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factor." i'm bill o'reilly and remember the spin stops here. definitely looking out for you. breaking tonight, the trump campaign hits a critical cross roads with top advisers talking about the need for an intervention after a nonstop series of campaign trail controversies. welcome to "the kelly file," everyone, i'm megyn kelly. for days the republican presidential nominee has been faced with a series of negative headlines, and it would appear voters are taking note. as a brand new fox news poll finds mr. trump now trailing hillary clinton by ten percentage points. a month ago clinton was up by six. and over the past 24 hours, there have been reports after reports after reports suggesting, among other things, that republicans have started to consider abandoning mr. trump en
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masse, that senior party leaders are discussing how to replace him should he drop out of this race, and then there's this talk of an intervention by close advisers in hopes of restarting his approach to his campaign. rnc head ryan priebus, rudy giuliani, and newt gingrich are all reported attendees at the intervention, but when asked about it today, trump's campaign manager denied knowledge of a plan. >> this is the first i've heard about that. the campaign is focused and moving forward in a positive way. the only thing we have for intervention is media types that keep saying things that aren't true. >> in moments we'll get reaction from dr. ben carson, who's supporting mr. trump, but we begin with john roberts reporting from a trump rally in jacksonville. john? >> reporter: wrapped up just a few minutes ago, megyn. first of all, let me say this idea of discussions taking place should he drop out of the race,
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i wouldn't put a whole lot of stock in that. i talked to the trump campaign, i talked to the republican national committee, nobody thinks the republican national committee that trump is going to drop out and the trump campaign is absolutely saying he's in this through to november. now to this idea of an intervention. it's a word being bandied about. it's not going to be donald trump walking into a room and ten of his closest advisers and family members going to be there saying, hey, we have to talk. this is where you're going to get some of this from dr. ben carson, because he's interested in this, as well. it would be just a series of phone calls from people like reince priebus, newt gingrich, perhaps ben carson, rudy giuliani, mike huckabee, to say, look, you've got to stop getting off message the way you have been with the attack against the khan family. yesterday in sterling, virginia, you accepted a purple heart from a veteran of the iraq war and said i always wanted to have one of these and this is much easier.
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anyone awarded a purple heart would tell you that's a medal you least aspire to get. friend of mine had his legs blown off in iraq certainly feels that way, but they want to get trump back on message to the best of his ability. tonight he was better, again talked about the purple heart, but in different terms than he did yesterday. he also talked about gold star families, who he had here at the actual event with him, so very different tone from trump tonight, and he led off the rally tonight with a sharp attack on hillary clinton and the obama administration about the $400 million handed over to iraq at the same time that those hostages were coming up. so the message does seem to be getting through to them. lieutenant general michael flynn who introduced donald trump tonight kind of downplayed the idea an intervention was needed. here's flynn. >> you're hearing in the media today about some type of intervention that's going on in the trump campaign. the intervention is the intervention by the american people against washington, d.c. that's what the intervention is.
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>> reporter: advisers have called on trump many times in the past to stay on message. he seems to do it for a while, megyn, then kind of falls off the wagon. as one of his closest confidants told me tonight, donald trump will do whatever he wants. megyn? >> john roberts, thank you. joining us now, dr. ben carson, retired pediatric neurosurgeon. good to see you. donald trump will do what he wants. the problem for him, the american electorate will do what it wants, and he's ten points behind hillary in the latest fox news poll, nine points behind in the latest cnn poll, eight points in the latest nbc news poll, so his choices don't seem to be benefiting his campaign as of late. your thoughts? >> well, i'm not sure that the polls mean that much at this stage. it's really like the six weeks before the election when people really start paying attention, but the fact of the matter is, he is coming to the
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understanding that a lot of people are trying to bait him, because the left really doesn't have any good arguments for the many problems that are plaguing our society. therefore, it is absolutely imperative that they make this about personalities and about people. they do not want to make it about the issues. as he comes to a clear understanding of that, i think he will be able to stay on message, will not be so easily baited and pulled off message. >> we've been at this for a year-plus, this campaigning. you're telling me just now he's realizing his political opponents set traps for him? >> well, it's become so intense now, and it's going to get even more intense as, you know, we get closer to the election, particularly if they are tied or he may be pulling ahead, they'll pull out all stops. the list of things that they will do is unimaginable. >> that's true in every campaign. that's true in every campaign. >> i'll have to disagree.
