find that balance. if they are protesting peacefully, you have got to let people voice their opinion. >> for sure. >> and speak out. that he was what america is all about. >> but blocking roads? that's the thing. lots of places to protest. >> it would be interesting to hear from different police departments what they're telling their officers. >> we know what they are telling them. don't get involved. you don't want to wind up on some sort of youtube video. they don't want to get intimidated. >> turn into another ferguson. that's the fear, i guess. >> few other headlines this morning. president obama agreeing to cut his trip to europe short flying to dallas in the wake of this week's historic miss

shootings. the police wrapping up a meeting with leaders in poland. fully to the united states on sunday night. hillary clinton correcting the record on behalf of fbi director james comey after he called her extremely careless when it came to handling classified material in her email. >> do you acknowledge you were extremely careless? >> well, i think that director clarified that comment to some extent. >> last we checked, he did not. clinton has stood by her claims though that she didn't send classified information despite the fbi's report. so how does this happen? 130 passengers on a delta airlines flight taken to the wrong airport by mistake. the pilots were supposed to land in rapid city, south dakota, but, instead, somehow found themselves touching down at the nears by ellsworth air force base missing their runway by 10 miles as if that wasn't bad enough they had to sit on the runway for hours

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unfortunately it makes a tax like these more deadly and more tragic. >> um-huh. so that means it's your fault if you own a gun that america is becoming more dangerous. we have a fair and balanced debate on gun control coming up. don't miss it. >> as officers mourn black lives matter. supporters are cheering the deadly ambush. how can we bring both sides together? our community panel is here to weigh in on that. ♪ ♪ on humira

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republicans, what on earth -- why are you recalling and not giving us a debate on gun violence? >> we are asking the speaker of the house, we're asking the majority leader, to now realize that an ar-15 does

not discriminate. >> too many innocent lives have been claimed because of the easy access that people have to guns. >> that's the debate this morning almost immediately after the dallas attack, including the president in poland calling for stricter gun laws. was it about guns or a man with a vendetta looking to kill police officers. for this we turn to lisa booth and executive director of the accountability project and democratic strategist nomiki konst. >> there is a big problem going on right now in society in saying that this is somehow just about guns real liz trivializes deep seeded issues that we are seeing going on in america right now. we are seeing an unraveling that is going none society when we see the deadliest

use of force against police officers since 9/11 when we're seeing, you know, thousands of people storm the streets in protest. mind you the protest in dallas was peaceful until this incident happened. we are seeing a great unraveling happening in society right now. pointing to just guns is really trivializing the issue. we need to have some serious conversations in america and also not to be, you know, we have these conversations, if we introduce that not to be labeled things like racists and islamophobics. there needs to be a dialogue because there is clearly distrust in the african-american community with police officers and police officers feel like they are being let down. just like the chief of police says in dallas he feels like his job is very difficult and getting more difficult by the day. >> nomiki the president in warsaw saying look we don't have the facts yet but proceed to do weigh in on things that he had allegedly

heard at the time. to lisa's point, does this viflize the entire argument going just directly after guns? >> absolutely not. regardless ofs of the situation, the conversation has shifted entirely. you this two officers, three officers kill two innocent men one who actually had a registered gun and was alerting the officer that he had that registered gun. so this is a conversation about guns. there are those that register their guns and there are those who don't. types of guns that we shouldn't have, military weaponry. chief of police saying the weapon rised weaponry is given to 25-year-olds. you have a problem. we have had violent protests in our history. this is not a time of violent protest. this we have extremely horrible incident in dallas that is no way tied to black lives matter. but we must recall in the 60's we were more divided than can you even imagine we

are today. so i have to push back on lisa. we are not more divided than we were in the 60's and we didn't have the gun violence in the 60's. the only thing -- had you your time. the only thing causing this problem is we have more guns. 88 guns per 100 prisoners. 2500 gun deaths in a day. states with the most gun laws more gun related deaths. that's the science. >> i don't even begin know to begin with. everything nomiki said is incorrect. going back it the riots in 1968, that's a bad place to be in society. if those are the divides we are talking about, we are in a really bad place. this is beyond anythinged that the president can do. this something that needs to happen with the individual. happen at the home. happen in local communities. rebuilding of trust. a self-examination about what is going on in america and actions that people are taking that are contributing to the problems that we have. and talking about. >> blaming african-americans

for that problem? >> nomiki i am really offended by putting words in my mouth that i never said. further the reason why the debate has shifted is because we have had multiple police officers that were gunned down in cold blood, murdered. yes, we need to examine those cases that happened with those two. let's let the judicial system move and move forward. if they were found to be at fault absolutely they should be held to be accountable come on. >> regardless of your defenses and wanting to blame the victims, lisa. >> i never said that no, nomiki, shame on you. i never said that, nomiki. >> shame on me. >> you should have some self-reflection, nomiki to draw those conclusions. >> lisa, you just said that the community has to take the burden. not the lawmakers. >> officers as well. everyone. >> we are up against -- guys, we have got to end it here. thank you so much for joining us. thank you. unfortunately, this debate

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issued advisory in the state. be careful in cities boiling over with tension over police shootings. those are you're headlines. >> thanks, abby. well, dallas police officers mourn black lives matter protesters celebrating the deadly ambush. i welcome the news that the american police have got a taste of their own medicine. wow. what can we do to bridge this deep divide that is apparently tearing this country apart? here to way in watch guard campaign involve and sheriff of the new york sheriff's association christopher moss. retired nypd lieu tenant. start with you, sheriff, thanks a lot for joining us by the way black lives matter have sincere beliefs and a point. they are being allowed by police departments across the country to block block our major infrastructure. basically an attack on all of us. why are they allow to do do that snnch it's a balancing act right now. police departments do they

have the resources to stop some of the numbers of the protesters that are out there. i think rather than engage and end in more violence they are really holding back right now. letting everybody for the next couple of days go ahead and do that you are right. it's against the law. >> being bull idea basically? >> yes. >> so jehmu, committees son one kesson one of the leaders of the black lives matter whiteness is bad. that seems like a racist attack in fact that undermines his moral position. why does nobody say that? >> i can't speak for him and i don't think that he actually speaks for the entire black lives matter. >> problem with whiteness. that's an attack on a racial group and isn't that by definition racist? >> tucker, it's very clear that the number one goal of the black lives matter movement is to find justice in a system that they feel is not equal right now. and they want to do it with humanity. they want to do it with nonviolence.

and there are some bad actors out there. and pointing to those bad actors does nothing to solve. >> that's a pretty common line. does it bother you when you hear people attack quote whiteness? how would you peel when people attack blackness. >> it bothers me when people attack both. >> good. >> we can leave that there and say how can we learn from this situation. the black lives matter movement, they want exactly the type of policing that was happening in dallas. that's what they want to spread across the country. things were working there. that's -- i mean it could not be more tragic what happened. that is also a part of the tragedy is that had you community policing and resources being put into training that was actually working in dallas and that's exactly what this movement is calling for. that's the heart and soul of this. not somewhat someone says on twitter. if we keep getting into the dirt, that's how we stay in our corners. i'm too angry and paralyzed this week to be in a corner it has to be.

>> what's the effect on average police officers of all of this? i mean the political pressure coming to bear on police departments has to be intense. does it make it hard to do their jobs. >> disheartening it see the community turned their back on the police department. we have to work on getting the community to better understand the police department as well. not just the police department understanding the community. we really have to have the community understand what the police do every day. the positive stories that they don't hear about. and know that the police department has a split second decision to make on the street. and it could be life altering. just like surgeons are we going to start holding surgeons criminally accountable when they make an error. >> accountability in dallas at the police department has been holding officers accountable, that's been a part of fewer officer involved shootings. that's a part of decrease in all of these issues that are driving the protests that is something that should be a part of the solution. >> we have to realize there is a big difference between somebody acting criminally going out there and intentionally committing a crime and somebody having a

split second decision that could change somebody's life. and that's one thing. the cops are not going out there i spent 13 must years in the new york city police department and all my career in brooklyn. you have a split second decision. that's what cops are being forced with a lot of people don't understand that haven't gone through this. >> that's why training is important. >> demagoguing on what happened in dallas. hillary clinton among them. here is part of what she said yesterday. watch. >> i will call for white people like myself to put ourselves in the shoes of those african-american families who fear every time their children go somewhere who have to have the talk about, you know, how to really protect themselves when they're the ones who should be expecting protection from encounters with the police. i'm going to be talking to white people. i think we're the ones who have to start listening to the legitimate cries that are coming from our

african-american fellow citizens. >> gosh, you can be against police brutal i certainly am and see that as racially divided. she says i call on black people to put themselves in the shoes of the white officers who were killed. that's divisive by its nature, is it not? >> i think it is. when we go back to dallas. that is one of the communities and police democracy in the forefront of community policing. when you see what happened there thursday night, it's going to set things back for years. it truly is. when i look at the black lives matter movement, obviously anybody is aloy to do protested and anybody is allow to do gather. i just think when you look at social media like the tweet we just saw there the overtone is that you know what? two white police officers killed two. black men, and now it's okay for somebody black to get even and kill five white police officers. i hope this isn't what is going to happen and continue to happen because police are very, i think we're going to have a hard time in policing these types of events. >> if you frame everything

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welcome back. we have got a fox news alert for you this morning. protests continue to rage across this country. activists angry over officer involved shootings despite the major loss of life our officers suffered in dallas two days ago. that brings us five police officers, husbands fathers, even a veteran murdered in cold blood. >> i thought this morning when i woke up, this is a dream, right? this didn't really all happen. >> now as we learn more about the sniper who gunned them down, people around the country showing their support for america's finest. >> william la jeunesse is live for us in dallas this morning to tell us about the men who were murdered and how they are being remembered as well as the latest in the investigation. good morning, william. >> hey, tucker. number one, downtown will remain off limits, much of it anyways until wednesday. the three suspects who had been in custody have now been released and have no connection police say to the shooter. micah johnson, 25 years old. a former army reservist who

served from 2009 to 2015. he, however, when they did a search warrant yesterday at his home found bomb-making materials, a ballistic vest, rifles, ammunition and combat journal on tactics. they say he did not belong to any formal political party or terrorist organization. however, he was a supporter of the new black panther party which is a racist organization which does advocate violence against whites. as for the victims, there has been outpouring support to the dallas police department from around the country and around the state there was a gathering yesterday at a local park. kind of a hug your police officer day. there has been a growing mound of flowers at the headquarters. united way has started a fundraiser for the families of the fallen officers. they range from exempt my pro-football player loren ahrens, patrick zamarripa. ranger outfits.

michael smith spent a lot of time in the church exarmy ranger. brent thompson had just been married only two weeks. as for the political element here in texas, lieutenant governor dan patrick said yesterday that he believed that the protesters running from the fire or the bullets were hypocrites for asking for police help. however, the governor, dan greg abbot rather said he had asked for people to unite and come together. president obama will be here next week. back to you. >> all right, thanks, william. it's not just dallas we are talking about this morning. overnight police being targeted across a number of states last night. and this one shocked me in valdosta that, georgia. 911 call comes in sent out a police officer to the house in order to fire on this police officer.

in baldwin, missouri, one officer in critical condition after being shot. bristol, tennessee one officer wounded, two civilians killed and two wounded. suspect in the hospital this morning. >> i was actually at dinner last night with my husband in the west village and protests are going on all over the country. i watched as these cops lined up to prepare for the night. they didn't know what was going to happen. unloading the car and putting on vests and bullet proof vests. i watched them and thought what is it like to be a police officer today. they had to say goodbye to their wife and kids not knowing what could possibly happen. we are now to a place where you worry that people aren't going to want to go into that field because you just don't want to feel nervous every day of your life. how did we get here? >> what bothers me the most the generalizing going on. police, black people, white people. these are very specific instances. one person did one thing bad in dallas the other day. he doesn't represent all black people.

