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warren. that seems like that's on the outside of possibilities. but julian castro and others. i think tim kaine is the growing bet and the word is it could come as soon as friday this week but the campaign is not giving a timeline. >> one last one, bret. it seems to me that donald trump has that speaking style, that off-the-cuff delivery that really gripped the crowd. he got them, hadn't he? >> he does. he does. what i wanted to reference about turkey, that off-the-cuff style works a lot of times and fires up a campaign crowd. but when you're talking about something as complex as a military coup in turkey, the military is something the u.s. would prefer to have than president erdogan, it's tricky, and that would provide donald
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trump some issues. but it's how he's campaigned throughout the primary. i think it's going to be a little more structured once he gets to cleveland. >> bret baier, thank you very much for helping me through this and our viewers too. thank you, bret. >> see you soon. steve moore is with he. he offers economic advice to the trump candidacy. it seems to me, steve, a lot was said about indiana's economy and how well it's doing and how that may be a model for the national economy with a trump/penc eticket. do you see the same thing? >> i do. i bet you can guess which state over the last five years we rate as having moved up more than any
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other state. the hoosier state. he's been an incredible governor of indiana and has really turned around the state. one of the things is traditionally, as you know, stuart, where do the democrats beat the republicans in the presidential race. in the industrial american states. this is where i think donald trump and mike pence are going to crack through that blue wall. they're going to win indiana, ohio, michigan, pennsylvania. those are tra digitally states that go democratic. in so many ways, this is a great pick. this might be the first time they've heard from mike pence. he's incredibly likeable and sincere and that's a great, great quality. >> what's been great is indiana.
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he said he's going to bring job backes for steelworkers and the miners. do you think he can do that? >> i do. i do. i really do. >> how would he do that? >> let's talk about taxes for a minute. we have the highest business tax in the world. i hear you talk about this on your show almost every day. it's an abomination that we're putting all of our companies at a huge tax disadvantage. we're going to raise that. we're going to go from being the highest tax country in the world to the lowest. i promise you when we do that, those companies will move back to the united states. >> that is the plan. it was a frequent reference to being reaganesque. it will be reaganesque. that means cuts in the personal tax rates, cuts in business tax rates, cuts in taxes generally across the board, is that the
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plan, steve? >> you've got it. let me add one more thing. when you talk to business leaders, the great men and women running america's companies, they say the regulatory stranglehold of government and washington is the tax burden. why don't we have a moratorium on new regulations. on the first day in office, they could sign 50 consecutive orders. that's a big part of it too. taxes and regulation. >> i read the statements from both donald trump and mike pence, an attempt to put performance on the back burner. do you read it the same way? >> look at what's happened with the economy in the last six months. we've downshifted. now we're down to 1%, 1.5%. that's barely treading water. it was either donald trump or
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mike pence who made this point. the average american, middle class, working class people have not had a pay raise in 15 years. those are people paying their bills at the kitchen table and they're financially stressed out. this economy issue and terrorism, that's what this election is going to be about. if donald trump can talk about those two things, he'll win a big, big election. one other quick thing. i was at a major conservative conference in cleveland yesterday of hundreds of conservative leaders. they were a little bit lukewarm to donald trump, but when it was announced that mike pence was going to be the republican vice-presidential nominee, all the ice melted away. i think they're more unified now. >> all right, steve moore, we'll hear more from you next week.
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thank you very much. ric grenell is with us, a former ambassador for u staigts. in particular donald trump went right after hillary clinton for her performance as secretary of state and right after the idea that we should be defensive in the face of these terror attacks. it was an aggressive donald trump on the foreign policy scheme. that's how i read it. and you? >> yeah. that's exactly the way i read it, stuart. look, i think what bret baier said earlier is exactly the point that's going to unite gop, and that is donald trump's focus, is to focus on hillary clinton. donald trump is focusing on hillary clinton's disastrous tenure, to know who the enemy
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is, to lead the obama administration. all of those things are working against hillary clinton. what the trump campaign has to continually remind people is over the last seven, eight year, isis has grown, syria is ady dis disaster. now our nato and turkey are having more problems because they're movinged more toward islamists under the watch of president obama and hillary clinton. hillary said we need to do something more because this is a problem. someone needs to say to her, you were a top diplomat. you slould been saying something. if you're saying that, then you're saying you failed because you watched erdogan walk down this dangerous path and did nothing about it. it unifies the gop in a way
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trump needed to do. an establishment type but still an outsider. what governor pence did is has a good record of standing firm on centrifugal principles. >> it also seems to be a more aggressive stance on foreign policy, especially in the era of terror and chaos going on in parts of the world. at the moment america's position seems to be one of defense, absorbing what's going on, not making any overt moves to go after it. donald trump appears to say today i'm the law and order guy. i'm the strength. france and terror, it's never going to stop. but with law and order, we're going to stop it. that's proactive. that's going after them. am i reading it correctly? >> no. i think you're reading it
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exactly correctly. donald trump is very in tune with the american people. american people don't feel safe. we've watched san bernardino. chattanoog chattanooga. you have to look at the attacks like in istanbul. these things are growing. it needs to put people over the edge in saying the status quo is not working. they keep offering the same old line that 63 nations are in a coalition trying to defeat isis, but yet we can't find the isis command and control center. there's an absolute impatience on donald trump's part to say let's defeat isis and america is with them. it's a good move. >> we were all listening very, very closely. ric grenell, thanks for being a part of the broadcast today. that about wraps it up. donald trump spent the first
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half hour talking about clinton and his own party. mike pence talked about his success and the economy and he said i'm a a christian, a conservative, and a republican in that order. for those of you just joining us, donald trump and mike pence making their first appearance. thank you for joining us today. this is america's election headquarters from washington. >> it's a busy day. i'm here in the d.c. heat. the weather will be very different signature months when the president of the united states takes the oath of office about 600 yards from where i'm standing right now. john roberts in new york where donald trump and mike pence just
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finished their first joint appearance. what really struck me more than anything else is the complete styles, completely different. >> that's because donald trump has been the business man, the man of television, the a great entertainer and then you saw the well honed politician. you saw the way they talked. that looks like that's the role they're going to play out of the campaign trail. donald trump will be the big personality, the big ideas guy. and as the manager as ma man who knows the ins and outs of congress more than, that mike pence will be the guy with a greater level of detail. he'll be the guy to put together the plans, fill in the blanks if you know. a big criticism of donald trump over the last few months of the presidential campaign, the primary campaign is he's long on ideas but short on details. so i think you sort of see a tag
