hi, everyone. good morning. it's sunday, the 14th of august, 2016. we have breaking news overnight. mayhem in milwaukee. one of america's most dangerous cities goes up into flames after a deadly shooting following a traffic stop. [ gunfire ] >> hey, man! [ bleep ]! >> violent riots erupting after a standoff between police and an angry mob. five businesses burned to the ground as rioters opened fire at officers, throwing bricks and torching squad cars. >> good morning on this sunday morning. we like to start our weekends on

a lighter note, but unfortunately more disaster. it is hot and dangerous and chaotic in the city of milwaukee this morning. what a shame. what a great city. >> we also have severe weather we're following. also politics. we'll make sure we get to all that. >> the unrest unfolding after an unarmed 23-year-old with a long rap sheet was shot and killed while running away from a traffic stop with another suspect. >> 2-13, you're going to be taking rocks in a second. >> our squad car was hit once in the rear. >> police say both men ignored multiple orders to stop and drop the gun. that second suspect was caught and is currently behind bars. none of them have been identified. the wisconsin doj is now looking over the officers' body camera footage. >> violent rioters flooded the streets immediately after the shooting, causing complete cay use. they even set a gas station on fire, trapping the workers, the

employees inside of that gas station. rioters used social media to get as many people out on the streets as possible despite simultaneous pleas from the mayor and the victim's family. at least three people have been arrested in those riots so far. >> who are these rioters as they're taking to the streets? it seemed like it came out of nowhere. almost like a flash mob style as these people started coming out smashing bhuty parlors, gas station shops, grabbing as much stuff as they could. >> just to be clear, stealing is not a form of political protest. it's opportunism. it's chaotic. it's an attack against society. this is a very dynamic situation. we're not exactly sure what happened or what is happening even right now in the city of milwaukee. the fact that only three people have been arrested tells you something about the police response. >> and it reminds us a lot of what unfolded in ferguson. there was a lot of chaos on the street. >> baltimore too. >> people setting fire to local businesses that had nothing to do with any of this.

black power was being chanted, though t among these protesters, looters throughout the night. listen. >> black power! black power! black power! black power! >> from milwaukee mayor tom barron, he's a former u.s. congressman, took to the air waves last night with this message for the citizens of milwaukee. watch. >> if you're a mother who's watching this right now and your young son or daughter is not home and you think they're in this area, get them home right now. get them home right now. this is a serious situation, and this is a neighborhood that has unfortunately been affected by violence in the recent past. this is a situation where we are

asking every resident of this community to do everything they can to help us restore order. and that means, again -- and this is pointed directly at parents of young people because you can see from the video there are a lot of young people who are congregating here. if you love your son, if you love your daughter, text them, call them, pull them by the ears, and get them home. get them home right now. >> this was in a press conference last night. following the mayor, folks there and the media cameras watched as the city alderman spoke up. he was reading, it was something electronic, either a text or e-mail, from one of the protesters who was upset with that police-involved shooting. take a listen to what he has to say. some critics say it's justifying the behavior. >> what the mayor said and what alderman president hamilton said was correct, but i want you to understand the other side. i'm the alderman of the 15th

district, where i was born and raised. i was raised in sherman park. i love sherman park. i'm fighting tears right now. when the people start setting [ bleep ] on fire, that's because they feel like they can't do anything else. that's what that means. it comes from helplessness, and they put uses in office to help. we haven't been doing enough. everybody is playing "f'ing" politics. our people are living and dying on the streets. they don't give a [ bleep ] about politics. that was his statement. my response was, exactly. our community is in pain. and that's enough of what i'm going to say tonight. >> guy's an idiot. you know who's powerless?

the people trapped inside the gas station, the residents of the neighborhood, the normal people who live there as chaos spreads and police refuse to enforce the law, which is part of what's going on. you have a massive riot being filmed and posted on youtube. you don't see any cops. three people arrested total. someone has made a conscious decision to just let this go. >> if this kind of stuff broke out in my neighborhood, there's no way the cops would stand back and let it happen. there's no chance. >> he says i'm fighting back tears. i grew up in this neighborhood. i love sherman park area, milwaukee. it's bringing me to tears. yet, all of these businesses that probably he knows the people that run these businesses, their businesses are being looted, set on fire, and that's not what's bringing him to tears. >> so these business owners and employees are going to be waking up this morning without a job and neighbors in the area are going to feel terrorized even more this morning as they wake up and see, you know, businesses that were on their corner of their block charred to bits. squad cars even burned as well.

actually, there were reports that firefighters were not even responding to some of these businesses that were being torched because there was random gunfire, and they were worried about their own lives. >> look, there's plenty of time to have a conversation about police boundaries and the specifics of this shooting. apparently the guy had a gun. but we'll find out all the details. here's where there's no debate. to you can't let your cities burn. there's no reason to have a civilization, a society, a government, if you allow this stuff to happen. this is when the truly vulnerable, the decent people get hurt. i don't understand. >> rod wheeler has been following a number of these stories over the past few years for us. baltimore, ferguson, and now milwaukee. he joins us this morning to talk about it. rod, thanks for joining us this morning. what's your assessment of this suspect who, as we were talking about, appeared tofd eed to hav was running from police. >> that's right. well, it appears as though this

shooting -- and it's a justifiable shooting. the question becomes, what do we expect the police to do in these communities? we expect them to come into our communities and keep our communities safe and secure. but when the police do their jobs like this officer, it appears as though last night he did his job. you have a guy who's a known felon. this is a guy that's a known felon, refused to stop at the police order. he turns around with a handgun in his hand. police open fire and killed the guy. what else was the police to do? and then here's what happened. you can thank social media for these protests last night. someone goes on social media, they implore people in the community to come down to times square, wherever they're located, and start rioting. that's exactly what we see happen. so what do they do? they come down, burn up the bp. in baltimore, they burned down the cvs. these are businesses in their own communities. it makes absolutely no sense.

>> we saw the police stand back. apparently they were under orders from their superiors not to intervene or enforce the law. what's the cost of that, and why doesn't the police union, someone stand up and say, wait a second, our job is to prevent chaos from spreading. that's wrong. >> it's been happening for the longest -- and you've heard me say this on this show before. police officers are being told, they're being instructed by some of these city officials such as the mayor of baltimore when she told the police officers to stand down. the same thing with jay nixon in ferguson when he told the police officers to stand down. so what's the end result? real quickly, what's the end result here? the end result is burned down businesses in these communities, lack of jobs, lack of education, and the police department is on the brunt end of all of this when actually when you really look at each one of these situations, this aggression from the community should be towards the elected officials, not towards the police officers. >> well, what are police going to be able to do this morning?

obviously we saw what happened in baltimore where they were sort of melted away in a lot of respects. what are we going to see in milwaukee following this? >> they're going to continue to do their jobs the best they can. although, i got to tell you, police officers are on high alert all across the country, not just there in milwaukee, but everywhere across the country. if these people really wanted to riot, what they should have done is went over to chicago where 68 people were shot over the past week. i mean, that's where you really want to riot, not here in milwaukee, where a police officer was doing his job. but again, it's going to be very difficult for police going forward. we understand that. we realize that. we continue to do the best job we can. but again, the bottom line is this. how much does the community want the police to enforce the law in their communities? if they want the cops to do their jobs, then let the cops do their jobs. politicians have to get on the ball and support police better in these communities as well. >> yeah, and rod, milwaukee a very dangerous city too. just between friday night and saturday before any of this

unfolded, there were nine shootings and five murders recorded by local news and no suspects had been taken into custody on that. but we want to get your thoughts on another story that we're following. it's another fox news alert. a police officer was ambushed outside of atlanta. police are now looking for a suspected cop killer in georgia. officer tim smith shot and killed while responding to a call of a suspicious person that came in late last night. police say the suspect shot him as he got out of his squad car to confront him. officer smith was in his early 30s. so details on this are just fluid and just beginning to come in. how fearful are police officers right now while there is such a division between the men and women in blue and some community, rod? >> it's a realistic situation that we have. that's an excellent question. police officers are very fearful. that's why you see more police officers now riding two and three-man cars. not only in georgia last night but right there in new york where you're located, a police

officer was stabbed. thankfully, he survived. but he was stabbed on a call. we know that we're targets again. police officers still continue to do their jobs. again, pressure needs to be applied to some of these politicians that refuse to support police officers. going back to baltimore, and i know you hatd to keep talking about baltimore, but look at the prosecutor there. she threw the cops under the bus before the case was even finished being investigated. so again, we have to support our police officers better. >> yeah, you got to enforce the law. what's the point of having a government otherwise? rod wheeler, we'll be talking to you later. thanks. coming up, an american city on fire today. what will today be like and how will the press cover it? we'll discuss that aspect coming up. >> what happened tonight may not have been right. i'm not justifying that. but no one can deny the fact that there's problems. racial problems. at ally bank, no branches equals great rates.

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a fox news alert for you this morning. a troubling one. violence has erupted in milwaukee overnight after a police officer shot and killed an armed man who was fleeing a traffic stop. now milwaukee officials are calling the riots a warning cry. here's one of them. watch. >> this is their existence. this is their life. this is the life of their children. what happened tonight may have not been right. i'm not justifying that. but no one can deny the fact that there's problems, racial problems here in milwaukee, wisconsin, that have to be closely, not examined, but rectified. rectify this immediately. because if you don't, this vision of downtown, all of that, you one day away, you one day away. >> joining us now with his reaction is camille foster. this section of milwaukee, it's

like a square. a notoriously bad area. it's a perfect square. 20th and north up to 43rd and north. there's always crime. violent crime, break-ins, constantly. >> clearly the zietgeist of the moment is to talk about racial disparity as they relate to particular communities interacting with the police. it is very unfortunate, however, that a situation where i think people on both sides of the aisle -- there have been a lot of conservatives who advocated for criminal justice reform -- want to talk about substantive issues, and it is being eclipsed by all of the racial upset attached to these issues. we simply cannot have sane conversations about these issues without folks going into all kinds of rage about what they perceive to be racial bias. we have had so many conversations about stop and frisk and all of these other policies, and most of those

conversations are focused narrowly on whether or not the police are racist. i'm not sure how we figure that out. what we can talk about are first and fourth amendment issues and how we can talk about reform there. what we can talk about is whether or not we have the right laws on the book, whether or not we're prosecuting the right crimes. and we can talk about what it might actually look like to fix the crime problems that are plaguing cities like detroit, that are plaguing cities like baltimore and chicago. chicago, where we saw nearly 100 people shot in just under seven days. this isn't fallujah. this is chicago, illinois, united states of america. there are very serious issues there. there are also real solutions, and the solution to that problem isn't to eviscerate racism. quite frankly, i don't even think the solution to the problem is just, well, we have to fix poverty. what does that look like? how do we fix poverty? >> how about we start with maintaining order?

i'm struck by out thhow they gi on these neighborhoods. if this happened in my neighborhood, you would have an army of cops in five minutes and they wouldn't put up with that crap for a second. they allow this stuff to happen. >> i'm not certain what you do in some of these cases. you can definitely amp up the situation if you go in and start cracking every single skull. i think the police might be at a greater risk. >> well, we know the firefighters are not going in because of random gunfire. >> that's how dangerous the situation is. it is sufficiently dangerous that i am not -- there are plenty of cops who can come on and talk about police tactics and how they deal with the riots. i suspect they have reasonable, sound procedural things they're doing there to try and control the situation and bring down the energies without having a lot of casualties. i get that's the case. >> that's the law enforcement side. what about the political side? we saw the mayor got up and said, just watching the video, you know, there's a lot of young

people, urging parents to get their kids home. then you had the alderman, some are saying, almost justifying the behavior. what do residents there need to hear from political leaders right now? >> i certainly don't think the alderman's message was particularly helpful. i think it's reasonable to address the fact that this is complicated, that there are all sorts of historical issues there. there are contemporary issues, real and imagined, that are animating a lot of what we see here, the tensions that are exploding. i think right now the only thing we can call for that is reasonable is peace. we need a heck of a lot more chill than we have at the present moment. once we get there, then we can have sane conversations. the issues i mentioned, the first amendment, the fourth amendment issues, we're not talking about those, we are looking at pictures of burning buildings. no one wins. that is not help ful. >> that's true.

nobody wins. kmele, thanks for joining us. >> thank you. >> after a night of fire and violence, what's the mind set of officers on the ground? our law enforcement panel will tackle that next. plus, to politics. donald trump's latest target, "the new york times." more on that next. i jumped at the chance to take the dna test through ancestry and my results ended up being african, european and asian. it was great because it confirmed what i knew in my gut with a little surprise. ancestry helped give me a sense of identity.

