o'reilly factor election 2016 special. i'm eric bolling in for bill o'reilly. please remember the spin stops right here because we're looking out for you. big news breaking tonight on the campaign trail as donald trump comes out to endorse house speaker paul ryan. and surprisingly, he's not the only one who got the trump seal of approval. in a move that could signal a new phase in trump's run for the white house. welcome, everyone, to "the kelly file." special, the road to november. i'm trish regan, in for megyn kelly tonight. for months the relationship between the republican nominee and the nation's most powerful republican has appeared tenuous at best. but tonight, just days before speaker ryan's wisconsin primary, mr. trump traveled to ryan's home state to declare his support for the speaker. but in a shocking move, mr. trump also endorsed two other

prominent republicans he's been butting heads with. watch. >> we will have disagreements, but we will disagree as friends and never stop working together toward victory. and very importantly, toward real change. so in our shared mission to make america great again, i support and endorse our speaker of the house, paul ryan. paul ryan. good. he's a good man. he's a good man, and he's a good

guy. and we may disagree on a couple of things, but mostly we agree, and we're going to get it done, and we're going to do a lot of wonderful things. he's a good man. and while i'm at it, i hold in the highest esteem senator john mccain for his service to our country, in uniform and in public office, and i fully support and endorse his re-election. very important. we'll work together. i also fully support and endorse senator kelly ayotte of new hampshire. >> all right. in just a couple moments, we're going to be joined by chris stirewalt and howie kurtz to talk about what it all means for

the party and how the media has been handling this. but we begin tonight with senior national correspondent john roberts reporting live from green bay, wisconsin, where mr. trump has been holding his rally. john, it looks like mccain and kelly ayotte, they made out pretty well tonight. >> reporter: yeah, and paul ryan as well. let me first of all just assure trump's supporters that donald trump has not completely changed his spots. he's the same donald trump. he called hillary clinton the queen of corruption, disgusting, just referred to elizabeth warren as pocahontas. so the old donald trump is still very much there. but what's really, really different tonight and i was struck by this is when he was talking, when he was leading up to the endorsement of speaker ryan, senator mccain, and senator ayotte, the whole kind of framework of the way that he's been talking about this election was completely different this evening. you know, he's in the past talked about, well, i'd like to have the support of the republican party, but if i don't, i'm going to go it alone. i mean these were some of the things he was saying in the preamble.

quote, it's not about me or any one candidate. it's about america. he was reading from notes to make sure he got all of this the way the campaign really wanted. he said, we've done something, all of us. i'm just a messenger. he went on to say i need a republican senate and house to accomplish all of the changes i have to make. i think the leaders of the republican national committee, i think that the ryan people, and i think some of the others across the country looked at this and said, this is the type of candidate we want. this is the type of candidate who is standing up as the leader of the republican party, the standard bearer. he's talking about party unity. we'll see if that lasts, trish. he's kind of gone down this road a little bit in the past only to veer off of if. but i think it the last 48 hours, maybe it was an intervention but a lot of people have gotten in his ear to say this is the message you need to hit going forward. and he's been right on message when it comes to attacking hillary clinton and the obama administration and other democrats. again, we'll see how long it lasts. >> thank so much, john roberts. what does this endorsement mean for the republican party?

joining us now, chris stirewalt and howie kurtz. howie, you know, he went a step further than folks thought he would there, not just endorsing ryan but of course coming through for mccain and kelly ayotte in new hampshire. does this signal a turning point for donald trump and the republican party? >> come on, trump looked about as enthusiastic as if he were endorsing the zika virus. i mean nobody is fooled by this papering over of the differences. the fundamental and political and personal differences between trump and paul ryan, trump and john mccain. as early as this morning, an adviser close to trump told me, well, he doesn't endorse in primaries. but clearly he was under pressure from his own people, from his own party, to stop the bleeding, by which i mean the negative media coverage, a lot of which has had to deal with this unseemly spectacle of gop presidential nominee publicly feuding with the gop house speaker. >> chris, if that's the case, is it going to cost him at all? one would think, okay, it's going to bring in more republicans. but don't forget, he doesn't want to alienate his base at