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team combination of donald trump being the ideas guy and mike pence being the details guy. mike pence came out and had high praise for donald trump not just as a candidate but as a person. listen to what mike pence had to say about donald trump. >> i had a chance to spend time with this family out of the limelight. i know what america will soon know even better. these are good people. donald trump is a good man and he will make a great president of the united states of america. >> that from mike pence. some being skeptical of him because of what he's said. behind the scenes he's a good man. donald trump is relying on mike pence's record in indiana and the economic development in indiana saying we're working across america. we have a team here that knows
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how to bring jobs back, knows how to build a budget and build infrastructure and they would want to take that to the white house. that's going to be the big appeal of this ticket to america. it's going to be the working class who don't have a voice on politics. listen to what donald trump said about mike pence in his governor ship of indiana. >> i found a leader who will help us deliver a safe society and a prosperous -- really prosperous society for all ans. indiana governor mike pence was my first choice. >> donald trump also trying to put to rest that even in the 11th hour before the announcement was made that maybe he was thinking about not giving this to mike pence, maybe either chris christie or newt gingrich. mike pence allowed in his speech this afternoon that trump asked
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him on wednesday. so that would give a whole lot of time between wednesday and today that donald trump could have changed his mind but really couldn't because he was really locked in at that point. apparently, leiland, donald trump was upset some of the machinery that mike pence had to put it together. there were loose lips so he couldn't change his mind. mike pence is headed home to designsville, indiana. donald trump is going to go to the campaign to watch his wife speak. the two will will not campaign together. that's highly unusual. most in the past have built that ticket. donald trump has been breaking the political mode. he's going to do it differently this year. i think you'll see mike pence and donald trump out there on
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the campaign a lot together leading up to the election. >> those two different styles of campaigning, john roberts, you highlighted back in new york. back to liz inside on who pence is. >> a newly minted v.p. rally. i want to get not only to the announcement but right off the bat we saw donald trump hitting hillary clinton really hard on middle east instability. did that surprise you? >> no, not from donald trump. i think that -- listen. a lot of people on twitter and social media were saying that intro was really long. it was 20 minutes before he got to mike peps. listen. this is vintage donald trump and this is him seeing that this was
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a vice president moment. people were tuned in, streaming online and he used that time essentially to campaign. he also used it to go after hillary clinton. and as i was saying before right after the speech, that is, elizabeth. the unifying line for this convention here in cleveland, that hillary clinton can never be the president of the united states. and whether there are republicans who have doubts about donald trump's style or some of the things he said, that line, everybody in the gop seems to clearly agree with. >> right. and you said not only you used the words vintage trump and also unifying. we saw them play on their strengths. we saw donald trump very much boast of the fact he's an outsider, his business experience, law and order,
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really voicing strength. but then we also saw mike pence appear to be a seasoned politician. is that really what we're going to see going forward? those two complementing each other? >> yeah. very different styles. very different presentation. mike pence was touting his time in congress. that's really one of the reasons that donald trump picked him. he wanted somebody who had experience up on capitol hill to be able to get legislation across the finish line if he could. i've talked to mike pence many times. i've been to indiana. we did a piece when he was considering to run for president this time. he's somebody who's a traditional campaigner and conservatively social. it will be interesting to see where they put him, in what
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states for the pitch. >> that's my question. we heard shortly after the speech that they looked at a lot of the states economically and they saw a lot of strength in indiana. is that one of the biggest motivators, attracting that middle class, people who are really feeling it right now? >> yeah. definitely. you heard donald trump say mike pence is a strong executive from indiana and has experience on capitol hill. i should also point out he has foreign policy experience and has been on the foreign affairs committee. it ee tapping the base, socially conservative but also on the establishment base, and i think you're going to see a real focus on the midwest. here in ohio but indiana, these midwest states, the rust belt as well, mike pence, they believe, i think, helps them on that front. >> all right.
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bret baier reporting live. our viewers will appreciate seeing you throughout the weekend and next week and thereafter. thank you so much. >> thanks, elizabeth. a recent poll shows 74% of americans don't know enough about mike pence to like him or not like him. now he's the running mate of one of the most unconventional candidates of our time. >> i they donald truank donald confidence you placed in us, and i accept your invitation to run and serve as vice president of the united states of america. >> for more on this, kevin sheridan, who was a senior adviser on the romney campaign back in 2012. he built what was called a team in waiting then. he lead the communications team roll out. he joins us here in washington before he heads out to cleveland. kevin, you've done this four years ago.
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you're in the hot seat. give this a grade. >> by any professional standards, you're not going to get anyone to say this is anything to brag about. it's been filled with leaks, first the leak of the v.p. tick which is step ping on your surprise announcement and then to come out with a tweet and then today to have this event where donald trump basically talks about himself. so in terms of a conventional rollout, i would not given it a great grade. but look. everything he's doing is unconventional. people like me keep saying this is unlike anything we receive before and he continues to ride along just fine. we'll see. >> a somber acknowledgement or humble one on your side perhaps. the first is do no harm,
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hippocratic oath, the second, your v.p. pick, you hoe picks up a few votes here and there. >> i think arguably he helps throughout the midwest and i think he doubles down on the midwest focus that donald trump has already started and he does help in indiana obviously. i think you can put that one on the board for republicans. look. hillary clinton is very unpopular right now. she took a five. point dip in the polls. she's very beatable. if they can have a good con vejs -- you know, if they can capture the attention of the world and come out of that in a strong position then get to the debate, then it should be a good convention. >> we'll see. kitch
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kevin sheridan, safe travels to cleveland. thanks so much. critics and many republicans no donald trump's national security rhetoric often raises as many questions as it answers. he spoke with fox news gretchen van susteren after the gruesome truck attack. >> i would not allow them to come into the nation. i would do extreme vetting. our country has its own problems. we don't need any more of the problems. >> meanwhile at the white house today before the president headed off to golf, president obama summoned his national summit team. joining us now fox news middle east and terrorist analyst and also a foreign policy for the trump campaign. nice to see you again, sir. >> thank you, leiland.
