who are resilient. >> that's all for now. we will see you again tomorrow night right here at 7:00 p.m. eastern. boyle is live next. good night from philadelphia. [cheers and applause] ♪ ♪ hi, i'm bill o'reilly. thanks for watching us tonight. as we continue our coverage of the democratic national convention, the theme this evening hillary clinton's history of helping children and families. now, that's not a child there. that is a clinton advocate telling us why she is worthy to be president. her husband, the former president, will be speaking in the 10:00 hour. and will put forth the reasons why his wife should be president. otherwise, the speakers fairly low profile today with the exception of actress lena dunham the star of program girls.

how dunham ties in with kids and families i'm not quite sure unless she is promoting tattoos for them. anyway, let's not be catty. counsel countering donald trump. it's clear this convention is designed to portray mr. trump who will join us in a few minutes as a man unworthy of political office. to me that's a waste of time. everybody knows mr. trump even the dimmest among us can formulate an opinion on his worthiness. what is important, however, is how the democratic leadership is positioning the party. last night, michelle obama said. this. >> that is the story of this country, the story that has brought me to the stage tonight. the story of generations of people who felt the lash of bondage, the sting of segregation but who kept on striving and hoping and doing what needed to be done so that today i wake up every morning in a house

that was built by slaves. don't let anyone ever tell you that this country isn't great. that somehow we need to make it great again. because this right now is the greatest country on earth. >> the first lady directly repudiating the republican mantra that the u.s. is in decline. by the way, i will deal with mrs. obama's slave white house analysis in the tip of the day later on. senator elizabeth warren also spoke last night she had little to say other than trump is bad and hillary is good. senator warren continues to like socialism as well. but not as much as bernie sanders. a socialist standard bearer who is a bit disappointed the way the whole thing turned out. >> i understand that many people here in this convention hall and around the country are disappointed about the final results of the nominating process. i think it's fair to say

that no one is more disappointed than i am. but to all of our supporters here and around the country, i hope you enormous pride in the historical accomplishments we have achieved. talking points not sure what historical accomplishments have been achieved. it is stunning that 43% of democratic primary voters want a socialist in the white house. again, that's not an accomplishment. that is a mystery. to be sure, bernie sanders is not a phony, is he a feisty, honest guy, he would absolutely take over the private economy if he were president. telling each and every american what they can earn, what they can keep. ened anyway, bernie sanders history for the moment. and hillary clinton has received her party's nomination for president.

the first american woman in history to do so. like her or not, that is an accomplishment. but whether she can effectively counter donald trump is all that matters right now. and that's the memo. now for the top story. just a few hours ago i spoke with mr. trump who was in florida. >> so the democratic convention so far has been to counter you and your themes. number one is that president obama saved the country from a depression, that he inherited such a bad economic condition in 2008 that the economy is not his fault and he actually saved us from armageddon. you buying any of that? >> no, because it was going to work out, bill. it always works out. we always have bad periods. and that was a bad period. but we have had many of them. frankly it works out. they could have done things a lot differently. and our recovery has been a very weak recovery. you look at the recovery, it's the weakest recovery in history. it's the weakest recovery on record. and you look at joblessness,

and i'm not talking about the phony 5% number. i'm talking about the 21% or 22% real number where people can't find jobs. they can't find work. we are losing our jobs in our factories and everything else to other countries, including mexico. so, you know, you know the real numbers. you see the real numbers. >> it's an interesting argument because it's speculative and you can't deny how bad it was with lima brothers folding and all of that and a lot of panic. on the other hand, you know, 8 years is 8 years. i tend to agree that the economy should be better than it is now. what about the minimum wage? you got hammered on that by bernie sanders last night. what's your vision for federal minimum wage? how much? >> well, he lied last night. i mean, it was a total lie, and everybody said it, in fact, some of the folks on your network said wow, that was really a lie, he said i want to do go less than minimum wage is a new one. i'm the republican that said in some cases we have to go

more than minimum wage. >> give me a number. >> no. let me give you a concept because i think it's a good concept. you go with the states. let the states make the determination. because if you take new york, it's very expensive to live in new york. and they need more than, you know, 7, 8, $9, you go with the states. >> the states have the authority now to do that. >> they do. >> there has to be a federal minute mum wage. what would you set the federal minimum wage at? >> there doesn't have to be. i would leave it and raise it somewhat. you need to help people. i know it's not very republican to say. >> give me 10 bucks? >> i would say 10. i would say 10. but, with the understanding that somebody like me is going to bring back jobs, i don't want people to be in that $10 category for very long. but, the thing is, bill, let the states make the deal. >> they're not doing that right now because you could have a state that raises it to 15 and i would also, and this is just an aside, teenagers could make a little bit less, you know, first job if you are 17, you

