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it is 12 noon on the east coast. 9:00 a.m. on the west coast. 11:00 a.m. near dallas texas where we have more coverage of the deadly attacks targeting the police officers and the dart officers. just about an hour ago, a former dallas police chief told me investigators found drugs in the home of the shooter, micah johnson. methamphetamine inside of the home. they can't do toxicology tests because he had such severe injuries from the bomb exploding. as we reported, police say they used a bomb squad robot to kill johnson with an explosive device, something that never happened before and now we know that bomb was two feet away from him. they were using it as a
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communications device when they blew up the bomb, it blew up the gunman. in the meantime, investigators say they found rifles, ammunition, bulletproof vests and bomb making materials at the killer's home which is in a suburb outside of the city. they also say they found a journal and in the journal, the army veteran wrote about combat tactics. one of them called shoot and move. investigators say that may explain why the police originally said they thought there was more than one shooter. so far, police say there is no evidence, none at all, that the killer had any direct connection to militant groups. he did like, in a facebook way, he liked a militant group. friends say he wasn't very political at all but he was, quote, very affected by police shootings. let's get to casey stegall now. casey, what more are we learning about the search? >> well, shepard, it was conducted at a home in mesquite
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texas. we understand that he lived at that house, but who, with is still unclear. we heard police say it was with family. whether that was with his parents, a sibling, we don't know at this point but the feds did execute of course a search warrant there yesterday as you mentioned, among some of the items discovered by authorities, bulletproof vests, rifles, ammunition, and this journal of sorts that detailed combat tactics which clearly tells police that this was calculated and that it was a well thought out attack. folks living in that mesquite neighborhood say it is normally a quiet community where neighbors know their neighbors. people wave hi to each other at the mailbox. nobody described anything out of the ordinary with the lone suspect or his family. they're basically still in shock. one thing, however, that we have heard is that neighbors
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characterize him as a bit of a loner and he kept to himself, especially after he returned home from serving the military in afghanistan, shepherd. >> what is the latest at the crime scene, casey? >> it is still closed off and in fact, dallas police say that this area will likely be closed until wednesday. i'm going to hop out of the way and let you take a live look at main and griffin here this morning after 10:00 in the city of dallas. city leaders say that this large swath is going to be very, very congested because you have multiple law enforcement agencies and you see people at work back there. they're processing and they're going through every last bit of evidence and they are searching for any evidence. the atf has approximately 30 agents on the ground here helping process this scene. a large part of what they're doing is using k-9s and other special equipment to help
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recover all of the shell casings. the shell casings from the shooter's weapons and also the shell casings from the police officers who returned fire in the minutes after the gunshots rang out. this is why it is important. the hope is that they will lead back to registered firearms which can paint a picture of where they were purchased, how they were purchased, whether it was through a website, whether he got it through the black market, through a gun dealer. things of that nature. so that is essential in terms of helping them paint a picture. police say that they have also recovered at least two weapons. an assault style rifle, semi automatic, likely an ar-15 variant of some sort and a handgun. police also said that the suspect told him that they had planted ieds, that there were bombs around downtown. that, of course, complicated the matter in the moments following
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the shooting, however, the atf has been sweeping the area consistently, they're pretty confident that might have just been talk even though they did find bomb making materials at his home according to authorities, shepard and some type of explosive device at the scene here which you mentioned was also detonated. >> casey stegall with an update from the crime scene. that is in the heart of downtown. the two television stations that are within sitting distance of there, the paper record, the dallas morning news is there and huge office buildings and some of those will still be closed on, sounds like monday and tuesday while they work to wrap up the crime scene. they want to get all of the forensics out of there that they can. business as usual will not happen for lots of people. hundreds and hundreds of workers in downtown dallas. they're trying to figure out how to handle that now. shannon murray is here. she is a reporter for kdfw in
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the metro plex. it is a routine kind of night. >> and you just mentioned it was so close to the tv station downtown. when i pulled into work, got called in early that night to relieve our crew who worked on the scene at the protests covering that angle of the story and as i pulled in, police lights everywhere, ambulances-to cut through parking lots to get into our station so we could begin our coverage for the night. >> you've been working by the fbi scene ever since and i guess that means watching all of the meticulous work. describe it for us. >> we've seen them there the last two days working in large groups, just, as you said, meticulously looking at every single thing around el centro college where the shooting happened. just this morning we saw dozens line up along the caution tape and just really slowly march forward step by step, clearly just looking for any bit of evidence that they could find there in the large area as you mentioned, in the heart of downtown. everything right now blocked off with police and caution tape and