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hi, everyone. a busy news day. other stories we're following this hour. at least three people are now dead and thousands have been rescued from the historic flooding in louisiana. many trapped in their cars. rainfall records were broken with some areas getting two months' worth of rain in just one day. and the search is intensifying for this man, who police say shot and killed the leader of a new york city mosque in broad daylight.

police say the 55-year-old imam and his 64-year-old associate were fatally shot in the back of the head outside their mosque. police say no motive has been determined, but some are calling it a hate crime against muslims and blaming donald trump's influence. clayton, over to you. >> thanks, anna. for more on our fox news alert, mayhem in milwaukee as violence erupts after a man is shot and killed by a police officer. that man had a record, was armed, and led police on a chase. so what should police in milwaukee be focusing on? let's bring in our panel. nice to see both of you this morning. let's start with you. the idea that these people are somehow trapped right now, we were talking about this just a few moments ago. at this gas station or in these shops being looted and set on fire. people being trapped in these gas stations, waiting for police to arrive. what should the police response

be? should they storm down the streets in tanks, armored vehicles, or should they back off? >> back off, i think not. >> we saw that in some other events. saw that in ferguson. >> this is the precedence that's been set in not just this city but every other city. the police now have to go into a very dangerous situation and rescue these people from whatever situation it is. the gas station, the little grocery store. but they have to go in and get the innocent people out. it's just a climate right now that is just unexplainable in so many communities. you just sit back and watch the police get batted and batted and batted. we had a police officer stabbed in new york. you have a police officer killed in georgia. and this is just the climate that's out there right now. the police -- it's open season on police. there's no other way to describe it. >> and we don't know the details of this police-involved shooting yet. we know social media erupted. people took to the streets in protest.

i don't even know if they knew what they were protesting. this guy was armed. he was running from police. we don't know the racial makeup of the police officer. that hasn't been released. this is just a reaction by the community. >> and this is part of the problem, right. we have sort of a national tempo. the right thing to do is when there's a situation involving a police officer, we riot, we want to burn down our cities, we want to threaten the lives of citizens and police officers. and somehow we overlook that. we tend to focus on all of the wrong things. are you wearing the right set of white gloves, are they treating rioters with some deference. we seem to focus on the wrong things. we should be focusing on the issues, bringing down that national tempo to a reasonable level where we can have a discussion. >> this discussion joe is talking about, how do we set this tone? this particular neighborhood of milwaukee, you drive through there, black police officers. you know, you're not seeing

maybe the same racial disparity you saw in ferguson with all these white police officers in managing ferguson. how do you have this national dialogue, or how do you have this city dialogue in a community? >> i don't think they are actually looking at what color the cop is. they're looking at the uniform right now. the uniform is the target right now. the tempo that joe's talking about has been set for a long time now. it's just that anybody can use any excuse to go out there and riot. we saw it in baltimore. they take it to the next level. police officers do their job. we go out there every single day. we go out there to protect the public. we go out there and do our jobs. but you want to know something, it's probably the most thankless job that's out there right now because nobody is looking at the other side of it. nobody sees what cops really go through. they don't know the decisions -- what leads to a decision to take somebody's life. they don't understand the long-term ramifications of somebody taking somebody else's

life. they think they just go out there and randomly kill somebody because of their color. that is so absurd. we're all sick of it. >> and maybe we see, joe, police officers being stoic. they're not talking. we know they're the calm. maybe they should be talking about it, exactly what joe is talking about. it is difficult. we're out here at 2:00 in the morning protecting this community. here's a guy on the street running away from us. he's got a stolen weapon, and we're chasing him down. you know how difficult that is? i have a family at home. should police be more open and transparent in talking about the things they go through? >> and they should be, but more than that, their police leadership and political leadership should be speaking on behalf of the police. police officers are not at liberty often to just talk about issues in public. there are all kinds of regulations that govern that. however, you know, we should be talking about when a police officer's actions appear to be justified or an investigation is incomplete. we should be talking about not passing judgment, about having an adult conversation, bringing

adult people in the room and talking through these problems. then if there are problems that need to be corrected, correct them. >> what about these body cameras? this is an area that has body cameras on it. what will that tell us, if anything? >> well, body cameras, we've had this discussion for many, many years. body cameras are good. if they're approached in the right way. you can't have body cameras on for certain crimes, naturally. i always said, well, if it's showing something else, make sure it gets prosecuted on the other side as well. so body cameras aren't the issue right now. the issue is how the public perceives the police department. just one incident will go nationwide and carry that temperament over to the other side of the country, and they'll use it over there in california or some place else. oh, a young black man was killed. look at the circumstances behind these shootings, all right. go back to the root of what's going on. look at the crime issues within

the communities. get back to basic policing. get back to what mayor giuliani did over here in new york. it needs to be done. i think you'll get the support of the real community once that happens. >> unfortunately, we got to end it there. thanks so much. we appreciate it. coming up, donald trump's latest target, "the new york times." paper says his campaign is sputtering and trump is ready to take on the media. a live report from the campaign trail is next. >> maybe what we'll do, maybe we'll start thinking about taking their press credentials away from them. when they write dishonest stories, we should be a little bit tough, don't we agree?

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hi, everyone. breaking news overnight. violence erupting in milwaukee, wisconsin. rioters taking to the street to burn businesses after a man with an illegal gun was killed after he ran from police. [ gunfire ] >> hey, man! [ bleep ]! >> one cop is hurt, one armed suspect is dead, and five businesses burned to the ground as rioters opened fire at officers, throwing bricks and torching squad cars. >> 2-13, you're going to be taking rocks in a second here. get behind the barricade at least. >> 100 people out there. >> our squad car was hit once in the rear. >> cover your six. secure your squad. >> the chaos break out after a

23-year-old with a long gun and a long rap sheet was shot and killed while running from a traffic stop with another suspect. police say both men ignored multiple orders to stop and drop the gun. >> that second suspect was arrested. at least three people have been arrested in those riots so far. we'll have more on this developing story throughout the morning. >> all morning long. but we need to switch gears and get to this now. donald trump clashing with "the new york times" over the paper's claims his election campaign is, quote, sputtering. >> trump now calling "the times" a newspaper of fiction. garrett joins us live from washington, d.c., with more on the latest "new york times" story on his campaign. good morning, garrett. >> good morning. to be putting it mildly to say donald trump is not a fan of "the new york times" after it ran this story titled "inside the failing mission to tame trump's tongue." citing anonymous sources, the paper describes trump as exhausted, frustrated, and still struggling to grasp the finer

details it of the political process. last night at a rally, trump responded to that report, saying the paper is going to hell. >> we have a newspaper that's failing badly. it's losing a lot of money. it's going to be out of business very soon. "the new york times." i think maybe what we'll do, maybe we'll start thinking about taking their press credentials away from them. when they write dishonest stories, we should be a little bit tough. don't we agree? >> the fact that trump was campaigning in connecticut at all is significant. the state hasn't gone for a republican president since 1988, but trump says he's making a big move to win that state. they're also focusing on several key swing states like florida, where "the hill" newspaper reports trump is quickly working to build his presence. the campaign is also responding to hillary clinton's friday release of her 2015 tax returns, saying the american people are

more interested in her e-mails. and yesterday in an interview on wabc radio, vice presidential candidate mike pence said he's currently preparing his tax returns for release sometime soon. he described them as a quick read. back to y'all. >> thanks, garrett. i think the times coverage of trump in this campaign has been appalling. they're cheerleading for hillary every day. i thought that piece, the one we're talking about this morning, seemed pretty accurate to me. it was about people around donald trump sitting down with him and saying, look, you need to focus, you need to pick the right fights. from my understanding, that's true. >> there have been republicans who have said the same thing about his campaign in some respects, that he's having a hard time making the switch from the primary election to the general election and how the ground game, for one, kneads to change. >> and second guessing the people he said, yes, we'll make this switch, we'll switch things up again, getting frustrated he's not trusting his own

instini instincts at the moment. >> that's exactly right. this is the problem with taking sides in a presidential race if you're a journalist. you devalue your authority. my thought "the times" piece was pretty good actually. but other pieces have been so bad that nobody believes the paper anymore. >> what do you think? what do you think about him taking away the press credentials of "the new york times"? >> i don't know. most of it is just posturing. i think that paper has a huge problem. they really -- and i've read it all my life. a million friends there. i think their coverage of this has been terrible. he's within bounds to point that out. >> all right. we'll be following this all morning too. but we are needing to get to your news headlines. another terrifying attack to tell you about. a man stabbing passengers with a knife before setting fire to a train. this all happened in switzerland. six people, including a child, now in the hospital with wounds and also burns.

the 27-year-old suspect also hurt in the fire. police are trying to piece together the motive, although they believe it was not terror related. this attack comes less than a month after an afghan refugee attacked four tourists on a german train. and pure chaos. someone opens fire. the social media video capturing panicked shoppers at the north carolina mall running for their lives. people reported seeing two men fighting in the food court. that's when the gunshots started. thankfully, no one was shot, but several people were hurt rushing to leave the mall. personally feeling the wrath of that e-mail hack. she's been getting e-mails and calls. hackers posted personal contact information for 200 members of the democratic congressional campaign committee. pelosi warning her colleagues, quote, please be careful not to

allow your children or family members to answer your phone or read incoming text messages. what a mess. and here's the happy story. the medal count is going up. the united states pulling further ahead at the rio olympics thanks to swimmers. michael phelps wrapping up his 23rd career gold medal, leading his team to victory in the 400-meter medley relay. taking one last stand on top of the medalist podium, giving an emotional and fitting farewell to the olympic games. team usa remains on top with 60 total medals, 24 gold, 18 silver, and 18 bronze. china is in second with 41 medals, 13 of those are gold. it's been fun to watch michael phelps and see his little son there. >> is china in first place? >> no, we're on top. >> so beating china. just want to say that again. sorry. >> usa. another big story we're following this morning, there are a ton of them, the deadly

and historic floods in louisiana. at least three people have died there. thousands more had to be rescued across the state. >> i'm drowning. >> we're coming. i'm going to break this window. >> we're breaking the window. >> wow. >> yeah, watch this. a woman and her dog were pulled out of her sinking car. rick is tracking the storms. we'll check in with him. and a photographer who's been covering the devastation will be joining us to talk about what he's seeing on the ground as well. don't go anywhere. use dulcolax tablets for gentle overnight relief suppositories for relief in minutes and stool softeners for comfortable relief of hard stools. dulcolax, designed for dependable relief

major disaster in louisiana this morning where torrential rains have killed three people. >> thousands more being rescued from those historic floods, some having to be air lifted from their homes, which were left under water. look at this. >> this is my living room, guys. this is the kitchen. living room. >> man, it is bad even by louisiana standards. rick joins us now.

good morning. >> yeah, it's bad. it's going to remain bad for a while. all that waterfalling across a pretty large area doesn't go anywhere quickly. you get flash flooding. sometimes it rises quickly and goes down quickly. this is not going to be one of those cases. it's going to take a good amount of time for this water to recede. fortunately the drainage of that is in the mississippi across the gulf. it'll get out of here maybe not in a matter of weeks, but we probably have a week or so to go. we have one other little system. notice this across florida. that might eventually be a player for us say tuesday, wednesday back across the gulf. this is the disturbance that brought all the rain. some of it starting to get pull pulled across the mississippi and ohio valley. a different system is going to start to take charge of all this moisture and pull it north. that means flooding moving into the north, but it also means at least in the short term a little less rain falling across louisiana. maybe two to three inches more, not the 30 inches we've seen. by the time this system gets over here tuesday to wednesday, then i think we'll be talking about the potential for more

heavy rain again. that could really exacerbate this. we have seen over 30 inches of rain. the highest total i've seen is actually over 31 inches of rain here. we're going to see a lot of areas, or we have seen a lot of areas well over 20 inches. this is additional rain. then we're going to watch this additional rain here that's going to move alit a little bit towards the ohio river valley. maybe 8 to 10 inches. that's going to cause a lot of flooding. anywhere east of this system, that's where the hot, soupy air is. we felt it yesterday across the eastern seaboard. it was one of the most unconfideu uncomfortable days we've seen here. we have another one of those day. so the heat danger and the flooding causing so many problems. >> all right. thanks. >> you bet. joining us now on the phone is nola.com senior staff photographer ted jackson. ted, thank you for being with us. what is it that you're seeing on the ground, and how does it compare to other natural disasters and flooding in the past? >> well, i see a lot of fear in

people's eyes when i photographed them yesterday and the day before. people just don't know what to expect. when a storm like this approaches, people down here get a real punch in the gut and go through a lot of mental gymnastics. you have to decide what to do and what to expect. first thing that a lot of people do is go into a sense of denial. i think that's what catches a lot of people off zbaguard. >> did people expect this storm? was there warning? >> yeah, there was a good bit of warning. a few days of seeing the weather patterns shaping up. the meteorologists were giving us a lot of predictions. but you know, you think that could happen, but maybe it'll move out and maybe it'll move to a different direction. but i think everybody kind of got a sense of something coming, didn't know where it was going to hit, if it was going to be in

new orleans or on the north shore or further west. it turned out to be north shore and a little bit to the west. >> what are you hearing from the people? obviously you live there. you know the people very well. what is their mood like? are they like, oh, here we go, another storm, or this is our resolve? we're new orleans strong. >> it is, you know. we're resilient, been through a lot in the last 11 years, but there comes a time when, you know, resiliency just kind of takes a backseat and people do break at times like this. you know, it's important for people to know that there's help coming or that there's a future tomorrow or that people care. it's really important for people to hear from friends and relatives. that's what i'm seeing a lot of. >> especially in light of some people even being missing. we reported yesterday there had been a thousand rescues and this morning thousands of rescues.

how thankful are the residents there that search and rescue crews are coming to help them? >> if you've ever been rescued, you know. it's a situation where, you know, people, they're desperate, and especially when they have loved ones or pets or children or relatives, elderly parents. my son is a rescue flight mechanic with the coast guard, and we have a lot of conversations about this kind of thing. but, you know, people -- people respect their rescuers and the guys on the ground have been doing a great job here. that's just not the officials. you have the sheriff's department, the national guard, but you also have what we like to call down here the cajun navy, the people who just kind of show up with boats. >> come out to help. ted, we appreciate you joining us this morning. >> pictures are great, ted.

