o'reilly. please always remember that the spin stops right here because we are definitely looking out for you. breaking tonight, 16 years ago, hillary clinton walked out of the white house as first lady. tonight she will walk onto the stage at the democratic natnd make history, becoming the first woman from a major political party to formally accept this nomination for president. welcome to "the kelly file." i'm megyn kelly reporting live from philadelphia. we understand mrs. clinton has been working throughout the day to fine tune her speech. we're hearing it will touch on themes of leadership. she is also expected to invoke her book, it takes a village, that calls for building a stronger society. and reports suggest she could bring up the issue of trustworthiness, which has been

a weak spot in her candidacy and one her opponent donald trump, loves to highlight. just prior to her speech, her daughter chel saysea will take the stage and make a little history of her own with the only first daughter with one parent who has been a president and another who is nominated to be president. we have a big show lined up for you tonight. we begin with america's newsroom martha maccallum live on the convention floor. >> hi there, megyn. good evening to you. we are in the virginia delegation. just over my shoulder is terry mcauliffe the governor of virginia who is a long time clinton confidant, an amazing story for the people in the inner circle of the clinton world. the way you just described chelsea clinton, what an extraordinary position she's in as daughter of one president and daughter of a future president and the first woman president as well. this is a moment that so many women are feeling on the floor

of this arena. i spoke to many of them. they talked to me about having spent 30 years wanting this moment working towards women's rights. that obviously was the roots of hillary clinton's political career. she fought for women'srights for equality and for children as well. also just want to point out that it's becoming increasingly more patriotic on the floor over the past several days. what started out as a sort of generic blue stage and was criticized for not having any flags on it is now a sea of red, white, and blue. and everyone just received signs that say "usa." expect them to be chanting. we also just heard from the sheriff in dallas who talked about law enforcement and lives who had been lost in the line of duty and brought up families very much like the mothers of the movement but on the police said. so law enforcement, law and order, all those themes she's trying to co-opt or engage in that donald trump has been successful on so far. they're trying to sort of box him out by taking some of his

themes. we'll see if it works. joining us now, brian fallon. so they're saying the speech will talk about how we are at a moment of reckoning. what does that mean. >>? well we're at a fork in the road as a country. we face a lot of serious challenges. on the economic side we want to build an economy that works for everybody, not just those at the top. we see wages being stagnant for a lot of middle class workers. on the national security side we face the ongoing threat of terrorism. we've seen it in incidents across this country and in europe. so americans are asking a question about what can be done to keep them safe. so on both of these questions, we can take one of two approaches. we can unite as a country, come together recognize that our diversity is what makes us great and that we function great and can achieve great things when we bring everybody together. that is the message hillary clinton is going to put forward tonight. i think that will be a strarkark contrast to donald trump's speech last week. he continued to talk about policies that would divide us banning muslims.

>> he says he was speaking about a world that exists. he says she's going to be speaking about -- and here in philadelphia, they've been speaking about one that does not exist, a utopia that is not realistic. >> i think we absolutely understand the challenges that middle class households are facing. there's no disagreement about the anxiety that exists out there from an economic standpoint and the fear out there with respect to national security. but hillary clinton, i think, is going to appeal to the best of americans tonight and say that we can summon our best angels to con confront these problems if we all unite. when we greeted those challenges with fortitude and a collective will -- >> is it true she's going to address the issue of trustworthiness. she's struggled with this. the latest polls all show her at a 68% of the population believes she is not honest and trustworthy. >> i think all the speakers leading up to tonight have addressed that issue. i think you saw our vice

presidential nominee senator tim kaine speak in very honest and personal terms whose son is a marine in europe who says he trusts hillary clinton with his son's own life. and president obama also gave a stirring testimonial about hillary clinton can be trusted with the decisions in the situations that only a president can make. i think hillary clinton has begun to address those in recent weeks. she talked about politicking and retail politics is not something that comes natural to her. she recognizes that after many years in the public eye, she's been subject to many attacks that in her own words, has contributed to skepticism about her. i think she's going to reassure americans she is the one they can trust to fight for them in the white house. >> she's under pressure right now to have a press conference. she hasn't had one in 237 days since last december of 2015. shooesz she's given interviews to reporters but that's not the same as a press conference where you have to take the heat from