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>> thing that got him in a lot of trouble was the way he responded to the khan family, going after the father and the mother of a fallen soldier, gold star family. latest fox news poll shows 69% of the polls said his response was out of bounds. only 19% said it was inbounds. do you admit he made a mistake in how he handled that family? >> well, there's no question that, you know, this is a family that's distraught. they've made a supreme sacrifice for the united states, giving their son, and when they speak, of course there's going to be some emotion there. and you should just give them a pass and move on. i think everybody would pretty much agree that's the case. >> but mr. trump didn't. >> donald would tell you that, too. >> because he suffered the political fallout, but most would do it out of a sense of decency, not political expediency. the question is, earlier today you were on cnn, i think it was,
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saying that the khans should apologize to donald trump. he should apologize to them, but he should apologize to him, too. why should they apologize to mr. trump? >> because they said things that was false. >> what did they say that was false? >> that he had never read the constitution. where did they get that from? it's unreasonable. >> he's stating his opinion that he didn't believe that. >> again, that's unreasonable. but here's the point that i'm making. >> i'm going to make that point, but i have to press you on that, dr. carson, i know you as an empathetic man, kind man, do you really believe this gold star family should apologize to donald trump, that has sacrificed their son to protect this nation, that were viciously attacked by the presidential nominee, that they owe him an apology? i just want to make sure you really believe that. >> try to listen very carefully to what i'm saying.
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we, as a society, have gotten ourselves into this tug of war where we get into our separate corners and try to demonize each other. the way that we get out of that is they come together, they shake hands, they exchange pleasantries, and apologies, and say, you know, we have better issues to deal with. they are both on the same side. they are fighting radical islamic terrorists. they lost a son doing that. donald wants to fight that, as well. they need to recognize that this is not something that we need to be pinning ourselves against each other, because it only weakens us. >> they don't like his proposed muslim ban, that's why they are upset with him. i've got to go. great to see you, as always. earlier today paul manafort told fox news the gop would turn focus back to hillary clinton and iran. and while mr. trump did indeed touch on the subjects, he did not exactly stay on message throughout. >> if hillary puts her people on the supreme court, okay, like
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who knows, elizabeth warren maybe will go, maybe. pocahontas. pocahontas. and those commercials were so false, just like hillary's commercials, they are so false. they are so false. like she's got the one with blood coming out of her eyes. i meant her nose, or her ears, or her mouth. but these people are perverted. i said in new jersey, they were dancing. those people could knock down the world trade center, most likely under the trump policy, wouldn't have been here, but the reporter all of a sudden remembered it totally different from the story. and he was groveling. i won't make the motions, because if i do, they'll say something. nobody's better to people with disabilities than me. i spent millions and millions on buildings taking care of people with disabilities.
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joining me now, ben dominiche, what is he doing relitigating every controversy from the primary season, ben? >> you know, this is really amazing to me. this is as silly as going back to the same poke stop over and over again and expecting it to be something different. it's not really news the trump campaign is in turmoil, because it's like this every day. as you were saying to dr. carson earlier, this is not something new. we've been talking about this for a year. the problem is, this is a guy if he became accessible to a number of american people, has the ability to beat her, but instead is going back and relitigating, reminding people over and over again of his problems, instead of talking about the many problems she has. >> david, really? and by the way, question for you as an attorney, the fact that trump has put ramps in his buildings is required by law.
