of americans getting their first real look at tim kaine for the first time. we'll hear whether he goes on the attack or tries to build the case for hillary clinton. and tune in tomorrow night for a final night of "the kelly file" live from the dnc. chelsea and hillary clinton take to the stage. first, bret is here. stand by. we are just minutes away from the two biggest speeches of the night. the nominee for vice president, senator tim kaine, and closing the night, the 44th president of the united states. almost 12 years to the day from the 2004 convention speech where most of america first met barack obama. good evening, everyone, i'm bret baier. here you are. still here. >> magic of television. hi, everybody, i'm still megyn kelly, and we are live here at the wells fargo arena in philadelphia for night three. tres, of the democratic national convention. president obama expected to make

the case tonight that hillary clinton is the best choice to take over as commander in chief, contrasting with donald trump who he calls impulsive and ill informed. >> we just heard a fiery speech from vice president joe biden last hour. now we'll hear from the man who wants to take over that job. we have fox team coverage tonight, martha and bill down on the floor. let's start with bill. >> good evening, i talked to donna brazile a short time ago, she stepped in on monday when debbie wasserman schultz exited the position. president obama will tell his relationship with hillary clinton, the hillary that he knows. also spoke with anita dunn, communications director to the white house back in 2009, she told me he is focused on a singular mission now as president, and that is getting hillary clinton elected. we know he will barnstorm the country come september, especially in october, and, bret, you can make a case that campaign begins in minutes.

back to you. >> all right, bill, thank you. >> i want to bring in our panel quickly. your thoughts on this? >> i think it's interesting the extent barack obama devotes remarks to trying to bowles ter her in the eyes of the public which seems not to trust her and have other problems with her. i'm interested, i want to see this. >> chris, we're hearing he's worked on the speech for a while and after watching the first lady's speech, the president stayed up to 3:30 working on his speech. might be competition there. >> biden said the best speech has been given by michelle obama. obama has to thread the needle. on the one hand he has to say things are good, which is why you need a third democratic term. on the other hand he can't have rosy colored glasses about it because that would indicate they are out of touch. he's got a delicate job to do tonight, my guess is he'll handle it well. >> how do you see the difference

what tim kaine is going to do and what president obama is going to do? >> president obama is a hero to the crowd, megyn, and right now with his approval ratings plus 50%, he's a terrific surrogate for whoever, whoever the democratic nominee might be, but specifically for his secretary of state, who's come under criticism for not being a good secretary of state. so in defending his own legacy and saying you need a third term, he will point, i think, to hillary clinton as the evidence of his success. >> let's check in quickly with mark down on the convention floor. mark? >> i can tell you the floor was absolutely electric when joe biden was up there tonight. he got the entire crowd chanting when he said donald trump does not have a clue about what makes america great, he doesn't have a clue about anything. people chanting "not a clue." you wonder what moments we'll look back at at this convention as pivotal, and it reminds me in many ways of the bill clinton

moment at the barack obama re-election convention when he stood up and rallied the people in favor of president obama. if, indeed, hillary clinton wins this election, it may be a moment we look back to when joe biden got up and said basically donald trump tells the middle class you're fired. he said how can we accept that? he said it's a bunch of me larky. interesting when they talk about the off color language donald trump loses, but joe biden set this room on fire and my guess is it played extremely well at home, as well, bret. >> thank you. >> ma larky, euphemism for something? a bunch of bull, bologna. >> that's good. let's listen in as senator tim kaine, the vice presidential nominee, comes on to the stage. former governor of virginia, former head of the democratic national committee. big speech tonight.

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hello, philadelphia! hello, democratic family! i want to start off by thanking my beautiful wife ann and my three wonderful children, nat, woody, and anella. they are sitting right up there. you know, my son nat deployed with his marine battalion just two days ago. he deployed overseas to protect and defend the very nato allies that donald trump says he now wants to abandon. sempur fi, nat, sempur fi. my parents and inlaws are here,

nieces and nephews, and hundreds of friends from virginia and beyond. i love seeing you front and center. including my friend of 37 years, senior senator mark warner, my great governor terry mcauliffe, and my great friend and congressman bobby scott. we love you all. today, today, for my wife ann and every strong woman in this country, for nat, woody, and anella and every young person starting out in life to make their own dreams real, for every man and woman serving our country in the military, at home or abroad, for every working

family working hard to get ahead and stay ahead, for my parents and in-laws and every senior citizen who hopes for a dignified retirement with health care and research to end diseases like alzheimer's. for every american who wants our country to be a beloved community, where people aren't demeaned because of who they are, but rather respected for their contributions to this nation, and -- and for all of us who know that the brightest future for our country is the one that we build together and for my friend hillary clinton, i humbly accept my party's nomination to be vice president of the united states. thank you.