any reporter in the room. it undermines some people's belief in her that she can handle that that she is honest and would answer any tough questions. when is she going to have one of those? >> well megyn, i think that's exactly what the voters expect to answer tough questions and for the president or presidential candidate to go before the press and sit down under that white light and answer questions. that's what we do on a regular basis. we're going to be on fox news -- >> he's great, and he'll do a great job. you know it's not the same. even in an interview with chris wallace, hillary will give him let's say 12 minutes and then it's limited. you don't have a lot of time. you can only choose your top few questions and then you don't have a lot of time for follow-up. it's not as hard as a press conference is. is there a reason she's been avoiding that? >> no. >> and doesn't she owe it to the american people to subject herself to it. >> i think she can handle any question that is thrown at her whether it's an interview or press conference. she continues to take questions on the road. i know that it's not as often as

a lot of our traveling reporters would like but we're going to continue to answer questions from reporters that are traveling, and with a lot of local outlets which are in these battleground states. >> with all due respect to chris wallace, who i love -- >> and megyn kelly. >> when is she going to sit down with megyn kelly of "the kelly file." >> we've had increasing presence on fox news. she just phoned in and did an interview with bill o'reilly after the horrific attacks in nice. she has been interviewed by bret and she's doing chris wallace this weekend. i have to assume that an appearance on "the kelly file" is around the corner. >> i hope you're right. she says she's the champion of women in powerful positions. let her prove it. >> absolutely. >> come on over to "the kelly file." >> i'll go back and make the pitch. joining us now with more brit hume. i mean there's no harm in guilting him while he's sitting right here. >> i notice the booking effort you're making here. >> they pay me a lot of money to do that.

i'm a catholic. i know how to guilt people. what is her challenge tonight, brit? >> well she's so well known, and impressions of her are pretty solid, i think. so she's working with that obviously as a kind of a burden. and there's a little bit of complexity to the task added by the fact that her husband presented her as a change agent, as the change maker, the best he'd ever seen he said in his life. then of course last night the whole obama pitch was continuity all the way. and, you know he made a real strong case rhetorically for her. and then of course at the end of it was the moment i think will last in a lot of people's minds if they were up late enough to see it and they certainly saw the photographs, was that embrace and that moment together. i mean that said continuity. it made her kind of the queen of continuity. so which is it? i'm sure that you know, you can make an argument that she'll be continuing policies in such a way as to change things but i think that's getting a little complex. and i think it poses a problem.

then on top of that she does have the question that everybody has, which has resulted in her deficit on the issue of trust, and she somehow needs to address that. not an easy >> it's hard in a speech to get people past distrust. let me ask you this. she is not known for her, you know ability to fire up a crowd. >> right. >> she does well in one-on-one settings in personal settings they say she does very well. she, i think, would admit that is not her forte, and she follows barack obama and joe biden. >> and her husband. >> and her husband and michelle obama. this has been a week of amazing speeches. >> right. >> so how does that play for her tonight? >> you couldn't very well have her go ahead of them. she has to -- >> you got to feel for her. >> i do. >> i wouldn't want to follow all those folks. >> i think the one thing she does have going for her of course is this is obviously a hugely sympathetic audience so she will have that going for her. they'll all be primed to cheer. so at least in terms of the hall and perhaps in terms of you know lifelong hard core

democrats, she's got them already. the question is the same question every nominated candidate has. how do you build out from the coalition that nominated you? you know she's got some issues doing that. >> she's been working on that at this convention. you tell me. my impression here at the democratic national convention is they have made an effort to reach out to that republican middle, the folks who may not be so fond of donald trump. just now before we got on the air, there was a parade of republican voters saying i'm a lifelong republican. i'm actually a party activist and i'm voting for hillary clinton. >> and i think that you know her best -- you heard me say this before megyn. but each candidate in this particular cycle is the other's best hope. and donald trump is her best home because, i mean he hasn't even got the republican base fully locked up. so there are some voters out there that could be picked off by her. but i -- you know i question you know whether that's going to be -- i mean i think he's at a disadvantage.

there are more democrats in this country than there are republicans, reflected in the rateings for this convention the television ratings. they've been higher despite all the curiosity about donald trump, who is still a relative newcomer as opposed to her. i think she has that advantage, and the fact that trump has been such a target rich environment helps her as well. >> do you think it was a mistake or smart move for trump to cause this controversy about russia and hacking the e-mails in the middle of her week? >> on one level, you could say that anytime everybody is talking about e-mails, it doesn't help her. on the other hand it's not true as trump seems to believe that any kind of publicity is good publicity. it gave them an opening to attack her. on this set last night, debbie dingell basically accused trump of treason. >> and leon panetta down on the stage. >> my sense is this blows over but it did get trump on the air, and the democrats, i'm sure feel that it made them a bigger target. we'll see.