all. >> in the narrow sense, this is a price that trump is paying for having screwed up on the khan family and his spat with them, the parents of the officer killed in iraq. so this is -- he has to pay this price. he upset his party. he made them angry. they yelled at him. they told him that they might drop their endorsement of him. so this is sort of the price he has to pay, but it works in -- >> but let me just jump in and say would it have been appropriate for him not to? i mean there was part of me that thought,ing on, he's just stringing everybody along here. at some point we'll come through with paul ryan. he wants to give him a taste of his own medicine because don't forget, paul ryan did the exact same thing to him. >> i'm sure it was in part an effort to belittle paul ryan and make this seem worse. but also it served an important purpose for trump. they put this story out. remember, "the washington post," which trump forbids to cover his campaign rallies as a news outlet, he invited them in at the beginning of the week to make sure it was clear that he did not endorse ryan and that he

was against mccain. so he put this story out there. it is a counterweight to the problems with the khan family. in one sense, it's been a very bad week for donald trump. but in another sense, he had this story as a counternarrative, and at the end, paul ryan was going to win anyway. and now donald trump can claim some of the credit for that. >> well, there you go. and i'm sure we'll hear from him on that front when paul ryan does win. from a media perspective, what's your thought on the coverage of this thus far, howie? >> this past week, i have never seen anything like it. this barrage of bullets, it's like the mainstream media put out a mob hit on donald trump. now, look, there were a lot of unforced errors here beginning with attacking a gold star family, wandering off message, megyn kelly, the disabled "new york times" reporter, but for all of that, there seems to be -- and with trump dipping in the polls, which i know you want to get to, there seems to be a collective feeling in the

mainstream media is the race is slipping away. you have conservative pundits as well as liberal pundits calling him crazy or mentally unbalanced or acting like a child. it is really intense. >> you look at those polls and we had the fox news poll out recently. but i would point out that throughout this entire process, polls have been pretty erratic and all over the place. granted the latest polls aren't great when you look at them from his perspective. nonetheless -- >> it's august. >> i agree with you. there's still another 100 days to go, and anything can happen. and he has seen, certainly, in this campaign that anything can happen, and he does make some dramatic comebacks and he may in fact do it again. but are there commentators, are there journalists out there that are effectively dancing on his grave right now, that are enjoying this because it's kind of like i told you so? >> i think there is a moment of vindication here, particularly for many of these conservative commentators who were never trump in the primaries. now they feel like, see, we

warned you if you nominated this guy, this was going to happen. at the same time, i think that trump has been running against the president since the day he got in this race. but it leaves him with few defenders in the media when every single thing he does -- he threw a baby out of the rally -- becomes the latest metaphor for how he's doing. >> can he change the story beginning tonight? >> well, he planted the story. he changed the story. all of this gets it off the khans, which is good, because that was a real dog for trum. but let's have been clear. the polls have not been up and down. all of this huff and puff, this junk that people are talking about now, trump is collapsing or this is happening, the polls haven't changed that much. if you throw out the garbage polls that media outlets and politicians use when it looks good for them, if you stick with real polls like the fox news poll, "wall street journal" polls, trump is down.

but structurally, trump has never been that far down, and he is within striking distance. this isn't a collapse, the race just looks different now because it's after the convention. >> putting those third party candidates into it, hillary clinton actually fares worse. there are dramatic new developments tonight on donald trump's fight with a gold star family after the dad took his story to pakistani tv. this is just ahead. plus after a week of controversy on the campaign trail, some republicans want the gop candidate to change his message. mark thiessen and boris epstein are next on whether that could be a dangerous idea. >> and then almost eight months after her last news conference, hillary clinton today agreed to take some reporter questions. what do you know? wait until you see how that one went, just ahead. >> are you mischaracterizing director comey's testimony, and is this not undercutting your efforts to rebuild trust with the american people?

