>> see you an an hour. "outnumbered" starts right now. ♪ harris: one for the history books they say. hillary clinton can now ditch the presumptive from her title becoming the first woman to win the nomination of a major american political party. and on this day three of the democratic convention here in philadelphia, president obama will take the stage, welcome to philly, everybody. we're out and about. we're "outnumbered." i'm harris faulkner. here today, sandra smith, host of "kennedy" on fox business, kennedy herself. democratic strategist julie roginsky and today's #oneluckyguy, co-host of "fox & friends weekend," tucker carlson is in the house.

he is outnumbered. hello, welcome to philly. >> thanks for having me. in the fox tent. >> safe space, right, tuckter. >> and it's a big tent. harris: they told me later they will have wedding. sandra: air condition something working today which is a plus. harris: let's move, shall we? we'll get to the president's big speech in a few minutes. first the history we witnessed together. even though we knew the outcome, no less than emotional moment for many. south dakota put hillary clinton over the top. then a heart-stopping move by bernie supporters to bridge the party divide. >> madam chair, i move that the convention suspend the procedural rules. i move that all votes, all votes cast by delegates be reflected in the official record and i move that hillary clinton be selected as the nominee of the democratic party for president

of the united states. [cheers and applause] harris: will his millions loving supporters follow his lead? we'll follow that part of story as it happens. in another big moment in the stage craft, the presidential nominee herself, live from new york, via the jumbo screen at the wells fargo arena, thanking her supporters helping her reach an historical milestone. watch? >> what an incredible honor that you have given me, and i can't believe we put the biggest crack in that glass ceiling yet. this is really your victory, this is really your night. and, if there are any little girls out there who stayed up late to watch, let me just say, i may become the first woman president but one of you is next. thank you all. i can't wait to join you in philadelphia, thank you! [applause]

harris: also last night a side of hillary perhaps we rarely see. personal stories told by a parade of speakers, including her husband bill, the former president. >> we saw hillary's heart, her heart, when as first lady she worked across party lines to bring health care to millions and millions of children. >> she walked into my hospital room, and she took my bandaged hand into her own. our connection wasn't between a senator and a constituent. >> the real one calls you when you're sick, when your kid's in trouble or when there is a death in the family. the real one repeatedly drew praise from prominent republican when she was senator and secretary of state. harris: tucker, biggest moment of the night for you? >> hillary clinton finally revealed her rationale for running for president, that is making a dent in the glass seals

as she said. the questions sprang to my mind, two of them. one, does anybody under 50 really care, see this as reason for voting her? not anyone i ever met. rule campaign slogan, i'm a woman, vote for me. that is identity politics at it is basis. it is great, knowing who the mvp of 1956 nba all-star game is great fact to know, but if it is not then what exactly about her chromosomal makeup, the fact she is woman will make her better president? if we're going to run, let's get really specific, what are the upsides or the downsides. harris: maybe a little evidence what you're saying 102-year-old woman who stood up for arizona to ring in her roll call for her state and the point was so made on this, that when she was born, women couldn't vote. so like tucker is saying that was such a the past narrative. sandra: didn't exactly grab the younger voter which she continues to struggle with.

i wonder if bill clinton, her husband, made a mistake not addressing the personal controversies, because playing victim, one could argue has helped hillary clinton. so did he do her a disservice by in the bringing up their past? >> here is the obvious question. the country is in trouble. may not be as dark as trump explained it last thursday night but by every measurement it is in trouble. americans certainly feel it is in trouble the what exactly does her gender do for me as a middle class voter? no one is even bothering to ask that question. i want to hear the answer. harris: kennedy hearing tucker say the country is in trouble you wouldn't have known so much by what we saw last night. this was very positive. that is very good. the republicans got criticized for being more gloom and doom, who is getting it right is what voters have to figure out? >> i think the truth to that is somewhere in the middle d obviously benefits republicans to talk about how, or highlight the direness of the situation we're in right now. that helps --

harris: which is dire. >> make the argument there has to be a shift. in many ways it is dire. look at economy, look at labor participation rate. look at terror, global and domestic you can find all sorts of reasons something has to change but the ostrich theory doesn't help either. why do you think there are more people protesting in the streets in philadelphia, tenfold than there were in cleveland? because people are upset with the party that has been in power because their personal have not benefited. therefore that narrative doesn't fly with those people and we'll see if it does with the majority of voters. harris: for those people who were or fannic to ohio, not protesters coming in from the outside, they're enjoying the kind of the benefits of having a republican governor who has been able to have a lot of success if financially in his state. you can't say that about pennsylvania. maybe it is difference in their own personal experience. >> well, first of all, this is lot more accessible than ohio. northeast corridor and all transportation hubs. easier to get here.

