it's either going to be one of those two guys. that's tomorrow on the factor. thanks for watching us tonight. i am bill o'reilly. please always remember it stops right here. we're definitely looking out for you. breaking tonight, president obama in an attempt at a healing moment on race relations, may have fallen short again. we'll get to the guest list at the white house in a moment. welcome to "the kelly file," i'm megyn kelly. a short time ago, president obama finished meeting with law enforcement, elected official, and some black lives matter activists from across the country. in a get-together that the white house described as a quote conversation about community policing. >> we're not at a point yet where communities of color feel confident that their police departments are serving them with dignity and respect and equality and we're not at the

point yet where police departments feel adequately as supported at all levels. >> the meeting comes roughly one week after the shooting deaths of alton sterling in louisiana, and philando castile in minnesota. in both cases national outrage was ignited, racial tensions heightened, and new anger at law enforcement took the form of protest across this country. the death of castile, in minnesota, even garnered a passionate reaction from minnesota's governor, who questioned whether the shooting would have occurred had castile been white. >> would this have happened if those passengers or the driver and passenger were white? i don't think it would have. so i'm forced to confront -- and i think all of us in minnesota are forced to confront this kind of racism exists. >> wow. now after angry protests in a series of attacks on cops, including a deadly ambush in dallas, texas, new evidence is coming to light, and not getting much attention from the larger

media about the two cases that, in part, resulted in this. and the folks leading the national debate, well, you'll hear about that, too. in a moment, we're going to hear from former l.a. police detective, mark fuhrman, and raid you host d.l. hughley. but first, we go to trace gallagher who has been following the latest developments in this. trace? >> reporter: and we're going to play you dispatched audiotapes by news outlets that appear to show a broken taillight was not the reason roseville police originally pulled over philando castile. instead, one of the officers believed he was following a robbery suspect. listen. >> "the two occupants just look like people that were involved in a robbery. the driver looks more like one of our suspects, because of the wide-set nose". >> castile's family says it sounds like racial profiling. the lawyer for the officer who

shot castile says there was reasonable suspicion for the traffic stop and that the shooting had nothing to do with race and everything to do with the presence of a gun. but now philando castile's girlfriend has changed her story, saying the officer didn't know anything about a gun, telling abc news, quoting, he didn't ask about it. he didn't know it was on his person. he came to the car and said it was a traffic stop for a taillight and asked for a license and registration, that was it, that was all. but that was not what the girlfriend said on tape moments after the shooting. watch. >> "he's licensed to carry. he was trying to get out his i.d. and his wallet out of his pocked and he let the officer know that he was -- he had a firearm and he was reaching for his wallet. >> the tape also has the officer saying he repeatedly warned castile to keep his hands in

sight. and now the roseville police chief is slamming comments made by minnesota governor mark dayton claiming castile never received medical attention. chief rick mathwig says he was given cpr. and the chief went on to say the castile's girlfriend and 4-year-old daughter were also treated well despite the girlfriend's allegations to the contrary. megyn? >> trace, thank you. joining me now with more, former l.a. police detective mark fuhrman. mark, good to see you. this is what so often happens in these cases, is we see what looks like disturbing video, and disturbing facts and there's rush to judgment and i don't know what the facts are going to bear out in this minnesota case, but you tell me whether -- why we're not seeing equal media coverage as some of the initial allegations appear to be falling apart. >> well, megyn, i suppose some of these media outlets are getting a lot of mileage out of actually starting a fire and then throwing gasoline on it. when they have a cell phone video, let's just take the

sterling case to begin with in baton rouge. >> that's the one in louisiana. >> in baton rouge. yes. when you have that cell phone video, i believe it's advantageous for the officers. it shows not only did they get a radio call with the man with the gun. they identified the man. the man refuses to get on the ground. they taze him, it's infective, and they deescalate their force, and tackle him and try to grapple with him and get control of him and handcuff him. he goes for a gun, one officer says he's got a gun, a shooting goes down. i believe that shooting will be not only in policy, there won't be any charges, state or federal, and that's the way it's going to go down, i suspect, but that's my belief. now we go to the castile shooting. all we know in the castile shooting initially is we see a wounded man or what we believe to be a wounded man in the car, and the girlfriend telling us what occurred. we don't know anything else. we see an officer standing by the window, but we don't know anything that preceded this, but

