i was just saying to the panel here that one of the frustrations with cable news is we rarely solve anything, but we do get to shine a light. hopefully we did some of that tonight. facebook.com/the kelly file with your thoughts. thank you, panel, and it you all. good night. welcome to "hannity." the war on america's law enforcement is now intensifying. coming up in just a few minutes we'll check in with newt gingrich, also retired lieutenant general michael flynn, also laura ingraham tonight. earlier today at a courthouse in michigan, an inmate shot and kills two bailiffs and injured a sheriff's deputy after stealing the deputy's gun. over the weekend, get this, 21 police officers were hurt. that was in st. paul, minnesota, after being heart with rocks and bricks and bottles and chunks of concrete. cops were also shot at in chicago and san antonio police headquarters. multiple shots fired there. in the face of this

animosity towards police, donald trump, he is promising to be the law and order candidate. watch this. >> we must maintain law and order at the highest level or we will cease to have a country. 100%, we will cease to have a country. i am the law and order candidate. [ applause ] >> all right. here with reaction tonight, we have former nypd detective bo dietl, defense attorney daryl parks, fox news senior correspondent geraldo rivera. let's start with these attacks. seems to be open warfare on police. you've defended the president at times, geraldo. i would argue, we have 3,459 murders that have taken place in chicago alone during his presidency. but he doesn't -- he's only mentioned chicago nine times. we have thousands of others shot and injured. but if it's ferguson, he rushes to judgment without any facts.

if it's tray john martin, he rushes to judgment without any facts. if it's freddie gray or the cambridge police, he does the same thing. if he really cared about black lives and all lives, wouldn't he be speaking out loudly about chicago? >> that is a good point, and let me just put it in the context of his visit to dallas tomorrow. when he goes to show his respect, his sorrow over the horrible murders, the savage murders of these five cops, he cannot also be talking about black lives matter and the fact that too many black men are being victimized by cops. that is an issue, an important issue, but for tomorrow, he has to act and transmit his feelings in the same way he did in the charleston, south carolina, church massacre. >> bo dietl, he met in the oval office with the head of black lives matter. what's his name, deray mckesson, who's been on this program and other leaders.

by the way, after the meeting, he praised them. hillary clinton praised them. this is the group on tape chanting, pigs in a blanket, fry 'em like bacon. what do we want? dead cops. when do we want them? now. >> what do we want? dead cops. we were all a year and a half ago when they were closing down the brooklyn bridge, all the roadways. we had two cops assassinated a year and a half ago in new york. my president didn't come to new york. it wasn't that important for him to come. he should have shown support for the officers in this country. they were assassinated the same way that these dallas cops were assassinated. we need a leader to show that he cares about these cops. i get e-mails from being on your show from cops all over the country saying, please, bo, keep speaking out for us. no one else is. our president is not. >> darryl, would you meet with the head of black lives matter? do you think it's appropriate for the president of the united states or a presidential candidate to say good things about a group that has members chanting, what do we want?

dead cops. when do we want them? now. pigs in a blanket, fry 'em like bacon. do you think that's appropriate? >> sean, i think you're mixing two things up. >> they went to the white house. they met with the president. hillary clinton has praised them. would you praise that group? >> they deserve praise, yes they do. the president going to dallas tomorrow is about honoring these officers. >> did you say they deserve praise? the people that say we want dead cops? >> let me say this here. i think you're confusing some issues, right? >> no, i'm pretty -- >> first of all, when you have these kids who are out there, and you're taking it out of context meaning there are a few individuals who may say things oultd of line, but i think the concept of black lives matter is very important. >> with all due respect, all lives matter, right darryl? you were in the ferguson case. >> yes, i was. >> okay. you know why the officer in that case, wilson, wasn't indicted? because black eyewitnesses, even though obama spoke out without any evidence presented, black eyewitnesses identified michael

brown fighting for a cop's gun, identified michael brown charging that officer after repeatedly being told not to, after he knock -- >> now you've got the advent of the black panther, the new black panthers. though walk with shotguns. they want to kill cops. they say it right out. i remember the black liberation army in 1970, killing 13 cops in new york. then in 1971, we had -- [ overlapping voices ] >> the fact is that in ferguson, michael brown, the cop was innocent because there was no crime committed. it was a lie. hands up, don't shoot. but what the justice department found was that there was stam attic racism in ferguson, we can't -- we can't deny that there has -- >> geraldo, you're an attorney. 3,459 murders in chicago. >> i get that. i get that.

