>> who thought that was going to happen. >> we've seen the fences being constructed. the cordening around, the convention center. security will be tight. we'll be live with the craziness as it comes together. >> bye, everybody, can't wait to see you. this is a fox news channel special election presentation. convention countdown. now, stuart varney. >> good morning, everyone, you are looking live at sixth avenue in new york city. just a few blocks away in one hour donald trump and his vice presidential pick, indiana governor mike pence are set to appear together. this is a highly anticipated press conference. it comes as the republicans gear up for their convention in cleveland. questions remain after a coup in turkey fails.

hundreds dead, thousands of soldiers detained. the coup put down. president erdogan holds on to power. isis claiming responsibility for the deadly massacre by an islamist terrorist in nice, france. did he have help? welcome, everyone. i'm stuart varney in for neil cavuto. lots of breaking news this hour. first to john roberts at the hilton hotel in new york city where team trump is set to appear. john? >> good morning to you. the first time we've seen them together since wednesday. when donald trump had some meetings at the governor's mansion as he was making the final decision as to whether to have michael pence as his running mate. tweeting that from the very get-go, pence has been his number one choice. we know in the hours before the announcement was made, pence had to tell some people what was up. those people started leaking, we believe it was those people. donald trump was concerned about that thinking hey, wait a minute, do we have the right guy

here? everything worked out in the end. this was not a natural alliance. mike pence was never a huge supporter of donald trump. in the indiana primary he got behind ted cruz. ever since then it appears that mike pence is firmly behind trump. listen to what he told sean hannity last night. >> first off, he's the people's choice and i believe in the collective wisdom of the american people. donald trump understands the anxiety and the aspiration of the american people like, like no leader since reagan. he's given voice to that. and people have rallied around him and i believe will continue to rally around him. >> in recent hours, governor pence has shown some shall we say uncharacteristic mallability on some of the issues he holds close to his heart. he was a big proponent of the trans-pacific partnership. donald trump said he would rescind that agreement on day one of his presidency. pence says maybe we have to look at renegotiating some of those trade deals. >> donald trump's proposed

muslim ban offensive and unconstitutional. now seems to be changing his mind about that as well. listen to what he told sean hannity last night. >> our hearts go out to the families of the fallen in the latest horrific terrorist attack. >> i am very supportive of donald trump's call to temporarily suspend immigration from countries where terrorists influence and impact represents a threat to the united states. >> so clearly in the last 48 hours there are more on the same page than they were in the months preceding this, stuart. and going forward, i believe that they'll continue to be in the same page. though he i'm sure that mike pence will give donald trump his counsel on issues that are near and dear to the hearts of conservatives. while some conservatives believe he's got a little bit squishy, particularly in the idea of the freedom of religious restoration act in indiana. many conservatives in the

republican party firmly believe in pence and believe he will be a positive influence for them on donald trump going forward. stuart? >> thank you, john, we'll get to that press conference at 11:00 eastern time. now to turkey, where an attempted coup plunged the streets of istanbul and ankara into chaos overnight. hundreds are now dead. thousands of military personnel detained. and now we're just getting word, president obama is convening his national security team to discuss the situation. our john huddy is in istanbul with the latest. john? >> well stuart it was a chaotic situation overnight when the coup started. the contrast between last night and today, behind me is the bosphorus strait and the bridge crossing over it. we're on the european side of turkey in istanbul. the other side is the asian side. well up until even early this morning, stuart there were tanks and apcs, armored personnel

carriers, lining the bridge, it was shut down overnight. and the airports followed. there were protests and gunfire along that bridge and in this area as well. today it's somewhat business back to usual or business as usual as they can be. as -- >> what you're looking at there, i'm afraid we lost the signal from john huddy innist you haven bull. what you're looking at is the government center in ankara, a bomb exploded or there was an explosion nearby. that was part of the backdrop to what was going on yesterday in that coup that was last night. the coup has failed. i want to quickly show you the price of oil. it did trade slightly higher after the attempted coup. no the that much, but it moved up a little bit. remember, turkey is a major oil supply line throughout, supplies

disruption there could have a big impact on oil prices, obviously we'll be watchinging that. to france where three more arrests have been made today in connection with the terror attack in nice. isis now claiming responsibility. to the former commander of the "uss cole" attacked by terrorists in the year 2000. commander, there's a general sense of anxiety and chaos overseas. first i want to deal with turkey. president erdogan has won. the coup has failed. does that serve america's interest? >> i'm not sure that it does. it does in one sense, stuart, in the fact that by keeping a democratically elected government in power, it upholds the tenets that we hold near and dear in the western civilization. by the same token, erdogan has really tilted away from the founding of ataturk in that they should have a very secular,

although islamic nation. he's made it much more islamic, he has tilted clearly there. obviously he has a lot of empathy and sympathy for the terrorists, that he's allowed in and out from isis to enter europe and conduct attacks. but also people that want to join isis, to filter through his border and get there. we have a complicated relationship with the country and especially with president erdogan. >> commander, there's a general sense that the world, if i can put it like that, it spinning out of control, one incident after another. nice, turkey, et cetera. president obama has convened his national security council. how should we respond to what appears to be a spinning out of control world? >> first think we need to do, stuart, is reengage the world in more of a leadership role. clearly, seven and a half years of leading from behind, not being proactive on the world stage across the breadth and depth of issues that have gone on have resulted in the world we

see today. a coup in turkey. isis conducting numerous attacks throughout europe. china disregarding an international arbitration panel. iran continuing to build and test-fire ballistic missiles with an aim toward putting a nuclear warhead on them. north korea threatening the united states in the region. if you go out, i wouldn't say we're spinning out of control, but clearly the united states must reassert themselves in a leadership role, not lead from behind. or we're going to continue to see these problems pop up first regionally and begin to tie together internationally. jeopardizing the world economy, oil prices and everything you can name. >> the president, president obama says never abandon diplomacy. never forget diplomacy. it appears that we're staying in defensive mode when there are many voices calling for a more of a proactive approach, go get 'em. where do you stand on that divide, commander?

i would say that the president in this case is right. the president should be engaged even if you were go to go in and defend it with military power. you should always leave the diplomatic channel open. you should be more aggressive in how you conduct that diplomacy. you can conduct it in a offensive manner. use the tools available, use the economic power that the united states still possesses, use our ability to influence the world press by making sure they understand the truth. and as a last resort, use the military if, and only if necessary, but it must be capable and credible use of that, that we maintain a robust military with the credibility that we will use it, if and when necessary, in a decisive manner to achieve u.s. national security objectives and safeguard our nation as well as our allies. >> thank you very much indeed. that's governor pence leaving his hotel this morning. i believe that is in new york city, getting into his car. he's going to go to the hilton hotel in new york city.

a little bit later on this morning for that press conference. and there's the podium. he'll be standing at the podium with donald trump. first appearance together at 11:00 this morning. a couple of blocks up the road from where we are now. clearly there's an awful lot going on there. just as donald trump picks indiana governor mike pence to be his running mate. they get ready to appear for their first time together as running mates. let's go to rick grinnell on whether this is the right pick when it comes to foreign policy. rick grinnell is the former u.s. spokesman at the united nations. rick? is this the right pick? terms of foreign policy? what do you think? >> first of all, great to see you, thanks for having me. i think it's a great solid pick. governor pence in the house, when he was a congressman served on the foreign affairs committee. he's got a long history of thinking about these issues, he was also the head of the republican study group which

really meant that he was taking time to research and think through these issues. he's got a great record on strong defense issues. he's really always advocated for america to have a strong defense. i think conservatives will be very happy with his record. and then something interesting as governor, in indiana, he really tried to do what, what many governors have failed to do, which is provide jobs for veterans when they came home. he was very successful. i think governor pence not only thinks about the service of our men and women, when they're overseas. and what they need. but also, when they come home. all of the work that he's been doing to make sure they're taken care of. i think it's a solid pick. >> now in the past. donald trump has questioned nato. and our role in nato. and its structure going forward. overnight. we've had a failed coup in nato

member, turkey. do you think that nato and status will come up in the discussion this morning. >> i think that if you look at what's happened in turkey with erdogan over the last several years, no one should be surprised that the secularists inside the military were getting very impatient. there's a long history, the istanbul bombing, i think the nice bombing put the secularists over the edge to say what's happening in turkey over the last several years of our president moving more towards the islamists, have been very concerning. the fact of the matter is, is that with turkey as a member of nato, the united states has watched this slow path of destruction in turkey, the united states has not done much about it. so there is a question to say -- where has nato been in trying to help turkey climb back from their dangerous past of the last

several years, nato has not done a very good job of working with turkey. and nato doesn't work by the way stuart, unless the u.s. leads it. so hillary clinton watched as erdogan went down this path. she watched as erdogan sent the flotilla to challenge of blockade in gaza. there's been a lot of problems here, so i think when trump says we need to rethink nato in the leadership and that nato isn't always working, turkey is case in point number one as to all of the problems that erdogan has that the u.s. and nato have not been putting pressure on turkey where they should have been. >> let's see what they say at the podium at 11:00 this morning, governor pennsylvania and donald trump together. thanks very much indeed. carnage in the streets at a deadly terror attack this time the main weapon was a truck, not a bomb, not a gun, a truck. what does that tell you?

sheriff david clark on that. and donald trump set to showcase his vice presidential pick in less than an hour. a news k will get under way and you will see it live, we are on it.