yet they run away with, it had to be a racist shooting by the police. >> how about that? because i mean it was extraordinary -- listen. it's not that extraordinary in today's day in age to hear people, you know, civilians watching it make that leap, or in the case on this show last week, the reverend jesse jackson mad that leap and said those cops are racist. but the governor -- the governor of the state coming out and saying this is about racism is quite a leap, especially now that we know that there was a report of a robbery suspect. you hear the officer saying he believed he matched the description, and there are now several inconsistencies already that we know of in the girlfriend's story including one in which she said they kept her for six hours in the police station with access to know one. and now we know in fact it was only two hours, and there are at least two other inconsistencies in the story that she told. >> megyn, the girlfriend is either lying before or she is

lying now. it doesn't matter which, she is lying one time or the other. at the very least she is completely confused and knows nothing. but when you look at an officer encountering a situation, it's not profiling to look for a suspect that's identified in a crime. that's called police work. if he has the probable cause to stop this person and says "don't move your hands," and he moves his hands, he is forward and seeing what he believes to be a gun, that's a good shooting. it's going to be disturbing if these shootings turnout to be in policy, and legal, but outside of a purview of prosecution by the justice department. but those are the facts, and that's the way it goes down sometimes. and i always find it fascinating, megyn, that everybody thinks they know how to be a cop, but they really don't. that's like saying you go to the doctor for a reason, you go to the doctor to have them diagnose you, you don't do it yourself and operate on yourself. well, the police are the same way. it's a profession, and they're very good at it and they

actually train and they're educated and it's constant training. but if i could just add this one thing, the people at large from the president, right down to the last citizen in the community, fails to realize one thing. police departments concentrate their manpower in the most crime-ridden, most violent crime areas and those officers don't have a choice. those officers are driven by a radio that tells them where to go, that a citizen in that community is saying "i need help, this just happened, this person just did this, this person just shot them." so this is not something the officers have a choice. they're trying to do a job that is almost entirely impossible. >> mark fuhrman, thank you. >> thank you. joining me now with reaction, d.l. hughley, actor, radio host and author of

"black man, white house, an oral history of the obama years." d.l., thank you for being here. >> thank you for having me. i didn't know mark fuhrman was going to be here. >> what did you make of that? you're shaking your head. >> i think cops have a different perspective than us and it was interesting to hear mark fuhrman who was actually -- got in trouble for perjuring himself, called him a liar. it's ridiculous. >> what do you make of the fact that she had inconsistencies in her story? >> i think the cop had inconsistencies, too. >> so you let the evidence play out, and jump to racism? >> it is my belief no matter what happen, no matter what we see, the cops are given a presumption of innocence. if that same tape showed the suspect doing something, that would be all the prosecution needed and they say the evidence is all right here. but the cop gets the presumption of innocence. no matter what they see, we could see somebody getting shot to death. well don't know what happened before. we don't know what happened after. i know this. in a state, in both these states, a lot of men, louisiana,

47% of people carry guns. men carry guns. so men having guns on them can't be that unusual. why wasn't that the first question rather than assume doing you have a permit for that? >> you're making assumptions. we don't know what happened. all we have is her testimonial, which doesn't capture the actual event. do we know whether she's credible? >> we know this. we know he had a permit to carry a gun. >> that doesn't answer the question. >> it absolutely answers the question. >> it he pulled it, did the officer feel threatened? >> why on earth -- here's what we know. he had a permit to carry a gun. when you get a permit to carry a gun, they tell you exactly how to act when a police officer pulls you over. >> that doesn't mean he didn't threaten the officer. >> you're willing to give him presumption -- >> i'm not giving him presumption. well, the law gives him presumption. i'm saying we don't know the facts. we saw this happen with michael brown in ferguson. >> and we still don't know the fact there's. we have a police officer's word and a grand jury's word. >> no, we have the department of justice's word. >> the department of justice