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>> he said essentially this is what happens when america fails to leave. this is the fault of the obama administration. i'm getting you agree with the stateme statement. >> i do agree with the statement because it's not a one-fight failed coup. there was the opposition failing to change the government, the whole situation on the syrian border and the tensions before. they could have provided better conditions for turkey. >> very clearly as we even heard from donald trump in his introduction of mike pence he talked about, quote/unquote,
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obama/clinton fa obama/clinton failures or foreign policy. h. >> only between 2009 and 2012 where sec clinton was the chief adviser to the president, you look at each one of these, you don't need to make a lot of links. libya was clearly an issue on foreign policy that turned libya into jihadi chaos. relations with egypt also has to do with poor relations in washington, d.c., if not the withdrawal from iraq. there's a long list that the convention and leadership is going to be talking about it. >> we spoke for years about the long list of president obama's decisions and the results in the middle east, going back to egypt and those kinds of things but is the message negative or positive? it's one thing to say i'm going to be tough on terror, i'm going
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to do this or that, does it require someone with a deeper knowledge of foreign policy? >> that senn her hae eh had before he challenged a deep man, mccain is being replaced but in a didn't way. yes, mr. trup p has gathered a number of foreign advisers but more importantly, he'll have the whole government and the state department. >> you say that but he himself said i'm my best foreign policy adviser. is he going to listen to those who may know more about the history history intervention and coups? this is important stuff before yu get up in the briefing room and say who you support or don't support. >> look at the speeches he delivered. there were not many speeches but
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in each one of those, a month back, months ago, if you look at the depth of the speeches, you see strategy. what he needs to do is more of these and certainly when he's e elect elected. not just criticism of this but a different one. >> we've heard fear from our allies around the world on what that change could be. more the next time you come back. walid phares, thank you. >> thank you. his name doesn't come across any terrorist watch list. their connections remain unclear. the site of the attacks as you know, a very large sight is coming back to life.
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the country observes three days of national mourning for the 84 people who were killed. after the break, we know it's called the grand old party. so is cleveland ready for the big bash? rick edison is there now. you do all this research on a perfect car, then smash it into a tree. your insurance company raises your rates... maybe you should've done more research on them. for drivers with accident forgiveness, liberty mutual won't raise your rates due to your first accident. liberty mutual insurance.
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leland? >> and while they promised the quicken loans arena will be ready when it starts on monday, there's a question if the convention is ready for the convention to start, the man at the center, donald trump promises a really big show next week. our rich edson will be there. there are a lot of questions who else is coming. normally this time has been set for a little while, right, rich? >> reporter: that's right. we do know some of the folks coming here to speak. there's a high bar and donald trump has set it himself. he called the last iteration of the show in tampa a boring show and he wants to make it more exciting. here's a list. they expect to add more. house speaker paul ryan. he was the chair of the convention and d 2012 presidential pick. kevin mccarthy, part of the young guns movement along with
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ryan and eric cantor. house majority leader mike mccall and mitch mcconnell who's been rjed to change his tone. some former vice-presidential candidates, newt gingrich, former speaker of the house, senator tom cotton, lieutenant general michael flynn. senator joni ernst, and governor chris christie who dropped out of the race. as for business leaders, dana white, peter teal, cofounder of paypal, a libertarian and
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investor of facebook. tom barrack, and harold hamm mon. >> it's not going to be the same old stale politics. donald trump is going to bring a different level of excitement that's going to make more americans tune in. >> reporter: it's also notable who's not attending this. and that's every former republican nominee for president minus bob dole, the 1996 pick, and also governor john kasich will not be. he's expected to speech in cincinnati. he's not yet embraced or endorsed donald trump for president. he's been asked an awful lot
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about it. lids, back to you. >> rich, thank you so much. we all know the dallas police shootings, the massacre in france, the attempted coup in turkey are a rank of startling examples that the next president could confront. so is donald trump up to the task. up next, a former navy s.e.a.l. and member of the house committee. he's be on the big stage monday night. >> great to be here. the big stage. >> you get your own segment. before we talk about turkey because i'm really interested in hearing your reaction, first and foremost, what are we going to be hearing from you on monday? >> red, white, and blue, and that's making america great for everyone. as a former navy s.e.a.l., the foreign policy has been a nightma nightmare. we can do a term, make mark
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great, red, white, and blue. what matters is the merit of the person and that message is we're a diverse team, we support donald trump, and we need to make america great. a lot of it is making sure our military is strong, making sure we use teamwork, and make sure we have the right rules of engagement, the right equipment,nd the right training to win-t sizively in the field of battle. >> how does what happen order attempted to happen in turkey change the conversation? does it put more emphasis on the military when we had a slew of instances that put it on the military? >> i think they're very happy to see u.s. diminish in our influence. we see china rise, islands being
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built. russia being aggressive and now turkey. it's always been the stabilizing force, the secular. even within the split, the consequence is the governor will move closer to islamic stage, perj whatever is left of the military. >> what does that mean for us and our fight against isis? >> we have to do two things. we have to make sure turkey is stable and they have to address it. turkey is under a lot of stress. we've seen violence, we've seen former military offices. the constitution at risk. turkey is one of our key allies in that region along with egypt.
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both of them have seen turns. in this case, a failed coup. i hope we see a turkey that defends our allies. >> we only have 30 seconds left. i know you can't speculate on what a trump administration would do for us, but who has the president's ear and what could be done differently right now? >> i think in order for donald to win, he has to show a reagan like cabinet. he has to have people around him that are calm and absolutely professional. we've seen that. his supreme court justices were brilliant, a very diverse group. as we go forward he's going have to bring the cards up sooner rather than later and show america what that leadership team is. most americans expect a businessman of donald trump's caliber to also be accompanied by a group of absolute reagan-like cabinet members.