cops shot two unarmed suspects. that doesn't represent all cops or all white people. the second you start generalizing like that, that's when your country breaks apart and becomes ball cannized. that's tribalism and that's bad. >> 26 killed. up 44% from just last year from 2015. >> we could be hearten to do know to look at the statistics from the 1970 absolute disaster way down. >> how did it get there in the 70 because of the 60's. riots in 1965. detroit 67. going all across the country and law enforcement fell apart that led to a 20 year crime spree that only ended in the 90's. so i hope this isn't the beginning of another trend like that. >> sad reality. we have other headlines to get to this morning. a florida democrat indicted on federal fraud charges, representative korean brown pleading guilty to charges around a charity called one door for education foundation. which she used as her own

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and don and get your head out of your butt we have more things to think about today. #alton sterling #philando castile. >> good morning. i tell you what, it has been so hot and stormy for some people this week. a little more today. take a look at the weather maps. as you are waking up this morning. temps not that bad. hot and humid across the south. that is going to stay the case. sometimes you get into a summer where it's not that hot and sometimes you get into a summer where it's hot. this is a summer where it's hot. that's what it looks like it's going to stay for a while. a lot of showers. little bit of storms moving across parts of the northeast today and flooding going on across northern arkansas in across parts of the ozarks this morning. be very careful as you are heading out. rapid rise to. so rivers out there. rain moving in across the park northwest. that storm moves in across the northern plains. a little bit of severe weather today. you see from bismarck all

the way down toward valentine, nebraska. tomorrow it becomes a little bit more severe. bigger chance of a tornado or two. watch out for that other story is just this heat. you look at the actual air temperatures. hot in 93 today in atlanta. but it is going to be humid as well. feeling very uncomfortable. guys, it's been hot this week across a lot of the northeast. that's going to come back as well. get ready for summer, guys? >> that humidity. >> thanks, rick. >> you bet. >> all right. what would dr. martin luther king say about violence that we have seen in dallas and now across the country? well we asked his niece dr. king. she is coming up next. >> donald trump and hillary clinton take drastically different approaches to address the attacks in dallas. hillary says white people are to blame. we will tell you more on that. we're live from washington next. >>uh, hello!? a meeting? it's a big one. too bad. we are double booked: diarrhea and abdominal pain.

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welcome back, a fox news alert. the presumptive presidential nominees donald trump and hillary clinton giving

reactions to the attack in dallas. garrett tenney is live from washington, d.c. with the differing details. good morning, garrett. >> clayton, good morning. the horrific shooting in dallas is impacting the 2016 race for president by again bringing up the issues of race, criminal justice reform and gun control to the forefront of the debate. both hillary clinton and donald trump cancelled campaign events friday morning out of respect for the victims. later in the day, both candidates praised the beretry of those officers who ran towards the gunfire. but, at the national convention of the african episcopal in philadelphia clinton shifted a bit and focused on racism in police departments across the country and how officers need better training for interacting with the african-american community. >> white americans need to do a better job of listening when african-americans talk. [ applause ]

talk about the seen and unseen barriers you face every day. >> well, in a video posted online, donald trump said this week's shootings of black men in minnesota and louisiana do show we still have work to do in making every american feel safe. but he stressed that police officers need our help and support to do that. >> a brutal attack on our police force is an attack on our country and an attack on our families. we must stand in solidarity with law enforcement which we must remember is the force between civilization and total chaos. >> both candidates are laying low this week and neither has any public events scheduled for today. donald trump is hold go ahead a fundraiser tonight in new york. clayton? >> garrett tenney live for us with the latest on that. thanks, garrett abby? >> deadliest attack on law enforcement since september 11th.

[gunfire] the attack on officers coming on the heels of increasing unrest following the shooting deaths of two black men by police early yer this week. tragic cases like this on both sides have become regular headlines unfortunately. with the country so deeply divided. how can we all find peace and common ground. alveda king joins us with insight into what her uncle dr. martin luther king may have said today. good morning. >> good morning and my uncle, dr. martin luther king jr. "fox & friends," hello, to everyone. >> we are who happy that you are here. just off the top. your reaction? waking up yesterday morning to what you were feeling that moment? this has to hit really close to home to you. >> my heart was totally touched, of course. and my first response was to pray for the families of the men who had been killed in louisiana and minnesota. i agree with mr. trump who said those were senseless

killings. and i do also agree that we have to mourn for the families of the police officers who have also lost their loved ones. so the tremendous loss of members of a family i can understand because that has happened in my family. you know, my uncle dr. martin luther king jr. said that we must learn to value the sacredness of the human personality. and when we do that, we want to -- we won't trample or kill anybody. we must lift brothers or sisters or perish as fools acts 27:6 saying we are one blood. the blood of america needs to unite now in peace and nonviolence action. we have got to come against the violence and stop hating each other because of skin color. >> yeah. your uncle dr. martin luther king his whole message was about coming together. working as one. right? we are all americans under the same roof. that is a message that has

stuck with us today. and you look at the politicians that are speaking out now in the after math. you mentioned donald trump. president obama has spoken out. what do you think dr. martin luther king would say to president obama's message because, you know, i think there was some real excitement when he took office in 2008 about this hope and change and bringing people together. and you look at where we are just 8 years later. >> my uncle, dr. martin luther king jr. my dad reverend a.d. king, his brother, believed in a beloved community. and there are six steps of nonviolence conflict resolution so the black lives matter movement maybe needs to examine those nonviolent steps of conflict resolution. i believe my uncle or dad were here today, of course i marched in the 20th century myself and was jailed. but i was trained in nonviolence. so the message would be pray. just god, repent, america, and come back to god and resolve this peacefully. there is no need for further anarchy and fighting and

shooting. white privilege is a problem. racism in america is a problem. but we can do better. >> that is a great message to end. dr. alveda king, thanks for being with us this morning. >> thank you. >> and we'll be right back. ♪ take on the unexpected with a car that could stop for you. nissan safety shield technologies, available in the altima, sentra and maxima. now get 0% apr for up to 72 months, plus $500 bonus cash. ♪ you stay up. you listen. you laugh. you worry. you do whatever it takes to take care of your family. and when it's time to plan for your family's future, we're here for you. we're legalzoom, and for over 10 years we've helped

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>> it's a horrible scene and few of us prepared for it civilians running for their lives dallas police ambush two days ago. a mass shootings in the country. how you can protect yourself find yourself in a situation like this. >> ceo of the group international thanks for being with us. >> thanks. >> sad reality we live. in we love having you here. the fact that we have to have you here talking about

how to you protect yourself leaving your house every single day. >> it's crazy. especially for the viewers sitting here this morning for the viewers sitting here thinking about. this we have to get of up before we go to the mall and theater and thinking about how i am going to protect myself when i get there. it's ridiculous. >> be prepared. you will get in the car and drive for 200 miles? we have had things in our car to prep ourselves in case we get stranded. how do you prepare for something like this though? >> you know, clayton, on the prepared side that's certainly another issue. and there are things that i always recommend to folks. for something like this. i think the best thing to do is clearly keep it simple so everybody listening gets it. throw main things that i look at, calm, scan, and plan. the first thing when you think about how the mind works. your body will do exactly what the body will tell you to do. if you say don't panic, you will typically panic. don't think of the color red, you will think of red. something somebody needs to do in a crisis situation. stay calm. i got. this the second thing is

scan. scan 360 degrees the entire day. now, i know the first thing we want to do is jump or run, but oftentimes most people can actually get hurt by running into the line of fire by reacting erratically. scan 360 degrees. look around you, take your head sets off. i know that's -- so we can actually hear what's going on. smell. if you smelling gunpowder, you are close. and hear, remember, the sound of gunfire actually sounds like fire crackers. so scan the area. look for hazards, and look for places to hide. and then plan. if you can't safely evacuate, safeguard yourself, your children, whoever is with you and hide as best as you can. >> take off those ear phones something we often forget. >> exactly. >> thank you for joining us. >> always a pleasure. >> we'll be in cleveland in a week and we will keep your advice in mind. >> i will be here. >> david clarke is joining us next here on "fox & friends." we'll be right back.

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good morning, saturday july 9th. i'm abby huntsman in for anna kooiman. antipolice protest erupting overnight. a warning from the fbi. >> you will never believe hillary clinton's explanation for the dallas attack. she says white people share the blame. watch this. >> white americans need to do a better job of listening. whp for when african-americans talk. >> it's your fault. sheriff david clarke here to react next. >> dallas sniper confess to wanting to kill white people. rudy giuliani who people -- on the left are calling racist for saying this. >> and if black lives matter was truly concerned about black lives, they would be concerned about black crime. >> >> is that racist? we'll discuss. "fox & friends" hour two starts right now. ♪ ♪

>> oh, welcome. >> welcome in on this saturday morning, everyone. nice to see all of you. >> abby huntsman sitting in the center seat on the couch this morning. >> nowhere i would rather be than right here. it's true. >> you do it's a good facsimile. >> i do it with a smile. >> good to see you this morning. >> a lot of news going on. from coast to coast. black lives matter protesters taking over city streets again to show anger over latest rash of police involved shootings. >> latest one in atlanta where brought traffic to a stand still shutting down a major interstate that runs through that city even though the protesters were peaceful reports say some officers in riot gear were spat on, slapped and had water bottles thrown at them. create barricades to keep rioters from reaching

freeways. beanbag guns as water at them. >> several hundred protesters gathered across the street from the police department headquarters. many also tried to block a highway. leaving police to arrest at least a dozen people. >> officers some with right shields and batons pushing police back to the sidewalk. this morning we want to bring in milwaukee county sheriff david clarke who joined us yesterday in the wake of the tragedy in dallas to talk about some the commentary that's now being talked about this morning. sheriff, welcome back to the show. now, let me get your comments. i asked you yesterday about the comments of reverend jesse jackson and some of the comments he had made in the wake of the attack. we will talk about that in just a moment. but, mayor rudy giuliani was on the network yesterday and he said this about what unfolded. i want to get your response. watch. >> of course black lives matter. but so do blue lives, police officers, so do white lives andation livessation --

asian lives and. if they were truly concerned about black lives matter they would be concerned about blue crime. although there are some of these incidents indefensible by police officers they were significantly minuscule in comparison to the enormous amount of murder that takes place black on black. >> is that racist, sheriff? >> not at all. rudy giuliani is one of the most honorable men that i have ever met. look, he is right. because of rudy giuliani's policies of reducing crime in new york city during his tenure, tens of thousands of black men are alive today. that is a fact. some of the stuff that you hear being spewed by this hate group black lives matter is to object secure the truth about what's going on in the american ghetto today. the leading cause of death for black males in the american ghetto is homicide at the hands of other black people. >> so, sheriff, i want to get your take on what's happening even now across

the country. these black lives matter protest. they are mad about police shootings. they have a right to be. but they are shutting down public thoroughfares, highways and roads. police departments are doing nothing about it what's the point of having a police department if they can't keep the roads open? the rest of us are being punished because this one group has an agenda and cops aren't stopping them. why? >> well, i question this approach to dealing with this situation. i have talked about it before. i go back to the 1960's. i have studied this movement. this anarchist movement. and the law enforcement back then in newark and detroit and l.a., they tried this passive approach to this and it didn't work. it got law enforcement officers hurt and killed. and it got citizens killed. at some point law enforcement is going to have to enforce the law. that is not peaceful protest. that is agitation. they do not have a right to take over a roadway. they tried that in milwaukee, wisconsin, several years ago. and 70 people out of 100 that showed up on the interstate system went to jail on my order.