shut down ferguson. >> the department of justice found that the police there had endemic racism. they found that. >> right. >> but they also exonerated the officer and hands up don't shoot was a lie and that michael brown was the aggressor. >> wow. here is what i say. >> don't wow me. that's what they found. >> i can say wow if i want to. >> that is what they found, d.l. >> they found systemic racism, right? >> uh-huh. >> it's unbelievable they also found systemic racism. and we know darren wilson left the department it had to be it was so racist it had to be disbanded. and another department that is rife with racism. >> so that makes him a racist? >> i have no problem, i have no problem -- >> michael brown grabbed that officer's gun and tried to shoot him in his patrol car. >> that is -- no one has proven that. >> that's what eric holder's doj concluded. >> and eric holder's doj concluded that department was so rife -- >> that's a done. i already conceded that, d.l.

we're talking about michael brown and the lie of hands up, don't shierkts i don't dodge at all. i'm here on fox news. >> let's stay on it. michael brown. eric holder, doj. you're trying to get out of bounds you are. let's stay inbounds. >> we were talking about -- >> that michael brown -- >> we were talking about the young man that just got murdered in minnesota. >> and the rush to judgment and the assumption that you know something when you don't actually know it. >> first off, what i'll tell you is this. it is not uncommon for you all to see one thing. the only place racism doesn't exist is fox news and the police department. >> come on. that's insulting. you just insulted millions of people watching this channel. >> you know what? i'm insulted by the things i hear on this network. so we're even. i could care less about people that insult me on a daily basis. >> you're making a point -- before the insults, the point you started to make, and that's true. whites perceive the situation. let me finish. let me just finish. >> black men didn't deserve it.

>> could you hold the insults for a second so we can have a productive information. you were going to make the point that whites see certain incidents than blacks. we saw that in the o.j. simpson case. i'll give you that most reasonable i'm would give that. but you know what shuts down the dialogue? throwing out the term racism before we know what happened. >> first off, i'll say this. i -- i believe there is a benefit of doubt given to the police officers that's not given to anybody else, and obviously they do a tough job. in 2006, the fbi came out with a police report, they were right with white supremacists. not me. why i would believe, if i know that, i don't know a black man that hasn't had a run of-in with the police officers, from the high toast the lowest. so my perception -- you've been so my perception is based on -- i lived in the city that mark fuhrman lived in that also had to be taken over by the federal government because it was so

rife -- >> it's very dangerous when you get to the point where you paint an entire group with the same brush based on the bad actions. >> that is interesting to hear on this network that really is. amazing to hear on this network. >> thanks for being here. >> thank you for having me. >> take care. also tonight, new details on a blockbuster report alleging that some fbi agents think loretta lynch and bill clinton reached a secret deal. governor mike huckabee is next on that. plus, reports that the agents on this case had to sign secret -- special secrecy documents. also, almost a dozen new polls out today point to one thing. the presidential race is tightening up. we'll take a look at the possible game changer, just ahead. >> i think her greatest accomplishment will be getting out of her e-mail scandal. because that's the single greatest accomplishment to me that she has done. how she was able to get away from the lies, the deceit, the destruction of 33,000 e-mails. to me that's her greatest accomplishment.

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. breaking tonight and reported for the first time on fox news, new details on the intense secrecy on agents

working on the fbi probe. forced tonondisuclosure agreements, one fbi agent calling them gag orders. an fbi source says days before the agency, when loretta listen met privately with former president bill clinton, they struck an inside deal to clear ms. clinton. sourcing fbi agents on that. chief intelligence correspondent, kathryn her aidg live tonight, kathryn. >> reporter: the decision not to recommend criminal charges was quote demoralizing blow, adding the bar was set so high by the justice department, there was no way fbi agents could cross that threshold and we're learning how these agents were sworn to secret see. agents were asked to sign this form called a "case briefing acknowledgement," which is

disclosure is prohibited and subjected to tests. chuck grassly wrote to the fbi director in fbi about the issue and in a newsletter, grassly is highly critical of director comey's investigation against criminal charges given the evidence he made public. in light of all of these inconsistencies, it is even more troubling the fbi tried to gab its agents with a nondisclosure agreement on this matter in violation of whistleblower protection, grassly said, only after i wrote to you, did you advise your fbi agents they are still free to speak with congress disputing fraud and abuse. director comey said he had anticipated some of the blow-black over his recommendation, and he recommitted to full disclosure. >> i understand people's question questions and interest. i'm a huge fan of democracy.