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he doesn't get extra credit for that. you have to. >> but they are very expensive in his buildings, megyn. the type of stuff he was saying today fires up his base. don't kid yourself, but megyn, anybody who's watched the coverage of donald trump and hillary clinton over the past week, do not kid yourself. the mainstream media is trying to do the same thing to trump as the dnc did to bernie sanders, destroy him. >> that's -- >> you win. >> that's what you do. true the mainstream media now hates trump. loved him during the primary season, wanted him to run against hillary, they got their wish. now the critical coverage begins. but must he help them? must he help them so generously every day? >> that's for sure. >> every single day that he comes out here, he gives them a headline, then another headline, then another headline, to the degree by the time you get to the end of the day, which
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outrageous thing did he say today that we have to make the top story tomorrow? you have a veritable feast of things to pick from to throw at him. the problem is he's helping them. not just the media is biased, because that's not new. he's giving them aid and comfort and help along the way. >> are they going to have to replace him on the ticket? "washington post" says republicans have reached a new level of panic. somebody saying i'd break his thumbs if i could, they said manafort has all but given up. this is all mainstream press reporting that some of the staffers are on suicide watch because manafort has lost control of the candidate. this is what the mainstream media is saying now. >> megyn, i got off the phone with a campaign official a couple of hours ago, he said this is all garbage. i believe him. comp scandal to the scandal sheet that reads like "war and peace" that hillary clinton is racking up. also, megyn, $400 million ransom
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by obama and hillary clinton gave it a stamp of approval today. >> you just outlined the whole rest of the show, we have it covered, david, nice to see you, ben, nice to see you, too. >> thank you, megyn. >> politics is fun. so we also have breaking news on the bomb shell allegations that president obama sent what republicans are calling a ransom payment to free american hostages from iran. we'll speak next to sergeant robert bartlett injured by an iranian made bomb about the twist to this story. plus, may be our biggest interview yet, attorneys for three of the officers charged are here in an exclusive interview about the officers, the charges, and what we're learning about the prosecutor marilyn mosby. >> we do not believe that freddie gray killed himself. we stand by the medical examiner's determination that
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it was holding hostage. concerns it was going to look a lot like ransom, and when the white house was pressed on the issue today, watch how press secretary josh earnest handled it. >> isn't it, essentially, a ransom payment then, even if the u.s. did not view it that way? >> no, it is not a ransom payment. >> would those prisoners have been released then if that money hasn't been paid then? >> i think what's true is there was a team of negotiators. >> again, would those prisoners have been released then if this money had not been paid to them? >> what i can tell you is our negotiators, who were talking with the iranians about what was necessary to secure the release of american citizens in iran succeeded. >> it was a simple question. would those --
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>> let me say -- >> if the money wasn't paid on that same weekend? >> well, again, i guess what i'm saying is, a pretty simple negotiation that took place. >> yes, so we have our answer. in moments we'll speak to retired staff sergeant robert bartlett, who was injured by an iranian made bomb in iraq, also opposed to the iranian nuclear agreement. first, james rosen has new developments tonight in washington. james? >> megyn, good evening. the justice department says tonight it supported the ultimate outcome, which included this secret payment of $400 million in hard foreign currency on or about the very day iran released five american hostages. beyond that, however, doj is not responding to the objection to the payment but lost an interagency tussle over it.
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aids to secretary of state john kerry acknowledged today that they recognized back in january the quote, unquote optics of the secret payment looked bad but they forged ahead anyway because they needed to, quote, get creative in dealing with a hostage foreign government. >> as for the timing, i simply can't answer conclusively that these hostages -- these detainees, americans, were on the plane before that money arrived. what i can say, though, categorically, there was not any kind of understanding on the part of the iranians, and certainly not on the part of us, that these two were linked, that one had to happen before the other. >> u.s. officials said the $400 million was money the shah of iran paid the u.s. for an arms deal before iran seized 52 american hostages and washington froze the regime's assets. obama aides said the cargo plane full of cash represented a down payment on a reasonable settlement of $1.7 billion,
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interest included. >> we don't give them access to hard currency for the reason that if they get their hands on cash, they give that to hezbollah and to hamas and use it as they recently did to overthrow a friendly government to the united states in yemen. >> and late tonight, the pentagon told our producer lucas tomlinson the defense department played no role in the secret payment. megyn? >> james, thank you. joining us now, retired staff sergeant robert bartlett, who was injured in iraq back in 2005. also mark thiessen, and larry core, former assistant defense secretary and senior fellow at the center for american progress. thank you for being here. sergeant, start with you on your thoughts on, first of all, whether you believe we did not pay this as a ransom, as the administration claims. >> it's evident. it's definitely a ransom.