know, to get them in the workforce. anyway, let's go on to -- >> -- let me just finish because a friend of mine is a very tremendous employer. and what he did is he said by raising it and by doing certain things it took the incentive. he pays people incentive basis if they are really good he gives them incentive. nobody has ever heard of this before and a lot of companies do it. by raising it they already get the incentive. no, i believe it should be raised but when bernie sanders said i want to go less than what the minimum wage, i mean, honestly, bill, these people are lying so much. and every fact checker said trump never said that. i never did say it. >> $10 minimum wage federally and states can do what they want. >> you have me on record saying the states are going to raise it higher than that. >> and they can if they want. climate change, they said that you called climate change a hoax. is that true? >> i want clean air and i want clean water. and if you look at what's going on in china and all of these other countries that talk with you they laugh behind our back at what

we're doing, we want clean air, clean water, i have gotten many environmental awards. believe me, i know what i'm talking about. but i want -- we have to have crystal clearwater and crystal clean air. >> did you ever call climate change a hoax? >> i might have because when i look at. so things going on and when you look at europe they had their pig summit people were sending out emails scientists practically calling it a hoax and they were laughing at it so, yeah, i probably did. i see what's going on and you see what's going on. >> fossil fuels and gases have eroded the environment so that the sun is more intense on earth? because that's the basic thing? do you believe that's happening? >> well, they are saying man made and i say it could have a minor impact but nothing, nothing to what they're talking about. and what it's doing is putting us at a tremendous disadvantage as a country. because other countries are

not adhearing to the rules. we are. it makes it impossible to compete. we are adhering to strict rules. you look at china and all of these other countries practically all of them they are not adhering to the rules. our jobs are being jeopardized -- not jeopardized being taken away. our companies are unable to compete. >> nato, you made some controversial comments. i want you to clarify them because i hate taking it from the press, because i agree with you that you are not going to get a fair shot in the press ever. you got small countries in eastern europe that putin might mess around with. that would trigger a response from the united states. and you kind of seem to indicate that maybe you wouldn't respond. >> well, i think i have been treated fairly, you know, reasonably on that. and the "new york times" covered it fairly accurately, which is unusual for them because usually they don't. the fact is we are protecting so many countries that are not paying for the protection. they are not living up to the bargain. they are not living up to their agreement. we have an agreement.

we're going to protect countries. and i like nato. i like the concept of nato. it's obsolete because we don't cover terrorism. i have been saying that for a while and now all of a sudden because i have been saying it, they have a division where they start really covering terrorism. >> i think that was because of me not you. >> wait a minute, bill. >> it was because of me. it wasn't because of you in this case and you know that. [ laughter ] >> the other thing because it was obsolete. and now all of a sudden they have a division now, wait a minute. when a country isn't paying us and these are countries in some cases in most cases that have the ability to pay, and they are not paying because nobody is asking. >> got to kick them out. >> we are funding 73% of the cost of nato. so we're protecting all of these countries. they have an agreement to reimburse us and pay us and they are not doing it and if they are not going to do that. we have to seriously rethink at least those countries. it's very unfair. right now, you have five countries that are paying their share. five. >> okay. i agree if they're not paying their share then they

get booted out of the alliance. >> you know, bill, what's been hang, people are saying well, we have a treaty. we do have a treaty. we have a treaty both ways. they are supposed to be paying. they are not paying. the reason they are not paying is because we are not asking for the money. this isn't 40 or 50 years ago where we can do whatever we want to do. we owe $19 trillion. going to be 21 trillion very soon because of the horrible budget that was just made. we owe owe $19 trillion. we are paying for all of these countries. they are not living up to their obligation. we are supposed to get into world war 3. let me just tell you, a lot of people first they really didn't like what i was saying. now so many people are starting to agree with me, they are saying you know what? trump was right. >> now they have to pay. >> you watch. hillary clinton will now come out and say countries have to pay and people are going to forget it just like she did today. just like today, she came out today with nativity i have been say would he go have to renegotiate with nafta and get out because they are taking our jobs.