can i be honest with you about something? can i be honest with you about something? i never expected to be here. but let me tell you how it happened. i was born in minnesota and grew up in kansas city. my folks weren't much into politics. my dad ran a union ironworking shop in the stockyard. and my mom was his best

salesman. my two brothers and i pitched in to work during summers and weekends, and, you know, that's how small family businesses do it. my parents, al and cathy, here tonight and going strong, they taught me about hard work and about kindness and most especially about faith. i went to a jesuit boys hhool, . wow, that's a big line for the jesuits. we had a motto in my school, "men for others," and it was there that my faith became something vital. my north star for orienting my life, and when i left high school, i knew that i wanted to battle for social justice. like so many of you, like so many of you. that's why i took a year off from law school to volunteer

with jesuit missionaries in honduras. i taught kids how to be welders and carpenters. [ speaking spanish ] faith, family, and work. faith, family, and work. [ speaking spanish ] and let me tell you what really struck me there. i got a firsthand look at a different system, a dictatorship, a dictatorship, where a few people at the top had all the power, and everybody else got left out. now that convinced me that we've

got to advance opportunity for everybody, no matter where you come from, how much money you have, what you look like, how you worship, or who you love. back in 1970 in virginia, a republican governor named lynnwood holton believed exactly the same thing. he integrated virginia's public schools so that black and white kids could finally learn together, and then the family enrolled their own kids, including his daughter ann, in those integrated inner city schools. many years later, ann went off to college and she brought those lessons from that pivotal time with her, and then one day in a study group, she met this goofy guy who had been off teaching kids in honduras.

well, anne and i have now been married almost 32 years, and i am the luckiest husband in the world. you know, let me tell you something, anne's parents, lynn and jake, are here today, 90-plus and going strong. 90-plus and going strong. lynnwood holton, he's still a republican, but he's voting for an awful lot of democrats these days. an awful lot of democrats. and here's why. he's voting for democrats because any party that would nominate donald trump for president has moved too far away from his party of lincoln. and i tell you, if any of you are looking for that party of

lincoln, we've got a home for you right here in the democratic party! lynnwood's example helped inspire me as a civil rights lawyer. over 17 years i took on banks, landlords, real estate firms, local government, anybody who treated anybody unfairly. i had a six-year case against an insurance company that was discriminating against minority neighborhoods all across the united states in issuing home owners insurance. folks, democratic friends, these are the battles that i have fought my entire life. and that's the story. and that's the story of how i decided to run for office. my city of richmond was divided

and discouraged in the early 1990s. we had an epidemic of gun violence that was overwhelming our low income neighborhoods. people were pointing fingers and casting blame instead of finding answers, and i couldn't stand it. so i ran for city council, and i won that first race more than 20 years ago by a landslide margin of 94 votes. and i've said ever since, if i'm good at anything in politics, it's because i started at the local level, listening to people, learning about their lives, and trying to get results. i see a mayor here who knows what i'm talking about. later i became mayor of richmond, lieutenant governor, and then the 70th governor of virginia.

now, i was a hard times governor. i had to steer my state through the deepest recession since the 1930s, but, hey, tough times don't last and tough people do. can i tell you that virginians are tough people? we are tough people. and we're smart, too. we achieve national recognition for our work, best managed state, best state for business, best state for a child to be raised, low unemployment, high median income. we shed tears along the way. we shed tears, especially together in the days after that horrible mass shooting at virginia tech that killed 32 people from beautiful 19-year-old students, to 70-plus-year-old holocaust survivors, and we shed tears and

held each other up, but afterwards we rolled up our sleeves and fixed the loophole in the background record check system so we could make our commonwealth safer, and we've got to do that in the nation. we invested in our people, expanding pre-k and higher ed, because we all know in this room education is the key to all we want to be. all we want to be. and now i have the honor of representing my commonwealth in the u.s. senate. i work on the armed services and foreign relations committees to keep us safe at home and strong in the world. i work on the budget committee with our great democratic leader of that committee, a spectacular senator, who used to be a mayor of vermont, bernie sanders.