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it is very difficult to get around but they're working very actively there this morning. >> and the information is hard to come by but they've given you some information. >> right. they won't tell us too much. the fbi doesn't want to let us know exactly what they're doing, but we can see them out there with dogs, we see them out there walking, and the police, you know, have said that they may be out there working as late as wednesday of this week. >> tedious work on -- today is a little overcast, we're blessed with that. >> right. >> it is not easy out there in the hot sun. >> and being a reporter in texas and being from here, we're used to the heat, but it does make for a really long day, especially for the officers who have been here days on end working on this. >> as time goes forward, we'll learn a lot more about the suspect but your station hasn't been able to find -- have you been able to find anything in his background that says, someone should have known because he said this. >> i think there has been a lot about him on social media and
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online and just small snippets of things police have released about what he told them that night that gives them the indication of what kind of person he was and looking at his military background and all of those things. i particularly have not seen anything that says oh, they should have seen that, but i'm sure that will come. >> authorities haven't found anything either which they tell us this is a bit unusual. normally there is some sort of red flag. that is why they tell us see something, say something. he had connections online, but it was never anything i hate the police or go get the police. nothing like that or i hate the white people. knowled nothing. >> and his neighbors who we talked to yesterday said well, he seemed like a loner, he kept to himself. that may give some indication on why that is. >> we've heard that so many times over the years. shannon murray from fox 4 here in town. good to see you. >> one of the victims who survived the shooting is a dallas metro police officer and
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a mother. we'll have more on her condition and an update on the other survivors of the ambush. we also have correspondents today in -- outside st. paul, minnesota, where a shooting of a young black man happened there and in baton rouge, louisiana. there were demonstrations last night and we're pleased to be able to report that those demonstrations were largely violence free, trying to get the word out for support for the families there. they're dealing with their own tragedy, their own set of circumstances, where they don't understand why they have loss in their family and certainly here in dallas. dozens of hundreds and hundreds of people who were friends with the officers who gave their lives on thursday night. the months ahead will be long and difficult. the coverage continues, next. what's it like to be in good hands? like finding new ways to be taken care of. home, car, life insurance obviously, ohhh... but with added touches you can't get everywhere else,
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12 minutes past the hour. we're learning more about the suf survivors of of the shoot inning dallas. one of them, a protester or a demonstrator that night who protected her children from the gunshots. shetamia taylor is her name. she is recovering from surgery after a bullet hit her in her calf while she was on top of two of her kids trying to keep them safe. her sister says all four of taylor's sons are indeed safe and they expect her to fully recover. she also said when her sister went into surgery, she was concerned about the officers who
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died. rich edson at baylor university here in dallas. what do we know about the survivors? >> what we are hearing from the police department and hospital officials is absolutely nothing on the condition on the statistics, how many people they're treating and what their conditions are. we're learning of the stories of theictims and survivors and those recovering through family members and friends coming to the hospital and telling us of what their loved ones had gone through. one, dallas area rapid transit officer misty mcbride was shot in the abdomen and arm. a bullet broke her shoulder and her friends tell the ap all she wanted to do was return to work the next day. she is the mother of a 10-year-old. when she was shot according to the ap, she called beneath a police car, a fellow police officer gathered her and took her to the hospital where she is recovering. there is dallas police officer gretchen rochesta.
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she was wounded by shrapnel. she grew up in beaver dam wisconsin. she interned at the madson, wisconsin police department and used her spanish language skills to be part of a problem called amigos in azul or friends in blue and she joined the dallas police department. both are recovering. >> that is good news. one of them, a social activist, right? >> yes, this also, according to the ap and we're talking about jesus retana. he pushed his department to recognize benefits for his husband and same sex partners. this was before the era of the u.s. supreme court legalizing same sex marriage and so this was a big fight in the dallas area rapid transit police department and one that he fought according to the associated press and the resource center which was this group he worked for. he is back and he is recovering
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as well, shep. >> rich edson across town at baylor university center. much more on the five officers who died in the ambush in dallas. some of the family members and friends are telling us all about them. their stories are worth hearing. we'll bring them to you coming right up. >> we thought it was fire crackers. the first shot was pop! and everybody started looking around. then it was pop, pop, pop, pop, pop, pop. and we was like, oh, man, it is gunshots. it is a bit must and people are frustrated but there is a better way to handle your frustrations. a better way to get your point across. there were kids out there. people who had nothing to do with that out there. people who supported your cause, just not the way you went about it.