today for the first time out of all these years that she worked on this and her husband signed it one of the worst things ever signed from an economic development standpoint came out today and said well we are going to have to start renegotiating our deals. i have been saying this for a long time. she just came out. because you know why? what i have been saying makes sense to a lot of people. >> there is another reason it's a sop to bernie sanders, that brings me my last question. have you ever spoken to bernie sanders? have you ever talked to him? >> no, i haven't. >> ever in your life talked to him? >> is he a tired man. he is exhausted. i think, frankly, in terms of his legacy. he wants to go home. >> there is only maybe two or three -- >> -- he is quite a bit older. he wants to go home and wants to go to bed. >> how do you know if you have never spoken to him. >> how do you know if you have never spoken to im. >> is he exhausted. for his legacy, he would have been better off playing it out. is he exhausted. he wants to go home and go to bed. bernie sanders people are

going to come to me, because you know why? i'm the best there is on trade. i'm going to make new trade deals and bring our jobs back to our country. >> all right. well, we always appreciate you making time for us. we know how busy you are. we have your running mate mike pence on tomorrow. that should be interesting. we will get him to define his view of the world. mr. trump, as always, thank you very much. >> thank you very much. thank you. >> never boring. and, again, mike pence will be with us on the factor tomorrow evening, next on the rundown tonight, why are the democrats avoiding mentioning the isis terror group? and, later, watters asking democrats about illegal immigration up ahead.

continuing now with our coverage of the democratic convention in philadelphia. joining us from that city kirsten powers. it's a little slow there right now. nothing much going on. everybody waiting for bill clinton talking the 10:00 hour. anything about donald trump's q and a that caught your attention? >> well, i have to say i'm getting a little tired of this thing that he is doing calling everybody tired and so now he is saying bernie sanders is exhausted and is he tired nothing to suggest this is true and hillary clinton needs a nap. by all accounts they have more energy than probably anybody that we know. so, you know, this kind of weird childish disses, you know, i just think are getting a little old. >> a little humorous that bernie is a little tired and needs a happen? don't you think it's a little humorous? >> i don't think it's humorous. this is like the low energy jeb thing. i don't think he is doing it to be humorous. i think is he trying to cast them as being old and tired. >> how old is bernie? do you know?

74? 7 a? >> i think he is about 74. and like i said, he has as much energy as anybody i can think of. >> bernie has a lot of energy, that's for sure. >> yeah. >> what was interesting to me teddy and today as well though we haven't tallied it all up. no mention of isis terrorism, even though there is a mention of terrorism in the news today. none. platform doesn't deal with it nothing. like it doesn't exist worldwide terrorism. what's that all about? >> so i talked to the clinton campaign and what they said was last night wasn't about foreign policy. it was really focused much more on economic issues. but that coming up in other nights, probably tomorrow night that there will -- they will talk about national security. i did ask, are you going to talk specifically about isis? and they said they couldn't say for sure whether isis would be specifically named but definitely national security would be talked about because hillary clinton is going to be talking about how she is running on day one and how dangerous donald trump is. >> it's a pretty big issue. wouldn't you like to hear what nina dunham thinks

about isis into sn she could have thrown out a few% what she would have- ---few materials on what she would have few pearls on terrorism. >> do you know what it is defeating worldwide terrorism? >> hillary clinton gave a speech yesterday. about her plans for combating isis. essentially, what she has said is not that different than one of the things donald trump has said which is she is going to focus on intelligence-gathering and trying to expand intelligence gathering. unlike trump she would not say she is going to bomb the hell out of people so she is not talking about any kind of military intervention but that seems to be like the primary thing that she is focused on. >> intelligence gathering. what do you do with the intelligence if you don't have the will to use ground troops? what good does it do? >> i'm not convinced that hillary clinton doesn't have the will to use ground troops. >> you can point to anything that's indicated she might? >> just having followed her

for the last 20 years i have a pretty good sense she likes military interventions like the iraq war and libyan intervention. she isn't somebody who is really hesitant in my experience, unfortunately, i'm sorry? >> you think she is going to be tougher than president obama on that. >> tougher is a values judgment and suggest it would somehow be better. >> more aggressive. >> more likely to use the military i think he has actually been pretty aggressive. i think we disagree with this a lot in terms of using the drone warfare and expanding that war. but, yes. my sense is that she thought there was public support. i think she is a pretty hawkish person. and i think one of my concerns about her frankly. >> in her speech if thee she gets specific but i doubt she will. democrats don't have the heart for the fight at this point. that might change but right now they don't have the heart for it in my opinion. >> most americans don't want to use ground troops. >> i have got to go because i have to take a nap. and now -- >> -- i say that about you all the time. you are very tired, bill.