>> we don't know when agents were asked to sign them and when they were told they were speak out and go to congress if there was a conflict, megyn. >> kathryn herriarris. great to see you, mike huckabeh. you've go the some contacts in the fbi. >> i worked with a lot of fbi agents during my tenure. one of whom was involved with the white water investigation of the clintons back in the '90s. he told me when he watched the comey hearings, she whe was jum out of his chair, and the so-called case briefing acknowledgement that is so euphemistic it is a gag order, like saying thelma and lou weis had a spontaneous steering

malfunction. >> why wouldn't they sign a nondisclosure, they're going to be reviewing classified information. >> several things, the fib is prohibited from talking out of their school, at least in their three-volume manuals, mostly don'ts. any fbi agent who has taken the oath to be an fbi anxiegent is already covered by this. this is an in-your-face, according to the fbi agents that i spoke. number one, it is not the fbi's typical responsibility to decide whether charges are filed. they gather the information, they do the investigation, they make a referral to the u.s. attorney, and then the decision is made. when comey came out and essentially said, nothing to finder here, let's move along, it sent shock ways throughout the borough.

>> a >> he said they never looked into whether she had lied to congress in her under-oath statements to congress about this matter, because those statements did not jibe with what he told us were the facts and so congressman chafit said, did you look into whether she lied to congress and whether, you know, those were falsehoods and he said no, i didn't because no one referred it to us. >> and the agent said that was one of the things that got him off his couch and screaming off the television. he said the fbi can start an investigation because they read a newspaper article, or because an anonymous caller calls up and says, i think megyn kelly committed a felony. >> i do not have any prove. >> and you did. here's the point, everyone to say before congress, we have to have a referral, something has to come to us that is on its face, absurd. >> i have to get to the last question. the fbi agents are doubting. okay. the last thing, the suspicion that there was a deal cut between loretta lynch and bill

clinton, what do you -- a deal for what? what do you make of that? >> you know, when this all first happened, i thought it was bill going out there, kind of ex-par th ex-parte, doing what bill would do, taking it under his control. i made even the comment i thought the biggest fireworks would be when hillary lit bill up that weekend. looking at what the results turned out to be the following week when comey decided, let's move on, you know, you have to think they talked more than just about bill's grandkids. i just don't think that's right. smith must ha something must have been said. the fact there were no witnesses and snow stano staff -- it neve happens if you're an elected official. >> i can't get near you when you walk through the halls of form news. and you're a former governor. and i found out it was all hair and makeup staff around you. he looks great, i have to have access. i gotta go, gov.

>> i need more make up and hair staff, for sure. >> for the record, every time i ever saw governor huckabee in the halls of fox news, he was such a fun, nice gentleman to talk to as you are every night. >> thank you. >> great to see you. and you know we don't like everyone but we really like him a lot. as the conventions draw near, big developments in the 2016 race are for the white house, as a series of new polls indicate, we could be in for a real nail-biter here. david wohl, and itch ararichard are next. and donald trump set to announce his running mate in less than 48 hours and we have details on who is likely to get the nod. >> i just want to pick some be who is very good, solid, and smart. smart. i'm not looking for an attack

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what's more interesting is how some of these polling groups are describing this shift, and why. joining us now with more, attorney david wohl, trump supporter, and richard fowler, a senior fellow on the new leaders couns counsel. i haven't heard that yet. we'll get to that. >> it's not that important. good to be here. >> good to see you. so you tell me, richard, is pretty much bad nausfews for he across the board in this polling. >> it shows that race is definitely tightening. there's no question about that, right? but i think it's too early to look at national polls, not to mention the fact donald trump and hillary clinton are banking on unlikely voters turning out to vote for them. trump -- >> before you move to that point, on your point, they did look at specific polls. in quinn piypiak, she had the l and ohio, they're tied 41-41, in pennsylvania, trump has 43, clinton has 41 before she was in the lead so they did look at