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you don't do hard currency in exchange of prisoners. that's exactly what it is. you can't explain it any other way. the press secretary tried to. >> iranian made bomb, how's that make you feel? >> means we've got more coming. we've got more bombs coming. for $100 million you could buy a tactical nuke or icbm with -- with the people that train up your military on how to use it for $100 million, so that means they could buy four. >> whenever we pay the money, exactly. mark, you said last night you don't believe this wasn't ransom and that no one should believe it. when you watch that denial, that attempted denial by josh earnest, it's obvious. >> it's completely obvious. look, if you believe this wasn't a ransom, you probably believe hillary clinton didn't send or receive classified information and that benghazi was about an
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internet video. it's so obvious this was a ransom. this money has been in dispute since 1979, and suddenly in the dead of night 40 years later a plane arrives secretly with pallets of swiss franks the day american hostages are released and we have to believe it was a coincidence? of course it was a ransom. but here's the point, megyn, it doesn't matter whether the obama administration thought it was a ransom. what matters is the iranians think it was a ransom. you just reported about how the justice department objected to this. the reason they objected is because they believe that sending pallets of swiss francs to the iranians might send a signal to the iranians they are getting a ransom. they didn't want to send that signal. >> that's obvious, right? come on. to everybody out there, larry, who's thinking, duh, what say you? >> well, the president said in
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january that, in fact, he was going to give them a $1.7 billion, which was their money, plus interest, which there was a case before the international tribunal in the hague, and it looked like we were going to have to pay $10 billion. so, in effect, this is their money, and "the wall street journal" article that everybody's talking about, cia director brennan said it's going to development. he didn't see any other things which we talked about before. it's their money. you're going to have to give it to them at some time, and obama told us in january. to me when i saw this story, i thought, well, we already knew that. gave them $400 million in cash. >> swiss currency, air dropped in the middle -- it was like, we learned a little bit more. >> well, we did, but the fact of the matter is, one of the reasons they wanted hard currency is because we have other sanctions that prevent them from getting the money from the banks. >> we had to do an end around our own sanctions.
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mark, what do you say to larry's theory? >> well, the problem is, one, the idea that they -- josh earnest said the same thing today, they spent it on infrastructure, they were waiting for cash for shovel-ready projects. the reasons you don't give hundreds of millions to a terrorist regime is because they are going to spend hundreds of millions on terror. that's what they do, this is their moe discuss op ron die. the problem is, doesn't matter what larry thinks, what i think, you think, what anybody thinks whether it's a ransom. the iranians said they believe it's a ransom payment. why would they think that? maybe because this same administration just a few months before that traded five taliban leaders in exchange for an american hostage. so people can be forgiven in the world, terrorist leaders in the world can be forgiven for thinking the obama administration was in the money for hostages business. and the problem with that is, when you give -- when you give money for hostages, it creates
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an incentive for them to take more hostages, which they are already doing and giving more money. >> larry, last word. >> it's their money. this is $400 million of their money, which we kept and not gave them what they bought. they bought planes from us. after the regime change we didn't send it. it's their money. there's no more money there that they are still owed under this. >> okay. >> and the government hasn't said this officially. some of the people in there, but the iranian government hasn't said this was a payoff. >> what a shock. all right, guys, it's great to see you all. thank you. >> thank you, megyn. also tonight with all the attention on trump, the larger media may have missed a couple of big clinton controversies. we have been paying attention and they are here next to catch us up. plus, what may be our biggest interview yet when it comes to marilyn mosby's prosecution of the baltimore
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file," with megyn kelly. >> for the last 72 hours, political writers have been drinking from a fire with so much of their attention surrounding team trump, the media has barely noticed a couple of troubling stories for rival hillary clinton. first, the entire senior leadership of the dnc had to quit. have you heard that? after e-mail leaks showing them conspireing against bernie sanders, among other things, then the democratic nominee is accused of lying directly to chris wallace when claiming fbi director james comey described her as being truthful about her private e-mail server. in that same interview she was asked about lying to the mother of a benghazi victim, as has been alleged, and she passed that off by suggesting pat smith was too distressed to understand what secretary clinton was saying. joining me now, chris dyer, and dana parrino, co-host of "the five." good to see you both. dana, let me start with you.
