yesterday would quiet down to y today, think again. we've seen a lot more of shouting on the floor. i wouldn't call it chaos. but bernie sanders' supporters are making themselves very clearly felt in that auditorium this afternoon. the figve is next. i'm greg gutfeld. huge night for hillary clinton. very soon she will officially become her party's nominee. chief political anchor, bret baier, my favorite bear, joins us now to tell us what's about to happen. bret? >> hi, greg, and everybody on "the five," we are here in the hall. they just started the nominating speeches. you get a sense from the crowd there are a lot of bernie delegates down there. they are going to start the roll call after a short time. but you've been hearing bernie sanders' chants and clapping. right now you had tulsey

gabbert, first nominating speech for bernie sanders.e first peop in congress to endorse sanders. right now you'll have paul feeny, bernie 2016 massachusetts director. one more nominating speech, shila nelson, delegate from vermont was added. you'll have nominating speeches for hillary clinton, barbara mcculskey, senator from maryland and also john lewis, the long-time representative from georgia. at that point, the roll call will start. we're told that it will go alphabetically. all the states. vermont will pass. as of this late hour it was still being negotiated how it was all going to wrap up. hillary clinton needs 2,382 delegates to get over the hump to officially become the nominee. she will get that probably around south dakota or tennessee. but in the end, all the states will be counted. we're told bernie sanders may even come down and ask for acclimation, that all the delegates then go to hillary

clinton. we don't know if that's a fact or not. we do know there's a lot of chanting in this hall for bernie sanders and expect that to continue throughout this hour. back to you guys. >> thanks, bret. last night, bernie threw his supporters under his very own bus. >> this election is about which candidate understands the real problems facing this country and has offered real solutions. based on her ideas and her leadership, hillary clinton must become the next president of the united states. hillary clinton will make an outstanding president and i am proud to stand with her tonight. >> and, of course, sadness ensue

d. >> thank you very much. >> poor thing. she has no reason to be distraught. she got what she wanted. sure, it's not bernie, but it's not hillary either. it's a hernie, fusion of both. hillary is bernie, 90% more progressive, left wing raisin bran with two extra scoops of socialism, bashing evil banks, free trade, corporations and small businesses while expanding the size and scope of big government, hernie has created a road map of success, found on spectacular display right now in

venezuela. this is not bill clinton's democratic party. it's not even a democratic party. it's now a slab of left-wing populism, democratic socialism and vile identity politics. sanders endorses it because he helped build this grim repudiation of the most successful system in history. hillary is fine with it, as is sad comic sarah silverman who relied on tired old jokes and i don't mean al franken. >> hillary heard the passion of the people. the people behind bernie. i will proudly vote for her. just a few years ago, she was a secretary. now she's going to be president. can i say the bernie or bust people, you're being ridiculous.

>> so she's calling them ridiculous. that's like big bird calling someone yellow and feathery. so, congratulations to bernie, to realize his socialist dreams, he didn't have to move to cuba. he moved cuba here. all right. so, juan, you've made this point before. hillary is moving left to get bernie's people. but this is an act, right? she's going to move right back. >> i don't know. i mean, it seems to me bernie promises that this is a movement, that it's not a one-time thing. he has had success. the thing that struck me yesterday, greg, was the troops managed to change a super delegates' rule. everybody is so upset about super delegates all going to hillary. they changed that now, a compromise forced by the bernie people. you know, when i was listening to you, i was thinking about how many of the democrats now say they have no problem with socialism. >> yes. >> i'm a little surprised at it. >> me, too. >> the millennials, they really

want government intervention in terms of like lower costs for tuition, health care, the minimum wage. >> mommy and daddy as government. >> that's who they are, that's who this younger generation of democrats is at this moment. >> yeah. it's a sad thing, eric. what did you make of the speech? >> here is what i made of the night. it started out on a really, really shaky beginning and it got worse until michelle obama spoke. she put a calming start on things. it's a terrible start for the dnc. they should have fixed this before they got to this point i thought it was very important what bernie said. even though we didn't win, we have enough voice on the platform committee that they got the most progressive socialistic, loving agenda in the history of democrat politics and everyone should be worried about that. one final note. and i think this is something the trump campaign should pick up on. i'm not sure they're even thinking about this yet. bernie sanders started speaking at 10:50 last night, i believe. >> yeah, about that.