>> and i'm old and i need a nap desperately. but i can't take a nap before i talk to karl rove another old guy also in the city of brotherly love. you got your little board there, don't you? just show us i know you have your little board. >> there i do. you want to see that board you need that board. >> there it is. the board is basically and don't bore us with the board, that's a little pun spelled differently. the board basically says that trump did get a bounce from theonvention last week, right? >> yeah. >> he did get a bounce. >> yeah. >> it's all over the place? >> let's be careful we jumped on the cnn number which shows him rising six and hillary dropping four for a shift of 10 points but at the same time we had a cbs poll that shows him up four, her up three for a shift of 1 point. i think the best way to look at it real clear politics average which shons he has grown 5 points since the beginning of the republican convention. she has grown 1.1.

that give him about 4% bounce. that's slightly below what the average republican has received since 1964. but, above the bounce that mitt romney got four years ago. in fact, he got no bounce coming out of the convention. >> okay. now, historically, do the democrats do well coming out of their convention? yeah, look, since 1964 the democrats have had an offering bounce of about 5.9%, call it 6% and the republicans have had a bounce of about 4.9 or 5 points. they have historically had a bigger bounce coming out of their convention. look, it's all over the board. in 2000, al gore had an 8 point bounce and so did george w. bush. but they quickly melted away. that's the thing about these bounces we have got to be careful about. they are transitory. it is a result of people tuning in, primarily independents, tuning in and watching the convention, tuning in to politics briefly and then tuning out. and it's also about the consolidation of whatever

elements of the party that haven't sort of accustomed themselves or acclimated themselves to the nominee himself or herself. >> okay. >> they are transitory. >> i haven't given much coverage to the bernie sanders protests and they are out there again today yelling. i don't know what they're really yelling about. it's all over. yes, it was rigged. it was and all that but, bernie sanders -- i can't imagine bernie sanders supporters trump says he thinks he is going to get some of those people. i can't imagine that. can you? >> well, i think i can differentiate between the people who are in this audience and the people who voted for him. you have got a lot of independents, particularly in states with open primaries who are not that glued in to politics, are drawn by personalities, and might have been excited by bernie and not really hopped up on hillary clinton. here is the deal, bill, we won't know what that group looks like until we start to get more stability in the pulling. that is not happening now in july. that's going to happen in

five weeks when we get close to alicia day. close to labor day polling begins to reflect the dime knack nics of the fall campaign. suspicion is we'll likely see some defections from the democrats. but historically the democrats have had more defections than the republicans. republicans win when they get 91, 92% of the republicans. and the democrat gets 88%, 87%. that is to say they have half as many more people defecting from them as they are defecting from the republicans. we won't know until labor day whether that's the dynamic that might be in play in fall. >> after the first debate then the polls really kick in strong. >> absolutely. particularly since bill, we have this year the highest number of undecides that we have had since 1992. those debates are going to be high profile and high impact. >> that will be fun. directly ahead the democrats and illegal immigration. very touchy subject for the party. we have waters, juan williams, lisa booth on the case and donald trump and lawsuits. is it legal has been

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campaign 2016 segment tonight, one of the big issues will be illegal immigration in the campaign. republican party and donald trump support a massive wall on the southern border as you know. deportation of aliens in this country without documentation. last night i talked with the congressman luis gutierrez about how he would secure the southern border. >> what's the democratic party's vision on securing the border? what are they going to do? here's what we do, bill. as parts of immigration reform we take part of those here in the country and give them a background check. fantasy to think we are going to deport them all. >> i'm trying the third time, congressman. how do you secure the southern border? what do you do? >> here's what you do. you make sure that in our agricultural industry and, bill, i have traveled to florida. i have traveled to georgia.

i have traveled to california, you and i both know that there are millions of undocumented workers that work hard, sweat soil every day. to put the food on our table. >> you are not answering the question. i'm going to ask it the fourth time. >> he didn't. joining us now from philadelphia, lisa booth and juan williams. so, juan, i men, the congressman is obviously doblegging a very simple question. why do you think he did that? >> well, i think it's a symbolic issue for republicans. it's pretty clear in the polls, two thirds of americans oppose a wall. but if you want an answer and i think bill o'reilly deserves a concrete answer i would say guess what? we get more agents, we use high resolution cameras and use drones. but, bill, all of that has already been in bills you are doing the same thing gutierrez did. i'm going to speak slowly. >> you go. >> why didn't the congressman answer the