>> great to see you, brit. much more with brit coming up. as we wait to hear hillary clinton's message for america, the democrats are announcing that gun control will be a big push in her presidential campaign. up next we will speak with the dnc committee member about that. plus we will hear from the rape survivor who is lending her voice to a brand-new ad prosecute the nra. she's here to tell us why she did it. then with the fbi director sharing new warnings about islamic state terrorists coming to the united states general john allen joins us on why he thinks mrs. clinton has the best plan for stopping the terrorists. it's extraordinary to have a general speak out like this. he'll do it tonight and then general michael flynn will weigh in with a different take. >> i think the greatest physical threat to americans today is violence directed by inspired by urged by the group that calls itself the islamic state.

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breaking tonight, fbi director james comey delivering a dark assessment of our fight against terror saying a win against isis overseas could cause the terrorists to come west much like we saw in the terror attacks in brussels and paris earlier this year. here's director comey on what he believes is the greatest threat to americans. watch this. >> i think the greatest threat to the physical safety of americans today is violence directed by inspired by urged by the group that calls itself the islamic state. not all of the islamic state's killers are going to die on the battle field. hundreds and hundreds of them when the coalition succeeds and i'm confident it will in crushing the islamic state, through the fingers of that crush are going to come hundreds

of really dangerous people, and they're going to flow out primarily towards western europe. but we might as well be right next door to western europe given the ease with which people can travel. and this is an order of magnitude greater than any die as practice we've seen before. >> earlier i spoke with retired four-star general john allen, who just endorsed hillary clinton as the next commander-in-chief. great to see you. >> great to be with you, megyn. >> thank you for your san fernando. >> thank you. >> so you tell me. did comey nail it there? >> he did. >> the more success we have against isis in the middle east the more likely they are to disperse and come to places that are friendly to the united states or the united states. >> well isis really exists in three forms. it's the core on the ground in syria and iraq. it's the provinces that we have seen in places like libya and the sinai. but there's also a global network. this is the way that isis would like to coordinate the activities that it conducts not just in syria and iraq but elsewhere. and that work rides on the back

of social media and the internet of things and it makes it difficult for us to know where all of these folks are at any given time. so the director is right. >> you were jumping up and down a couple years ago saying we've got to destroy this group and we have to destroy them now. >> right. >> forcefully. you know we're said to have left under president obama's command, perhaps dissatisfied with his approach to how -- to isis. is that true? is that why you left? >> i left for a number of reasons. it was time to get on. i had done a six-month appointment, which was the original effort, and then a second six-month appointment and started the third six-month appointment. it was time to go. >> you were in charge of fighting this group. >> i was in charge of forming the coalition globally helping to administer and implement the strategy and to work with the turks. >> without placing political blame, you know i'm not trying to make this political about president obama, but i am trying to figure out what do you think we ought to be doing right now to defeat this group that we're

not do something. >> we're doing a lot on the ground in iraq and syria, and i think we're seeing a real payoff in that regard. it is shrinking. we're putting it under a lot of pressure. we're going to have to do more, and it's planned to do more to go after the provinces where we will work closely with regional partners libya, for example, and the sinai against boko haram. but then again the network is really the issue. the network binds the provinces with the core. it is the way that isil daesh, conducts global command and control. they move fighters along that network. they move money, and guns. they can inspire and direct attacks. we need to do what we are doing now, but do as much as we possibly can, which is to integrate our intelligence and law enforcement, our security services more broadly and more intimately especially in western europe where there is a tradition of the separation of those. and as daesh, as isil continues now to try to attack us in our