>> and he spoke until about 11:23 to 25. the networks were supposed to stop at 11:00. so there's 23 or 25 minutes additional time. i'm guessing tonight same thing will happen with bill clinton. he will go over time as well. if trump were smart he would be doing the math on all this and have people -- you have seven days to apply for equal time. and the networks have to make up that equal time to his campaign as well. and he should take that. >> interesting. >> hmm. >> dana, do you think that sanders -- i see sanders getting a role in this administration, as like the head of the dmv. i could see him getting -- >> because it will make the dmv work so much better? >> yeah, but he could just be -- >> there's not a federal dmv. >> expanding government, create the department of the dmv. >> not a good idea. >> the department of the department. >> i think -- you mean they'll give him a job where he's never seen again? >> exactly. >> i don't think he will take it. he does like the spotlight. he earned the spotlight last

night. that's genuine affection and emotion that they were feeling for him. i didn't think the sarah silverman thing was ridiculous when she said to them, bernie or bust people you're being ridiculous. i think that helped break the fever, the bernie people. >> wasn't it already breaking? it was dissipating, i thought. >> wait, wait. you just came up with something, bernie fever. bern. >> i got that once in the tropics. it was horrible. >> that rash was unbelievable. >> shaped like texas. and it felt like texas, kimberly. >> somebody call 911. more ointment for greg. yeah? >> yes. did he do the right thing? >> you know, he did, because i think there was a tremendous amount of pressure for him to bring the party together. and he still is a big winner in all this, as dana has mentioned. he still has a platform. he has the leverage. he has a big movement and ground swell behind him. when you see that raw emotion on the faces of his followers, they are all in on him. and those are people that can

continue to follow him going forward, that help him to have a larger voice in the party. now, if you're on the other side and you're republican, pay attention to that, because also the fact remains that bernie sanders is going to exercise considerable influence. and some of that will be in the form of the platform and what kind of money will be spent on progressive programs and which also goes into whether or not the debt can increase, how we're going to pay for t then there's our friend called basic math that has to be taken into consideration. >> it might have been good for bernie. i don't think it's necessarily good for the democrats. i don't think the country has moved that far left and it puts the republicans in a position to be able to hold on and maybe even win the presidency this year. it's not good for america that the laws of economics, the theories of economics are not going to change just because there are disaffected young people. >> right. that is true. and i agree with you. >> so last week, we were all

talking about ted cruz. >> right. >> he finished second on the republican side. what did he do? he didn't endorse. so last night we have bernie, finishing second on the democratic side. his passionate supporters -- >> good point. >> -- crying and carrying on, much like monday night at the republicans where republicans under cruz tried to stage their on coup. i think last night we had a similar event but bernie handled it differently. i like what sarah silverman said. these people were behaving like juveniles. they never heard of compromise. >> they saw a primary election taken away from them, stolen from them. >> oh, come on. hillary got more votes. >> on the left -- you guys made a lot of hay out of the boos that ted cruz didn't endorse donald trump. that night and going into the next morning, until some other scandal happened. whatever it was. tonight i think you're going to get more boos. >> yeah. >> i think when vermont votes you're going to get boos. you're going to get hillary boos all night. it may go on longer than just

one event at the rnc that you thought was big. >> i don't see the boos coming. what they've been doing all day is negotiating. >> negotiating the boos? >> no. they're negotiating to have bernie play a key role in this nominating process. >> right. >> so his folks won't boo. >> do you know who is going to get a lot of boos tonight? you. >> me. >> the mini bar. there's nothing in the mini bar. >> why do they have a refrigerator with nothing in it? it's empty. that was a big debate whether the bottle of pinot noir that is free or not. did they comp that? >> i left something in that fridge. more to come night one of the dnc ahead. plus, special guest is going to join us. a man who helped president obama defeat hillary clinton back in 2008. david plouffe. is that how you say it? >> plouffe. >> i wanted to meet him before and talk to him. stay tuned. turns romantic

