headquarters there. this news continues to come to the newsroom. we'll bring you the latest on reports of an attempted coup in turkey as they happen. that's it for "your world." i'm sandra smith. that's it. hello, everyone, i'm dana perino along with kimberly and greg. it's 5:00 in new york city, and this is "the five." we're covering three breaking news stories. donald trump named his v.p. pick, it is indiana governor mike pence. they will appear together in new york tomorrow. we'll get to that in a bit. new developments on the horrific new terror attack in france. the third major one in the country within the last two years. 84 people are dead. more than 50 are still fighting for their lives. around 150 others are wounded after a terrorist in a truck plowed through crowds celebrating bastille day in nice. first, a group within turkey's military has engaged in

what appears to be an attempted coup. let's get the latest from america's newsroom host bill hemmer in nice, france. we're glad you're here. >> reporter: certainly. let's start in turkey and understand the context of what they've been going through for four years now. turkey has had a war on the border that's put tremendous pressure on the people, the government. in addition, they've had the challenge from the kurdistan workers party for some time. and that sliver of the world, dana, has been so tender and so precarious for so long, it has also been a major route for isis fighters in and out of europe. if you go back to november in paris during the bombings there that we covered, those belgian terrorists admit in the open how publicly they would move across the borders between western europe, eastern europe, into turkey and back again. in addition, you've got a third factor in turkey, that's this

immigration effect. there are tens of thousands if not hundreds of thousands of syrian refugees who have created tremendous pressure on the country of turkey. so what we believe we're watching basd on the reporting we're gets is that there's a claim about a military coup. i want to emphasize some of the leaders in the government are suggesting this is a small faction within the military. as we try and flush this out over the coming hours, perhaps the coming days, we'll get a truer picture of what's happening in there. tremendous pressure on the government and its people. i think it's very interesting also, if you look at the statement that apparently came from the turkish military, what they talked about was security within the country. think about that now as we go through this story from istanbul. >> bill, you flew nice to report on that. we have obviously -- just fresh and breaking news. now 850 dead.

what is the update -- now 84 dead. what is the update? >> reporter: there's a makeshift memorial behind me the last few hours. it reminds me of being in paris in november in the place de la republique. this is becoming that here. last couple of minutes, you see people kmth together. they hug -- people come together, they hug and the tears in their eyes. for the third time in 18 months, this country has been hit by a major terrorist attack. we're learning some details about the driver, age 31, born in tunisia but lived locally in east france. he did have a criminal record. not extensive but a criminal record, estranged from his wife, a record of domestic violence that went back four years. he was in a domestic violence

incident in january and road rage in march. he was sentenced to jail for six months, did not serve. did no time because it was just his first conviction. we're piecing together what happened here about 25 hours ago. there are about 1,200 security cameras throughout nice, france. they believe in the hills outside of town they can price him loading -- can trace him loading weapons and grenades into the back of the truck and arriving at a police checkpoint a half mile from our location here. something happened that allowed him to get past the checkpoint, and he jammed the accelerator. the carnage is astounding. 84, 85 dead. this number will change throughout the night. more than 200 wounded. 25 are on life support as we speak. more in a moment from nice, france. >> bill, thank you very much.

we are also joined by dr. sebastian gorka on the phone to bring us up to speed on turkey and give perspective on the latest on the terror attack. thanks for being with us. pick your story, whichever you want to start with. >> firstly, nice is significant because -- >> sorry, i -- you're obviously with us. thank you very much. >> reporter: yes. okay.well, let's talk about the important geostrategic event, turkey. the events in france are an atrocity, our heart goes out to all of the victims right now. the geostrategic important of the coup in turkey literally cannot be over emphasized. this is the largest military in

europe belonging to nato. it was a pivotal ally during the cold war. in the last few years under the reign, and i mean the reign of erdogan, it has become a fundamentalist nation, a nation run by a muslim brotherhood, type of elite. now the military has said enough is enough with -- we're taking our country back. the founder of the secular turkish state was that the military of always going to be the guarantor of democracy. they were intimidated under erdogan. the former head of the joint chiefs was arrested on a trumped up terrorism charge. he tried to intimidate the political elite, the military elite. now the military has stepped up to the plate and said you've been playing ftse under the table with the islamists. you've been helping isis. we're going to stop it.