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all right. as howie kurtz was just mentioning a moment ago, before the big news broke tonight about donald trump endorsing speaker paul ryan, we were hearing reports this week suggesting some republicans were hoping to have what they called an

intervention with their candidate. the list included rnc chair reince priebus, former new york mayor rudy giuliani, and former house speaker newt gingrich. the goal would be to reportedly help trump change his tone and focus on his opponent. it all comes after a week in which we heard statements like these here. watch. >> if hillary puts her people on the supreme court, okay, like who knows? elizabeth warren maybe will go. maybe. pocahontas. pocahontas. and those commercials were so false, just like hillary's commercials. they're so false. they're so false. like she's got the one with blood coming out of her eyes, and i meant her nose or her ears or her mouth. but these people are perverted. i said in new jersey, they were dancing. those people that knocked down

the world trade center, most likely under the trump policy, wouldn't have been here. but the reporter all of a sudden remembered it totally different from his story, and he was groveling. i won't make the motions because if i do, they'll say something, you know. nobody is better to people with disabilities than me. i spend millions and millions of dollars on buildings taking care of people with disabilities. >> okay. so he was having some fun there. mark thiessen along with richard fouler and senior fellow with the new leaders council and boris epshteyn, a republican strategist and senior adviser with the trump campaign. boris, starting with you, regardless of whether this meeting is actually happening or not this weekend, it does seem as though people out there are trying to rein him in. his endorsements tonight, they may be part of that effort. let me ask you. does he need to be reined in, or do you fear it's going to cause

him to lose some of the very essence of what makes him so popular with his base? >> he does not need to be reined in. there was no intervention. some unnamed source and rudy giuliani went out there and said that term shouldn't have been used. there's ongoing discussions with donald trump, with his family, the campaign and leading republicans. that's what makes a good campaign. that's probably why donald trump received 14 million votes in the primary, more than any republican in the history of the gop. as he continues toward winning on november 8, you will see the donald trump you've seen over the last year. but of course you also see a dogged concentration on national security, on foreign policy and showing the american people what a terrible candidate hillary clinton is. >> boris is making the point that this is just politics as normal for the trump campaign. but it seemed as though, as we were heading into the convention in philadelphia, donald trump was faring pretty well. in one poll he was tied with hillary clinton, and now all of a sudden, he's struggling. and m between that, you had the

khan situation and you heard some of those comments of course that were just made recently in daytona beach, florida. so does he need to focus his message a little bit more? you've got an economy that's seriously struggling right now. an international situation which is clearly in a form of chaos. does he need to focus on these two things and stay away from the rest of it? >> oh, my gosh, yes. look, the fact that -- the fact that the republican presidential nominee just endorsed the republican speaker and two republican senators for re-election is not news. the fact that it is news shows what a disaster the trump campaign has been for the last week. this is a dog bites man story. it shouldn't be leading our news story. this is normal procedure. but it just shows what a terrible week donald trump has had. i mean if you think about the last week, what a target-rich environment this was for donald trump. hillary clinton caught again lying about her e-mails on fox

news sunday. four pinocchios from "the washington post." pants on fire from poe lit fact. then we discovered that the obama administration swissed $400 million on a secret flight to tehran. instead he spent the first part of the week fighting with a gold star family and he spent the second part of the week fighting with paul ryan, john mccain, and kelly ayotte who criticized him for fighting with a gold star family. if hillary clinton had scripted donald trump's campaign this week to distract from her trouble, she couldn't have done any better. >> i think richard might agree with you. >> i absolutely do agree. donald trump is like a dog ch s chasing its tail. boris talks about how the campaign is going to be focused on national security. when? that's the question everybody keeps asking. the trump strategists have over and over said, oh, he's now going to focus on homeland security. he's now going to focus on this. then he goes back to misogyny. he goes back to attacking people

with discrimination. he goes back to talking about how much money he spent on retrofitting his buildings, which is part of the americans with disabilities act as folks at home already know. donald trump, he might be a billionaire, but he does not know how to run a presidential campaign. a presidential campaign is about telling the story of the american people, and sadly he is not a good storyteller. >> look, boris, he's had some challenges this week. you got to admit it. you can't ignore the elephant in the room there. he has had some challenges. can he recover now from this? i think that's the question. we've got 100 days to go here, and anything can happen in politics. he seems as though he's trying to pivot here tonight by making these endorsements. is it going to be -- and i know we said this before. but is this going to be a different kind of donald trump from here on out? >> it won't be a different kind of donald trump. you will see both sides of the spectrum. there's two parts to this. donald trump is the best candidate the gop has ever seen by votes in the primary.