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we are moments away from the roll call to nominate hillary clinton. >> in some ways this is shaping up as bernie sanders' convention. he just got huge applause. we saw him waving from a vip box to the crowd getting a tremendous reception. the sanders forces feel like they were denied a steak dinner and now they're running through the candy store trying to grab the jolly ranchers that they can. some role for him tonight. we're hearing it may be senator sanders who, after hillary clinton secures the 2,382 votes she needs in this roll call coming up, who will be the individual who moves that hillary clinton's nomination should be by acclimation. it's unclear whether he will do that from the vermont delegation where he resides. so much is up in the air. it's a fired-up crowd.

hillary clinton waving their signs and the sanders crowd responding to their candidate who they see as wronged in this whole process. back to you guys. >> despite the theme of uniteding to, the convention was torn apart yesterday. michelle obama brought a divided audience together for a little while, while she took the stage and fired them up against donald trump. >> don't let anyone ever tell you that this country isn't great. that somehow we need to make it great again of the i want someone with the proven strength to persevere. someone who understands that the issues a president if as are not black and white cannot be boiled down to 140 characters. because when you have the nuclear codes at your fingertips and the military in your command, you can't make snap

decisions. you can't have a thin skin or tendency to lash out. >> okay. everybody has something to say about this topic. greg, i was going to dana and you started jumping up and down. what is the urgency? >> don't let anybody ever tell you this country isn't great. she should have added unless it's me, michelle obama, because eight years ago i said for the first time i'm proud of this country. i'm glad she said this, that she said the united states is the greatest country on earth. but it took her eight years. but welcome to the rest of us who love this country. >> open your shirt again. because you're with her, too. >> she would win. >> this is such a great point. she looks, she sounds presidential. she was beloved by the crowd. she really did deliver a great speech. it was the highlight, as eric said as well, of yesterday. >> what a remarkable eight years. she is a woman that will play an important role in our history forever. when she said what she said on

the campaign trail in 2008, you knew it was laura bush who, after eight years, sent a letter to michelle obama who said i know you didn't mean that how it came out. and she gave basically an olive branch to michelle obama that said it's going to be okay. you're going to come under a lot of scrutiny. last night was, by far and away, one of michelle obama's best nights. she certainly looks like she's glad it's coming to an end. she's going to be glad to have her family out of the white house i think. i think she has maybe experienced something that she wants to share with the american people, which is that she really love this is country and she wishes maybe she could have taken those words back. >> i'm quite certain. but, yes, she has done a dedicated service to this country like first ladies do. she was a stand out. i imagine, eric, at the end of this convention we'll say the same thing, she was a standout candidate. i wouldn't be surprised if we saw her running in the future after a bit of time passes. >> no idea about that. like i said earlier, there were

boos throughout the evening every time hillary clinton's name was mentioned. the boo crew got involved even when bernie sanders spoke. he was actually booed when he mentioned hillary clinton. that will again, i think, happen tonight. michelle obama did kind of put an end to that for the evening, which was good. and i agree. her speech was fantastic. >> she looks great, too. >> she had eight years to get ready for it and delivered it nicely. no mention of isis all night. no mention of islamic terror all night. maybe, maybe not. no american flags. people were saying they couldn't see one. i saw one kind of flying above in one of the video monitors. >> it might have been a mexican flag. >> there may have been some of that. lot of references to black lives matter. for me, that was not the time or place to be doing it. >> juan, how did you see things last night? >> i thought michelle obama gave the best speech we heard in 2016 at either convention so far. we'll see what comes. that was a pretty amazing performance, well written. the same woman who wrote that speech is the one who wrote the

