a.m. final word from karl rove? >> next week watch how much they attack, do they spend more time attacking trump or extolling hillary clinton? >> they're going to extol hillary clinton. >> all right, we'll leave it there. great panel, representing "morning futures." i'm maria bartiromo. see you on "fox business." we are live in philadelphia, at the democratic convention, where hillary clinton and her new running mate tim kaine will be ready to counter the republicans' week in cleveland, the face of new and embarrassing emails hack of the dnc, shattering the facade of party un unity. clinton's announcement most of the media portrayed as a badly managed mess and the prime time speech negative reviews from the press mostly and the pundits. >> i will tell you the plain facts that have been edited out of your nightly news and your morning newspaper. >> what donald trump did tonight is a disgrace.

he was describing some "mad max" america. >> this wasn't the shining city on the hill, this wasn't morning in america. he sounded like a war time president last night. >> very dark. >> the republican party that i worked for, for two decades, died in this room tonight. we are now represented as a party by a man who believes in protectionism, isolationism, and nativeism. >> that was his as impassioned as i've seen him period and focus. he had a message and it got across. >> did you think it was dark? >> i thought it was an optimistic speech to me. >> what makes it optimistic? >> because we're going to solve the problems. >> the big story today, wikileaks has dumped nearly 20,000 hack e-mails from the dnc. they show party officials trying to spin journalists and how some treated bernie sanders with utter disdain. cfo brad marshall writing in may talking about bernie sanders can we get someone to ask his belief? does he believe in a god? he skated on saying he has a jewish heritage. i think i read he is an atheist. joining us to analyze the

convention coverage in philadelphia, tucker carlson, co-host of "fox & friends" weekends and editor of "the daily caller" and kirsten powers from "usa today" and james rosen, fox's chief washington correspondette. also the events surrounding the resignation of chairman roger els in a moment. tucker, why is the press not going utterly haywire over the leaked emails that what they said they were trashing hillary? >> it confirms what the bernie sanders people have been saying for months. the question i asked myself this last year, when did the press see it as their role to protect? they identity with hillary clinton, same assumptions and bernie sanders this weird elderly guy with nose hair they don't relate to him at all and in the end their gut instincts kicked in and they're on her

team. that's my personal view. can't prove it. >> dnc official marshall apologized and debbie wasserman schultz is not going to speak at this convention because she is a divisive symbol. i don't see on the front page of the "new york times" and "washington post." i searched the "new york times" home page and found it at the bottom of some menu, should this be a bigger story? >> it should be. i suspect they'll be pressured in to covering it. what is the explanation for it? it's a huge story. you had the bernie sanders people making this accusation for the entire election season demanding she step down, saying hillary should basically get rid of her, and now they have it in black and white. it's incontrovertible. i think it was before that the dnc was carrying water for hillary. now there's no getting around it. >> it was obvious in the debate zedu u schedules and everything else and the disparaging way.

i don't like hacked emails, every organization has them. the press is describing the democratic party as being together, unity, a great four days in philadelphia. does this really crack that? >> they had a fight over the big roll of superdelegates. the sanders wanted their power constrained and the clinton folks were fighting that. it's clear the wikileaks e-mails had cast a sinister poll across the entire thing and robbie mook and jeff sanders had gone south because of the wikileaks e-mails. >> there are journalists in the emails. ken vogel sent a copy to the dnc before the story with his note "per agreement, let me know if you have anything to push back on" and then the dnc official said, i, i, he shared this ahead

of time, let me know, talking to somebody else. let me know if you see anything missing and i'll push back. >> there are circumstances under which reporters see fit to share their copy with a source sprir to submitting it to their editors, want to make sure they're getting it right. i know ken vogel. he has a specialty in the role of money and politics. the broader takeaway, andy warhol said famously in the future everyone will be famous for 15 minutes. my addendum is yes and in the 16th minute everyone becomes richard in additinixon, all you emails and texts and you're crucified on that basis, welcome ken vogue. >> ken made an agreement to confirm facts and figures in a complex story about campaign finance, politico doesn't officially do that, nor does ken but in this circumstance did to make sure we had it right. you're laughing. you're in one of the emails.