that is -- [ overlapping voices ] >> that it won't cop to the fact that the reason there's this tension between the black community and cops is because of black on black crime and the police have -- >> listen to me. right now we have bad cops like they say bad doctors. right now if these cops did something wrong, they should get tried and prosecuted. my point is you got guys going out there. one-half of 1% of cops doing one thing. even if the clergy, it's more than one-half of 1%. >> wait a minute now. what we saw last week, we saw two black men getting murdered, right? >> murder is a legal term. wait a minute. stop. do cops deserve the presumption of innocence? are we going to do trial by videotape? do those cops deserve a fair trial? yes or no? they do. so it's not murder. you don't know it's murder.

murder is a legal term. >> okay. so listen to me. those cops were bad. let's all say they were bad and they killed those gentlemen. don't they deserve the due process of law. >> can't we all agree that we want tomorrow is the president of the united states to go to these five families in dallas and to say i'm sorry. >> how about he apologizes to the officer in ferguson -- >> wait a minute. [ overlapping voices ] >> why can't he be the healer in chief? >> because he's a divider. >> you've got to give him a chance. [ overlapping voices ] >> i got the answer. i got the answer. talk to chief brown. let him talk to chief brown. i challenge -- >> let him talk to chief brown. >> of what the problem is. and the problem is not the cops. the problem is the environment. when 70% of black children don't have a father and they're being brought up by a mother, it is an issue. >> i got a question for geraldo.

inappropriate for the president to meet with the head of black lives matter based on what they have said and the chants they have made? >> i do not think it was inappropriate. what i do think is -- >> what do you want? dead cops. . >> i want the president to be the healer. it's been eight years. mr. constitutional attorney. he's a four-time loser, geraldo. he was wrong -- [ overlapping voices ] >> why can't he go to these families and say, i'm sorry this happened to you. thank you for your service. [ overlapping voices ] >> when is he going to apologize to the cop in ferguson? >> sean, sean, the cop in ferguson doesn't have a job anymore, and he didn't do anything wrong. >> i got to break. we'll have more with our panel. they're coming back later in the show. stay with us. also coming up tonight, rudy giuliani is receiving a lot of criticism for these remarks. we'll get to that. it's up next. we'll get reaction from former speaker of the house newt

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welcome back to "hannity," and tonight tensions are high in america. former new york city mayor rudy giuliani, he's under fire for calling out the black lives matter movement. take a look. >> when you say black lives matter, that's inherently racist. >> well, i think their argument -- >> black lives matter. white lives matter. asian lives matter. hispanic lives matter. that's anti-american, and it's racist. >> president obama is taking a completely different stance on the black lives matter movement. the president is actually

comparing the group to the abolition and woman sufficient raj movements. watch this. >> the abolition movement was contentious. the effort for women to get the right to vote was contentious and messy. there were times when activists might have engaged in rhetoric that was overheated. and occasionally counterproductive. but the point was to raise issues so that we as a society could grapple with them. >> in the wake of the dallas police ambush, donald trump is praising america's law enforcement officers, and here's what he said earlier today. take a look. >> our police officers rush into danger every single day to protect our communities, and they often do it thanklessly and under relentless criticism.

