special. good night from philadelphia of hillary is the nominee but are her problems just beginning? >> want an apology. >> with the party lurching further left -- >> there's nobody in the country that got rich on his own. nobody. >> feel the bern! >> bernie is the candidate we support overwhelmingly. >> sometimes it seems like she's scrambling to keep up. >> i never took a position on keystone until i took a position on keystone. >> will the new hillary clinton galvanize her voters? >> i don't think that there's excitement about hillary clinton right now. >> will she scare some away? >> never voted nothing but democrat. i'm voting trump this year. >> it's a huge abc for anybody

but clinton. >> fox news reporting. clinton's left turn: a political insider's special." and now, harris faulkner. >> we have just witnessed the republican national convention and some anticipated a fight before achieving at least a semblance of unity. hillary clinton heading into her party's convention will probably not face the same sort of outward opposition. on the surface, at least, the democratic party unified behind her but for all the smooth sailing expected to come over the next few days, there are still discordant notes in the air which she ignores at her peril and signals persistent problems with her can day is. in the early 1990s, it felt to some democrats that the party moved too far to the left and needed to change. >> 1992, we had a new agenda. it was a different agenda. it was equivalent of a third party in some ways.

>> al, founder of the democratic leadership council, rockiesed the party would have to change its ways if it hoped to ever win back the presidency. >> discrete party lost touch with the middle class it had built. >> i william jefferson clinton do swear -- >> bill clinton's election was a validation and the new agenda, welfare reform and free trade. >> we believed that we had to figure out how to take the traditional democratic ideas and principles and offer a new agenda to further them that more people would support. >> and this new administration that exemplified so-called third wave politics also brought america hillary clinton. by the time the 2008 election was approaching, hillary now a senator from new york seemed the heir apparent to the top slot in her party.

>> i announce today i'm forming a presidential exploratory committee. >> the party they helped to form was changing. >> i'm proud to represent new york, to represent the financial capital of the world. >> with the economy caving in, being a senator with close ties to wall street did not play that well. and her unapologetic vote for the iraq war did even more damage. >> i think i made a reasoned judgment. >> i think it is much easier for us to have the argument when we have a nominee who says i always thought this was a bad idea. this was a bad strategy. >> meanwhile, barack obama was a fresh face. someone who seemed to represent the future for many on the left when it came to hillary the bloom was off the rose. >> special comment on senator clinton's assassination remark. god knows, senator, the nation had to forgive you early and often. to not appreciate tonight what you have done today is to reveal an incomprehension about the america you seek to lead.

this, senator, is too much. >> eight years later, and once again, hillary clinton was inevitable. is it the same hillary? it's certainly not the same party she knew when her husband was riding high. >> there is nobody in this country who got rich on his own. nobody. >> now the energy seemed to be in a different place. a place much further to the left. after all, a man who once might have seemed a mainstream candidate for the democratic nomination, former virginia senator jim webb gained so traction in his campaign. >> i believe that i am where the democratic party traditionally has been. >> who rose to challenge clinton? a socialist senator from verm t vermont. hillary once again had to worry about her left flank. >> hillary clinton was on the other side of many of these

trade agreements supporting nafta. >> bill clinton had helped push nafta through and hillary had been a free trader, too. she recently backed the international trade deal known as the transpacific partnership. >> this tpp sets the gold standard in trade agreements to open, free, transparent, fair trade. >> but now in debate, she opposed the tpp. >> i did say when i was secretary of state three years ago i hoped it would be the gold standard. it was just finally negotiated last week. and in looking at it, it didn't meet my standard. >> and when it came to the keystone pipeline, an issue some saw as a classic case of environmentalism versus jobs, she was accused of flip flopping. >> i never took a position on keystone until i took a position on keystone. >> it seemed the third wave politics of bill clinton which has succeeded so well in the 1990s were dead in the water.

indeed, many of the things that had been bill clinton's top achievements were now liabilities. political baggage that hillary had to renounce or explain away. >> secretary clinton at that time had a very different position on welfare reform, strongly supported it and worked hard to round up votes for its passage. >> hillary clinton had successfully navigated the obstacle course of the primary season and is ready to be crowned head of her party in philadelphia. but there are still lingering questions. to those on the left, the question could be, is this a hillary we can believe in? to those in the center, the question could be, is this a hillary who's abandoned us? those are questions one way or another they'll be answering this november in the voting booth. when we return, we'll talk about where hillary and her party go next with our fox news political insiders. stay close.