and -- and -- everybody, we all should feel the bern, and we all should not want to get burned by the other guy. on that budget committee under bernie's leadership, we fight for investments in education, health care, research, transportation, and i also serve on the aging committee to make sure that seniors like my folks have a secure retirement and don't get targeted by ripoff artists who will scam them out of their savings or overcharge them for prescription drugs.

can i tell you a funny thing about the senate? can i tell you a funny thing about the senate? that sounds like a yes. i spend a lot -- i spend a lot of time with republican senators who once they have made sure that nobody is listening, will tell you how fantastic a senator that hillary clinton was. now look, this journey that i've told you about has convinced me -- has convinced me over and over again that god has created in our country a beautiful and rich tapestry, an incredible cultural diversity that succeeds, when we embrace

everybody in love and battle back against the forces, the dark forces, of division. we're all neighbors, and we must love our neighbors as ourselves. now, hillary clinton and i -- [ speaking spanish ] -- and we share this basic belief. it's simple, do all the good you can and serve one another. pretty simple. pretty simple. that's what i'm about. that's what you're about. that's what bernie sanders is about. that's what joe and jill biden are about. that's what barack and michelle obama are about, and that's what hillary clinton is about.

now -- now -- [ speaking spanish ] yes, we can. yes, we can. yes, we can. last week, last week in cleveland, we heard a lot about trust. so let's talk about trust. let's talk about trust. i want to tell you why i trust hillary clinton.

first, she's consistent. she has battled to put kids and families first since she was a teenager. in good times and bad. in victory and defeat. in and out of office, through hell or high water, fighting for underprivileged kids, working with the children's defense fund, fighting to get health insurance for 8 million low income children when she was first lady. fighting for the well being of women and children around the world. hey, can i offer you a little tip? when you want to know something about the character of somebody in public life, look to see if they have a passion that began long before they were in office. andhat they have consistently held it throughout their career.

do they have a passion? did it start before they were in office? have they held on to it consistently? folks, hillary has a passion for kids and families. donald trump has a passion, too. it's himself! and with hillary it's not just words, it's accomplishments. she delivers. as senator after 9/11, i got my new yorkers right here and my virginians right here, she battled. she battled congressional republicans to care for the first responders who went into the towers, who went into the pentagon and saved the victims of those terrorist attacks. as secretary of state, she implemented tough sanctions against iran to pave the way for a diplomatic breakthrough to

curtail a nuclear weapons program. and she wasn't afraid, she wasn't afraid, she wasn't afraid to stand up against thugs and dictators and as a key part of the obama national security team, they decided to go to the ends of the earth to wipe out osama bin laden. hey, do you all remember karla, the little girl that we heard from on monday night? who was worried that her parents would be deported? karla said she trusts hillary to keep them together. and do you remember the mothers of the movement last night?

they said they trust hillary to keep other mother's sons and daughters safe. and on a personal level, as she's serving our nation abroad, i trust hillary clinton with our son's life. now, you know who i don't trust? i wonder. donald trump. donald trump. trump is a guy who promises a lot, but you might have noticed he's got a way of saying the same two words every time he makes his biggest, hugest promises. believe me.

it's going to be great. believe me. we're going to build a wall and make mexico pay for it. believe me. we're going to destroy isis so fast. believe me. there's nothing suspicious in my tax returns. believe me. by the way, does anybody in this massive auditorium believe that donald trump's been paying his fair share of taxes? does anybody here believe that trump ought to release his tax returns just like every other presidential candidate in modern history?

of course he should. hey, donald, what are you hiding? and yet -- and yet donald still says, believe me. believe me. believe me? believe me? i mean, here's the thing, most people when they run for president, they don't just say believe me. they respect you enough to tell you how they will get things done. i mean, that's what most people who run for president do. in fact, you can go on hillaryclinton.com right now and find out exactly how she'll make the biggest investment in new jobs in a generation. how she'll defend and build on wall street reform. how she'll reform our immigration system to create a path to citizenship. how she'll make it possible to

graduate from college debt free. you can see how she'll protect roe v. wade, guarantee equal pay for women, and make paid family leave a reality. all it takes is one click. all it takes is one click, and we can see how she'll do it, how she'll pay for it, and how we'll benefit by it. not donald trump. not donald trump. he never tells you how he's going to do any of the things he says he'll do. he just says believe me. so, so here's the question. here's the question. do you really believe him? donald trump's whole career says you better not. small contractors, companies just like my dad's believed him.