this is big news. >> basically erdogan made a deal with the devil. now we're seeing the results of that. >> absolutely. >> we have a question. >> let me see if i can bring the events together and weigh in. turkey wanted to become part of the european union which would entail millions of turkish and possibly refugees into the european union, the homeland on europe. meanwhile, we have in nice, allegedly this crazed idiot yells before he mows down 84 and possibly more coming up. are we seeing a pattern? should we take a lesson from what they've done wrong in europe? >> oh, absolutely. think about what brexit was about. brexit wasn't just about sovereignty and faceless bureaucrats in brussels deciding what a british sausage could have in it. it was about national security. it was about the idea that you cannot vet people coming from a

war zone as refugees into the continent of europe. with some countries like germany accepting more than a million so-called refugees who then have freedom of movement inside the eu. and secretary kerry although he denied this, somebody should tell him the facts. one of the brussels bombers got into europe on a fake syrian passport and was awarded refugee status in the eu. this isn't a hypothetical, eric, this is a reality. isis is doing this and have plans to do it in america, as well. the question of muslim populations, integration, the exploitation of communities that aren't integrated, this is national security at the highest level. >> you know, when we see events that happen in nice or in other places, they're always -- there's always the candle

lighting and the vigils, and then we move. is there any sense that we will not be moving on? that we've kind of had enough of the candles and vigils and now it is time for action? >> you know who that's up to, greg, that's up to us. that's up to the french voters. that's up to the german voters, the american voters. the elite has failed us. if you talk to the operators, if you meet with the french intelligence agents, the law enforcement agents, you meet with the fbi special agents pounding the pavement trying to keep us safe, they get. they know the threat to america. that's not the problem. the problem is the political elite that says these are not the droids you're looking for. there's no such things as jihad. religion is irrelevant. you need jobs for these guys. we're going to solve the problem. that's the issue, lack of leadership. and leadership only takes things seriously if they feel as if

they're going to lose their job or if they're replaced with people who are true leaders. look what happened last night with hillary. i was in the green room here in new york, in d.c., waiting to go on. and we see hillary clinton on the "bill o'reilly" show. i thought i'd stepped into an alternate universe. why did that happen? she knows, she finally clicked after nice. november isn't going to be about pocketbooks. it's not going to be about obamacare, november for americans is going to be about national security. am i going to be safe when i step out of my home every morning. and she's desperate. but you know it, and the five know it. this is about national security now. >> kimberly? >> hi, thanks for being with us. with national security and our interests in america at the foremost important especially given the complex events that are going on in circle, what we

saw in nice and the number of attacks that have happened throughout the world, what would be your advice to the white house, that the administration, that should be done immediately so we don't lose time between now and the next election in november? >> well, look, in my book, there are three things. get politics out of the threat assessment. no more political correctness or censorship. be honest who is the enemy, what is their plan, and recognize they're evil. they're not victims. they're evil. secondly, we have to empower our muslim allies. this includes turkey if turkey stabilized. we cannot be the face of this war, white christians, black-skinned christians, atheists can't be the face of this war. it has to be the local sunnis paying the biggest price. egyptians, jordanians, those

governments who have been dissed systematically for seven years boy obama, they have to be encouraged to come together. we want them to win and have to help them to crush isis. and lastly, i'm a kid of the cold war, and i grew up understanding that they to tall terrence are always just a generation away. these guys ary to tall terrence. the jihadi ares just as muchy to tall terrence as the communists and fascists. they just have the religious overlay. we can only win if we delegitimatized their message. we have to have a giant counterpropaganda campaign like ronald reagan had in the 1918. those three things together -- sorry it's not five -- those three things together, and we could defeat the jihadis in a matter of a year and a half. >> excellent perspective. we'll keep going with you. >> hi, i had a quick question about what do we know about the 31-year-old who perpetrated the horrific act in nice? he's a tunisian national, and