capitals to try to take the war to us now, to take pressure off of them in their heartland, syria and iraq we've got to do more to integrate both the information and intelligence and integrate that with law enforcement because it's a law enforcement dimension. doing that will help us to disrupt the network, hit the key nodes and critical pathways that can bring that network down. we should expect this for some time. the director is absolutely correct. >> i have been looking into your history. you don't make political comments. zero comments about donald trump. you're liked by republicans and democrats alike, respected on both sides of the aisle. so you come out and make an extraordinary move in this election to endorse hillary clinton. why did you feel compelled to do that? >> well first of all, i believe in her. we worked closely when she was the secretary of state. she supported me enormously. she set the conditions diplomatically for many of the things we were able to establish not just? in afghanistan but more

broadly in the region. she really gets the fact that america is the indispensable power but we don't do it alone. we do it through our aliengsliancealliances, and relationships. she wants to strengthen those. she wants to ensure that nato is supported, that america is prominent in nato. nato is one of the most important coalition of nations on the planet today. far even beyond the geographic boundaries of what nato is -- >> donald trump says i'm fine with nato but some of these nations don't pay their fair share. >> we should expect that's going to be difficult for them. they're in difficult financial times. that observation by him is not novel. we've been saying that for a number of years, that our nato partners should strive to stand 2% of gdp and to do so in a way that is coherent to our nateo requirements. they're going to struggle to do that. most of them don't.

that's no reason to leave nato. that's no reason to say when an attack on one of our partners occurs we aren't going to be there for those partners. >> what do you think of donald trump? >> i'd like to not get into -- >> what do you think of his foreign policy? he's got a plan for fighting isis which he won't fully reveal. first he decried middle east entanglemented but then he switched in march and said we need 20,000 to 30,000 ground troops in iraq. he says we need to destroy the oil fields which provide money to isis over there. but beyond that he doesn't say anything. >> well there isn't much substance there. we were all eagerly awaiting for some kind of more definitive statement on how he would be engaged in the middle east and i think more specifically as you propose, he'll deal with the islamic state. we all need to hear that because if he's going to be supported, he needs to be sufficiently clear so that we know where he wants to take the country and where he wants to take the military. >> he's beloved by a lot of military you know rank and

file. >> mm-hmm. that's okay. that's their choice. >> what do you make of it? do you think he's a dangerous commander-in-chief potentially? >> again, i'm not going to get into superlatives in this regard. he has no experience in that regard. and when there are suggestions that the armed forces of the united states of america, which are the finest on the planet despite some of the rhetoric that i've heard come out of the campaign his campaign when there is the implication that the united states military might be used as an instrument of torture, or the u.s. military might be used to systematically murder the families of suspected terrorists or the u.s. military might be used for any number of illegal activities you know we're putting ourselves on the edge of a civil military crisis that we've never seen before in this country. we don't need to go there. the united states military is the finest on the planet. and we're looking for the kinds of employment of that force in support of our alliance system in support of our national objectives in support of our partners and allies around the

world that will continue to promote peace and stability and not make the relationships transactional. we're a transformational power. we should take advantage of that and i believe that's what hillary clinton will bring to the table. >> here's a sexist question for you. do you think that there would be any problem in having a female commander-in-chief? she would be the first one we ever had. >> problem with hom? >> you know some people say will the men follow her? >> of course they would. >> would they listen to a female commander? >> of course they will. i'll say it again.nest military on the planet. we go forward under fire anytime our commander-in-chief orders us to do so and that commander-in-chief we are blind to the origins of that commander-in-chief and we'll salute and move forward and accomplish our mission, and we'll be very happy to do it under her leadership. >> we salute you, general allen, and your service to our nation. thank you for being here. >> great to be with you today. take care. thanks. >> so we taped that a little bit earlier tonight. general john allen is on the stage right now to chants of usa, surrounded by afghanistan

and iraq war veterans. let's just take a look at the scene. >> so we stand before you tonight to endorse hillary clinton for the president of the united states of america. we trust in her judgment. we trust in her judgment. we believe in her vision for a united america. we believe in her vision of an america as a just and strong leader against the forces of hatred, the forces of chaos and darkness. we know that she, as no other, knows how to use all instruments of american power, not just the military to keep us all safe and free!

