running mate mike pence after touching down with several of his private helicopters. melissa: did a few laps with a big entrance. why don't we watch "outnumbered" from here and be back here in an hour. jon: that sounds like a good idea. hope it sounds good to you as well. "outnumbered" starts right now. sandra: here is fox news alert for you. tonight is the big night. we're now hours away from donald trump's acceptance speech at the republican national convention. this as the drama from last night still reverberating this is "outnumbered." i'm sandra smith. with us at the rnc, outside on this lovely afternoon, there she is, harris faulkner. radio talk show host meghan mccain is here. fnc contributor and author of, what the bleep just happened. monica crowley with us today. today's #oneluckyguy, we're so glad to have with us, the former governor of the great state of arkansas, and former presidential candidate governor mike huckabee is here and he is

outnumbered. >> i really am although i think today it is four lucky ladies. sandra: oh, boy. harris: eric bolling told you to say that? >> i just knew it was true. sandra: okay. monica, good to have you. >> thank you, it's great to be here. hi, guys. harris: inaugural time on the couch. >> yes. sandra: let's get this started. we are now just hours away from donald trump's big night but last night when the focus was supposed to be on mr. trump's number two, governor mike pence, serious fireworks when ted cruz failed to endorse his former rival during his prime time convention speech. senator cruz getting booed off the stage in one of the most memorable moments in modern political history. >> if you love our country, and love your children as much as i know that you do, stand and speak and vote your conscience. vote for candidates up and down the ticket who you trust to defend our freedom.

we will unite the party. we will unite the country by standing together. i appreciate the enthusiasm of the new york delegation. sandra: afterwards gop leaders ripping into the texas senator, including some of his one-time supporters like former texas governor rick perry. >> this is contest. i understand contests. i'm a competitor but the at end of the day if you don't make it to the finals, then you know, pull for your team. i think you start looking like an individual who cares only about yourself. >> we can wish all we like. the point is there is election. votes matter. i completely concur with the governor. we have to root on and support our team. not just because we're supposed to. because it matters. sandra: at a breakfast this morning with the texas delegation, cruz doubling down, not only refusing to endorse trim but coy whether he will even vote for his former rival. listen to this.

>> i'm watching. i am listening. and as i told you last night, the standard that i intend to apply is which candidate i trust to defend our freedom, and be faithful to the constitution. i can tell you i'm not voting for hillary. [cheering] what does it say, when you stand up and say, vote your conscience, rabid supporters of our nominee begin screaming, saying what a horrible thing to say! sandra: that was this morning, governor, but last night i know we were on the edge of our seats, waiting, waiting as cruz made his way through that speech, wondering if he was finally going to make that endorsement. it never came. >> he was circling runway. we all thought he would land the plane and absolutely crashed it. it was dishonorable moment. he shouldn't have been invited

to stage and he was invited and took the invitation, this is the key, should keep the pledge he made in the very arena a year ago when he said he would support the nominee of the party. we all signed it. we said it on national television. he earned his moniker last night had attributed to him, "lyin' ted." there is new broadway play, "lion king" ii, opening on broadway. dishonored himself and convention. i am absolutely disgusted. sandra: donald trump is reacting as he normally does in the format of twitter and he has been saying this. this is a couple tweets reacting to ted cruz's non-endorsement. other than a small group of people who suffered and massive embarrassing losses, the party is very united. great love in the a rena. wow, ted cruz got booed off the stage. didn't honor the pledge. i saw his speech two hours early but let him speak anyway. no big deal. monica.