there's been no direct action made between his actions and the terrorists. we know that the terrorists have celebrated what he has done from social media. where are we in establishing a direct link to the terrorists? >> we know he's a french tunisian which is very significant. incredibly significant. tunisian of all the nations of the region has supplied the highest number of jihadis to isis which is shocking because the conventional wisdom is that tunisian is so liberal. it's not, and they provided the greatest number of jihadis. he has an s file in france which means he's had run-ins with the law, petty crime, violent crime, i don't think he served time. he was convicted, but i'm not sure he served time. if he did, that's another potential avenue pause we've seen lot of jihadis be recruited

in prison. in europe and also here in america. we've got scores of people in intensive care still. we've got americans dead, including a child. already there are people trying to generate the narrative that, oh, he wasn't a real muslim. he drank, pork, he was a bad guy. his cousin, of course, is trying to generate the kind of narrative we expect of the obama white house here. so the news is interesting, it's not conclusive with regards to connections to the jihadi conspiracy. but the point is, it doesn't matter. it doesn't matter whether he is controlled by isis or not. if he's shout iing a la action bar, he's a georgia -- akbar, he's a jihadi. >> there was a document from the "inspire" magazine, the

propaganda magazine that said step by step if you want to be a jihadist, this is exactly how to carry out an attack. i don't see why we're spending time thinking about whether or not there's a terror connection. it was described almost perfectly in "inspire" magazine. >> absolutely. this is issue two in 2010. the english language, al qaeda magazine. isis came out of al qaeda. isis is the former al qaeda in iraq, and in this magazine, you can download now, the fbi may knock on your door tomorrow. you can download. there's a photograph of an f-150 pickup truck. and the article in english says you don't need a gun. you don't need to build a pressure cooker bomb. take your truck and mow the infidel down like you're mowing grass. this attack should not have surprised anybody. the fact that we have reports that the driver, the jihadi, was

sitting on the boulevard for three to six hours, waiting to do the attack, and he got away with it, that's very bad. that's very bad. >> eric, another question. >> doctor, a comment and you can tell me if i'm wrong, crazy. i have a hunch you're going to agree with me. president obama came out this morning, this afternoon, about 3:00 or so, and he spent about ten minutes talking about the nice attack. he warned of a kneejerk reaction, an islamophobic reaction by the world and american people. he said, and i recommend diplomacy. and my mind almost exploded at that moment. i'm thinking here's a terrorist, someone who we may not think is a terrorist, but if he yells a la jaa l a la akbar, that would by definition be a terrorist for me. and for the president to say we need to use diplomacy, who are we being diplomatic with in?

terrorists now? is that what he's recommending? >> do i really have to comment? it's -- it's unconscionable. i mean, the idea that after ft. ho hood, the chief of staff of the army said the priority, his concern is that we don't threaten multiculturalism in the armed forces. after orlando, we have the attorney general say we will win with our best weapon which is love. can you tell that, please, to the people who were burned alive in the ovens of auschwitz? what weather you'-- when you're facingy to tall terrence, fascists, kkk, there's nothing to negotiate about. you can't love them. you can't win with diplomacy. you crush them into the ground. every time we have a horrific event, i say, please, god, let this be the moment when the

administration says, okay, we messed up. we're going to take it seriously now. we're going crush these individuals. >> sebastian, let me give you the other side from the dr. bolling perspective which is that here in the united states, we have been so blessed in terms of not suffering the degree of horror that we've seen -- >> that's not a blessing. that's not -- that's effort and work. >> here's my point to you. if, in fact, we have been able to hold, to hold the muslim community in this country as a part of an integrated hold, they're not concentrated in ghett ghettos, not segregated and the like as we often see in the european countries. and for that reason, they have been much more taken into the mainstream. instant, as well as keeping our arab muslim allies with us to our advantage? >> yeah. let me share the statistics of

the facts of the case. we have killed or arrested 107 isis suspects in america since the caliphate was declared tweeshs ago. not seven. not 77. 107. less than 20% were people that we discovered because their community told them about us. we found them through the internet or by accident. that is a very bad number. a very pad proportion. >> all right. doctor, i think you're going to stick around. we will to take a quick break and will be back with more on these developments. thanks.