believed him when he said he'd pay to build a casino in atlantic city. they did the work, hung the dry wall, poured the concrete, but a year after opening, trump filed for bankruptcy. he walked away with millions and they got pennies on the dollar. some of them went out of businesses, all because they believed donald trump. retirees and families in florida, they believed donald trump when he said he'd build them some condos, thousands of them. they paid their deposits, but the condos, they were never built. he just pocketed their money and walked away. they lost tens of thousands of dollars all because they believed donald trump. charity after charity, charity after charity believed donald

trump when he said he would contribute to them, and thousands of trump university students believed donald trump when he said he would help them succeed. they got stiffed. he says believe me. well, his creditors, his contractors, his laid off employees, and his ripped off students did just that, and they all got hurt. folks, you cannot believe one word that comes out of donald trump's mouth. not one word. not one word. not one word.

and i'll tell you, and i'll tell you, to me, to me, it just seems like our nation, it is just too great to put it in the hands of a slick talking, empty promising, self promoting one-man wrecking crew. but don't take it from me. don't take it from me. take it from former first lady barbara bush. barbara bush said she doesn't know how any woman could vote for him after his offensive comments about women. any woman. any woman. or john mccain's chief economic adviser during the '08 race, who estimates that trump's promises would cause america to lose $3.5

million jobs. or the independent analyst who found that trump's tax plan given to the wealthy and the biggest corporations would rack up $30 trillion in debt. or how about this, how about this, john kasich, the republican governor who had the honor of hosting the republican convention in cleveland, but he wouldn't even attend it because he thinks donald trump is such a moral disaster. or take it from the guy -- take it from the guy who co-wrote donald trump's autobiography. here's what he said about trump, "lying is second nature to him." so do you believe him?

i don't know, how about on this side, do you guys believe him? i mean, do you guys believe him? is there anyone in this building who believes him? the next president, the next president will face many challenges. we better elect the candidate who's proven she can be trusted with the job. the candidate who's proven that she is ready for the job. and when i say ready, i use ready for a very specific reason. when i lived in honduras, i learned something. the best compliment that you could pay to somebody was to say that they were ready, not smart, not friendly, not rich, but --

[ speaking spanish ] what it means in spanish is this, it means prepared, it means battle tested, it means rock solid. up for anything. never backing down and, friends, hillary clinton, she's lista. hillary clinton is lista. she is -- she is ready. she is ready. she's ready because of her faith. she's ready because of her heart. she's ready because of her experience, and she's ready because she knows that in america we are stronger when we are together. my fellow democrats, this week we start the next chapter in our great and proud story. thomas declared all men were equal and abigail remembered the

women. woodrow ordered the peace and eleanor broke down the barriers. jack told us what to ask, and lyndon answered the call. martin had a dream, and -- [ speaking spanish ] -- and harvey gave his life. bill built a bridge into the 21st century, and barack gave us hope, and now hillary is ready. she's ready to fight. she's ready to win. and she is ready to lead. god bless all of you. on to victory, and thank you, philadelphia! >> senator tim kaine, senator from virginia, former governor of the commonwealth, formally accepting his party's nomination for vice president, breaking into spanish several times, the fluid spanish speaker led the crowd in "yes, we can,"

reminiscent of the 2008 barack obama campaign. the trump/pence campaign out with they call kaine the utility player of the d.c. establishment. he did go into a sustained attack on donald trump, and with his folksy delivery and style, perhaps not the most natural attack dog, but had his own donald trump impression, and believe me, many times, calling for tax returns to be released and the crowd seemed to be pretty into it on social media, megyn, they say he feels like the dad down the street who was driving the wagoneer. >> the clear theme of his speech was donald trump is a liar. that was what he was trying to convince everybody of. that's what donald trump is sort of a verbal habit of donald trump's to say believe me, that i can tell you, so he's trying to trip him up on that, saying you can't, and going through the list, as he put it, creditors, contractors, employees, students, all of whom believed him and all of whom got hurt.