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i'm excited to see what takes place. >> we're excited to see you and hear from you. >> thank you. great to be with you. the platform's in the work. is the grand ol' party the same ol' party. protests are likely with thousands of people descending on cleveland this week. we'll take a look at how officials are ramping up efforts to keep people safe. i asked my dentist if an electric toothbrush was
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as we speak, the secret service is leading security sweeps through the quicken loans arena ahead of the republican national convention. demonstrations at past conventions have turned violent, and already eight different group, some with thousands of members have announced planned protests throughout next week. joining us for more on this
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former fbi assistant director danny collison. there's a lot more going on. we'll start right here, danny. inside the quicken loans arena, what does a security sweep mean? >> oh, my gosh. meaning we have a safe and ensured environment. they'll use bomb dogs and observation and make sure knob's come in and planted a bomb. they'll look at holes that prevents people from coming in. the secret service runs that operation. the chief of police runs everything else. you can bet there's going to be some violence on the streets of cleveland and it's going to be a very difficult proposition for this police didn't to handle. >> you talk about how difficult it is to handle, and we've seen past conventions where police departments had to prepare for protests. perhaps the big variable we've
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seen right now were the big change if you will. the targeting of police officers with high powered rifled. that's nothing something they had to face before. how different is the dynamic now for the officers in cleveland and for that matter in philadelphia? >> it changes everything. in the past you had to worry about shields and face masks and maybe deploying tear gas. but now you're looking at protecting your officers and demonstrators from deadly fire and you have to look at the overwatch issues, is there a parking garage nearby, you have to secure that. you have to be able to rae respond immediately to a violent attack, and it's a really good atmosphere for violent people. they can mix in or hide behind peaceful protesters and commit violent acts. so it changes the whole game plan. it's going to be much more intense. it will be a real andre on that police department. that chief not only has to
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protect that facility, but the entire city of cleveland. with the media attention there, it's a rife place for violent protests and demonstrations. >> we've seen other places where they try to shut down highways. that's of concern too. former director coulson, appreciate your time, sir. >> thank you. >> elizabeth? a draft of which was hammered out by a smaller group. as it stands now, it's more socially conservative than its presumptive nominee donald trump. david drucker has been reporting on the meetings in cleveland and he's here to help us break it all down. first of all, david, thanks so much for joining us. i want to play a sound light when donald trump sat down with bret baier on thursday. take a listen.
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>> when you look at the platform right now, the platform is a large platform. >> it's more socially conservative than the campaign. >> if you look at trade and you look at the wall and you look at the borders and all the things, i mean a few people have said it's like a donald trump speech. i think the platform is very good. do i agree with everything? nobody ever has. >> a couple of things. he seems to be saying there's not much difference between the party platform and the donald trump platform. agree or disagree? >> well, i don't think it's quite accurate but it's fine for donald trump to characterize it that way. there were key changes where trump was closer like on immigration and trade. but i think that most of the issues that the platform dealt with were largely left alone and represent more traditional.
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they were emphasizing to me how much the platform doesn't represent a sharp shift toward trump and how he had told them he was happy to leave the platform alone and let the platform committee work its will and he would embrace whatever they came up with. so on sum issues, yes, there was a move toward trump, but even there, some of what they were worried might be divisive language was left out because they wanted the platform to be something the full party can embrace. for the party insiders and those who live on the platform committee and rules committee, these are people that aren't necessarily trump people unless they're enough. they've been involved for many years. >> all right, david. we only have time for one more question. donald trump said one thing. do i agree with everything. no, nobody ever has. is that a true statement and how
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much does it matter if the two aren't perfectly aligned? >> yes, it's a true statement and it doesn't matter at all that the two aren't aligned. the platform doesn't matter all that much in the grand scheme of things. at the end of the day, the election is going to be about the nominee and what he believes and the fact that he doesn't embrace all that isn't that much politically thanking. >> david drucker, thanks so much for your insight. i'm sure we'll be hearing more from you. thank you. >> thank you so much. >> still to come, donald trump's choice for a running mate isn't just the talk. they're hitting back with their reaction. we're going to have a live report just ahead.
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as one of the movement's earliest advocates painting him as early immigrant for his opposition to immigration reform. anti-woman for trying to defund planned parenthood and anti-lgbt for his religious freedom bill. senator elizabeth warren, clinton's primary trump attack dog tweeting today donald trump and meike pence are a perfect match. two small insecure weak men who use hate and fear to divide our country and our people. hillary clinton tweeting if you have any doubts about trump sticking with his dangerous plan for america, say hello to his vp pick. the campaign also taking advantage of a report that trump had last-minute doubts about
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picking pence as his vp. it's a report trump denies, but the clinton camp says it proves trump is an indecisive leader. >> around midnight last night, so this morning, donald trump was on the phone with senior advisers trying to see if he could get out of this. if it's possible to not actually pick mike pence. >> you have a candidate who's not comfortable with the decision. >> meantime as one vp race ends, clinton's vp speculation ramps up. fox confirmed on friday clinton met with three potential vp running mates. that includes elizabeth warren, governor john hickenlooper from colorado and the housing secretary, julian castro at her home in washington, d.c. now, this morning politico reports mrs. clinton will announce her vice presidential pick next friday in florida. the campaign says a decision of
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countries to the core. we begin in istanbul where the president of turkey is making good on his promise to punish the leaders of a failed military coup overnight. hi, john, what can you tell us? okay. well, this is live television, so you can understand sometimes we lose satellite feeds. we'll get back to john as soon as we get his satellite feedback up. in the meantime, a makeshift memorial is growing in nice at the end of one of the city's famous seaside promenades honoring the victims of thursday's terror attack. police now have five people in custody, while dozens of victims remain in critical condition. benjamin hall is outside a hospital in nice and he has an update with us. hi, benjamin. >> reporter: yeah, hi. in the aftermath of these attacks you really start to hear the story of those affected, the
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families torn apart, the very bloody nature of this terror attack. 84 people were killed. we are outside the hospital today and there are not only grieving families here but also friends, relatives still looking for loved ones lost who can't be found. there's been a surge in the city as a number of people come to get blood and to give blood. the country has been coming together in the wake of this terrorist attack. today again tragedy as people still looking for loved ones. >> translator: on the night of the attack, she was with the whole family. we know that she was there, but right now we don't know where she is. it's the last hope. we call on hospitals to please give us information. >> reporter: and there is more information coming out about the attacker himself. his connection to terror groups. although he had no direct links, intelligence services have crossed his phone records and found a link to a man called
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om omar diabi. there were those connections and that's what the police are looking into now. though he wasn't an observant muslim himself, mohamed bohlel said he was inspired by them. although that connection didn't exist and he had no training from them, there was that connection. however, instead he seems to have been for the moment a disgruntled delivery driver. he was in the middle of a divorce. he had had numerous run-ins with the police. one of the issues here now is that there is that very quick radicalization, in this case short, short. the moment that he was radicalized and thought he acted very quickly and that's what police are saying is very tough to stop soft targets. they are wondering how you stop them in the future and that is what is coming out of this attack here in nice. >> benjamin hall, thank you so much for bringing us the latest
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on such a devastating story. long rumored for the past couple of days but donald trump made it official just a few hours ago, setting the ticket as he chose indiana governor mike pence to be his running mate for the next few months leading to the november election. donald trump says that will be the man with him inside the white house as his vice president. carl cameron spent a couple of minutes with both men just before they took the stage in new york and joins us now. carl, how's that dynamic between the two working? >> reporter: it's still a work in progress, i think. you know, there's been a lot of talk about this is such a chaotic process and the trump campaign was back and forth deliberating whether or not pence should be the pick, but historically when you compare this to vice presidential selection processes in both the republican and democratic party over the last 20-plus years, it's fairly common. the truth of the matter is dick
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cheney, who was the head of the search committee for george w. bush's running mate, picked himself. there was a time when john kerry was the democratic nominee and "the new york post" said it was gephardt and it turned out to be john edwards. it is always chaotic and a big pot of it is the scramble that the press has. donald trump made light of the fact that during the actual primary campaign, indiana governor mike pence, who trump did acknowledge was his pick yesterday, was actually a supporter and endorser of ted cruz, although trump did say pence said nice things about him while he was supporting cruz. watch. >> when governor pence under tremendous pressure from establishment people endorsed somebody else, but it was more of an endorsement for me, if you remember. it was the single greatest nonendorsement i've ever had in my life.