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>> i think everyone is appalled by that, stuart and no one can quite understand how he could have been so twisted. now as we know, isis has claimed responsibility for this attack, stuart. but it is not clear to what extent mohammed bouhlal who was the driver of that truck, was connected to the organization and to what extent he as the defense mipster here said earlier on today, may have just independently joined the organization or followed their calls to kill as many innocent poem as possible with something like a truck. the interior minister said today in the wake of the people have been taken into custody for questioning. in the wake of that, the interior minister came up with the information that in fact he very quickly radicalized. this presents a whole new challenge for law enforcement here. someone not having to go train

in the middle east to fight, not having to cook up explosives at home or procure weapons, someone using what is at their disposal. in this case a truck to inflict maximum damage. >> amy kellogg right where it happened. that terrorist did use a truck, that was his main weapon. to milwaukee county sheriff david clark, what does that say? he used a truck rather than a gun. what does that say about the push for gun control here, sheriff? >> well not much, stuart. i'm through trying to understand the sick ideology of islamism. instead of trying to understand it, we ought to just try to kill it as an ideology i'm talking about. there's no sense of urgency on the part of the white house to do anything about it once again president obama came out yesterday and started lecturing us about islam and muslims, i'm not including all muslims in this by any stretch of the imagination. however there's no clear

coherent strategy either at the federal or local level to do anything about this, to destroy this ideology. >> sheriff, what, about 40-odd minutes from now, we're going to to go to the joint press conference by donald trump and governor pence. what would you like to hear from them? >> i would like to hear a ronald reagan-type attitude. i would like to have somebody, potentially the next commander-in-chief, and i think donald trump will do that, to stand up and say we're going to kill off the hateful radical islamist ideology. give some steps as to how that can take place. we have to have a sense of urgency. he seems to be the only one. mrs. bill clinton came out the other day in response to france and said we need a measured response to this. we need to move slow. no, we don't need to move slow, we need a general schwarzkopf

type leader. along with a commander-in-chief who has a sense of urgency to understand that the wolf is chewing through the door. the wolf is no longer at the door, he's chewing through the door. and we must kill the wolf in order to keep americans safe. i'm not going to worry about what the rest of the world wants to do and how they want to handle it. all this, the world needs to come together, we need to stand together. islamic state doesn't care about that crap. we sit up here, stuart and we suspect every american traveler at an airport of being a terrorist. we're searching all of their goods, we're searching through their bags, we're feeling them up. we're stripping them down naked. and now, islamic state is attacking before that barrier outside of the airports. it's a very unconventional enemy and we need unconventional creative tactics to kill it. >> sheriff david clark, thank you for joining us this saturday morning. appreciate it, sir, thank you. donald trump, mike pence seven set to appear at the top of the hour for the first time as running mates, we are on it

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. we continue it telegraph to our enemies what we're going to do. as recent as a couple of days ago where the secretary of defense telegraphed that we're going to send another 500-plus soldiers into iraq. why do we tell our enemies what it is we're going to do? we shouldn't. did bin laden tell us that he was going to fly planes into the twin towers and into the pentagon? i mean no. so we have to be a little bit more unpredictable in how we operate. >> well he wasn't chosen as donald trump, by donald trump to be his running mate.

but when general michael flynn speaks, many do listen. this is president obama's former top spy chief saying we will not take isis down until we shut up. rob o'neill is the former navy s.e.a.l. who killed osama bin laden. rob, welcome to the program. the people in france had no warning about what was coming at them. why do we give warning that we're going to do something militarily in the future? >> it seems to me like it's almost a political thing. like we want to prove to the voters that we're doing something about it. but it's dangerous to strategically not just saying what we're going to do, but saying what we're not going to do. we tell them the rules out there. tactics out there. we will bomb there, but we don't do this, dropping leaflets, letting them know, we might be part of isis, it's part of political correctness that's gone mad. >> there's a divide between playing defense, absorbing terror and playing offense, go get 'em.

i presume you're on the side that says go get 'em. >> absolutely. part of the forward defense, being out there as a deterrent, knowing that if someone does something to us or to our nato allies or other allies that we will strike you. >> how would we take it to them, how would you take it to them? >> i've been saying the way to take it to them is to defeat the ideology itself in raqqah, syria. the capital of the cap fayette. they've made the islamic state. they've made it sexy to be part of isis, they're recruiting because they have a place where can you go if you want to be an islamist terrorist. >> donald trump who is going to appear a half hour from now with governor pence in new york city, there's the podium, they may address this issue. donald trump has said he would wipe out isis. i believe he said he would go after raqqah. >> he said he would go after raqqah. >> do you approve of carpet-bombing mechanism? >> no, i'm saying american-led

boots on the ground. we can do it with marine expeditionary unit or hopefully get some troops in through turkey. obviously that's turned into a mess because the foreign policy now is basically anything goes. i would say with the marine corps, gets some boots on the ground there will be door-to-door fighting, it will be dangerous and there will be some collateral damage. >> does america have the stomach for that? i didn't mean it like that, but does america get behind that? >> i would hope so. i'm not sure, how many of the attacks do we need to see, with children being run over because they're watching fireworks, this is part of the jihad. how many orlando does we need to see? how many days do we need to see people dead under a christmas tree in san bernardino because of isis-inspired attacks. these are acts of war on the west. >> you've fought them face to face, were you impressed?

>> they're only good when they have someone's hands behind their back and they decapitate them. when you get there and fight them, they put on burhkas and hide behind women. they pretend to be something they're not, they throw down their guns and run away. >> you're the man who shot osama bin laden. what do you want to hear from donald trump and mike pence when they go up a half hour from now and tell the world what we're going to do. >> we're at war. whether or not we're at war with them, they're at war with us. they're going to continue to do this. look at how many attacks there have been in nato countries, in turk were, in paris, brussels, nice, we're at war with them. it's a question of when we acknowledge it. we need to take the fight to them or it's going to go on for years. >> the president said we should build a never-abandon diplomacy. your response? >> how do we not abandon them? we show up at maybe a few of the candlelight vigils and throw a few hash tags around. there comes a time when the r

rubber needs to meet the meet. they don't understand a lot of things about diplomacy, they understand force and we can deliver it. >> rob o'neill, thank you very much. the terror set to be front and center, that's the issue of the opening republican convention. what do these latest developments mean for hillary clinton? on the other side, will mike pence work as a steady hand for donald trump? as we wait for their statements, bret baier will join us live from cleveland, he's next.