>> so last night ted cruz did the impossible. turned donald trump the victim. graciousness costs nothing. in world of politics can give you enormous rewards. you start gathering chris, if like ted cruz you want to run again particularly for president. what ted cruz did last night, i was astonished. i'm extremely disappointed with him. i agree with the governor it was dishonorable. the trump campaign got ahold of the speech two hours before and let him go on anyway. if they didn't, that would be story, they were trying to censor him. they gave him enough rope to hang himself and he followed through on that. this morning he is trying to spin it in certain ways, trying to do damage control. this has hurt him profoundly. this is done lasting damage. i think he was trying to position himself as ronald reagan in 1976, but reagan was asked to speak literally in the convention hall when you had an incumbent

president, gerald ford. reagan did not endorse gerry ford but made it clear the republican party was unhappy family and ted cruz didn't do that last night. sandra: trump said, i saw the speech. the campaign looked at it, meghan. what do you make of the move to put him up there anyway? >> my understanding was they knew he wasn't going to endorse before they saw the speech. you worked for the campaign, is that true? >> i don't work for campaign. meghan: i'm sorry. >> i'm not an employee. meghan: you endorsed him. >> i endorsed him because i said i would. i kept my way. none of us like getting beat but all of us have obligation to the party. all of us understand how bad hillary would be for the country. meghan: do you know if it true that he would not endorse? >> i don't know that. meghan: my understanding. >> trump campaign mistake if

they knew that and let him. i was speaking at conventions since '92. no one ever got near the stage if they weren't supporting nominee. harris: we got embargoed remarks. we were watching on the edge of our seat to see if he goes there. we see embargoed speeches. i give the campaign the benefit of the doubt, a man who said he would speak for ten minutes, isn't going to speak for 23. wait for the candidate to come up on stage and start playing wrap music for you and me. sandra: harris we assumed he was going to endorse. he promised he would. on a roll, it at this fox news debate they all would support the nominee, they took the pledge. watch. >> senator cruz, yes or no, you will support donald trump if he is the nominee? >> yes. because i gave my word that i would. and what i have endeavored to do every day in the senate is do what i said i would do.

harris: there you have it. >> one of the things i think we got to remember he said because of his hurt feelings. things were sad about his family. look, this is big boy game. you get into the process you will get hurt. you will see your own blood. i tell people all the time if you can't stand the sight of your own blood don't run for anything. meghan, if anybody i know would have a reason to be unhappy and not endorse it would have been your father back in 2000 when the bush campaign said terrible things put out about your family. that was horrible and unconscionable. you know what your dad did? he stood up as a statesman and supported party, support the ticket. that is how it is done. he taught us how it is done. not the way ted cruz played it last night. sandra: go ahead. meghan: i will say, election is incredibly personal and dirty. i don't know what woo have happened donald trump said about your wife or daughter or your father. ted cruz is setting himself up for 2020.

i think it is evident by his speech last night. i think he is doubling down on being the resistant conservative candidate. 60% of the republicans right now say they would like another candidate. just reflection of what is going on out in the world as well. i responded to to it. but i understand trump supporters and people outside the convention. i mean you could hear it audibly you there the television set. harris: i want to ask you about your response. i follow you on twitter. last night you said mic drop. meghan: awkward for me. harris: i just want to ask you -- meghan: feel like i represent a demographic not represented all the time. harris: tell me about the demographic. meghan: 31-year-old millenial woman, my father aside, just analyst i haven't liked tone of donald trump's campaign. you're a man of faith. that is probably thing america knows most about you. are you confident he would elect pro-life people on supreme court given he has a record of being pro-choice so long? that is questions still remain for people like me?

>> i think i'm very confident he would and i'm confident hillary would not. that is my choice. i have trump and hillary. that is an easy one. mic drop, i think he dropped his pants. meghan: i assume you become close with him, have a relationship with him. how hard would have been for donald trump to apologize. things happen during the campaigns. primaries are rough. i made a mistake. shouldn't have said that about heidi cruz or said that about your dad. sandra: maybe he will. he has a big moment. meghan: can i expect for him to apologize? harris: i don't know what he will do but tell you ted cruz didn't keep his bored. meghan: it would go a long way. donald trump is nominee and it would go a long way if he did. harris: all eyes on donald trump tonight. as he heard he will accept the republican nomination for president. the speech likely most important he ever made. michael godwin or good win of the "new york post" is explaining, more than a majority of voters simply can't imagine trump as president.

