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something they never seen before outside our solar system, evidence of water. we hear about water so much out there, surrounding a dwarf star she said about seven light-years from earth. a failed star which never ignited. clouds of vapor and ice, they think there might be some water out there, which means theremight be like out there depending on what you believe . greg: "happening now" starts now be one we begin with a fox news alert as new details emerge about the gunmen in dallas and his plans for an even deadlier attack on police officers. we are expecting a news conferencefrom the dallas police chief, that is to begin momentarily while the nation prepares for a memorial service to honor the five officers murdered thursday night in dallas. good morning on this monday, i'm jon scott . heather: i'm heather dower,
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in fort jenna lee. we are awaiting more details on the investigation into the deadliest today for our law enforcement since the 9/11 terror attacks and were now that the gunmen who opened fire during the black lives matter protest apparently had much bigger plans that included the use of explosives . we are getting lots of reaction today to the deadly rampage, take a listen. [chanting] black lives of matter when you say black lives matter, that's inherently racist. black lives matter, white lives matter, asian lives matter, that isanti-american and it's racist . [shouting] >> the suspect had other plans and thought that what he was doing was righteous and believed that he was going to make law-enforcement and target law enforcement, make us pay for what he sees
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as law enforcement efforts to punish people of color. >>. [shouting] hands up, don't shoot. >> i firmly believe that america is not as divided as some have suggested. americans of all races and all backgrounds are rightly outraged by the inexcusable attacks on police, whether it's in dallas or anyplace else. >> a total of nine officers were wounded in that attack including two from l central college, thankfully both of those officers are now at home area two civilians were also hurt including a mother who was wounded while she protected her son from the gunfire. >> police officers started coming up to block and one of them, i heard when he said is
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anybody hit, my son said no because he didn't know i was shot and i was saying yes but i wasn't saying it loud enough so my son could hear me because i didn't want him to hear me and the officer said it again louder and i said i'm hitting my leg and the officer jumped on top of me and covered me and my son. there was another one at our feet and there was another one over our heads and there were several of them lined against the wall over there and they stayed there with us and i saw another officer ... i saw another officer got shot. heather: powerful, moving and tragic. showing us what those officers do every day. joining us now, steve rogers, a former member of the fbi task force and fbi
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intelligence. as we await to hear from the dallas police chief, tell us a little bit about some of the key questions you have at this stage in the investigation. >> many of the questions are going to be centered around where did he get the weapons, where did he get the explosives, where did he get the training which may have been in the us military. there's questions regarding if there was anyone else involved within in the planning stage and what does rv mean? the letters that he put on wall with his blood could be a goodbye my love type thing or they could be something else involving those two letters so they're going to need to connect all those up and how they are going to do this is our over his social media accounts, look at his cell phone and computers and that when you do the forensic study of all this evidence and you're going to be able to at least connect some dots and be led to a conclusion of this investigation. heather: from what we know right out you believe anybody else could have been involved with this, that he could have been planning this with the assistance of anybody else? >> that's possible but what has been talked about is what
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he was doing in the army. there had to be someone before he got discharged who saw some unusual behavior, erratic behavior. i cannot believe me being a career military person that his superior officers didn't have any questions about his behavior. heather: no offense to anyone who has her bravely in our us military when he was a private first class, with the base marine unit. he was in afghanistan but what from what we have read there have been no examples of him even leaving the base, he was behind the wire the entire time. >> he served his country yes but it goes back to if you see something, say something. it's like when police officers go online, when they run into problems they should run into you got to know their sergeants, lieutenants, their superiors knew something but all this will come out in the investigation as we move forward. heather: talk with us about the weapon. the weapons he had, he was apparently experimenting with some sort of explosives or detonation at his home .
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do we know if these weapons were legally obtained at this point? >> no information other than that i can tell you based on the amount of weapons, he was ready for war. he was ready for combat and i said all along and confirmed a couple days ago that this was not his intended target in my view. he was looking to do something else more catastrophic but it was a terrorist attack in this case of convenience, he took advantage of the market, decided this would be the time and place he was going to execute the operation he had planned. >> i'm trying to think how on earth police officers go about doing their jobs where they are protecting first amendment rights of people who are out there protesting but yet they still manage to protect themselves. how do you strike a balance between the two? >> that's why we call them heroes. it is very difficult but the woman you just had on, the victim of the shooting, she has done more to heal wounds in this country than any other rhetoric referred.