>> usa, usa. >> my fellow americans, i tell you without hesitation or reservation, that hillary clinton will be exactly, exactly the kind of commander-in-chief america needs. i know this -- i know this because i served with her. i know this as the former special presidential envoy to the global coalition to counter isis. with her as our commander-in-chief america will continue to lead -- >> general john allen in a very unusual move for him, getting political tonight, endorsing hillary clinton over donald trump. joining me now with his thoughts, former cia director general michael flynn. also the author of the field of fight. having listened to general allen right here on the set, general flynn, and down there firing up

this crowd, he's not a political guy. he's not a political guy, but, man, he believes in her. >> yeah. >> your thoughts on his comments. >> well two things. you know number one, on john allen, great, great service to our country as a -- you know in the united states marine corps. i agree with him that we do have the finest military in the world although they are definitely not ready -- as ready as they need to be megyn. i will tell you that i cannot see how john allen can support somebody who perpetually cannot tell the truth and has -- and was actually described by the director of the fbi as not being able to tell the truth. so i honestly don't know how john allen can look at himself in the mirror and say why he supports hillary clinton. on director comey -- >> wait. let me just ask you. he says he's worked with her, so he has personal experience. >> we all have. >> just to get you to respond to what he accused trump of he said -- and i want you to respond to this because he said with him, with the calls

fortureture, we would put us on the edge of a civil military crisis. >> donald trump hasn't said any of that. the civil military crisis is somebody who disclosed an unbelievable amount of -- >> he called for torture. he supports torture. he's very open on that enhanced interrogation techniques and he has called for the murder of the families of loved -- >> general allen, as a retired officer, was in charge of our current strategy for well over a year maybe closer to two years, and during that period of time the rise of radical islamism and isis you know it exponentially grew. and back to your comment about director comey, director comey must have forgotten that we got attacked in orlando. he must have forgotten that we got attacked in san bernardino. i saw his comments today earlier, and i was like stunned that he just talked about, you know if we continue to pressure them there, they're going to come over here. well john allen just said the same thing.

so we're going to keep the strategy that we have so these guys will be pressured to come over here. so there's something wrong with that picture, and frankly i honestly don't know how general allen can look at himself in the mirror and say that he supports an individual who placed our national security at high risk. i mean donald trump has -- he has said a lot of things and i think there's a lot of things that have not been precisely stated megyn. and that's some of the things he just said. so i'm really -- i'm a bit stunned. john allen can support -- as an american he can support whoever he wants, whatever his conscience decides. but i'm telling you he was in charge of the strategy after he came out -- after he came out of uniform, and that strategy failed. >> well, yeah, and then he -- you know he reportedly left because he didn't agree with the commander-in-chief and that was the -- [ overlapping voices ] >> some of the military have

said that trump's pro-posed muslim stand has endangered our troops abroad. as though they stand against foreign muslims coming into the united states endangers them. to that you say what? >> i got an e-mail from a friend who is a very senior person in a muslim country about my book. and he said thank you very much for writing it. i am going to ensure that all the leaders of our country read this book. so that's a plug for my book but it's also a plug for the idea that we actually can beat these guys. i'm telling you the strategy that john allen was in charge of working for the obama administration the last couple of years, it's a failed strategy. it's just not working. listen to what the fbi director just said. i mean and john allen just said we're going to create more problems over here with the strategy that we have over there. that's essentially what both of them just told the american public. >> they're not just going to be gone. they're going to spread out.

they're going to be a scattered people and -- [ overlapping voices ] >> they already have megyn. >> right. i got it. i got to go general. i got it. another thing for us to worry about tonight. senate minority leader harry reid has a reputation for some fierce attacks on republican presidential candidates. tonight we'll show you why some folks are suggesting he really crossed the line with a new low in a hit on donald trump. plus gun control advocates use the convention stage to make laws and the nra immediately hit back in a new ad featuring a woman who survived a vicious sexual assault. she'll join us next with her message about the right to self-defense. don't go away. >> the thought of owning a handgun terrified me until one morning a stranger broke into my apartment and raped me. he had evil in his eyes and i was helpless. my fear of firearms disappeared when i got my second chance at life.