the other part is hillary clinton is a liar. she's not only someone who lies, she lies about lying as was just prof proven. then you have to talk about the $400 million ransom paid to iran. donald trump has been against the iran deal from the beginning. that's probably why he joined this rate, to make absolutely sure that that deal -- >> i mean these are big issues and you're absolutely right. there's a lot for him to chew on there. the other thing i'd mention to mark and get your final thoughts, i think we are in an extraordinary time where traditional politics has basically been thrown out the window. and, you know, he has tapped into an amazing amount of anger and frustration in this country. and it almost feels like most americans are saying or many americans are saying, you know what? enough. i want change, and i'm willing to take the risk that goes with that. what do you say, mark? >> i absolutely think that's possible, but the problem is that donald trump wasn't talking about those things that boris just mentioned. he was talking about a gold star

family. he was talking about -- he spent the entire week fighting with these republicans. when you send your kids out to a soccer game, you send them out, and you say, go shoot on the other team's goal. he spent the entire week shooting on his own team's goal, and he's going to lose if he -- >> but that's not what actually happened. >> that's exactly what happened. >> no. you look at -- [ overlapping voices ] >> he's going to listen to a lot of people now for sure and get back on message because it's the economy, the economy, the economy, and national security. thanks so much, guys. dramatic new developments today in the showdown between donald trump and the father of a muslim soldier who died fighting for america. rich lowry and attorney david wall are next on what this dad said about trump and what he said about america when he took his story to pakistani tv.

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khizr khan says allah makes people like trump make such mistakes to discredit them permanently. in other words, allah is against trump. i guess allah is rooting for hillary in this one. why did from khan feel the need to take his message global while repeatedly insisting he is done giving interviews? david wall is an attorney and a donald trump supporter. rich lowry is the editor of the national review and a fox news contributor. david, starting with you, i mean the left had tried to hold up mr. khan as being totally above board. but now he's out there talking to international media, pakistani tv. how much do you think this hurts him, his reputation, and hillary clinton for that matter? >> well, there are certain things playing to his audience. there's no doubt about that. his audience is muslim fundamentalists, no doubt, a lot of them in pakistan. first at the dnc he politicized his son's death. now he's putting it in the

context of religious extremism, so i think it does put into context his whole speech at the dnc when he basically was off point when he said mr. trump wants a muslim ban. mr. trump wants a suspension of muslim immigration from hotbeds of terrorism. everybody knows that. i think mr. khan studied his proposal carefully, he would agree with him. but you have to wonder at that point whether he's on the dnc payroll going global with this bizarre message that allah is against trump. i mean did allah also cause hillary clinton to become a pathological liar and perjurier. >> we've got more coming up on hillary in just a moment. rich, your thoughts? it's one thing, right, for him to be criticizing trump here in america. it seems like a whole other thing when you go over and start talking to pakistan tv and talking about how allah is against trump. >> first of all, i haven't seen the full transcript of this interview, but in the synopsis is correct, one, i disagree with his theology. i don't think it's allah who is

making donald trump say these things. i think donald trump is quite capable of saying these things himself. and my advice to trump and the trump campaign and trump supporters would be to move on. as mike pence said, you can't fake good kids. captain khan was an american hero, a great patriot. by all accounts, mr. khan does legitimately carry around a u.s. constitution in his pocket. he gives away u.s. constitutions. he and his wife are very involved in the university of virginia rotc program. they honor those kids. they encourage them to serve this country. >> clearly he has a message he wants to get out. >> this is a horrible week attacking his family. if i were a trump supporter -- >> he's got a message he wants to get out, not in this country but overseas. that's causing some people [ overlapping voices ] >> hang on. first rich, and then we'll go with david. >> trish, you'd have to agree if your son goes to serve in iraq