his challenge to change millions of minds with the speech of his life. he should not be all things to all people. he must reveal a man fully ready to lead the nation for all occasions. former republican presidential candidate herman cain, gave him his advice. >> he does not he need to attack hillary clinton tomorrow night. i hope his speechwriters are listening. that's been done already this weekend. they have done an outstanding job. i would focus on here are my major priorities, his major priorities are tax code, repeal and replace obamacare. energy indepen the energy sector take off, rebuilding military, a host of those. should focus on those an make america great part, not attack hillary clinton. that has already been done. harris: former presidential candidate himself, mr. 999 monica says, donald trump need as 10. >> he need as 10. i expect him to be on his a-game tonight. donald trump showed he can extrordinary sixth sense in the

campaign tapping anger and betrayal and desire of most voters and their desire to smash the existing order. what i expect from him tonight, if obama and hillary are about big government america, that donald trump will be about big america. this is about restoring america's greatness. and that means high growth economically, strong militarily, powerfully politically and culturally and adventerous from sea to space. old kennedyesque and reaganesque themes. harris: i want to ask you about those, some of criticism of make america great again, what part of history do you go back to? is it about that or does that mean something different? >> the big picture is put america first, put americans first, get them back to work where they're earning a decent paycheck. make streets and neighborhoods safe. harris: illegal immigration. >> that is kind of america we used to grow up with. sandra: governor huckabee, let's talk details on the speech tonight, teleprompter, go

off-the-cuff which he has been strong all along. >> let's hope not. sandra: you hope not? >> he needs to be on message. tell you what he should do. take donald trump, jr.'s speech, load it in the prompter and read that one. i was on the air other night when he spoke, with trish regan. i turned her at end. speech we may have nominated wrong donald trump. that was a great speech. and he laid out, i thought, beautifully the reasons for donald trump's presidency. i think if donald trump goes with that kind of passion, energy and clarity, he could be the next president and take this away. harris: you know he stepped on to the stage last night to end ted cruz's moment, if you will. and then he had another moment with mike pence. and just kind of their body language. you've been in those big moments on big stages. tell me what you were thinking when you saw donald trump walk up? >> well the air kiss was a little awkward. let's face it. that was --

meghan: harris loved that moment. harris: i love love, no matter what. >> i do think there is a good chemistry. i think it's a good balance. that is interesting. mike pence did a masterful job last night. such tension in the room and he walked up there and owned that room in a very tough environment after what ted cruz had done. harris: with humor. >> ted cruz laid an egg. mike pence made an omelette out of it. harris: you have a lot of those. >> full of them. full of a lot of stuff. harris: fox news is the place to be for all day, all evening coverage of the finale of the republican national convention. 4:00 p.m. eastern "outnumbered" wants to be your fnc digital hangout. find us across all platforms at on the web page, foxnews.com/outnumbered, facebook live and all fox news apps. wow. hang out with us at 4:00 p.m. eastern on the web. governor mike pence, stepping into the spotlight, not an easy stage to get on last night.

the vice-presidential nomination, making the case for donald trump and against hillary clinton. did he deliver? we'll talk about it. ivanka trump being handed one of the biggest jobs of the convention to help her dad win over female voters. what we can expect from her speech tonight. stay with us. we are live in cleveland and loving it. ♪ you don't let anything keep you sidelined.

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♪ sandra: indiana governor mike pence accepting what he called the awesome privilege of being the vice-presidential nominee, delivering one of the convention's key speeches introduce himself to the american people as quote a christian a conservative and a republican in that order. and as a man from humble beginnings. >> for those of you who don't know me which is most of you, i grew up on the front row of the american dream. my grandfather emigrated to this country. i was raised in a small town in southern indiana, in a big family with a cornfield in the backyard. although we weren't really a political family the heroes of my youth were president john f. kennedy and the reverend