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powerful message from a rape survivor. >> the thought of owning a handgun terrified me until one morning a stranger broke into my apartment and raped me. he had evil in his eyes and i was helpless. my fear of firearms disappeared when i got my second chance at life. >> you're right to own a gun for self-defense is at risk in this election. hillary clinton would take away your rights. >> self-of your rightsdefense of your rights don't let it be taken away. >> the nra political fund is responsible for the content of this advertising. >> in a moment we're going to hear from the young woman you saw in that ad, kimberly carban. furs i'm first i'm joined by super delegate robber zimmerman. >> after this convention we can forgo the title, thank goodness. >> let's talk about this because i get that she wants to you know more background checks and so on. what could she possibly accomplish that barack obama was not able to accomplish? >> first we have -- i just have

to say what kimberly carban went through is the most tragedyic, hor horrific situation anybody could face. i admire the way she's rallied and rebuilt her life. but nothing that president obama and hillary clinton is proposing would stop kimberly carban from getting a handgun. in response to your question -- >> he didn't get it done. how could she get it down? >> this national election has now become a referendum not democrat versus republican but about standing up to the gun lobby, and not for gun control but trying to stop gun violence. you have now 80% of all citizens about 70% of gun owners -- >> but it's been that way. robert this is what people believe. if nothing could be done after newtown, 20 dead kindergartners what makes anybody think you can touch the gun laws in this country? >> you know i recognize what you're saying and i feel that

frustration as a strong advocate of anti-gun violence legislation. but that's not the reason not to try. i mean it took tragically too long to move civil rights legislation through, but it finally went through. i think the difference is we've had so many newtowns so many virginia techs, and we're seeing a response from the public. for example, in virginia the next vice president of the united states tim kaine, is a governor and a senator with an f rating from the nra, and he was elected in the home state of the nra, virginia. >> let me ask you this because the gun rights a okay great. but the vast majority of the guns used in these crimes are illegal guns. so none of these laws that are passed to try to tighten the gun controls would have prevented most of these things. criminals get their hands on illegal guns. >> the point is let's not make it easier for them to evade background checks. let's not make it for example, easier for people who are domestic abusers. that's the point here. why should anyone a private citizen, have to own an assault weapon?

how many more deaths do we have to endure till we finally rally the congress? the country, though is there, and hopefully this election will show it. >> great to see you. >> great to be with you. joining me now, a second amendment advocate who is featured in that nra new ad kimberly carban. thank you so much for being here. i echo robert in extending my heartfelt condolences for what you went through. just walk us through it because you say you were afraid of guns and you see it very differently now. >> i do. i was actually a sophomore in college in 2006 at the university of northern colorado. i grew in greeley, and on the early morning hours of may 12th a stranger broke into my college area apartment, held me there in my room for two hours, and sexually assaulted me and i had to lay there at 20 years old thinking this is how i'm going to die. i never thought that self-defense was something -- i

mean really i had no idea what the second amendment was. i really didn't understand what was included in the constitution. those aren't the things that were taught to me in school and it wasn't until i was laying there that i realized there was no way that i could fight back. i had to gather as much information as i could and hope and pray that the justice system worked. luckily for me and my case it did, and i was very fortunate to be able to testify at my rapist's hearing, and he was put away for 24 years to life and he is currently serving that in the department of corrections. >> politically, though you've been a democrat. you voted democrat. you voted for barack obama and thought that your second amendment rights would be upheld. then did you find differently, or what happened? >> well in 2008, i hear hope and change and i hear all of these really really scary commercials coming on that are directly impacting me as somebody who was never politically affiliated before hand. i'm hearing this very strong messaging that you're a victim

of violent crime this is the person that's going to provide the most protection for you. and i didn't realize that the protection i needed most was coming from myself. i need my right to defend myself. i need myself to defend my two little kiddos that are 1 and 3 now. >> what specific little are you worried they're going to take away? which piece of your gun rights? >> i guess what i've watched happen over the last few years is that we're told we're not going to take away your guns but we're going to limit where you can take this. the reason that i got involved in this at all was because i was a grad school student at unc on carrying concealed. that was my own business. i never thought much else about it. that's what i wanted to do. and then suddenly my legislature is saying well you can't carry on your campus anymore. so then it's getting extended to well, you can't carry this specific type of gun anymore. and it's these incremental, small, chipping away of our rights that is getting down to the heart of the issue. now we're being told trust hillary. she is going to make sure that

you are kept safe and if there's anything i've learned in the last ten years, it's that no one is going to be as responsible for my personal safety as myself. >> kimberly thank you for sharing your story. >> thank you very much for having me. >> lots of luck to you. so how does hillary clinton tonight top some of the speeches this week from her husband, from michelle obama, from president obama, from joe biden? mark thiessen and mo elleithee ahead on that. plus harry reid is under fire for this. >> giving fake briefings. pretend your briefing. don't tell them anything you don't want to get out. that's how i feel about it.