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let's just start with this entire resignation of the leaders at the dnc. in those e-mails, not only was the dnc conspireing against sanders, but there was misogyny, there was racism, there was anti-semitism, and where has that been? why isn't that made the front page of all these papers? >> well, when that all was happening as the dnc got started, on the first day of hillary clinton's convention, she had a terrible start to her convention. feels like a long time ago, but it was really only ten days, and they moved ahead of the chairwoman of the democratic national committee, and i really think once that was over for them and they had moved on at the dnc, at the convention, the rest of the staff didn't matter as much. there was some coverage of it, but as you're saying, drinking from a fire hose, i also think of it as an emergency room. the reporters are in triage and they've got to decide which story is the most important one. "the new york times" today on the e-mail with comey and
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clinton and whether she lied to chris wallace, "the new york times" public editor said we should have covered this, why didn't we cover this? the explanation, we kind of already have. they felt they had already done that, so they passed it by. >> the explanation kind of stunk, chris, we already knew she lied. when she lied again about her lying, we didn't think it was a story. >> asked and answered, right? lying, liars, that's how they roll. i think this, i think this is sort of like a voyage to the campaign that might have been, to the election that might have been. donald trump and hillary clinton both agree that this election is about donald trump, and they both talk about donald trump every day, and so what might have been this week is that those stories would have gotten huge coverage because of the things that dana described and you described and sort of the huh deal that you're going to get for hillary clinton in the establishment press. but donald trump made sure they didn't have any problem.
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there was no problem, because we were talking. everybody had to talk all week long so far about the roil in the campaign, stories that had nothing to do except the horse race. that was the gift to hillary clinton. >> the other thing we're seeing right now, i know you watch it as carefully as anybody, is the media has now decided to get trump. and he did a lot of controversial thing in the primaries, as he reminded us of at length today at his own campaign rally. he did a lot of controversial things then, but now the media is like let's talk about it. i mean, you tell me, dana, even msnbc, their morning program over there, they could not have promoted trump more, and now today joe scarborough is out there talking about how three times in one meeting he asked why we couldn't drop a nuclear weapon. once trump got mad at him, he stopped saying nice things about him. >> it was always going to be this, because that's what happens. same thing with romney. media loves romney until he won
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the primary. >> right. >> then they went after him and attacked him viciously and he went on to lose. if you're the republican candidate, you have to factor that into your thinking. it is a blessing and the curse to be the media's favorite because they are always talking about you, and in some ways you think if they are always talking about me, that's a good thing. some of his poll numbers, core supporters, donald trump has held on to them, but the story chris has talked about, given a choice, reporters will always cover the process story first. it's more interesting to talk about intrigue inside the trump campaign or the clinton campaign. >> we're lazy, we're lazy. we are. what about that, donald trump also the report out of the washington post five times in an interview he stopped to watch television. he loves what he sees on television, sometimes he hates what he sees on television. we are just a mirror. that's all we are, a mirror to what we see from these politicians. and the question is whether trump is now getting elected, this beast he loves so much may
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not love him back. >> i think newt gingrich talked about it today, about the difference, the reason trump is engaged in what gingrich is calling self destructive behavior, the game has changed. when you're in a 17-person dog pile, being the dog that barks the loudest, you stay in the news. people are trying to find out about the freshman senator of florida or governor of ohio, they just hear about donald trump. it being a referendum on donald trump was fine in the primary. won't work in the general. >> she's making news of her own -- >> exactly, exactly. >> great to see you both. >> you bet. there's breaking news coming in right now. one woman is dead, five other people injured after a knife attack in central london. people are now describing it as a possible terror attack. we're just getting news on this. hearing this in my ear, just crossing the news wires. the last couple of minutes, we're going to try to get more information for you, hopefully