>> i am where they're attacking me i'm proud to say. i'm not attacking ken vogel. he carries water for hillary every day. i've been flat out rooting for hillary clinton so maybe this was legitimate and their coverage is or not. >> i think sometimes reporters do this to make sure they're getting it right. i write a column on occasion i've done this, if it's something that involves complex legal arguments or something and you want to make sure. i will say i'm not changing anything for opinion, but if you have a substantive issue factual, and 99% of the time no one has anything to say so on occasion this happens. >> also fascinating debbie wasserman schultz complaining to chuck todd about the kris simple from mika brzienski. it didn't happen. they don't like criticism from the press on the democratic side any more than the republican. let's move to donald trump.

start with the speech. the media pretty much savaged the speech, too dark, too scary, fear mongering. it wasn't a usual speech, it was or anti-trump sentiment? >> obviously the latter. trump explained what he thinks. you don't have to agree with anything but how nicer to a candidate to lay out his views. he's terrible explaining what he thinks. he's on some tangent tacking some irrelevant person. finally 90 minutes of trump laying out trump's philosophy. i was struck nobody assessed that, it was all on the aesthetics of i live in a rich neighborhood and everything is fine. what the hell is he talking about? so out of touch but also so childish in their analysis. is what he said true or not? they didn't address it. >> some of the liberal commentators, really harsh, they called the trump un-american speech and fox news contributor tamara holder likened it to a speech by hitler in 1931. >> whenever you bring hitler up

you're a lost argument, but i do think that it's appropriate for people who are opinion people to say the kinds of things a lot of reporters were saying. some of the reporters were getting a little too biased. i think that you need to do the best that you can to try to like tucker said analyze it on the face of it instead of sort of casting it in this really uniformly, i mean everybody kind of said the same thing, and it was just sort of interesting that everybody was saying exactly what all the liberal commentators thought of his speech. personally i agreed with them but i think there's another perspective on it and a lot of people in the country who feel what he was describing is true. i'm not one of them, but there are a lot of people certainly in our hall who agree with them. >> i think trump delivered a tough speech and that's what he intended to do. and i think throughout this campaign we're seeing it more and more now especially with the influence of some consultants in his corner, a distinct effort to try to conjure richard nixon 1968, i'm the law and order

candidate, appealing to the silent majority. >> that presses a red button for journalists who think of nixon as 1973 watergate scandal breaking the law. >> sure. almost whatever trump said and did on that stage, on that night, was going to be criticized by the preponderance of the media which skews left. i would say that it was a missed opportunity for trump in one respect and similar to the missed opportunity that for ted cruz at the convention, which is there is a place in these appearances for humor. humor can go a long way. i happen to think if ted cruz had said i was reminiscing with my dad about his role in the kennedy assassination, they were looking at the family album, the nation"national enquirer." trump should have used some of his more trademark humor in the speech. >> the media's shorthand was midnight in america, play on the old reagan and is it going to go on 'til midnight because it was a lengthy speech. ted cruz what an enormous explosion of coverage when we gave that fiery speech, got

booed off the stage, didn't endorse donald trump. here is a brief take. >> what was out of line politically and historically was for ted cruz to basically snub the candidate for president. >> last night what cruz delivered was the longest suicide note in american political history. >> ted cruz got what he wanted, a lot of coverage in the next morning press conference and the cable news networks took it live. from his point of view, he is in the spotlight. >> it's dangerous in trying to get the short term payoff. i think he thinks in the long-term payoff but i don't think he's going to get a long-term payoff. i think it's short term and i hope he enjoyed it as long as it lasted. >>ment so of the trump people loved it. usually they say you're making too much of this in the media. keep covering it. they thought the speech, the booing and everything cast trump almost in a sympathetic light for allowing cruz to speak even

though he was like the guest at the dinner party and drinks all the wine. >> he overshadowed trump's son and running mate. i don't think viewers at home understand when you watch the different networks and everyone's saying exactly the same thing, the reason is they're all on twitter. go to visit a set, every anchor is on twitter and commentator is on twitter, they all sound the same. >> are you suggesting group think? >> it's exacerbated by social media. if i were giving advice for a pundit, stop and move to new zealand. people who want to do it, don't go on social media because you sound like a robot. you sound like every other dumb person. >> the advice i give is make your parents send you to pundit camp early on, and then do interpundit internships during college years. >> become an aca. >> pointing in the wrong direction. so there were a lot of stories in advance of the cleveland convention. politico had gop operatives dredged from the convention, the