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breaking tonight, with classified intelligence briefings for presidential candidates set to start in just

days senate minority leader harry reid is causing controversy with his latest attack on the republican candidate for president. senator reid responding to donald trump appearing to ask russia to find hillary clinton's deleted e-mails, a request that mr. trump now says was sarcastic. and this is how senator reid replied to all of that suggesting those classified intelligence briefings that trump's about to get, well they should be fake for him. >> it's obvious he can't control his mind or his tongue. and what i've suggested is now because he's been not only for the party and he gets -- he's entitled to briefings from the cia, for example, i said publicly give him fake briefings. pretend you're briefing hipm. i think the man is a loose cannon. >> what does that mean? >> it means he won't know the difference. >> you're basically telling the intelligence community to lie to him? >> no i'm not going to lie to you.

that's why i tell you everything. >> monica crowley is a fox news contributor. bill burton is a former white house deputy press secretary under president obama, and tezlyn figaro is the former bernie sanders staffer. great to see you all. >> hi. >> what do you make of harry reid? >> i think this is the fact the democrats bang like a drum. harry reid is focused on the wrong thing, especially by suggesting to give false information, i think, is irresponsible. democrats tend to say that they take the high road and i think he's kind of playing the game of the sarcasm and the joking about -- >> you tell me. was that joking? i couldn't tell. it wasn't a laugh riot. >> i don't know that he was joking. you know what? if donald trump already knows more than the generals i don't know why he needs the tension briefings anyway? >> now that's joking. you tell me. you're a democrat. >> true. >> it sounds like a bit of a jerk. >> i wouldn't go that far.

>> that's sort of a jerkish comment. you're going to give fake intel briefings to the man who might be president. >> donald trump does have impulse problems. he can't really control what comes out of his mouth. >> nonetheless, if he becomes the president, he needs to have these intel briefings before he does. >> i think that the integrity of the process will hold up regardless of what harry reid says. he'll get the briefings and frankly maybe once he sees the briefings, he'll stop saying such stupid things about isis and putin because he'll see that isis is in retreat and actually putin is a major problem for the united states of america, and he shouldn't be inviting him into espionage. >> harry reid is the only one, monday karks who is proposed a fake briefing but the republicans also proposed to deprive hillary clinton of her tension briefings. paul ryan said that to me on our show after her e-mail scandal. >> democrats are masters of projection of accusing their opponents of what they themselves are guilty of. mrs. clinton jeopardized our

most sensitive security secrets. but harry reid is suggesting the republican nominee for president should be denied classified briefings? it is so absurd. there is always a method to their madness. what i think harry reid was doing is setting the framework tonight for mrs. clinton because what she's going to do on that stage later is present herself as the reasonable alternative to donald trump. so basically harry reid in this absurd way was trying to set the stage for that argument. >> they're definitely trying to paint donald trump as unstable unreliable untrustworthy, you know trigger finger crazy man who shouldn't be give the nuclear codes. so far have they done it tezlyn? >> not to me. it's the same thing the democrats have done. i've seen this same movie before. it's called the wizard of oz. it's having a smoke screen and a nice fun time but really not getting into the strategy. there's been a lot of conversation about being scared

but haven't talked about the strategy on how to help democrats win. to love over 900 seats since this administration has been in place, the delegates are doing fine but the communities they represent back home are not. and that's what's really missing in the convention. >> what do you make of it bill because you've been in a white house. these security briefings, basically the intel community came out today, some folks, and said there's some alarmism. mike morrell who led the ci, a-- >> i actually think monica gives us too much credit on the democratic side. things that might seem strategic are senator reid speaking his mind. but these briefings are -- they are classified for a reason but the information is not the same thing that the president of the united states gets once he walks into the oval office and, you know really gets the full breadth of what's going on in the world. >> yeah, and somebody is going to need them because one of these two people is going to become the commander-in-chief unless something remarkable happens and tezlyn gets her way