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[ bleep ]. >> [ bleep ]. >> good morning, everyone. it's a fox news alert. if you're just waking up with us, riots erupting in milwaukee as hundreds loot local businesses and set buildings on fire. this after an armed man refused to drop his weapon was shot and killed by police. here to weigh in is dr. keith ablo. good morning and thanks for being with us. >> good morning. thank you. >> when you're waking up and you're seeing this video going, oh, no, this is happening to

another one of america's great cities, what's your initial reaction? >> well, my initial reaction is that the seeds of this kind of violent discontent have been shown by the underlying psychology of our american president who has in his heart, i believe, a feeling that america in flames is our due deserts for the fact that we have been in his mind unjust. so the pictures of the american gymnasts, the wondrously diverse team, that's not enough for these folks. it's not enough that barack obama is in the corner office. the president and his ex-attorney general made people think that america was against them because deep in their hearts they believe that america has always been against the two of them. literally i think we're seeing playing out the underlying psychology of barack obama's rage. that's what this is. there can be no other explanation psychologically. >> well, i mean, you know, i

don't know the details of this police shooting and i have no idea what's really in the president's heart and i wouldn't personally hold him responsible for this, but i will say a lot of us suspect -- >> i would. >> -- race relations to get better under an obama presidency and that's the opposite fact. why? >> well, because, here's the thing, the democrats, i believe, have created these situations in which people have too few jobs, have much less of a sense of autonomy than they should. what are they burning? they're burning their community. that's the underlying data here. yes, those communities in which they have not been allowed to take responsibility for themselves, in which they have been told we have to dispense untold entitlements because you can't take care of yourselves. you know what, that makes people really mad at flash point, and then when the president says things like, this cambridge police officer was all wrong back at the beginning of his administration, it gives people license. they're mad because they're not

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violence erupted after a cop killed a 23-year-old man. a suspect and another man ran from them during a traffic stop. they ignored orders to drop the gun and the shooting took place. >> going to be taking rocks in a second here. get behind the barricade at least. 100 people out here. >> our squad car was hit once in the rear. >> cover your six. secure your squad car. >> they were originally stopped for suspicious activity. the cop was wearing a body camera and it was recorded in real time. now wisconsin doj is looking at that video. >> after that people used facebook to get people on the street. they completed complete mayhem. the city even setting a gas station on fire and locking workers inside. at least three people have been arrested. >> yes. >> i had not heard that they had locked employees inside. i heard that they were inside and they were scared to come out. >> can you imagine being one of

those employees sitting in a gas station that's on fire waiting for the tanks to explode and nobody is rescuing you. i don't want to point fingers because we don't know what happened, but three people arrested in a massive riot where many buildings are burned? are you kidding? >> unbelievable. >> it sounds to me like political forces encouraged the police to stand back and watch a lot of this happen just as we saw in ferguson, just as we saw in baltimore. this is the beginning of a real outbreak of chaos. if the police can't get stuff like this under control -- >> we absolutely know that the first responders had been held back. some of the firefighters were told to stay away and out of that yar because of random gunfire for fear of their lives. the cars are on fire but we're not going to put them out because there's random gunfire in the area. the people not wanting to come out fearing for their lives, not because they were locked. >> firefighters were ordered not to respond because of the random

gunfire. >> imagine looking at this footage in the streets and people walking through the streets yelling black power. listen. >> black power. black power. black power. black power. black power. black power. >> let's put this in context. this is the north side of milwaukee. by the way, this is the ninth shooting in the past two days. five dead in just this one section of milwaukee. >> right. >> none of those other shootings turned into riot, however, this one did because police were involved. milwaukee mayor tom bartlett has been the mayor for 12 years. he was a congressman before that, ran for governor against scott walker. he had this to say to frightened citizens of milwaukee last night. listen. >> if you're a mother who is watching this right now and your young son or daughter is not home and you think they're in this area, get them home right now. get them home right now.

this is a serious situation and this is a neighborhood that has unfortunately been affected by violence in the recent past. this is a situation where we are asking every resident of this community to do everything they can to help us restore order. and that means, again, and this is pointed directly at parents of young people because you can see from the video there are a lot of young people who are congregating here. if you love your son, if you love your daughter, text them, call them, pull them by the ears and get them home. get them home right now. >> message of the mayor. here's the message from alderman named khalif rainy from district 7. very different message. >> this entire community has sat back and witnessed how milwaukee, wisconsin has become the worst place to live for african-americans in the entire

country. now this is a warning cry. where we do we go from here? where do we go as a committee from here? do we continue with the inequity, the injustice, the unemployment, the under education that creates these byproducts that we see this evening? do we continue that? something has to be done here in milwaukee, wisconsin, to address these issues. the black people of milwaukee are tired. they tired of living under this oppression. >> and he's saying it's an act of desperation and that's the reason for this lawlessness is a bad economy there. i don't know how it helps burning businesses, setting them on fire, bp gas station, jet beauty supply store, o'reilly auto store, how does that help neighbors in that community? >> he went on to threaten violence to say, we're one day

away from this happening again. so when you have an elected official, responsible figure in the neighborhood, standing up and threatening more violence unless nonspecific demands are met, that's a scary situation. >> right. what is he demanding? milwaukee's economy is expanding. companies are hiring. >> so rod wheeler is joining us now. he's a long-time guest on the show, fox news contributor. rod, when you have a politician stand up and threaten -- in effect threaten violence unless certain demands are met, does that calm the situation or does it make it worse? >> oh, it makes it ten times worse because you say to yourself, what is it that they want? i mean, you just heard clayton say that the economy in milwaukee is expanding. things are getting better in milwaukee. now that's not to say that we're naive to the fact that they have some issues there. they may have some racial issues in milwaukee, but my question, guys, is this. why is it that the police have to be on the brunt end of all of this. if you listen to what that

alderman had to say, it had to do with politics and derelict elected officials. not police officers. you have a police officer out in uniform doing his job, he tries to get a bad guy off the street, a guy that shouldn't be on the street, this is a felon, right, and he shoots this guy because this felon refused to drop the gun. so as a result they want to burn down the city and tear up the city? i just don't see the connection there. >> rod, the wisconsin d.o.j. division of criminal investigations has been called in to lead the investigation and they are reportedly looking through body camera video that the 24-year-old officer who has six years of service with the force was wearing. what role do you think the body camera footage will play in all of this as the story unfolds? >> well, i think the body camera footage is going to be good, and i think it's important for the viewers to understand the body camera footage is only part of the investigation, it's not the entire investigation. so often, anna, people will look

at that video and say, oh, we know what happened. this is what happened. but there's a lot that goes on that's not always on the video. if people would just look and allow the investigators to do their job, they're going to do a good job. see exactly what happened and then like i said, use the video as part of the investigation, not the totality of the investigation. >> rod wheeler joining us this morning with an update from milwaukee. we appreciate it, rod. thanks so much. >> thank you guys. >> it is a busy news morning. we're also following another fox news alert this morning. a police officer ambushed just outside of atlanta, georgia. police are now looking for the mantha shot and killed this man, officer tim smith. he was responding to a call of a suspicious person last night. smith was shot as he got out of his squad car to confront the suspect in the city of eastman. officer smith was in his early 30s. three people are dead and thousands, thousands have been rescued from historic flooding in louisiana. many trapped inside their cars.

>> i'm drowning. i'm drowning. >> we're coming. i'm going to break this window. >> we're breaking the window. >> rainfall records were broken with some areas getting two months' worth of rain in just a single day. the search is intensifying for this man who police say shot and killed the leader of a new york city mosque in broad daylight. police say 55-year-old imam and his 64-year-old associate were fatally shot in the head -- in the back of the head outside of their mosque. no motive has been determined, but some are calling it a hate crime against muslims and blaming donald trump's influence. and pressure building in the white house this morning to allow the fbi to release the details of hillary clinton's interview with the feds to congress, but as director james comey and the fbi are pressing to send at least some of the information, others in government are stepping in to question what to release and when. most notably, the state department who isn't saying the

material can't be released but are demanding a chance to review it all first. headlines. >> yes, they are. whoa. "the new york times" says the trump campaign is sputtering. trump's doubled back in part of his response. here's what he said. >> the newspaper's going to hell. maybe we'll start thinking about taking their press credentials away from them. >> governor mike huckabee was named in that times article. he'll take us inside the trump campaign next. i was diagnosed with endometrial cancer.

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to drop his weapon shot and killed a man. >> joining us is 2016 presidential candidate, mike huckabee. governor, good to see you this morning. your reaction to the violence overnight in these communities. >> well, you know, the tragedy of this is that the only thing that makes us a civilize the society is that we all abide by the law, a social contract in which we deal with things that are wrong. that's why we have police. they enforce that law. when we show disrespect to the police, we show a disrespect for our fellow citizens. what on earth are people thinking when they somehow believe that their community is going to be better if you burn half of it down? what makes people think that it's going to work out if you take the law into your own hands and go into mob action like we saw in milwaukee without even knowing what -- what was going on? and that i think ought to frighten a lot of americans.

>> so last night khalif rainey basically got up unless a series of very nonspecific demands were met. he's a democrat of course. i wonder if you'll see any national leaders in his party denounce him from encouraging or threatening further violence. >> i'd love to hear hillary clinton's take on this. wouldn't it be nice if she came out and had the courage to say that we need to have respect for the police officers who enforce these laws, respect for the firemen who are supposed to go into a fire where people are shooting at them. this is absurd. that city councilman should resign his seat. i mean, if anything, that -- perhaps be arrested for inciting violence. what a recklessly irresponsible kind of comment from a public official who took an oath to uphold the law and to respect it and to make law for his community, and now he's -- he's inciting the kind of violence that we saw in milwaukee.

it's absolutely disgusting and a degenerate form of behavior. >> we've seen it in ferguson, in baltimore, milwaukee. are you concerned when folks are seeing these images that there will be copy cat protests or mob violence, as you call it, around the country? is that a concern? >> well, of course it is, because some people see this and they say, it gets us publicity. it's a way to express our grievances. the way to express your grievances is to change the political leadership in your community. i mean, people -- do we not understand that the reason that some of these conditions in these cities is what it is is because the political leadership has failed to create a sense of order, where education is actually empowering people, where jobs are being created because there's an economic climate where people can come in and build an industry? and when political leadership collapses and there is no leadership and people are frustrated because there are no jobs, there's no safety, there's no security, the schools don't

work, even public transportation doesn't work, you know, their frustration spills into the streets. why don't people understand, overthrow that ineffective, inept political leadership and bring some people in who are competent enough to help run their city? >> governor, i want to talk about some politics now and let's talk about this "new york times" piece that names you and it takes a pretty grim picture of the trump campaign right now a few short months away from the election day. talks about his campaign sputtering. among the thing it suggests is that trump gets advice from his inner circle, half listens to it, they kind of have to pull him back, that he has delusions of grandeur like he's going to win oregon, has to be pulled back. what do you say? they cite some unnamed sources in this piece. is this piece accurate? you're named in the piece as well. >> i was with donald trump on the campaign trail several days this past week, and if it -- if it wasn't so tragic and really

indicative of the death of any semblance of journalism, it would be funny because this article, and i love the fact that it was based on unnamed sources. why don't you name the sources? if it is a truthful story, stand up and have the guts to tell us who you are, unnamed sources. and if you don't, then shut the heck up. let me just tell you, this story is absolute fabrication. it is not true, and i say that from firsthand experience of being at donald trump's side over a several day period. let me tell you a couple of things. number one, people half his age can't keep up with him. this man is a machine. from early morning until way past midnight he is nonstop speaking, doing interviews, talking to his staff, and when i read that article i said, who are they talking about? not the guy i've been with the last few days, that's for sure.