they serve thousands of lives every year, perform countless public services every day, and yet their names will likely never appear in a single headline or media report. but i want our nation's police to know that we thank you from the bottom of our heart. >> joining us now, the co-author of recovering god in america, reflections on the role of faith. he's a former speaker of the house, fox news contributor newt gingrich. so we have this terrible shooting where these cops are killed and others are injured in dallas. we have over the weekend shots fired at san antonio police headquarters. we have shots fired at chicago police this weekend. and earlier today we have a michigan, two court officers are killed. and the president is praising a group and invited them to the white house that actually said, pigs in a blanket, fry 'em like bacon. what do we want? dead cops. when do we want them? now. and they also are advisers, and

hillary clinton has met with them and wants their endorsement. what are we to make of that? >> well, i think you have to recognize that the left in many ways as gone crazy. donald trump had it right just now. the police are domestically what the military is overseas. they are the line of defense for civilization. and are there some mistakes? yeah. but as a general rule, we generally track down those mistakes. if it's promappropriate, we try people for having made those mistakes. but overwhelmingly, police get involved like firemen, for the purpose of trying to help human beings, for trying to bring order to a society which would otherwise fall apart. president obama's relentless failure in seven and a half years in the area of race relations is in some ways the saddest part of his administration. he could have been a beacon of

hope. he could have reached out to every young african-american and said, look, i'm proof you can make it in america. he could have been a person who brought us together, and instead as he did once again today, he is endlessly on the left wing. he is endlessly divisive. he has made race relations in america worse, and it is truly sad. >> i want to put up on the screen -- i couldn't understand during the debate when the question was asked of hillary and bernie sanders, you know, black lives matter or all lives matter. look at these numbers. since obama has been president, in chicago, his hometown, his home city, at least 3,459 people have been murdered. thousands more shot and injured. he has only mentioned chicago and the murder rate there nine times during his presidency, about once a year. and meanwhile if it's ferguson, if it's freddie gray in baltimore, if it's trayvon martin, that could have been me

35 years ago. that could have been my son. or if it's the cambridge police. if it's a high-profile race case, he talks about it. here you have an epidemic, mostly black-on-black crime in the city of chicago. 3,459, but he only weighs in on these divisive high-profile cases. what does that say about him? >> well, he's an irresponsible politician. as you know, in a number of the cases he weighs in on, he's factually wrong. he doesn't know what he's talking about. he immediately adopts the symbols, and it is the worst possible thing for a president of the united states to do. i mean if he were a white president, automatically saying about a white victim, that could have been me or that could have been my son, all of the news media would be shocked at the implicit racism of that comment. >> yeah. >> the president of the united states should care about every american of every ethnic background. he should care about every person who gets killed, and he should be totally, 100% behind

supporting the police, who are frankly the thin line of civilization here at home. >> i think that's extraordinarily well said. here's another thing. i'm offended because i lived during the time when rudy giuliani was the mayor of new york. the murder rate when he took office was near 2,500 murders a year. many black kids were getting killed in the city of new york, and he made a conscious decision to focus his policing to save lives, and that number was reduced to less than 500 a year. those are a lot of lives that were saved because of the actions that he took. i want to ask from this perspective because i think this campaign is, many in ways, going to come down to are you better off than you were eight years ago? and when we talk about minority communities in america, i want to put up some statistics. we'll put it up on the side of the screen. you can look at it. african-americans on food stamps are up 58% since obama took office. the number of african-americans in poverty has jumped more than

8% under obama. the number of african-americans not in the labor force, that's up 20%, 19.6%. the homeownership rate for african-americans is down by 4.6%. household median income is lower for african-americans under obama. if you look at all of these numbers, things have not improved. but, yet, 90%-plus of the black community will vote democratic. what do republicans need to do to fix that because they're not doing well under these policies? >> well, i think first of all, you have to recognize that some of the president's popularity is being the first. i mean just as john f. kennedy was the first irish catholic to become president, there's a certain pride, you know. here's somebody i can identify with. and i think that his appeal in that sense to the black community will remain very high no matter what the practical results are. but i think the number-one thing for republicans is to remember