question? i think he chose not to enat question in the way that you wanted. >> an it how would you secure the border and he wants to touring a gri cull turelg land. >> i saw that interview. you said a $10,000 fine would do the trick. he said he wanted pack ground checks. >> you are blathering. lisa why don't you think that congressman guterres wouldn't answer the question. >> the democratic party supports lawlessness when it comes to immigration. we have seen that with the 340 sanctuary cities across the country or the fact that the supreme court and lower courts struck down president obama's illegal executive action on immigration. even hillary clinton herself gave illegal immigrants a platform at the democratic national convention yesterday and one of those illegal immigrants facing deportation order from the federal government that she is egg for she doesn't want

to deport them. do you believe in open borders, congressman? no. that was the only question he answered in the six minute interview. no. okay. only one he answered. all right. i said okay. you don't believe in it. how would you secure the border? and then he telling me travel to kansas, he went to alberta, canada. once he visited that hit at this, my head is exploding. >> okay, look, you wanted. >> i wanted how are we going to secure the border, juan? >> no. no but anybody can tell you how to do it. >> but he wouldn't, juan? he didn't. >> the wall 2,000 miles long and pay billions of dollars and you are not hearing this but you should hear it once is that this is not a realistic answer even more drones, all that we said about more agents, obama the doubled the budget. they think immigration is to blame for every problem.

>> see if you agree with me, lisa. the real problem congressman guterres didn't answer the simple question of how would you secure the border is because he wants a border that's open. he wants it. >> exactly. >> they don't want any ini had bations on people coming in here. they want a europe where anybody that's what they want. go ahead, lisa, you are absolutely right. he doesn't want to secure the border. democrats don't want to secure the border. they don't have the stomach or care about the issue. that's a big problem because we should be looking at what is happening to europe. their immigration problem. and we should be taking notes. because the reality is that terrorists have been apprehended at the southern border. that is fact. you also just look -- that fact. look at the criminal justice system. one in four inmates are i will locally immigrants. this is a problem we faces a the country but the democratic party including juan himself do not care about the issue and they don't want to address the issue because they support lawlessness. >> anything in the platform, the democratic platform and i don't think hillary clinton is going to say a word about how she would

secure the border. it's the same thing with the isis thing. they are not going to say how they would do it. they will say we don't like isis and going to get them but not say how. >> do you say that to trump? does trump tell you how is he going to take on isis? >> is he going to take their oil and then is he going to take their socks take their socks so they can't walk in the desert it's going to be too hot on their feet. >> there we go. you and lisa bring in terrorism. you are far away from the idea that we should find a solution. >> according to federal documents apprehended at the southern border. >> you guys can continue yelling at each other but i have to go. all right. but, again, i will tell you and i don't think there is going to be any border security or any isis in the democratic platform. i hope i'm wrong. now, let's go to waters. we asked him to sample opinion from some democratic folks in philly about the illegal alien problem. >> is.

>> i love your hat. >> thank you my hat loves. >> you the feeling is mutual. >> take it and like it. >> do you support open borders? >> i believe in a borderless planet. i also believe in a commerce free planet. it's a bunch of bs. >> hello, fellow, you nor the speaking my language. >> i believe people should come here and we should accept them with open arms. our farmers wouldn't be able to survive without them. >> are you talking about dangerous people coming through the border? that's going to happen and they are coming through anyways. more so good people are going to come through the borders. educated people. people who want a better life for themselves. my parents came here and we overstayed our visa and ronald reagan allowed us to be citizens. >> ba ba ba ba ba ba ba ba ba ba. >> i just helped a couple people that just immigrated from canada. what makes them not illegal immigrants? >> what about you and canada? >> how do you have a country

if you don't have a border? >>. in crickets chirping] >> very good i thought it over. >> do you think a wall on the southern border would work? >> no. >> why not? >> i think a wall around trump tower would work just great. >> mexico is going to pay for the wall. >> what would do you to secure the southern border? >> nothing. borders are the problem. >> >> we are a land of immigrants opening and welcoming everybody. that's how you grow and diversify the economy. >> we need to have adequate security. you would have to pass immigration reform so you don't have border security overwhelmed with chasing people 300 miles inland and breaking up families. >> you have a good day. >> we are on a schedule, thank you. >> illegal immigration is not a hot topic for me. you know, you want to ask me about bernie policies. i'm all about that. things important to republicans are not important to me. do you know who kate steinle was? >> i do not. >> there salah called kate's

law. so if you are illegal immigrant that's been deported and convicted of aggravated felony you are facing five years mandatory in prison. do you support that? >> no. >> that's not cool. you tonight come here and hurt people. >> you support keeping illegal alien felons out of the country. >> they are felons, i mean if we can prove that. >> illegal aliens convicted of aggravated felony already deported, mandatory minimum five years. do you support that? >> i -- you know -- i -- i would not mind supporting something to that effect. >> yea. >> it's time. >> many people say o'reilly is a genius on fox news. [ laughter ] >> what do you think about that? >> i think he has his moments. >> i think is he a pompous beep. >> suit yourself, i'm easy.