>> so you're someone that gave me pause. the other day trump said, if i heard him correctly, if i don't win pennsylvania we'll know it's because of voter fraud. i believe voter fraud exists. trump is ten points down. republicans have not won in a generation. is that really the only reason he would lose pennsylvania? >> no. you know, look, i think candidates sometimes, you know, in an interview, they say things that they, you know, may believe at the time, they may believe all the time, but in moments of candor we ought to be grateful that he's actually speaking, that he's talking to the press, that he's even visiting with people who are not necessarily his pals in the press, his friends. when is hillary clinton going to sit down and go with an unguarded interview, and when she does, then she says things like she short circuited or that she talked past chris wallace in a rare moment where she ever has an interview at all. look, i've been a candidate over 13 times in the course of my

life. i'm telling you, there are times that people will ask you a question, you give a very honest answer, you think you're going to be rewarded for the candor and the honesty and instead you are punished for it. you know what you do? you want to say the heck with you. i'll never talk to the press again. >> governor, we've got to go. with donald trump saying he's going to take away the credentials of "the new york times." is that a good idea? >> why did "the new york times" have any credentials at all? where do they get credentials? for what? if they make up stories out of thin air with sources they won't name, why -- i'm just being honest. why should they even have credentials? for what? >> governor mike huckabee joining us live. great to see you. >> thanks, gov more. >> thanks a bunch. coming up next, the hack of nearly 200 house officers includes nancy pelosi.

what happened when people got ahold of her number. plus, we continue to monitor the deadly flooding in louisiana. at least three people died and thousands more rescued. the state police will join us live on their life saving mission. we always were told we were german. we were in a german dance group. i wore lederhosen. so i just started poking around on ancestry. then, i decided to have my dna tested through ancestry dna. it turns out i'm scottish. so, i traded in my lederhosen for a kilt.

thanks for being with us today. quick headlines. nancy pelosi personally feeling the wrath of that house democrats. she's getting disturbing rude telephone calls and is changing her phone number. she's urging other democrats to do the same thing. hackers posted telephone numbers for 200 house members. an elevator broke down at the washington monument. all three made it out safely but it is unclear how long they were

stuck inside. tucker? >> thanks, anna. back to a fox news alert this morning. riots broke out in milwaukee overnight. bad one. wasn't enough information to warrant any of this. are warrants ever warranted? joining us is the national director for black empowerment. ashlei, great to see you this morning. so how long, this is a rhetorical question, how long before republicans get the blame for this riot in a city that's been under dome krat particular rule for my entire lifetime? >> republicans have to make the case that cities like milwaukee and tell folks straight up, look, you have cities like this where there's no republicans to blame. you have too few jobs, you have too many failed schools. i think the councilman said that in his wrongly directed criticism of the police. republicans have the answers in this particular equation.

parents need their children. you say, government, take care of my health care, government, make the choice for my kids, they fail you every time. we want to give people the power again to determine their own futures and their own destinies. that's how we'll win this election and that's how people in milwaukee will find their way out of this rutt. >> so i look at these pictures and the first thought goes to the normal people, nice people trapped in the neighborhoods and i bet there are a ton of them and no one's coming to their aid. you have a massive riot break out in one of america's most historic big cities and three people are arrested as buildings are burned and places are looted. it's almost like or it seems very much like the police have been told to stand back and kind of let it happen. that seems like a grave disservice to the people who live in that neighborhood. >> we've seen too many times in america, you would hope that we have learned from ferguson until now. i think ferguson taught everyone, even the people that live in ferguson now can admit, that it was too quick to judge.

it was too quick to say that what the facts were day one were not clearly the facts day 15, day 20. in this particular situation i think we all need to sit back and say, look, the facts aren't there yet. be glad there is a police body camera to give some insight into what happened, not all the insight. be especially glad that you have -- you should have people in the community who should be deterring violence. you don't really see that. in other cities that have had this violence, black leadership has stood up and said, look, we need to take a break, relax, let's understand what the facts are before we jump to conclusions. it's very unfortunate that you're not seeing that and you're seeing rhetoric on the other side coming from an elected official. you have to take responsibility and you can't hype up problems you're not willing to offer solutions because that's why you're there. >> so urban policy has been completely dominated by the left for 50 years and these are the fruits of it. it hasn't worked. it doesn't work. the fruits are poverty, chaos,

crime, sadness and yet i saw a poll two days ago that said 99% of african-americans are voting democrat in the election this fall. the number will be probably 98 or over? what is that? why can't republicans take the facts on the ground that their policies haven't worked and turn that int for their own party? >> you know, that's a great challenge that we have every four years, not in particular donald trump. it was the same problem we had with mitt romney and john mccain. we lose the battle because we get judged on just our words, but if we can allow the scales of justice to judge democrats on their deeds, we'll win every time. we'll get better numbers every time. so we're turning the corner this election and we're saying, democrats, look, we're not going to let you take the black vote for granted and we're going to force you to be judged on what you've done in the past, your deeds in the past. when you look at education we look at a failed criminal system which was a gift of the clinton

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hi, everyone. we are back with a fox news alert. an american city up in flames. violent rioters causing chaos in milwaukee after a deadly police shooting. angry mobs setting squad cars on fire and burning businesses to the ground and attacking police. the mayor is urging parents to get their kids home and off the street. some of the rioters setting a gas station on fire and trapping people inside all while chanting. >> they're starting to approach. >> affirmative. form a line. form a line. start making arrests. >> all of this happening after a

police officer shot and killed a 23-year-old running from a traffic stop with another suspect. both refused to stop. one was carrying an illegal gun. a lot of details we don't know. the officer who fired was apparently wearing a body camera. >> that officer on administrative leave. no one who has been involved has been identified. the wisconsin doj is now looking at the body camera footage to figure out exactly what happened. we have a newspaper that's failing badly, it's losing a lot of money, it's going to be out of business very soon, "the new york times." i think maybe what we'll do, maybe what we ought to start thinking about is taking their press credentials away from them. when they write dishonest stories, we should be a little bit tough, don't we agree? >> donald trump blasting "the new york times" after it published an article hitting at a major discord within his party. is this just another example of

media bias or is there something to this? justin miller is a senior communications advisor for the trump campaign and he joins us now. appreciate you being on the program. thank you. >> good morning. thank you for having me. jason miller. very close but jason miller. >> thank you, jason. welcome back. we should have had that right since you've been on before. and anyway, the trump campaign according to the piece in "the new york times" is sputtering. he only half heartedly listens to his advisors and he only has a few sources. is there any truth? >> exactly. this is the trick that the media plays. this is very much an example of the liberal dishonest media. mr. trump is focused. he knows what he's doing in his campaign. he's laying out a positive economic decision. tomorrow in youngstown, ohio, he'll lay out his plan to defeat radical islamic militants. governor pence will be there

with him. >> so when you're hearing complaints this morning from republicans about the speech mr. trump is giving in connecticut, in bridgeport, connecticut. the line is not going to win connecticut. lots of states he could win, that's not one of them. it's been a generation since the republicans have won. there are no statewide republicans in connecticut, so why connecticut? is that a fair criticism? >> connecticut is a place where we think there's a real pickup opportunity. that's the great thing about mr. trump's candidacy. there are a number of states that typical republicans don't win. we look at pennsylvania, michigan, connecticut. these are places where mr. trump has the ability to expand the map. not only is polling showing that we're doing well in ohio and florida, key battle grounds. we think we can expand the map and put democrats on the offensive. >> want to play some sound, mr. trump talking about pennsylvania, and the only way he thinks he'll lose pennsylvania -- meanwhile, he's down by double digit numbers there at the moment. take a listen. >> the only way they can beat us, in my opinion, and i mean

this 100%, if in certain sections of the state they cheat. go around and look and watch other polling places and make sure that it's 100% fine. >> so the only way he'll lose pennsylvania is if there's cheating? is that accurate? >> going into election day we think we're going to be in a spot with a very strong position in pennsylvania. we think we'll win the state. we think we'll be leading going into election day. one of the things we believe very much is we want open, honest and fair elections. we want to make sure that happens in all states, pennsylvania being a key, important state. we'll be watching very closely there and making sure that we're turning out our people to vote. >> jason, to go back to that "new york times" piece because it is getting a lot of attention especially with donald trump yesterday saying in some respects that he may consider even removing the press credentials for the "new york times" calling it a failing newspaper, inside that piece it talks about him acting erratic and sullen when he's not in

front of these big crowds. is there any truth to that? >> absolutely not. this is silly. this is a liberal media hatchett job. zero basis in truth. we're united with our candidate. mr. trump is focused and he knows exactly what he needs to do. when you see these types of quotes from the anonymous, blind, behind the scene sources who don't want to come out and put their name on it, you have to really question the authenticity of it. it couldn't be further from the truth. >> i think the times coverage of the campaign has been awful, i said that many times. i do though wonder do you win votes when you attack "the new york times" more than you would by attacking hillary? >> i'm glad you bring that up. we have to call out the dishonest media when we see this hat happen. if we don't call it out, the reader won't know that they're getting complete falsehood. >> you talked about voter fraud. on your website you're inviting people to sign up and to oversee

voting stations and take part in this process. what are you hoping the people will do? >> having poll watchers in campaigns is standard practice for many folks watching this morning. they've participated and volunteered with campaigns. poll watchers and their regulations that are laid out in a state-by-state level. they're going in early making sure voting machines are working. people that are eligible show up and vote in a seamless, smooth fashion. our philosophy is we want open, honest, fair elections. now if you want to take a different approach, i think the attitudes that we've seen from the clinton camp is evident by the missing and deleted e-mails, we see the paper play schemes, we see the corruptions we've seen this past week. we've seen a much different attitude. >> hillary clinton releasing her taxes on friday calling for the trump campaign to release their taxes as well. will donald trump release his taxes any time soon? >> as soon as the audit is completed those will be released. >> do you have a time line on that? >> don't have a time line on that, but when the process has

run its course those will be released. >> jason miller, senior communications advise ofr for donald trump's campaign. thank you. >> thank you so much for having me on. 39 minutes after the hour. some other stories we're following that are making headlines. fox news alert, a woman dead after a man stabbed six passengers with a knife before setting a train on fire in switzerland. seven people including a 6-year-old child suffering wounds and burns. four including the suspect remain in critical condition. authorities say they have been unable to interrogate the 27-year-old suspect because of a medical condition. so far there are no indications it was terror. and the murder trial of an illegal immigrant convicted -- and a convicted felon who was accused of killing kate steinly has been delayed until after the election. she was murdered while walking along one of san francisco's piers. her death leading to the creation of kate's law to imprison convicted illegal immigrants, but it has stalled

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>> i think they happened to be going by that it was coincidental from that. yeah, this flooding situation obviously incredible and extreme. we've had a lot of major flooding situations this year and a lot of them have been across texas and into louisiana. this is just another one of them. you kind of get an idea of this flow here. there's a big high pressure called a bermuda high. a constant feature we have in the summer across the atlantic. it kind of makes the motion here and drives all the moisture. it also on the eastern side of this is incredibly hot, incredibly humid and causing a lot of problems with the heat. we had the system that brought a lot of rain. it's now getting absorbed into a front here. now this moisture in texas is getting pulled up into the mississippi valley and ohio valley today, tomorrow, the next day. that's going to bring flooding farther to the north. we've had extreme flooding. highest totals i've seen is 31 inches in louisiana. we'll see more by the time we're done in the next couple of days. southern louisiana area,

especially around baton rouge and points right around baton rouge. we'll see more moisture to the west of it into east texas and then spreading up, as i said here, across parts of illinois, missouri, indiana. we've seen areas six to eight inches of rain here. we'll get a lot more, probably another ten by the time we're done. the flooding is going to spread. we're going to see that farther off to the north. so a lot of areas getting a lot of flooding with this and then that heat and that humidity that we're doing across the east not breaking really any time soon. >> that's awful. >> thanks. well, "the new york times" -- we'll have more on "the new york times" story that's making waves in the political circles. newt gingrich will join us to talk about one of his favorite publications. plus, the mayor of milwaukee is calling on faith leaders to help restore order in that city now in the face of riots. >> because we are going to make an all out effort to do everything we can to restore order.

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we've got awful news to bring you. riots broke out overnight in milwaukee. the mayor is calling on faith leaders to help restore order to a city that badly needs it. bishop jackson joins us this morning. >> thank you for having at the. >> the may nor has said he needs people like you to weigh in and tell the rioters to stop. what would you say to them this morning? >> well, i say to them, first of all, we've got to confront the fact that black lives matter has not been a help to anybody. in fact, they have stoked

hysteria across this country over the lie that black men are being hunted down by white police officers or police officers in general. it just isn't true, tucker. i mean, the statistics say about 6.5 million black people are arrested every year. about twice as many whites. and that one-ten thousandth of a percent of them end up dead in a confrontation with police. that's hardly an epidemic. but that doesn't matter anymore. there's a mass hysteria that has taken grip and, frankly, i have to say that i think the president by justifying black lives matter has only made things worse. >> we had a discussion earlier on the show, a couple retired police officers, and they said it's not about race. these police officers are being targeted because of their uniform. we've seen the shift maybe the discussion from race or are we muddying the two? >> of course we are because, look, anybody who looks at black lives matter website realized they're not interested in trying to save black lives.

if they were, they would be up in arms over the thousands of young plaque bla-- blacks who d in cities across the country and they don't die at the hands of police. they're interested in having riots and upheaval they think helps to further their sort of agen agenda. one of their agendas is to disrupt what they call the western family which is code language for white. what we need in black communities is for the family to be rebuilt, not disrupted. so there's nothing good about this whole movement and, frankly, as long as celebrities and the president and prominent people continue to justify it, we're going to continue to see these results. we ought to be telling people wait for the facts. >> bishop jackson, do you think this is a result of the black lives matter movement or is this young people looking for an excuse to go after law enforcement? are these two completely separate issues or is this one and the same? >> no, i think they're one in the same because, remember, the

premise of black lives matter is that police are out hunting down black men. if you listen to conversations among prime minister neominent e police brutality rolls off the lips so glibly while ignoring the fact this weekend, nfor example, in chicago, how many will be shot, how many will be killed? until we get leadership in this country talking about jobs, economic community, talking about education in these communities, we're going to continue to see people utilize race as a way of avoiding responsibility for doing anything. >> exactly right. nine people were shot in this neighborhood the day before this killing and nobody said anything about it. bishop, great to see you this morning. thank you for those bracing words. you're a brave man. >> thank you. >> four minutes before the top of the hour. milwaukee is starting to pick up the pieces after a night of violence and destruction. former detective rod wheeler and also former detective sid cardian will be joining us live