now to another breaking story today. announcement of mike pence as donald trump's rung mated. he made the announcement on twitter, "i am pleased to announce that i've chosen governor mike penn as my vice presidential running mate." news conference tomorrow at 11:00 a.m. reporters caught up with the indiana governor in new york city earlier. >> very excited, humble, very grateful. we love indiana. we love our country. my fam couldn't be more honored to have the opportunity to run with and serve with the next president of the united states. and sean hannity has an exclusive interview with pence tonight at 10:00 p.m. eastern.

you definitely don't want to miss that. let's get more live from trump tower on the latest. very nice to see you. >> reporter: likewise, kimberly. the trump campaign and mr. pence met today. it lasted an hour and a half. the governor of indiana made it clear with his filing in indianapolis that he's not going to be running for governor obviously today. the stage craft of this revealed the realities of who the election would be a couple days ago. and mr. trump wasn't that thrilled with the way it appeared to be leaking rapidly yesterday. there was considerable consternation. he was upset, irritated about it. thought it could have been a better starting point but for their professional relationship now is the ticket. tomorrow at 11:00 they'll have a news conference, take questions. we'll see donald trump and mike pence as a twosome answering questions from the press and explaining why they believe their ticket will be better than hillary and whoever she picks. >> all right. thank you.

we've got a bunch of questions. eric, what do you think about the pick in terms of how it's playing out in the press today? >> i think everyone's digesting what mike pence is about. i was encouraged to see paul ryan with the positive tweet about mike pence. i was encouraged to see marco rubio early with a positive tweet about mike pence. i think what they'll go for, if i'm reading the selection right, is they'll go for the economy and jobs. pence has been very -- he instituted the biggest tax cut in the state of indiana's history. created a lot of jobs. he was also a -- an earmarked reformer when he was a congressman, as well. i think it's really smart for them to take that because we know all these exit polls, people say the most important things, national security, yes. but economy and jobs number one. so it sounds like a good pick. >> dana, i know you like it for a bumper sticker. >> trump-pence, five letters, perfect. i think in our a block, we were talking to dr. gorka. in his opinion, the election comes down to national security.

i think that campaigns can do both, right? so it's possible that you can be, as donald trump said earlier, i'm the law and order candidate which i think extends to nurtd, not just domestic problems we might have here at home, as well as do the jobs things. pence has very good relationships with a lot of people in the establishment, right? it's like ryan, rubio, those guys put out statements. not bad for the trump twain. i think -- >> also the tea party people? >> definitely. the relationships there. so i actually think this will be a good, safe pick for him. i do feel for newt gingrich and chris christie who i think put up a good fight for it. maybe they'll do something else. already chris christie has a big job of the transition. huge responsibility. >> couldn't be more important. greg? >> i'm not sure that this is the choice that trump wanted. you know, i think trump wanted to do something daring, and i think this has been hoisted upon

him to polish his edges. remember, trump is the switchblade, and pence is like a spork. he pleases everybody. a knife and a -- and i mean the fact is, trump is -- goes back to what gorka says about it's all about national security. and i think trump last night probably thought, flynn, after looking at nice going like, this is it, this is it, but he couldn't do it. >> all those people can be in important positions. you have christie as a.g., flynn at nsa or something of that level. >> i'm thinking -- i think he has a better job of controlling pence than newt. >> all right. >> i think this is all about the midwest. i think that what we see is if you pick mike penn, strong in the midwest, as opposed to newt gingrich who has a national profile and guess what, mike pence is a guy who's tight with social conservatives, specifically on the abortion issue, where trump has been kind of, people aren't sure what he thinks.