specific states. >> yeah, so let's -- and i think that's great. let's talk about florida for just a second. what we see in florida polls, these crazy spikes. in 20 t10. the day before the election, charlie crist was up by almost three or four points and shows because voters are so unlikely and you're not sure who will turno turnout, especially because of their polling, it's hard to determine how it's going to finally pan itself out, even in the state polls, it's too early to look at these numbers. and the argument that david's going to make is -- >> just let him make it -- >> you got your air time. david gets to say his stuff. go ahead, david. >> megan, there's tech tonic shift in those swing shifts, megan, when you talk about florida, pennsylvania, and ohio, that is extraordinary, what trump has done at this point and it's a blowback to the e-mail

scandal, there's no question about it. 66% of people find her untrustworthy, and 56% of people want her prosecuted and her unfavorables are exceeding mr. trump's. there's no doubt about it. and as far as prosecution -- look for that perjury case. >> in the meris poll, 64% see him unfavorably. it's close. >> quinpiak gets reversed. >> they don't love the candidates no offense to you guys. but richard -- >> that's fair. >> david raises a good point, that fbi primary, if you will, they may have exonerated her legally, chose not to charge, but the voters get it. they heard what comey said in the first half of his remarks that day, that she misled over, and over, and over again, the american people. >> and they've gotten it along e megan. those numbers are already baked in the poll, which is why bernie sanders did so well in the primary.

>> then why is she follow something. >> none of these take the fact that he endorsed her? the quinpiak poll -- >> if you're saying on her hones honesty, why is she going down? >> i'm saying where david is right, it is a techtonic shift. you see this all the time. it's standard -- >> they're getting slighted for a reason and that appears to be -- you tell me, the fbi primary and perhaps what we've seen in the country with respect to police and you know, this division and the candidates are dividing themselves on syrup points, as well. >> and bernie's people are going to go home. >> it's enormous. and i've got to say, megyn some be who has represented hillary clinton in these type of criminal cases, the perjury case has already been investigated. it can be turned over to ms. lynch tomorrow. she could file this case

tomorrow, no questions asked f. she doesn . >> no question it's been a bad week for hillary when it comes to polling, really bad, and it's probably not the way she wants to go into the next couple weeks with the conventions. a little hobbled. but you tell me whether she emerges from this, like this is her chance. that's the lowest week since the fbi primary is now over and she r resurrects herself. >> that's exactly what you'll see the hillary clinton campaign to do. she knows she has to regain the trust of the people terraat th n the rainbow push. she's committed to doing that. with that being said, people vote for a candidate, not against a candidate. so donald trump in this convention next week is really going to have to tease out what he's going to do for the american people instead of just saying crooked hillary on repeat. >> all right. >> we've got dana and chris, they've got a bunch of thoughts on that. great to see you both. >> thank you, megyn.

breaking tonight, donald trump just announced he will reveal his vice presidential pick at 11:00 a.m. friday morning. gotta turn on fox news, bill and martha, maybe they're going to have a leak, if not, jenna and john are going to bust in the fox news alert, they're going to bong in and tell you supposedly one of three men. so now we know the day and the time. and chris direwalt, and dana perino could be the case on the most impactful decision. we'll talk about that. and we may be just days away from cleveland, but tomorrow could be critical for those republicans still -- still trying to stop trump. we'll show you why when we come back. >> this is something that has become a media fascination and exists only in the twitter universe because it really lacks, one, a candidate, two, organization [ bell rings ] oh, hey, jamie, can you hang back a sec?

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breaking tonight, presumptive republican nominee, trump announced he will announce his choice for running mate, on friday morning, 11:00 a.m. set your dvd right now. america's newsroom, happening now. put them on so you don't miss the beginning, the leadup. what if he goes early? trump himself says he's down to no more than four choices but it's the three of you here, mike pence, newt gingrich, and governor chris christie, all in serious contention for the number two spot on the ticket. carl pick effort is live where d a busy day, carl? >> reporter: he basically turned this into his campaign headquarters outside of manhattan and had all kinds of candidates he was doing business with today for the vice presidential pick. the trump family and the pence family started the morning with breakfast, and of course they campaigned together last night. trump ended up spending the night here because of some undescribed mechanical problems