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good morning, everyone. it's sunday the 14th of august, 2016. i'm anna kooiman and this is a fox news alert. milwaukee up in flames. look at this. as an angry mob reacted to a deadly police shooting. [ bleep ]. >> rioters burning businesses to the ground, torching squad cars, even throwing brick at officers' heads. this coming after an armed suspect was killed while fleeing from police. >> well, good morning. it's sunday in new york city, and there is drama, violence, and sadness in the city of milwaukee. >> violence began late last night after a cop was shot -- cop shot and killed a 23-year-old man carrying an

illegal gun. police say that suspect and another man ran from a traffic stop ignoring orders to stop and drop the gun. >> 213, you're going to be taking rocks in a second. get behind the barricade at least. cover your six. secure your squad. >> they're starting to approach on. affirmative, form a line, form a line. we're going to start making arrests. >> the man who was killed had 23 rounds in a gun stolen in a robbery months ago. the two were originally stopped for suspicious activity. the cop was wearing a body camera and recorded it apparently the whole time. the doj of wisconsin is looking through that footage to find out what it contains. >> yes, they are. immediately after the shooting ray yoters used facebook to get people on the streets. angry mobs committing complete chaos, even setting a gas station on fire while workers were inside. >> calling for calm, that's what

the mayor of milwaukee tried to do last night, tom barrett. take a listen to the mayor. >> if you're a mother watching this right now and your young son or daughter is not home and you think they're in this area, get them home right now. get them home right now. this is a serious situation, and this is a neighborhood that has, unfortunately, been affected by violence in the recent past. this is a situation where we are asking every resident of this community to do everything they can to help us restore order, and that means, again, and this is pointed directly at parents of young people because you can see from the video there are air lot of young people who are congregating here. if you love your son, if you love your daughter, text them, call them, pull them by the ears and get them home. get them home right now. >> so that press conference happening overnight, and then

after the mayor spoke, there was a very different message delivered by two of the aldermen there. they say they were delivering a message from their constituents, but take a listen. >> what the mayor said and what alderman president hamilton said was correct, but i want you to understand the other side. we haven't been doing enough. everybody is playing f'ing politics. our people are living and dying on the streets. they don't give a [ bleep ] about politics. that was the statement. [ bleep ]. my response was exactly. our community is in pain. >> this is their existence. this is their life. this is the life of their children. now what has happened tonight may not have been right. i'm not justifying that, but no one can deny the fact that

there's problems, racial problems here in milwaukee, wisconsin, that have to be closely not examined but r rectifi rectified. rectify this immediately because if you don't, this vision of downtown, all of that, you're one day away. you're one day away. >> alderman kalif rainy. he said we are one day away from more of this stuff. that's inciting more violence. >> we had governor huckabee on the show earlier. she was an elected official, governor of the state of arkans we asked him about these elected officials making these statements about violence. here is his response. >> that city councilman should resign his seat. i mean, if anything, thatperhap

arrested for inciting violence. what a recklessly irresponsible kind of comment from a public official who took an oath to uphold the law and to respect it and to make law for his community, and now he's inciting the kind of violence that we saw in milwaukee. it's absolutely disgusting and a degenerate form of behavior. >> governor huckabee went on to say this is urban war. this is not protesting. this is mob mentality. this is mob violence. >> but it's the people who take advantage of it for political gain who are the most at fault in my view. maxine waters did the same thing during the l.a. riots, encouraging the rioters, and she in effect egged them on just as this guy is doing and nobody ever called her on it nor will call this guy on it. >> it's unbelievable. what few businesses there are in this section of sherman park in milwaukee being totally destroyed and set aflame.

stores owned by the people who live next door to the other people who are setting these. >> a jet beauty supply store, a bp gas station. how is burning these businesses to the ground going to do anything for people being employed in this neighborhoods. not being able to employ the people around there. >> police are under fire. another fox news alert. a police officer ambushed. police are looking for a man who shot and killed this man, officer tim smith. he was responding to a call of a suspicious person in the area overnight. smith was gunned down as he got out of his squad car to confront the suspect in the city of eastman. officer smith was in his early 30s. he leaves behind a wife and three children. >> joining us two men who have been owe the front lines of law enforcement for many years. rod wheeler and steve cardigan. rod is in washington, steve is next to us on the couch. first to you, steve. i don't want to be hysterical, it's sunday morning. you don't want to make this worse than it already is but

kind of can connect the dots here and it feels like we're losing control. >> tucker, we've been losing control for a long time. if you look back -- >> by me, i mean civilian. >> back in july of 2009 when president obama came out and said that the cambridge police are maligning -- they're maligning the cambridge police. that started a talk where politician kansas city now put the blame on police officers and society before finding out the real facts. so it's the trickle down effect. every police now thinks this is okay. >> rod to you on the same subject, firefighters, we're told, were being told not to respond to some of these fires because there was random shooting going on and they were afraid for their own lives. what do you make of that? >> well, absolutely. and the hard part is we cannot expect them to go into a volatile situation like this because obviously their lives would be on the line. now, it was a period of time last night where the police did not have the situation under control.

the crowd was totally out of whack. they were very chaotic and they were doing all kinds of things, and it took the police a period of time before they could actually get enough manpower in there to kind of quell the situation. but real quickly, anna, let's take a look at what even led up to this. we have a police officer in uniform chasing after a bad guy with a gun. this is a known criminal, and the police officer asked this guy to drop the gun. guy doesn't drop the gun so the cops shoot him. what do we expect our police officers to do these days? walk away? >> and to steve's point, we're jumping to conclusions before we have any data. we don't even know the police officer's race. we don't know his name. t we don't know anything about this police officers. >> we do know the officer warned him to drop the gun. the presumption -- >> multiple times. >> multiple times. if he has the gun in his hand and he doesn't drop the gun, you have to assume he's going to turn and shoot on you. there's just no other belief or recourse that you have, and the officers will be justified at the end of the day if this holds

true. >> so, rod, if the city of milwaukee refuses to get a riot like this under control and it looks pretty clear that they did refuse to get this riot under control, then why wouldn't the governor of the state call in the national guard? >> at that point i'm not so sure if the crowd was large enough to call in the national guard. i think the city of milwaukee and the state can actually handle a crowd this size. obviously, if it becomes more chaotic, they can't get it under control, then they will have to look at some additional resources, but i do think right now from what we see and from what we've learned, they have enough resources to get it under control. they did make three arrests, and also, tucker, keep in mind now, this is the same community that has had a total of about nine shootings in the past couple of weeks. so we can't lose sight of that. >> last couple of days. >> last couple of days. that's right. >> guys in the booth, can we roll the video of the alderman? look at the police officer standing behind him. he's basically saying more

violence is coming, steve, that the reckoning is happening. in the next day, unless we have a discussion or dialogue, we're going to be setting more buildings on fire. if you're the police officer standing there, what are you thinking? >> it behooves the officer. he's probably not able to digest what's really being said. he can't intervene. all you can do is do his job and stand there and protect the people that are up on that podium. >> rod, we had a law enforcement guest on the show earlier. he said that he feels like police officers are being targeted because of their uniform, not because of their race necessarily. we don't know the race of this police officer. he's 24 years old with 6 years of service on the force. do you think there's truth to that, they're being targeted because of their uniform? >> i think it's a combination of both, their uniforms and the fact white police officers are looked at a lot differently in african-american communities an african-american police officers. i mean, just look at what happened in dallas. look at what happened in baton rouge. so i do think race does play a

factor in this equivalence. >> steve, we were just at the conventions last month and every cop in the world were there, they were super nice, and they maintained order. politicians wanted them there because they were there and they wanted to be protected. but when a riot breaks out in a neighborhood, the same politicians say we don't want to incite any more violence so we don't want to get the cops involved. it seems a double standard. >> it is a double standard. we serve a purpose. to go back to your point -- when i was a uniformed officer, i wore my uniform to and from work. police officers are not doing that any longer because they feel chastised. they feel they have a bull's-eye on their back. the dynamic is completely changed. >> all right. steve and rod, we appreciate you joining us. stick around as this story unfolds in milwaukee. what does bill clinton think of hillary clinton's e-mail scandal. he says it's the biggest load of bull he's ever heard. chris wallace joins us live to react to that next.

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hi, everyone. good morning. some other stories we're following this morning. this fox news alert. three people are now dead and thousands have been rescued from the historic flooding in louisiana. many trapped inside their cars. >> i'm drowning. >> we're coming, we're coming. >> i'm going to break this window. >> we're breaking the window.

>> rainfall records were broken with some areas getting two months' worth of rain in just a single day. rapid developments on a deadly train attack in switzerland. the 27-year-old suspect now dead after stabbing six people with a knife and setting a crowded train on fire there in switzerland. the 34-year-old woman also dead. three others, including a 6-year-old child, remain in critical condition. so far there are no indications it was terror. and the search is intensifying for this man who police say shot and killed the leader of a new york city mosque in broad daylight. 55-year-old imam and his 64-year-old associate were fatally shot in the back of the head. no motive has been determined but some are blaming donald trump's anti-muslim rhetoric. donald trump gearing up for his big speech on the fight against radical islamic terror

tomorrow. so what can we expect to hear? >> joining us now to weigh in is the host of fox news sunday, chris wallace. so what do you expect trump is going to say tomorrow? >> well, i sat down on friday with his running mate, mike pence, who will be at the speech on monday, and they're playing it hard. they're previewing it hard and saying that trump is going to offer not only his vision for how to deal with isis and deal with the question of radical islamic terror but also specifics, and that would be interesting because, quite frankly, either he nor hillary clinton have offered a lot of specifics as to how their fight against isis would be different from president obama's fight. so it will be interesting to see what he actually says tomorrow, but they're billing it as a big deal. >> well, the trump campaign going after the media, threatening to take the credentials of the "new york times" away following a bombshell story that came out yesterday calling the trump campaign disorganized, that he's a sullen candidate, that he's sort of falling apart, and that they cite a couple unnamed

sources in this piece. what did you make of this piece and the trump campaign's response to it? >> well, i have to say i don't think it's really a bombshell. i think an awful lot of it is widely believed and widely reported by a lot of people. it is a disorganized campaign. there's no question. and it will be an interesting thing to see tomorrow. yes, he'll make a big speech on radical islamic terrorism, but will we still be talking about that wednesday or thursday? last week he made a big speech about the economy laying out his plan. you could argue with whether you think it's good or bad, but then the next day he's talking about second amendment people. the question about his mood and whether he's sullen or not i don't know. i haven't talked to him recently, you know, and put him on the psychiatrist couch, but it strike me as the kind of story -- i'm not sure there's any story that would cause you to take a legitimate news organization and pull their credentials. we do have a free press in this country. >> chris, former president bill

clinton made some waves with his wife's critics this week when he said this about the fbi investigation into her private e-mail server. >> the fbi director said when he testified before congress he had to amend his previous day's statement that she had never received any e-mails marked classified. they saw two little notes with a "c" on it. this is the biggest load of bull i ever heard. >> what was he trying to say there, and will the media cover it as much as they're covering the seemingly negative stories about donald trump? >> well, what he's basically doing is taking a very technical point. you got to remember what hillary clinton originally said is that there was no classified material, and fbi director comey directly contradicted that, said she did send classified material. then there was a question was it classified at the time. the answer to that was yes. the only issue was whether some of it was marked classified or not. it was in three instances,

although apparently incorrectly. so he's trying to take that very technical point and make it a kind of clean bill of health for hillary clinton on the e-mail scandal. my guess is it's not going to get a lot of credibility. you've got to say the press has been fairly tough on hillary clinton and the e-mails just as they have been on donald trump and some of his statements. >> slick willy move then, so to speak. chris wallace, host of "knfox ns sunday." thanks so much, mike. >> bye, guys. >> chris. >> and we'll be watching mike. >> it's been a long night. >> after an awful night in milwaukee, what is the mindset of the police officers on the ground. we have a law enforcement panel here to discuss that next. >> now, what has happened tonight may not have been right. i'm not justifying that, but no one can deny the fact that

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[ bleep ]. >> alt controversial reaction to the overnight riots in milwaukee. believe it or not, listen to this, this is an elected official speaking. >> this is their existence. this is their life. this is the life of their children. now, what has happened tonight may have not been right. i'm not justifying that, but no one can deny the fact that there's problems, racial problems, here in milwaukee, wisconsin, that have to be closely not examined but

rectified. reat this rectify this immediate because if you don't, this vision of downtown, all day, you're one day away. you're one day away. >> you're one day away from more violence he says. our panel joe card kneinelli ane cord a cordero and jamil foster. the police standing hirnd hbehi joe. he's saying basically you better get your shop in order or there's going to be more violence. >> he's one step away from having the cuffs put on him. are you kidding me? that's just inciting more violence. saying you don't come to our terms, this is what's going to happen. instead of taking the real leader approach and saying both sides need to come together, this violence has to stop right now and let calmer heads prevail, let's talk about this, he's just saying if you don't do it and you don't do it in a

fashion that's conducive to what i'm saying, more of this is going to happen. i see no sense in that whatsoever. >> joe, your take on that, a police officer? >> i think that puts the police in a very difficult position. look, you're looking for leadership, and these are very difficult times for the police and for the city and you would expect that political leaders would exert that leadership and insist upon calm. waiting for the investigation. let's figure out what really happened. >> calm is one step, but the underlying issues here, the underlying symptoms, you know, we've heard criticism this morning blaming president obama, his odd hrtio his administration. saying black youth unemployment has skyrocketed. this issue of sherman park in milwaukee, wisconsin, you go into some of these houses, people just sitting in their homes all day, not working, blinds put up over their windows, sitting inside watching television all day. is poverty the main issue?