2008 speech that was plag plagiarized. she also wrote the one for mrs. clint ben the thousand cracks in the glass ceiling. she did not mention donald trump by name but effectively spoke to people about what your children are hearing on tv and what they experience in terms of bullying and name calling. and do we want that as a model for our children. by talking about her children, she went above politics in a very effective way and said not about republican and democrat. it's about us as an american people and got through -- got through the polarizing static in our politics today. >> one thing i would add is that the 2016 senate and house races, ones that are especially close, and gubernatorial races, i would imagine that michelle's dance card is really filling up. sometimes first ladies don't get involved that much in campaigns. i have a feeling that she will pick and choose and be very

effective in the places she chooses to go to for fund-raising and getting out the vo vote. >> her detail does like her quite a lot, secret service detail. >> one interesting point to make they don't mention trump or isis. clearly, they think of them in the same boat. >> well, trump was mentioned 83 times? >> but who is counting? >> i think more than -- >> under god. >> i mean the pledge of allegiance. >> i'm saying i never heard at a convention -- >> all right. that was a little shout out. former campaign adviser david plouffe will join us for his very first appearance on "the five." we look forward to talking to him about this convention. stay right there.

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okay. the 2016 democrat roll call is now under way. we'll throw it back to bret who is at the scene. i believe it's alaska voting. go ahead, bret. >> native population in the united states with 229 federally recognized tribes. alaska, which makes united states an arctic nation, casts six votes for the next president of the united states, hillary clinton and 14 votes for the inspiring progressive bernie sander sanders. >> alaska, you have cast 6 votes

for secretary clinton and 14 votes for senator sanders. >> we are watching the roll call vote under way. that was alaska. we're going to go back to bret when we have a second. meantime, kimberly, jennifer griffin just told us there are some flags on stage. is that right? >> we love that jennifer griffin is, in fact, watching "the five" and fox. a number of american flags on stage and in the backdrop. we're happy to hear it. >> roll call vote 2016? >> what you heard just now, eric, you know, a lot of bernie supporters still in there. they're kind of being jerks, right? because he's not going to get t she will be the nominee and sarah silverman is right. they are being ridiculous. i think they're embracing their ridiculousness and are going to keep it going like a party atmosphere. there's nothing that's going to stop it. maybe barack obama will be able to calm them down tomorrow night. >> did she coin the phrase bernie fever? >> i don't know. >> i was curious from anchorage

what she was going to say. i don't know. alask alaska. >> in the bernie voice. >> juan is laughing. >> i like that. i'll ask her. >> worst joke ever. >> i liked it. elizabeth warren, you mentioned maybe barack obama tomorrow night, maybe, you know, what sanders had to say yesterday would have calmed them down. i thought elizabeth warren was going to be a major playing. but coming right after michelle obama, before bernie sanders it was like, did she talk? did she speak? i forget. what did she say? >> are you kidding me? she talked for a really long time. >> it wasn't very compelling or charismatic. michelle obama or not -- >> it was a solidly written speech. >> but it just wasn't delivered with much panache. >> it reminded me of a substitute teacher trying to explain american irl mperialism

bored fourth graders. just enough already. >> will there be a test? >> no, because she'll be gone at the end of the day. >> a guy who knows how to build things but doesn't pay his carpenters, his plumbers. instead he says go to court if you think you can get your money. what do you think of that? >> that's a preview of what's to come for donald trump from the democrats in the next 90 days. >> did you see what he said today? >> no. >> on the heels of that -- this is what donald trump does. there was complaints about donald trump in that vain, that he doesn't pay his bills. today he said the air conditioning in the hall at one of his venues wasn't working well enough or suggesting that maybe they shouldn't have paid the bill because it wasn't working. so he takes whatever you would think would be a negative and turns it around as i'm embracing this. i'm going to take it one step further. >> here is the other part that's coming out today. whether or not donald trump, you know, had some involvement with the russians, right?