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>> reporter: trump also gave a standard stump speech talking about how he will be the law and order president, he will fight terrorism and bring jobs back, et cetera. after he introduced mr. pence, he pretty much left the stage and pence expressed his humility, his gratitude and his goals. watch. >> donald trump is a good man and he will make a great president of the united states of america. and i thank donald trump for the confidence you've placed in us, and i accept your invitation to run and serve as vice president of the united states of america. >> reporter: they have in the past differed on some issues. pence is a free trader and supported the tpp, the transpacific partnership. he has now adjusted that position. pence had been a critic of some of trump's rhetoric about banning muslims. he now says if it's to stop terrorists coming from countries
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where terrorism is rampant, he's okay with that. trump has had a variety of positions and been registered as a democrat and republican, back and forth over the years. pence was a democrat but became a republican during the reagan era and has one of the scions of the religious right and real conservative republican politics in the country. what pence brings is a calming force for conservatives and folks on the right who have been a little suspicious of donald trump because of the past and some of the positions he's taken, particularly on social issues. pence will reassure those at the convention who have misgivings that it will be a conservative ticket. and as for the idea of attracting bernie democrats or swing democrats or independents, pence is very, very conservative, but it was donald trump at the top of the ticket who was already appealing to those types of voters, so he didn't need a running mate that was going to necessarily be outreach to others. donald trump thinks he can do that. now we have a ticket with a very, very conservative running mate and donald trump who is very, very conservative on a variety of issues, but on some
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he says there has to be exceptions and there should be negotiating positions because he wants to make deals. next time we'll see them together will be on the convention floor. >> all right, we'll wait for that as we see pence head back to jeff sessions, a trump supporter, coming up a little bit later on in the decision process. thanks, carl. as promised, let's get back to the developing story out of turkey today. john huttie is on the ground in istanbul where he has the very latest on the failed military coup overnight. john, what can you tell us today? >> reporter: well, elizabeth, the turkish president has vowed to arrest any and all of those who were involved in the failed coup attempt last night, vowing not only for revenge but also that those will pay a heavy price for their treason, the supporters of the failed coup attempt. it erupted late last night. so far more than -- close to
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3,000 people anyway have been arrested in connection with the chaos that erupted here in istanbul and ankara as well with tanks rolling through the streets, armored personnel carriers, helicopter fire and attacks on and explosions at the country's parliament building and presidential palace. the airports, the two major airports, one on the asian side of turkey, of is tan bull, both were shut down. also the major bridges were shut down, reopened earlier this afternoon. last night it was quite a contrast. there were tanks and apcs lining the bridge. at least 160 people were killed, more than 14 others -- 1400 others wounded, rather. as of late this morning, the president said that the country was back under control. we saw supporters of his
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rallying, thousands of them rallying once again today in ankara. now as we're seeing, now comes the purge with the arrests of basically any and everyone suspected of being linked to or involved in the failed coup attempt, including military, police officials and also judicial leaders here in turkey as well. the fallout from the chaos is also impacting the u.s.' fight against isis. we're receiving word from the pentagon that u.s. warplanes have stopped flying out of an air base in southern turkey after the government closed the airspace and also commercial power was cut off to that air base. it's unclear why exactly, elizabeth, but clearly the fallout continues. at this point here on the ground in istanbul, things are getting seemingly back to normal. people, tourists are out. we've seen tourist boats out and about so it remains quiet at
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least for now. >> all right, thank you, john. we'll keep an eye on the situation. back to politics. money talks. we know you've heard that before, a sentiment donald trump also knows all too well. but now presidential politics is calling and there are signs he's working to separate the trump business empire from his official duties as the presumptive gop nominee. james rosen is in cleveland and he has a very inside look. hi, james. >> reporter: elizabeth, good afternoon. one of the first people to ask the presumptive gop nominee what would become of his sprawling business empire if he wins the white house was maria bartiromo who broached the subject with the candidate almost a year ago. >> i mean in terms of avoiding any conflict, would you put it in a blind trust? how would you deal with that? >> i'd do whatever you're supposed to do. i guess i would put it in a
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trust or a blind trust. you know ivanka and my boys, i have a lot of great executives, they'd run the company. >> reporter: but experts in the tangled business of disentangling office holders told fox news a blind trust wouldn't necessarily address the potential for conflicts of interest for donald trump because his intimate understanding of his own holdings and interests would never fully go blind. he simply knows too much about those dealings. more surprising, however, is the fact that presidents of the united states and vice presidents are largely exempt from the basic criminal conflict of interest statutes that govern most other executive branch employees. no statute forces a president to sell off his companies as long as he doesn't use his office to benefit those companies. attorney kenneth gross, who's advised the likes of daniel moynihan, bob dole and michael bloomberg said turning over the trump empire to the trump children would be a positive step but it doesn't absolve trump of being concerned about
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conflicts of interest. he still needs to be conscious. holdings he has, not just his assets but his debt as well. now, some have noticed a slight change already with increasingly the trump campaign holding events off site of trump-owned properties, perhaps to steer clear of fec rules, which might label such kinds of events when they're held at trump towers or other places like that as in-kind contributions, elizabeth. >> all right, james roesen reporting live. thank you so much, appreciate it. republican vp pick mike pence heads back to indiana before going to cleveland for the gop convention that starts on monday. this as democratic leaders are already taking aim at pence calling him too extreme. joining us live, alabama senator, trump supporter, jeff sessions. senator, appreciate you being with us today, sir. give us a sense inside the trump campaign, how did this mike pence pick come to be? >> well, i think they were