>> i'm not sure. i think that what we see is any number of really complicated problems sort of related to one another, but what is happening in a press conference like that is we conflate really difficult, complicated problems. if you want to talk about the police, if you want to talk about police reform, if you want to talk about criminal justice reform, let's talk about that issue and try to talk about it in a narrow and precise way that doesn't inflame tensions. >> you're right about that because he also brought up race and we don't even know the identity of this police officers yet. not that it would matter. >> and i agree. absolutely so. look, you know, we have to have a conversation about the issues, but we're talking about access to jobs, access to education, better quality of life. let's talk about that. you know, to immediately by default, you know, have rioting because of a police-involved shooting without knowing the circumstances and having political officials sort of endorsing and justify that really makes the conversation

about something other than what it really should be about. >> you just said the people sit back, they're at home, they're watching tv, and you have to wonder is there a group that's just on stand by for situations just like this and go, all right, fellows, let's burn the place down because the perfect opportunity to loot, to do this and to destroy the neighborhood. that's that select few that make it bad for the majority. >> yeah, we know this started on facebook and people just coming out. burning down stores, local businesses that may be owned by the people down the street from them. the jet beauty supply store right down the street set afire, set aflame. these are stores owned by the very same people they probably see walking down the street. >> it only hurts these communities. what's really important here though is most americans of every race understand that that is ridiculous and inappropriate. the unfortunate problem, however, is that most of us just

in america right now are having conversations about these issues and we're doing it narrowly with respect to race and with respect to racial bias. we can only speculate about those things. we're not talking about solutions. we're not talking about tangible reforms. we can't seem to maintain our focus on issues that we can actually do something about. we're more interested in speculating about racism. >> right. >> that's because we're a reactive society right now. we react. there's nothing proactive being done right now to stem this in the future. everything is a reaction to what happens, and it's taken out of context until the facts finally come in and that's when everybody sits back and goes i'll step back from that one now but it's a little too late. >> we saw a different response in dallas where people were coming out and applying for jobs in response to what happened there. great to see all three of you. thank you so much. the sounds of gunfire and a scramble for safety at an american mall. >> this is america, folks.

an entire mall evacuated, locked down after an apparent shooting but questions about what actually happened. we'll hear why when we come back. a new poll shows trump getting just 1% of the african-american vote. what can he do to win back the other 99%. we'll discuss this next. gaviscon heartburn remedy that gives you fast-acting, long-lasting relief. it immediately neutralizes acid and only gaviscon helps keep acid down for hours. for fast-acting, long-lasting relief, try doctor-recommended gaviscon.

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that could be a challenge. a new fox news poll shows donald trump has just 1% of the african-american vote going into november. what's the plaen to win tn to wr 99%. joining us is ebony williams, ashley bell. great to see you both. ebony, first to you. if i were in the trump campaign, i would run pictures of the riots from last night and of that same neighborhood last week and last year and three years ago and say these are the fruits of the democratic party's urban policies and it's not working. >> certainly, tucker. i agree a good first step is indicting what's not working on the democratic side, talking about hillary clinton's failures to her promises to the black community but that's only half of the problem. they actually have to and i think it's great ashley is being brought in in this capacity to speak specifically to some of the challenges in the black community and their concerns, employment, economic plight, and criminal justice reform. >> ashley, what is your theory for why 1%.

that is just -- by the way, i mean, the margin of error suggested it to be negative 3%. that's just not good, and i think he has a real message for black voters. why are they not hearing and responding to it do you think? >> this is not a new problem. all of our nominees have this challenge but eboni is right, the first half is we have to identify where the democrats have failed. you talk about criminal justice reform, the democrats have been getting a pass. the clintons are the one that created the criminal justice problems we have in this country. more african-americans were put in the federal and state prisons under bill clinton than in any american president's history and now you have black lives matter, a group that says they want to talk about criminal justice reform but just a couple weeks ago launched an entire anti-israel platform. you have this convoluting of issues where you're having organization that is appear to be for one thing and then they're using other issues to come in that are anti-american, and that should also be a problem and democrats should be

called out on their affiliations with organizations that are anti-american. >> why should we bring in low skill workers to keep wages down. why is it good for americans earning 50 grand a year? >> i think it's a terrific question for donald trump to address. these are really good opportunities for donald trump himself and his surrogates to get that message, point out those inconsist encies you're speaking about out to voters. he doesn't have to win a majority of black votes but it's important he deny a certain percentage of those black voters to hillary clinton because she has to have 93%, 96% of that vote to be successful, and if he can do that, he can move the meter. >> so why would she have a lock on that vote? what exactly about hillary clinton is to appealing to black voters that they're going to get

out and vote? >> well, look, i think she brings up a good point. we have to get our message out. donald trump's message about ending regulations that make it easier for people to have the difficulty of american entrepreneurship is important. many of the people part of the criminal justice system in these cities are ex-felons, people that can't get jobs the normal way. they are the number one folks who are going to have to create their own job, going to have to be their own entrepreneur. that person out there trying to buy a dilapidated house in a bad neighborhood, fix it for cash, that's capital gains. we have to explain to them which party is going to help you and be most in your favor when it comes to capital gains. we have to make it local, take our message from 30,000 feet to the ground. that's what we have to do. >> thank you for joining us. i'm sorry, we're out of time. great to see you both. and clayton and anna back on the couch. >> this out of louisiana where

floodwaters ha floodwaters are deadly. a woman is pulled from a submerged car and then something incredible happens. >> i'm drowning. >> we're coming. >> we're coming. >> i'm going to break this window. >> we're breaking the window. >> get my dog. >> get my dog. get my [ muted ] dog now. >> hold on. >> here, here. >> i can't get the dog. >> she's gone. >> no. no. >> i got the dog.

>> so the woman is saved from that submerged car and then she asks to go get the dog and they go down and get her dog as well saving both of their lives it appears. we'll bring in major general glen curtis from louisiana from the national guard for the latest on the flooding. have the waters receded? >> no, ma'am, they have not. we have not crested in most places and we're seeing rising water where we've never seen it before. >> what are your biggest concerns at this hour, general? >> biggest concern is people's safety, saving lives. you know, people are tending to stay in their neighborhoods and in their homes longer than they should and then suddenly they're getting trapped by floodwaters and all the first responders are trying to get them out of their homes and bring them to shelters and bring them to safety. >> are cell towers still up? are these people able to communicate, let you know they are trapped in their homes, electricity is out, power outages, what about the infrastructure? >> the 911 system for the most

part is still working. there are some struggles with the cell towers probably because of just inundation. but people are pretty well able to communicate to let us know when they are in trouble so we can try to assist them. >> it's a beautiful thing to see these people being rescued, but some of the scenarios didn't play out so fortuitously. an elderly man drowned, slipped and fallen in high waters. a man driving a pickup truck swept off a flooded highway and a woman was recovered from a river. for the people in precarious situations, what is your advice for them right now? >> to -- if you can -- if you see floodwaters coming and you can still get out, get out and get to a shelter or get to high ground or to a family member's house. if you are trapped or if you're caught by the floodwaters, please get ahold of 911 or to the emergency personnel so we can come and get you and try to get you out of that situation.

>> what do you need right now? >> the biggest thing we need, and we're still building what we call capacity is just more people to come in with high water vehicles, boats, aerial assets, helicopters, to do search and rescue. that's probably the biggest need. the other thing i would tell you that, you know, civilians can do is we need red cross volunteers. we need volunteers at our shelters. we are running into some issues for food and supplies at those shelters, and then we just need neighbors to be good neighbors and check on each other and make sure they're okay. >> we have a lot of very generous viewers so i hope they will open their hearts and wallets. major general glen curtis, thank you for joining us. good luck to you. >> thank you. we are following other stories making headlines. pure chaos sweeping through a mall after someone opens fire. this social media video captured

panicked shoppers at this north carolina mall running for their lives. thankfully no one was hurt but several people were hurt while running out of the mall. discussion to allow the fbi to release the details of hillary clinton's interview with the feds to congress. but james comey and the fbi are pressing to send some of the information, others in government are objecting, most notably the state department who wants the chance to comb through it. the family of one of the convicted killers in "making a murderer" is reacting to new developments this morning. a wisconsin judge ruling that investigators coerced a confession from brendan dassey, the nephew of steven avery. dassey will be released within 90 days unless he gets a new trial. his uncle chuck avery says, quote, i don't think they got no ground to stand on. i think brendan will be

released. he's welcome out. he has no enemies. dassey was found guilty of helping his uncle steven avery rape and murder theresa hallback. dozens of people looting a burned down gas station during milwaukee's protest. what makes a person do that? keith is back with his diagnosis on that next. plus, former speak of the house newt gingrich will be joining us live next hour. he's going to take us inside the trump campaign. at carrabba's, we've never celebrated our grill like this. for a short time, choose two or three grilled favorites on one plate - like chicken bryan and linguine positano starting at just $15.99. carrabba's. this is how you do italian.

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we've got a sad fox news alert for you this morning. riots erupted in milwaukee overnight. stores have been looted, businesses burned to the ground after cops shot and killed an armed suspect who refused to drop his gun. >> hear to weigh in is dr. keith ablow. what happens inside the minds of these kids. they receive a facebook message,

go outside, take to the streets, join the group. it's almost like a flash mob mentality. take us inside the minds of these kids. >> first of all, you know, kids today are living fictional lives, so they can be driven to irrational acts by a narrative that is put out there on facebook that seems to headline one kind of an event that on analysis may be a very different kind of thing. we don't know whether this was a wrongful shooting or it wasn't, but kids can be turned into a mob because all the technology is there to do that without information. and, you know, these kids have so little to look forward to in some of these cities not because of conservative republican politics but because their autonomy has been taken by them from liberals who say, look, your life is going to be food stamps and public assistance.

autonomy will not be yours. they turn this into their effectiveness. >> should we be surprised by this, doctor? our leaders have politicized crime. once you tell people looting a liquor store is an act of defiance, of insurrections, should it shock you when they loot the liquor store? >> not at all. these kids, these young people, these men have been set up for this by the president, ex-attorney general holder. word has gone out from the corner office that there's terrible injustice afoot in american. it's not the olympic team as i've said before. that's not the symbol, that wonderful diversity. it's not the first american female gold medalist in swimming. that's not -- who is african-american. that's not the symbol to look at. really what you should look at is all the injustice. the police officers you can't trust. and it started when attorney general holder -- didn't start there, but continued, attended a funeral after somebody tried to

take a gun from a police officer and was then shot and he's at the funeral of the fellow who had tried to take the cop's gun. that's an incredibly powerful message. it's like firing off a starting gun saying you're justified in rioting because the corner office says that's understandable. so i think we're seeing literally a projection of the president's ambivalence about america and his real rage at america, and i talked about this for so long, on the streets. leadership matters. >> and before we let you go, we've got to get your thoughts on what's going through the minds of first responders, dr. ablow. milwaukee may be on fire, but firefighters, some of them were told not to go and try to put out those flames because there was random gunfire and they were worried about their own lives. what's going through their mind? >> well, man, i mean, trying to do a heroic job when so many people might want to end your life who have profound rage

toward you is a mind-numbing and mind-bending expectation. so we're asking so much of them and i'd love to see the president come out and say, look, bottom line is if you run away from a police officer armed and you won't stop, bad things can happen. where is the surprise in that? how does that lead to rioting? that's craziness. >> exactly. >> it has to be a message from the corner office. >> thanks, dr. ablow. we appreciate you coming on this morning. >> thank you. next, "the new york times" reports donald trump's campaign is going to hell. >> maybe we'll start thinking about taking their press credentials away from them. >> so who is right? trump or "the times"? plus newt gingrich know what is it's like behind the scenes of the trump chain. he' he'll join us live next hour. h.

the newspaper is going to hell. maybe we'll start thinking about taking their press credentials away from them. >> donald trump, of course, blasting "the new york times." howie kurtz joins us to break down that story but before we do that, our own james rosen, who even as we sleep s out reporting dug up a photograph of you. this was during the time when you were the backup drumming for santana at woodstock and i want to put that on the screen. can you confirm that is you, howard kurtz? >> that was at my college newspaper. i have grown. i have matured since then. >> that is the greatest picture ever. that's now my screen saver. howie kurtz, you're a good man. i couldn't resist. it's so fantastic. the trump campaign is saying in the wake of a piece written

yesterday in part by maggie haberman who said the campaign is in cray i don't say and trump doesn't listen to his advisers, this is another example of bias and he's possibly pulling the credentials of "times" reporters. >> "new york times" news stories often had an underlying negative tone about trump. advisers hope to refashion a crudely effective showman into a plausible american president but they think trump may be beyond coaching. on the substance it appears to be a well reported story that matches some reports i have seen from others who say his advisers say he goes off script. he told me two nonmonths ago he might pull "the new york times" credentials. >> they're his rallies, and so isn't it an attack on the first amendment if you say i think

your coverage is, infect, wo working for the person i'm running against. >> he has every right no to the nauk to "the times," to tell the paper to go to hell. i think he went further saying the unnamed sources in the story he says he believes are made up, that this is fiction, that it's jason blair territory because that's a very, very serious charge. in "the times'" defense, there are three trump advisers, including rudy giuliani who was quoted by name, jason miller is quoted by name. so trump's standard operating procedure here is to attack the messenger, the media outlet, failing, disgusting and all of that. what he didn't do is say it's completely untrue although i'm sure he disagrees he's uncoachable and all that. >> howard kurtz, host of "media buzz" and a former drummer for

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good morning. it's sunday the 14th of august, 2016. i'm anna kooiman and this is a fox news alert. violent riots erupt overnight as an american city goes up in flames. [ bleep ]. >> one person is dead and businesses burned to the ground. we have the latest from milwaukee straight ahead. and then a major disaster unfolding in the state of louisiana. even by their standards, it has been too much rain. three people are dead after devastating flood. thousands more need to be rescued. >> i'm drowning. >> we're coming. >> we're coming. >> i'm going to break this window. >> we're breaking the window.