dr. martin luther king, jr. [applause] sandra: governor pence going on to blast hillary clinton on a range of issues and making the case for donald trump as the next commander-in-chief. >> you know the choice couldn't be more clear. americans can elect someone who literally personifies the failed establishment in washington, d.c., or we can choose a leader who will fight every day to make america great again. [applause] it is change versus status quo. and my fellow republicans, when donald trump becomes president of the united states of america, the change will be huge! [cheering] sandra: governor, what did you, go back to that sort of self-deprecating humor he launched with, to those that may not know me. what did you make of that? >> i loved it. it was a way to introduce

himself as humble servant guy. he is on a ticket with a guy known for his self-deprecating humor. oh, he is not. that is not something you will see out of donald trump. that role is played by mike pence. he played it beautifully. i thought he won the hearts of people watching. >> he may have won hearts but did he win over any new voters? did he expand the tent. >> i love the moment with his mother, when his mother came on stage to give him a kiss. she was so adorable. donald trump had to achieve two things with selection of vice president. he had to reassure voters. he is something of a unknown quantity. he had to stablize his candidacy and somebody who knows how to govern. trump has never done it before. mike pence fits bill in both situations. i can't tell you how many folks have been emailing, tweeting me, this reassures me going forward. i always liked donald trump. i was inclined to vote for him but i feel much better about the ticket. sandra: was this uniting moment

everybody hoped to be? meghan: i liked mike pence speech as well. opening with self-deprecating humor is a great move. i liked his speech. i appreciate him more as vice-presidential pick than i did previously. i think the narrative is the all about ted cruz. hardcore politicos that did enjoyed the speech. right now majority of people are talking about ted cruz. sandra: not to mention ted cruz went a bit longer and pushed pence into the night. harris: he went 23 minutes. 13 minutes over. if donald trump had not tried to step on that how many longer he would have talked. endorsement was not clearly coming. monica, you talked about newt gingrich. what mike pence had to do specifically difficult because what ted cruz has done. how did newt gingrich play a roll making it easier for governor pence? >> gingrich was perfect intermediary voice between what

ted cruz did that night. ted cruz was bigger than moment. the rest of his speech was excellent. he talked about liberty and freedom. if he had stuck to the themes we wouldn't have controversy today. putting gingrich as buffer between the two of them i think was really important move. gingrich blew the lid off the arena last night. he spoke in broad themes. he spoke about restoring america to its foundational principles. he touted donald trump. and he, of all people, and i think probably most surprising to newt gingrich, he was unifying figure last night. as soon as he stood on stage, he made that comment about ted cruz saying look, there is only one candidate here, who will stand up and fight for the constitution and that is donald trump. he saved ted cruz from his own comments and brought the room together. it is really important. meghan: he lightened the tone. he is so quick on his feet. a brilliant man in so many different ways.

he eases the mood of the room going with mike pence. harris: from your perspective with governor pence last night, did he deliver enough meat an substance of policy and all that? clearly that part of it wasn't totally his job, but did he do enough? >> oh, i think he did. he made it very clear he understands what washington is like and at the state level. one of the next challenges of the next president reinstituting understanding of a federalism. we're united states of america. we're not one big monolithic federal government. that is where we've been drifting past 100 years, desperately so. it hurt this country. i think that is one of the great things he will bring to the ticket and america. sandra: job of introducing donald trump himself tonight is going to his daughter ivanka. what she needs to do to help her father win over female voters. cleveland on high alert after protests on day three got violent.

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♪ harris: after two days of relative calm tensions are surging on the streets of cleveland on day three of the republican convention. we saw that, especially when a protester burned an american flag. [shouting] >> back up. harris: the demonstrator setting fire to the flag outside of the security barrier near quicken loans arena before police moved it and put it out, that fire. 18 people were arrested in scuffles between pro and anti-trump protesters. two officers suffered minor injuries. now city on heightened state of alert, ahead of donald trump's big speech tonight, officially accepting public republican nomination for president. steve harrigan is live on public square. it is about 15 minutes from where we're sitting at convention center, steve?