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gor good morning. this has been an interesting ride to get to to this point. donald trump with this tweet this morning saying look forward to introducing governor mike pence who has done a spectacular job in great state of indiana. my first choice from the start. obviously there's a lot of reporting about how that all was unveiled. and how over the past couple of days, the process worked. today won't be about process. today will be about substance. and about how mike pence affects this ticket. how does he alter this general election run, i think a lot of people are looking at it, stuart, saying this is a solid pick. someone who shores up conservatives, but is also a different tone and tenor than donald trump and reince priebus, the rnc chairman said this is the pivot everybody has been waiting for, this is the turn to the general election by donald trump by making this pivot. he is signaling that he is serious about winning over not

only republicans, but independents to win the election. >> but they will have to get over some stumbling blocks, like the differences in the past over social issues for example, and the issue of trade. they've got to get around previous disagreements. they're got to try to do that at least. >> that's exactly right. and listen, mike pence for a long time has been a big free trader. he was pro nafta. very behind tpp. the trans-pacific partnership. i've talked to a number of people and they've said this shows to lawmakers on capitol hill that donald trump is not this rigid idealogue that he's about making deals, negotiating and the fact that he can pick somebody who was so free trade and an advocate of nafta suggests that he is thinking big picture, the ability to get things across the finish line. it's not that he's against trade, it's against, they say,

bad trade deals, and they want to make that distinguishing fact. i do think there are other issues. and you heard it on sean hannity's show last night in this interview. where pence was pressed about whey said about the temporary muslim ban. thatter going to have to work that out in the first few days. >> i think it will be a fascinating contrast if styles between a true presidential press conference and any time donald trump gets in front of the media. there's a radical difference between the two. that should be in evidence today, i think, bret. >> yeah. and you know it's going to be also interesting just to see the two styles of the two men. i mean just on stage together. we saw that the other day in indiana. in the campaigning. you know, pence tries to step it up and speaks loud and forceful. but it's not like donald trump. so i think that the contrast in styles will be interesting to watch. >> a balanced ticket is what they're trying to create there. but i see the room filling up with journalists. i can't imagine if they shout questions, that donald trump

will refuse to answer them. i can't imagine that i think we're going to get some q&a today. >> bet you're right. he's done that before. this may be, stuart, a scripted rollout. something that they want to control the message. we're in a time, obviously after the nice attack and the attempted coup in turkey, it's a dangerous time. i think they're going to want to project some seriousness ahead of arriving here in cleveland for the official convention start on monday. >> bret baier, we appreciate you being with us now. bret baier. one last quick question if i may, if i may, we've been dealing with two extraordinary events, the terror attack in nice and now the failed coup in turkey. chaos and anxiety overseas, do you think that's going to be front and center in the joint appearance today, pence and trump? >> i don't know if it's going to get a specific mention. but i bet in the broad sense of

things, you're going to get a mention about the dangerous world in which we live. i doubt that they're going to get into the weeds of a failed coup in turkey or this attack by the terrorists in nice. but i do think that the first day of this convention, is how to make america safe again. and there will be a different tone and tenor launching into that as well. >> i have to get that in, bret, because the news cycle has been so extraordinary these days. now the indiana governor is a devout christian. will that help trump pick up crucial evangelical votes? with us now pastor mark burns who will be speaking at the republican convention. the evangelicals didn't turn out in solid number force mitt romney. will they turn out for donald trump? because of mike pence? >> thanks for having me on.

i think already donald trump has proven that he has captured the heart of the evangelicals across this country. the assembling of the executive evangelical advisory board. which i am an member of. dr. james dobson, the list goes on and on. dr. david jeremiah. it is proven that he has captured already the heart of evangelicals across this country. now what governor pence coming on board, who is without question a devout christian and a devout conservative. this is the final missing piece, stuart to awe nighting the republican party and being ready to defeat hillary clinton in november. >> it a vigorous enthusiastic support from evangelicals? >> without question. this is, you will see come at the convention, there is a rallying cry of evangelicals and christians across this country

who is now rallying behind the one candidate that has proclaimed from day one, christianity is under attack. our religious liberties are under attack. and we need to rally behind this candidate, donald trump and now with governor pence it just solidifies his position as the christian candidate. as the conservative candidate that's going to fight for our christian rights. hillary clinton is our only option and we have already seen under the presidency of barack obama, how they treat religious liberties and christians and now hillary clinton would be a third term of barack obama. governor pence is bringing the party together and bringing evangelicals together. >> what do you make of the presence of black lives matter activists who will be at the convention? what do you make of the new black panther party, which says it will appear with its members armed with guns. what do you make of all of this?

>> well, this is not the vision of dr. martin luther king jr. when he marched, when he fought, when he died, when he declared there was a dream for america. this is not at all the vision that dr. king and those who fought in the civil rights movement in the '50s and '60s fought and died and sacrificed so that we don't have black america. but we as blacks be americans. be accepted as americans. it is divisive, it is, it is -- it will not a good outcome will not take place at the new black panther party movement. the black lives matter movement. you can protest, but do it peacefully. dr. king understood that. gandhi understood that. right now, the black panther, new black panther party and the black lives matter movement, it is creating a more divisive rhetoric. that is pitting the whites against blacks. hispanics against whites and

blacks. this is the divisive tone that has been led under barack obama and now will be hillary clinton. that's keeping us focusing on the colors that divide us, not the colors that unite us. this is exactly what isis is looking for. a clink in our chain so they can attack us while we're fighting each other. it needs to be sent with love. >> pastor mark burns, thanks for being with us, we appreciate >> as donald trump and governor mike pence get ready to roll at the top of the hour, the cast of "the five" rolling on their way to cleveland. they join us from the bus in a moment.

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hotel in new york where governor pence and donald trump will appear together in a few minutes from now. on the left-hand side of your screen, the outside of trump tower on fifth avenue new york city. we understand that earlier this morning, governor pence got into his car and went to trump tower first, he's there now. the two of them will appear together. walkout side and then they'll get into what looks like a large motorcade, make their progress to the hilton hotel where they will get before that podium. this is the great build-up. this is the great movement towards the first joint appearance. everyone from senator marco rubio to house speaker paul ryan has been tweeting their support of the, of mr. trump picking governor pence. is this the ticket that will indeed unite the republican party. the former rnc chair and mississippi governor haley barbour. is tht team that gets the

government together? >> mike pence is popular in our party. he's wednesday knoll, a very respe respected. -- well known. he's a religious conservative. but i think that clinton effort in the wake of this choice to try to make it into some kind of ogre and, i think will be a total flop. when people get to know mike pence, they're going to see is he an affable, pleasant, good to everybody, whether they agree with him or not. he's a first-class running mate. and will be a first-class vice president and president if that ever had to happen. >> will it be an enthusiastic and united republican party behind trump/pence? i'm looking for enthusiasm here. not just acceptance of a balanced ticket. but enthusiasm. is it there? >> well i think that it's a balanced ticket in the sense that pence is a religious conservative and much more

involved and trusted by that group. but there's going to be enthusiasm. i can tell you that. and it will be generated by trump and pence and frankly, the enthusiasm among republicans will be generated by hillary clinton and barack obama this country can't stand a third term of what we've had for the last eight years. >> what we're seeing on your screens at the moment. you're looking at the outside, the exterior of trump tower in new york city. that is fifth avenue. there's a large crowd has gathered. there's a whole fleet of black suvs. momentarily donald trump and governor pence will emerge from trump tower, they'll jump in that motorcade and go a very short distance to the hilton hotel on sixth avenue in new york city. and then they will make their first joint appearance. a large number of press people has assembled right in front of that podium. they want to go and ask questions, whether they'll get the chance or not is another story. they will be waiting for the

trump/pence ticket to make its first appearance. governor haley, governor pence is a very conservative guy. is he much more conservative than donald trump? well on certain issues. he is a religious conservative. while he doesn't wear that on his sleeve, everybody understands it. he's got conviction. he make made a great record in the house. it's a successful governor who has dealt with the indiana so that indiana probably has the best economy of any of the industrial midwest states. that's going to be an important issue in this election, because the economy under barack obama has been historically weak. median family income is down. we're losing small businesses every year, which generates so many of our jobs. >> governor, i have to -- our viewers are very family with the five, a very popular group of

people who appear on fox news channel at 5:00 p.m. every weekday. they've been traveling to the cleveland convention in a large bus. they're all together, they're all assembled. joining us now, the five, the crew in hershey park. what do you have to tell us? how was that bus ride? >> i tell you, stuart, we're in the sweetest place on earth. the bus ride so far has been like a chocolate slide, it's terrific. >> everything is good. temperature is good, drive was great, no traffic. we can't figure out the music yet but eric will work on that when we get back on the bus. >> fox news on the bus on the election coverage, it's been very good. >> we've been wondering how pence and trump will get together, their somewhat different personalities, a bit like the mix of personalities on the five on that bus.