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welcome back. and with me now, the fox news political insiders, doug shown, john and pat ka dell. pat, i'm going to start with you and a reason we call you the insider you were inside the who is for almost all of bill clinton's presidency and you helped create as a strat yis in the white house not only the language and the platform itself. so my question for you is, with regard to hillary clinton and what we saw right before the commercial break, is it that it's broken, out of style, out of reach? what is it? why isn't she using that? >> it is mostly gone, harris. it's gone because the democratic party has moved far, far left. it is now effectively a party

that adheres to socialist principles. redistribution of wealth. breaking up the big banks. we in the '90s worked with business, it was a real partnership. balanced budgets, fiscal discipline. it's all gone. and what i think you're going to see at the convention with secretary clinton is an effort to take the left wing of the party, usurp their ideas on single payer health care, $15 minimum wage, free college for all, and turn it into her platform, her way. very different, harris, from what we did in the '90s. >> all right. is it disingenuous, pat? i mean, clearly, if she is taking a new page out of a book of, say, bernie sanders or senator elizabeth warren, that's not her book. >> no. and the fact of the matter is that's not how she started the campaign. i think one of the probables

that this relates to and you used the word disingenuous is the idea that this woman, because it goes to her character problems, that she will do and say whatever she has to say in this moment as she's now moved on health care which she opposed the single payer. whatever she has to do to get whatever piece of support she is looking for that day, rejecting all of bill clinton's platform and when she was involved in is very interesting except then she wants to say, but look how the economy was. i don't think you can pick and choose and say, we were wrong on everything else. she drives whatever the -- she reacts to whatever the next loudest voice is and works that way and as doug said, it's more than just a left movement. it's an elitist movement. this was a party that spoke for ordinary americans in the common man and right now it is become both an elite party and a party of let's not forget the special

interests it represents. >> it didn't just open the die for bernie sanders when's very far left, a so-called democratic socialist. not that you need to i guess modify the word socialist in any way, right? but it created somewhat of an opening for the other side of the aisle. >> totally. you used the key word for hillary, disingenuous. how can you believe anything she says about anything because she's on every side of every issue. before doug came along in the hillary and bill world, she was to the left. bill and hillary when they got elected in '92, the first two things they did, tax increase and gays in the military. and then she starts hillary care. they get rebuked by the voters. they lose the house and senate. in comes smart democrats like doug, bill clinton is smart. he adjusts himself and does the new wave and it worked. now, the democrats have changed. and they're way left wing.

but ironically, donald trump is to the left of hillary on some of these things where it's an advantage to have him. >> give me an example. >> to the left of her on the war in iraq. he's to the left of her on free and fair trade. he's against the trade deals she championed as secretary of state. and i'll think of other things. >> does that give him an opportunity, then, pat, to scoop up the bernie sanders -- >> yes, what he is doing, donald trump campaigning for blue collar democrats in west virginia and other places in the middle, those voters who particularly feel alienated from the system, which they're large numbers of, those voters he has real appeal to. >> doug, you were there. >> i was. >> as i said. i wonder how it feels to see not just her move to something different and new, but it's almost like a repudiation of her own husband's policies. i mean, are you disappointed? >> well, i am disappointed,

harris. let me take you inside the white house if i can from that period. hillary clinton was adrift. john and pat are right. she had started out on the left. she saw that the third way ideas lower taxes, disciplined spending, balanced budget, welfare reform, tough on crime worked in the '90s and she basically said, tell me what to say. tell me what -- what to did. >> you don't want that in a candidate. you called her a friend but, i mean, really, is that what you want in a candidate? >> if you're a political adviser you want them to do what you suggest but the repudiation now of where clinton-ism was in the mid-90s to where she is now as some of the clips showed is disturbing to me. >> wait a second. i have to look at this thing. when they started a year and a half ago bill and hillary on this campaign they thought she would sail to the nomination and positioned her back in the third

way pro-business democrat. along comes bernie sanders and along comes voters like in iowa where 43% of iowa democrats self identify themselves as socialist. more of them self identify as socialists than capitalists. >> and they're young. another area she can't seem to scoop up. >> and they're young. america is moving to the left on many social and economic issues. many. not the blue collar steel wor r workers. >> the nominee of your party might have a better shot. that seg wails us into the next phenomenal here. that's what we called bernie because people were feeling the bern. when we come back here on our special, we'll talk about the insurgency of bernie sanders and the democratic party. stay close. of bernie sanders and the democratic party. stay close.