"new york times" said gop officials brace for chaos in cleveland. did that set a certain narrative which then when the convention happened and there were things that went wrong, there were mistangs and mishaps in timing, there was the minority trying to get a vote to change the rules, shouted down, that that narrative, would it become a self-fulfilling prophecy? >> this was a very contentious primary'son. it was natural to expect it would be a contentious convention. one has to say they put this whole thing together in about four weeks. it's never been done in anything under five and they did a fairly good job and came off very well in most respects. i do think that there was some dread and we did see it play out on that floor. i was told as a reporter you will never cover an exciting convention in your life and guess what? we had one. >> media forget trump ran against the republican establishment, that's why many members still don't like him. back in philadelphia in a couple of moments, you can email us, or twitter. hillary clinton her new running

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the press loves elizabeth warren. seemed to get excited about tim kaine, experienced senator former governor from virginia. he's not exciting, describes himself as boring. >> ends up coming out and doing a great speech and impressed a lot of progressives and people in the media. web you have low expectations and you come out and do something more than what people were expecting you get good coverage. >> i happen to think tim kaine and mike pence are serious and solid choices. >> yes. >> for their running mates, but it seemed like the coverage of mike pence focused much more on finding differences between him and donald trump, and the craziness of the whole veepstakes process. do you see a difference in tone or do you think -- >> mike pence is evangelical, there's nothing more repulsive and terrifying in our world than an evangelical. >> why? the press doesn't like

evangelicals? >> hates them. this has been framed as hating trump as a moral contest. it's you're evil and i'm virtuous. that tone has been adopted by the press. if you read "the washington post," my hometown paper, six stories in a row yesterday in top news stories attacking trump. they have taken on as their moral mission to describe this guy and prevent him from becoming president. >> what struck me also was the relentless and hyperactive coverage of trump's selection process, which went through a lot of twists and turns. it was newt, no, chris christie. hillary clinton sent it out by text and gave a good speech. >> it did leak. >> no drama? >> the media are invested in the vp pick as a quadrennial exercise that is lucrative and fun, but we all in the back of our minds know that it is not dispositive toward electoral

success in any way. so that's the kind of dishonesty we all engage in. who is it going to be? by the way it doesn't matter, but who is it going to be? we play the games. i say when you have tim kaine and mike pence, the sizzle there, i wonder if las vegas would even be willing to take bets on who will win that debate because it will be such a snooze fest it will make cheney/lieberman look like the ultimate fighter event. >> if you want to do investigative reporting, governor and lieutenant governor tim kaine accepted $160,000 in gifts, perfectly legal but lots of money for a caribbean vacation and clothing. you could focus on the fact that because the press loves to write about abortion and republicans, while he supports pro choice he said he's personally as a catholic opposed to abortion. i see little of that or it's played down and also against the death. ality. >> i don't think democrats care if you're pro-life as long as you don't want to stop abortion.

>> and if trump is the same way? >> it's not what we think about it, more what they're voting for. is there hip yisy because the democrats don't like pro-life people. if you support row e v. wade an people don't do anything to challenge it people leave you along. harry reid is pro life. >> kaine supported free trade and hillary clinton and now slipped and against the transpacific partnership. i'm saying if we wanted to make an issue about the things there's plenty of stuff to dig there >> nobody in the press knows what the transpacific partnership is, way too complicated. >> tucker you're taking the fun out of it. >> you can say whatever you want, if you're for abortion, if i work for harrah's i can't say i'm anti-gambling. >> thanks very much for joining us in philadelphia. coming up we look at the other big story this week, involves fox news and change at the top of this company.