i trust they'll blend together like you do. >> it's a transition, stuart. i think the trump-pence ticket is all about jobs and the economy. donald trump releases that the number one issue for voters is jobs, the economy, and national security. i think it was a great, great choice. >> dana, do you think this is a balanced ticket that can get the republicans to it enthusiastically? >> maybe for some. i think that pence solidifies some of that evangelical support. donald trump is pretty strong with evangelicals anyway. >> here they are. hold on a second, dana. our viewers can see the two candidates walking out of trump tower. that's on fifth avenue in new york city.

they've been together just for a few minutes in trump tower. they have now exited, gotten into that fleet of back suvs. they'll be making their way over to the hilton hotel in new york city. i just saw donald trump right there behind the suv. a large crowd obviously of secret service agents offering protection. i can hear some cheers from the crowd. if you've been anywhere near fifth avenue in new york recently, you will know that there are all kinds of people outside, waiting for any vision of donald trump. you can see them right there. the camera is a little herky-jerky. what's your last comment, the five? >> this is truly a suspenseful moment. >> donald trump tweeted today that pence was his first choice from the beginning. it's someone that he likes, he trusts, feels a good relationship with. certainly pence has all the respect, like marco rubio, paul

r ryan, enthusiasm from key, important republicans. >> you have to go back and wonder. >> we're expecting entertainment from the two when they appear at the hilton hotel. what you're seeing on the right hand side of your screen is that large motorcade full of secret service people and handlers. they're all leaving trump tower there, there is the police escort. off they go. it's a very short distance. we'll probably see them arrive at the hilton hotel. they will go straight to the podium. there's the podium. you will see that. they're due to start speaking at 11:00, they may be a little delayed, nevertheless that's where they'll be speaking. this is their first joint appearance, the presentation of the ticket to the media and to america. we're expecting an entertaining performance. the room is already filled with people waiting to hear what trump and pence have to say. that will be coming up in just a few moments. the motorcade is in progress.

they're moving towards the hotel room. i don't think there's a lot of expensed here. that's not the point. everybody is waiting for entertainment and to find out exactly how this team will appear together. what will they look like? how will they agree? what will they agree on? what will be the major points that they bring out today? how will they communicate that ticket to the united states? what will they say? stay right there, everyone, because you'll hear from them momentarily. okay. what you're seeing, again, the room full of people. we anticipate the two will be walking onto that stage in a few minutes, because the motorcade is in process. bret baier with me again. bret, what's the first thing they're going to say? i know you don't have insight into this, but how will they appear right off the bat? >> i think they're going to

dwell on the theme and the motto that donald trump has been running on, which is make america great again. i think they're going to focus a lot on the economy, focus a lot on how people feel during these obama years. i think they're going to try to take an optimistic tone. donald trump on the campaign trail does spend a lot of time talking about how things are really dire, not only at home but abroad. but i bet this will be a teleprompter speech at the beginning, and that you're going to hear a lot of optimistic things, how they're going to turn things around. this is i think the pitch they're going to make about getting things done, and not having another third president obama term in the form of hijack. >> if they did turn to the economy, it would be an opportunity to say something

positive. mr. trump wants to be the candidate of growth. that's what he's offering. that's a positive thing. he may well make a big thing of that. john roberts is with me now. he's waiting, i believe, inside that room there, waiting for the candidates to appear on the podium. it should be just a couple of minutes away, john. >> reporter: we're at 54th and sixth, a couple of blocks away. to update on what bret just said, there is no teleprompter here. so donald trump is probably going to have some notes or read off a couple of notes. he doesn't like teleprompters when he's doing these campaign events. when he's doing big policy speeches, he really does have to read from his script because there are so many details there, their speeches are heavily footnoted after the challenges to his first speech about hillary clinton. he like to ad lib, it adds a

sense of spontaneity, and allows him to draw from the crowd, his response to them. mike pence doesn't need a teleprompter, he's been in congress for 12 years, been governor of indiana for four years. he can give a speech off-the-cuff. some thing that pence went a little bit squishy on the religious freedom restoration act after this huge backlash in indiana after he signed it. he made some changes to offer further protections, some conservatives said he's lost the conservative edge that he had. many other conservatives really applauding this, including speaker paul ryan. he said, quote, i can think of no better choice for our vice presidential candidate. we need someone who is steady and secure in his principles, someone who can cut through the noise and make a compelling case for conservativism, mike pence is that man. we don't know how much the two of them, stuart, are going to campaign together. typically when you roll out your vice president, you do three or

four days or in the case of joe biden a full week of events together. mike pence has a campaign event, a welcome home to indiana type of thing. donald trump is going to go out to the convention to watch milania's speech. the two of them don't really have any campaign events together before convention, so it's a little unusual from that at some point, stuart. >> bret baier is still with us. john just informed us there is no teleprompter set up in the ballroom at the hilton hotel, so i guess mr. trump is going to speak ad lib. that's what people want, isn't it, that's when he's at his most entertaining, correct? >> reporter: it is indeed. i think my point is that i think there will be some kind of scripted or at least bullet point introduction of mike pence. i don't think this is going to be a free flow deal at the very beginning. i'm sure that he's got some

things he wants to say. i agree, stuart, that he is most comfortable in his own words. i asked him the last time i sat down with him just a few days ago about this and whether this was the change. and he says, you know what, i don't really love teleprompters, they're okay. i asked him if he's going to use a teleprompter in his speech here at the convention, and he said yes, unfortunately, i think i am going to use the teleprompter. but you're right, he likes to fire up the crowd. one point that john said, they're probably going to campaign separately. not only campaign separately but they'll fund-raise separately. once you get another person on that ticket, it enables you to be one person campaigning, the other person doing fundraisers. that's really important for both the is campaign. >> okay, bret baier. we have with us steve moore. steve moore has been advising the trump campaign on tax and economic policy. real fast, steve, because we're expecting the candidates to appear at any moment, you've been advising them i think on a growth plan. are we going to hear about that

this morning? >> oh, you better believe it. if you look at the performance of mike pence as governor of the great state of indiana, the hoosier state, as you guys were talking about earlier, no industrial state has had more of a comeback than indiana. and you know why that is, stuart? he has cut taxes, he's got the government spending under control and he's cut regulations. wouldn't that be a wonderful thing if we could do that in washington. it reinforces the trump message that we've got to make this economy grow faster through reagan-style tax cuts and so on. >> you see, steve, that would be very much a positive element to the press conference that's coming up. and i say that because there's some negatives in the news background. obviously the terror attack in france, the failed coup in turkey, those are largely negatives, they're huge problems. they could turn it into a big positive by stressing the growth plan that they've got going forward. have you been in direct touch with donald trump and his campaign on this? >> of course.

and a group of us are helping refine that tax plan. it's going to come out in the next ten days. i will do your show on "fox business" when that plan is officially announced. we're pretty close, stuart. you're going to love it. it's a very reagan-ite plan. i want to make a point about mike pence, i've known him for 20 years and consider him a close friend. it's one thing that is so attractive about him as a pick is, you know, we know donald trump. he's new yorker. you punch him, he's going to counterpunch you. he's a street fighter. that's i think what voters like about him. but pence stylistically is kind of a midwestern genteel guy, a much more calm demeanor. i think it works, i just think they're alter egos to each other, i think it will have a calming influence on voters. and of course any lingering thoughts have conservatives have have been put to rest with the mike pence pick.