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she's telling the world about how these police officers covered her from being killed and that's the kind of things that will help heal wounds and do their job. as a police officer my heart goes out to her like imagine the police officers that just saw what you had on your tv screens here and we know we have to come together and i said all along that we've got to get the clergy involved, we have a god above we have to depend on for guidance and wisdom and when i say we, i mean the black community and the police community the seven such a good point about how she has perhaps done more to heal our nation when we haven't necessarily heard that from our top leaders. i want to ask you about where you met in texas.there's indications he may have lived with his mom. any responsibility that she would potentially have or anybody would have if you are living under the same roof as he was plotting some sort of attack. >> there is. it's tough for a mother or father or anyone, maybe they go into denial but if you see what people are talking about, this type of combat
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training he was doing in his backyard, somebody had to have seen him coming in and out with these weapons. we all have a responsibility to protect this country as hard as it is at times even when it involves relatives we have a responsibility to stand up, to speak out and if you see something, say something. heather: it sounds like his behavior was bizarre to say the least. he was doing some sort of drills in his backyard but what does a even do? did they pick up the phone and say to the police the neighbor of my son is doing next-door drills like a commando? i can't imagine the police would take that seriously. >> in this environment they would. i was on a fox broadcast last night and when we talk about if you see something, say something i got an expensive email, credible information with that is to back it up that it's in the hands of the fbi. this person was concerned were you going to give them my name? absolutely not.
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you can remain anonymous but make the call and you may save a life. heather: you have to hope the fbi is going to take you seriously. as we saw in orlando, that quite frankly didn't happen at least not to the point where it save people's lives. >> lessons learned. heather: steve rogers, thank you as we await to hear from the police commissioner in dallas to be on that news conference from dallas police should be getting underway any moment now, we will take you live when it happens. thousands of protesters marching in cities across the country this weekend. the demonstrators speaking out against police involved shootings that left two black men dead last week. officers arresting hundreds of people as they block major roadways and intersection in several cities. laura ingle live in new york city with more on the weekends protest, laura? reporter: we did see a lot of action, protesters have been hitting the pavement with phones and handmade signs in the air to voice their outrage over the shooting deaths of alton stirling and
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philando castile and other black men who have been shot by police under what they call questionable circumstances. demonstrations going on right now in philadelphia. protesters disrupting the morning commute to make their point, organizers they believe the philadelphia police department has a long history of racial profiling and demanding the end of violence against black people. things got heated in baton rouge, the city where alton stirling was killed. dozens of arrest were made after protesters tried to walk onto interstate 110, blocking freeways and interstates and a popular method of obstruction by these groups after a lengthy standoff, riot police in full gear were used to disperse and here in new york city sunday, hundreds marched from times square to union square demanding an end to police brutality while some protesters said it's not there to judge a whole by a few, many marched in solidarity with the black lives matter movement they removed after last week's incident . >> we are outraged not only by what's going on in northern region but down south as well.
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>> it's vertical whether we sit at home, with whether we go to work, evenif we come out here but at least this is our outlet . >> protesters provoked police in st. paul by throwing molotov cocktails and rocks from an overpass as police tried to break things up. posted 300 people were arrested over the weekend nationwide, 21 officers injured in the baton rouge protest alone. john? jon: laura ingle in our new york newsroom, thank you. a fox news alert and the race for the u.s. senate and control thereof got a lot more interesting because former democratic senator evan by of indiana is jumping in to the indiana senate race . it upends the race for the majority in 2016, a democratic challenger who was seen as perhaps not as likely a winner of that seat is getting out of the way so that evan by can try to
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reclaim an indiana seat for the democrats. he announced his plans to run for senate while representative baron hill is stepping aside. we will keep you apprised as democrats tried to retain control of the u.s. senate and as i said it got a lot more interesting my these days, we will talk about that later. a flexible or to bring you, after the boat to leave your european union by the uk and as promised in the boat aftermath, moments ago british prime ministerssaying he will step down on wednesday , we are talking about david cameron course and that means this woman theresa may will become the british prime minister on wednesday. he will be the second british prime minister, female private minister in history. her primary opponent in the battle to secede david cameron stepped aside, that having a short while ago. jon: interesting politics there as well. suspect arrested in the kidnapping of a woman but the
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victim is still missing. what we know about this bizarre case, that the head. and from the dallas attacks to the police shootings in louisiana and minnesota, how has this violence changed the political playing field for political playing field for hillary clinton and donald trump? we will get into that and we want to hear from you. are you worried about the safety of police officers in your community or in the united states as a whole? our live chat is up and running, go to foxnews.com/happeningnow to join the conversation. to help companies be... local & global. open & secure. because no one knows & like at&t.