secondly, bill clinton to some extent, give him a b-minus on the speech. i think he spent way too much times of origin of her love story, didn't ring true. there is big elephant in the room, all of us felt there was big elephant in the room. i don't know that he should have addressed the elephant in the room. harris: what was the elephant named? email? >> went by a woman's name who i won't necessarily mention with dress same color as mine. harris: let's say her name. monica lewinsky. >> rhymes with roginsky but not the same. but part are with i thought he was strongest talking about her as mother, that was very poignant. i also liked fact he talked about her work was direct rebuttal to all the people saying what has she accomplished. he went row by row and item by item what she has done. which. harris: unfortunately so late in the speech. many people may have not seen as much rest may points as they did mothering skills.

identity politics to some. sandra: tried to sell her on a couple different levels. president clinton using his 42-minute speech to make the case hillary is champion of the underclass and should be trusted, saying people who know the real hillary clinton can attest to that. watch. >> the real one has earned a loyalty, respect and fervent support of people who worked with her, in every stage of her life, including leaders around the world who know her to be able, straightforward and completely trustworthy. sandra: but clinton failed to mention a few things including his wife's fbi email probe or other scandals that have raised serious questions about her honesty. he also dismissed the notion his wife would represent the status quo. >> she is a natural leader, a good organizer. she is the best darn change maker i ever met in my entire life. sandra: but a short time ago at a news conference donald trump

saying clinton would not bring change to washington.nge, she hs been there for 30 years. she has been doing this for 30 years. what is she going all of sudden things are going to change? she is bought and sold, 100% by special interests and lobby i haves. -- lobbiests. >> so most of us were able to watch most of that news conference and tucker, he said clinton knew about the dnc email scandal. she has been there 30 years. she will not brink change. said hrc is disaster and if elected would be bad for women? >> you're get being back to the central problem of her campaign once again, what is it about? you can't simultaneously be a change agent as her husband promised last night and be a steady hand on tiller in contrast to trump's radicalism. either you're a calm, experienced person who is going to make sober decisions or you will overthrow the existing order. you can't do both. gets back again what she is running on her gender.

smartest thing, republicans don't want to call her on this because they're afraid to be attacked on this. at bernie supporter said, female president assures me as much as female cop, not so much. that was bernie protester. that is stupid. adobe nights the country. harris: "new york times" article that you and i know read point out many woman are not really feeling the urgency for this milestone moment because they're seeing some in their lifetime. >> we may have seen that in our lifetime, tucker you commented from perspective afy. i think for a lot of women out there it is significant. i happen to not think electing somebody just because a woman is something we should do. i don't suscribe to that. many people and polling shows. sandra: usually want to elect somebody you can trust, believe you can trust. latest cnn poll, this came out last week, kennedy, 68% of

respondent said clinton was not trustworthy. "cbs news poll" came out with almost identical figures. how can people elect somebody you don't trust. how can you change that this late in the game. >> i don't think logic, and i think offensive identity politics tucker focuses on. because she is woman, therefore she would necessarily be a good president for women. that is not true. all this converges is about more government regulation, more infringement, which erodes people's rights and it is harsh on the economy, harsher than it has been. that is bad for men. that is bad for women. it is bad for the individual when the collective will ultimately make the decisions for us and that is what fills up their laundry list, speech after speech after speech. it is controlling your life and that is bad. it destroys freedom. sandra: by the way that "wall street journal" piece, for some women gender isn't enough. points out a lot of thing, more women graduate from college now

than men. they're the main breadwinners in four of 10 u.s. households. they're running fortune 500 companies. it will take a little bit more to excite women to vote for a woman. kennedy: we also don't have the luxury right now. if we were in a period of calm and great financial and economic success, we would have the luxury of voting for someone based on something like gender. sandra: fox news, the place to be for all day and all evening coverage of the democratic national convention. 4:00 p.m. eastern outnumbered wants to be your digital hangout. harris: i can't wait. sandra: harris is jazzed. foxnews.com/outnumbered. also on facebook live and all the fox news apps. come out, hang out with us on the web at 4:00 eastern. we'll be at convention center in the skybox. harris: "outnumbered" without commercials. sandra: tonight in philadelphia president obama will try to make the case that hillary clinton is ready to be the next commander-in-chief. but some say her time in the