there are a lot of people behind you. reporter: harris, crowds are beginning to pick up today. it has been very quiet this morning. but protesters now beginning to get started. yesterday was really first busy day for the police we saw them in action. big event was an attempted flag burning, a man and woman both trying to set the flag on fire after alerting media. 500 cameras were trailing them. that attempt was unsuccessful. the man actually set himself partially on fire. he was doused by extinguishers by firefighters. 18 arrests overall, including two people punched police officers and arrested for felonies. no one injured in that event. as far as media bows we've heard complaints daily basis from the police chief of cleveland, calvin williams, saying the media outnumbers protesters and many times people with cameras are getting in way of officers trying to do their jobs. >> our job is a lot more difficult, yes, yes.

sorry, i mean, we get there we have 20 protesters. probably 80 people from the media there. we are trying to separate to get a handle what is going on. we have more media than protesters. reporter: overall throughout the week just 23 arrests. overall a lot of anticipation for tonight. many here, especially police officers hoping that cleveland comes out of this with a good reputation. some really excellent police work. sophisticated, calm so far. harris, back to you. harris: it is interesting to hear him say, steve, the media outnumber protesters. steve, thank you very much. meghan: a lot of speculation that donald trump may have a secret weapon in his daughter ivanka, who has impressed many observers with her poise during the campaign. she is set to introduce her dad tonight at rnc where her goal won't be just to show he is a warm family man and also a friend to women she made the

case to sean hannity last night. watch. >> my father doesn't think in terms of demographic. he thinks in terms of the person. so when meets somebody he thinks about are they capable? do they have drive? do they have passion. do they have vision. he looks for the same quality in everyone. so it's completely irrelevant to someone what their gender is. he never played into stereotypes. >> yeah. >> as long as we were interested, he always wanted us to be around. i grew up walking construction jobs by his side. meghan: so i believe in the power of daughters for a lot of different reasons. harris: good point. meghan: what are we looking forward to i have have you been can trump's speech. one of the things i love about governor huckabee, your daughter sarah, did amazing ground game for him in '08 in iowa and helped single-handedly your win. she has potential to warm up

donald trump and make him relatable to a lot of young woman. to some degree i did it with my father. i think she has a lot of potential tonight. >> i think you're exactly right. ivanka trump is in very important position. for people who think donald trump is unfair to women or he is harsh or whatever, she has such a charm about her. she is amazing person. all of his children are incredible. one of the things that gave me a sense of comfort about donald trump being the nominee was being around his family, not on stage but backstage. anybody can go out there, meghan, we've seen politician families. dot happy wave and never speak to each other. this is a family really bondedded. this is really wonderful family. i think we're going to see that tonight. harris: monica, one. people we heard from aside from ivanka, one of the executives that runs the trump foundation. she was fiery, and talked about diversity and her experiences as person of color inside of trump

organization. i'm curious with ivanka tonight though, what do you think people need to hear about women with regard to donald trump? what sells it? >> i think ivanka trump who is absolutely dynamite, i think she is not so secret weapon actually. will accomplish three things, harris. she has got to warm up her father. she has to humanize him which all children do. she has i think reach women in a way perhaps the executives can't or female governors or senator joni ernst who gave a great speech earlier in the week. she can reach, especially younger women. this is the third part of her mission. yes to reach women and reassure them that her father is not the caricature that the press and left made him out to be. to reach especially younger women and younger voters more generally. that is the mission of all the trump children this week, reach younger voters, millenials, meghan's age, who when you look at poll after poll on issues, they're essentially libertarian. they want government out of

their lives. so they are essentially with republicans and conservatives. when ask them how they vote, democrat, of course, because it is hip or it is cool. i think ivanka can go a long way reaching younger voters to at least get them to take second look at her father and republican party. sandra: beyond just being a woman and a mother of three young children, she's a businesswoman and i have sat down and spoken with her on several occasions as business journalist, talked to her about her shoe line, her handbag line, her jewelry line and helping run her father's company. she is extremely competent, eloquent, articulate woman. she is a great, she is definitely got the ear of her father but tiffany trump, the other night, monica, went a long way humanizing her father. remember the moment she said i love to bring my friend home from college who think my dad is this cold businessman and they realize he is this warm man who is fun and. harris: funny.