>> a woman rescued from her car just in the nick of time. her dog rescued just after her. scenes like this infolding across louisiana but the storms are not over. we are live on the ground ahead. >> and donald trump punching back against the biased media. >> maybe what we'll do, maybe we'll start thinking about taking their press credentials away from them. when they write dishonest stories, we should be a little bit tough, don't we agree. >> this hour we go inside the trump campaign with former speaker of the house newt gingrich. "fox & friends" hour four starts right now. good morning, everyone. an american city up in flames after angry mobs burn businesses to the ground following a deadly police shooting.

[ bleep ]. >> as the sun comes up, the damage is clear. milwaukee now trying to clean up the mess after rioters caused complete kay nchaos in the city last night. >> looters throwing bricks at officers, hitting one in the head. after a 24-year-old cop shot and killed a 23-year-old running from a traffic stop with a stolen gun. police fired after the suspect and another person in the car refused to stop. >> they're starting to approach on us. >> affirmative. form a line. form a line. we're going to start making arrests. >> 213, you're going to be taking rocks in a second. get behind the barricade at least. >> cover your six. secure your squad. >> rioters flooding the street, shattering car windows, set a gas station on fire while employees were inside. some even chanted black power. police haven't released the names or races of anyone involved in the shooting. the wisconsin doj is investigating the shooting.

>> in the weeb hou hours of thet we heard from the mayor. in the video he said you can see it's a lot of young people causing this chaos, they were taking to social media. he said, parents, get your kids home now. take a listen. >> if you're a mother who is watching this right now and your young son or daughter is not home and you think they're in this area, get them home right now. get them home right now. this is a serious situation, and this is a neighborhood that has, unfortunately, been affected by violence in the recent past. this is a situation where we are asking every resident of this community to do everything they can to help us restore order, and that means again, and this is pointed directly at parents of young people because you can see from the video there are a lot of young people who are

congregating here. if you love your son, if you love your daughter, text them, call them, pull them by the ears and get them home. get them home right now. >> that's the long-time mayor of milwaukee who i'm sure means well but bad parenting is part of the problem. in the same city two alderman came out after the mayor and at least one seemed to threaten more violence if his demands weren't met. here are russell w. zastamper i. >> what the mayor said and what president hamilton said was correct, but i want you to understand the other side. we haven't been doing enough. everybody is playing f'ing politics. our people are living and dying on the streets. they don't give a [ bleep ] about politics.

that was the statement. my response was, exactly. our community is in pain. >> this is their existence. this is their life. this is the life of their children. now, what has happened tonight may have not been right. i'm not justifying that, but no one can deny the fact that there's problems, racial problems here in milwaukee, wisconsin, that have to be closely not examined but rectified. rectify this immediately because if you don't, this vision of downtown, all of that, you're one day away. you're one day away. >> you're one day away. if that's not a threat, i don't know what is. >> we have steve kardigan and rob wheeler to weigh in on this commentary. let's start with that, with khalif rainey, the alderman,

talking about you're one day away from violence basically saying it's okay to go down and burn down some buildings. what do you make of that, steve? >> in any type of disturbance, you want to calm the situation first and then deal with the problem. this is incitement. this is something that's going to cause further damage to the community, and, unfortunately, people are going to listen to him. so -- >> he's an elected official. >> that's the sad part. you know, and i think rod will agree that, you know, you've got to calm things. we have to deal with it. don't insert people in there that are going to incite and inflame the situation. it's only going to make things ten times worse. >> rob, we don't know the race of the officer. he's 24 years old. he's been with the department for six years. he's on administrative duty right now with the wisconsin doj, division of criminal investigation, leading the investigation. they're looking at body camera video. what needs to be the focus of

the investigation. >> the focus of the investigation, anna, should be the elements of what transpired yesterday evening, and we kind of already know that. we know that this guy, that this police officer, uniformed police officers, by the way, so there's no question as to who was chasing this one guy. it was a uniformed cop. we know that this guy was a career criminal, a bad guy with a gun, and efforts out there to commit crime. so the police officer did his duty. he asked the guy to drop the gun. the guy didn't drop the gun. let me comment quickly on what this elected official said. i think it's a bunch of crap what this guy said because you know what this elected official could have said? he could have sat up there and said, look, we got problems in this community, we need to work with the police. we need to find a bridge to our problems. he didn't say that. he said you're one day away from burning downtown up. that's what he said. if it were me responding to this guy, i would say he's part of the problem there in milwaukee. >> steve, i mean, just to insert some facts in here. in the hours before this

shooting, nine people were shot in this neighborhood. five of them were killed. there was no outcry over that. i wasn't aware of it. i don't think anybody outside of milwaukee was aware of that until this happened. this happens every day in chicago and cities around the country. nobody says anything. why is that? >> it's selective protest because it was a police officer-involved shooting. that gives those that are looking to incite in our political government to just do that. to be able to have that justification where they can get on social media and attract those people that have grown up in a very challenging environment without dads and this is -- it's a wolf pack mentality. they get together and they create chaos. >> talking about that wolf pack mentali mentality, we were listening to the 911 tapes as the police were saying get in a line, get in a line, we're about to make some arrests. your police car is about to take rocks. there were panic in some of their viceoices.

did they do the right thing? what was your sense of their response? >> my sense was they were told to back off. we're seeing a lot more of that in this country. police officers are being told to back off by some of the elected officials such as the mayor of baltimore and the governor of missouri, jay nixon. we know that that's happening now. the police officer has to strike a delicate balance between dealing with the community and then listening to some of these elected officials, but at the end of the day we're going to continue to have these riots until we get strong leadership in this country on the state and local levels. >> it's so grotesque. what's the point of having a police department or a government or a society if they're not even going to try to keep me safe when it really matters. like what's the point? >> well, we've seen it -- like you said, we've seen it in baltimore, all over the country, law enforcement does not have the support of the politicians, the people that empower us to take action. >> steve and rod, we appreciate your insight this morning. both of you have been on the front lines of law enforcement.

appreciate it. >> thank you. five minutes after the hour. this is a fox news alert. two officers shot in georgia in two different incidents. police are now looking for the man that shot and killed this man, officer tim smith. he was responding to a call of a suspicious person overnight. officer smith was in his early 30s and leaves behind a wife and three children. he was shot in the city of eastman, south of atlanta, while getting out of his squard cd ca confront the suspect. in marietta officers exchanging gunfire with a pair of car thieves. one officer shot and injured. one suspect injured but both are in custody. the officer's injuries are not life threatening. and this, at least three people are now confirmed dead and thousands have been rescued from the historic flooding in louisiana. many were trapped in their cars. >> oh, my god, i'm drowning. >> we're coming. >> we're coming. >> i'm going to break this window. >> we're breaking the window.

>> rainfall records were broken with some areas getting two months' worth of rain in just a single day. we had a gentleman with the national guard on earlier. >> they need supplies and they need volunteers. >> heavy duty. donald trump meanwhile goes after "the new york times" in a speech yesterday. watch this. >> maybe we'll start thinking about taking their press credentials away from them. when they write dishonest stories, should be a little bit tough, don't we agree? >> so what's really going on here? newt gingrich takes us inside the trump campaign. he joins us next. plus some advice for trump if he wants to win. frank luntz will join us live at the bottom of the hour. you can run an errand. (music playing) ♪ push it real good... (announcer vo) or you can take a joyride. bye bye, errands, we sing out loud here. siriusxm. road happy.

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police involved shooting. one man died and another is in custody. stores were looted, others were burned. injuries reported, chaos. joining us now is former speak of the house newt gingrich to talk politics and american society. mr. speaker, thanks for joining us. as you look at those pictures, does it surprise you at a moments when our political leaders are politicizing crime, that we're seeing more of this? >> well, let me say, first of all, what a terrible difference between our two young gymnasts the other night in brazil who were supporting each other, hugging each other, committed to being together as a team, one white, one black. the opposite of the barack obama continuous assault on increasing racial division in america, and i thought the other night that's the america we want to be. last night in milwaukee is the america we don't want to be, and as you pointed out in the last week just south of milwaukee, 99 americans were shot in chicago.

24 died. i don't understand why the death of everyday citizens often at the hands of their fellow -- their neighbors doesn't count as a crisis in this country. look at the attention we're paying to louisiana. far more people will have been killed in chicago in one week and it's about 3,500 now killed in chicago since obama became president. one more comment, we ought to have a standard policy of filming these kind of events using police and drones and then tracking down every person's face we can pick up on the film and arresting them. participating in a riot should be totally unacceptable because it's a threat to the very fabric of civilization. >> forget chicago. i mean, heck, nine people shot just in milwaukee, five of them killed just in the past two days there alone in milwaukee, a stone's throw from chicago. donald trump and mike pence have talked about being the law and order candidates during this election cycle.

if the trump -- what should donald trump come out and say? and what can the trump campaign do when they focus on this type of violence? is there anything a political candidate can do to quell this violence? >> sure. i have been urging them to go to milwaukee, baltimore, detroit, south side chicago. they ought to say, first of all, we're not going to tolerate any kind of violence. we've clear track records of how to do it. new york reduced murders by 85%. in richmond they reduced homicides in one year by a third. we know how to target the criminals and get them off the street. second, they ought to say that these cities in part are a the democratic unionized bureaucracies are a disaster. the schools don't teach kids how to do anything. the regulations and taxes stop small businesses. the fact is you don't have a job, you don't have a safe neighborhood. you don't have a school that educates your kids. the frustration of the citizens is real and it is a by-product or a direct product of the

failure of hillary clinton's liberal policies over the last half century, and we should be for dramatically replacing them starting with school choice, dramatic lowering of regulations, dramatic lowering of taxes on new business. getting people to work is the best social program you have and people who work and own property don't engage in riots. >> if we can stick to the politics message you were just messaging with donald trump and switch gears just a bit, yesterday he mentioned possibly removing the press credentials for "the new york times" in response to a piece that he feels was completely unfair, it had some unnamed sources in there he says he feels were false and were made up. the piece says he is erratic and sullen at times when he's not at his rallies. that he doesn't listen to his advisers. that he's tough to tame. what do you make of this piece and was that the correct response from mr. trump? >> look, first of all, the very same piece could have been written in august of 1980 about ronald reagan. the campaign had a two-day

retreat to put together things. went on to beat jimmy carter by the largest electoral defeat for any incumbent president in american history. all campaigns have tensions. all campaigns have confusion. i mean, why is nobody at the "new york times" writing a story on how does the clinton campaign cope with the number of criminal charges that leak out day after day. you know, donald trump may make an occasional verbal mistake. she both lies and engages in criminal activity. a at some point the weight of those two is disproportionate. >> "the new york times" website, our producers looked into it to say if there was mention of bill clinton's speech the another night where he said he thought the scandal was a load of bull. there are a few key moments that are pointed out in this article. donald trump saying that the only reason he would lose pennsylvania is if there was voter fraud in that state yet he's down by double digits in

pennsylvania right now. is that a fair assessment, the only reason he would loose pennsylvania is baecause of trickery? >> he has been ahead at times in pennsylvania. i expect he'll be ahead again. he has had two things happen to him both of which he can shrug off. he had the media pile on starting at the democratic convention and had probably as one-sided negative press for two solid weeks as you can get without becoming hysterical and that does have an affect in midsummer. the other is hillary spent $90 million in ads trying to suppress his vote. what we do know about trump is, as jeb bush could explain to hillary, you can temporary affect trump with ads, but in the long run they don't seem to have much impact. >> that is a good point as the jeb campaign learned. speaker, great to see you this morning. thanks for coming on. >> have a nice day. fox news alert. we continue to follow the unrest in milwaukee. the mayor calling on faith leaders to help restore order.