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deadly dallas shooting and its impact on the national political debate. presidentobama saying we are not as divided as some claim . >> when we start suggesting that somehow there's this in norma's polarization and we are back to the situation in the 60s and, it's just not true. you're not seeing riots and you're not seeing police
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going after people who are protesting peacefully. you have to make sure that all of us step back, do some reflection and make sure that the rhetoric, that we engage in is constructive. and not destructive. if we do that, i'm confident that we will continue to make progress in the meantime both presumptive presidential nominees reacting to the terrible violence of last week addressing how to bridge the go between law enforcement and the communities they serve. >> the shooting of the 12 police officers in dallas, texas has shaken the soul of our nation . a brutal attack on our police force is an attack on our country and an attack on our families. we must stand in solidarity with law enforcement which we
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must remember is the force between civilization and total chaos. every american has the right to live in safety and peace. >> we cannot, we must not vilify police officers. ending the systemic racism that plagues our country and rebuilding our communities where the police and citizens all see themselves as being on the same aside will require contributions from all of us. jon: michael warren is all online editor for the weekly standard, betsy woodruff's politics reporter for the daily beast, welcome to both of you. difficult things for political candidates to handle and for politicians. michael, you heard police organizations and ordinary citizens complain the president has to often taken the side , waiting against police officers. how would you ask access the job he has done in this
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circumstance? >> it's been okay, it hasn't been the worst president obama has done to sort of waiting to these issues really before all the facts are in or sort of all the dust is settled and people have called down. on the other hand, he did sort of question, ponder why we can't even figure out what this sniper in dallas's motives were even though it's clear and clear to most americans after what the dallas police chief said that he wanted to target white cops. i think the president has this problem of waiting into issues like this really before the dust settles and the juxtaposition to that, both of the presidential candidates did take a step back in a way i think helps most americans process all the violence and the terrible things we saw at the end of the week last week in a way that's better and i have to say i'm surprised by that but it was a good surprise. jon: let me interrupt our conversation with michael and betsy to say that police
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chief david o'brien from dallas, a fox news news alert is beginning his news conference, let's get to the latest from the events of thursday night. >> clarification on the make and model of the robot we use . the carrier device to detonate to end the standoff, i'm going to start with that so the robot is a remote tech, our emo tec and roast, a and d ros mark five ãa1 and that mark five is roman 5 so mark v ãa1. we purchased the robot in 2008 at a cost of approximately$151,000 . there's partial damage to the extension arm of the robot but it is still functional as
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we had to use it for other operations. an update on our investigation of the shootings. our detectives are continuing to download body camera footage from the officers at the scene. there's over 170 hours ofbody camera video to download . and that is ongoing. detectives are also collecting all dash cam video so that the video mounted on the squad cars that also recorded some ofthe incident . so detectives will be revealing all video from surrounding businesses as well and that's also
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countless hours of video. what our plans are to take these time stamps, the entire incident with all video footage available so that we can see from the beginning as much as we can in real time action as it happens. just an update on the injuries and deaths, to make sure we have clear clarification. five officers were killed. nine officers were wounded. as a result of gunfire or fragmentation of bullets. of the nine officers wounded, four were dallas police officers. three were dark officers.
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and to were dallas community college police department officers there at el centro. that brings the total number of officers, i'm sorry. one of the.officers that was wounded fired their weapon. so according to our investigative notes now, that brings the total number of officers who use force against thesuspect to 13 . 13 used force against the suspect. of that 13, 11 officers used their firearms and to officers used an explosive device against the suspect.