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role of acting ceo. ailes will be available as a consultant to murdoch. the announcement by 21st century fox filed a sexual harassment suit by gretchen carlson. ailes strongly denied the allegations in the suit. 21st century fox hired a law firm to conduct an internal inquiry and that was followed by leaks to the press. i can confirm reports that a number of female fox employees who were interviewed for the internal review made allegations of inappropriate conduct. megyn kelly, also cooperating, has not discussed reports that she alleged improper conduct taking place about a decade ago. ailes has denied her allegations saying, "he spent much of the last ten years helping her achieve the stardom she earned." murdoch placed ailes in a statement for having made "a remarkable contribution to our company and our country." there are words of praise for ailes have murdoch's sons, james and lachland, top executives at

fox and reporters at odds with ailes. without referring to harassment they say "we continue to maintain our work environment based on trust and respect." many were struck by how quickly ailes' departure was arranged. >> it is surprising in some ways because some of the allegations have been around for a very long time, some of them for decades, many decades so the fact that it all came together within two weeks is rather stunning. >> some high profile anchors at fox defended ailes in an interview saying they could not imagine him engaging in inappropriate conduct. fox news contributor kirsten powers told the "new york times" "i was disappointed that so many senior members of fox's on-air team rushed to defend roger in a way that seemed to prejudge an investigation into sexual harassment." nearly everyone regardless of their views agreed that ailes' impact was hard to overstate. >> when people talk about "the conservative media" and the media environment we live in,

particularly political media it is largely the creation of rodge roger ailes. >> fox news has been a part of our dialogue and the fox news roger ailes created. i think our political dialogue changes somewhat without roger ailes. >> that remains to be seen. murdoch left the top executive team in place. let me be blunt. this has been a painful and embarrassing period for the network but the news operation of the 76-year-old ailes built remains in place. coming up next, they were with me in cleveland and here in philadelphia, bill hemmer and martha mccallum, on a tale of could conventions in a moment.

a look ahead at the hillary clinton convention here in philadelphia and the coverage of donald trump convention, after our week in cleveland.

joining me now are bill hemmer and martha mccallum the anchors of "america's newsroom" in our sky box looking cool. we spent a week together in ohio, here we are in pennsylvania. it's no secret donald trump and his convention got critical scrutiny from the media, how much of hillary and the democrats up until now seemed to lack the same intensity. your thoughts? >> i think that will change, howie. but i do believe this. as long as we're in the prediction business. >> right. >> there will be half an eye on this convention hall for the next four days and half an eye on donald trump. you don't know what he will do in terms of communication, appearances or tweets. very unpredictable, and just like we saw at the tail end ted cruz speech in cleveland, ohio, his appearance inside the arena took the carpet underneath of ted cruz. what will he do? that's one thing you need to watch. the other thing evare the protesters. this place blew up 16 years ago when the republicans came here for their convention.

they will be out in force much more significant than cleveland, ohio, and my third hunch this wednesday all the matter about bernie sanders will be behind the dnc and hillary clinton. >> i think you're right about that. when you look at the sort of gsh -- sorry, howard, we have a little bit of ai delay and working out the kinks. we sat down on this set brand new just a few minutes. i think you'll see the democratic national committee shift to a lighter more optimistic tone, they're hinging upon the idea and the theme that it was a very dark convention for the rnc and they're going to try to be more optimistic but they have to play that off of hillary clinton's record and really the true state of how things are in the world right now, even the president chimed in and said it was a dark convention and that it portrayed sort of dangerous world, and what we found in cleveland is that a lot of people do feel that they live in a dangerous world, so they're going to try to counter balance that message here in philadelphia.