what jack kemp taught us. people have to know that you care before they care that you know. i am hoping that after the convention, that donald trump is going to go to the south side of chicago. he's going to go to he's going to go to newark. he's going to go to places where people are in pain, people who don't expect to see a republican care about them, and he's going to outline for them things that can be done that are practical and real, that would enable them to have better lives and a better future. and my guess is a lot of those folks are going to respond very positively. people don't want to sit around as somebody described in chicago, and if you have a cookout on a friday or saturday night, you have to listen with one ear to see whether or not there's going to be a drive-by shooting, so you have to worry about your kids getting killed at random. i mean people don't want to live like that. the democrats are trapped by their failed institutions and their failed ideology. and republicans are trapped by not being there, by not being part of the conversation. therefore, not having

legitimacy. >> you know, i made the case on radio. this week we expect that donald trump will make his selection for vice president. you were on that short list. you have acknowledged that you're being vetted. and here's the question i think -- the questions i think are most important. of all the people being considered, these are the questions i would ask if i was mr. trump. who would be best at prosecuting the case against hillary clinton in terms of the list that he has? who would be best in terms of making the case and articulating the case for donald trump with a positive voice like you have? who would be the person that would pretty much be assured a win in any presidential/vice presidential debate. who has balanced the budget and given us a surplus. i check all the boxes and you're right there at the top. i think you'd be the right choice. what is your response to that? and i don't say it as a friend. i'm speaking objectively here. i think you would prosecute the

case against hillary better than anybody, strategize and help them win, and help him govern which, with a hostile speaker and majority leader would be difficult. your response? >> well, look, it's all very, very flattering. i think that's a pretty good set of criteria. but what it really comes down to in the end, and one of the reasons people focus on vice presidential selections is it becomes a question of chemistry. trump has to find a person he is comfortable with that he wants to potentially eight years working side by side. that's all about him. as you know, he and i have a good relationship. >> it looked pretty close in cincinnati last week. >> we had a great time out there. but i don't want to prejudge anything. i respect his right to pick the person that he thinks would be most helpful to him. i've told him, and i will tell you publicly, i will actively do everything i can, calista joins me in this. we will both do everything we

can to help him get elected no matter what. i mean if he needs us in that slot, we're certainly going to talk about doing it. if he doesn't need us in that slot because he's got somebody else, we're going to be for the ticket, and i'll be -- as you know, i'll be in cleveland next week because i'm on your show every single night. >> well, maybe not. it depends. are you going to try and cancel if you get selected? >> no, no, no. >> my point is you've done this successfully. you gave us a balanced bunl et and a surplus. i don't know anybody that is as smart or as articulate in prosecuting the case against the clintons. and also defending trump and really laying out the case why he should be that person that we put in that position. but that's my opinion. i don't want to embarrass you or put you in a tough spot. but thank you for being with us. coming up next tonight on this busy news night own "hannity." >> why is donald trump better equipped to handle the challenges of racial division, guns, police violence? >> yeah.

one word. leadership. >> retired lieutenant general michael flynn praises donald trump's leadership. he is also rumored to be on trump's v.p. short list. lieutenant general flynn will join us next in studio. later, according to a new report, donald trump is just days away from revealing his 2016 running mate. who should it be? we'll check in with laura ingraham, monica crowley. they'll weigh in on that. more tonight on "hannity." ♪ [announcer] is it a force of nature? or a sales event? the summer of audi sales event is here. get up to a $5,000 bonus on select audi models.

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welcome back to "hannity." the republican national convention is one week from tonight, and rumors are swirling about who donald trump is going to pick to be his vice presidential running mate. joining me now is one of the people reported to be on trump's v.p. list. he's the author of a brand new book, "the field of fight" retired lieutenant general michael flynn. it's an honor to have you. i'm an admirer of yours. what do you think of the idea of

you being vetted to be the vice president? >> it's an unbelievable honor. for a kid from a small town in a small state of rhode island -- >> i lived in rhode island for a while. >> i grew up in middletown. went to university of rhode island. >> you reported the military fired you for calling our enemies radical jihadists. you know a man by the name of phillip haney. he was one of the founders of our department of homeland security. he told me that when obama became president, he was ordered to scrub the names of muslims that had radical ties. >> yeah. >> what is going on? >> what's going on is a level of political correctness that is so dangerous for our country, and it is -- and it touches every aspect of what we're seeing not only overseas against this radical islam and right here at home with the attacks that we've recently seen in orlando and san