you can't believe one word that comes out of his mouth. let's bring in our panel. brit, what did you think? >> kind of a utilitarian speech. he's not a great orator, he did the best he could. i like tim kaine, he's my senator, in fact, i live in virginia, but this is not his strength. he might have sowed further doubts about donald trump among people who already harbor them, but, you know, after joe biden, classic old fashioned 1940s, 1950s stem winder, this was a little pale by comparison, but he did the best he could. >> chris? >> i think he tried to do three things tonight, first of all, introduce himself to 49 other states because most people have no idea who tim kaine was. i think he did that telling his story. second, he wanted to make the case for hillary clinton, i thought he made that most powerfully when he said i would trust hillary clinton with my son's life. his son is a marine who was just deployed to fight nato, and as

brit said, mostly went after donald trump and as you said, megyn, saying he was a liar. what strikes me, most people, this information how he allegedly ripped off contractors and creditors and charities would be absolutely devastating, but kind of seems like it's old information. we've heard it. heard it in the primaries, heard it in the clinton ads, and people, a lot of people, don't seem to care all that much. and seem to have discounted it. i just wonder how effective it really is. >> i think it sort of picks up on what we heard from vice president biden. i see a scene here tonight, which is that hillary clinton has a passion, a passion for families, for kids, i think they are trying to humanize her, come back to what bill clinton did last night and trying to break down what hillary clinton has accomplished in her life and separate that from what bill clinton called the cartoon or caricature that's built up by the republicans. what was entertaining to me about tim kaine, he's not a natural speaker, but he had a

lot of religious references and illusions in there. it was a call to response. do you believe anything, crowd would respond. do you believe donald trump should release his tax return, that's what got a response in this tim kaine speech, so to me what you saw here was the kid who was in the jesuit high school, the kid who said, you know what, it was our motto was "men to serve others," who went to honduras as a missionary, became a local politician, listens, tells his biographical story, then becomes the man who we see tonight, the vice presidential nominee of the democratic party. i think that relates to people, just as we were talking about his dad as an ironworker in kansas city, that makes him more human and relates especially, i would say, to white working class men. the biggest problem for the hillary clinton campaign. >> father of a marine. >> they do need some help in

that department, because they are down some 30-plus points in that category according to the latest polls. let's check back with martha on the convention floor. >> it took a little while for the crowd to sort of warm up to tim kaine, a lot of people in the california section holding signs saying no tpp, but one of the things we've noticed is the argument laid out between these three people, joe biden clearly out there tonight to bring around any sort of blue collar voters w may be leaning towards trump, then we heard from michael bloomberg, another billionaire from new york who also is someone who might be able to persuade people who might lean towards donald trump. he said i'm an independent, but i am voting for hillary clinton. and tim kaine, who was a moderate democrat, talked as you said about his faith, he's catholic, he's not in favor of abortion, although he does believe in upholding the law, so

these three men all represented the kind of voter in the democratic party who might be leaning away from the progressive party that it has become and looking for an alternative in donald trump. these three men laid out the argument for them to stay right here. bret? >> thanks. >> i want to bring in dana standing by, dana, what did you think? >> well, i had a different reaction, i thought the speech was very good, and i think he was un-hillary, the antidote to her, i thought tim kaine was likable, introduced himself well. he's the kind of guy if you're a democrat, you know what, if he's coming to my town, i want to go and see him. i thought he did a good job. >> tucker? >> clearly in the litany of heros on the left he's trying to reassure progressives in the party who worry he's a secret right winger. i was struck by his use of spanish. the hillary people have been touting his fluent si in the

language, one of the reason he was chosen and deep implications for the country. language is the key thing that holds the country together, the one thing everybody has basically always shared in america, so to, in effect, endorse bilingualism, give a speech partly in spanish is symbolically important and something we should pause to think about. >> i want to bring in the panel again here, and everybody can jump into this question, you look at the choice and he's clearly a move towards getting moderate voters, perhaps disaffected republicans, as juan mentioned, the white population in some of the mid western states especially, but you had two people today cause real problems for hillary clinton. one was terry mcauliffe, the current attorney general, who says she will pass tpp even though she says she won't and the other was house leader nancy pelosi who said this to pbs. >> so many times white