>> john roberts is still with us. john, what i found a little unusual about this is that we've had cameras following the two candidates all morning, it's almost, dare i say, a royal progress. we saw mr. pence getting into his black limousine. we saw him going into trump tower. we've seen trump and mike pence emerging from the tower, driving off in the motorcade. i'm pretty sure we're going to see the motorcade arrive at the hilton hotel. we've not seen this before, cameras everywhere. >> reporter: don't forgetting, when you're talking about a royal procession, stuart, all of that is planned months in advance. they've got cameras exactly where they need to be. this is all very much ad libbed. everything is being done freelance, we just have to have the cameras in the right place, nothing is prearranged. this whole rollout has been not of donald trump's fault, but rather chaotic. they wanted to have the presentation yesterday, then

there was that horrible terrorist attack in france. donald trump just thought that he wasn't able to come out with a celebratory political event hours after that. then there was the attempted coup in turkey last night which has added another level of confusion with everything going on on the world stage. they did have a plan yesterday. but they've had to kind of ad lib it, again, no fault of donald trump's. he was up against the hard deadline of noon yesterday for mike pence to sign the papers so that his name did not appear on the ballot in indiana in november for the gubernatorial election. so he had to come out with an announcement yesterday that he did on twitter. i don't want to say he's being criticized, but there are certain elements of the media that are making a point about this being a chaotic rollout. i mean, what was he going to do? he couldn't go out there yesterday and do it in the aftermath of nice. he had to do something looking at this deadline. i think the campaign has done the best they possibly can to roll this out in an orderly

fashion, they've just been beset with problems given the flow of news around the world. >> john, hold on a second. this is of course establishing and setting up the convention which begins next week. let me show our viewers the inside of the convention hall which is going to be anything but chaotic on thursday evening, when donald trump makes his set piece presentation. they're getting it ready. it's almost ready. it will be in final shape by monday morning, of course. and we understand that donald trump, according to bret baier, may be using a teleprompter when he makes his big acceptance speech at the end of the conference. john, you may not see him use the teleprompter today, but he will use it at the convention. and it may well be a little chaotic today when he speaks there without that prompter. and we understand, i think i'm right here, governor pence's aides have just entered the room, so we're expecting to see the two gentlemen at that podium moments from now, is that

correct, john? >> reporter: yeah, i'll let you in on a little secret, they're backstage right now doing a quick chat which we're going to air a little later on today. before they take the stage, that will be something issue to share with you on the fox news channel this afternoon. as always, stuart, these things tend to run a little behind, there's a lot of logistics that have to go into place exactly right for this to work. this is after all a major presidential announcement, and it's an on a saturday when resources around the city are not typically what they are on a weekday. >> bret baier, that's a coup for carl, that's pretty good stuff, bret? >> reporter: of course, stuart, campaign carl is always working it. it's good to hear he's backstage

getting that first interfere. this is going to be an interesting time. we're getting word trump may come this way earlier than his appearance on thursday in cleveland. and there's still a question about campaigning and how this is all going to work with these speeches every day. you know, each day here at the consequential has a theme, i mentioned it earlier. the first day is how to keep america safe, and then it's putting america back to work, bringing america back together is the final night. and you'll have a list of speakers here at the convention that go to that theme. and it's great to hear that carl is backstage getting the inside scoop. >> i'm dying to hear what he says to him. we'll have to wait for that. a couple of more minutes and the candidates will appear on that stage. steve moore, i want to go back to you. it is entirely possible the candidates will try to make this

very positive appearance today, and by that i mean stressing the growth plan. now, you've not finalized it yet, i know you're an adviser to the trump campaign, i know it's not final, but how will these candidates give us in america growth? >> well, we talked a minute ago about the tax plan. although it hasn't been finalized, we're going to cut tax rates as low as they've been since ronald reagan was in office. >> whoa. >> hold on a second, steve. i remember when ronald reagan first cut taxes, the top rate of federal income tax went all the way down to below 30%. >> that's right. >> you propose to do that again? >> we're going to try to get as close to that as we can. obama has raised the rates so high, they're well over 40% right now. we're going to get them down. the other thing we're going to do, stuart, which is more to the point, this is also going to be a tax cut really aimed at the middle class. every time i've talked to donald trump about this, he keeps making this point. we've got to make sure for

working class americans they're going to get a meaningful tax cut because they're so financially strained when they're paying their bills at the kitchen table. it's going to be about 1500 to $2,000 often the taxes for the middle class. that is a big deal. >> how do you do that? how do you do that? >> pardon me? >> how do you get 1500 to $2,000 per middle class taxpayer cut from their tax level, how do you do that? >> americans are overtaxed. we're going to cut their tax rates. we're going to provide a new deduction for kids so if you're a family with three or four kids, you'll get a tax cut. we think child rearing is one of the most important things for our society and the economy. the other thing we'll really talk a lot about is the energy policy. you know, we could become the world leader in energy production, oil and gas and coal around the world. mike pence knows that. he's from a coal state in indiana. trump has talked a lot about that. we think we can add another

percentage point of growth just through a pro energy policy, and i'm not talking about building windmills, i'm talking about oil and gas and coal. there have been tens of thousands of coal miners who have been put out of business under barack obama's policies. we'll put them back on the job and out of the unemployment lines. >> do you think the two candidates are going overboard to be positive today, to put america on the right path going forward, looking positive, saying positive things about the economy, and our stamps overseas, will they try to turn the negatives from overseas into a positive for the united states? presumably that's the objective today. >> i think you're right, stuart, it's a positive projection, an optimistic look toward the future. both men reference ronald reagan and the shining city on the hill. i think you will, though, hear

some going after hillary clinton and some things and reasons they believe that she should not be the next commander in chief. that is red meat for the crowd, not only in this room but around the country, as they get ready to make this pitch. >> well, they are getting ready to make the pitch. we're seeing a couple of aides move toward the podium. it was due to kick off at 11:00 sharp. this is behind the scenes now, now we're looking behind the scenes. can i see carl cameron there? i believe i can, screen right is carl cameron. he has held an interview with i believe donald trump and/or governor pence on the right hand side over there. this is going to be aired later, that interview. did i hear john roberts, did you want to get into this? john, what have you got? >> reporter: i don't know what's going on backstage because we're

out front here. carl is campaign carl, as you said, if there is something to get, carl will get it. >> i think i just picked up some words there from donald trump. i think i did, i'm not sure about that. but what you're looking at is backstage. oh, it was bret baier. bret, i do apologize. did i mistake you for donald trump? i think i did. >> reporter: sometimes i sound like john roberts. that's paul man afford talking to the blonde lady there to the left side of carl. and in the background there, paul manafort is the campaign chairman. by the way, he's going to be on "fox news sunday" tomorrow with chris wallace, a little plug for our friend. and this is behind the scenes. carl is waiting for this moment where the two, the presumptive nominee and his vp choice will walk onto the stage there. and there he is. >> that's how you work it, isn't

it? that's carl cameron right in the middle of the screen there. the blue curtain in the background hides governor pence and donald trump. they are behind that curtain. carl cameron, campaign carl, is waiting. he's not going to ambush them. he's trying to get a brief interview as they emerge from that blue curtain and make their way toward the stage. this is how it's done, ladies and gentlemen, this is how you create a fine political broadcast. i see movement. they're about to emerge. carl is lurking. carl is on the right hand side of your screen. we're waiting for the candidates to emerge. the people are making way. the aides are emerging from behind that blue curtain. and carl is waiting anxiously. he's got a smile on his face, he knows what he's up to. more aides emerging.

the two candidates are conferring behind the blue curtain, last minute details on what exactly they're going to say. i presume they know that carl is waiting for them. they're making last minute adjustments to how they're going to approach the podium in front of all those people. and there is donald trump. let's see what carl does. he's moving away. here we go. >> thank you, everybody. great honor. [ cheers and applause ] great honor. thank you. this is a wonderful day. >> trump! trump! trump! >> on a saturday morning, yet. isn't that nice? thank you all. and we're going to have an incredible convention. it's really going well. we're going to have an

incredible convention. and we're going to get things solved and we're going to do lots of wonderful things for our country, most importantly. so i'm here today to introduce the man who will be my partner in this campaign and the white house, to fix our rigged system. we are in a rigged, rigged system. and to make america safe again and to make america great again. [ applause ] i want to also address the islamic terror attack in france. we've witnessed horror beyond belief. no matter where you look. and now it's happening more and more. and it's never going to stop. we need new leadership. we need new thinking. we need strength. we need in our country law and order. and if i'm elected president,

that will happen. [ applause ] i want to express our unyielding support for the people of france. and we mourn their loss as a nation. and as far as turkey is concerned, so many friends in turkey, great people, amazing people. we wish them well. it looks like they're resolving the difficulty, but we wish them well. a lot of anguish last night. as hopefully the next president of the united states, i want to refer back to what's happened over the years. the middle east today is more unstable than ever before, never been like this. out of control. after four years of clinton, who really led the way and led obama down a horrible path, because i don't even think he could have