i don't like that approach but i don't run the situation in those cities. but, people have -- you know, other people have rights, too. people have a right to that public accessway to take -- you know, use as a roadway with their vehicle to get to and fro. they also have rights, too that are being impeded on. right now i said the rights are in conflict. but the police are there to enforce the law thed roadway is not made for pedestrian track. like our sidewalks are not made for vehicular traffic. >> the only way to move forward here is to figure out the root of the problem. i do give mayor rudy giuliani credit for speaking out about that. you have a number of folks on the left including president obama talking about gun control and how that in part is to blame and how we need to focus on that. reverend jesse jackson also spoke about guns and blaming that. listen to this. >> if you look at the number of the balance of it, the far more killing people. people should not be killing

people. we don't get in an argument about who killed the most. we should stop the killing. easy access to high powered weapons is a danger to american security it does not make sense to be fighting wars against weapons of mass destruction -- weapons that can bring down airplanes. totally irrational in the name of second amendment. >> we can have that gun debate. i think we have been having it but what more gun control stopped what happened two nights ago? >> only idiots on the left antigun zealots belief that jesse jackson how he could put together coherent thought. i heard him in an program yesterday fo't make heads or tas out of what he was saying. he throws buzz words together and throws things together weapons of mass destruction. last night he was talking about high powered weapons on the street that could take down an airliner. is he talking to b. a surface to air missile there are none of those on the streets. is he a relic of the past. his time and come and gone.

he reminds me of an aging pitchner baseball whose fast ball no longer has any zip and every time he throws something someone knocks it out of the park. >> that is the single greatest description of a jesse jackson rant i have ever heard. that was worth the price of admission, sheriff. >> unbelievable. i want to get your response to, this sheriff. hillary clinton in a press conference yesterday had this to say about how white people need to listen. take a listen. >> white americans need to do a better job of listening. when african-americans talk. [ applause ] talk about the seen and unseen barriers you face every day. >> white people need to listen. that's the root of the problem, sheriff. >> yeah. that's kind of funny. but, look, self-flaggation is what she is engaged in there. that's what white liberal

does when they are feeling insecure. she is not good on the stump. she is not good at this. she doesn't have finesse. everything she says comes out in awkward fashion that body bodes well in the donald trump campaign. let her -- get out of her way and let her do that. that's not the problem in america. the problem in america is the divisiveness that's been caused by president barack obama and some of these other liberals on the left who specialize in division. this fictitious war on women. they put the races against each other. remember the 1 percenters, that's what they specialize in. they want to keep people at each other's throats so they can maintain this chaotic state that we are in right now and then threatens our institution like it is the institution of policing in america. our courts and some of those things and then once those institutions are destroyed,

then they can insert their socialist agenda. that's a true goal here and like i said, all people have to do is go back and look at the same situations pack in the 60's and you will find it another thing jesse jackson said yesterday. >> he talked about the civil rights struggle that continues today. i'm here to tell you and i'm living proof there is no civil rights struggle in the united states anymore. we took care of that. there are some instances that pop up from time to time and i will tell you what, we have things in place that will shut that sort of stuff down. what he is talking about is when blacks were denied the right to vote. plaques -- blacks are not denied the right to vote. when you this h. your coloreds only and whites only. that was the civil rights struggle that no longer exists in the united states. that needs to end. that's the kind of stuff that keeps this division going and once white people acknowledge that, and start pushing back against that,

that's when i think we will all be better off. right now everybody is walking around on egg shells afraid to say anything about this hate group black lives matter. they are afraid to say anything about support for police in a public manner or public way, i should say, and until that starts to happen, i'm talking about push back. you know, we will be a lot better off as a country. >> sheriff david clarke. that was a bracing 8 minutes with you. thanks for joining us this morning. >> my pleasure. >> that was interesting to hear what he has to say. >> pretty awesome. >> he says it like it is. >> all right. >> unafraid. >> never unafraid. hillary clinton fbi careless when it comes to handling classified material in her emails. >> do you acknowledge you were extremely careless? >> well, i think the director clarified that comment to some extent. >> at last check he did not.

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we're back now with a fox news alert. the nation on edge as dallas mourns the loss of their fallible this morning. we are learning new information about the sniper who shot and killed those five police officers on thursday night. >> former d.c. homicide detective fox news contributor and our old friend rod wheeler is in

dallas with the very latest for us this morning. rod, it's gadd to see you. what do you know? >> good morning, tucker. we are learning more and more as the day progresses about this shooter. he had a lot of pent up anger within himself. as a matter of fact he made several facebook postings about his hatred not just about the police but for white people in general. he was dealing with a lot of personal tragedies within himself. another thing that's very interesting is that the dallas morning newspaper, the headlines is we're hurting, tucker. i think this sums up the feeling and the atmosphere here in the city of dallas this morning. >> what more are we learning about him as a person? i know that investigators are now gone through his home. they found weapons, vests, other things that he was maybe planning to do as some point. what more do we know about him and what might lead to a motivation here? >> that's right. well, you know, this guy had bomb making materials. he had ammunition.

he had various types of weapons. and he is a former military guy, so he is very familiar with these types of tools. the other thing that's very interesting about all of this though is whether or not anyone else was aware of this guy's plans. this guy had plans to set off bombs, i do believe, in other areas of the city. for one reason or another, he had never gotten around to do it. he was in the process though, abby, of building these bombs and other types of devices so he could harm people. >> rod, you know yesterday on the show, of course there was a lot of confusion obviously as these facts are coming in because there was chaos on the streets as people were fleeing. they were thinking they were hearing bullets coming from different directions. early reports have up to four people one guy. what about those other reports? what do you know about that? >> that's right. well, the reason that happened, tucker and clayton, is because there was so much chaos going on when this initial shooting took place. as a matter of fact, i'm standing not far, just

really steps away from where all of this chaos ensued. and because of these high buildings, the parking garages around here, it's kind of easy for people to kind of get things misunderstood in terms of what they are hearing, what they are seeing, so some of the initial witnesses started saying that they saw maybe one, maybe two, maybe three shooters when, in fact, it was just one shooter. i think because of all the chaos, people were just a little confused. >> but there are still questions about how this man, how johnson got to the scene. were there people helping him plan this, helping him executed logistics and questions about his own family. i want to read a facebook post from his sister nicole johnson. here is what she wrote and i'm quoting. white people have and will continue to kill us off. the only difference is they serve the system hiding behind that blue suit and get off easy murdering civilians. everything coming into the light. and i for one think these cops need to get a life of taste of the life we now

fear. >> it make us wonder what's going through the minds of these people. who else, again, was involved with the planning of this. and the fbi is looking into that right now. i think right now though, the focus should be thinking about those police officers that gave their lives that evening. and all of them, you know, from what i'm being told were gentle giants, fun people to be around. baseball fanatics. so i think we really need to focus on the victims and not so much on this suspect. >> this hits home when you see those faces on there. >> it does. rod wheeler live from the crime scene in dallas which will be shut down until basically wednesday. thanks, rod. >> that's right. >> thanks, rod. well, celebrities across the country coming forward to condemn the brutal murders of five police officers in dallas, except for beyonce. why she is not saying a word. and then the black lives matter supporters praising the dallas sniper attack saying it's, quote, unfortunate there weren't more dead cops. "

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welcome back. time now for news by the numbers. first, the woman voted number 45 on the list of natsiest tv villains now has a new job on donald trump's campaign. only rosa will join trump at the national convention in cleveland. first, $15 an hour how much minimum wage workers will earn under the democrats new party platform. the party caving to bernie sanders once again agreeing to make that change last night. 200,000, that's how much allowance former presidents will get under a new bill that just cleared the house.

this puts a limit on how many taxpayer dollars are spent on post presidential duties. as the horror was unfolding many black lives matter supporters took to twitter to celebrate the murder of five brave officers. here is one tweeting this don't feel bad for those pigs and another saying aw it's unfortunate there wasn't more. this movement sun american. here now to debate this jackson and political commentator lisa. kevin, first to you, how do you respond to these tweets last night coming from black lives matter supporters? >> well, we knew it was happening. it wasn't like it was a the days of ferguson, all these guys were saying pigs in a blanket and the whole thing.

we knew leading up to this that the animus towards police officers in the black community was alive and well. and, in fact, it was growing. and the problem is nobody addressed it. nobody said we're going to stand for law and order and make sure the people understand we're going to protect the people that have to protect the citizens of america. so i'm not surprised, honestly. >> lisa, were you surprised at the response? >> i'm actually not surprised at the response because, as you know, in this country, we are built on retaliation. america retaliates against their enemies. america retaliates against people who are terrorists and when somebody terrorizes america or harms america in any way from other countries, what do we do? we bomb them. we murder them. and a lot of times innocent victims get killed in the crossfire. that's just a part of the job. now, when you have an issue like, this not that i agree with it not that i think that micah johnson was somebody that should have been doing something like that. it's horrific either way. but maybe because he grew up

in a country that was built on this kind of retaliation he might have felt, i don't know, he might have felt that this was very apropos. the police officers ran through the black community and murdered black people like they were pigs in the streets. they shot people in the back. several individuals over the last week. and he might have felt like in this country when our enemy harms us we retaliate. is that good thinking? absolutely not. but this is what happens when you have -- >> --lisa is making the point that this is somehow justified, kevin. >> not at all. >> no, no. >> community thinking because in this country a lot of times people retaliate against their enemies and this man was maybe warped, however. >> i heard what you said, lisa, i heard what you said. >> it's wrong on all sides. wrong for the police to murder. >> lisa. >> slay black men in the streets just as it's wrong formica johnson to kill cops. >> are you going to let me talk. >> kevin, your tiewrn. >> exactly. first of all, the idea that lisa says we are in a country that is harming

black people as a black president sits and as a top law enforcement officer in the country is ridiculous. loretta lynch and before her i can't even remember his name, but the point is black people are in charge of this country. the people in the cities where all these blacks are supposedly being killed are black folks. they are the people that they vote for. they are democrats. what lisa is explaining is the absolute nonsense that circulates in the black community that you can't get ahead in this country and there is somebody against them. the fact of the matter is, in america there is nobody targeting black people. i have gone through the statistics. to date of the 561 people who have been killed by police, 136 of them are black. so who are the other people, lisa? so, this -- what's happening here, clayton, is blacks are being taught to be racist. they are taught to be ignorant of the actual facts of what this country -- >> -- black people cannot be racist because we don't have the power to be racist.

black people did not hang white people. black people did not rape white people in slavery. black people did not enslave white people. black officers white neighborhoods killing and shooting white people in the back. black people are not stopping whites from getting housing. black people are not stopping whites from getting jobs. no, we are not racist. racism denotes power. we don't have the power to do that. and one black president in 176 years of 43 presidents does not mean we have black control in this country. we have one black president after 176 years. all of the sudden we are great? kevin, stop playing those games. you know -- you know the situation. are you crazy? >> lisa? >> what about the admission black communities this morning. >> i have an answer to that. i love that. >> you have an answer, when you for everything. >> when you have people criticizing the black lives movement they really care about the block community,

why wouldn't they be addressing the black on black crime in cities like chicago where there are murders ever two hours in the city of chicago? >> first of all, murdering in your own community is intraracial. let's clear, this i have said it a million times on fox before. >> it's okay, right, lisa. >> murders in the white community are performed by whites. most murders in the black community are performed by blacks. so murders, usually are interracial. so don't intraracial. don't say that only black people are killing their own people. white people kill me with that low brow statement. stop playing games. the fact is all races kill their own races generally. so it's not something that's only black community. >> i'm not going to talk over her. >> lisa, let kevin respond. >> i'm not going to talk over her. >> thank you. >> the fact of the matter is -- everything that lisa says is absolute abject nonsense. everything she has is an excuse for the behaviors

that are going on in the black community. what lisa doesn't want to talk about is the fact that there are people out there targeting police officers. police officers are not -- they are hot homogenous in color. hetero genius. blacks, hispanics, whites, everyone. being targeted by people that they're trying to protect. lisa doesn't want to talk about the number of police officers. >> i do. >> going into the black community to actually solve crimes. crimes committed by blacks in more racial per capita than any other racial group. she doesn't want to talk about the group. >> 86% of the murders in all communities. >> i listen to do you talk. why don't you just settle down for a second. >> we have to send it there. >> and we have got to end it there we have to remove the coffee from the set this morning. let's lower it thank you, guys. we appreciate the debated heat this morning. kevin and lisa thank you to you both. coming up on the show. bill nye the science guy used to call the bible dangerous to our children. why is he taking a ride on