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♪ harris: president obama and vice president biden will speak prime time at democratic convention tonight. they are expected to make case, hillary clinton, former secretary of state is expected to be next commander-in-chief. the president was asked in an interview what he would like the headline to be after his remarks >> i hope my headline, that the president of the united states is profoundly optimistic about america's future. and, and is, 100% convinced that hillary clinton can be a great president.

harris: well on that last part he may have to work pretty hard to convince some voters of it. ones who are exactly what exactly mrs. clinton can claim as accomplishments of secretary of state. tucker a fair question. what is your answer? harris: that is your answer to a lot of questions today. >> that is literally her answer. i know i'm mocking. you're not supposed to do that, you offend people. that is literally true. harris: you can speak the truth. >> i'm a great mother. i'm willing to believe that she kept her marriage together i totally admire that. i am not being sarcastic. i think she is perfectly fine, whatever, but can you point to a discrete policy implementation she can brag about? if she could she would be. harris: are they going to be julie. >> talk about her accomplishments at state. sandra: i'm leaning back. >> a few minutes ago -- republican nominee, you this quote, russia if you're

listening i hope you're able to find 30,000 emails. harris: watch him say it. rachel in the booth, can we roll it? from a-2. very good. tv talk. >> if it is russia, which it is probably not, nobody knows who it is but if it is russia, really bad for a different reason. because it shows how little respect they have for us, in our country, when they would hack into a major party, and get everything. but it would be interesting to see, i will tell you this. russia, if you're listening, i hope you're able to find the 30,000 emails that are missing. harris: okay. julie roginsky is doing a face palm. you're laughing. >> my head is about to explode. >> just shows how little respect putin's government has for our

email security. is there anyone imagined putin respected united states to the point where he would say to his intelligence service, don't hack the email. i would respect those guys. >> wait a second, republican nominee in very treasonnist act ask a foreign power to hack an american political opponent. >> what? i thought he was saying we want emails back. >> no, let me quote again, if you're reading i hope you're able to find the 30,000 emails. how are they going to find them. >> what he was saying they already stole them. they have them. can he return them to us. harris: that is how everybody is -- >> that is not how anybody outside of cable. >> if trump means that he will say it again. he is not ashamed -- >> wait a second. wait a second. excuse me this is man who has been sucking up to vladmir putin, who wants to abrogate our alliance to nato until they pay up some sort of bounty. wouldn't defend lobbyists. harris: you have evidence of that, is that what he said. >> i can read you quotes on this.

this is vladmir putin favorite candidate. putin in the kremlin ecstatic. harris: he didn't tell them to hack it though. he said you got the emails. you've already hacked. i've been making all week long, if they hacked into the dnc you can bet the server in her basement was not as well protected. >> not how anybody read it. kennedy: one prove depositional thing about hillary clinton's email scandals how vulnerable private systems can be. fbi, cia, and poking around the rnc and dnc if they were safe. they warned dnc they had malicious hackers. harris: none of the servers were any in basements. >> president obama is preparing to take the stage. there are questions about his own legacy, specifically concerns what a trump victory will likely undo and much of the president's work like his signature affordable care act. to that end the president not sitting back, administration

aides say he will be pushing hard to make sure clinton wins, noting they have already cleared his calendar for much of october to campaign for her. because as he told nbc's "today show," anything could happen on election day. >> i've seen all kinds of crazy stuff happen, and i think anybody who goes into campaigns not running scared can end up losing. you stay worried until all those votes are cast and counted because one of the dangers in an election like this is that people don't take the challenge seriously. sandra: all right. tucker. obama is take the stage tonight. will he help her? >> i think he will. obama is personally popular. right track, wrong track number is under water a lot. people very concerned about the number. they give him personally benefit doubt. he is over 50, a good place to

be for him and hillary clinton. sandra: i'm sure he will mention that. >> say one thing in one sentence, so struck by unwillingness of people in power to address trump's message. he is goon, scary, demagogue. that's fine. what is he saying. nobody wants to address the text of his speech on thursday? where was he wrong? hoe don't bother. how shallow. harris: all right. kennedy: what i will say bill clinton last night made contrast between the real hillary clinton and fake one, cartoon that the republicans have drawn but really all the democrats have done is create the same kind of caricature of donald trump. i hope the president does more than just attack donald trump tonight. and i know, like he can't give the same flowery, boring, winding, meandering pointless speech that bill clinton gave last night. he can't help himself, i thought bill clinton would do this last night. i think president tonight will talk about his policy successes but what he really needs to talk about intersection of theirs while she was secretary of