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detectives are reviewing over 300 statements to determine which witnesses and officers need to be brought back for furtherinterview . our detectives have alsofound some officers that were at the scene have not given statements yet . this has been confirmed through our preliminary review ofbody camera video . so these officers will be identified and brought in to give statements to us. the dallas police department working with the federal bureau of investigation, we are working also without law enforcement partners in the area to determine the meaning of the initials are b that were inscribed on the walls there in two locations inside el centro.
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all of the police vehicles that were processed by the fbi at the scene have been taken to the naval air station here to ensure that officers personal property is returned to the families when appropriate. can i also give, before i take questions just an overview of the work that dallas police officers have done here in dallas to protect itscitizens . 2015, just last year was our unprecedented 12 consecutive year of crime reduction area for a total of 53 percent reduction in crime. more than any major city in this country doing that..
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and more than at any other time in our history in dallas. we have our records back to 1930 until today. in 2015, we had our fourth lowest murder rate since 1930. that follows 2014, our second lowest murder rate since 1930 in over 86 years. 2011 was our fifth lowest murder rate in our city's history, 2013 was our sixth lowest murder rate and 2010 was our 10th lowestmurder rate . and they've done this by also protecting the civil rights of our citizens. through community policing. in 2015, there was a 45
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percent reduction in police involvedshootings . this year, we had one shooting where a subject was injured, not counting the downtown shooting . we have four other police involved shootings where we missed, shot and missed . we have averaged over my 33 year career between 18 and 25 shootings a year. and in addition to that, in 2015 we had a 67 percent reduction in excessive force complaints. we averaged over 150 to 200 every year for the past 33 years and last year we had 14 the overall crime rate in dallas is at a 50 year low. violent crime is at a 40 year
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low. our community policing efforts put us in positive contact with over 120 1000 young people here in dallas. this is the best department in the country and i'm proud to be associated with the men and women of the dallas police department and this tragedy incident will not discourage us from continuing the pace of urgency in changing and reforming policing in america. with that, i will take my first question from casey with fox . >>. [inaudible question] >> thank you.
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>>. [inaudible question] [inaudible question] >> to be quite honest, i'm running on fumes. a lot of you have asked for interviews, i tried to nicely ignore you. i hope you understand that my brain is fried. the members, the memory it takes to run a measure the policedepartment on a normal day with all the things that happened is overwhelming . so this transpiring along with thenormal things continuing to happen in the city is difficult at best . again, i go back to being a person of faith. i believe i'm able to stand here and discuss this with you is a testament to god's grace and his sweet, tender
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mercy. to be quite honest with you. because what we are doing and what we are trying to accomplish here is about challenging, it is, we are asking cops to do too much in this country. we are. they're just asking us to do too much. every failure, we put it off on the cost to solve. not enough mental health funding. let the cops handle it. not enough drug funding, let's give it to the cops. here in dallas we got it loose stall problem, let's have cops jake chase luke stall. the schools fail, give it to the cops. 70 percent of the african-americans being raised by single women, let's give it to the cops with all that as well. that's too much to ask. policing was never meant to solve those problems.
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and i would just ask for other parts of our democracy along with the free press to help us. to help us and not put that burden all on law enforcement to resolve. so again, i'm being honest with you. i have raw feelings about all of what we do and so don't ask me if you don'twant the answer . >>. [inaudible question] what's really important now for our officers is counseling services. i make a point of making the tough decision about mandating some of it because we want to be superman and superwoman and we're not . and we are the last to say we need help . my profession is separate from this for quite a while now and i don't want that on my conscious someone needs
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help and there too proud to ask, i'm getting close to mandating this. i'm seeking counseling with my staff to make sure i don't make matters worse but that's the number one thing we need. everything else, we are getting from our law enforcement partners and from our city managers and from our mayor and council so we are getting all the support we need from dallas. along with support from our >> [inaudible] any information about [inaudible] also follow up on -- i notice your bodyguard [inaudible] very, very carefully. have you received personal death
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threats against you? >> yes, me and my family received death threats almost immediately after the shooting. we are a policing family in dallas and across the country. there is a heightened awareness of threats we have received across the country. you reported many of the things happening in other cities with shooting at headquarters, officers being shot and injured and shot and killed. we are at a place where we are concerned for our safety. i don't just want to single out me. everyone is having increased awareness because people who are not stable could do great damage to us. so we are all on edge. and we are being very careful. >> i assume these are credible
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threats against you and your family? >> we are taking them all as credible whether they can be confirmed or not. my particular threat was a post from a private facebook to our dallas facebook. we have been unable to identify the source of the threat. his language was such that we have to do that for the sake of our families. >> there is a report out today that suggests micah johnson [inaudible] black power organizations [inaudible] the first question [inaudible] based on your investigation is it a possibility the rv is part of an
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acrow number used by these groups. >> we don't have information to confirm any of those. i'm a little bit sold school cop. until you show me we exhausted every lead, i won't be convinced we know everything about what happened, associations, others that might be complicit. so we are going to turn over every rock and follow every lead until it's exhausted, until name satisfied this was the lone person. i may be overly concerned about this, but i'm highly protective of cops, and i want to make sure nobody else out there that had something to do with this. >> how is it possible [inaudible] >> you sound like a cop, brother. that's my question.