and dies trying to protect other servicemen, that says something not just about him, but about your family. and that's why it was a real mistake for trump to fall into this trap and to attack this family. he should stop it, and ivery sm have told him to cease and desist. >> we saw him, david, tonight come out and endorse not just paul ryan but also john mccain and kelly ayotte. >> he's on message, trish. >> as i've asked some other of our guests here, is this a turning point? is he getting back on message? can he put the rest of these things behind him now? >> trish, absolutely it's a turning point. you saw a very professional, very polished guy tonight. you're going to see this stuff put aside. you're going to see him start focusing on hillary clinton, who when she's off prompter did what she did today, saying basically that jim combcy said she was telling the truth. she short circuited. you're going to see a lot of short-circuiting on hillary clinton's behalf in the next 90

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nearly 250 days ago. and today, at an event for black and hispanic journalists in washington, d.c., reporters made it pretty clear just how unique this moment was. watch. >> thank you for inviting me to address you today, and i look forward to taking some of your questions. >> i think on behalf of all of us, we encourage you to do this more often with reporters across the country. especially those news organizations that travel the country with you everywhere you go. >> well, fox news correspondent jennifer griffin is in washington where mrs. clinton also doubled down on some very questionable claims in her ongoing e-mail scandal. jennifer. >> reporter: trish, it's been eight months and one day since hillary clinton held a press conference. today she answered questions from the national associations of black and hispanic journalists. one of the questions she

received was to clarify remarks she made in an interview with fox news sunday's chris wallace, in which she said that fbi director james comey had said she was truthful in dealing with her e-mail server. >> director comey had said that my answers in my fbi interview were truthful. that's really the bottom line here. what i told the fbi, which he said was truthful, is consistent with what i have said publicly. so i may have short circuited it, and for that, you know, i will try to clarify because i think chris wallace and i were probably talking past each other. >> reporter: but here is what comey told congressman trey gowdy under oath. >> secretary clinton said there was nothing marking classified on her e-mails either sent or received. was that true? >> that's not true. there were a small number of portion markings on i think three of the documents. >> reporter: clinton went on to explain today why she says she never sent classified information.

>> a classified document has a big heading on the top which makes very clear what the classification is. director comey made the point that the three e-mails out of the 30,000 did not have the appropriate markings, and it was therefore reasonable to conclude that anyone, including myself, would have not suspected that they were classified. >> reporter: in a poll conducted by the university of chicago, more than half of the young white voters polled said that they believed that hillary clinton intentionally broke the law with her private e-mail server. but only 21% of african-american voters polled believe that she intentionally broke the law. trish. >> thank you so much, jennifer. considering what a big deal the media makes over donald trump's challenging moments, why don't they seem to care more about hillary clinton effectively lying? i mean she wasn't forthcoming

with our own chris wallace in her interview on sunday. she wasn't truthful when talking about sending classified e-mails. and she continued to double down on her position regarding her server again today. so why doesn't the mainstream media care. tezlyn figaro is a former bernie sanders presidential campaign standard. alan combs is the host of the alan combs show, and katrina pierson is a trump campaign national spokesperson. katrina, why can't hillary clinton just admit what she did was wrong and be done with it? >> well, you know, trish, i think what we see today is exactly why hillary clinton avoids doing press conferences, because she doesn't want to answer the questions. the entire case for her non-indictment is the fact that they can't prove intent. and the fact that she admits to any of those questions, then her case is blown out of the water. so she has to walk this very fine line and continue to repeat those lies hoping that the

public, the mass public, doesn't find out the truth. >> tezlyn, when you look at the way the media covers trump -- and they cover every little challenge he has along the way, some of which haven't been so little, some of which have been pretty big. but then you look at the way the media covers hillary clinton, and i would think, you know, as someone who had worked in bernie sanders' campaign, you might have been at times pretty frustrated that the media didn't make a bigger deal out of the e-mail issue. >> well, sure. i mean we see with wikileaks, that set of truth is still dripping loud and people continue to ignore it, that we see there's bias within the media, particularly the liberal media. what i would encourage my colleagues to do is instead of getting caught up in selfies and a coke and a smile, that we actually look beyond the speeches and look beyond the rhetoric and actually hold, if hillary clinton is the president of the united states, hold her and every politician that