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fox news alert this morning. antipolice protests are raging across this country. calling out cops for what they describe as systemic racism. one day after five police officers gunned down in cold blood in dallas. >> i thought this morning when i woke up, this is a dream, right? this didn't really all happen? >> now people around the country showing their support for america's finest. william la jeunesse is life in dallas with more on the scene there good morning, william. >> well, good morning. you know, the mayor and the governor are urging people in the community to come together and not let this single incident divide them. you saw that yesterday, at a local park, where people did come together of all colors to recognize the risk that police officers face every day as well as to recognize the sacrifice of those who died, including lorne ahrens 63, exfootball semi pro.

bought a dinner for a homeless guy the day before. patrick survived three tours in iraq. my daughter will not have her daddy to walk her down the aisle. michael krol, 40 a former jail guard from detroit. he always wanted to be a cop. bret thompson, 43. he married another police officer just two weeks prior. and sergeant michael smith, exarmy ranger, two daughters very active and dedicated life to the church. >> i just started crying and praying and because i have great faith i just know he is in heaven and that is what got me through. i think i'm more worried about the girls and our friends. >> the united way has set up a fund to help the families of the fallen officers. back to you. >> william la jeunesse live for news dallas at the scene there thanks, william. >> well, none of this

happened in a vacuum. we want to take you back. we want to remind you of some of the violent rhetoric we have been hearing from the left including the calls to violence at trump rallies from media outlets. what are they saying now? here is the litany june 6th, 2016, huffington post rab an article sorry liberals a violent response to trump is as logical as any. >> remember this box editor post. tweet. >> i remember that. >> he said advice, if trump comes to your town, start a riot. he pulled that back down. had to apologize. there was some problems with that. >> now we are seeing the results. >> is this where we are at the only way to make a difference is try to create havoc on the street. >> think about the protests in the 1960's and idea of peace marches don't bring up arms not the way to combat this and now what are we seeing? >> here is the problem is the generalization. so a cop shoots a suspect. you may think it was unjustified. you may think it was a

species of murder, that's a fair debate. but to pretend as if that white cop is a stand-in for every white person in america is every bit as wrong as pretending a black criminal represents a black person in america. they are divisive and bull can nice the country. north korea and barack obama make this assumption. >> apologizing for 200 years of history as if we had something to do with the current state of things 200 years ago. lisa was making that argument a few moments ago on the show. it's okay, maybe this perhaps justified violence because of what happened 150 years ago. >> because of the assumptions you are saying from politicians it's become this us versus them. >> of course. >> them versus us. >> this is our society. it's not about all of us. >> as sheriff clarke pointed out certain politicians benefit. the next time you see someone generalize based on a specific set of facts this person shot that person this entire group is in the wrong

and this entire group. that's the definition of a racist. they should be called out for that. >> we have headlines to get this morning. florida democrat indicted on federal fraud charges. charity called one cure for education foundation inc. which she used as her own personal splureb fund. she is accused of pocketing hundreds of thousands of dollars while making just one donation to education. well, a woman is recovering after being attacked by a 10-foot long alligator. the florida woman was swimming with friends in a river when the gator bit her left arm. luckily it let go. copy attacker. found the gaiter in gator in the same spot. taken to the hospital and expected ton type. why is bill nye the science guy who once said the bible is dangerous to our children taking time to visit noah's ark? former tv host bringing

cameras along for visit. the 100-million-dollar part of new film. he received a personal invitation of the owner of christian after he publicly called the exhibit a quote danger to child education. the owner now says he forgives nigh and he can stop by any time he wants. as celebrities across the board react to the dallas shooting, one mega star has kept quiet. beyonce has still not addressed the killing of police officers at black lives matter protest. insta yam and twitter account both silent on murders a day after pleading law enforcement to stop killing black people. 34-year-old has doubled down in support of black lives matter since her controversial super bowl performance. you all remember that those are some of your headlines. >> rick reichmuth is standing by with a look outside with these crazy weather patterns we have been seeing lately. >> summertime, it gets hot, humid, you get a lot of thunderstorms it. is the case. a lot of them going on. take a look at the maps. show you what's going on. temperaturewise, 91 in phoenix right now. what time is it there?

4:30 in the morning. 80 in dallas. really humid, you know, we had a little bit of heat this week across the northeast and everybody really freaked out. really hot across the central part of the country and southeast for a lot of weeks. going to continue. big cool down across the northeast today as storms move through. 65 in nashua. still chilly. spotty afternoon storms. some of them heavy this morning across northern arkansas and we are seeing flooding going on along with that see this afternoon storms there. i think the severe weather is where you see that in across parts of the red river valley there. fargo is where we could be seeing severe weather later on in the at a. maybe on toward pierce, north dakota. humid in north platte as well. rain showers, keeping temps cooler as well. still warm across the desert southwest. and denver 96 and quite

humid as well. send it back to you inside. >> do you get flash flood alerts on your phone. >> i get all kinds of alerts. >> did you get them yesterday? >> no. >> flash flood warning until 9:00 p.m. last night. >> jersey has had big storms causing damage as well. >> it's a danger here in midtown. >> thanks a lot, rick. >> you bet. >> not as muggy. >> wonderful. >> just love it. >> bo dietl, dana perino and rudy giuliani all joining us live. >> president obama is cutting his trip overseas short after the dallas attacks but not before making another push for gun control. kevin corke is following the president and he joins us live from there next. remember this incredible photo a bullet hole in a police officers helmet. police officers weren't wearing that kind of hell net. the white house wants to continue the demilitarization of police? is that a good idea?

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a quick check of your headlines this morning, a new crisis for isis. the terror group is suffering from a mass exodus of twitter followers. our administration proudly announcing twitter traffic has plunged 45% in the past two years that means we are winning. and take a look at this isis fighter trying to desperately hide from iraqi chopper. best camouflage come up with putting grass on his head no word if that works. can't even see him. >> wow. >> president obama agreeing to cut his four day trip to europe short flying to dallas in the wake of horrific police shootings. >> this coming after getting flack from many as they accused him of using gun

control agenda. >> kevin corke joins us from warsaw, poland where the president is wrapping up a meeting with nato leaders. good morning, kevin. >> no surprise the president is cutting short his visit here to europe. now, keep this in mind, we knew the nato summit was going to be relatively short. just a couple days. he will wrap this up and then head to madrid where he is expect to do address groups in spain. the white house felt had to make this call and right call to get back home to try to heal a hurting nation. it's also interesting we have been talking a great deal what's been going on. not just the shooting itself but the events that led up to the shooting and obviously what has happened since then. and so many people that have been hurting. would heard the president talking about guns and gun violence again. and that was a message echoed in today's weekly address by the vice president. >> as americans, we're wounded by all of these. it's on all of us to stand up, to speak out about the disparities in our criminal justice system. just as it is in all of us

to stand up for the police who protect our communities every single day. >> moan while the president wrapping up another day here at the nato summit. shortened as he gets ready to head over to spain a remarks to troops. we showed you the comments in the president's weekly address. want to show you what president had to say go guns yesterday. reason give you a sense of what we expect he will say in his trip to texas later this week. take a listen. >> we also know that when people are armed with powerful weapons unfortunately it makes attacks like these more deadly and more tragic. and in the days ahead weaver going to have to consider those realities as well. >> so you see the way they're going to talk about this issue. yes, there is violence. yes, we have to support the police and all law enforcement for that matter. the white house will continue to hammer this point home that guns and gun

violence are part of this issue? now, there are a lot of people feel like listen, the time something wrong. let the country heal. deal with that some other time because this politicizes it. that's how a lot of people feel. the white house will tell you they told me this week the president has the platform and he has the perspective that he should be talking about this at every opportunity. we will see how that plays in the lone star state this week. guys? >> all right. kevin corke. live for news poland. thank you. >> coming up on the show we have a loaded show for you bo dietl is here. dana perino and rudy giuliani will be here live. >> remember this incredible photo a bullet hole in orlando police officer's helmet. >> dallas officers weren't wearing that kind of equipment two nights ago. the white house doesn't want them to. one sheriff here to respond. fair and balanced debate coming up. if you need advice for your business,

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the chief makes decisions at times that people could be critical of deescalated too much. do you put too much body armor on? if we're all being critical of those things just think about today in is what you are risking if you don't do it right. >> that was dallas mayor mike rowling's calling on people to remember that when there are calls for the police to demilitarize this may make them more vulnerable. other advocates saying the police using military

equipment is a threat to civil liberties. for more on this michael bouchard from the sheriff's department joins us. thanks for joining us. >> good morning. >> do you think it's made it harder for police departments to obtain basic equipment like helmets? >> no question. they made a lot of decisions post ferguson when ferguson actually wasn't using de-militarized equipment. it wasn't using, you know that one picture that was outize to do start this whole effort that he undertook to issue the executive order to take a lot of this equipment away. that wasn't a military piece of equipment. and the person on top wasn't even a police officer. he was from the national guard. so, they used it really an image, as a perception to really further an agenda which is to take equipment from police. and my fundamental question i posed to the president and to the person, his point person on this. if an armored vehicle pulls up every day in a grossry

store or bank to protect money why is it for a police department or sheriff's office to have the same piece of equipment to pull up if that grocery store or bank is being robbed to protect people. >> i don't think any normal person would be against defensive equipment, helmets, body armor, et cetera, maybe even armored vehicles. >> but they are called. they called them tanks. they actually removed every tracked vehicle in america because it looked too militarized. no offensive capability whatsoever. it's all perception not the reality of use. because track vehicles are used in deep snow or sand as rescue vehicles but no police departments have them anymore. he took ours away the day san bernardino was actually playing out. >> interesting. let's talk about the offensive military equipment the police departments have all of a sudden including drones and robotic vehicles. we learned yesterday that the man micah johnson, the shooter in dallas was killed by a bomb delivered by a robot. what do you make of that? does that make you

uncomfortable? >> well, first of all, there are no weaponized drones or unmanned aircraft in police inventory in america. secondly, though robots are typically used for observation. we used one when a police officer was killed in our county. he actually shot up throw robots during that day. we sent him to see where he was. if he had been taken down in running gun battle after he killed police officer. what they did was strapped something to one of those. there is not offensive capabilities in police departments. you improvise based on the situation. understand, unlike. >> there was a bomb attached. where would a police department get a bomb and can we look forward to more police departments using bombs against suspects? >> they wouldn't have had a palm. what they would have had was maybe c 4 or other device for breaching or rescuing hostages from a building. they manipulated into that in order to deal with that situation where they thought he had a bomb and they couldn't approach him for fear that somebody would be killed from an explosive

device. >> that makes sense. >> they took what they thought was the safest action. >> sheriff, i appreciate your coming on this morning. i'm sorry we are out of time. thanks a lot for that perspective. >> sure thing. >> how can we end the war against police officers? bo dietl joins us in just a minute. ♪ so nice, so nice. ♪ st. john a real paradise. this summer experience us virgin islands nice. book 4 nights at visitusvi.com before july 16th to receive the 4th night free, plus $350 in spending credits.

good morning, it is saturday july 9th, 2016. i am be a pay huntsman and this is a fox news alert. an at this cop protesters strike again, erupting into new demonstrations overnight in cities across the country. and this morning, a serious warning from the fbi. >> it wasn't long after the dallas attacks democrats started pushing for more gun control. >> republicans, what on earth -- why are you recalling and not giving us a debate on gun violence? >> was the shooting really about guns or a man with a vendetta looking to kill cops? bo dietl is here to respond on that. >> hillary clinton wants to correct the record on behalf of the fbi director. watch this.