bernardino, but this political correctness is also weighing heavy in what we're seeing right now with this sort of semi-or kwauzy state of anarchy in some of the cities around this country. we've got to stop being so politically correct, say the god's honest truth. >> the president won't say radical islam. >> until you clearly define your enemy, you can't develop a coherent zrstrategy to defeat them, period. that's the way it is. i could not go to any boss i ever had and say, boss, i don't know who it is we're facing. they'd throw me out of the room. >> i think you'd meet the top criteria to be president. i've looked at your background. it's impressive. probably a lot of people don't know you, and you were a democrat for a long time, right? >> i was raised in a -- >> i'm so sorry to hear that. >> but i say, sean, that the democratic party that exists today is not the democratic party that i was raised in by my

family, by my mother and father, who my mother especially was a local, state kind of person involved in politics. >> sure. would pro-choice be hard for republicans to absorb? it's such an important issue for the base as -- >> i think that the -- first of all, that's a legal issue, and the important thing is if you want to change the supreme court of the united states, vote for donald trump and get him into office. >> yeah. do you like his choice? do you like the list that he laid out? >> i do. i absolutely do. and i think that there's a few others that are out there that would be very strong. >> one of the things that i think is most important, if i was ever -- i'm not. i'm just putting myself in a position of thinking through it. if you were tnking about who your vice president would be, if, god forbid, a 9/11 happens on your watch -- >> right. >> if a pearl harbor happens, if a depression, the stock market crashes, a financial issue, i know how you would be on military issues because your background is impeccable.

how would you be able to advise donald trump on an issue like the economy? >> i think quite a bit actually. i mean, you know, the thing i think that people mistake, you know, particularly those of us in the military, that we only have grown up focusing on tactics and military things. actually our military is so professional, and what this country has afforded me and the privilege that it has given me is a whole range of issues that i've been really blessed to be able to study and to look into. so i think -- i think the idea of understanding global economic conditions, understanding all the -- >> how do you feel that we handled in october of 2008, the financial crisis? what would you have done different? >> i probably wouldn't have given into wall street as quickly as we did. >> i agree with you. >> i just wouldn't have done that. i mean there -- you know, i think that we give in too easily to the things that are pulling

us in, and i just -- i don't think that's the right thing. >> let's say you don't get the job as v.p. would you consider if donald trump asked you to be the chairman of the joint chiefs, if he asked you to be secretary of defense, would that be something that interested you? >> here's where i stand on service, sean. i served this country for many, many decades in uniform, and i loved it, and i actually miss it. service to this country is an honor, and if i were asked to serve this country in some capacity in the future, it would be an honor to serve this country. >> now don't get mad at me. it's my job. if you had to choose defense secretary, joint chief's chair, or maybe the cia director -- >> yeah. >> would those three interest you? >> you know, at this stage, sean -- >> you don't want to be hypothetical? >> i don't want to be hypothetical. what i want to do is i want to make sure that the people in this country understand that our country is going in the wrong direction, and we need -- >> i agree with you. >> -- tough, smart, savvy leadership that understands how to handle these big problems

that we're facing. i see that in donald trump. i do not see that in hillary clinton. >> i think donald trump has the potential to be not a good president but a great president. >> i do too. >> because i look at his agenda, and i've interviewed him enough. i like what he says about the economy. i like what he says about helping the v.a. i like what he says about building up our defense. i like what he says about health savings account and balanced budget. i also like what he says about building a wall. you were on abc, and you corrected the host. you said, it's not undocumented. it's illegal. >> the politically correct word, undocumented to describe what is actually illegal. so that is a huge issue that we have to overcome, and this business of illegal immigration is affecting every aspect, our education system, our health care system, our economy, period. these are things that we're going 0 have to come to grips with in this country. >> i don't mean to be -- if you got selected, are you ready for what's about -- what would be about to happen to you? we have a hostile news media out there that would want from day