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manuel. >> as part of these investigation, knowing what you know now, is there anything that could be done top prevent this from happening. with protests around the country, a black male, law enforcement officer [inaudible] >> if anything could be done it needs to be done by our public which includes the protesters. to have greater concerns about the requirements that it puts on law enforcement when you have spontaneous protests or even planned protests, to insure their safety, but not to be inconsiderate of the officers' safety. that's what could be done different. from the officer's perspective, they did a courageous admirable job.
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bravery is not enough to describe what they did that day, not only in planning to make sure it was done in a safe manner. but improvising, making sure as they begin to march, that we were able to block traffic where there were no accidents with vehicles and pedestrians trying to march and exercise. that was unplanned, that was spontaneous. i want to emphasize if something can be done, it's going to be done in the public square. it will be done by our citizens, understanding that this democracy requires their participation. you get my point? it's not something you can sit on the sideline and be a part democracy the way our country was founded, it requires participation. >> if i may, all the protests
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happening nationwide, as an african-american and law enforcement official [inaudible] >> i have been black a long time, manuel, so ... it's not so much of a bridge for me. it's every day living. i grew up here in texas. i'm third generation dallasite. it's my normal to live in this society with a long history of racial strive. we are in a much better place than we were when i was a young man here. but we have much work to do, particularly in our profession. and leaders in my position need to put their careers on the line to make sure we do things right and not be so worried about keeping their jobs. that's how i approach it and i hope it's an example for others to approach how we conduct
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ourselves as police officers. is hannah of pbs here? no? carlos? >> [inaudible] about what [inaudible] question will be what [inaudible] can do for the police department [inaudible] right now we are approaching the funerals. [inaudible] >> there is a lot that can be done. let me reserve some of that commentary. i don't want to get too far from what we have planned for the rest of the week, some of the services start tomorrow with a candlelight vigil tonight at 8:00. there is much that can be done with political leaders and the flee press. and much that can be done from everyday citizens. i tried to talk about a lot of
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that. i don't want to get too distracted from grieving the loss. and there will be a time for expanding conversation on what can be done. >> also, you mentioned [inaudible] this year [inaudible] are you afraid [inaudible] going to [inaudible] >> resignations have been leaving because we are the lowest paid in the area. $44,000 is the starting pay and they have been leaving to go to other adjoining law enforcement agencies because of that. it's not just resignation, it's officers not feeling appreciated. i want to make that pretty clear that officers are committed to this profession, but they want to take care of their families
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financially as well. we are working to correct that. i have every indication i get from the mayor and city manager and city council, they want to correct that as soon as possible, and i trust that they will. salva doash? >> you talked about [inaudible] have you had a chance to [inaudible] >> as far as the ongoing investigations, there are many questions in my mind. some of the questions we may never know the answer to. but we'll continue to ask ourselves the tough questions to make sure we don't leave anything uninvestigated.
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we are taking sure we don't take any things for granted that we know without a full investigation. there is a lot of questions. it's very complex, the person obviously had some delusions. the person was also very committed to killing officers. we don't know much beyond that that we can say with certainty but we are going to find out. as far as what i'm saying to my officers, i'm trying to tell them i care about them, when i see them face to face. it's a big department and it's hard to touch everybody at one time. you won't see me walk past an officer without grabbing them and hugging them and telling them i appreciate their sacrifice. jane? >> you said as a young man growing up in dallas that you were afraid of the police.