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looking for someone they felt would be a good president, someone who has gravitas and experience. he has both experience, 12 years as a congressman. he has stood up to the leadership in that position. he was a part of the republican leadership in the house. and of course he has executive experience as a governor of four years and a great record in indiana, so he's a man of integrity, proven ability, and well, well liked within the republican people. >> we heard that from marco rubio, we heard paul ryan both come out and say they agreed with this pick. but ordinarily you seem to pick somebody, at least in the past as vice presidential picks went, that agreed with you on most issues but a couple of trump's key staples, some cornerstones of his campaign, be it the issue of trade, immigration, or a ban on muslims are things that pence actively worked against and has
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spoken against. how do you square that circle where you have the top and bottom of the ticket so opposed on these key issues? >> they spoke clearly in support of trump's immigration policies. on trade, i voted for most of those trade agreements myself, but in recent years we've been studying the data on did those agreements work as promised, and they have not. donald trump was right to begin with. he understood the problems with these trade agreements. he warned about them. i think we can all say he saw before we did. i think mike and i were probably at the same position there. we're learning more, we've seen the results of what we thought would happen and it hasn't been there. the results are not good as we had thought. >> you spoke about the issue of mike pence's gravitas and obviously he is by many standards been a very successful governor in indiana. i myself have been there and reported on the economic growth and those things. but the way he presents himself up on the stage is very much as a typical politician, typical
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stump speech, scripted, very well thought-out kind of sentences put together, very different than the style we hear from donald trump. was that part of the factor of picking somebody who for lack of a better term sounded a little bit more traditional? >> well, i think donald trump did like the fact that he is articulate and can communicate well and speaks well. i think that was important to him. it will be valuable to anybody who would be vice president. but let me tell you, mike pence is a man of principle. he's proven that in the house and as governor. he stands up for what he believes in. and i believe that he's not just someone that somebody writes a script for. he's got great qualities and great principles. >> well, senator sessions, one of the first people to get behind donald trump back in the day, now behind his running mate as well. thank you, sir, i appreciate it. >> thank you. >> good to see you. back inside to liz. let's keep talking politics. the party platform is where
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delegates are supposed to showcase unity, but some delegates are butting heads when it comes to gay rights, trade, even the nominee himself. the former rnc chairman, mike duncan, is no stranger to this kind of drama leading up to the big event and he joins us from cleveland. first of all, mike, thank you for joining us. is this drama unusual? is this part of the process? the reason i ask is because during donald trump's press conference he squashed the never trump movement, especially within the delegates. true or not true? >> there's not been a lot of drama. had there been a contested convention, i think there would have been more drama. i chaired the credentials committee and we only had five contests. four years ago there were 21 contests. so the drama that we thought would occur here has not. people are in accord and understand that we need change in the country. there were 168 people from all over the country with the rnc. we had 112 people on each of three committees here this week and it was almost unanimous these people want change and
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they want donald trump. >> so i heard you say drama-free, i heard you say people are in accord. that's great for a convention. but what's also great for a convention is money. how are we doing sponsorship wise? how is donald trump doing? how is the gop party doing ahead of the convention? >> well, this is my 12th convention and i've been involved in management of the convention since 1996. i've seen conventions that have had lots of money, in minneapolis for example we turned over $3 million back to the city for the good of the city. i've seen cities that haven't had as much money, san diego, for example, had some difficulty toward the end. but you know what, at the end of the day it's about the presidential acceptance speech because that's where you get the bump. that's where people are watching. they understand donald trump, they're going to see donald trump can be president of the united states. that's what the convention is about. >> if he doesn't get that private sector support now, and let's say donald trump becomes the president of the united states come january, how is that relationship going to work with the private sector and the
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government? >> well, he has private sector support. let me point out to you, if you look at the fund-raising with the rnc and the trump campaign, look what happened with the small donors that came in. they're at the same capacity of bernie sanders or hillary clinton. this is unusual for our candidates at this point. typically at this point you're getting the large donors in and the small donors haven't got on and they don't until october. this is new for the republican party. >> we only have about 30 seconds left, but i do want to ask you, because after any major event, especially on the heels of his press conference today, donald trump will undoubtedly see a huge bump in support. how does he capitalize on that and continue that momentum? >> well, obviously it's more difficult this time because you've got the democrat convention that's coming immediately after the republican convention. we've really not had that as many times in history. but there are three times that you have this opportunity. one is at the convention and he'll get a bump there. you'll see that in the polls. the second time is going to be
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the first debate. that's going to be really important. a lot of people tune in then and they'll see he's capable of being president. the third time is when we get into voting. those are the three times people pay attention and you get that inflection point that you need to be elected. >> mike duncan, thank you for bringing your expertise, we appreciate it. >> pleasure. still to come, an uneasy calm in turkey as over 1600 soldiers are arrested for their role in an attempted coup. so what does this mean for the u.s. and nato relationship with turkey? plus, bernie sanders says he's with her, but is his endorsement of hillary clinton actually helping hillary clinton's campaign or could it hurt? plus, the u.s. secret service and law enforcement are running undoubtedly a tight ship in cleveland, as thousands of demonstrators also converge on ohio. our mike tobin is on the ground with more. hi, mike.
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protesters and demonstrations of course come with the territory during presidential elections and presidential conventions, but there is one thing about cleveland that makes this gop convention different from almost any other. that city has what they call an open carry law, meaning anyone with a permit can bring a firearm very close to the action. close to the convention center, close to the delegates, close to the candidate, but just how close? our mike tobin is in cleveland with a look at how the secret service is adjusting to this unusual challenge and also getting ready for the demonstrations that are already behind you. >> reporter: that's exactly it. first we're watching the demonstrations. this is the first of the nonpermitted demonstrations to pop up. initially when we showed here, we had one of those dynamics in which there were more cameras than there were demonstrators. that only changed because a lot of the cameras left.