one to take you down. >> yeah. >> it's hard, right? >> yeah. i think that -- >> you're ready for that? >> i think what we need is we need strong leaders who, you know, have sort of, you know, witnessed the challenges that we have faced and sort of been there, done that to a degree. and i hate to be sort of euphemistic about it, but i would just say that at this stage, our country's going to the wrong direction, sean. and unless we -- >> fix it. >> unless we fix these things, and i'm going to tell you, the people that are on the democratic side right now, cannot do that. and i have no confidence, and i've asked publicly for hillary clinton to step down just because she lacks total accountability for her sfself. >> she lies. but you know what, general, i really see you in public service. you've served your country with honor and distinction. we'll be watching closely. when we come back, laura ingraham, monica crowley are here to weigh in on who donald trump should pick to be his running mate. then later tonight --

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♪ welcome back to "hannity." so with the republican national convention just one week from today, donald trump spoke to "the washington post." he shared some insight into what he is looking for in a vice presidential running mate. trump said, quote, i will make up my mind over the next three to four days. in my mind, i have someone that would be really good. joining us now with reaction, the editor in chief, fox news contributor laura ingraham, and fox news contributor, washington times columnist, also a syndicated radio host in her own right, monica crowley. guys, good to see you. laura, you talk to donald trump right now.

who would you like? who would you tell him to pick? >> yeah, it wouldn't be flynn for a variety of reasons. he's an obvious patriot, great guy, could be chairman of the joint chiefs, maybe secretary of defense. but my three would probably be newt, jeff sessions, or chris christie. and let me tell you why. number one, i think the most important -- >> in that order, laura? would that be your order? >> yeah -- well, i don't even know if i have an order. i'll be happy with any of those three and i'll tell you why. i don't know if i have a favorite. number one, it has to be someone who has trump's back. that is an absolute must, meaning not someone who is going to just wilt every time "the new york times" writes an editorial. number two, it has to be someone who is not going to have a lot of trouble in the vetting process. you know, the media has already vetted chris christie and newt a million times. i mean both of them have walked through the fire. jeff sessions, you know, the vetting process on jeff sessions is going to be i. that's not hard. i think the other issue is it has to be someone who can

definitely handle the media, sean, someone who can speak directly to the problems facing this country, the problems that globalization has foisted upon the middle class. >> you think jeff sessions checks that box, though? i mean i love jeff sessions. i love his principles. does he check that box that you just mentioned? >> well, i think he's not as strong in that box. he knows all the answers. he won't wilt. he has no problems being vetted. nobody is 100% on any of those three, but i think those three categories have to be filled by anyone who is being considered by trump. i know that -- >> it seems we keep reading mike pence, mike pence, mike pence. why is he not on your list or in the three? >> because pence pence has not been vetted. people are concerned about trump out there. there's some people concerned about him. we know why. pence has never been vetted. i mean there's liable to be -- i mean i don't know anything -- i like mike pence a lot, but i don't see him, after the way he handled that religious restoration act, the religious freedom of restoration act, i

don't -- when mike pence just wilted on that issue, i don't see him standing as firmly as someone like christie, who could pretty much defend and attack anything that he's asked to. >> monica and i were playing a little game before. so i want -- i think newt is the best choice, and i'll tell you why. i think he commands with his intellect anybody's attention when he speaks. i think he would prosecute the case against hillary. nobody could do it better. i think he would champion trump and lay out the reasons what his agenda is, why he'd be a great president. he'd be the most articulate. i agree he's loyal. he's great with the media. he's been vetted. i also think there are other things that are really important. newt gingrich has a backbone and a spine. trump has a very bold agenda. he's going to need a partner that can command the attention of congress, and the person i think would be strongest is newt. >> listen, i totally agree with you on newt. i love newt. i think he'd be a phenomenal