>> martha, pick up on bill's point we're likely to have almost a split screen experience with donald trump still making news while the democrats gather here in philadelphia. during the cleveland convention, there really wasn't much hillary. she came back on saturday with her pick of tim kaine. what does that tell about the news business? doesn't donald trump still drive ratings and clicks even when it's not his week to have a convention? >> yes. it's kind of one of the benefits of going first in a way because you have' already laid down your markers and set your theme. so they're going to try to reinforce that theme over and over. the rnc has been sending out e-mails, last week it was interesting because the dnc was sending out a lot of stuff and one point they sent out a list of the speakers for the rnc and had everything crossed off except some of the people that we saw to sort of send the message that they hadn't been successful in lining up the speakers they wanted to rnc. there's also the effort going on, but at least donald trump already has his in the bag and he can react to what's going on here in philadelphia, and no

doubt he'll do that. he did this morning with his tweets and social media that we always see from him. >> and bill, what about the story that's really kind of starting to bubble up this weekend about the 20,000 hacked dnc emails including embarrassing comments and trash talking bernie sanders leading to the point that debbie wasserman schultz the party chair is not going to speak at her own convention. is that going to scramble the storyline for the press compared to what we thought it was 48 hours ago? >> i don't think it's good for the it, nc or debbie wasserman schultz. bernie sanders has been breathing down her neck for months. he wants her out. i'm not suggesting she will be out, but we understand she won't be speaking. there were some reports already this morning that the position she has to pro side over this convention will no longer last. if that's the case just like republicans perhaps had a few distractions on monday and

tuesday, i expect the same for the dnc. this will not start smoothly. we know that already, howie. >> martha, the way in which the press largely covered donald trump's speech, dark, some called him a demagogue, a lot of fear, weren't a lot of light moments. does it appear journalists and some pundits talk about donald trump different than any other candidate in the past? there are differences including his outsider status obviously. >> i think they do. i mean, i this i nk in a way he opens himself up to that because of the in a nature of his tweets. the fact that the whole country already sort of knows him in the reality show tv show from "the apprentice" and all of that. the gloves have been off for a long time between the press and donald trump and it feels that it's okay to jump on him, it's okay to put him in a framework that is definitely more sort of belligerent in an open way by many in the press. so it's a challenge to cover all of this in a very fair way, and

to listen to what each candidate is saying, and to hold them accountable for what they're promising in these speeches and kind of let that bigger picture fall to the wayside and stick to the facts of what each party is presenting, and you know, web i was driving in here there's a big billboard saying "hillary we have your back" love the media, as if it was a post-it note to her as she came in to philadelphia. >> from the rnc. >> exactly. >> i would add to that, howie, i think the rnc, republican voters care a lot about that. i don't think donald trump cares about it. when he sent his tweet out last week talking about melania's speech. if you believe all press is good press, and i think that's what he lives by, as long as people are talking about him, he feels that he's winning the day. >> that tweet hailed it and naturally you two did as well. you'll be anchoring a two-hour coverage from philadelphia at the top of the hour, and since you've been so nice to me, i might wander over there and join you. >> please do. >> we look forward to it. thanks, howie. >> see you.

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melania trump speech were very good until hours later when journalists played over and over again passages that seemed plangiarized from the current first lady's convention eight years ago. >> barack and i were raised with so many values. >> from my young age my parents impressed on me the values. >> you work hard for what you want in life. >> that you work hard for what you want in life. >> that your word is your bond, that you do what you're say you're going to do. >> that your work is your bond and you do what you say and keep your promise. >> but in a series of tv interviews, paul man afford refused to admit the words and phrases had been taken from michelle obama's speech fueling a media uproar. >> what happens when you're running the government of the united states and you don't want to deal with what happens then? >> well, chris, it's all in the eye of the beholder. the pattern i see is the media not being prepared to look at

what's really going on in america, look at what's really happening in the trump campaign. >> i can't move on because you keep lying about it so i can't move on. >> i'm not lying about anything. >> i have to talk about what is true. did the language, did a portion of the language of that speech come from michelle obama's speech? yes or no. >> as far as we're concerned there are similar words used. >> they are making the candidate's wife take the fall, even leaking to the "new york times" that this was melania. >> finally a trump speechwriter said she had mistakenly added the quotes after melania read her passages she liked over michelle obama's speech over the phone. lisa booth from "the washington examiner" and republican strategist and julie ruggin ski, democratic strategist and fox news contributor.