they're not sure if he even goes to church, all that. mike pence backs him up, gives him a base. it's the reaching out to white men in the midwest on the trade issue that really i think helps donald trump here. if his strategy has any chance, he's got to go through western pennsylvania, ohio, wisconsin, michigan. that's where mike pence is a known factor and, of course, as we heard around the table, he's good with the gop establishment. >> it sounds like an endorsement from juan williams, a learned man. next, we return to the terror attack in france, we'll be back in a moment. stay with us. discover how a lexus master craftsman turns an ordinary experience into an extraordinary one. get great offers at the lexus golden opportunity sales event. lease the 2016 es 350 for $329 a month for 36 months

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about what not to say, not about what we should do, which is why we move slower than a james taylor song. this inaction normalized terror and means we're stuck with islamism forever. our shrug is their drug. some headlines said that a truck, a truck attacked the event. no. there was someone driving that truck and what was driving that someone was islamism. if only we treated terror like something the media finds truly hateful like smoking or drunk driver, would our leaders take islamism seriously if they killed for offensively fuels? instead, our -- for fossil fuels? instead, our leader hide the facts. this is amazing, apparently the french government hid news of gruesome torch of the bataclan victims. if i gave you the details, you'd pass out. why hide deeds that should shock the world? we don't do that with other brutality. every time you hide the truth, evil wins, this isn't about the easy availability of trucks, it's about our failure to fight

evil. ambivalence masked by online sorrow no replaces real action. expressing solidarity on twitter feels good, but the war will be won on the battlefield, not on line. it's time for solidarity. get away from me, fly. >> it's not a fly. >> wow. >> that was a wasp. that was god telling me to wise up. >> never a dull moment. >> what can i say? >> that's a first. we're also following the attempted coup taking place now in turkey. hemmer, what have you got? >> reporter: dpreg, trying to piece this together -- greg, trying to piece this together on report out of turkey. this is what we're hearing, the airport's closed. heavy gunfire in the capital of

ankara. near istanbul, the largest city in turkey, tanks reported in some streets. again, this is what we're picking. now on the feed out of turkey. state tv did read a statement on behalf of the military, talking about the coup. they cited two things. one, rising autocratic rule within the turkish government. two, increased terrorism. i think that second point is very important. that goes to national security. that's going to a country dealing with a syrian war on the border, the rising threat of isis, the immigration strains placed on turkey, whereas the eu has sort of going back to last march told turkey what to do about more immigrants and refugee. in other words, keep them. that they were coming. and you had to accept them. i think you find that now in this military coup in turkey, you find it here in france going back the past year. the rising parties on the right, talk about nationalism, they talk about security here in

france. it is also true in italy, i think you mentioned this about 20 minutes ago, brexit was a part of that, as well. so that's what you see right now here in europe and stretching into further east in turkey. john kerry was with reporters in moscow earlier. he said he hopes for stability, peace, and continuity at turkey. we'll see whether or not we get that real soon. back to you in new york. >> thanks. so dana, we heard from mr. kerry, that's always encouraging. >> the state department, copy, paste. we hope for stability. always available. i understand that the state department, they have language they have to use. there's international norms, i get that. i do think that in addition to all the things that bell hemmer said, there is mount -- bill hemmer said, there is mounting pressure for president obama to do more. remember, you had hagel, panetta, and gates, three secretaries of defense, resign over the fact that they had a different perspective. this was one, that they wanted to fight harder. today we find out that not only is president obama doing this, i

think troubling partnership with putin in russia to fight isis, you saw assad, the president there saying they -- they're not serious about it. i think pressure is mounting for president obama to do more. find out also the 82rd airborne will deploy, there will be boots on the ground in december of this year, different than what president obama promised. that's okay. i think it will support them. yes, it's important that they're finally waking up but at our country's national security expense. so there's much to be done. there's much that should have been done. and it's really a matter of leadership and making the right decisions and about semantics where they can't say radical muslim terrorist. let's get going and get start