noncollege educated white males have voted republican, they voted against their own economic interests because of guns, because of gays, and because of god. the three gs, god being the woman's right to choose. that is softening. some people will never been voting democratic anyway. >> brit, that obviously harkens back to senator barack obama clinging to guns and religion in the 2008 race, where hillary clinton used that against him. >> exactly right. i've said often of nancy pelosi she says the damnedest things and this is an example of that. what a gaffe to say that and to condescend as she seemed so clearly to do to voters who care about the issues that she mentioned. the kind of thing that happens during conventions and you're a party leader, look at something like that, or a campaign manager, look at something like

that, oh, my god, what next? interesting to see how they handle that going forward. >> not to mention, brit, you made clear the three gs you were speaking out of the time were god, golf, and grandchildren. i'm not sure she has the three gs right. >> i think she has a different set. >> something about what nancy pelosi showed me is how some elements of this party are really out of touch with a lot of america. you know, the flyover states, if you will, not on the coast, and there was another moment that can't pass tonight without us talking about it, that was leon panetta, the chairman -- rather the former cia director. he was also -- do we have this? we have a clip. why don't we play it and then i'll make a point. >> donald trump asks our troops to commit war crimes, endorses torture, spurns our allies from europe to asia, suggests that

countries have nuclear weapons, and he praises dictators from saddam hussein to vladimir putin. >> the point i want to make, here's leon panetta, congressman, cia director, secretary of defense, and he goes over a litany of all the things that isis has done, from attacks in this country, attacks in europe, ending with the horrific attack yesterday where they slit the throat of an 85-year-old priest, then he says these murderers must be stopped. and the reaction was utterly tepid. and at the time i thought, you know, if he had called for lgbt rights, he would have gotten a bigger response. well, maybe that's too tough. then he continues on and they basically drown him out shouting "no more war." this is going to be my opinion, i'm going to state it, but i

thought to myself, these people, most of them sanders supporters, they were in the pockets of where sanders supporters are on the floor, if they were to make that no more war statement to members of isis, they'd happily slit their throats and think, guess what, there's a war. >> good point. >> strong words to follow. >> litany like that is hardly in defense of the obama/clinton foreign policy. this is a list of the events that mark the failure of the struggle against isis, so it was striking in that sense, as well. >> one of the things they've been trying to do tonight is make the case for what hillary clinton accomplished while secretary of state. and you heard repeated references now to the iran deal, and i know that a lot of republicans don't like the iran deal and question whether or not it wil united states and israel safe, but here it is the point of accomplishment for hillary clinton, similarly the

killing of osama bin laden. and i note also that the speakers here are constantly referring to republicans. of course, you saw michael bloomberg, former mayor of new york, once a republican, come forward and say he is an independent, feels that there's a threat to the country in the form of donald trump, but tonight we heard tim kaine, vice presidential nominee, fight barbara bush in terms of the trump attacks or insults to women, and we also heard him say john kasich, the governor of a key swing state, ohio, thought that trump was such a moral disaster, i think is the quote, that he wouldn't even attend the republican convention. >> right, which is why i brought up the nancy pelosi thing, the three gs is not going to sell with disaffected republicans. >> no. >> her mention of that. let's bring back in dana and tucker carlson. these, dana, we heard numerous times today up on this stage about one particular thing said today. not by anybody here, but by

donald trump. listen to donald trump in his press conference today talking about russia. >> would be interesting to see, i will tell you this, russia, if you're listening, i hope you're able to find the 30,000 e-mails that are missing. i think you will probably be rewarded mightily by our press. >> he later said in an interview that airs tomorrow that it was sarcasm and tongue in cheek. your thoughts as democrats really react forcefully to all of it? >> well, democrats tend to overreact, just like sometimes republicans do to things. in some ways i think that happened today. however, donald trump didn't just say it today, he tweeted it a day or so ago, so he knew he was going to get a reaction from it. it's not a reality show when you're going to be -- you want to be the president of the united states and you have several audiences every time you speak. our enemies are listening to us, our allies, the troops, and then

the general public. he has an added responsibility now that maybe this is a bit of a lesson he could learn. i think a lot of people on the republican side could say he's just joking. however, i think we could agree as americans we don't want any foreign government involved. at this point the dnc is blaming russia. we don't have that confirmed from anyone, but what if it were china doing it to the rnc? we should all be equally appalled at the thoughts foreign governments are trying to meddle in our elections. we do that just fine. we don't need to be egging on any sort of bad foreign actors. >> what about it, tucker, should he be joking about something like this, and if it was sarcasm, was it appropriate? >> well, we're, obviously, the moment of real craziness and chaos in american politics and american society and you probably don't want to add to that on principle. i do think, however, the real thing here is one of muddiness, lack of clarity.