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how did you overcome that fear? >> so when i graduated high school, i got a full ride scholarship to uti. this was 1979. i cape back home for the summers. around 81, 82, the crack cocaine epidemic hit dallas pretty hard. my friends who dayed here became involved in -- who dayed here -d here became involved in that and it broke my heart and changed what i did in college. i came back to today has to do something about it, what i saw in my own neighborhood. i'm the kind of person that i probably wouldn't protest or
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complain. i would get involved. and do something about it. about becoming part of the solution. that's still in me. that keeps me going. that i get so much satisfaction that i can do a small thing to help this community. i just love dallas, and i love serving. it's part of my character. it's part of who i am. all the crap we have to take as police officers. the satisfaction you get from serving is much more gratifying. >> [inaudible] >> become a part of the solution. serve your community. don't be a part of the problem. we are hiring. we are hiring. get off that protest line and put an application in and we'll put you in your neighborhood and
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we'll help you resolve some of the problems you are protesting about. >> good morning. what prompted the deeing significants that were made? also what prompted the individual -- >> officers were in surgery that didn't make it. i didn't know they were passed. but i knew at at least two had been killed. and we knew through negotiations this was the suspect because he was asking us how many did he get. he was telling us how many more he wanted to kill. this wasn't an ethical dilemma for me. i would do it again to save our officers' lives.
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to use a robot? i would use any tool necessary to save our officers' lives and i'm not ashamed to say it. >> is this a change in tactic [inaudible] >> we are committed to community policing. in the 21st century, it is the best way to police our country. it's the best way. and i read those stats off to make my point. we have been a community police organize and led the country for 12 consecutive years in crime reduction by doing that type of policing. community policing works. it makes us all safer, i'm convinced. dan? >> do you have more information
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about [inaudible] secondly, i know the president is coming here this week. [inaudible] >> i don't have the information about his -- i know we have it but i didn't bring it here with me and i didn't put to it memory. i'm sure they told me and i'm drawing a blank. we'll try to get this out to you as soon as we, in a press release. as far as we chiming in and telling the president what to say, i am going to pass on that if you don't mind. he's the president for god's sake. allen? >> [inaudible] dallas -- >> i believe dallas because that's what happened.
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i don't know whether or not he planned to escape and then the bombing would start or he didn't have type to complete. we just don't know how the bombing aspect of his plans were going to play out. we are looking for those answers. the concern is that we haven't found something that's out there. that's the concern. we don't know that reality. we are asking the question and trying to find lead to see if there is any answers to that. molly? >> [inaudible] potential
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accomplices -- >> not detained. we questioned his mother. we don't know the scope his plans yet. as soon as we do know that we'll share it with you once we are comfortable it won't compromise the investigation. you are not lucy, so you must be trevor. i'm sorry, molly, did you have a follow-up question? >> [inaudible] >> there was a large stockpile, one of the bomb techs called me at home to exprib -- to describe his concern how large the stockpile of bomb-making materials he had. according to that bomb tech, he knew what he was doing, this wasn't some no advice. what's on his laptop, how he learned that, we don't think he learned it in the military. we don't have evidence of that.
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he learned that online, i guess. so we don't have the amount, but as soon as -- >> the thing -- taking notes here. we can get out in a press release as soon as we are comfortable it won't compromise the investigation. >> [inaudible] >> no, we did not. trevor? >> -- you don't have the funding -- [inaudible] >> so just going back to my government class in high school, mcbattle was my teacher. there are three branches of government, legislative, judicious and executive. we are a local democracy in
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dallas, and our council has the role. but there is a greater role in policy making and folks need to do their job. there are too many things we agree on on both sides of the aisle that we haven't do the done and we need to get it done. and quit asking cops to chime in and do it for you. we have got a full plate. the policy making, the law is being passed. that's their job and they need to do it so we can be safer in this country. and the issues have been -- i can't stand watching cable news anymore. it has been discussed forever and we are not getting to a place where we do anything. that's the frustration for police officers. we all know what needs to be done. let's get that done to say we did something to help everyone. you have a follow-up?