with the plane and the hotel he was staying at with a comrade downtown became a buzz of activity. newt gingrich came to indianapolis and had a meeting. when he got back to washington, he told associates he learned during his meeting with trump or shortly thereafter he was one of two finalists with pence. you've got pence and newt gingrich assuming they're finalists. and chris christie, who has been working on the transition team and the first formal rival to endorse trump. the families have been friends for a decade and he's got an inside track because of that, but he's seemed to have fallen towards the wayside and the last one is jeff sessions, the alabama senator, the first to endorse trump and helped him write his immigration plan and insiders say he's more included to be put in an advisory position because he really does sort of tend to have a calming effect on trump during some of their discussions and has a different perspective. lastly, at the conradhotel, there were a couple buses and it

was goth rocker marilyn monroe, and an awful lot of kids were wondering who the bigger star was and a lot of adults were wondering who the other celebrity is there. >> marilyn man sson, right? >> yeah. >> is that a new goth rocker? >> shows what i know about goth rock. >> marilyn manson, sorry. >> carl, great to see you. >> you can imagine trump and marilin manson? so our political panelists joining me now on trump's choice. chris dire walt, and dana perino, under george w. bush, good to see you best. maril marilyn manson. i rnunderstand you took a positn no one could overshadow mr. trump. do you want to walk that back a little bit? >> no, i think my comparison was ev evil can evil, does not ov

overshadow trump. it's the goth, the black nails and the white make up. this is not white. you've got to be loud, baby. you've got to be loud. >> all right. but seriously, what do we think? i'll ask you, dana. seriously. first of all, you should come to me -- you're seriousness. >> we'll be back to you in a minute. newt gingrich saying it's down to me and pence. that's breaking news. >> i was surprised when carl cameron said that because obvious obvious obviously newt gingrich is his own guy and it really takes a lot to come back and say it's between me because trump has not revealed that. >> i mean unless trump asked him to do that, which would add to the intrigue, but i find that hard to believe. >> why would trump goes on with brett beir, and newt come out and say, it's me, it's me and

pen pence? >> it's interesting. let's say trump tonight, gosh, they're equal in my mind, does that bother him that he might -- newt gingrich might over step the bounds? or did he ask for -- or does he not care? as long as everybody is talking about it, it's good. >> what do you think is the wisdom of that? let's just talk about newt and pence as between those two guys, chris? >> look, i -- it's hard to think that mike pence does anything for trump other than affirm a republican brand that's badly damaged. if he doesn't add anything in particular, and because of what happened, there was a religious liberty bill in indian a pence muffed it both ways, made everybody very happy, so i don't think he gives trump what the trump family thinks he does, supportive suppovoters and thin like that. i do think gingrich, talk about evil can evil.

newt gingrich could blow up his campaign. >> in the white jump suit, it would be awesome. but he does brick yng you somet, which is reinforces trump's brand, as a silo buster, thinking way outside the box sometimes. >> outside washington. >> it reinforces the brand. go ahead. she's being sarcastic. >> now you can be serious and i'll take the other role. i'm going to go on i limb and think chris christie is solidly in contention. >> do you? >> i do, because remember -- i can't wait to see you friday night and then you'll have to say, wow, dana, you were right. what does he gain him? >> what -- >> i think donald trump said he wants an attack dog, somebody a little bit younger. trump -- chris christie faces all of those. he's a loyal guy, and he knows the law. i just think that he would be willing to go after hillary clinton, and that newt gingrich, between the two of them, i think

it's a toss up. >> it got a little -- how do you put it? baggage, chris. >> who doesn't though? >> wouldn't you want one of the investigations into his administration to be cleared? wouldn't you want at least one of the investigations in the administration cleared before you pick somebody for running mate? >> bridgegate s that what you're talking about? >> there's bridgegate. >> i don't think any republican that would vote on a republican decision is going to worry about bridgegate. >> it's not that i worry about it, it's that it explodes. >> i'm over explicit christie. any chance any chance of a surprise? who is the dark horse that potentially might fly in? >> who? >> oh, who. marilyn manson? who could it be? do you have any guesses? >> i -- i still think giuliani is a good choice, and a democrat is a good choice. for trump creating this drama, i'm going to give christie the rose, or is it sessions.