and, in fact, george will is arguing maybe we're not seeing his tax returns. >> yeah, that's absolutely ludicrous. because assange says there's absolutely no ties with the russians as far as he knows with the leaks he got and then exposed. so old school, it's like they do everything that we wish we could do. >> you made a very good point yesterday. i think it was even at the bar last night. wikileaks, they're not the hackers. >> information acquisition and then they give the documents to them. >> they're a clearing house. stephanie rawlings-blake is chairing that roll call vote. no pushback on that, no controversy there? >> no. in fact, there was some boo'ing yesterday when you had marcia fudge, congresswoman from ohio

and others, trying to get things going. but, no. you guys don't like stephanie rawlings-blake because of her role during the rioting. >> the destruction of public property, destruction of small businesses and people in that community trying to make a living for their community and trying to serve those around them. it's a real direct economic blow to the prosperity of a community. there's never a good time. it's never appropriate to call for lawlessness and physical violence and destruction of property. >> look, i agree with you. i'm just saying no backlash yesterday against her here. >> no state begins with the letter b, is there? >> no. >> unfortunate. you go right to that big state, california. >> 551 votes, delegates in california. david plouffe is here. we'll be right back with him. >> for bernie sanders, 221

votes. and for hillary clinton, the next president of the united states, 330 votes. >> washington is out of control. debt is out of control. nothing in that story is going to change. you have to.

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each state, each territory adding up. this is a little different. sometimes they rig it so that the home state can get them over the number. they'll go through all the states alphabetically and we're told that bernie sanders is on the move. he has moved from the vip box to sit down with the vermont delegates and they are going to pass, we're told. and then at the end of the entire vote, bernie sanders is going to make a pitch to have all the delegates by acclimation go to hillary clinton in an effort, sign and signal in this contentious first couple of days of unity for democrats. i will tell you that there have been a lot of cheers and clapping for bernie sanders and a lot of signs on the floor here. they're methodically going through each state and territory. back to you. >> bret, thank you so much. we've got a special guest with us, david plouffe, who managed president obama's successful campaign in 2008 and re-election

in 2012 and served as senior adviser to him in the white house. he is currently chief adviser to uber and its directors. david thank you so much for being here. "the five" has a lot of topics and want to ask you a ton of questions. i'm kick it off and go around the table. on june 29th you tweeted, this race is not close and it won't be on november 8th. you predicted 350 plus electoral votes for clinton. you still stand by that? >> i do. i thought no one paid attention to our -- i do for this reason. you see polls. you have to allocate out 100% of the vote that you think is going to occur on election day, have some sort of what the turnout variance is and look at the battleground states. they tend to be close, won by four in 2012, seven in '08. is donald trump going to win florida, virginia, ohio?

on election day i have a hard time seeing that's going to happen. a bunch of things would have to happen. historically bad democratic turnout, historically good republican turnout and he would have to win the moderate vote. i don't see that happening. >> you look at it differently than any of us look at? is there something you pay attention to that we should be looking at? >> the benefit -- i'm not in a campaign right now. i've got a day job. campaigns have all the data. you have a sense of how every voter has behaved, likely to behave. you model that out, what a presidential year is likely to look like. this was a winnable year for the republican candidate. i just don't think donald trump is that candidate. hillary clinton will get a higher percentage of the democratic vote than donald trump will get of the republican vote and of the moderate vote. president obama won the white house largely because he won the moderate vote twice. president bush did that twice as well. >> eric, let's start with you.

>> so in the unique position to have spent a lot of time at high levels of politics and some amount of time at high levels of business. don't you think donald trump's business experience is unique and also will help him be a better president? >> well, for instance, i think mitt romney had a much better claim to being someone who understood the economy. we took issue with many parts of it. no. trump, maybe he's not a fraud. but this is not someone who has built a traditional business. he is a great marketer. obviously, whether it's trump university, some of the other efforts, there's been a lot of reports about how he has treated the people who work for him. from a political standpoint what i thought was very surprising last week, and in the whole trump campaign, if he's not out there saying here are the five ways i'm going to create jobs and wages, i don't think the democratic obama way has been the right way. i don't think the republican way has been right either. i have a new approach to the