pick for vice president. i think any of the names that laura suggested, i agree i would be happy with any of them. i think there are two other things that come into play here. >> but conservatives won't like christie, will they? >> look, i mean trump has a bit of a problem with the conservative base, but then again you're in a general election mode, and where are they going to go? >> but this is important. he only has 73% of republicans. who would get him that 20% that he needs if he wants to win? i think the most logical answer is newt. >> newt. i mean jeff sessions, there are others that are solid conservatives who could help him on that score, but there are two other things that come into play here, sean. one is reassurance, okay? donald trump has given many americans a lot of hope. now he's got to offer some who are a little bit afraid of a trump presidency because he's an unknown quantity, they don't know how he's going to governor. >> how about a guy that balanced a budget -- the last person -- first of all, he was the architect of republicans coming into power for the first time in 40 years. not only balanced the budget, left a surplus, and the last

transformative political figure in d.c., welfare form, et cetera. >> that brings me to my second point. voters are looking for reassurance from his number two pick because the guy at the top of the ticket has never done this before. so that's a legitimate concern. but to your point, it's about picking somebody who knows how to govern. now, in that case, newt gingrich absolutely fits the bill. but there are others. chris christie knows how to do it. mike pence knows how to do it. >> if you had to pick one, who? >> look, you're putting me on the spot here. i would be happy with any of the final four or five. >> i wouldn't be happy with anyone but newt, but that's my opinion. laura, let me go back to this idea. 73% is a pretty low number. >> yeah. >> in terms of the percentage of republicans. do you agree with these three points, that newt would prosecute the case better than anybody on hillary? >> i do. >> do you agree he would champion trump as a really good president, and do you think that he could get that extra 20% that trump needs? >> i -- i don't know if newt can get the never trumpers. i'm kind of beyond the never trumpers. i just -- i'm not going to, you

know, gnash my teeth over the never trumpers. i think trump is going to win this on his own. i really do. i think the vice presidency is going to be more important this time around than previous occasions. i think the independents are who we have to go for now and broaden that coalition out. i'm sticking to what i said. newt, christie, sessions. i don't think pence has walked through that white-hot spotlight of national media attention. >> he hasn't. >> christie can take on anybody. >> i agree with that. >> he fileted marco rubio in about 45 seconds. it was like he had to put a pair of depends on, okay? he will destroy whoever the vice presidential pick is for hillary clinton. newt would do a great job. the only problem, sean, is that, okay, let's fast forward eight years. let's say trump wins. newt's going to be, what, 78 years old. i guess it's possible to be president. you also have to think forward. >> you got to admit when he talks, ep does command attention, and people say wow. he's intelligent. he's bright. he's inspiring. >> christie does too.

christie before bridge gate was the most youtubed republican politician out there. >> when the state is downgraded that many times, i think that would be a big issue in the campaign. i'd worry about that. thank you. it's going to be interesting. it will be a great week. thank you both. appreciate it. coming up next tonight right here on "hannity." >> if a policeman is neat, he's conceited. if he's careless, he's a bum. if he's please nt, he's a firtd. >> paul harvey back in 1970 talking about, quote, what policemen are made of. now in light of what is happening across the country, we want you to hear this. ♪ is depression more than sadness? ♪ it's a tangle of multiple symptoms. ♪ ♪ trintellix (vortioxetine) is a prescription medicine for depression. trintellix may start to untangle

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gingrich. the day something horrible happens i'd want him next to me. i think it would help"on the re" right now. >> i am the law and order candidate. [ applause ] >> we're asking cops to do too much in this country. >> this killing it, has to stop. we have to come together and end all. this. >> america in crisis and many americans are furious that the obama administration seems asleep at the wheel and the president is failing to show strong leadership to help make americans feel safe. in seconds, you are going to hear from the doctors, the police chief and donald trump right here "on the record." and, first, an emotional plea from the trauma surgeon demanding change. >> i stand with the dallas police department. i stand with law enforcement all over this