or who is the real bachelor? it would be great to change it up with a stunning season finale. >> it sounds like trump, doesn't it? it sounds like him. >> remember somebody you haven't heard talk about recently is mary fallon, the governor of oklahoma. if i had to pick somebody out of thing air, i would say her. >> good, thank you for trying. great to see you both. >> oh, wait. dana perino is going on a bus trip and they're going to sleep in sleeping bags like little s peas in a pod. >> but we're going to be on the bus and on your show friday night. it's subtle, don't you think? >> i hope you pass a lot of fans in the show and not the opposite. >> we do, too. >> bring on the eggs. >> looking forward to t thank you. >> you'll see more of that on friday night. up next, does trump get set to make a decision on his running mate, why are people

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from the world headquarters of fox news, it's "the kelly file" with megyn kelly. >> well, the next 24 hours could be critical for the gop. the rnc rules committee is meeting tomorrow to discuss next week's convention, as well as the movement to free republican delegates to vote for whomever they want, not to be bound to what the voters told them, and with reports of renewed interest in this movement just days before the folks are supposed to rally behind a nominee, a little last-minute chaos may not be out of the cards. james rosen is live in cleveland with more. james? >> reporter: megyn, good evening, one delegate told me the party insiders who are whipping for donald trump are a bit worried that this dump trump movement might at least make it to the convention floor. the rnc leadership says this is

all a media confection, donald trump won fair and square and will be the party's nominee. at tomorrow's session of the committee, the dump trump forces will try to change the rules to allow delegates to unbind from the candidate they are pledged to support. if that happens, then the full convention would have to vote on that option. a leader of the movement, a delegate from colorado, told fox news she has the votes and explained why she's doing this. >> we know that donald trump, the brand of donald trump, is going to destroy our party, it's going to destroy our brand, and he's not going to win the election and he's not going to get elected. we're not going to have the supreme court justices, because we're losing the congress, the house and the senate, and the polling has shown that. >> reporter: with the republicans having ironed out their platform yesterday, the party's chief strategist predicted not much will come of this free the delegates movement. >> this is something i think has become a media fascination and

exists only in the twitter universe, because it's really lacks, you know, one, a candidate, two, any organization, three, any strategy. >> reporter: and that really is the key question here, even if the forces were to succeed, megyn, who is waiting to take donald trump's place? not clear who that would be. >> were they looking you up and down today? you're a reasonable man, very well liked. >> reporter: megyn, i can assure you i do get looked up and down here in cleveland, but probably not by the delegates. >> wait a minute, i have to ask you, was there any movement away from this push given all the polling we saw come out today that showed a tightening race and trump taking the lead in a couple of these key states? >> reporter: i think amongst the delegates and certainly at the rnc there's been a fatigue with the whole process, especially with the effort to derail donald trump several months now, i was hearing that back in april in hollywood, florida.

they want to get on with the business of having their nominee and preparing for the general election and taking on hillary clinton. >> so, when i come out to cleveland, i'll be there live all next week, as most of fox news will be, i would like you to walk next to me wearing that outfit, i'll wear this outfit, and people will be like how adorable. we look like we belong on the top of a cake together, james. >> you know, megyn, i knew if i were patient this day would one day come, and i look forward to that stroll with you. >> good-bye. >> reporter: and i can assure you it will play out exactly as you just described. >> see why we love him? bye, james, who as i mentioned, yours truly, along with the show, "the kelly file," will be live in cleveland all next week for the republican national convention. we've only been waiting for like three years. right? doesn't this feel the race has been going on that long? i'll be joined by special guests as donald trump will become the official candidate, unless that

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so, for those who missed the top of the show, we have posted on fafafafafafafafafacebook.com love your thoughts on twitter, as well. thanks so much for watching. see you tomorrow at 9:00. welcome to "hannity," and tonight donald trump's surge for his running mate is now in the final stages. in just a few minutes we'll check in with newt gingrich and eric trump, they'll join us. first, the presumptive republican nominee spent most of the day today in indiana. he met with hoosier state governor mike pence and former speaker of the house newt gingrich and yesterday chris christie met with members of the trump family. and earlier tonight trump told our own bret bayer about where he is in the process. watch this. >> indiana's been special to me, and i think, you know, the level