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hillary clinton hoped to have an easy ride to the nomination. perhaps the last thing she expected was an insurgency from the left that threatened to sweep her aside. >> thank you! >> this is that message to the establishment. we're not going to continue to be bought and paid for in this country for the corporate interests. we are fighting, this is a revolution. >> and leading the revolution was the 74-year-old socialist senator from vermont bernie sanders. >> i believe in all due respect to my good friend secretary clinton that it is too late for establishment politics and establishment economics. >> he put up quite a fight during the primaries winning 22 states. in fact, it wasn't until june that clinton had enough

delegates to be guaranteed the nomination. but that was hardly the end of her troubles. about two weeks later, we went to the washington state democratic convention where there was still bad blood between the two factions. >> we could make a statement that in this state just this state we're not willing to endorse the war criminal who ordered assassinations, drone strikes and killed 90% -- >> sanders supporters like rebecca davis spoke out against hillary and hillary's supporters gave as good as they got. >> if the bernie sanders people want to be separate, be separate. but don't come in and ruin the democratic party like the tea partiers ruined the republican party. that's it. >> it's a rivalry that's been playing out across america. sanders may have finished second but in doing so he's become an icon to millions of democrats. >> these are bernie's and little bernies. >> bernie is the candidate that we support overwhelmingly.

>> rebecca is a sanders dell gt at the washington state convention. >> some of us definitely feel that clinton is a bought and paid for. i do feel she doesn't represent us. >> and those sanders enforced clinton. that doesn't mean the supporters will necessarily rush to her side. the day sanders finally gave in, many of his supporters took to social media with more anguish than enthusiasm over his endorsement of clinton. >> i have voted for the lesser of two evils since i became a democrat and enough is enough. >> although hillary has the full backing of the democratic establishment, she still seems to have trouble with the younger crowd. will all those millennials turned on by bernie turn out for hillary? >> the democratic party is asking her, their future in the hands of millennials that do not support their policy. >> for her part, clinton seems to have heard the message and

attempted to reach out to the bernie people. >> we are going to make college debt free for all. and we're going to build on the president's idea to make community college free. i know that we can finish the job of universal health care coverage for single man, woman and child. >> whether the voters will buy this hillary is an open question. >> the fact that she has just gone back and forth, not only, not evolved like a person who's learning and kind of changes their policy positions in a logical way but goes back and forth as it's politically expedient and not something i think a steadfast leader would be characterized by. >> spotting an opener, donald trump has also gone for the bernie constituency. >> to all of those bernie sanders voters who have been left out in the cold by a rigged

system of super delegates, we welcome you with open arms. >> the reason for the trump phenomenon and the sanders phenomenon is economic populipo. >> a lifelong democrats. >> there are a lot of democrats in this part of the world i know of who are going to vote for an economic populist before they vote for hillary clinton. >> but even if they don't vote trump, there's apprehension in the clinton camp they won't come home. >> if it is two candidates whom neither one i support, i will be writing in a third candidate or i will not vote at all. >> meanwhile, hillary also has to worry. if she drifts too far left, she may turn off more centrist voters. no matter what the ultimate result, there's no question.

the movement represented by bernie sanders has left a major footprint on the democratic party. >> all right. so, john, watching that, the big question is, you know, how bernie sanders is affecting politics in total in america. not just for democrats. >> when they look back on 2016 and write the history of this year, the two people to write about are going to be bernie sanders and donald trump. both leading movements from the grassroots up that no one saw a year and a half ago and they're here, they're alive and still driving the politics beyond the candidate himself. bernie is out of the race but those voters are still here and are powerful. >> this idea of a movement, why can't hillary clinton get a movement? >> she is getting slaughtered and her problem is she doesn't look authentic to these people. sanders looks authentic. she is to them the status quo and politics as usual and the everything they feel strongly against. >> look. anything can change. >> sure. >> as we head into this