sandra: and funny. but they're obviously doing wonders for their father. >> the thing i find most amazing about the trump children, all of them, is not that they're well-educated, we expect that or they're accomplished because they almost have to, he wouldn't let them be anything else. they're humble and gracious and courteous. meghan: everybody says that. >> very much at ease who they are. that is what i think more charming about them than any accomplishment they had is their personality. harris: governor pence had a great line, you can't fake great kids. that applies to his children as well as trump kids. >> absolutely. meghan: i'm curious to see what she will wear. it is one of the things i really like about donald trump and ivanka trump. harris: that is interesting. you're talking about looking cool. they're successful. can they make success look cool? meghan: i guess we'll see tonight. dominant theme at republican convention this week attacking

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if she were anymore on the inside, she'd be in prison. [cheers and applause] america deserves better than hillary clinton! harris: vice-presidential nominee mike pence did not hold back either. >> you know, it was hillary clinton who helped undo all the gains of the troop surge. a staggering failure of judgment that set isis on the loose. it was hillary clinton who instigated the president's disasterous agreement with the radical mullahs in iran. and it was hillary clinton who left americans harm's way in benghazi and after four americans fell, said, what difference at this point does it make? harris: some left wondering

whether it will be enough in november. governor your thoughts. >> i thought attacks on hillary, right at the right time. it has been about bashing hillary clinton. are you kidding me. that is what we do at conventions. we beat the other side up. what are they expecting us to do? say nice, warm cuddly things about hillary? of course we're not. we're going to tell the truth about her. that is what we've done. harris: when you look at these, nothing got personal last night. it was against her t was really taking a licking and you like some of the zingers. it is about what has been going on. nothing personal about her. >> that's right. all the folks, rudy giuliani, chris christie, scott walker, newt gingrich, all the folks who attacked mrs. clinton last night will be excellent surrogate in the ticket in terms of being attack dogs. as important as it is to attack the opponent and attack the other side. tough offer voters a positive, compelling reason to vote for

you, rather than just against your opponent. voting is as much an emotional act, as it is an intellectual one. that what we'll hear from donald trump. reaganesque type of themes. meghan: i loved it. time i always love donald trump the most when he is going after hillary clinton. harris: say it. that is the donald trump you can vote for. meghan: i liked chris christie's speech. i think we were light on her. am i only one that said we can go after her even harder. she should be in jail. the benghazi mother that spoke, pat, forgot her name, smith. of all moments that resonated me how intense and important the election is. we may have have inpart fighting but our nominee is not felon and responsible for people's death. sandra: criticism of that speech as we talked about on the show he was talking to the audience in the room, rather than reaching out to voters that are undecided. meghan: dnc, i can't even imagine things said about donald trump and republicans

next week. all things considered they could have hit her harder as far as i'm concerned. harris: what is the goal? obviously you have people in the room. as we saw last night, they're loving the nominee. some of them were quiet and loving other people in the room, but what is the goal? is that the audience? or is there bigger awareness? >> remember politics is both offense and defense. like football. you can't win the game if you only have offensive team. you can't win it if you have only defensive team. you have to play both sides of the football. part of the goal being on offense and attack hillary clinton and give america your positions and reason to support you. the question, do you have a good offensive coach and defensive coach that your game is balanced and go on the attack the right way, to make it happen. harris: we'll move on, pc police, never get tired do they? apparently they're expanding their territory, from the beat in the classroom, to the republican convention. one pricey college, reportedly is offering a safe space for