today. >> is this bad news for isis? >> i'm trying to figure this out. we pointed out that erdogan is out of the country. >> he office vacation. >> the original thought is, well, he went away, so there was the opportunity for the military faction to perpetrator a coup. or was it that he was warned or told, tipped off to lead because this was going down. i think the cia needs to dig deep and find what's going on. he's the guy who oversaw the isis oil transports going through the border. >> this will unravel into something something -- >> and putin is loving this now, too. that's been a complicated and problematic -- >> it might not be good for putin in turkey, the situation. >> yeah. >> it accounted go -- it could go the other way. listening last night to o'reilly and seeing trump and hillary clinton, it was really something. and here you have trump saying, you know, we need to be tougher,

we need a harder strategy. we need to be tougher on borders. clinton says, we need a surge in terms of intelligence. and what this -- i was like, what is that? he's saying we need to have more intelligence on the ground, more cooperation with our western allies in terms of the intelligence search. i had not heard this before. >> would you share your intelligence with snirl. >> you got me. >> unsecured server -- with hillary? >> you got me. >> unsecured server.

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breaking news on three fronts. trump, turkey, and the terror in france. joining us is a man who can talk about all three of those and more. lieutenant general michael flynn, author of the book "field of fight." thank you for joining us. so we've been talking about what president obama said earlier regarding nice, the terror, last night, it was brought up that hillary clinton said we should use more diplomacy. sir, what do we need to be doing to fight this war on terror? >> first of all, thanks for having me. and i do love the show that you guys have. to fight this war, one of the primary things that we must do is we have to discredit this ideology and have to get the muslim world, the arab leaders of the muslim world, to stands up and be counted. we have got to ask, you know, demand from them, not ask, but demand from them to actually, you know, say what is happening

inside of their own system, and start to discredit this -- this radical cancerous form inside of the world of islam. we cannot continue to have this sort of activity on the international stage. so there has to be some accountability, and it has to come from the leaders in the middle east, africa, and the central asian republic state. this is a big deal. we cannot have there kind of terrorism around the -- we cannot have this kind of terrorism around the world. >> bring it around the table. >> it's kimberly gill. i've been a long admirer of your background in intelligence and national security. given your background specifically in the intelligence realm, it seems to me that there's much more that we should be doing now to be able to gather information in realtime to be able to thwart these attacks and hunt the people down that want to do us harm. >> yeah, the president came out and said we're going to share more information, we're going give them resources.

you mean we haven't been doing that? come on. you know, i mean, we have to figure out new ways to operate in this world that is -- that is moving at a different speed. it's moving at the speed of light. it's complex. we have a broader array of what i would describe as the hybrid types of threat. islamic radicalism is one of them. it is -- this is a major threat at our door right now. we are going to see these types of attacks continue. so it's beyond just intelligence sharing. this is -- this is, you know, having the willingness and determination to develop an international strategy that goes out to these guys. the number-one things that we have to do is we have to discredit the doctrine, this radical islamic doctrine that exis exists, but we have to make new demands on what i call is a new 21st century alliance. that's where the arab world comes in. these individuals that run the

countries, the kings, prime ministers, and presidents is to be -- have to stand up and be counted. >> i have so many questions, but i'm going pick one. the choice that was made in nice was a patriotic event. i wonder if that speaks to the problems with assimilation in the sense that he knew no true believers would get hurt when you get to that event. >> that's a hard one. but i will tell you that it -- the kind of event that they were -- that they were having, their version of independence day in france, this is the stuff that this culture, this radical form of islam, they don't like this kind of stuff. i mean, there's three things they want to do. they want to make you their slave, they want to turn you to their way of life. if you're not able to perform as a slave or they can't turn you to their way of life, you're