convention. but, you know, going in to this weekend, there was a report that bernie sanders couldn't get a permit to hold a rally outside the venue ahead of the convention in philadelphia for 40,000 people! >> sure. >> he couldn't get -- he was denied by the deputy city manager. you had some strong thoughts about why that might be. >> i think that the clinton campaign is scared to death of what pat and john rightly called the sanders movement. the sanders movement is independent from bernie sanders. what those 40,000 or more people do could determine the direction of the convention and the full campaign. hillary clinton desperately needs those people and bernie sanders. it's an open question as we sit here now, harris, whether she'll get them. >> yeah. interesting. there's more. i know you guys are cooking up more but we'll talk about the role of identity politics for hillary clinton and those people that fit into categories that

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during this campaign season hillary clinton has been moving forward and many would say well to the left. so it's only natural that some feel left behind. >> i'm a democrat. i believe in two founding principles of jacksonian democracy, social justice and economic fairness. and right now, i think that the

democratic party, my great party, has got away from some of this. >> butt cat saunders sees how the party shifted and leaving former supporters behind. >> used to stand for working people. you know, hillary clinton's, you know, record, nafta, shafta, favorite nation status for china, glass-steagall, we can go on and on and on. she's not been a friend of rural america and rural america knows that and shows in the primaries. in caucuses and it's a huge abc of feeling out here, anybody but clinton. >> he feels the party has lost its way, going too far, turning what was once virtue into vice. critics say the party evolved into a group more excited about fighting for transgender bathrooms than the economic survival of the middle class. >> the democrats seem intent to

work on social issues and while social issues are important at the same token i don't like them used as wedges. >> to saunders, cultural issues get in the way of addressing the real concerns of working people. >> i mean, we need to deal with the economy. and economic fairness is the number one issue in every poll you see done and the democrats have gotten away from it. now, of course, they have a terrible spokesperson in hillary clinton. >> in rural virginia, many feel abandoned by the democrats. >> i've always been a democrat my whole life. never voted nothing but democrat. i'm voting trump this year. >> janice has decided to show her support selling trump merchandise in roanoke. >> i cannot believe in the democratic party at this time. sitting here talking to people, they -- the majority of the things i'm hearing is we need change and truly believe hillary

will not bring that change. we will have more of the same. trump will bring the change. >> clifford turner works with her in the booth. >> the politicians cannot dictate everything. but their policies is what dictates how the country moves or becomes stagnant. and i think if hillary's elected, we're going back worse than we are. >> i believe donald trump is the best choice for us. america has been down in the dumps for a listening time. >> carl drives the motor mile speedway in virginia. >> you know, i'm all about the immigration stuff but, you know, that's not number one on my priority. it is about guilting the jobs back here in the u.s. and american made products because, you know, this is american made sport and this is american made sports on this car so high performance, it doesn't matter if it's an iphone or actually, you know, a kitchen utensil.

we need those products made in the usa. >> people here were traditionally democrats. couldn't find a republican with a search warrant around here 50 years ago. >> mudcat saunders is hopeful the party can make a comeback in the south. >> see? i want to see the democratic party rebuilt. i don't want anymore of the status quo democrats. i don't want anymore of this abandoning working people. i don't want it anymore. i want no more wedge politics. out with the old. in with the new. and i want somebody to fill a rocket, a bees nest and hillary clinton is not going to throw a rock at a bee's nest unless she gets a lot of money for it. >> saunders is so fed up with the democratic nominee he's planning to vote for donald trump in november. >> i get asked whether trump has the temperament to be president of the united states. i know this for sure. he's got the temperament to

throw a rock right in the center of a bee's nest up there in washington and it needs it. >> and in washington, even people like former ohio congressman dennis kucinich a democrat many would say is left of mudcat saunders have a diagnosis that isn't much different. >> why doesn't the party represent the aspirations of the american people? because years ago the party made book with corporate america. that's where the campaign cash came from. you know, one of the fundamental problems looking at that's a flaw in a fault line that runs through the system is the fact once you have corporations giving money to political parties and betting on both horses they always win. and the people lose. >> meanwhile, a lot of people in the rural south simply don't believe they have much to look forward this campaign. >> i think when it comes to the election this fall, we are screwed either way. i just -- i guess the lord