addresses the body of black and brown journalists with the policies that they present and actually hold them accountable to those promises. one of the things that we've seen challenging time and time again is when you talk about a base of 90% of african-americans who voted for president obama and of course she's riding on that same hope, which she called the firewall, we look at that as a challenge because a lot of journalists can't ask the questions that they need to ask. they ask softball questions because they don't want to offend the readers. so we really want to get deep into what we should be asking, how we hold people accountable, we start to ask the tough questions. >> by the way, she's got to answer them. >> she has to take herself outside of her comfort zone, make herself available like mr. donald trump has. she has to do the same. >> transparency. transparency matters. let me share with you, alan, what jack welch tweeted a short

time ago, the former ceo of g.e. how about blatant lying by first clinton on fox news sunday regarding fbi and obama on ransom payment if republican ms media mainstream explodes. in other words, if this had been a republican that lied, if this had been a republican alan that had maintained their own e-mail server, there's no chance that republican ever would have gotten away with it. why does the media give her a pass? >> the media is not giving her a pass. this woman by the way stood up for 11 hours answering tough questions by hostile questioners. she went on chris wallace's show, no slouch in the tough question part. she has been forthcoming. in fact, if donald trump were smart, he'd avoid the media more because every time he opens his mouth, he's not telling the truth. he's lying about an iran tape. and, katrina, you got in trouble for saying that obama was responsible for the death of

khan. come on, talk about lying. >> she's been forth come something i don't think she's been very forthcoming. i mean it takes nearly 250 days to get a press conference out of her? >> you had a republican head of the fbi say that there was not enough information to indict, that he would not bring a case -- [ overlapping voices ] >> how much do y-- >> katrina, get in on this. >> i'm really glad that mr. combs brought up hillary's testimony because that now is under question considering how there's a possibility she committed perjury when answering those questions. >> you've got a lying candidate, katrina. your candidate lies about everything. >> let katrina finish. >> alan, alan -- [ overlapping voices ] >> i'd like to hear from katrina. go ahead. >> the decisions that mr. trump has made, alan, no one has died, and that is the problem here. she lied about people who were under her watch who died, and

then she stood in front of their caskets and lied to the faces of their families. i think that is far, far more -- >> if i could -- [ overlapping voices ] >> if i could speak. >> thank you to the whole team. i appreciate you joining me. still ahead, megyn's emotional interview with the wife of a late neurosurgeon who spoke freely about his journey with terminal illness in a power new book. polident's unique micro clean formula works in just 3 minutes, killing 99.99% of odor causing bacteria. for a cleaner, fresher, brighter denture every day. that i was ion the icelandic game show. and everyone knows me for discounts, like safe driver and paperless billing. but nobody knows the box behind the discounts.

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in 2013, paul kalanithi was a promising neurosurgeon nearing final days of residency. then a terminal cancer diagnosis changed everything. in an instant, the man behind life-saving injuries was now helpless to cure his own illness. his struggle is documented in the book, "when break becomes air," a memoir written by paul but completed by his wife lucy, who picked up the writing when paul could no longer do it. and what a message they share. in just a moment, we'll speak with lucy about her life with paul. but first we go to trace gallagher for more on their incredible story. trace. >> reporter: megyn, paul and lucy kalanithi met during their first year of medical school at yale. they later married and moved to california to begin their residencies, he at stanford, she at uc san francisco. in the book when breath becomes

air, the cal naththys acknowledge that before the diagnosis, their marriage was struggling. when paul realized he was sick, he writes, quoting, we sat on the couch, and when i told her, she knew. she leaned her head on my shoulder, and the distance between us vanished. despite the diagnosis, they decided to have a baby. elizabeth was born in july 2014. lucy wrote about the implications, quoting again, i fear it might make his death so much more painful if he had to say good-bye to a child. paul's response to her, well, wouldn't it be great if it did? paul later wrote to his daughter, you filled a dying man's days with a sated joy, a joy unknown to me in all my prior years, a joy that does not hunger for more and more, but rested satisfied. during his undergrad at stanford, paul cal nath thee studied literature and dreamed being a writer and despite the physical suffering, he continued to write. lucy kept her promise to finish