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developing tonight, a new twist in the saga of the baltimore six, as a woman described as one of marilyn mosby's top prosecutors abruptly resigns. now that prosecutor has been pushing to drop the remaining cases before ms. mosby actually did so under pressure last week. but mosby made it clear that while she may have abandoned those charges, she does not believe justice was served. >> we do not believe that freddie gray killed himself. we stand by the medical examiner's determination that freddie gray's death was a
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homicide. >> and she went on. joining us now in a tv exclusive tonight, marc zayon, katherine flynn, and michael belsky, but first to trace gallagher with a report from our west coast newsroom. trace? >> first, the attorney's office said there was zero truth to rumors lisa fephelps was leavin and now that she has quit, the state's attorney isn't commenting on her. phelps was assigned to prosecute two of the final three trials, and she raised concerns about whether the trials should go forward, but state's attorney marilyn mosby said the reason she decided to drop the remaining charges is because the judge overseeing the trial was unlikely to convict and because she accused police of undermining the case. watch. >> unlike with other cases where prosecutors work closely with the police to investigate what actually occurred, what we
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realized very early on in this case was that police investigating police, whether they are friends or merely their colleagues, was problematic. >> the current baltimore police commissioner has defended the investigation. the previous commissioner has called marilyn mosby incompetent and vindictive, and the police union has sharply criticized her accusations, calling them malicious and baseless. it's worth noting the police union nearly doubled the dues of members to pay for the officers trials and even though the charges have been dropped, the dues are not going down because the union believes mosby will continue going after cops. experts point out the criminal justice system relies heavily on cooperation between police and prosecutors, but in baltimore the rift between the two is vast. so far at least two complaints have been filed with the marilyn attorney grievance commission to have marilyn mosby disbarred. megyn? >> trace, thank you. joining me now in a tv exclusive, marc zayon, attorney
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for mark nehro, mark belsky, and katherine flynn, attorney for garrett miller. your clients have been through quite an ordeal and i'm sure you're very relieved the charges are now officially dropped, but i want to ask you about marilyn mosby. there's a push to have her disbarred. do you believe she ought to be? >> i think there's a process for the attorney grievance commission to respond to complaints that have been filed, and ultimately it's up to the court of appeals to make that kind of decision, but i certainly think it's appropriate for the attorney grooechs commission to respond to the complaint filed and investigate this. >> you think it was that bad? >> yes. >> why? >> from the very beginning of the prosecution of this case, we've been concerned about the motivation behind the prosecutor's actions and whether or not there was ever probable cause perceived. as you know, they relied on a grand jury indictment where they
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claimed that they properly presented evidence and that probable cause was found. we actually made a request to have that entire proceeding recorded, which was denied, because we had concern from the very beginning about what information the prosecutor's office was actually going to present to the grand jury. >> that's one of the questions, marc, apart from disregarding some of the evidence, whether this was a prosecutor hell bent on getting a certain result no matter where the evidence took her. >> right, seems she started with a theory she was going to indict the officers no matter what the evidence showed. she did no investigation. the baltimore city police department did a phenomenal investigation showing there was no wrong doing. >> she's ripping on the cops there, that's why she's ripping on them. >> exactly, and when she gave her speech at the war memorial, she talked about the extensive in-depth investigation her office did, in conjunction with the sheriff's department and baltimore city, none of which seems to have happened. there was no indication or
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evidence of any investigation done at all. >> really? that was bull? >> it's a farce. >> so what did she indict these cops based on? >> well, she wanted to indict them. she indicted them with no evidence, there was no evidence. i think she was hopeful that evidence would develop, but as the case went on, it turned out that not only did evidence not develop, there was negative evidence, exculpatory evidence. >> piece by piece the case started to fall apart, mike, including the knife. she said these cops have no business arresting freddie gray. they claimed he had an illegal knife on him, but she said the knife was legal. then you guys came out and said that knife was not legal, and she said never mind, the knife had nothing to do with the case. >> that's a problem. that's a problem when any law enforcement officer, be it prosecutor or police officer, arrests and charges people without probable cause. that is a problem. that's what our clients were charged with. they didn't do it. and now we have a prosecutor who's done that to our clients,