made these decisions so besidely, she led him right down a horrible path. he didn't know what he was doing. iraq, syria, all into chaos. and iran is on a path to nuclear weapons. and on top of that, we gave them back $150 billion and we didn't get our hostages until the end. now we're seeing unrest in turkey, a further demonstration of the failures of obama-clinton. every single thing they touched has turned to horrible, horrible death-defying problems. we also need to bring back in this country, because we see what happened, our industry, our manufacturing, our jobs. they've been taken away like we're babies, taken away. and we're going to bring them back. i've found the leader who will

help us deliver a safe society and a prosperous, really prosperous society, for all americans. indiana governor mike pence was my first choice. i've admired the work he's done, especially in the state of indiana. and i'm going to go over some of those accomplishments in just a minute. but i also admire the fact that he fights for the people and he's going to fight for you. he is a solid, solid person. [ applause ] governor pence served indiana with distinction in congress. he rose to leadership and served as the chairman of the entire house republican conference. number one, he' the skills of a highly talented executive, leading the state of

indiana to jobs, growth, and opportunity, in spite of the relentless object ststacles put way and every state's way by the obama administration. it's horrible out there. high taxes and regulations. and it's out of control. mike pence is a man of honor, character, and honest. we know that. hillary clinton is the embodiment of corruption. she's a corrupt person. what she's done with her e-mails, what she's done with so many things, and i see the ads up all the time, the ads, she's totally bought and paid for by wall street, the special interests, the lobbyists, 100%. she's crooked hillary. [ applause ] and i think that while she got

away with murder, in fact i think it might be her greatest accomplishment, escaping the recent scandal and her lies, and the loss of 33,000 e-mails, but it wasn't a loss, she discarded. that in itself is a major crime. other people have been paying tremendous prices for what they've done which is peanuts compared to what happened with hillary clinton. 33,000 e-mails are missing, and that's okay? didn't give them to the fbi? didn't give them to the attorney general? and that's okay? wipes her server clean, that's okay? these are crimes. these are crimes. and how she got away with it, i think i understand it, but i think a lot of people don't. i do believe, while she didn't

pay the price she should have paid, she's going to pay that price when november 8th rolls around. she's going to pay it at the polls. i believe that. [ applause ] on top of everything else, hillary made $21.6 million giving speeches to special interests in a short period of time. she's totally owned by wall street. we believe in americanism. she believes in globalism. and it's not that she believes in it. the people that give her all of this money believe in it. and she'll believe in whatever they want her to believe. believe me, that's it. [ applause ] what a difference between crooked hillary clinton and mike pence. [ applause ] mike pence will never be afraid

to speak the name of our enemy. radical islam. radical islamic terrorism. you saw it the other day with the truck, screaming out the window, you heard what he was screaming out the window. you saw it in san bernardino. you saw it at the world trade center. you saw it in orlando, how horrible was that? you saw it in paris. you see it all over. and hillary is a weak person. we are the law and order candidates. and we're the law and order party. we're going to change things around. there's going to be respect again for law and order. [ applause ] hillary clinton's foreign policy helped launch isis. you know, she's talking, i see

the ads she puts on. if i make one statement, which is fine, she'll take that statement and put it on a totally dishonest ad, because she's got a lot of money, because it's given to her by the lobbyists and by the special interests. she's got a lot of money. but i see the ads on foreign policy. she's talking about donald trump doesn't have foreign policy experience. of course not. i've been a very, very, very successful businessperson. but -- [ applause ] but if you look at my calls, i said don't go into iraq. nobody cared because i was a businesses person. i was a civilian. take the oil. many, many calls i've made, you take a look. i said that in scotland and the uk, that was going to happen. i was the one that predicted it. and everybody said he's wrong, he's wrong. president obama said if it happens, they're going to get to the back of the line, which probably is one of the reasons they lost. of course i consider it a win, i think it was a win for them, actually, because they don't

want to be told what to do, and they don't want to be told that when people pour into the country, they have to take them even if they're not qualified, even if they don't have paperwork, even if they have no idea where they come from. and i said that brexit's going to happen. i said that they are going to break away. and everybody laughed at me. and the odds were at 20%. and then when it happened, she took an ad saying, oh, donald trump said this or that. but i'm the one that said it was going to happen. some of the more fair reporters, about 30% of them, said he was right. i appreciate that. 70% didn't, so that's okay. so mike pence will never be afraid to speak the name of our enemy, so important. now, i think if you look at one of the big reasons that i chose mike, and one of the reasons is party unity, i have to be honest. so many people have said party

unity, because i'm an outsider. i want to be an outsider. i think it's one of the reasons i won in landslides. i won in landslides. this wasn't close. this wasn't close. [ applause ] no, this wasn't close. in the history of the republican party, history, with 17 people running, you have to understand, other people ran against one, two, and three. with 17, we got, i say "we" because i'm the messenger. i'm a messenger. i'm doing a good job, but i'm a messenger. we got almost 14 million votes. that's more than any the other person in the history of the republican party, in the primary system, running for president. [ applause ] think of it. that's more than ronald reagan, who we love. that's more than richard nixon.

it's more than dwight d. eisenhower. he won the second world war, in all fairness, that's pretty good. it's more than the bushes. that's with 17 people. people don't over-say that. that means our message is unbelievable. and i want to thank all of the empl loyal people, i have such loyal people, and they displayed that in cleveland, it's going to be amazing, but they displayed it, it was on display when we had this group of people, many of whom i've known, and i won't say, because for party unity i'll say they're wonderful people, okay, never trump, they said, never trump, never trump, oh, we're going to win. they get crushed. and they got crushed immediately. because people want what we're saying to happen. they're tired of a country that has horrible trade deals, that has no borders, that has taxes that are through the roof, highest taxed nation, just

about, in the world, that has regulations that don't allow you to start a business, and destroy your business if you do start. and by the way, speaking of destroying businesses, we're going to take care of the miners and we're going to take care of the steel workers. we're going to put them back to work. [ applause ] so they're very tired of it. i want to thank all of those people that -- delegates that were on the different committees, because boy, was that something. did we show them something. and unfortunately, the vote was very late. but essentially we're at 112-12. this was the vote that was going to put it onto the floor and we were going to have a big fight. we're not going to have a fight. people agree with what we've -- they want the wall. they want the borders. they want these things to happen. and what we're doing -- [ applause ] and what we're doing that i'm so proud of, and nobody else would even think about doing it, i fought very hard for it, we'll call at it johnson amendment,

where he took away from the evangelicals, a lot of people were surprised a dominated with evangelicale evangelicals. they know i'm going to get the job done. and they're really smart. and i said -- [ applause ] and i said for the evangelicals that we're going to do something -- lyndon johnson was a powerful president. he knew how to get things done. he got bogged down in a war that was a disaster and it destroyed them. he was a powerful president. we call at it johnson amendment, where you are just absolutely shunned if you're evangelical and you want to talk religion,

you lose your tax exempt status. we put into the platform, we're going to get rid of that horrible johnson amendment. and we're going to let evangelicals, we're going to let christians and jews and people of religion talk without being afraid to talk. i saw this, i had so many great leaders, so many times up to my office. the top, the absolute top evangelical leaders, christian leaders, jewish leaders. believe it or not, some muslim leaders. people are going to be surprised to hear that. i had the top leaders up to my office. and i said, why is it that you're so powerful as an individual, and yet when you get out there, you're sort of timid? and they didn't know how to answer the question. and it took two or three meetings before i figured it out. one great, great gentleman that everybody knows but whose name i will not reveal said, mr. trump,

we live in fear in our churches and our sevenynagogues, we live fear that we're going to lose our tax exempt status if we say anything that's even slightly political. and i looked out the window. i was in trump tower. and i pointed to people walking down the street. i said, well, they have the right to speak, but you don't. that means they're more powerful than you are. we have to do something about it. how did it start? how did it start? [ applause ] and they said it started because of lyndon johnson. and he actually had a problem in texas with a certain religious leader. and he did this. and he got it done. and we're going to undo it, so that religious leaders in this country and those unbelievable people, and not because they backed me in such large numbers, but so that religion can again have a voice. because religion's voice has been taken away. and we're going to change that, okay? all right.