chris cuomo wouldn't move on but paul manaford wouldn't either. >> i think julie is quick on her feet. >> no way, never. >> look, clearly there are similarities there, and they should have just admitted it and moved on especially considering the fact they eventually did admit it. coverage was obsessive. 1987, joe biden had to drop out of a presidential race because of a plagiarism scandal. back to 2008 and president obama lifted thing from governor duvall's speeches as well. so i mean look, this kind of stuff happens in campaigns. >> from governor deval patrick? >> yes. >> i think it would be more impactful as donald trump himself as opposed to the candidate's wife but the coverage was excessive and borderline ridiculous in my opinion. >> you may want to push back on that. my view was that it was a small

to medium deal. it wasn't huge. what made the story huge go on for three days was that the campaign didn't say anything happened. it's like let's play the tape again and again. >> no question. the reason you have this obsessed media coverage and you're so right about that is because the campaign handled it, if. you make a mistake with the press the first rule of any good campaign, the press ink by the barrel, now we have 24 hours a day cable news television to fill people will talk about it. they should have admitted there was a mistake, fired whoever they needed to fire and moved on. we would have moved on, but by extending the story, her saying melania had written it herself which was a huge disservice to her and then by saying there are no similarities, of course there were similarities and then continuing to go on and on for a few days and only then having some woman who worked for the trump organization not the campaign come out and say i'm the one responsible for this. it became a three or four-day story, should have been a

one-day story. >> we'll move on. my verdict is the media probably overreacted but the campaign made sure this did not go away until wednesday of last week. it's no secret the convention in cleveland was largely panned by the mainstream media being too dark, disorganized, the ted cruz problem. was this an honest assessment of a bumpy convention or do you think there was a fair degree of anti-trump bias? >> i was watching other networks and reading the headlines and all of it was negative. there wasn't a whole lot of positive news that stemmed from it. cnn had a poll from viewers that said 75% of viewers view donald trump's speech in a positive manner but that certainly wasn't the coverage that they drove. so i think -- >> more republicans may have watched the speech than democrats when you do that poll. >> do you think the poll would be relatively objective done in real time after the speech. i certainly wouldn't see the perception you would get watching other networks and/reading various newspapers. >> the speech was on the verge

of a disaster you read but on the other hand there's been polling since that shows maybe he's flipped up a few points. it's ephemeral. didn't seem to hurt him. contrast the cleveland coverage with the coverage in philadelphia leading up to the hillary clinton convention, because up until these leak eed emails i was not saying the same level of intense cover am. >> no because hillary clinton is a cautious candidate and not a showwoman. donald trump whether you agree with him or not puts on a good show. we went to the rnc we know he's p.t. barnum, the greatest show on earth. >> boring convention and the media will -- >> can i point out one thing that's ridiculous? we have the media driving this disunity in the republican party. the own dnc chairman will not have a presence because of the wikileaks document and michael brown's mother, a man who was

shown to have robbed a bank and reached for an officer's gun speaking this week. i've not seen any covera agage that. >> timeless coverage of debbie wasserman schultz. >> i thought you were mentioning the other. >> there's tons of coverage on debbie wasserman schultz in every newspaper. >> in 20 seconds, do you think that is going to change the coloration of what might have been a scripted, boring convention and the media coverage will be looking for signs of disunity as they were in cleveland? >> if snd sbernie sanders has a signs of disunity, if if he pulls a ted cruz he'll be covered the way it was covered in cleveland. i don't think he's doing that. the democrats took it away from debbie wasserman schultz and put this to rest. they should have done this with melania and didn't. >> it's called damage control. >> exactly right. >> lisa boothe and jill thanks very much. >> thanks, howie. when we come back, somebody who has worked at a number of conventions.

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if it seems a little damp in here, we're essentially in a giant air-conditioning pen here in philadelphia. and it's pretty hot under the lights. you know what we need now? we need a democratic strategist who's, through many of these conventions. joining us now, joe trippi, fox news contributor, and former campaign manager for howard dean and a lot of other people in your party. true or false, the media love excitement and conflict and when people are butting heads and going off script. so the democratic convention compared to the republican convention in cleveland is going to be a relative snooze for the