state, specifically libya and iran and basis of that iran deal. >> first of all he will not talk about that because that is not what he wants to talk about. what republicans may want him to talk about. not what he wants to talk about. he will vouch for her. >> if he talks about her success, context of their time together secretary of state. >> will not bring up benghazi rub republicans right here. sandra: not about benghazi. what about deposing qaddafi. >> here is what he is going to do. one person aside from bernie sanders who i think can unify factions of this party. he is one person because he is most popular democrat in the democratic party besides possibly his wife, who can address what his legacy would mean with donald trump as president, versus what it would mean for her being president. i think he is one person out there, say to the bernie people, listen, you may not like 100% of what i did but you were with me in 2008 against this woman. you trusted me. i don't think i've let you down. maybe i let you down. harris: may be a lot of truth to

what you just said being able to reach out to bernie supporters because if you look at everybody else who has taken the stage, president obama who may be only one legitimately say he understands and put forth policies would be democratic socialist light, if you will. >> no. harris: he might pull some of those supporters over. >> i'm not sure he will characterize it that way. >> can the president convince people to be robotic apranch chicks like bernie sanders? i'm serious. this is one part of the democratic party -- kennedy: they're not democrat. they're progressive. they're married to the message not married to the party. harris: turning around a ship of emotion more than just politically reaching out. tough reach them right here. it will be interesting. we'll be watching. covering it. sandra: bernie sanders supporters they're not giving up. hundreds protesting outside of the dnc last night after hillary clinton made history by becoming the party's official nominee. can she turn these sanders

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♪ kennedy: welcome back, this is "outnumbered" from philly. we are at the dnc. hundreds of bernie sanders supporters walk the out of the dnc in protest last night after hillary clinton was officially named her party's presidential nominee. the protesters gathering outside, some taking part in a silent sit-in while others far more vocal, shouting, burning the american flag. [cheering] [bleep] i'm such a rebel. sanders himself urged everyone

to unite behind clinton. obviously have yet to heed those calls. tucker, is it healthy for the party that you have such a vocal group of people who knew the end was coming, yet they refuse to accept it? >> the flag burning is disgusting. that is entitled rich kid wing of the bernie movement. kennedy: bernie bros. >> they can go away. bulk of bernie supporters are your people left out of the economic progress of last decade or some they are a old-fashioned liberals and never gave up old-fashioned liberal values. i don't mean that as an at attack at all. parties should be about something, other than acquiring wilding power. democratic party, hillary clinton that is all it is about. kennedy: i was with jill stein, we were at wells fargo as bernie sanders conceded nomination. she was walking around hugging crying sanders supporters.

turned into impromptu press conference. she capitalized on message purity. it worked for many of them who are very curious as to her message, whether or not she is capable of caring that message. harris: that is what president obama is hoping to have a jill stein moment. somebody else's moment other than hillary clinton's to bring out voters who really wanted bernie sanders and were in tears tonight. they should rest easy, knowing power rests in their hands. they are the future of the people. look at numbers of these people, how young they are in messaging people like senator warren held her powder dry this time around. i don't think it is accident. i don't know how hard advocacy pulling to be vp choice. she niece she has a future and constituency that dwarfs any the past establishment. >> will we be this complimentary, never trump people, ted cruz of world got

booed, and almost run out of the convention? >> complimentary? we're acknowledging these people. >> we're saying they're so ethical about their beliefs and so great -- harris: they got acknowledged too. >> they did. are we acknowledging donald trump has equally if not larger problem he has governor of biggest swing state in the governor, john kasich, who's own staff after he slammed kasich in cleveland last week they will not work very hard for donald trump in ohio? harris: they haven't up to this point. >> the difference. you make totally fair point. not dismissing it. talk to bernie people. what are they for? give you nine things they're for. i'm for open borders and carried interest and they pretend they hate trump because he is vulgar and crazy. don't admit their own idealogical agenda. >> kennedy doing sign language. if you're ted cruz he believes he real conservative. >> okay. kennedy: here is the difference the ted cruz fans, members of

the constitutionalists are still republicans. they still consider themselves to be republicans. bernie supporters are conveniently democratic because that's where their independent, socialist planted himself. okay. so that is where they sprouted. that is where,. >> has to vote for somebody. he won't vote for trump. kennedy: maybe he votes for gary johnson. more than two people in this race. not one mention of isis on day one of the democratic convention. a few speakers did mention the terrorists on day two. but not very often. whether democrats are in denial. right after the show, catch more from the curved desk. we'll call it the couch. clicking overtime tab, foxnews.com/outnumbered. it is o-t, baby. put it to bed. also facebook.com/outnumberedfnc. tweet us as well, your questions, comments, worries, your concerns. we'll see you there.