going to die. this is a sick -- a success system. it has to be -- it's going to come with fighting but also with serious soul searching on the part of these countries where this exists. >> we don't have a lot of time. dana? >> general, i know that you write about this in your peculiar. in terms of president obama, in terms of the pressure he might be under now, who is he hearing from? i know he wasn't hearing from you. if the 82nd airborne is going to deploy in december, is there going to be a show of force? is there something new happening? will rules of engagement change if pressure is brought to bear from the military on the white house? >> yeah. i hope he's listening to general joe dunford. i'm a fan of his as chairman of the joint chiefs. i will tell you that you guys are also watching the unfolding of this military coup

potentially in turkey. this is not a small issue. i literally five minutes ago got a note from a turkish friend in turkey, and they are highly concerned. i mean, so -- and i know i don't have time to talk about that. there's so much complexity, and i'm afraid the president doesn't have the really big strategic thinkers that we need right now. and we really desperately need them. he doesn't have them. i personally don't think that he's getting the advice that he needs, that is -- that this is now a time for tough diplomacy. this is a time for big demands of the united states to put on. >> we'll leave it there. we appreciate your time tonight, sir. >> thanks for having me on. you have a great show. >> thank you. >> thank you very much. >> thank you. >> all right. we'll be right back.

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the news has been so overwhelm and today no exception. we have an ongoing coup in turkey. we're still catching up with what took place in france and of course donald trump has selected mike pence governor of indiana as running mate. the one story that we all know about, pol tibbs aitics and gov pence. greg, mike pence describes himself as rush limbaugh on decaf. is that good? >> i think so. i think it has a lot to do with -- i think donald trump is more of a secular candidate, and i think that he's -- this is a choice to kind of like fill that religiosity, that part of him. it's kind of like he's his father mow kayy. >> where they differ and a lot of the news media now suddenly focusing heavily on pence, most people don't know who he is, says he disagrees on trump with the indiana judge. remember he said he's mexican,

can't be be fair. second, he disagrees on the ban on muslims. third, he endorsed ted cruz during the primariesnd fourth he's for free trade. >> right. so not unusual that there would be some differences between people, one, but also between vice presidential candidate and a president. and trump and pence must have figured out a way to at least have a rapport enough to they could come to an understanding and pence will probably have to eat some words and trump will probably have to swallow some he would like to say as this marriage is introduced to america. >> overnight, there were reports that trump might have changed his mind. >> i didn't hear about that. very quickly we heard hillary clinton using the same words that president obama said. we need more diplomacy. she's going to be the third term president obama. >> we'll take a break right now. stay wuss. "the five" will be right back.

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welcome back to "the five." kimberly, your thoughts? >> indeed, just when you see all the confluence of events, what's happening in turkey with an overthrow under way, the terror attacks that have just been happening over the course of the past month, it just gives you real pause to consider security should be important and leadership in that direction is much needed. >> we have a minute left before we have to go. i just saw right before we left that erdogan, the president of turkey, who is out of the country, is seeking asylum in germa

germany, which is pretty interesting. >> amazing. >> it was just a few weeks ago that germany passed a law saying it was illegal to insult president erdogan. >> what could happen next, an asteroid? this is the worst year i think in my memory in terms of horrifying news and just instabili instability. >> now we have the rnc convention to go to. eric, are you looking forward to it? ff it's going to be great. a lot to talk about. we won't is a shortage of things to talk about. >> it's been a busy day for news, an important time for our country and the world. that is why this election is so mourn. in a few moments, we are heading to the republican convention on our bus tour. we've been telling but. we hope to talk to you along the way. you can follow us on facebook right now to watch as we embark on this road trip. facebook.com/the five fnc. thank you for joining us tonight. see you sunday for a special edition of "the five" live from cleveland. see you then. >> i can't wait.

this is a fox news alert. i'm bret bare coming to you tonight from cleveland site of next week's republican national convention. we are following a trio of breaking news stories right now with huge implications worldwide. for the second night if a row, we begin with a major event happening overseas. illustrating just how dangerous the world is becoming. a military coup is said to be under way in turkey. this is important because turkey is a member of nato and a major eastern european ally for the u.s., a change in power there would have global ramifications. and while the turkish military has just read ata