economy. his economic message, i think, has been lacking. i think people would listen to the right economic message from someone like trump. he just hasn't offered it. >> has she? >> i think she's offered a stronger one. i think she has to offer a stronger one on thursday. i want to come out as one, people being as passionate as electing her as defeating donald trump and cheer as a bell what she'll do to help middle-class families. >> they're squeezing me for time. juan, kimberly, we'll do a quick one and then keep you for one more block. juan? >> so unusual to have someone else who is not a right winger on this set. welcome. but a lot of contention here on the set about the mothers movement and the fact that you're going to have the mothers of black men killed by police on the set and the response i get from my colleagues here is, wait. why don't we have the mothers of policemen who were slain also here at the convention? >> well, listen, at the end of the day, you're going to hear a lot about security a little bit different than i think you heard

in cleveland. which i think it was -- you know, there are elements of it that were strong. generally a pretty dark view of america. we can argue whether it was the right view of america. i don't think that's how most americans view it. it was very important for the democratic party at a time when people are worried, obviously. the darkest view of america we've heard in modern times and as many challenges as we have. you compare that to president bush. president reagan. that is not the republican party that we historically have seen. there was very little optimism and also a narcissistic exercise. as president obama said, i don't know what she's going to say in her speech thursday. >> quick one from kg. >> what would you recommend to the clinton campaign to bridge this enthusiasm gap? there seems to be a lot more energy and excitement about

bernie sanders than hillary. >> i think -- first of all, there's activists and then there's the electorate at large. you want both of them engaged. i think last night helped. the first lady's speech was electrifying and unifying. i think her husband will do that tonight, president obama. it's basically a four-hour television show. you need to put on a good show so ta people -- i think we'll come out unified. she will get 93, 94% of the electoral votes. right now more democrats are focus ond defeating trump than electing her. >> another one really quick. >> you were late and i was wondering if it was because uber. >> we are going to keep him for another block. >> seamless experience. david stays with us on "the five." we'll be right back. if you have moderate to severe rheumatoid arthritis,

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fox news alert. the roll call vote is going on at the convention center on the floor right there. you can see, we're going to keep our eye on 2,382 delegates, number needed for hillary clinton to officially gain the nomination. meantime back here, tens of

thousands of americans are descending on philadelphia this week for the d inform c. lucky for them, and us, the city reached a deal wuchlt ber to helm them get around town. they're now allowed to operate in the city for the summer to help mitigate transit nightmares. david plouffe is here, uber's chief adviser. you're now senior adviser to uber. why only the summer? a good idea is a good idea. >> right. well, i will tell you that the parking authority here we've had trouble with is republican dominated. >> oh. >> wait, wait. the mayor? >> in this case i've learned a lot about local government and local transportation more than i would ever like to know. in florida we tried to get state wide regulations blocked by -- generally the trajectory is broad agreement, acceptance, new regulations. why?

it's been a new source of real work for a lot of people. most of our drivers do this to supplement traditional work. reduction of drunk driving, kids under 25 in urban areas don't think about driving drunk anymore and there's transportation deserts all over the country. suburban areas and poor areas. you press a button in compton, you get the same ride. >> good luck taking that away at the end of the convention. >> i use the metaphor "taxi," if you remove the worst character, the dispatcher, all those other employees are free to do whatever they want. they can buy a car, share it with their family. the daughter drives at daytime, the father drives at night. it's amazing. i've read so many articles in progressive magazines that are critical of this, this revolution. it's a revolution. is it union backed? taxi unions are causing the biggest problem. >> it's fascinating. it's sad.