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so now what? they've been charged with crimes they didn't commit, crimes we believe were lacking in probable cause, so who will be accountable for that? somebody must be accountable if there's no probable cause and they were arrested. >> how scary was it for him to be on the receiving end of that? >> imagine that, you spend your life as a law enforcement officer devoted to your community, devoted to helping people, devoted to the criminal justice system, then you have to watch the criminal justice system turn its back on you and fail you. >> and even when there was an acquittal, a hung jury and so on, she still would not let go and said -- kept saying she was going to get justice for freddie gray. not just justice, which is her job. what was the reaction when you heard her say that? >> i was offended the first time i heard her speaking about this matter. it seemed very clear that she was speaking to a certain
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segment of the community, but she was not -- >> this is your moment. our time is now was one of her hash tags. she was clearly politicizing this opportunity, as opposed to doing her job. >> that's what happened down in north carolina. similarities between the two cases? >> i think there is a parallel, and it's, you know, from our point of view it's an abuse of the process. the question becomes, who is policing the prosecutor when their efforts are veiled in secrecy and they can hide behind the secrecy of the grand jury and hide behind the work product of their investigation, when, in fact, what's become clear is that they never had a case to begin with. and we are all grateful that judge williams properly evaluated the evidence and found that -- >> who knows, who knows, that's the scary thing. i have to ask you, a man is dead, and there was no reason for somebody, even suspected on a drug crime, to wind up dead in the -- cops didn't buckle him
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in, they were supposed to buckle him in, and you know many people feel that it would have been justice to have the cops face charges. go ahead. >> so, there are accidents that happen, and when there are accidents, that doesn't mean there's criminal liability, so this is a criminal charge. osecutor. and i was a prosecutor. when you're a prosecutor, you investigate, you follow the evidence, you go where the evidence leads you. you take your time. you don't rush to indict. >> you have no problem with the internal review going on at the police department? >> there should be an internal review, absolutely. >> just the criminalization of a questionable police officer -- police action. >> correct. and i don't think the internal investigation will show there was any wrong doing by the officers. i think everything that they did, specifically with regard to officer nero, but everyone else, as well. it was done with officers discretion for the safety of the people involved.
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>> how have their lives changed? >> imagine you go from a private citizen, from being somebody who's out there helping the community, to being splashed all over the news, your mug shot being put on the local news every night. it's devastating. devastating to my client, devastating to their clients, devastating to the other three officers. it's a horrific thing. >> it's not over yet. the review is ongoing, thank you all. we appreciate it. we'll be right back. ♪
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breaking tonight, one woman is dead, five others injured after a knife attack in central london police say could be a possible terror attack. we are just getting this in, trace gallagher is tracking this from our breaking news desk. trace? >> just within hours people are already saying, as you mentioned, terrorism is a possibility. how they came to that conclusone is unclear. we know police were called to russell square 10:00 p.m. london time after the reports of a man attacking people with the knife. the woman was killed, five others injured, the severity of their injuries we do not know. the suspect was taken into custody after police used a
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taser to knock him down. the attack took place, again, in russell square, which is a popular area, if those who know london would know it's near the university of london and the british museum. the area is also home to a memorial commemorating the 7/7 bombings that happened back in 2005. the attack, of course, that killed more than 50. and just hours ago, coincident tally, london authorities announced 600 additional officers would be deployed around highly visible areas around london in the wake of recent terror attacks in europe. as the london police commissioner said, look, anybody who's following events in europe well knows for the past few weeks they want to show their determination to protect the public. a crime scene tent has now been put up in russell square as we get more information, megyn, we'll bring it to you. >> all right, trace, thank you. we'll be right back. don't go away. allergy relief. most allergy pills only control one inflammatory substance.
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