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sandra: more "outnumbered" ohio style in just a moment. first we go to new york where jon scott is coming up in the second hour of "happening now." hey, jon. >> hey, harris, the final night of the republican convention as you well know. donald trump could be set to deliver one of the most important speeches of his life. after exciting couple of days in cleveland, we'll have analysis of last night and look ahead to what mr. trump needs to do tonight. we'll have more on the fallout from ted cruz's speech. he was booed last night after failing to endorse mr. trump. he is not backing down today. plus, speculation intensifying at this hour over hillary clinton's choice to be her vice-presidential running mate. the latest whispers and roars as we get closer to a decision that could come within the next 24 hours. that is all ahead, "happening now." just a couple of minutes. harris: whispers and roars. sounds like a drinking establishment. good to see you, jon. >> thank you. harris: sandra: what is on your mind? friday.

apparently the pc police are also out in force in cleveland during the rnc. a nearby university, case western reserve, is providing a safe space and counseling for students upset about the convention. and the decision to house officers on campus, who are guarding the event. now some folks responding on the university's facebook page saying, one wrote, this is what happens when you don't spank your kids and force them to develop a backbone. another writing, good luck in the real world with that, snowflake. okay. governor you are shaking your head. >> my gosh, it is 60,000 bucks a year to go to this college. if i'm a parent, paying that kind of money i will want diapers provided for my little darling who can't handle the real world. look, yank the kid out of college. put him back in kinder garthen and wait until he grows up before you spend that kind of money for education, seriously. harris: sandra: let me play devil's

advocate. you could be 17, 18 years old, freshman at university. seeing security and guns and officers. meghan: you know what my brother was doing in seven teen? serving in the marines in iraq. >> there you go. meghan: ridiculous. harris: say the devil's advocate might be? sandra: maybe they're uncomfortable. this isn't my view, i'm just asking. could you be uncomfortable and need a safe space? meghan: if you're uncomfortable with political discourse and people coming into your city, that is what is wrong with the world right now. >> the world is a unsafe space. we're getting a good chuckle. the point this is really dangerous for america. first of all we're sending a whole generation into the real world totally ill equipped to deal with any kind of normal pain in life. but also the ease which these universities and some others are willing to just to throw out the first amendment, say you can't have the freedom of speech in our little safe zone here

because it might offend somebody? that is really dangerous for this republic. >> i'm missing the '60s. i'm sorry, college campuses used to be a place where people went so they could disagree, with different point of view, not have a little safe space to get away from halloween costume that scared them. harris: i think what my dad would say. honey if you're scared, it won't be any safer here. we'll talk about anything. sandra: from my cab driver, he says very fancy kids. they come from money. as you mentioned, governor, $60,000 a year to go there but they are very smart kids. many of them are studying medicine and go on to be doctors at cleveland clinic. harris: part of being intelligent is being able to handle things as they're in flux, dealing with difficult people, situations that are not in your comfort zone. you might be smart but intelligence to me is being able to solve the puzzle of life. >> it is about maturity. about being a green up.

about being an adult able to function in the world and we're so coddling these kids, some of them come out with great sense of entitlement and totally unable to function. sandra: here we go. harris: there is our train for the hour. they waited though of the that's amazing. executive producer jay, often goes like this. they honk back at us. sandra: we got one during the commercial break. it was fun. more "outnumbered" just a moment. we're leaving the stage for a minute hey diddle diddle, the cat and the fiddle, the cow jumped over the moon... then quickly fell back to earth landing on the roof of a dutch colonial. luckily geico recently helped the residents with homeowners insurance. they were able to get the roof repaired like new. they later sold the cow because they had all become lactose intolerant. call geico and see how much you could save on homeowners insurance.

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♪ harris: i feel like the rockettes. sandra: but thank you so much to everybody. >> a lot of fun to be with you guys. be sure to go to the rock and roll hall of fame. awesome place. cleveland rocks. harris: food is amazing. we had great food. sandra: people here are awesome. thank you, cleveland. thanks to our whole crew. harris: how does it feel? >> my maiden voyage. very smooth. harris: normally about this time there is loud train goes by. they gave as you break. a great thing to have you. >> really pleasure to be with you guys. harris: 4:00 p.m. eastern,fnc digital hangout.

more "outnumbered." sandra: "outnumbered" live in till definitely next week for the dnc. harris: we'll see you tomorrow. have a great day. "happening now" starts now.