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who survived three tours in iraq, a former army ranger and father of two. all victims of thursday night's shooting and we're learning more about them and their families now. william is outside of police headquarters in dallas. william? >> all of these guys of course had families, children and so farther and they're mourning them, not just this week but for years to come so let us meet the guys that they will remember. let's start with michael krol. he is 40 years old. he was a jail guard near detroit. then he moved here to dallas to join the police department because he wanted to, quote, help people. brent thompson, 43, a marine veteran, spent a lot of time over seas. he was training police in afghanistan and iraq. he was the first officer with the dart, the dallas area transit authority individual or agency who die in the line of duty. and then you have lorne ahrens, a big guy, ex-semi pro football
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player. when he was confronting the gunman and ended up at medical center being treated, his kids had already gone to bed. they woke up without a father. big guy, leaving behind a daughter who is 10 years old and a son, 8. let's go to michael smith. michael smith, he was a sergeant, he was going to retire, actually this year. he is an ex-army ranger, a cop's cop. they say. he leaves behind a daughter who is 10 years old and another 14. very active in the church and finally we have zamarripa. a really well known guy, patrick. 32 years old. survived three tours in iraq. his wife, christy wrote in a very emotional facebook post, my daughter will not have her daddy to walk her down the aisle. when he was facing bullets, she was at a rangers baseball game with her daughter posting pictures he will never see.
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>> man. william la jeaunesse. thank you. he was in the thick itself on thursday night. i guess the police call went out and he went to work. >> yeah, actually saw it on twitter like a lot of people did and something like that happens, you -- as you know, you go to where the news is. >> where did you end up and what were you seeing? >> right after, i ran to the omni hotel which is right there and that is when there is a lot of confusion, the protesters were trying to leave the area. police were cordoning off different sections. there were humoa were rumors if multiple shooters. we were trying to try figure out what was going on. >> and seeing officers down, that is something i've never witnessed an officer fall in front of me.
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i've been there for a lot of after math, but i've never been in the middle of it when it happened. i don't know how easy that would be to handle. >> yeah, and i wasn't there that close to it, by the point i got there, they had cordoned off the main crime scene and were keeping people away from it. >> i was watching on fox 4 here locally, we were watching from new york when chief miller and the reporter from fox 4 got this first video of what looked like an execution. the gunman was around a corner and an officer was there and didn't realize the gunman was there and he just executed him and there are kids and families around. i just wonder if lives aren't really forever changed as a result of this and if that is not one of the stories that dallas news will be reporting on for a very long time. >> i think it is and that is something that we've been talking a lot about is how is the community going to move on from this and we actually had a
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story this morning about how there will likely be a lot of ptsd and other issues stemming from this. think about what the kennedy assassination did to the city and we worked really hard to not be the city of hate anymore and stuff like this adds more wrinkles to the story. >> well, you know, it seems like this was one guy who was clearly messed up. apparently at least here in the early going from the reporting of the newspapers, there are no known ties to organizations that your newspapers reported on at all. if he had groups of friends of like mind around here, there is no reporting on it yet and the police haven't said anything about it. >> yeah, there is still a lot of speculation and you know, i don't want to get into all of that. >> i didn't ask you to. >> i know. >> it didn't exist. members of community were trying to do the right thing every day and watching for signs, it is not like they missed anything.
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there was nothing to see. >> and event itself was a peaceful protest, people were walking back to their cars at that point when it turned violent suddenly. >> yeah. >> we were talking with the police department a little while ago about whether they would be instituting new policies or considering new policies nd i was speaking with an editor earlier saying that will be one of the focuses to follow this process. as journalists keeping the members of the public informed on something like that, you want to know the inside story of it all. there will be a lot of story lines to come. >> there are and that is something we've been having lots of meetings trying to figure out where do we go from here, both as a city and as a newspaper. we want to keep people informed and also work with people to help move forward. >> newspaper serves all of those roles. reporting, leading, and really helping, if it is a good one and yours is. it is good to see you. thank you so much. >> as we reported, one of the officers killed here in dallas worked for the transit police.
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the dallas area rapid transit. back in the late 80s, 1989 i think it was, they established a police department to handle their own police calls within this enormous labrynth of transportation here. there has never been a dart officer to die at least until now. >> after the events this week, americans across the country are feeling a sense of helplessness, uncertainty, and fear. these feelings are understandable and they are justified but the answer must not be violence. the answer is never violence. rather, the answer, our answer, all of our answers must be action. calm, peaceful, collaborative and determined action. we must continue working to build trust between communities and law enforcement. i work 'round the clock. i want my blood sugar to stay in control.
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bottom of the hour, time for the top of the news at fox reports live in dallas. one of the officers killed in the attack here worked for the public transit system. the police department, dart or the dallas area rapid transit. brent thompson is the first dart police officer to die in the line of duty in the 27 year history. with us now is gary thomas. he is dart's president. nice to have you with us. >> thank you. >> we were talking during the commercial break. the routine begins again and you have one thing on your mind. >> from our perspective it is moving the customers from point a to point b. safely, efficiently and effectively. as we wake up this morning, i think it is so important that we not forget because as we start to get back into the line of routine, we can't forget the people
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