[ applause ] back to mike pence. so one of the primary reasons i chose mike was i looked at indiana. and i won indiana big. remember, indiana was going to be the firewall. that's where trump was going down. they agreed i would win network, i would win pennsylvania, i would win all these places. but indiana was going to be the firewall. so i did the got to study india. and i got to study new york and other places and i saw how nafta, signed by bill clinton, has drained our manufacturing jobs, just drained us like we've never been drained before. nafta, again, signed by bill clinton. nafta is the worst economic deal in the history of our country. manufacturing down in some states 55, 60%. it's a horror show. moving to mexico. moving to other places. i have a friend who is a great

builder. what he builds is plants. he doesn't build buildings. he builds plants. the biggest in the world, from what i hear. i said, how is business? i was with him the other day. how's business? he goes, unbelievable. i said, really, wow, i'm surprised, why is it unbelieve? because i think of him as building in this country. he said, donald trump, what we're doing in mexico you won't believe. i said, what do you mean? he said, we're building plants in mexico the likes of which we've never seen. i said, what about this country? not much. not much. that's the expression. he said exactly that. not much. i said, but mexico? he said, you've never seen anything like it. it's incredible. folks, that's going to stop. we're going to go reverse it. we're going to bring our jobs back to this country. we can't be the stupid people anymore. [ applause ] okay? and he was better than a

pollster. he's better than a consultant. i say how are we doing and you get a big report that costs you millions of dollars. it doesn't cost me millions, me, i give them $10,000, okay? it costs other people millions. it costs other campaignis millions, every time they get a report it costs millions. but a guy like this is better than any guy you can hire to do a report. he didn't stay it from the at some point that he's upset about it. just fact. how we doing? unbelievable in mexico. in fact he actually said, i've never, never seen anything like it. if you look, ford is building massive plants there instead of michigan. we want them to build them in michigan. they're going to build them in michigan. and you know that i know how to do that. so easy. so easy. but they're not going to take advantage of us without retribution. there are consequences when you fire thousands of people and move to another country and then

think you're going to make your product and sell it in here. there are consequences. and those consequences are going to keep companies in our country. it's very simple. and everybody here knows what the consequences are. but i won't say that because i'm much more interested right now in mike. indiana's unemployment rate -- and this is the primary reason i wanted mike, other than he looks very good, other than he's got an incredible family, incredible wife and family. karen is amazing. [ applause ] incredible family. highly respected. expected to go for another four years. he would have won i think very easily in indiana. indiana, their unemployment rate has fallen. when he started, 8.4%, when he took over, to less than 5% in may of 2016. since january of 2013, indiana's

labor force has increased by more than 186,000 jobs. you have to understand, i've gone around to all these states, i've gone to all of them. and every time i have statisticians. i say, give me the stats on the state. it's always bad. down, down, down. down 40%, 50%, 60% in some cases. here's somebody where it's gone up. private sector job growth is up by more than 147,000 jobs since 2013. that's like very unusual. governor pence balanced the budget. can you imagine a balanced budget? our budget's so out of whack in this country, we don't know what we're doing. we're going to owe $21 trillion. they don't know what that means. he balanced the budget, produced a surplus, and maintains a $2

billion reserve fund in the state of indiana. it's also rated triple a, their bonds are rated triple a. very few states have that. triple a. the best. that's as good as you can get, whether you're a company, a state, triple a. indiana was recently recognized by "chief executive" magazine as the number one state in the midwest for business. number one. and it's not even close. there are probably 34,000 fewer hoosiers on unemployment insurance now than there were when mike pence took office. so you have fewer hoosiers, fewer people from indiana. besides that, bobby knight, my friend, who really did help me, if you want a reference, bobby knight in indiana, we love bobby knight. but he agrees with everything i'm saying. he loves the governor. indiana has the second lowest

unemployment rate in the nation for veterans where nobody is he veterans. the veterans like the veterans have been left behind. [ applause ] if you remember a few months ago, hillary clinton said they're doing much better, the va is much better, they're doing a much better job than people are giving them credit for. people are dying, waiting for doctors. people can't even see a doctor. it's a scandal. take a look at what's happening with the va in arizona. take a look at what's happening, just the veterans administration hospitals. it's a scandal. it's corrupt. it's incompetent. it's a scandal. and hillary clinton thought it was just fine. and boy, am i going to win big with the veterans. we know that for a fact. [ applause ] so it's now 2.4% for veterans.

in 2013, when mike pence took office, the rate for veterans was 6.7. it was 31st in the nation, one of the bad ones. and now it's almost the best. got 'em jobs. got 'em jobs. indianapolis is ranked second in top ten metro areas for young college graduates. that's a great thing. they're going to stay there. that's a great thing. and mike worked hard on that. he was telling me, that was not easy. under governor pence's leadership, indiana enacted the largest k-12 education funding increase in the state's history. so you're balancing budgets and yet you're giving more money to education. isn't that a great thing? [ applause ] indiana has just about the largest school choice program in america. school choice is where it's at, folks. you want to get your schools better, you got to get rid of common core fast.

governor pence enacted the largest income tax cut in the state's history. think of that. we're cutting taxes and balancing budgets. and along with corporate tax reform, just about number one in the country. cnbc ranked indiana first in the nation for its infrastructure. so with all of these cuts and all of these balancing budgets, we're spending more money on education, and the infrastructure is kept up. that had so much -- look. as a builder, nobody's in the history of this country, has ever known as much about infrastructure as donald trump, build infrastructure. do i know how to build a wall? do i know how to build infrastructure? it's very interesting, we're building -- we're building -- i won the -- which is pretty amazing in the obama administration, but i won the right to have the old post office building on pennsylvania

avenue right near the white house. and it's amazing, probably best location, one of the most sought-after projects in the history of the gsa, general services. and i really like what's happened. we're going to have an opening very soon. ivanka and eric and don did a fantastic job on it. i thought the other day, i was going over the numbers, we were under budget and about a year, actually more than a year. but we're a year ahead of schedule. and we're under budget substantially. and the quality of the work is even better than we originally were going to do. [ applause ] and when i explained to a government representative that we're under budget and ahead of schedule, they almost fell off, because they've never heard those words before, they've never heard them. so when i see what happened to indiana, which was having tremendous problems, when i see

what happened to indiana under mike's work, also his predecessor is a great job, by the way, great job, who is now at duke, who is now at perdue, when i see what happened with respect to the numbers, the state, and everything else, that to me was probably the single most important point. because it's something that hasn't happened, almost has not happened in this whole country. the turnaround and the strength of indiana has been incredible. and i learned that when i campaigned there. and i learned that when i won that state in a landslide. and i learned that when governor pence, under tremendous pressure from establishment people, endorsed somebody else. but it was more of an endorsement for me, if you remember. he talked about trump. then he talked about ted, who

sis a good guy, by the way, who will be speaking at the convention, he spoke about ted, trump, then went back to ted. i said, who did he endorse? even though he's under pressure, because i'm so outside of the establishment, it was the single greatest non-endorsement i've ever had in my life, okay? i will say that. [ applause ] so with that, i would like to introduce a man who i truly believe will be outstanding in every way and will be the next vice president of the united states, governor mike pence. thank you, thank you, everybody. thank you. [ cheers and applause ]

>> on behalf of my family here, looking on, would you join me in thanking donald trump, milania, and his entire family for the sacrifices that they are making to make america great again. [ cheers and applause ] and i thank donald trump for the confidence you've placed in us. and i accept your invitation to run and serve as vice president of the united states of america. [ applause ] you know, i come to this moment deeply humbled but with a grateful heart, grateful to god for his amazing grace. grateful to my wonderful wife karen and our three incredible

kids, michael, charlotte, and audrey. and grateful to this builder, this fighter, this patriotic american who has set aside a legendary career in business to build a stronger america, donald j. trump. [ applause ] and let me say, having had the privilege to spend time with this man and his family out of the limelight, i know what all of america will soon know even better. these are good people. donald trump is a good man. and he will make a great president of the united states of america. [ applause ] donald trump understands the frustrations and the hopes of the american people like no leader since ronald reagan. the american people are tired.

we're tired of being told. we're tired of being told that this is as good as it gets. we're tired of having politicians in both parties in washington, d.c. tell us we'll get to those problems tomorrow. and as ronald reagan said, we're tired of being told that a little intellectual elite in a far distant capital can plan our lives better for us than we can plan them for ourselves. donald trump gets it. and he understands the american people. [ applause ] i truly am deeply humbled to be at his side today. and when i got this call last wednesday, i could only think of that ancient question. who am i, oh, lord, and who is my family that you have brought us this far? so let me try and answer that question for a few minutes.