>> do you know who i am? >> come on, man. >> you are the guy standing outside the hillary book signing? >> no. >> excite to do get your book signed by hillary? >> i was busted. >> do you know who i am? >> i haven't got a clue. >> i'm watters -- and this is my world. that means absolutely nothing to me. ha ha, ha ha ha. >> all right. here is watters on the floor of the convention. was there anyone, anyone there who didn't want open borders? no, and they don't want to admit it. bottom line is, bill, they want illegal immigration because hispanics generally support democrats. that's the big secret. everyone knows it. but no one wants to admit it. >> did they all tell you that off the record? because what i got was they just don't care about the issue. let everybody in. i want a borderless world. let them all in and that's it. i really believe that is a

big part of the democratic party. >> one gentleman told me we should give back texas to mexico because we illegally not our land. >> did she say that today? i think eva longoria mentioned that. >> she was booed off the stage, actually. >> why? was she really? >> no, she was not booed and she didn't say that no. i want to make that point clear she was not booed you were being booed. >> if they are booing eva i want to get involved. >> you need to protect eva. >> tomorrow your assignment is this, ready? ask the folks to tell you one good thing about donald trump. one. >> it's going to be a very short segment. >> i can't wait. got to think of one good thing, right? one? >> all right. maybe one. >> do the thing with

republicans about hillary. that applause is for you, watters. thank you very much. >> i know, thank you. thank you. thank you. >> we'll come right back. hillary clinton says donald trump is stiff. a bunch of business people and lawsuits prove it is it legal is investigating for us moments away. ♪ ♪ it's here, but it's going by fast. the opportunity of the year is back: the mercedes-benz summer event. get to your dealer today for incredible once-a-season offers, and start firing up those grilles. lease the c300 for $379 a month at your local mercedes-benz dealer. mercedes-benz. the best or nothing.

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right by some working americans. >> he has been involved in more than 300 lawsuits in the last 30 -- 3500 lawsuits in the last 30 years. largest number filed by ordinary americans and small businesses that did work for trump and never got paid not because he couldn't pay them but because he could stiff them. >> so we asked our is it legal team to investigate that allegation and here they are lis wiehl and kimberly guilfoyle. what did you find out, wile. >> he has been involved in 3500 lawsuits over the last 30 years. he has been the plaintiff in 1900 of those lawsuits. he has been a defendant in 1450. bankruptcy suits or third party suits in 150 of them. he has been victorious in 451. these are clear resolution suits. a lot of times they will settle or you can't really resolve them. he has been victorious in

451 and he has lost 38. so 451 to 38. >> he is ahead. >> by many, many, many let me go through a few more stats. 500 has been dismissed and 175 have been settled. now, mrs. clinton talked about ordinary american lawsuits we were able to discover 06. >> 60. >> over a 30 year period. >> 1.7 lawsuits a year. >> 1.7, wow. very impressive. >> all right. i want to stop you there. let the audience absorb what they have heard and go to guilfoyle in philadelphia for an extrapolation. whoa. how about that? huh? of what wiehl what wiehl just gave us. what does this tell you? >> this boils down to donald trump isn't afraid to use the american court system, yes, to advance his interest but also to defend himself,

which is his right to do so. and the majority of the cases have been coming from casinos, which you oftentimes have to use the court system in order to enforce a judgment when someone owes you money so from our examination it's pretty thorough. >> 7500 lawsuits. >> 1700 are casinos 1700? >> that's people who lost money and didn't pay their debt? >> correct ship and fall at casinos or mar-a-lago, et cetera. >> i'm going to be accused of being bias or whatever, but it seems to me that the charges against trump here are really not true. that he is some kind of guy who is stiffing everybody. >> just look at the numbers is that true or not? >> that is absolutely true, looking at the numbers. >> secretary clinton implied in her speech really isn't the case? >> it is not the case. i'm not -- we're not being