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problems is our fight against radical islamic terrorism and they're in denial and they won't even mention it or isis. sandra: all right. so what do you think? are they in denial about the threats that we face, tucker? >> doesn't comport with their world view. the real threats are threats created by america always. our bad police. our cfcs going into the atmosphere. bat additudes or middle class, too heavily armed or too religious. problem with isis in democratic world view they are utterly foreign and poor countries different from us culturally. wait, they're monsters. completely frazzles the liberal brain. if it could be proved isis was headquartered in omaha, we would have a full-scale war against them, trust me. sandra: are you surprised, julie. bill clinton takes the stage, references isis only one reference to terrorism? >> wasn't surprised at bill clinton, surprised about mad din albright, took

references to isis out. bill clinton job not to be president. bill clinton's job to be mr. hillary rodham clinton, which is very bizarre and unprecedented scenario. there to humanize her as husband and father of their daughter and someone he called his and her best friend. he was not there to talk about policy. i'm not surprised about that i am surprised about madeleine albright, and surprised isis is not more of an issue. i'm surprised democrats don't view isis with as must urgency as republicans do. that is borne out poll after poll. harris: not like the topic is falling out of the sky for no reason. last week just before the convention and this week in the midst of a convention we've had terror attacks in different countries. had munich, germany, this week you had paris where the church attack happened. sympathizer to the islamic state savages. you talk about how we go after these guys. the french have been moved so

much to go after isis, going into their own mosques and raiding them and looking for sympathizers and those preaching against democracy and so on, so forth. they would want to kill people not like them. they're pros tell sizing, to go to syria to be trained. the fact democrats wouldn't mention it, means they're not paying attention to the headlines that do matter to a lot of americans. >> here is what i would have done if i were in charge of the situation last night. you had a priest martyred on altar like thomas beckett. harris: by a sympathizer to isis. not random act. >> this is long tradition, long historic tradition of priests being martyred exactly on the spot. harris: right. >> i think somebody acknowledging that would have been helpful. harris: call the people in your party to let them know. >> calling people in my party. let's do it, right now. sandra: what do you mean, you people? >> me people. if i were in charge, this whole parking situation would be a lot better. much better commute to the arena.

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sandra: more "outnumbered" in just a moment. first to jon scott with what is coming up in the second hour of "happening now." hey, jon. >> hey, sandra. donald trump stealing spotlight today holding a no-holds-barred news conference for most of the last hour. among other news nuggets, suggestion that russia should hack hillary clinton's emails or release them if they have them already. more on this developing story next hour. also, more analysis of bill clinton's big speech. he is getting mixed reviews today, but day two of the convention does seem to mostly silenced the bernie or bust folks. we'll get into that. also disturbing comments from fbi director james comey this morning. he says we are facing a terrorist diaspora with ones in germany and france likely to increase.

general jack keane is here on that. all ahead. on "happening now." sandra. sandra: thanks, jon. ♪ harris: here in philly at the dnc last night some mothers of blacks who were victims of gun violence in general or police-involved shootings took to the stage describing anguish of losing their loved ones. and as they spoke, "black lives matter" chanted, erupted from the crowd. among the women, the mom of trayvon martin killed by a neighborhood watch man in florida in 12. among others the mother of eric garner and michael brown both killed by police officers. yet their appearance was not without controversy. philadelphia's police union blasted the decision not also to feature families of fallen police officers. now former new york mayor rudy giuliani says many officers say they believe it is part after deeper issue. here he is. >> they believe that president obama and the democratic

administration, hillary clinton, is antipolice. and i think they have given every indication that they are. harris: all right, much love to our producers and writers but that section actually to me, as i was saying it left out the acquittal part, particularly in the trayvon martin case. we want to talk about that. absence, we didn't know they would change leading up to the event last night, if they would add a loved one of a fallen police officer but it didn't happen. >> no. that would be violating the catechism which state has the government is racist, that it is much more perillous to be a black man because the government is against you. i'm really upset people abuse their power. people in power tend to abuse it. president obama abused. some police officers abuse it. i find it upsetting. we should you will be upsetting about it. the truth is, if you're a young black man, this is not the major risk is not from cops. factually true. justice department collects