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we are back in my happy place. you know, the with the fox news political insiders. we just learned about mud cans cat saunders and several others who thought they were the purse for hillary clinton. her purse is leaking, pat. she may lose them. >> the bag is broken. she is -- it is just hemorrhaging support of blue collar democrats and in rural america the democrats who have been traditionally bill clinton won, they're gone. part of the reason is it is a populist insurgent year and in hillary clinton is anything but that. she is the establishment washington candidate and the democratic party has become two things. it's become a wall street party which is where it's funded from. and takes care of those interests. and it is also become an elitist party that puts extreme

environmentalism above everything else. identity bathrooms and other issues on the heads of a pin rather than what's happening to people who are not in the riches, the high cotton, if you will. working people, poor people. >> doug, i know you want to jump in here. >> sure. a practical example. in 1996 i was the clinton/gore campaign manager in tennessee. we won tennessee. one of the last bastians of the old south to stay democratic. we ran on crime, law and order, safety and security in the schools. four years later, al gore lost tennessee. had he won, he would have been elected president. >> on the hillary thing, hillary is the worst fit for these people. bill was a great fit. but hillary is a total fraud for them. she's an ivy league elitist who knows better, going to tell you what kind of health care you ought to have and taking this money from goldman sachs. the whole thing.

it's a disaster. >> no better on display than the matching blue pantsuit when she and elizabeth warren joined each other on the stump and a few weeks ago and what you heard hillary clinton say, what she said. what she said. people in the audience had to have been wondering i would imagine, i as a jounlist would have asked them, aren't you wondering it isn't what i said as hillary clinton any a right. this is as i said she is -- i mean, she's just like dough. she rolls around wherever you push her. >> oh my goodness. >> and but i'll tell you the pantsuit day which is great and here's the problem in the democratic party. what donald trump in his acceptance speech spoke to about the powerless people, i will be your voice, and he said, her slogan is i'm with her. and he said my campaign, i'm with you. you couldn't have made it more real in terms of bill clinton had an empathy for people. i feel your pain. she feels no one's pain.

and the other problem with this is elizabeth warren wasn't warren had great admiration for her until she decided that hillary clinton's refusal to release the wall street transcripts because after all the party comes first rather than my principles and that is where the thing is breaking down for the sanders voters who are not democratic voters. >> right. what i have heard all three of you talk about with the problem of that is the clinton foundation and why people like senator warren wouldn't have pushed even within the party to make sure that that was clean, that that didn't become a stomping ground for people -- >> elizabeth warren had the high moral ground for the last two or three years. she wanted to be vp. she finally revealed herself. yes, i'm ready to be commander in chief and before said i don't want to run. i want to stay in the senate. she's ruined that special reputation she has. >> what you're going to see as a

result of all of this, secretary clinton can't make too strong of a case for herself. why? the negatives. >> that's interesting. >> it will be a $2 billion campaign of vilify case of donald trump and the republicans in the swing states. >> how does that play with voters? >> well, it's played okay with voters. it's within the margin of error in the swing states, harris, we haven't seen it really in full swing and pat and john may believe that donald trump compelling and i do too but you are going to see a blast of money and resources. >> interesting. >> and messaging. >> within the margin of error would she spend millions of dollars in battleground states? >> could have said the same thing about jeb bush campaign. >> i did. >> and you were wrong. people learned of 40 or $50 million spent in the swing states and she's actually -- >> all right. >> $2 billion?

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the democrats are counting on the black vote to put them on the top, and the question is if the black community can count on hillary. for 50 years now, blacks in america have been near

monolithic in the support of the democratic party. and hillary clinton's candidacy appears to be no exception. >> thank you so much, south carolina. >> in recent polls, she has the back of approximately 87% of black voters. still that doesn't mean that she can take that vote for granted. >> i don't think that there is an excitement about the hillary clinton right now, and she has to establish the excitement. do you have any pictures of o -- >> the reverend a member of a group called 100 black men an african-american advocacy group. >> i believe in competition, and i believe in some ways our vote has been taken for granted by some in the democratic party. hillary clinton has to not rest on barack obama's laurels. >> the clintons have a long history with the black voters.