biased just look at the stats. >> bill, based on the facts it is a false and misleading statement. that's the fact when you look at the break down. >> we want to be very precise because you know how vicious these people are. these people are the fox haters. so, we have found out that of the 3500, guilfoyle, more than half were casino beefs from people who didn't pay or fell down. only 60, 6-0 over 30 years were workers who said trump didn't pay me what i'm owed; is that correct? >> yes, that's correct. when you look at this, it goes personal injury, real estate disputes 300. government and taxes 165. contract disputes 125. over 30 years. >> i don't want to overwhelm everybody. now, one get for you real fast. guilfoyle, thanks a lot. we appreciate it. planned parenthood, the two people who went under cover,

right? >> right. >> charged in harris county, texas, that's houston. >> right. >> they have dropped the charges. >> dropped the charges on a technicality in texas that they really ran out of time. that the grand jury really ran out of time. it's a strange texas law that when you have an investigation that goes on too long in a grand jury -- >> -- they couldn't come to any conclusion who violated the law by doing these stipulation on planned parenthood? so they are in the clear. >> they are totally in the clear. >> except in california though? >> right. >> something going on there. >> right. in texas all the charges are dropped. >> wanted to bring everybody up to date on that just happened today thank you very much. >> yes. >> geraldo getting water dumped on him by protesters in philly. we will show you the tape. then the tip of the day on michelle obama's assertion that slaves built the white house upcoming. ♪ ♪ ♪

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back of the book segment tonight. what the heck just happened? now, our pal geraldo likes to hang with the protesters. that's the kind of demented guy he is. stems back from the '60s. he thinks he's young again. here's what happened to rivera in philly just a little while ago. >> it hurts people. >> you don't even know what i do.

>> [ bleep ]. >> time to go. time to go. >> all right. >> you are not welcome here. >> well, yeah, that's not for you to say. >> you are not welcome here. >> that's not for you to say. >> it's black lives matter. >> black lives matter? is that what he said at the end of that? >> that's what he said. >> gutfeld, what do you think? >> clearly geraldo was all wet, not unlike that time after al capone's vault. but you know what? it's very, very hot out there, and perhaps that protester was doing geraldo a favor. it's like 93 degrees. i would have been grateful to get a nice, cool splash of water all over my sweaty, sweaty body. >> have you been out there, gutfeld? is it menacing out there with these people? >> well, as you know, i'm not a man of the people. i'm a man of isolation. i spend a lot of time in my hotel room crying and reading

poetry. so i stay away from everybody. >> all right. so you don't know. >> no. >> when was in cleveland, there were protesters, but police had them much more under control. >> yes. >> than the philadelphia police have. and watters got hassled a little bit as well. it's a dangerous situation. you've got to be careful. >> it's unlikely that it was a sanders supporter because to give away free stuff like his water is just not his character. >> you had the black lives matter at the end, so i thuink e know -- that was a clue. originally before this happened, we asked gutfeld and mcguirk to come up with some insane moments at both conventions. >> the first one is at the republican national convention last week, ted cruz, the night he gave the speech, that morning or that afternoon, he was giving a speech to some supporters, and while he was giving the speech, he mentioned donald trump and trump's plane came by while he was speaking. and it was this incredible

stagecraft. >> you think god did that? >> well, i just -- yes, i think the deity is on trump's side, but he's lucky in retrospect he didn't get strafed. what happened to him later when he was received by bill clinton at a democratic rally but exited like bill cosby at a feminist rally. >> last night when eva longoria said we didn't cross the border, the border crossed us, imagine if somebody breaks into your house and says, i didn't break into your house, the house broke into me. or somebody steals your lunch from the workplace kitchen refrigerator. oh, i didn't steal your lunch. the lunch stole me. she just helped elect donald trump because she just said that our borders are illegitimate. >> well, i think it's a beef that goes back to the mexican war. >> right. >> and zachary taylor as we all know -- >> good friend of mine. >> marched into part of eastern mexico and defeated the mexican army, and then we took what we

wanted. i mean simple as that. >> that never happens around the world. >> that's the way it is. >> i haven't forgiven it, and there are parts of southern california i would like to give back to mexico. i'm not going to mention any towns in particular. >> come and take it. >> any other crazy stuff? >> cnn yesterday were out in the streets. there was a big protest going on, and jake tapper, in the middle of this heated protest, he throws it back to the hall for a performance of boys to men. it was unbelievable. >> come on, it's a good group. >> it would be like walter concite in '68, the streets of chicago throwing it to the hall for a performance like the turtles. >> the turtles is a must-see. anything else for us, gutfeld? >> when michelle obama said don't let anyone tell you this country isn't great, i would add unless it was me eight years ago. >> i wasn't going to bring that up, but the boys did. gentlemen, thank you.