statistics every year. inconvenient for them to admit it trying to use racial demagoguery to mobilize voters. that is what it is. sandra: tonight invite family members about fallen police officers leading up to this, we kept hearing from the philadelphia police union they were outraged by this why didn't they at least make it look like it wasn't just an oversight or conscious decision and change the lineup, julie? >> i think it was missed opportunity. i think if we're talking about unity and bringing both sides of this equation together it would have been nice to have those mothers up on stage if they were agreeable, along with widows of slain police officers, either together or back-to-back. that is how you unite people. that is how you say there are tragedies on both sides of this equation. i think it's a missed opportunity for them not to have done that. harris: kennedy, one way they could have done it, i would imagine they would have looking ad remarks by these mothers, i can't imagine their speeches went unvetted, one of them actually acknowledge the fact i lost a child.

i know that the loved ones of police officers in this country who have fallen, dallas, baton rouge, you know their loved ones died. i grief with them. would have been one thing to say. i suppose if you couldn't actually invite one of them? >> yeah. no, gross abstraction, it does miss the point we have to figure out how to have some sort of constructive dialogue more so than eric holder's justice department and guidelines they had for law enforcement. where do we go from here? where do we go from here? what is the democratic party going to do, what is their solution a pandering political play? it is very, very important right now we have the conversation and i have to say, you know, dealing with law enforcement in two cities right now i don't live in they have been pretty amazing. i think cops are changed. harris: cleveland was amazing. >> actually dallas, the dallas police department had instituted a lot of its own changes. they have been very constructive with the community. unfortunately the tragedy that

happened there when their officers were assassinated of the. harris: chief brown down in dallas said he has job openings for young black men and men of color. change the narrative from the inside out. he said his.is not ringing off the hook. that is really a shame. missed opportunity, also, perhaps, tucker by president clinton. i don't know he would want to bring up his record on crime and legislation with regard to that, considering his wife seems to running opposite of it. >> they're suddenly embarrassed of it. the truth is bill clinton ran in 1992 successfully, he ran on two issues, jobs and crime. both mattered to middle class. harris: sounds like donald trump. >> running on gender bathrooms and global warming. they are elite issues only rich people care about. let's be honest. sandra: not having families of fallen officers at least one or. harris: a mention. sandra: a mention, feeds into the narrative you heard from mayor giuliani, saying obama and clinton are anti-police. that doesn't help.

>> mayor giuliani on this issue is a little unhinged i think. as we discussed earlier would have been helpful to have that present. would have been a good symbol to send in terms of unity for the party. harris: more "outnumbered" in just a moment. we'll be right back. stay close.

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>> we're going to south dakota, oregon, washington and michigan and then we're going to washington, d.c., to take back the white house! yeah! sandra: i love that. that was the scream heard round the world in 2:00, creditedded with sinking howard dean's presidential campaign. last night former party chair had fun wit. went retro. >> this race will be won on the ground. and it is going to be won in colorado, and in iowa, and in north carolina, and michigan, and florida, and pennsylvania, and then we're going to white house! [cheering] harris: i love it. kennedy: at least he is having unfun with it right. harris: here is what julie said. watching last night, does he not know that the microphone, and then i realized the joke was on rest of us. >> i was there for the first scream. on side of the stage when he

said that in '04 i didn't even know he was screaming. everyone was screaming. i'm not stem think being tick to dean except he got shafted. >> ended his campaign. >> people forget he lost iowa when everybody expected him to win. that was nervous breakdown was about, sorry, governor. that he was never really going to win and kerry unexpectedly came in to win iowa. harris: i have to come clean. i'm getting tweets and social media postings with headsets on with the nfl blowers. >> that you sound like him. harris: i sound a little howard dean like. i'm been dialing it back. i sympathize with him. i realized -- sandra: talking to my dad about it. kennedy: he was shoutings over the crowd. give the guy a break. harris: shouting over the ac. >> no crazier than anything else he ever said put it in context. sandra: thank you, tucker carlson for doing the show today! thank you for being here. more on "outnumbered overtime." stay here.

on the web and join us on facebook and "outnumbered overtime." and, we're going to be back, right, for the fnc hangout at 4:00. join us for the digital hangout and we'll be there on all the fox news apps. "happening now" starts now. now. donald trump tries to sock all of the oxygen in the wells fargo center where the democrats are. the republican nominee answered questions and now taking to twitter to answer all of his critics. we are are covering all of the news happening now. >> it is eye night of history in philadelphia. hillary clinton becomes the first woman nominated for president by a major