again, it is on all candidates to explain what you mean. there is no reason to be misinterpreted. >> thank you. we're in the middle of a lengthy video, introduction to president obama. he will speak, we're told for the rest of the time here, about a half hour. >> but what a moment for him. the 2004 speech at the democratic national convention put him on the map and maybe everybody perk up and say "who is that?" now, he'll round back, it's the book end, we're told to the

speech we saw. >> good evening, this program is about 30 minutes behind. you're right about the video. it should be wrapping up any moment now. i want to add the biggest applause is when he talked about donald trump's taxes. these delegates take down donald trump. i've been watching a twitter feed. donald trump has not tweeted about the convention tonight for the last two hours but we'll see how developments go there. 12 years ago, next month, that is when a state senator from illinois emerged from essentially political willderness and he made his entrance and now, 12 years later, he will be back here in moments to make the case for hillary clinton, and we have

seen, will mention donald trump by name 12 times, that is 15 times fewer than elizabeth warren on monday night. we're minutes away on the floor. >> thinking back to that speech, remember that speech he said there is no conservative america. there is no liberal america. there is the united states of america. we're in a tense united states of america. it's at times, violent. we've seen all of the focus on the shootings here, the police activity. plus, activity overseas. so he comes into a time where he's defending not only his administration, but trying to prop up his secretary of state, hillary clinton. >> it's interesting that tim kaine chose to go with yes we can. covering and changing the tone in washington which president obama himself admitted he failed to do.

recirculating that chant that didn't work out the way this man here, president obama, thought it would. >> let's listen to the end of the video and the introduction of the president of the united states, barack obama. >> ladies and gentlemen, please welcome the 44th president of the united states of america, barack obama.

♪ [ music ] ♪ [ music ] >> thank you. thank you. thank you. thank you. thank you so much.

thank you, everybody. thank you. thank you. thank you so much, everybody. thank you. thank you. thank you, everybody. thank you, thank you. thank you so much, everybody. i hoff you ba -- i love you bac. hello, america.

hello, democrats. so, 12 years ago tonight, i addressed this convention for the very first time. you met my two little girls, malia and sasha. now two amazing young women, who just fill me with pride. you fell for my brilliant wife and partner, michelle. who has made me a better father and a better man. who has gone on to inspire our nation as first lady.

and who somehow hasn't aged a day. i know. the same cannot be said for me. my girls remind me all the time. wow, you've changed so much, daddy. and then, they try to clean it up. not bad. just more mature. and it's true. i was so young that first time in boston. and, and, look, i'll admit it. maybe i was a little nervous in addressing such a big crowd. but i was filled with faith. faith in america. the generous, big hearted,

hopeful country that made my story, that made all of our stories possible. a lot's happened over the years. and while this nation has been tested by war, and it's been tested by recession, and all matter of challenge, i stand before you again tonight, after almost two terms as your president, to tell you i am more optimistic about the future of america than ever before. how could i not be? after all that we've achieved together? after the worst recession in 80 years, we fought our way back. we've seen deficits come down,

401(k)s recover, auto industry set new records, unemployment reached eight-year lows and our owe businesses create 15 million new jobs. after a century of trying, we declared that health care in america is not a privilege for a few. it is a right for everybody. after decades of talk we began to wean ourselves off foreign oil. we doubled our production of clean energy. we brought more of our troops home to their families. and we delivered justice to osama bin laden. through diplomacy, we should

down iran's nuclear weapons program. we opened up a new chapter with the people of cuba. brought nearly 200 nations together around a climate agreement that could save this planet for our children. we put policies in place to help students with loans, protect consumers from fraud, cut veterans' homelessness almost in half and through countless acts of courage, america learned love has no limits and marriage equality is now a reality across the land. by so many measures, our country is stronger, and more prosperous than it was when we started. and through every