>> do you acknowledge you were extremely careless? >> well, i think that director clarified that comment to some extent. >> yeah. he didn't really mean it. we have got much more on that story and on many others rocking this country this morning. stick with us. ♪ ♪ >> from coast to coast last night, black lives matter protesters taking over city streets again to show their anger over the latest rash of police-involved shootings. >> one of the largest protesters in the city of atlanta where marchers brought traffic to a dead stand still shutting down a major interstate that runs through that city even though the protests were peaceful. reports say some officers on riot gear were spat on, slapped and have water bottles thrown at them which weren't peaceful at all. barricades keep demonstrators from reaching

a freeway. cops in riot gear began shooting beanbag guns as. >> several hundred protesters gathered across the street from the baton rouge headquarters. blocking highway leading to arrest of a dozen people. some with riot shields and batons cleared the streets pushing protesters back to the sidewalk. joining us now with the very latest on the investigation out of dallas is former d.c. homicide detective and fox news contributor rod wheeler who is in dallas. rod, what can you tell us at this hour? >> good morning. a clearer picture is beginning to emerge about this suspect makai johnson. a couple things i learned recently one is that back in 2012 he was deployed to afghanistan for about 12 months. 2012 2000 12, 2013. put out of the military and presumably someone had accused him of sex afterharassment, so we are learning that about him the fbi as well as the dallas

police department executed a search warrant of his home. this is interesting. here are some things that they found. they found an arsenal of weapons inside this guy's house that included ballistics vest. heavy duty weapons. a lot of ammunition and i think the most profound thing that they found is a journal that this guy was keeping of combat activities. this guy was actually practicing for what he did the other day according to neighbors and reports this guy was in the backyard rehearsing the type of attack that he did. we are learning more about this guy micah johnson. >> in dallas rod wheeler, thank you. >> we want to bring in bo dealings this morning. have you had a day to sort of let this settle down. really upset yesterday joining us on the show. now we are seeing protests

unfolding overnight. you saw black lives matter protesters all across the country last night police in riot gear pushing people back on the sidewalks. people blocking roadways so other people couldn't use public highways. your response to seeing all this unfold yesterday afternoon. >> i really have been thinking about it i done 15 shows yesterday for fox, radios and all that start to weigh it out and getting email from all over the country police officers sending emails when a kid's bike broke down they put the bike in the trunk. when someone enters their house they call the police. cop walks in there and searches the house. these are things under their oath they don't swear so. they swear to their oath thovment there are cops out there. i will give you statistics because i think it's so important. i'm ready to join black lives matter today. i would like to join it here are some statistics, 4500 black matters are going to

die at the hand of other black americans this year. of that there is approximately 100 killed by cops. 90% of them are justifiable shootings by cops. my point is i will join black lives matter but let's start dealing with the black lives being killed in our inner cities. everybody wants to throw away rudy giuliani talked about it yesterday, a great segment with him. i get outranged that this thing is getting so big and getting its own life and people don't understand the real facts. i say today i will join. i want to be part of black lives matter. i want to march in chicago and stop the killing of our young black americans. what we're talking about now with the cop killings, all right, i don't support anything in a videos, but we have a jury system. what are we supposed to do lynch cops of pause what we saw in a video. we saw a second half of the video after the. we have a jury system to take and shoot 12 cops and

kill five heroic cops in dallas is not justifiable. you have people actually saying well, this is us -- we are going to do one for five. you kill one of ours we will kill five. let's ease it counsel. let's brings it down. if any of these conversations or discussions that we have been having the last few days. realize we have a problem in our inner cities. we have a problem with the rhetoric against police officers all over the country. these guys don't go out there to kill people. >> wait a second. you haven't been listening to the president. he has made a different point. he has said not just what you are saying which those videos are hard to justify and appalling when you see them. this is the experience of all black people. this is a problem of racism does that kind of rhetoric inflame a situation or calm it down. >> we have a president almost eight years that has been in office. we have such a divide. why don't people understand you have this operation blue shield? i was in dallas with the chief there, with mayor rowling's, three weeks ago like i told you yesterday

operation blue shield is bringing the cops to the inner -- why don't we get answers instead of the violence we want to commit against each other. some cops are bad like the fellow that was running for president was talking about surgeons. we have surgeons on a psychopath that shouldn't be surgeons. you take them out. cops that are lunatics take them out. to take a prod brush and condemn cops. i talk to cops outside. i talk to cops everywhere. i actually -- my insides -- these poor guys and ladies are not able to do their job. i want cops to feel good. i want the cop listen to me as get older you can help me in my apartment i can't walk anymore. i want that cop to help me in my wheelchair. that's part of being a cop is loving people. so many more ancillary things do you take a kid home who is lost. talk to a young kid that's violent. this is part of being a cop. >> that's a concern too

today what this does to the psyche of our police officers. look at the statsd 2016, 26 police officers that have been killed. that's up 44% just from last year in 2015. when something like this happens two nights ago in dallas you think about our police officers and how they continue to go about their day. >> and the majority of the 100 killed by officers, black americans killed by officers, during the commission of crimes. these are justifiable homicides where a guy is shooting at a cop, a cop shoots back or he has done something and he has committed a crime and that the cop has to go there. things, i don't like anyone to die. i don't want to see anybody die, but you have cops are out there. and like when they blew up that guy with the bomb down in dallas. everyone says oh they blew him up. were they supposed to wait for that guy to shoot some more. gave him opportunity. what if he got lucky with his gun and put one between the eyes of the service emergency eyes. oh i'm sorry? i don't want to see anybody die, also not copses die

wrongly like that. >> hillary clinton talking yesterday about listening. the reason we are having this problem is because white people aren't listening. we need to listen more. that's the root of this problem. >> when i listen to and when i'm not on the shows here, i'm a fox contributor, i listen to cnn just such inflammatory stuff going back and forth. at least here at fox we throw all sides of it listen to giuliani, excellent. you listen to sheriff clarke. things they say rched people don't want to listen. hillary clinton i don't want to listen because that's not her agenda. she goes to the african-american episcopal church there she is saying what people want to hear. i don't want this division. i will say it again today. bo dealings one tough cop will join black lives matter. straight continue out and let's demonstrate in inner cities. let's protect all blacks and all americans and stop the nonsense. this thing is getting tumultuous and worse and

worse because people watch tv. i was watching hannity and people don't know why they are there. they were asked a simple question and don't know how to answer because they dent know what is going on. we also saw the part of the video where videotaped. if that cop is responsible for killing that guy, he should be prosecuted. if the guys in louisiana are responsible for unjustly killing that guy prosecuted him. as far as i'm concerned, 99% of these cops, men and women are out there to help america. so let's all get together. >> why wait for a trial when the president. >> go hang them. string them up. that's what they want to do. >> mr. constitutional scholar, i notice. yeah. bo, great to see you this morning. >> i love coming here because we tell the truth here. >> amen. >> real passion. you can feel it. we have other headlines we want to get to this morning. president obama agreeing to cut his four day trip to europe short flying to dallas in the wake of this

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[chanting] >> pigs in a blanket ♪ fry them like bacon ♪ pigs in a blanket ♪ fry them like bacon. >> gosh, it's horrible. even as the country mourns the live of five different officers. this attack is spreading all across social media. >> shear a sampling of the disgusting tweets we found. quote hopefully this boy in dallas is getting kill shots on these pigs. quote procedure in dallas sniping pigs. >> forget praying for dallas, that's what happens after years of abuse. i don't feel sorry. y'all pigs got what was come for y'all. >> what's inside the minds of people that would post such horrific things lick that? >> here now to try to help us understand what's going

on is psychiatrist former mental health policy fellow at the u.s. senate. a body that needs it badly. >> thank you for joining thus morning. >> just horrible. >> this seems like human evil. is there -- what's the psychiatric explanation for it? >> you know, as human beings, we tend to be much more emotional than logical. people are just angry and they are fed up. i treat police officers in my office every week. and they feel like they have become endangered species and they can't do their job. so i think that rhetoric like this is just inflammatory and creates division and makes it harder for us to find a peaceful solution. >> we talk about the generalizing and people joining this mob mentality without thinking through what they are throwing their hat into the ring with. all these tweets, they are painting people with a broad brush here what about that? can you address the mob mentality? we are going to jump on board without actually having any facts to back up our decisions? >> there is sort of a con teenaging effect when you are in a crowd of people and crowd of people are shouting

this kind of stuff it becomes a wildfire and it spreads all jo jik goes out the window and jump on the bag wagon without getting it through. >> how do you get people to change the way they think reading off tweets. any of us on twitter you see awful things facebook instagram or twitter the world we live. in how how do you get people to change their mind stuck in way. >> social media can be used to spread information to bring us closer on the other hand, people are rooms in relative anonymity and feel much more embolden to do say things that they wouldn't say to someone's face that they have no problem saying on the internet. >> speaking of double edged sword there is a move to basically record everything including police interactions with the public. obviously upside to this. what do you think the downside is? >> i think the problem is where you start the video. i think a lot of these incidents there is information that we don't see, for example, in this

most recent incident, you know, we don't know what happens before the video starts. different people will view a video differently. people will take a different perspective. i don't think the video is the catch-all answer for everything. i think it would be helpful to have more information. a lot of times we don't have the full story even with the video. >> even social media people are yelling get out of here. out of here. that's okay i'm live streaming right now. >> more important than saving my own life. >> we are living in reality tv phenomenon where people are more concerned about the attention they are getting than the substance of what is going on at a time. to me that's disturbing. >> that's a bad place to be. >> thanks so much for joining us. i appreciate it. >> coming up on the show. they protect illegal immigrants and i will nor federal law. justice department sending a message to sanctuary cities. what they did will have you stunned. >> and then hillary clinton says white people share the blame for the dallas sniper attack. she actually said that watch. >> white americans need to do a better job of listening. when african-americans talk.

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welcome back with quick headlines now. state and local governments protecting dangerous illegal immigrants and so-called sanctuary cities could now lose federal grants. the justice department adopting a new policies earlier this week warning those areas to stop shielding illegal immigrants from deportation. and is the u.s. too dangerous to visit? well, in the wake of protests around the u.s. officials in the bahamas issued an official travel advisory for the states. the warning saying young men in particular should be careful in cities where tensions are boiling over police shootings. and hillary clinton calling on white people and police to change to help reduce the

amount african-americans killed in exchanges with law enforcement. listen to this. >> i will call for white people like myself to put ourselves in the shoes of those african-american families who fear every time their children go somewhere, who have to have the talk about, you know, how to really protect themselves when they are the ones who should be expecting protection from encounters with the police. i'm going to be talking to white people. i think we're the ones who have to start listening to the legitimate cries that are coming from our african-american fellow citizens. >> so why did she say that? and what exactly does it mean? dana perino is, of course, the former press secretary for president george w. bush and host of the five and she joins us now. dana, i'm sure there is a political reason for saying this. i find it awful and divisive. she is implicating every person who is white simply

because the officer involved is white. all people with the same appearance are somehow imindicated in this. if she had said the sniper is black. black people are responsible and need to listen by me' among others. how can she get away from saying that. >> one of the question that is seen as pandering. if you are for hillary clinton and already plan to vote for her you think that was smart and wonderful. and if you were not planning to vote for her you think how dare you? what i thought was really interesting. she came off of a really bad week, okay? so basically the fbi director said she is reckless, careless, and she didn't even know what she was doing, how could she possibly be the most qualified person ever to run for president of the united states as president obama said on tuesday. she has this bad week. there is this horrible situation not only in dallas but unfolding as have you been showing this morning all across the country. instead of directing the blame at the individual, okay, she is blaming the white people of the country. and that i think, david french yesterday in national

review wrote a great piece leaders at this time have a responsibility to try to calm things down and be reasonable and try to pump the brakes. that's not what she did yesterday. although in her mind she probably thought so. both things can be true. what she was saying put yourself in somebody else's shoes. i think that's not bad idea. >> of course everyone is for empathy. >> at the moment when this is unfolding plus you have the police chief in dallas who is african-american and done by every account done everything right in terms of what the left would happen more diverse police force. more focus on community policing and, yet, this happens in his city and the individual, actually, has not been getting as much of the blame as everybody else. >> this all comes, of course, as president obama is not here he has spoken in poland. cutting his trip short after going to spain. >> i would cut him a lot of slack for that so he is the president of the united

states. there is nate know meeting. arguably that is one of the most important meetings at this point because you have the refugee crisis spurred by isis and more isis plefer ration all through europe. recalcitrant russia more of a bully than ever. nato meeting more important. proved my theory. every time the president of the united states goes out of the country something huge happens domestically. very unusual to cut short a trip. he doesn't do it often. he thought george w. bush overreact to do tragedy he doesn't like to do it. in this case when the mayor invites him to come back it's the right thing to do. he should come back. >> he also talked about he said we didn't have all the facts in his speech yesterday in warsaw. he didn't have all the facts talk about gun control. right move? >> nobody is going to change president obama in terms of talking about gun control. he has six months left in presidency. talked about it in every instance. he believes it's one of the failings of his presidency that he wasn't able to do something on gun control. again, i don't think that is the solution because every law that they have put forward would not actually solve the problems at hand.

i'm a persuadable person on gun control but nobody has been able to persuade me on the facts. >> you know what else is persuadable is your podcast which is the most popular apparently here at fox news. >> it is chris stirewalt and i started a podcast we never named it because we didn't want it to be permanent pause we weren't sure how it is going to go. the no name podcast. this week's issue episode we talk about dallas. we talk about the convention, vice presidential picks and also what's supposed to happen with the electoral map come november. >> go to itunes and subscribe. i'm going to check it out. >> how long is it? >> depends on how long i'm feeling. anywhere 25 minutes. yesterday i was really on fire and also the end of every podcast, i try to nail chris with a trivia question. is he an expert. >> does he ever get it wrong? >> very, very rarely does he get it wrong. and i won't tell you what he did yesterday. >> go subscribe right now no name podcast. thanks, dana. >> thanks, dana.