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>> [inaudible] >> something on guns. i was asked what's your opinion about guns? ask the policy makers to do something and i'll give an opinion. put a law out there and i'll give you an opinion on it. but to have me do that job? i'll pass on that. to get in that debate and get swallowed up by both sides who are entrenched in their positions? i want no part of that. we are doing our job, we are putting our lives on the line. anything else, trevor? >> [inaudible] how did you begin to break down the barrier that cooperating with police is
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tantamount to [inaudible] >> the biggest aspect in our community policing efforts is interacting with youth in a positive way. if you can get the young people, give them an opportunity and chance you have shaping their world is views differently than what their environment is. that's number one. number two is holding yourself accountable. when the 1% or 2% of officers don't do the job in the right way, say it. and hold them accountable. if that means separating them, do it. you can't risk that 1% or 2% defining the 98% or defining the profession by their mistakes. those are two big rocks i think we could all hopefully agree on that young people and holding officers accountable for what they do is and amount to gaining
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trust. >> [inaudible] >> the department are understanding what needs to be done. they all have their ways of doing things. i participate in the association and we discuss every square. all the chiefs get together and discuss all of this. the policing environment i think is the one held most accountable. and the one if you look back just a generation, has made the most progress. we just need to figure out from all aspects of government. john? >> after this incident, we know
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your goal is clear now. [inaudible] your kevlar body armor -- how do your men on the scene go out and practice community policing yet you have this shadow [inaudible] >> so how they do it? with steel resolve. bravery and courage. and knowing that community policing makes them safer. it makes them safer. people are likely in the community in the community if they trust you to protect you. if something goes wrong, to give you have the evidence to resolve crimes if they trust you. so trust is a thing that's
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invaluable. if usual able to build that kind of trust in these community, that's the safest way to police. >> we noticed [inaudible] during a demonstration -- [inaudible] what does this tell you about people with open carry at deal straitions? >> it's date best. we expressed this. it's a little different in texas. where you from? you are from texas. you know. it's a little different here in texas in the way we view open carry, concealed carry. and we have had great dialogue with our state legislators about this and expressed our concerns 367 and we are trying as best we can to make it work so individuals can express their second amendment rights.
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but it's increasingly challenging when people have ar-15s slung over and shootings begin in a crowd and they begin running and we don't know if they are a shooter or not. it has bent presumption that a good guy with a gun is the best way to resolve one of these things. we don't know who the good guy the bad guy if everybody starts shooting. i have belief and trust that our folks are listening at the state on this issue particularly as it involves protests. jason? >> [inaudible] >> i don't have that information. i can -- i don't have any indication they are not being cooperative at this point. >> [inaudible] >> i have no idea about that either.
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when i find the out i will share sit with you all. any on the for questions? jason? nia? >> [inaudible] i would like to leave that private if you don't mind. >> [inaudible] >> yes overwhelmingly. dallas -- i use the word dallas loves because dallas has had the reputation of being a city that hates. one example why i say it loves. they took an inner city kid like me with flaws and made it -- made me their police chief. it's an extraordinary city. and have supported me through very difficult challenges.
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you don't see that everywhere. one of the first people to get fired under a controversy is a police chief. you get thrown under the bus it's one of the most difficult jobs in the country, being a police chief a major city. i have seen my friends get thrown under the bus if something happens. , this mayor and the city council, they are different people, they are special. i'm proud to be working here as their police chief. i'm proud to be associated with the leadership here in this town. it's a special place. it really is. that's all i had on my list. nobody else was on my list. if you do this orderly i'll take some more questions. but if you try to talk over each other i'll have another cup of coffee. lady in orange.
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what's your name? >> the question i have is about [inaudible] >> i have no idea. today will be a day hopefully after this i can really get in a quiet place and get my head around these services i don't know how i'm going to make it through the week. i wanted to do this where i could have the rest of the day to begin the services tomorrow, hopefully you all won't bug me and respect i'm trying to get through the last funeral from tuesday and i hope you respectfully understand while i ignore you. nothing personally. i like all of you, well, most of you, we can hopefully get past this with god's good grace. yes? >> chief [inaudible]
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