the manuscript and shepherd it to publication. writing in the new york times, quote, as now as i prepare to watch paul's work take on a life of its own, i begin to take on a life of my own. i've learned like the timing of bereavement is utterly unpredictable. she says she can no longer comfort him, but the other vow she made on her wedding day stretch well beyond death. megyn. >> trace, thank you. dr. lucy cal naththy joins me now. she's a clinical professor at stanford school of medicine and the wife of the late paul cal anthy. thank you so much for being here. it is such a beautiful story and so powerful in so many ways, giving everyone thoughts about life and death and what we're doing here and paul's search throughout his whole life for the meaning of life and of death. did he find it?

>> you know, i was talking with a friend of paul's recently who said something i really loved. he said, i think that paul felt the struggle to find meaning is the meaning. and i kind of think that's true, and i love it. >> yeah. that jumps off the pages. this is a man who, in addition to going to yale med school, studied literature at stanford, studied the history of medicine at cambridge, and was in a nonstop search to better understand death, only to find time after time in the academic setting, the details were unknowable. it wasn't until his diagnosis that the lights started to go off for him. >> right. you're right. he was really interested his whole life in mortality as sort of an intellectual, philosophical problem. then he wanted to grapple with it, so he entered medicine to be a doctor. and then at age 36, he himself was diagnosed with terminal cancer as you know. so suddenly, it was a very

personal, emotional challenge for him. >> the two of you growing together, med school, you know, it's so challenging. he writes in the book about the moment, the diagnosis. it's a less than a 0.01% chance that a 36-year-old man is going to wind up with this kind of terminal cancer. and he writes in the beginning of the book, i flipped through the cat scan images, the diagnosis obviously. a full lobe of the liver obliterated. cancer, widely disseminated. i was a neurosurgical resident entering my final year of training. over the last six years, i had examined scores of such scans on the off chance some procedure might benefit the patient. but this scan was different. it was my own. and even you, a trained doctor yourself, looked at him and asked, do you think there's any possibility it's something else? and he told you the truth. no. >> right.

i really remember that moment because we looked at the scan together. nobody delivered the news slowly. we were both doctors, and so we pulled up the cat scan and looked right at it, and we could see cancer throughout his organs and his spine. and one of the first things paul said was -- he said, i want you to remarry, and it was so beautiful and surprising and an immediate recognition of what we would be facing and the fact that we each wanted to help each other through all of it. >> he writes about how he talked with his doctors many times about -- because this is, you know, he was in the top of the top of the top of the heap, the best, most promising neurosurgical resident and then doctor they had. and so he wanted to continue working, and yet wasn't sure if this is what he should do with his time he had left because he also wanted to write. but you talk about how much he worked in the book, saying he worked tirelessly to secure my future, and i worked tirelessly to secure his present. and even to the point where you finished the book for him.

>> initially he went back to work, and then he became too ill to do brain surgery, and he started writing, which was his lifelong dream. and he died while he was working on the manuscript for when breath becomes air. and i wrote the ep log to the book. i don't consider myself a writer, but it felt like an urgent, important thing to describe how paul died and then to reflect on his life and what's been going on since. >> the way he died is oddly inspirational. i mean usually we say the way he lived. but the way he chose to die and handle his dying somehow makes you a little less afraid of it and somehow inspired by him. the way you put it when you wrote the ep i log was this. for much of his life, paul wondered about death and whether he could face it with integrity. in the end, the answer was yes. i was his wife and a witness. >> yeah. and so it's so lovely to me to

hear you describe your experience of reading the book, and you're right. at the end of his life, paul faced a really difficult choice about whether to prioritize quality of life or quantity of life. and people write to me or tweet at me, and it all feels like a eulogy or a condolence letter or this really personal connection with people over what paul's decisions and writing ment to them in their lives. >> well, i have been personally inspired, and i know my team here feels the same. i'm so grateful that you shared his story, that he did as well. what a parting gift for us all, especially little katie. god bless you. good luck to you. >> thank you so much. thank you. >> all the best. >> pretty amazing story. we're going to be right back.

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