>> democratic congresswoman claiming she was giving scholarships to poor students. now accused of using that charity as a special slush fund. details ahead. >> black lives matter praising attack saying it's unfortunate there weren't more dead cops. how do you've get people to show respect to the police? next guest might have that answer.

and welcome back. a fox news alert. hectic scenes out of dallas keep our country on edge this morning. five of our nation's finest killed in cold blood all while protecting the same people protesting them. now, a memorial built around a cop cruiser piled high with flowers, balloons, and words of encouragement at this hour. many people taking the opportunity to thank the officers that guard us every day, like this crowd lined up to give a lug and lend support. as dallas police officers mourn the loss of five brave men, black lives matter protesters are deadly ambush with tweets like this. >> i welcome the news from the american police have got a taste of their own medicine #black lives matter. but earlier on the show al vida king says this violence goes against the message of dr. martin luther king. >> my uncle dr. martin luther king jr. my dad reverend a.d. king, his brother, believed in a beloved community.

and there are six steps of nonviolent conflict resolution so the black lives matter movement may maybe needs to examine those nonviolent steps of conflict resolution. so the message would be pray, trust god, repent, america, and come back to god and resolve this peacefully. >> so what else can wee we do to bridge this deep divide tearing this country apart. founder of watch dog guard 27 rafferty. gentleman moon green is fox news contributor and sheriff and president of new york's sheriff's association is christopher moss. all of you, welcome to the show. so much to get to this morning. i want to dive right into this. listen to any time you protest you want to have a peaceful message. can we connect exactly what happened in dallas to black

lives matter? obviously they were having a meeting. unfortunately, a lot of the tweets that you mentioned are correlated or connected to, i just think that they have to get a message you know what? not every police officer is bad. if we want to protest bad cops, which there are some out there. let's do that police officers in general don't put this uniform on every day and go out and say boy is today the day i'm going to shoot somebody or shoot a back individual? >> that's a great point this generalization we have been seeing. response on twitter. these tweets basically painting all police officers with one brush. woe see one shooting on videotape. we don't have all the facts on it yet. an investigation should go forward it seems like this sort of mob mentality on twitter shoot all cops. go out there for every one of ours that you should we are going to shoot five of yours. >> clearly the bad apples on twitter you can't say represent an entire movement. the leaders of black lives matter movement have come out and said that they are in this to do this peacefully. they are about trying to get people to understand the

lack of dehumanization that has happened to black men in america and the relationship that is fundamentally broken between cops it is possible to think that black men should not be shot unarmed for just being pulled over and also at the same time to love and respect the service of the police officers who protect us every day. there does not have to be some either/orson narrow. if we can say one cannot survive in the same way, then we are not part of the solution. when you play a sound bite of hillary clinton saying that white americans need to do more without also saying that she was very clear we cannot and must not vilify cops, that was also a part of her speech yesterday. those two things have to exist together. -- death of these men in dallas if we can take this from this situation and try to have a more nuanced conversation, that is going to honor the role that they played and the sacrifice that they made.

anything else, the finger pointing, the lack of understanding, the lack of the ability to say that you both want black men to be safe and think that the police should be reveered in the way that they serve our country, those two things exist in the same space and black lives matter is not represented by those tweets. >> i think there is a lot of hypocrisy because i think you have very good points but the whole thing is if you say some of those tweets do not represent the black lives matter movement than you can't say a few cops who make mistakes if that is believed represents the whole law enforcement there is a lot of contradictions on both ends. i do a lot for the black communities, spending my time in the police department. i think a lot of these people who have this urge to do something for communities, let them sign up for the police department? i spent 13 plus years of my life serving the black community. i never saw cops going out there targeting people by race. we went out there to target criminals. people lose touch it's only the police department that are brexiting these neighborhoods. >> sheriff, final word, what

would you want to hear from your leaders? president obama this morning? >> yeah. i mean i think our federal leaders at the national level, state leaders, they need to play a big ol role and say you know what? i think at the core of this problem lack of educational, employment opportunities, housing opportunities in the urban areas. it's a huge problem. not going to be solved in a short period of time and in the short-term i say no violence. obviously we don't need the violence. cops are out there to do their job. it's a tough job and i don't think anybody is out there intentionally out there to hurt individuals. >> sheriff, jehmu, we appreciate you this morning. over to you. >> quick headlines to get to now. a florida democrat indicted on federal fraud charges. korean brown pleading not guilty charges of charity one door. alleged she used as her own personal slush fund. she is accused of pocketing hundreds of thousands of dollars while making one donation to education. a hearings is s. set for july 26th.

beyonce finally speaking out about the death of five police officers more than a kay after the dallas shooting rampage. silent on the murders a day after pleading for law enforcement to stop killing black people at this concert. 34-year-old has doubled down in support of black lives matter since her controversial super bowl performance. and frozen disney star kristin bell blast donald trump for blasting film into dallas star controversy ♪ let it go ♪ let it go. >> trump was accused of anti-semitism after he tweeted out this picture of hillary clinton and the star of david defending himself he compared it to the star used in the animated mega hit but he told bell the business mogul -- bell told the business mogul to get his priorities in check saying get your head out of your butt. we have more important things to talk about today

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can use it to hide their hacks. >> in the wake of the deadly dallas ambush, push for gun control. it was almost immediate. the president, the attorney general, and jesse jackson all came out for more gun control. here is a lesson. shear a montage of what we are taking about, watch. >> if you look at the number of the balance of it, the companies are killing far more people. cops should not be killing people. we don't need to get argument who kill the most should not be killing. easy access to high powered weapons is a danger to american security. does not make sense to be fighting wars against weapons of mass destruction buy online weapons that can bring down airplanes. it's totally irrational in the name of second amendment. >> well, just to clarify what the reverend said, you cannot actually buy surface-to-air missiles, quote, online, not possible. but the real question is, is that the lesson of what we saw in dallas? so this attack was

perpetrated by a u.s. army reserve veteran who obviously had legal access to firearms. >> so maybe a broader question about mental illness and access to guns there. as dana said earlier it was a great point. i'm persuadable on this issue. >> right. >> of gun legislation if there is something proposed that would actually do something to stop violence like this. but there has been nothing we have seen on the floor of congress recently that would have done anything to address what we saw in orlando or in dallas. >> a lot of people. >> would there be in any of this legs is there? >> no. only one thing to do to stop gun violence and that's ban all guns take every gun from every civilian in the united states. >> that's not the problem here. >> well, of course not. >> what happened two nights ago. it's a much deeper problem that we are facing. you have the us versus them. them versus us. living in two different worlds. >> here is a guy spouted rhetoric of black lives matter murdering police. you have seen black lives matter protesters chant kill

the pigs. here is a guy who actually acted on that. and somehow the firearm is to blame. guilty verdict people espouse hateful rhetoric. >> can i say just a shoutout to the dallas mayor and the dallas chief of police who were speaking out of how politicians should handle these situations? they weren't talking about gun control. they weren't talking about anything like that. they were talking about bringing people together. they were honest. they were real. they were emotional. they were transparent. they were everything you wanted to get from a leader during a time that people are hurting so much. >> they are not drawing cheap and broad and unsupported conclusions from a story that was still unfolding whose facts they didn't fully -- >> -- coming up here on the show. 30 years after he was shot and nearly killed in the line of duty. a new york city detective returns to the scene of the crime. is he here next alongside his son who followed in his footsteps with an inspiring story for the families suffering such horrific loss in dallas. >> and dallas is mourning the loss of five of their

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welcome back. in the aftermath of dallas, we honor lives of fallen officers and look for ways. >> an inspiring and amazing story of triumph over tragedy. peter johnson jr. joining us with a special guest. good morning, peter. >> good morning, tucker. how are you? this is an incredible morning.

i'm here with two dear friends. 200 feet behind me, on july 12th, 1986, stephen mcdunn was shot by a 15-year-old african-american boy, really. he went on to forgive that young men and then mentor him until that young man died after he served some time in jail. so i'm here with stephen and his son, connor mcdonald who followed in his father's footsteps and generational police officers in new york. stephen, good morning, how are you? >> good morning. >> reporter: make sense for us about what went on in dallas and what we need to do as americans in terms of coming together and supporting our police and dialogue between white and black americans. >> i know it's too familiar. stories how they end for us, our

thoughts and prayers for everyone involved and i just ask god that through his grace, what peace we need will come to us. >> you and your courageous wife was in a matter of weeks decided to forgive shavad buddha jones who put you on a respirator for the last 30 years while connor was there inside your dear wife about to be born. why did you decide too th do th? >> you were there. you can remember all the good feel of all different backgrounds and faiths that prayed for us and i think that prayers were answered and that i said yes to this thought, idea, to forgive him would be better for both him and myself.

>> there's no coincidence in life. there's god-incidence and as a police officer, it's your responsibility to serve in the steps of jesus and the lord. what does that mean? >> well, it was the best way for me to move forward in my life to free myself of any anger that i might have been left with after the shooting. i think the proof is that i'm here 30 years later doing my job. >> and talking about forgiveness and redemption. connor, tell us why you became a police officer and tell us how you feel, ten minutes ago, an african-american woman walking your dog came by and said to your father, thank you, steven mcdonald, for continuing to do what you do and said her husband has been a police officer and she was crying as she walked away. how does that make you feel and

what is the future for us living together in this country? >> you know, this is a great city that helped my family 30 years ago, and i felt obligated. for me, i thought the best place to do that was new york city that gave my family a second chance. this is a great city. it's a great country, like you say. the lady came over to us and very, very pleasant lady and she gave all the love and compassion she had. and it's a beautiful country. and we'll be good. >> and you're a courageous police officer as well and you follow in his steps and grandfather's and others in his family. in the last 30 seconds, what's your prayer for america today? >> friend and peace prayer. of st. francis. and lord, make us instruments of

your peace. let us so love and i hope that we're all able to do that in our lives. >> steven and conor mcdonald, blessed be the peacemakers and models for the city and country. back to you in the studio. this is a phenomenal morning with phenomenal people. >> an amazing story. >> that was pretty heavy. thank you. zbl >> inspiring to hear that message after what happened this week. five of their officers gunned down but how is coming into question. should police use bombs on robots? decide a debate on that ahead. rudy giuliani called a racist for saying this about black lives matter. >> if black lives matter was truly concerned about black lives, they'd be concerned about black crime. >> judge alex live next hour.