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riots breaking out overnight in milwaukee, wisconsin. the mayor is calling on faith leaders to help restore order to the beleaguered city. >> tomorrow we'll be meeting again with church leaders and community leaders because we are going to make an all-out effort to do everything we can to restore order. >> we're going to bring in pastor salavares from the infinity baptist church. thanks for coming in.

what can faith leaders do to quell the violence? >> i think faith leaders can actually do a whole lot. we've seen what faith has done with the whole issue that happened in charleston, south carolina, as well as in baltimore on the second day where the riots kind of ceased. i would want to encourage like i'm encouraging the pastors in new york city that the pastors in milwaukee after their service, they need to go out there, walk in those communities, and begin to talk to the people, pray with the people, because people are just angry. you have a lot of victims that are responding, you know, with a lot of serious concerns about their relationship with the police department. >> what would happen -- so the police kind of stood back and let this happen last night in milwaukee as they have done in other cities. what would happen if right in the middle of a riot a local pastor walked right into the rioters and said you knock this off right now. you should be ashamed of yourself. go home. >> i did it in baltimore. we drove down to baltimore.

i walked up to guys with masks on with guns that were angry, ready to give their lives for what happened to freddie gray and i went and said, brothers, can i pray with you p.m. so? some of them said i don't want to prayer. i said i want to pray that you don't go to jail, you don't get get killed. i had crips and bloods say, you can pray. you saw god touch their hearts and by the end of the night we met over 3,000 people and just said go home. we're one of the people in the crowd saying go home and there were only two arrests but the first day there were 200 arrests. so we can do something as clergy on the ground. >> that's great. what's weird about the shooting that happened last night happened a block away from the christian university seminary. one block. there's churches all around those streets. how is there a disconnect? how does this unfold in that community? there's churches right next door to where the shooting happened.

what can faith leaders do to break that disconnect, have that conversation where this doesn't happen, where the kids aren't sitting at home all day. they're being involved in the community. >> well, i want to share with you and what i hope white america will humbly understand. you know, if i got shot and killed today, do you know what would come out? my record. i was a street god, i was a drug dealer. but i'm a change man. this is a lot of black people are very nervous when it comes to cops, and even with david clark, it didn't help at the gop. freddie gray died for running down the street. that's a fact. and he was in the hands of the police department, and he goes on and says, look, guys, applaud, this young man was basically killed and nobody is being charged for it. he's from milwaukee, so people

in milwaukee, he's not going to have a solid voice in the african-american community, but we need clergy that can get out there that are trusted, that could actually go and talk to people, go in their homes, do things that cops may not be so welcome. as a pastor you're still welcome to do something like that. >> i thought six people were charged with freddie gray's death. >> they all got acquitted. no one has done any time. every last one was acquitted, and at the gop convention, everybody applauded that everybody was acquitted. but you still have families and friends there of a dead african-american who ran down the street. >> i don't think anybody is for freddie gray's death but are you saying the justice system was corrupt in this case? >> what i'm saying is things are happening and it's almost like as an african-american you feel like you could be killed and no consequence is going to come ever to an officer. i want officers to be safe. i was in dallas.

i pararayed with victims' wives those tlifepolice officers that. i have a big heart for police officers. but we're all human and some make good judgment calls and some make bad judgment calls. sometimes in some situations cops make bad calls, but we need them desperately in our communities and i want to encourage anyone that's watching, do not, do not attack police. we need them in our communities. do not attack officers. don't burn down your communities. we need help and we need to build a better relationship with officers. >> pastor, thank you so much. well said. >> thanks for joining us. >> appreciate it. >> it's a pleasure. >> there is a prayer rally going on under way right now in milwaukee and hopefully there are some good outcomes from this and that a message just like the pastor just gave about the

treatment of law enforcement. >> here is a live look and that's near sherman park where this action unfolded overnight. i'll have more on that. devastating scenes like this unfolding right now in louisiana. another major story we're following. deadly floods leaving much of the state underwater. we've live on the ground straight ahead. >> plus, if duonald trump wants to beat hillary in november, frank luntz says he needs to do five things. mr. luntz joins us live with his advice for the republican nominee. that's next. what's it like to put your home in good hands? like having something fit you, just right, thank you randall. every stitch and seam of your home insurance, tailored to fit you and your budget. with unique features, like claim free rewards... ohh! customized home protection extra features all at an affordable price! i'm going to live in this. in means getting more from your home insurance with an expert allstate agent. it's good to be in, good hands.

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hi, everyone. if you're just waking up with us, it's a fox news alert. a devastating pak tour picture in milwaukee, wisconsin. this is the scene last night when violent rioters and looters set the bp gas station on fire along with several other local businesses. >> this after police killed a suspect running away from a traffic stop while carrying a stolen gun police later say carried 23 rounds. >> come on. >> police say the 23-year-old refused to put the gun down. that forced a 24-year-old officer to five. another suspect in the car is also in custody at this hour. >> you're going to be taking rocks in a second here. get behind the bare cad ricade least. cover your six.

secure your squad. >> throwing ricks bricks at one officer's head, setting fire to a gas station with people inside while chanting black power. there's a lot we don't know. we know three people have been arrested in the riot so far that has caused the wisconsin department of justice looking at footage taken from the officer's body camera. >> some elected officials have come out with police officers standing behind them at press conferences saying that, look, you're going to see more violence. you're going to see more violence. we have race problems in this city and there's a big downtown project under way and this one alderman, khalif rainey, the alderman in the seventh district, saying this downtown project could be in jeopardy and in flames as a result of the racial problems in the threaten down unless his demands are met. this man is a coward and a demagogue but he's right about

one thing. this stuff could spread. >> other alderman saying this is the result of the desperate feelings that folks have about the economy but i'm not sure how burning down a local bank branch, a beauty supply store, an auto parts store, burning down these businesses that could be employing the neighbors walking the streets and now can hardly recognize their blocks with the buildings remaining -- >> burning anybody's business, punishing the innocent is not justice ever. >> during the republican convention and right before that we heard from the trump campaign calling themselves the law and order candidates. in the wake of this violence, what should the trump campaign do to try to turn the ship around? the front page of "time" magazine calling it a meltdown for donald trump. frank luntz is joining us with five things he thinks donald trump needs to do to win. nice to see you this morning. >> pleasure. good morning. >> so what's the first one? if you were running the trump campaign what would you tell the candidate to do this morning? >> i'm going to step outside because of what happened last night and the very first thing i

would suggest is donald trump should go to milwaukee, and he should go to these communities and say to them, you're destroying your own lives. you're destroying our communities, your neighborhoods, your own places of work, your own businesses. why are you doing this? if you do not have justice, we will instill it. if you do not have security, we will provide it. if you do not have jobs, it's because of the last 7 1/2 years of this administration and we will change those policies. i will make a commitment to you in milwaukee. i will make a commitment in chicago. we will hold the mayors accountable for their failures. we will hold this administration and the secretary of state accountable for their failures, and we will make this change in milwaukee. we will start right here, right now. wisconsin is a key swing state. it's been voting democrat since 1988 but has voted republican. for him to go there and make that commitment, we know that the black community does listen to donald trump. they are interested in what he has to say. and this is his chance to make a difference in a community that is destroying their own lives,

destroying their own futures. that would be the first thing i would do. tucker, i have a list -- go ahead. >> you have a list of five things. obviously over the past two weeks donald trump has been talking about the second amendment. he's been talking about the media, he's been talking about fire marshals at some of his rallies. you mentioned hillary clinton, he should high lit hillary clinton's hypocrisies. how should he do that? >> i have to acknowledge i have been failing at this because your show is a show that he watches, and since he finished his republican convention and had that bounce, he was up two or three points, i have been offering these different ideas and they haven't been taken and his numbers have been deteriorating. the very first thing he does on monday is to go back to hillary clinton. she says one thing and does another. and that is the one thing that the american people truly resent and will not forgive from a politician. if they speak in a certain way and act in another. whether it is trade policy, whether it is tax policy, on social issues. hillary clinton was completely

different as a united states senator, even first lady, and in national security what she said then and what she wants to do now are totally different. show that. number two, you're a wealthy man. spend your money. the fact is they are out advertising the trump campaign, the clinton campaign is, in some cases by as much as 10 to 1 in these key swing states. you're proud. you boast of how significant your business success has been. okay. invest that money and do it in states like ohio, pennsylvania, and florida. i was watching the olympics last night, i saw two hillary clinton ads. how many ads did i see for donald trump? none. you can't tell me that the olympic viewer who is a slightly older than average viewer isn't someone they want to appeal to in the campaign. >> of course. >> where are you? third, wrap your campaign around accountability. it is the most important attribute that independent voters are looking for. it's not ideology or policy.

accountability, say what you mean, mean what you say, and hold the clinton and obama administrations accountable for their failures. two more. you have to have a day one agenda. you have to be able to communicate exactly what you're going to do in that first hour, that first 24 hours. and, frankly, what i would recommend is a forensic audit. the idea of taking the budget apart line by line, program by program, bureaucrat by bureaucrat. donald trump is the only person in this country who could actually balance the budget based on his business experience, but he's never talking about it because he's fighting over the second amendment and all these other issues. and, finally, which is something i haven't done in this segment, he needs to demonstrate he can listen. if you want to be the public's voice, you also have to be the public's ears and trump should open up his rallies to give people the opportunity to be heard. ask them what's on their minds. what frustrates them the most about washington, d.c., and then respond to that. if you give voters the chance to speak first, it changes the

entire tone of these rallierall. changes the tone of the campaign. and i'm still convinced if he does even half of these, he will reduce that polling deficit that he has right now and it's the right way to go into the debates. >> there's been that big piece in "the new york times," trouble in the trump campaign and that it's sputtering and he's not listening to his advisers or only half-heartedly. he says this is unfounded, that these unnamed sources are just fake sources and is even threatening to take away "the new york times" press credentials. would it help because of all the smoke rounding it and with his poll numbers dropping if he held a round table with some of his advisers while he's holding these listening sessions with voters? >> i'm less concerned about what he does with his vice eadvisers i'm totally concerned about what he does with the american people. the rallies are always him speaking at them. hillary clinton uses a teleprompter. donald trump rarely does so. he doesn't need to. he's not telegraphed.

he's not choreographed and there's an advantage to that, but if you really want to demonstrate to voters that you will be their voice, you have to listen to them. let them speak first. give them the chance to be heard and then articulate back exactly what you're going to do. it's a change in focus. it's what he talked about during the convention which is why he got that bounce. but he hasn't done it since then which is why he's come down in the polls. >> dr. frank luntz, famous pollster and all around political sage with advice to the campaign which seems wise to me. thanks a lot. good to see you. we return to the other major story. at least three people have died in louisiana as of this morning, thousands more like this woman and her dog are being rescued. >> oh, my god. i'm drowning. >> we're coming. >> we're coming. >> i'm going to break this window. >> we're breaking the window. >> we're live on the ground in louisiana next. plus, we're continuing to

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at least 1,000 across this area. people using boats and helicopters to pull residents out of their homes and their cars. one of those rescues was caught on camera. a woman and her dog were in their car when the car was quickly becoming submerged by water. take a look at what happened. >> oh, my god. i'm drowning. >> we're going to break the window. >> we're breaking the window. >> get my dog. >> her dog. >> get my dog. >> maybe she's done. >> no, she better not be. >> i got the dog. >> oh, you. >> just seconds from potential tragedy and that is why the governor has come out and continues to plead for residents

across this area to simply stay away, stay in a safe place, do not go out on the roads here. as you can see behind me, you can see that these roads are completely swamped. we have some guys coming out on a boat. they're searching throughout this area for any residents who are in their homes and looking forward they're expecting a lot more rain over the next 24 hours, so the governor continues to say we're not out of the worst of these storms yet. >> that's right, will. no one knows better than rick, not as much rain coming but still some problem spots? >> definitely more rain coming over the next four or five days but not like what we have seen with some spots over 30 inches but we will probably see isolated spots maybe another 6 to 8 inches. i think the worst of it will be west of where we're seeing the worst of it. this is this big thing called the bermuda high and it's driving the circulation. none of this moisture can budge through that one little spot right here in texas we're

watching and i will say that because by tuesday to wednesday, i think that disturbance will get back over to the centrsecen gulf. tuesday we'll see an increase in the rainfall, but today some of this moisture now being pulled up here along that high pressure and in across the central mississippi river valley and towards parts of the ohio valley. this has been the bull's-eye of the ring just to the west of new orleans. it's right around the baton rouge area we saw that 30-plus inches of rain and now we're going to see more rain. i think texas we could be looking at significant flooding this week and then right up here where you see these reds here, parts of illinois, indiana, missouri, and into ohio looking at maybe another eight inches and some of those spots have seen eight inches so flooding will be really widespread for the next number of days. >> grim. thanks for the honest assessment. after a night of fire and violence in milwaukee, how can the community come together to heal? dr. king, the niece of dr. martin luther king jr. joins us live next. , joins us

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the sun has risen to reveal a devastating picture after mayhem and chaos and destruction. this was the scene when violent protesters and looters set that bp gas station on fire along with other businesses. some of them shouted black power as they did. [ chanting "black power" ] >> we will bring in the niece of martin luther king jr.

she is also a fox news contributor. good morning. thank you for the opportunity. it reminds me of the 1960s. it is the same thingment they chanted black power and when my uncle was shot the cities tried to go crazy. we ended up with remembering peace -- i'm asking people to step back and pray first and then act. i'm asking for all of the leaders to not panic, all of the leaders of this great country. in milwaukee -- >> so in april of 1968 your uncle was murdered and a good

portion of american cities went up in flames. what should our political leaders say outload to pout lou prevent it happening again. >> hi father said rather turn to god and pray. you know, this is still great. it needs to be a lot better. we need to stop killing people because of skin color. i have friends of every ethnic group. we must have reason. with sanity, pair and power calm the people down. we need this law enforcement.

you can't send them in and lock up something in our house. we need to pray and come up with solutions. i pray for the families in milwaukee. black lives absolutely matter. john 3:16 says the world matters. so we have got to stop it. if i sound like i'm a little agitated, i am. we can pray and we can find solutions. >> amen, well said. we appreciate you joining us with your thoughts. >> four minutes before the temperature of the hour. we have more right after this break. don't go any where. ♪ gaviscon is a proven heartburn remedy

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log on to fox and friends for after the show. >> the after show. good morning. violence erupting on the street of milwaukee. good morning everyone. thanks for joining us. welcome to sunday morning futures. the mayhem coming after police shot and killed a suspect reportedly running away from a traffic stop with a