now the factor tip of the day. slaves building the white house. what's the truth? but first, great news about "legends & lies: the patriots," the highest rated show once again last weekend of all cable news. it's amazing because of all the politics. but we trounced everybody. this coming sunday, george washington as president. we'll show you a clip of that tomorrow. please don't forget the book "legends & lies" the patriots, a complement to the tv program. kids like it. remains one of the hottest selling books in the usa. now the mail. joy brown, atlanta. i'm extremely offended by krauthammer's comments implying that only white men are supporting trump. mr. o'reilly, please discuss your courageous commentary with someone other than charles. why, joy? robust debate makes the factor stand out. let the best argument win. bob ballard, columbia, tennessee. mr. trump not giving specifics about his stated goals is fine. we want to believe him. but not everybody is that

bullish on trump, bob. in order to win over those undecided folks he needs, he might have to add more details. patty, bedford, massachusetts. o'reilly, why did the factor skip over the young disabled woman who gave a speech? it's a shame your listeners missed it. we're analyzing the events of the day, patty. as i stated last night, c-span covers all the speeches. thomas archibald, ar tia, new mexico. congressman gutters is exhibit a. why president reagan said the immigration act he signed was the biggest mistake of his presidency. we can find no such statement from ronald reagan, tom. if you have it, please send it to me. having written the book "killing reagan" i feel i know the president pretty well. i don't believe he repudiated that piece of legislation. dr. stuart ramos, puerto rico. bill, i don't understand why you like congressman gutierrez. he opposes statehood for p.r. shame on you. why shame on me, doc? i don't evaluate folks on their politics unless they're dishonest.

gutierrez has been respectful to this program and he's excellent to deal with. i have lots of friends who i don't agree with politically. all i ask is honesty and loyalty, come on. marco in santa clara, california. o'reilly, very happy with billoreilly.com premium member and the tie i bought with the discount. when will the killing patton movie be made? we are in preproduction. killing reagan is done, however, and it will be shown on the national gee oh graphic channel october 23rd. you're going to like it. leslie wood, missouri. o'reilly, quit writing good books. i'm doing nothing but reading. well, good for you, leslie. it's better than committing felonies. four more killing books coming. killing the rising sun out on september 13th. you can preorder it now on billoreilly.com, and you can get it first if you do that, or you get it free if you sign up for p.m. status. finally tonight, factor tip of the day. as we mentioned talking points memo, michelle obam slaves building the white house in referring to the evolution of

america in a positive way. it was a positive comment. the history behind her remark is fascinating. george washington selected the site in 1791, and laid the cornerstone in 1792. washington was then running the country out of philadelphia. slaves did participate in the construction of the white house. records show about 400 payments made to slave masters between 1759 and 1801. in addition, free blacks, whites, and immigrants also worked on the massive building. there were no illegal immigrants at that time. if you could make it here, you could stay here. in 1800, president john adams took up residence in what was then called the executive mansion. it was only later on they named it the white house. but adams was in there with abi gail and they were still hammering nails. the construction was still going on. slaves that worked there were

well fed and had decent lodgings provided by the government, which stopped hiring slave labor in 1802. however, the feds did not forbid subcontractors from using slave labor. so michelle obama is essentially correct in siting slaves as builders of the white house but there were others working as well. got it all? there will be a quiz. just p factor tip of the day. i just can't get rid of that history teacher thing. you know what i'm talking about? that is it for us tonight. please check out the knfox news factor website. spout off at o'reilly at foxnews.com. name and town if you wish to opine. word of the day, do not be risible when writing to the factor. tomorrow, governor mike pence. first interview on the factor. we'll have him here. live show, 8:00. and i am bill o'reilly, please always remember that the spin stops here because we are definitely looking out for you.

breaking tonight, history in the making here at the democratic national convention where, for the first time ever, a former president will speak on behalf of his wife, who made history of her own tonight, becoming the first female presidential nominee of a major party. welcome to "the kelly file," everyone. i'm megyn kelly. a mere 471 days ago, hillary clinton announced she was seeking her party's nomination for president. today she reached that goal, but it did not come without controversy. prior to roll call, mixed reaction rang out when congresswoman tulsi gabbard of hawaii said this about bernie sanders. listen. >> i am truly