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collcolle good morning. anti-cop protesters strike again. new demonstrations erupting overnight and a serious new warning from the fbi. and police in dallas praised for taking out the sniper who murdered five of the fellow officers but how they took him out is calling into question. they used a bomb strapped into a robot. could more police departments get those? we'll report and you can decide. and the left furious with former new york city mayor rudy giuliani for saying this. >> if black lives matter was truly concerned about black lives, they'd be concerned about black crime. >> former mayor joins us live to respond this hour. fox and friends hour four starts right now.

these videos hard to watch. keep our country on edge this morning. five of the nation's finest killed in cold blood all while protecting the same people protesting them. new a memorial built around a cop cruiser piled high with words of encouragement at this hour. >> black lives matter taking over streets from coast to coast to show their anger over the latest rash of police-involved shootings. in atlanta, marchers brought traffic to a standstill shutting down a major interstate. >> police used pepper spray several times to keep demonstrators from reaching a freeway and shot bean bag guns and finally in baton rouge, several hundred protesters tried to block a highway and led police to arrest at least a dozen people. >> the vice president of the dallas police association, the

largest police union in dallas and he taught or worked with four of the victims of the deadly ambush and that's exactly where i want to start because i think the focus should be now on the five police officers, the heroes whose lives were taken away. tell us about the men that you knew and how you are coping today. >> well, i think i'm just the same as every dallas officer. we get up in the morning. we put on the uniform. put the vest back on, strap on the boots and go to work like we did two days ago and like we're going to continue doing. >> when you hear the story and the protests around the country this morning and the horrible twitter comments that are coming in, where does that sit with you knowing that these police officers, when the firing started happening, rush to protect the very people that are now taking to twitter and saying horrible things. >> exactly. you know, we had what's a very

peaceful event, it was an event that the police officers and the community walked together. they were talking, they were having good relationships, good conversations. we have a solid relationship here in dallas with our community and our police department. the police administration here in dallas, the dallas police association has done everything we can to make those communications with the public very solid. so to have something like this happen in this city that we haven't really had the type of situations in louisiana, minnesota, new york, and et cetera was very disheartening and to see that five of our fellow officers, four dallas officers were killed like that in the street really bothers me to where our world is coming to. >> that's for sure. it was an act of terrorism but a racial bias crime. the guy said he did out of

raci racial. what do you think of that? >> i don't have much of a comment on the political/social issues. i think this was a criminal act of pure hatred against namely police officers. the fact that they were white police officers, one was hispanic also, i think that's an underlining issue. but this has more to do with the fact that the law enforcement community, the street cop has taken the most blame for social ills and criminal laws that we don't create, we enforce laws. the politicians create the laws. and but yet, we're on the streets and have to take the brunt of the anger of the community. >> because of that hatred, you now have five officers dead and you show the photos on the screen there. it's so real when you see their faces. they had families and stories to tell. these are heroes. you worked with some of them.

tell us about the men we're looking at here. >> i tell you. i'm going to start with lorne ahrens. i worked with him for several years as a patrol officer in the southeast division which is in some of the poor parts of the city, and he was a very opposing person. he was around 300 plus pounds, 6'5". he was a large man and cast a big shadow but never saw him without a smile on his face. he was a big teddy bear but when you needed help, you were thankful he was coming your way and he never turned his back on an officer or the community. he was such a good officer. he was the officer, like all these officers, all the other three officers along with him, the officers dallas wants to patrol our streets. that dallas needs to patrol our streets and to have him murdered like that in the street is just a complete waste.

>> you were at the academy with patrick and michael also. tell us about them. >> you know, teaching at the academy those six years was probably one of the best things i've ever had to do in this department because i got to see these individuals when they showed up as regular joe citizens in their coats and ties and how happy, how proud they were to be starting their careers out as police officers and both mike and pat, they were outstanding, outstanding recruits who turned into exactly what we all thought they were going to be. outstanding police officers and more over, just great human beings. they too were exactly what the city of dallas and the police profession wants and needs. they had the utmost integrity. they came to work every day, giving everything they could to protect the citizens of dallas. and they lost their life doing something that they, it's not like they were answering a call they knew the risk were there. they were protecting protesters

protesting against our own profession and we're okay with that. that's their right. >> they invited their family thinking they were going to come home like any other day and now the family is left with this. patrick's wife posted this. because of this disgusting display of hate, my daughter will not have her daddy to walk her down the aisle and my son won't have his best buddy to play football and baseball. that's so heartbreaking. and eyewitnesses that watched these police officers and heard the shots go off, they ran directly to the danger zone. it was not even a thought that crossed their mind. they went in to save people. >> i was there when the sad news was given to the family about patrick and it was probably the worst day i've ever had on this department to see and to witness and to have to talk to that family that was completely, completely broken down because

there is no sense in what happened in the streets of dallas the other day. >> it's such a tear jerker reading that post. whoa. our viewers are engaged and compassiona compassionate, how can they help these families? >> well, we have the officer foundation, all proceeds, 100% go to these families. at www.atodallas.org. it's very easy to see how to donate on the web site. what they really need, and the citizens of this country, we need everybody's prayers but mostly, their understanding that these officers are trying to do the best job they could possibly do. officers all over this country, we answer anywhere from 15 to 25 calls a day and every one we get out of the car to help the citizens, to do everything we can to do things right. unfortunately, there are situations that, by law, we are

forced, we are forced by law to take people into custody. and we don't have a choice. there's not a choice in that. and we don't like doing it. we don't like doing it in front of their families and their kids. we're forced to do it and they need to understand that we need to do our job and to help us do that job and the place to argue these arrests are not in the streets. it's in the courthouse. >> well said. well said. we're going to link up that web site on our fox and friends web site this morning so if people want to help donate to these families, the community shaken and rattled and all over this country this morning, our hearts go out to you. i appreciate you joining us this morning. thank you so much. >> thank you, sir. >> thanks. >> that facebook post. it's just so heavy. those kids and the wife have to know their dad was a hero, you know? so awful. some other headlines to get to. cleveland is chasing a security plan in the wake of the dallas

attack. the police chief not giving specific details but said the department would tweak its deployment plans. shipping officers around the downtown area. a new tip line as well as the call in suspicions for the overflow of people at the rnc and hillary clinton correcting the record on behalf of fbi director james comey after calling her extremely careless when it came to handling classified material in her e-mail. >> do you acknowledge you were extremely careless? >> i think the director clarified that comment to some extent. >> at last check, he did not. clinton stood by her claims that she did not send classified information despite the fbi's report. state and local governments protecting dangerous illegal immigrants and sanctuary cities

could lose federal grants. adopting the new policies earlier this week warning the areas of shielding immigrants from deportation. like a year ago when kate steinly was murdered at the hands of an illegal immigrant. a san diego area couple helping donald trump get a head start on his big beautiful wall. they just finished laying the first 52 cinder blocks this week, about 22 yards north of the mexican border. right now, the wall may be small but it is adorned with an american flag and a donald trump campaign sign. given mr. trump's promise to make mexico pay for the wall, they sent a bill to the president of mexico because it was made in the usa. it was slightly marked up. $4,635. $14 for parts and labor. >> wow. eco-friendly wall as well.

>> 14,000. has mexico paid? >> i don't know, i think we're still waiting. we'll bring you that news. >> $14,635. >> that was union built wall. >> is that cheaper? >> ouch. coming up, president obama cutting his trip oversshort ove. following the president in poland and joining us live from warsaw next. american mayor rudie giuliani called a racist for saying this about black lives matter. >> if black lives matter was truly concerned about black lives, they'd be concerned about black crime. >> mr. mayor joins us live on the couch to respond.

welcome back. president obama agreeing to fly to dallas in the wake of this week's horrific police shootings. >> this coming after getting many as they accused of using him to advance the gun control agenda. >> the president wrapping up with nato leaders. kevin, good morning. >> reporter: you're right. the president is wrapping up this trip a day early and the nato summit itself was a couple of days. he'll leave for poland and make his way to madrid to address american based personnel but wrapping up the trip and let's be honest. a hurting nation needs to have its president at home. so the white house will send the president back based on his decision to get back to the u.s. to help the healing process begin in dallas, texas. the drama that unfolded there hurting so many and i want to share with the folks at home

what the vice president, joe biden, had to say about it in this week's weekly address. >> in these days and weeks ahead, we continue to offer our thoughts and prayers and provide comfort to the brokenhearted family. but the only way we're redeemed by courage and action that honor memories. at this time of testing, we can't be pulled apart. we are americans with bonds that hold us together. we endure. we evovercome, and we stand together. >> standing together following the surge of police-related violence in minnesota, texas, george, and beyond. president making his way, some criticize him for bringing up the issue of guns and gun violence, that is, in the aftermath of the shootings in dallas, texas. listen to what the president said following the shooting. >> we also know that when people

are armed with powerful weapons, unfortunately, it makes these more tragic. and in the days ahead, we're going to have to consider those realities as well. >> the white house will say the president should use his platform and his perspective to bring up this issue no matter. >> kevin in poland. satellite might have been gone down. >> president coming back to dallas. cutting that trip short. we'll try to check back in with kevin later on the show. meanwhile, this. left is furious with rudy giuliani, former new york mayor, for saying this. >> if black lives matter was truly concerned about black lives, they'd be concerned about black crime. >> rudy giuliani joining us on

the couch straight ahead. a message for omarosa. you are hired. then police in dallas are praised for taking out the sniper who gunned down five of the fellow officers but how they killed them is a point of controversy. a bomb strapped to a robot. could this be common in our country? if you need advice for your business, legalzoom has your back. our trusted network of attorneys has provided guidance to over 100,000 people just like you. visit legalzoom today. the legal help you can count on. legalzoom. legal help is here.

. welcome back. some quick headlines for you. how does this happen? 130 passengers on a delta flight taken to the wrong airport. they were supposed to be in

rapid city, south dakota but fo found themselves at ellsworth, missing by intended runw warunw. isis trying to find away from the chopper. grabbed a tumble weed. it's like bugs bunny style. former circuit judge. >> good to see you. >> one of the issues arisen out of the horrific attack in dallas is the way in which the perpetrator was taken down after that standoff after shooting five police officers. we now know given the press conference yesterday from the police chief that, in fact, he was killed by a bomb affixed to a robot. we all think it was one of his own bombs, an ied perhaps

carrying on himself they somehow detonated. turns out it was a police department bomb attached to the robot. is this concerning that some have raised or the future of law enforcement in this country? >> well, i don't know if it's the future of law enforcement but i don't have any problem with it. some people complaining about it saying it raises ethical concerns because it will lead to, once it becomes so easy, i guess, to use deadly force in a detached manner, it will lead to more use of deadly force when not necessary but i think that's an unrealistic concern. there has to be an analysis of whether it's appropriate or not. people use it to prevent serious bodily injury to themselves or another person so that calculation goes in when they draw their gun or decide to shoot. to the perpetrator who's getting killed, i don't think it much matters to him whether it's a s.w.a.t. sniper who shoots them

in the head or robot who blows them up. it's without a difference. >> i would never defend this guy. obviously, it goes without saying but you don't think it's a little weird that the u.s. government using bombs against its own citizens? i'm glad this happened, but going forward, doesn't make you uncomfortable at all? >> they're not using indiscriminately bombs and not wiping out a building but the same thing if a sniper shot a hostage taker, which they do all the time. they make a calculated decision. the other officer wants to go through the doorway, more police officers, add a guy who's arm who already killed five and now shooting back at police again. chances are, another police officer, and perpetrator would have gotten killed but at the cost of his life but the fact they decided to use a small device and send it in there to do the same thing that the s.w.a.t. sniper would do doesn't bother me in the least.