people who know me well know i'm a pretty basic guy. i'm a christian, a conservative, and a republican in that order. [ applause ] and while i'm currently -- i currently have the privilege of serving the state that i love, i'm really just a small town boy who grew up in southern indiana with a big family and a corn field in the backyard. like donald trump, my grandfather immigrated to this country and in many ways i grew up with a front row seat to the american dream. i watched my mom and dad build everything that matters, a family, a business, and a good name. the heroes of my youth were john f. kennedy and the reverend dr. martin luther king jr. i actually started in politics in the other party. but when i came of age, i was inspired by the ideals and the eloquence of our 40th president, and i became a republican.

the most important thing in my life was that 31 years ago i married the girl of my dreams, karen pence, who will make a great second lady of the united states of america. [ applause ] and while this office is an extraordinary office to which to aspire, the highest role i will ever play is d-a-d. and i'm a proud father of a college student, a graduate turned writer, and a united states marine. [ cheers and applause ] you know, in my career, i ran for congress before the republican revolution led by newt gingrich in 1994. i wasn't successful. by the time i got elected to

washington, d.c., sometimes i felt i was elected after it was over. from almost my first day in congress i found myself battling the big spende erers in both political parties, whether opposing no child left behind, the prescription entitlement, the wall street balanceoilout, fought every single day for fiscal responsibility. after the republicans lost the congress in 2006, i was unanimously elected to serve in leadership. and we fought back against the nancy pelosi congress. we opposed obamacare. we opposed their tax increases. we opposed their cap and trade. i was part of the team that won the congress back from democrat control in 2010. [ applause ] and all that happened before i went back home again to indiana. but i want to say i answered

this call for two reasons. first, because i know from firsthand experience that strong republican leadership can bring about real change just like we've seen in the hoosier state. and secondly, because hillary clinton must never become president of the united states of america. [ applause ] now, on the first point, i know what i'm talking about. you know, in indiana we prove every day, you can build a growing economy on balanced budgets, low taxes, even while making record investments in education, roads, and health care. we like to say indiana is a state that works.

and it does. [ applause ] indiana works because republican principles work every time you put them into practice. today we have a $2 billion surplus and the highest credit rating in the nation. and work. since i became governor, hoosier businesses large and small have created nearly 150,000 net new jobs and we have more hoosiers going to work than ever before than ever before in history in the great state of indiana. that's what republican leadership gets you. and let me say from my heart that's what the no nonsense leadership of donald j. trump will bring to washington, d.c. elections are about choices. elections are about choices. and i also joined this ticket because the choice could not be more clear, the stakes could not

be higher. americans can choose a loader who will fight to make america safe and prosperous again and bring real change, or we can elect someone who literally personifies the failed establishment in washington, d.c. seven and a half years of barack obama and hillary clinton have weakened america's place in the world and have stifled our nation's economy. terrorist attacks at home and abroad, grim and heartbreaking scenes from france just a few short days ago, the attempted coup in turkey, all a test to a world spinning apart. history teaches us that weakness arouses evil. hillary clinton and barack obama's foreign policy of leading from behind, moving red lines, feigning resets with a

resurge of russiaed a the rise of isis is a testament to this truth of history and we must bring a change to america's stand in the world. we cannot have four more years apologizing to our enemies and abandoning our friends. america needs to be strong for the world to be safe. on the world stage, donald trump will lead from strength. he will rebuild the arsenal of democracy, stand with our allies, and hunt down and destroy the enemies of our freedom. and at home -- at at home the choice is just as clear. where donald trump wants to cut taxes, hillary clinton plans to raise taxes. on working families, small businesses, and family farms. where donald trump is committed to repeal obamacare lock, stock,

and barrel, hillary clinton looks at obamacare as a good start and wants to take bernie sanders's packet down to single payers socialized medicine. where donald trump wants all the above and will end the war on coal, hillary clinton actually promised an energy plan that will put coal miners out of work. where donald trump wants to build a wall and temporarily suspend immigration from countries compromised by terrorism, hillary clinton plans to ignore the supreme court, reimpose executive amnesty, and would increase, increase our refugee program by more than 500%. and where donald trump will appoint justices like the late antonin scalia who will uphold our constitution, hillary clinton will appoint supreme

court justices who will legislate from the bench, abandon the sanctity of life, and rewrite our second amendment. to every american who shares our convictions, i say to you, join us. for the sake of our security, for the sake of our prosperity, for the sake of a supreme court that will never turn its back on our god-given liberties, let's come together as a party and a people and a movement to make america great again, and that day begins when donald trump becomes the 45th president of the united states of america. thank you for the honor. thank you for your support. and god bless the united states of america. ♪

the two of them on the stage together now right in front of the podium. will they take questions if they're shouted from the audience? we do not know this at this point. governor pence greeting some of donald trump's children and some of the aides. donald trump is at the podium again. whether he answers shouted questions from the audience, we don't know. but they're cheering as we speak. ♪ okay. they haven't. i think they're about to exit. they'll take the applause from the crowd. it's a standing ovation from the crowd. it does not look like there are any questions. let me wrap up what was said over the last 45, 50 minutes. donald trump opened the proceedings alone at the podium. he did not use a teleprompter.

he appeared to have bullet points written down. for the first half hour it was a long and huge campaign for donald trump. he vigorously attacked hillary clinton, promoted his own policies and then launched into a description of indiana's economy which he said is a great success and then introduced governor pence himself. governor pence then spent 20 minutes about himself. he defined himself as a christian, republican, and and it was in that order. bret baier, it seemed like a good balance of style between the two. what do you say? >> stuart, this is exactly what we've been talking about. this has been two different people, two different tones and tenor of how they're going to

campaign and you just saw it perfectly there. the introduction of mike peps was very long by donald trump, but that is his style, off the cuff. he did make comments about nice, also interesting comments about turkey. we'll come back to that. but he spent a lot of time talking about mike pence and his success in indiana. also interestingly kind of made fun of his new v.p. nominee saying that his endorsement was really an endorsement for trump, it was really the best nonendorsement he's received. pence came on and trump went off but then you have the moment where they're both on stage. i thought it was interesting that really the most important line from mike pence, the one that will unify the republican party was this. hillary clinton must never become president of the united states, and that, i think, is what we're going to see here to unify what is clearly a

fractured party. but that line got the biggest applause in the pence speech. >> so that's the way the two of them unify the party. >> i do. >> it's us, please, not them. that's what that speech was all about. and that, you think, will be the essence to the approach to their election. >> definitely, definitely. listen. it's donald trump who runs the show. it's donald trump who's the front man on policy. he spent time in that opening talking about nafta and how horrible it was. well, the guy he's introducing was a huge proponent of nafta but in the big picture it really doesn't matter because what it is is donald trump running the show. he's showing them mike pence is solid, steady, grounded, conservative, and also says we are the alternative to hillary clinton and a third term for president obama, and that here

in cleveland, i think, is going to sell to even the people who are most skeptical. i should note, stuart, this comes on a day when former florida governor jeb bush writes an op-ed post saying he's against donald trump still to this day. >> bret, bearing in mind what we've seen on stage, who you do think hillary clinton is going to lean toward having seen this ticket emerge today? >> i think it's a great question. i think the conventional wisdom is tim kaine from virginia, senator from virginia, former governor, is still a leading candidate there. but it would be interesting to see. the fact that donald trump chose a social conservative, someone like mike pence, if that alters, shoufr, their calculation of who she's going to pick. she's talked to elizabeth

warren. that seems like that's on the outside of possibilities. but julian castro and others. i think tim kaine is the growing bet and the word is it could come as soon as friday this week but the campaign is not giving a timeline. >> one last one, bret. it seems to me that donald trump has that speaking style, that off-the-cuff delivery that really gripped the crowd. he got them, hadn't he? >> he does. he does. what i wanted to reference about turkey, that off-the-cuff style works a lot of times and fires up a campaign crowd. but when you're talking about something as complex as a military coup in turkey, the military is something the u.s. would prefer to have than president erdogan, it's tricky,