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as you can see, this has turned into a bit of a concert, a rap concert, if you will. this is the coalition of the oppressed and their march against racism. much of what you've heard at this particular demonstration is what we've heard from black lives matter movement already. they say they're going to demonstrate at both conventions because they say the politicians from both conventions are responsible for the system in which the rich get richer and the poor get more hopeless. >> the republicans and the democrats basically are puppets of the same corporate puppeteers that have created these conditions, by exploiting the resources, by overworking, underpaying, overcharging and underserving the masses. >> reporter: i want to point out these people in the neon green shirts, these are representatives of the national lawyers guild. they're going to show up at these demonstrations as third-party observers, particularly in the event of
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incidents in the event of arrests, they'll be third-party observers to sort out the facts with that. we're watching a lot of gates, a lot of jersey barriers coming up, the kind of thing you couldn't get a car through. leland. >> and it will only get tighter from here on out. mike tobin in cleveland as the protests undoubtedly grow as well. thanks, mike. liz. >> we know local roads and highways, exit ramps will be closed around parts of philadelphia where the democratic national convention will take place later this month. pop-up barriers will be used to harden the perimeter around the wells fargo arena, and pedestrian-only areas will be established. tens of thousands of protesters are expected to show up. authorities say security will resemble the plan used for the pope's visit, but on a little bit smaller scale. just ahead, the two-man team is in place, mike pence, donald trump. now comes the hard part,
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perhaps, selling it to the american people. our political panel weighs in on the trump-pence ticket and what it could do for republican party unity. and our fox news military analyst breaks down the attempted coup in turkey overnight. a surprise act that sent diplomatic, political and of course security ripples across the middle east and across the world. >> translator: this acts of betrayal is an uprising and let me say ahead of time, they will pay a very heavy price for the betrayal of the motherland.
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fox news military analyst. general, thank you for joining us. i want to tackle this in a couple ways. first and foremost, i want to get your perspective going forward. what is turkey going to look like going forward? and i also want to hear from you on how that impacts us. >> certainly, what he'll likely do is consolidate his power base. he's pushed back on eliminating political opposition groups. there's going to be more of that. he's going to purge whatever is left of the secular military. his power will increase and i think he will accelerate his movement, his political movement towards an islamic state. >> we're learning so much with the history of turkey and this secular movement by the military seems to be intertwined in the history books, so why this time was it perhaps not successful, and is that for the better or for the worse? >> it's hard for us to speculate on why not successful. 1600 is not a lot of troops. who were the leaders involved, what type of resources did they
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have, what sort of surprise were they able to achieve, was this picked up before execution, we don't know any of that. but the reality is frustration has been building a very long time in the military as their president moved away from a democracy fundamentally. he was mixed on dealing with isis. the truth is remember all of those isis fighters that came from those foreign countries, they came through turkey. we tried to get him to stop it. he kept those flood gates open. >> that's what i was going to ask you, how does this impact us going forward, because there is so much talk about the way in which these folks are getting into syria, and turkey is turning a blind eye. are they going to continue to turn a blind eye and how does this hurt us? >> they made some improvements but they haven't shut the border down. also isis has been using its commodity, it's major financial commodity, oil, they have been using that on the turkish black market to make money on a regular basis. i think some of that will continue with this regime.
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we are using turkish bases and that's a good thing against isis. we do some classified things there, operations against isis as well and he's facilitating that. our relationship with them and nato will stand. they are an important nato country. they are a very powerful military. the fact that they sit right there near asia is strategically very smisignificant. >> you mentioned isis called the 31-year-old man in nice a soldier for their cause. what was your reaction when you heard that? we do sometimes typically see a delay in their ownership of the attacks. what crossed your mind when you heard that? >> well, i'm so frustrated by it, to be frank. radical islam has morphed into now a global jihad. we have no global alliance against it. we have no strategy whatsoever. this is the tenth attack, elizabeth, on a nato country. the united states, belgium, france and turkey have been the
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countries that have been the recipient of those attacks. why haven't nato declared war against isis. they did after the 9/11 attacks. it's outrageous they haven't done it. why, it's a lack of leadership. the reason is they do not want to be held accountable to their performance and to resolving this quickly, and that is a lousy state that we're in. as a result of that, as a result of u.s. leadership, u.s. lack of responsibility here and these feckless leaders in europe, this carnage is going to continue, sadly to say. >> and when you see those images, the small body bags, it's just -- it elicits just a physical response. it's hard to imagine that we may see more attacks coming, it's difficult. general jack keane, thank you so much for joining us. >> good talking to you, elizabeth. tomorrow, coverage of the republican national convention continues live from cleveland on fox news sunday. chris wallace talks with donald trump's campaign manager, paul manafort. check your local listings for time and channel. coming up after the break, they have made their first
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fall. a short while ago donald trump said his vice presidential choice is indiana governor mike pence and he meets all the criteria. listen. >> i found the leader who will help us deliver a safe society and a prosperous, really prosperous society for all americans. indiana governor mike pence was my first choice. >> let's have a fair and balanced debate. talk about how the now official trump-pence ticket affects the political landscape. angela mcglowan, a fox news political analyst and in cleveland, careen jean-pierre a democratic strategist. thank you for joining us. i want to start with you and get your reaction. i assume that you listened to the press conference. is this a ticket now, we're seeing them join forces, two very different stielyles, sometg that hillary clinton should be
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worried about? >> oh, not at all. i don't think so at all. as far as the democrats, we unanimously basically passed a progressive platform which has never been seen before, especially coming out of the primary we came out of where bernie sanders really had a message that resonated, bringing in new voters, bringing in young voters, and so having that and being unified and having bernie sanders come behind her, i think we're in a good place for our convention in philly. look, when it comes to donald trump and the vp pick, the vp pick is supposed to be a do no harm. it's supposed to be something that's not traditionally supposed to make a difference. let me finish here. he ended up, you know, he and his campaign bumbled it. not only that, the vp pick is the only time in a presidential campaign where we get to see the judgment, right, the judgment of that candidate. he wasn't even able to do that.