but that's improper of what they use. >> it seems like the alternative would have put officers in more danger than they already were in that moment or killing a dog if they sent a dog in there. if you're in a situation that might be the best option, what's wrong with that? >> i'm basically in favor of protecting police officers and other innocent people. they have not gone through and used that method, let's say, and waiting for a s.w.a.t. team to team up and go in there and the guy shot out the window and kill a son or daughter, i'd feel much worse than using a robot to take him out. >> it's like we have drones able to go and kill someone. can you put that in the same category? >> well, no, not in the u.s. you have regulations about the military doing strikes in the u.s. and of course, in that

situation, you do have concerns when you use an explosive device and more concerns than you do if you shoot a bullet but if you're shooting a bullet, you have to worry about it. is it going to penetrate walls or hit on the other side of the wall? with an explosive device, you have to worry about, is there a gas line in the wall? how much damage is the bomb going to cause? is it going to injure nearby people? hopefully they take that into consideration when they use the device but once they've taken the calculated risk, to me, it doesn't matter what method they use. >> thank you, always a pleasure. coming up, democratic congresswoman claimed she was giving scholarships to poor students and now accused of using the charity of the personal plush fund. >> she's a hillary superdeleg e superdelegate. worth mentioning. and rudy giuliani saying this. >> if black lives matter was truly concerned, they would be

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former mayor rudy giuliani. nice to see you. you're coming under fire for comments that you made the other day in the wake of these shootings. this is something that you're used to dealing with, but here's the quote that you put out the other day on nbc. let's teach everyone including the children that the police officers are the reason you're alived. black kid are going to shoot you on the street because that happens more times than police officers. of course, your response this morning was that, the response is that you're a racist now. >> well, if stating the truth is being a racist, then we're in a sad situation in this country. what i just said, what you just quoted, has statistically been the case for all my years in law enforcement. when i was mayor of new york, i took over 1,921 murders the year before i was mayor and brought it down to 500.

mike bloomberg down to 300. i calculate i saved about 7,000 or 8,000 black lives, bloomberg and i together, maybe 12,000. there's no two mayors that saved more black lives in any city, any place in the country. black lives matter hasn't saved anywhere, if they've saved any at all. where's black lives matter when six kids get shot in chicago? by other black kids? the reality is that we're going to only end this whole issue when we get control of these significant amount of violence in urban america. not the rest of the country but urban america in the black community and the police are the ones doing that. ramos were assassinated in a similar fashion. they were protecting a black housing development. they were protecting black children.

that's what our white, black, and hispanic police officers do. and i would like the people of america to know, the new york city police department is a non-white majority police department by design. i helped to do my part in creating. that turned into a non-white police department. mayor bloomberg and me. and mayor de blasio puts police officers on the street, one is asian, one is hispanic. we've done everything we can. we try to train our police to treat the minority community in the same way they treat the other community. the overwhelming majority do that. the overwhelming majority are the reason so many black young children that are alive that would have been dead. black lives matter divides us. you know what they teach.

they treat kill cops. bad cops. >> they exclude non-black people from the meetings. yet the president endorses them. >> they're instigators of violence. >> how can these endorse them? >> if you go online, they advocate and instigate murder. >> rush limbaugh called them a terrorist organization. >> i don't know the legal definition of terrorism but they instigate the murder of white police officers. i know police officers well. i run a security business. i employ police officers. because i'm a big supporter of the police, five uncles who were cops, a cousin who died in the line of duty, cops come to me all over america. for the last year and a half, i'm told i feel like i had a target on my back and i feel like the politicians have put it

together. when that gunman had to come to the conclusion as to the motivation of what looks like an unjustifiable shooting. i don't disagree with that. it looks that way. but i've learned over the years of being a u.s. attorney, mayor, you wait for the criminal justice system. to say it was racist instigates, but nothing like black lives matter. black lives matter says kill white cops. >> i don't think politicians realize the impact they have when they make statements directly after an incident. hillary clinton saying that it's white people, they are just not listening to blacks enough. here's what she said. >> i will call for white people like myself to put ourselves in the shoes of those african-american families every time their children go who have to have the talk about how to really protect themselves when they're the ones who should be

expecting protection from encounters with the police. i'm going to be talking to white people. i think we're the ones who have to start listening to the legitimate cries that are coming from our african-american fellow citizens. >> you're shaking your head. >> i'm shaking my head because she has no experience really running an african-american city. i do. new york city has a large african-american population. for the last 35 or 40 years, 70% of people murdered in new york city are black. that's true this year. true last year. 75% of murder is black. when i go into the black community and talk to them, they would ask me for more police officers. i will put myself in the shoes of an african-american. if i was an african-american father, and i would tell my son, yes, sometimes, we have a few cops that target us and are horrible.

most of them, however, are good people. the real risk to you at a rate about 99.5% is another african-american youth. you want to do an actuarial table, 95% are killed by other blacks. less than 1% by police officers. so what's the real risk? if i care about my child, what do i tell my child? to be careful about the gangs, the kids in the street. they're the ones that are going to kill them. i tell them, if a police officer approaches you, a police officer has to be treated with great respect, put your hands up, do whatever he says. call him sir. just be a good boy. that's what we should teach them. and if hillary is going to learn anything, that's what she's going to learn and it's not going to stop until people like the milwaukee sheriff, people like that in the african-american community get listened to and not people like

hillary clinton who is a divider. >> what about being able to have a conversation? you said it comes down to, in a lot of ways, crime in african-american communities and it goes viral. right? we can't have a rational conversation about what's really going on here. how much is the problem and how to move forward? >> our president could have made a great contribution which is something lost to history. the first african-american president, he could have talked about these things in proportion and here's the proportion. 99% of the murders of black young people and blacks in general occur by civilians, most of them blacks. a small percentage of the police. police ones, we should work on, they should never happen. every single one of them is an outrage. a police officer who kills someone because of race belongs in jail. i put 70 police officers in jail as a u.s. attorney and as mayor, i cooperated and helped to build

a case against the police officers loretta lynch in jail. i have no problem putting police officers in jail who act that way but most are not like that. most are the reason why i was able to save more black lives than any mayor in the history of my city. >> it drives people crazy what you say that. >> you get to stay with us for a little bit. >> i say it because i want them to somehow understand that if you want to protect black children and you really mean black lives matter, then those children who are killed maybe one is killed right now in the city in america by another black youngster or person, their lives matter just as much by the ones killed by police officers. >> take a quick break here. in dallas, mourning continues this morning. the loss of five murdered

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as the city of dallas continues to mourn the five officers brutally murdered, many are wondering what will happen to their families this morning. >> our next guest said his organization is stepping up to help the loved ones of the men who are murdered. frank is from the towers foundation, his brother steven killed on 9/11, the father of five. he's joining us now with former new york city mayor, rudy giuliani. tell us about your brother. >> steven was a father of five. september 11, 2001. he heard what happened. ran through the brooklyn battery tunnel. he drove there. it was closed. strapped 16 pounds of gear on his back, ran through the tunnel and saved others no what these families and one day, your loved one is there and then love that

it came together. and have to stand by these families in their most darkest of hours. mr. mayor, what are you going to do? >> you can make up for the material things they lose. the breadwinner of the family. the fact the children might not be able to go to college. they're in the case of officers lou and ramos assassinated here in new york city a year and a half ago. the first person to step forward, tunnel to towers. mr. lou told me when i went to visit in his home, he is

chinese, broken english. afraid they couldn't pay their mortgage. he opened an account for them and he paid off both mortgages. and he went and rebuilt their homes because their other main purpose is building homes for catastrophically wounded warriors and they raise millions and millions and build homes all over the country for our soldiers and military people who lose their arms and legs. >> it's so incredible. i went to the event this year when you have thousands of people who come out and literally run all the stairs to the top of the world trade building. never seen anything like it. at sunrise, it's just incredible to see the passion behind it for people who want to help out, they should go to towerstotowers.otowerst. tunneltowers.com. but lost her life in the

shootings. the kids her daughter won't have her daddy and her son won't have his best buddy to grow up with. you've lost someone close to you during 9/11. what advice do you have for the families that are now going through so much? >> you know, there's no way to tell anyone how to grieve, but our family, what we did was we tried to take something horrific and take my brother's life and try to do good with it. we wanted good to defeat evil. and every time something like this happens, we want to bring america together to say, you can't do this to our good police officers, firefighters, whomever, our men and women in uniform. raise the money, pay off their mortgages, let them know they're not alone. and my advice is this as a family. to honor their loved ones by doing good in their memory. >> thank you for joining us. >> appreciate it. well, speaking of those lost in the line of duty, coming up, he was a father, a grandfather, just got married two weeks ago.

how dart is remembering their fallen officer, brent thompson. that's next.

we're learning more about the five men who lost their lives two nights ago in dallas. officer brent thompson was one of the five of the officers that was gunned down in thursday's ambush. he was a father, a grandfather and a newlywed of just two weeks and he was the first ever drchl d.a.r.t. officer to die in the line of duty. >> d.a.r.d. is dallas rapid transit and we're here by the

spokesman to honor this man who was killed. thank you for joining us this morning. tell us about him, if you would. >> my pleasure, thanks for the opportunity to talk about our folks. you know, brent has been with us since about 2009, well regarded within the force. a lot of friends. you know, one of the images and i think for me the most striking image from thursday night was to see all of those officers rushing to the scene, rushing to the danger, and brent was right there with them along with the four other d.a.r.t. officers or three other d.a.r.t. officers and they're recovering, which is good news. we grieve his loss but also honor the courage of all of these officers and we'll be doing that over the next several days and we need to do that every day. >> so tragic. we were learning as we were reporting this yesterday on the air, and this was all unfolding live in us in the news, we found out that he had just been married two weeks earlier. it's just like a punch to the

gut. >> absolutely. you know, his wife is also a member of our police force, and so understandably that hits this particular group especially hard, and the agency overall. you know, folks think we're a huge mon lit of an agency but really only a few, over 3,000 people, and just over 200 of them are sworn peace officers. it's just -- it's a difficult situation, but what a testament to courage by our officers, and again, by the staff that continues to work to provide great service. >> we've heard from some of the eyewitnesses who say when the shots started going off, the police officers started running directly to danger. there was not even -- >> right. >> -- a second to think about that. if brent were alive today, what do you think he'd be saying? what do you think he'd want us to hear? >> i think the key message is keep going. you know, being resilient in the face of amazing adversity.

this is, as you guys pointed out, this is the first time this ever happened to our police force. it's a day you hope never comes. but statistically it's going to happen. so now we'll be judged by how we recover from this and how we move forward and that's the focus. >> what was he doing there? >> he was on routine patrol. on events like this in downtown dallas, we work very closely with the dallas police department and all police agencies. all four of our rail lines come into downtown dallas. we also have extensive bus service, which you would typically see behind us but for some of the changes, and a commuter rail line. so our job during events like that is to make sure those assets are protected, that customers are able to use them safely and a lot of times we know the folks participating in the protests ride us to get there. and so we just want to make sure it's safe for everyone. the other thing i would say is that while they are rushing to that location, the first thing

they wanted to do was make sure the people who were participating in that protest were safe. they didn't know who was shooting, they didn't know where it was coming from, but they wanted to take care of people in and around them. i think that's significant to remember. >> and targeted because he was wearing a uniform. morgan, we appreciate you joining us this morning to share your thoughts on brent thompson. we thank you. >> thanks, guys. >> he was a hero and will be remembered as such. >> more "fox & friends" when we come back. if you're running a business, legalzoom has your back. over the last 10 years we've helped one million business owners get started. visit legalzoom today for the legal help you need to start and run your business. legalzoom. legal help is here.

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mosquitos. >> we'll have much more and a jam packed show for you tomorrow. >> plus abby huntsman tomorrow. >> i will be here tomorrow. >> on this somber morning, thank you for joining us on this show tomorrow. we'll see you tomorrow. >> see you tomorrow. it's 10:00 a.m. on the east coast, 7:00 a.m. on the west coast, 9:00 a.m. here in dallas, texas, where we're learning much more about the shooter who launched a deadly ambush targeting police. investigators say when they searched micah johnson's home outside the city just yesterday, they found bomb-making materials and not a few, bulletproof vests, rifles and ammunition, plus a personal journal. in that journal, writings about combat tactics. a county judge here says the army veteran had written about a, quote, shoot and move tactic that navy s.e.a.l.s normally use. that killer may have fired from multiple locations, moving arou