husband, bill, of course sh, ha their support when he won for two terms as president. he also did certain things that raised questions in the black community. when for instance after the rodney king riots, rapper sis ta sole ja said if black people kill black people everyday why not have a week where white people kill white people, and bill clinton then spoke out against her in a jesse jackson coalition event. >> she has a lot of influence, and if you reversed those words, and it might be a david duke moment. >> it was the sister souljah incident, and once in office h passed a violent crime control act of 1994, a tough on crime measure, and hillary supported

it and rode the anti-violent bandwagon. >> and kids without conscious, and no kindness or empathy, and we can talk about what got them that way, but we have to talk about how to make them heal. >> and some of her beliefs have caused some problems within the black community. >> you are called tras pa ed tr >> perhaps chasened by such encounters the hillary clinton of 2016 is a far cry from the tough on crime hillary of the past. then came dallas. 12 police officers shot. five killed followed by baton rouge, three officers kill and three wounded. within days, clinton gave a speech to the naacp, and some w

wondered if this could be her sister souljah moment. >> today, there are people all across america sick over what happened in baton rouge and in dallas, but also fearful that the murders of police officers means that vital questions about police-community relations will go unanswered. >> instead of suggesting that even once that anybody might want to tone down their anti-police rhetoric. there is clear evidence that african-americans are disproportionately killed in police incidents compared to the any other group. >> she focused on how the police needed reform stating that their run-ins with people of color are due to bias and not say differential crime rate, and appare apparently the sister souljah moment had passed. all right. after watching that the i want to put it in the context that we mentioned the shootings of police officers and where we are in this country with the race

relations, and the heartbeat of anger among some citizens. and really the heart beat that we have to protect our law enforcement, and where we are in all of that. and so hillary clinton is looking at a different people of color electorate than her husband had to look at. >> she is. it is a more varied electorate and more different strengths, but one political reality, harris, and that is she needs 90%-plus of the african-american vote at a robust turnout to win the election. if she doesn't get it, she is not elected president of the united states. >> is she on track to do that? >> right now, she is, but she needs turnout, unity at her convention and most of all she needs black leaders all over the country to come together for her. >> she also as doug pointed out, she's got two presidents who are going to work together even though they don't like each other president obama and former president clinton, and they are

going to work together to try to drive that black turnout up to elect her. >> that is the opportunity that donald trump's speech that i thought was very interesting which when he talked about what was happening in urban america, and in black america and in the lack of education and jobs he at least began to make a case to try to -- >> school choice. >> and another really good point, and the problem for the democratic party is that they have promised african-americans everything, and delivered nothing in urban america, and the republicans can't get the vote because they is have no empathy. >> and so when you say that four letter word jobs, it is like a loud bell in the room. >> it is trump's strength that he needs to hammer from now on. when the republicans try to get the black vote, they at least make themselves look better among the moderate white voteers who are weary of them, and that is where trump's weakest point is modern white suburban voter,

and if he is empathetic, and i believe that he is by the way -- >> and the surrogates are people of color, and they are compelling speakers there. >> and the police chief said that blue lives matter is one of the best lines of the convention. >> harris, the republicans have a long way to go in the swing states, and many polls have shown that under 5% for donald trump, and whether he can do that, and use what he did at the convention as pat and john have said as a starting point, and donald trump has hundreds if not thousands of african-americans working for him, and gainfully employed for him, and they love him, and he has not talked about it. >> and the stakes that hillary clinton choosing tim kaine, and i heard you say that you don't care for this man, and why not? >> well, he is bland and a political insider, and last week he relaxed some regulation, and vis-a-vis the banks, and he

appear ed appeared to have flip-flopped on trade. so i don't see what he brings to bear, and i don't think that he is going to help her in virginia. >> and so, john, is a good signal across the aisle? >> well, no, i think that there is a little bit of dirt on him after the bob mcdonald problem, he was lieutenant governor. >> and will they pick up on that? >> yes, and the press, and he was governor an lieutenant governor and took $160,000 in gifts and it does not look good. >> pat? >> i am surprised, because the problem could be real, but it is counting on the press to do anything to derail the that would hurt hillary clinton is asking a lot. >> wow. >> the problem with kaine is that he is -- i am serious, i think that she likes him, and they get along well, and she wanted color, and she thought that hence the pressure is off -- >> what group does he help her with? >> interesting. >> and the bernie sanders people are going to be very unhappy. >> i am glad that we got to do

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