i mentioned the show "taxi," the young people at uber look at me like i have horns. they don't know what i'm talking about. they want to protect -- no entity ever wants to give up a monopoly. what we're trying to do a better job of -- we're less disruptive and additive. >> right. >> suburban areas, under-served areas. that's been the fight we've been getting. i think as more people understand -- listen, we're a private sector enterprise, not a nonprofit or government but there's a lot of great things happening because of ride sharing. they're saving money, saving time, less people dying because of drunk driving. >> but the democrats in many cities are pushing back. >> well -- >> we have time. >> almost 100 new laws have been passed around the country. people are starting to embrace it. >> another point you made, being a former prosecutor, having prosecuted so many drunk driving cases, i can't see how

refreshing it is to have young people knowing they have another option, mothers against drunk driver and i put my son who is 9 in an uber and talk to drivers to get him to places he needs to go. it's really good. drivers i talk to, they say it's wonderful for their family to have that independence. they feel like they have their own small business to increase their income. >> both sides, democrats and republicans for decades, how do you get more flexible work? you decide when you work. you fit this work around everything else in your life. it has profound impact. you spend more time with your kids, get to go to job interviews, spend your time with massive benefits. next, a look at what's happening tonight at the dnc. david stays with us. back in a moment.

hillary clinton is about to officially be nominated for president. still with us, former obama campaign adviser, david plouffe. david, tonight the big ticket, bill clinton. but i've got to tell you, bill clinton recently on his vegan diet after his heart surgery has looked fragile, hasn't been as powerful an orator as i'm used

to. what should we expect? >> he gave probably the most important speech of the 2012 convention for president obama. so he has the ability to do that. it's fascinating to me. this is going to be challenging, though, talking about his wife. so, we'll see. but he still has enormous credibility with the american people as someone who they trust on the economy. middle class issues. i assume it will be a very personal speech. no doubt even though hillary clinton is well known, she's not known as well as she needs to be. so i think he can fill in some of those gap. >> dana? >> i want to ask you about one other thing on uber. you have 50,000 veterans who are working for uber now, who are drivers. do you guys try to find them or are veterans finding you? >> we are working very hard with secretary gates on this and many former military leaders. it's a great example. most uber drivers aren't making a career out of this. a lot of them might do it for a few months. you come out of the military. krur not sure what you're going to do next. you get back into the community, make some money until you figure

out what to do next. >> never know who you might meet. >> it's a great networking. >> right. >> lot of military driving as well when their spouse is deployed. it's a great way. our goal is to get that up to 100,000. >> can i go back to the white house? you ever watch "the five," does the white house watch "the five"? >> i see clips, transcripts. >> oh, god. >> was generally too busy at 5:00 to watch it. we see what you guys say, of course. >> would you say to the president, hey, did you see what they said today? >> generally, he's more focused on -- if he doesn't, he would. >> one last political question -- >> i'm going to let that pass. >> michael bloomberg, former mayor of new york suddenly endorsing hillary clinton. does this mean anything with that middle you're talking about, trying to persuade them to come over? >> he does have credibility. what does this election come

down to? hillary clinton has to maximize democratic turnout. donald trump has to maximize republican turnout. hillary clinton is going to try to get some republicans and dodge trump will try to get some democrats then this group in the middle which is not particularly large but moderates that view both candidates unfavorably but they're going to vote. that's what the campaign is about. in this election it's going to be bigger. it could be 8% to 10%. in our race with romney and mccain it was smaller, like 6%. this is where trump not really having a campaign, you do pay a price for that. you can't tweet your way to the presidency. who your voters are, best way to go after them and have organization. >> organization is key. i think president obama will help bring it together with his speech. >> but you think trump doesn't have the infrastructure, advertising game even with the super pac? >> the super pacs will fill the advertising void. most important thing that happens is grassroots door knocking. we measured very carefully,

we're anal about this. what's the best way to convince someone to vote or swing voter to vote for you? a human being talking to you. >> we hope you'll come back to "the five" again. that's it for us. "special report" right now. >> this is a fox news alert. i'm bret baier. welcome to day two of the democratic national convention. democrats really only have one job. they have to get done this week and that is to formally nominate a candidate for president. that process is under way. the roll call of the states is ongoing right now. we are on maine. hillary clinton needs to get 2,382 delegates to clinch this nomination, which she will do in just a few states. you can see the ticker on the bottom of the screen here, adding up all the delegates on the right side of your screen. as each state goes, makes their pitch. and maine is a state that went to bernie sanders. you're hearing bernie sanders'