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and from president obama last night. mark thiessen is a former chief speechwriter for george w. bush and mow elleithee. what do you think she needs to do tonight? >> i think she needs to do two things. one, make a clear contrast. we've heard this theme throughout the course of the week that hillary clinton will be a champion for you. she always has been always will be and that donald trump is only in it for himself. that needs to pop tonight. the second half of that statement is not a heavy lift for most americans. they're willing to buy that that donald trump's only in it for himself. the first part has been her challenge, though. so she needs to tonight find a way to connect with people on a personal level to get them to start to believe that she has been and always will be a champion. you've heard the speakers all week make that case. tonight, it's her turn. >> mark what do you think? >> yeah, well, the problem for hillary clinton is that 54% of

the american people think she's in it for personal gain. this is the problem she faces. you've pointed out she's following barack obama and bill clinton, two of the great presidential orators in modern times. and the reason why people like bill clinton is because he empathized with people. people actually felt he felt their pain. nobody believes that hillary clinton feels their pain. second of all, i think mo's wrong. there's not a clear message coming out of this convention. you had -- it's not clear whether she's the change maker that bill clinton pandered her as on tuesday night or the agent of continuity that barack obama tried to paint her as. you can't be both at the same time. she wants to be an agent of change because 70% of the country thinks that the country is going in the wrong direction. but if she wants to be an agent of change she has to stand there tonight and say what policies is she going to change. what obama policies is she going to change.

how is she going to be different from barack obama? i don't think she's ready to do that. >> isn't the message is she's going to continue his change? >> i think that's it. over the past eight years, the united states has been begun to change. the american people eight years ago said we needed a new direction. 54% -- over 50% of the american people believe that barack obama is doing a good job. his approval numbers are high. >> does that work when you have two-thirds of the american public that believes this country is going in the wrong direction? >> here's what it really is because we can parse approval ratings versus favorable ratings versus right track versus wrong track. most people feel that they're not standing on a level playing field. that's what they're looking for, someone that can unrig the system. it's no accident that when donald trump can be consistent in his message, that's what he's trying to say. >> right. >> that's what hillary clinton is trying to say. they're both trying to make the argument that they are the one who is going to best level the playing field for the american people. he's having a harder time than even she is right now because

his approval numbers, his favorable numbers, his trust numbers are even lower. >> basically the american public has told us they're not big fans of either one of these candidates mark. trustworthiness. they say she's going to begin to try to heal that. how do you that in a speech? >> robby mook actually said today that she'll start to win back american people's trust once she's president because they'll see how awesome she is. it usually doesn't work that way. you first have to convince people to trust you with the job before you get a chance to prove how trustworthy you are. so she's got a problem there. saying that their message is that they're going to change the country by staying the course. that's cognitive dissoes nance. >> that's not what i'm saying. >> continue the change that we started eight years ago. people don't want that. >> that's not what i'm saying. i'm saying her message -- and i'll say it again for the third time. her message is i'm going to fight for you. he is going to fight for

himself. that is the entire message no matter how many times you try to change it. >> as fascinating as this exchange is, catyeis katy perry is singing. we go live now to the floor of the democratic national convention where pop star katy perry is bringing it. ♪ ♪

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♪ ♪ >> let's roar for hillary. >>

>> i want to thank you for watching "the kelly file" this week in philadelphia. keep it right here because our continuing coverage with hillary clinton and chelsea clinton continues right now with yours truly and bret baier. welcome to philadelphia. hillary clinton set to become the first woman ever to accept the nomination for president from a major party. good evening, everyone. i'm bret baier. >> hi everybody. i'm megyn kelly, and it is the final night of the democratic national consequencevention here in philadelphia. hillary clinton is facing the biggest moment of her political career. the democratic nominee is expected to speak about a, quote, moment of reckoning in america as katy perry sings about hearing me roar. >> she's roaring all right, setting up this historic moment. clinton's daughter chelsea, who will take the stage any