press? >> true about that's what the press loves. and i'm i think monday night is a show, they have a little conflict, i think there will be -- i think differently than the republican convention, the democrats will try to get it all out of the way in one day. >> get their fighting out of the way? >> if there's going to be a rules vote or something like that, if you're going to put cruz on, you put him on monday, not on -- so bernie will speak on monday. i don't expect to have the same kind of conflicts that happened at the republican convention in cleveland. but if it happened, their going to try to get them all out of the way on monday, and then try to turn -- >> except hillary clinton and the democrats have this nice choreographed convention plan. and along comes wee s wikileaksi hate hacked e-mails, but 20,000 e-mails out there, and the disparaging things that wasserman schultz and others said about sanders, and as a

result, debbie wasserman schultz is not going to speak at her own convention. >> yeah, bernie and a lot of his supporters, his delegates were furious already. and this enflames it. the one thing i would say. look, if the party operatives weren't out to get you, you wouldn't be an insurgent. and in the dean campaign that i ran -- >> dean was a democrat, but kind of an outsider. >> how about this. if hillary clinton picks tim kaine, i would say that got very restrained coverage. very positive coverage. but compared to the gop, you didn't go through this whole thing, is it going to be kaine or tom sivilsack. >> two things, one, they had pretty much telegraphed it was going to be kaine for a long time. >> do you think that was deliberate? >> i think so. >> so drain the drama out of it. >> and to soften the blow to

sanders. but they're better at choreographing these things. so, you know, they didn't change their strategy, they went through with the text message to announce him and showing up in miami the next day. >> here, senator kaine is more favorable toward banking industry than is hillary clinton. he had been for free trade, has now modified his position. he's personally opposed to abortion, although he follows the pro-choice position. so why not media focus on the differences between the two of them, which is what we saw when the press picked on mike pence and what he said in opposition to donald trump. it seems like the press is going easy on kaine. >> i think kaine really is respected on both sides, as senator flake said, you couldn't come up with something bad to say about him. i do think there are differences. and look, i think the other part of this is, it's not unusual for vice presidents and presidential

nominee s to have to fix their views. >> this is a more typical rollout, where everything about the trump campaign is kind of exciting. >> look, i was really interested on who trump was going to pick or what he was gng to do. that's part of what he creates, for the media is this, you know, this whole question of what's he going to do next. >> even joe trippi is breathlessly following donald trump. all right, joe trippi, thanks very much for stopping by. some final thoughts from here in philadelphia, when we come back. managing my diabetes has been a struggle. i considered all my options with my doctor, who recommended once-daily toujeo®. now i'm on the path to better blood sugar control. toujeo® is a long-acting insulin from the makers of lantus®. it releases slowly, providing consistent insulin levels for a full 24 hours, proven full 24-hour blood sugar control, and significant a1c reduction. and along with toujeo®, i'm eating better and moving more.

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when it comes to covering conventions, stuff happens. and the media love unscripted stuff, as we saw in cleveland. sometimes we make too much of these act.

sometimes things like melania's speech keeps the story alive. sometimes a moment is so dramatic, ted cruz sticking it to trump and getting booed big-time, that the narrative is irresistible, but it drowns out other moments like the mike pence speech as the vp. what concerns me going to cleveland is all the media stories. and some media may have played that up. will they apply the same standard to hillary's convention here, especially now that those leaked dnc e-mails have reopened old wounds between the hillary and bernie forces? we'll be carefully watching the media coverage and so, i bet, will you. that's it for this special convention of media buzz, special convention edition of media buzz here in philadelphia. i'm howard kurtz. hope you like our facebook page. check us out, give it a like. write to us at mediabuzz@fox news.com. meanwhile, bill and martha coming up behind me.

they were gracious enough to join us this hour. i'll be out here all week. and we'll be back in d.c. next sunday after the democratic convention. hope to see you then with the latest buzz. all right. the stage is now set here in philadelphia. the democrats kicking off their convention tomorrow, on monday, but they do it amid some heavy controversy. a massive e-mail leak revealing party leaders apparently had their thumb on the scale for hillary clinton and against bernie sanders. as we say hello, high noon. i'm bill hemmer, special sunday edition of fox news. >> i missed you. great to be back together. >> it is great to be back. and it's exciting to kick off this next leg of this journey. i'm martha mccallum and we are live at the wells fargo center in philadelph