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for the last 24 to 48 hours it's been complete chaos. is that what the white house is going to be like with a president trump? to me, that was disturbing. >> angela, i want to get your reaction. we heard karine say that the democrats have come together on a very progressive platform, but is that what the voters want this election cycle? >> it doesn't matter about a platform, it doesn't matter about policy, people want people that they believe in that will create jobs, create a prosperous america, a better america and a safer america. and hearing her talk about our vp pick lets me know donald trump picked the right one. there are three reasons why pence is the right one. number one, experience, conservative he can pull some of ted cruz's folks. he was on the foreign policy committee and vice chair of the subcommittee over asia and the middle east. what are we dealing with now, the middle east. another thing, he's a governor. traditionally governors make better presidents. but donald trump is not a conventional candidate and this is not a conventional race, so
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mike pence doesn't have a lot of name i.d., but people will now look after him or look him up to see what he's all about. >> okay. i want to ask you one more question and get karine's response. we all remember back in 2012 and 2013 there was an autopsy report by the rnc where they were really looking to reach out to more voters. there was a number of efforts that they wanted to take place ahead of 2016. do you feel like they have accomplished that, angela, going forward? does this ticket symbolize that? >> the ticket symbolizes it because in 2012 it was conservatives and barack obama that defeated mitt romney. choosing pence now brings the conservatives back to trump and trump can get those independents from bernie sanders. just because bernie endorsed hillary doesn't mean that people really trust her now and that bernie is really behind her. i mean he bashed her the whole time. so i believe that trump can pull some independents. i believe he can pull some millennials and he'll get those
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conservatives and that equals victory. >> going back to the autopsy that you were bringing up, elizabeth, in 2012 there were six important things that came out of that autopsy. one of them was, hey, let's make sure that immigration reform is number one an important thing that happens. here you have with the republican platform that's talking about building a wall. here you have pence who says, no, we don't need immigration reform. so how is it they're learning their lesson from 2012. not only that, with the lgbtq community, in that autopsy the republican national committee autopsy it says we need to be more on the left with the lgbt community. who did we pick? we picked mike pence, a governor who made it very difficult for the lgbtq community, actually made it legal for the corporations and businesses to discriminate against them. >> no, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait. i'm not going to have you -- i'm not going to have you put false information out there, okay. >> hold on a second, angela, i have not interrupted you. >> you should not lie.
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you should not put that out there right now. >> i'm a guest and you're a guest and we should respect each other. >> but you still should tell the truth. >> i am telling the truth. >> angela, you can respond. >> it's part of the platform and the autopsy. >> angela, you have 15 seconds to respond. >> she said pence passed legislation that would discriminate against people for their sexual orientation. i don't see that as a part of our political platform. let me give you some advice here, people are tired of people actually scoping the interview and giving information that we want them to hear. people are smarter than that. >> angela, karine, thank you very much, very heated conversation. we hope to have you back. thank you so much. >> thanks, elizabeth. >> great debate, ladies, as we continue on "america's election headquarters" this saturday. it was, of course, a brutal primary season for the democrats, not necessarily an expected one. hillary clinton's top rival questioned whether she was qualified to be president. now bernie sanders has a new
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welcome back to "america's election headquarters" on this summer saturday as the republicans head into their big week in cleveland, we will keep hearing over and over again about creating party unity. the republicans, of course, aren't the only ones with a problem in that department. democrats kick off their convention a week from monday in philadelphia, trying to heal some deep and what are certainly some fresh wounds. joining us now, matthew wolter, who has been on hand for many of the democratic events and was there when bernie sanders endorsed hillary clinton earlier this week. so, matthew, was that it? is it over now? are the democrats unified? >> i think it's far from over. what i saw in portsmouth was senator sanders give a lukewarm
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speech with two or three throwaway compliments to secretary clinton tacked on at the end and his supporters yelling you traitor, we loved you, bernie, you be trade us. >> so you have these folks who were diehard bernie folks. one of our producers said angry bernie bros is what a lot of people are calling these bernie sanders supporters. do they take this anger to philadelphia? that's not the shouts and cries hillary clinton wants as she's accepting the democratic nomination thursday night. >> absolutely not. i do think they'll take this anger with them to philadelphia. jill stein, the nominee of the green party, is holding a big rally there. look, we're talking about people who were so dedicated to sanders, some of them told me they maxed out their credit cards to donate to his campaign. even the ones who end up voting for secretary clinton i don't think will bring that level of enthusiasm and organization to getting behind her campaign.
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>> so what are they going to vote for? we saw a lot of exit polls coming out of west virginia that 40% of sanders supporters could flip to trump. do you think that number is that high or as hillary clinton moves on down the campaign road do you think she's going to be able to pull and convince more and more sanders supporters. >> look, leland, i think that the younger people who were behind bernie sanders are either going to stay home, get behind hillary or maybe go for the green party. i think on the other hand, though, that older voters in states like west virginia or michigan, for example, where union voters and lower income voters went overwhelmingly for bernie sanders, these are people who remember the '90s, they remember nafta and don't trust the clintons on issues about trade. i could definitely see the older part of that sanders coalition turning out for trump in november. >> well, that would certainly change things, to say the least. very quickly, 30 seconds, any vp pick that hillary clinton can make in the next week or so that
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would change this dynamic radically? >> i think she absolutely at this point has to pick tim kaine of virginia. >> all right. we will hear, that name has been floated a number of times as well. matthew, come back and talk to us regardless of who she picks, all right? >> thank you for having me. you heard this in preschool, right? many hands make light work. we'll tell you what role these high school kids are playing at the republican national convention. there goes another balloon.
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here's something we bet you did not know about one of the most iconic moments of a presidential convention. the massive balloon drop. they'll be released thursday night when the republican nominee is officially announced. that's a lot of hot air. about 100 local high school students came into the convention center yesterday to inflate the vinyl at a rate of about 20,000 balloons per hour. now, leland, i know you don't really want to hear the words "hot air" but you have to admit that's pretty impressive. >> very impressive. and you have to think about what would happen when all of a sudden these kids come back from summer break. what did you do this summer? i was a balloon inflater. >> you know, there are worse things. there are worse things than being a balloon inflater. >> i can think of a few ways i spent my summer that was worse than that. >> thank you for joining us. that's all we have here in
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washington. journal editorial report is next. >> have a great one. see you guys. stay inside with the air conditioning, it's better in there. i found the leader who will help us deliver a safe society and a prosperous, really prosperous society for all americans. indiana governor mike pence was my first choice. >> welcome to the special edition of the journal editorial report as we count down to next week's republican convention in cleveland. i'm paul gigot and that was donald trump earlier today appearing for the first time with his vice presidential running mate, indiana governor mike pence. trump announced the decision on twitter friday ending weeks of speculation and eliciting a
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