network. sheriff david clark is going to join us on donald trump's message to win over african-american voters. that's 9:00 p.m. to noon on the fox business network, "varney and company." "the five" is next. hello. everyone i'm dana perino. it's 5:00 in new york city and this is "the five." if you didn't think it was possible, another twist in hillary clinton's e-mail scandal. colin powell breaking his silence on the matter, saying she's trying to make him the fall guy. as you may recall, clinton has thrown around his name in defense of her use of a private e-mail server. >> secretary powell has admitted he did exactly the same thing. he had such a distinguished record, you know. i have served my country as well. we both did the same thing. we know colin powell had a private e-mail account. just recently colin powell

e-mails were retroactively classified from more than ten years ago. as he said, that was an absurdity, i could not agree more. >> she reportedly told the fbi that he suggested she use the e-mail account in the first place. powell was quoted as saying clinton's people have been trying win it on me. the truth is she was using the private e-mail server for a year before i sent her a memo telling her what i did. this of course raises new questions as to whether or not clinton lied as to who advised her to set up the server in the first place. i feel a feeling powell was like no more mr. nice guy. >> it makes sense that she's putting this all on a guy named colin because she's so full of crap. you know what he reminds me of? you know when you're in line at

the checkout and there's a fight at the checkout line and the person is -- like, looks at you for back-up and you're like i'm out of it, stay out of it. do not pin it on me. you never pin a good thing on someone. even colin knows that this is a bad thing and he's like i'm not getting the blame for this. this is on you, lady. and why do you have to keep bringing me up. it's not fair. but the big story about this is the story was broken by "people" magazine. this wasn't the "new york times" or the "washington post." that means that the new woodward and bernstein were writing about the kardashian's behind all the time. >> and they happened to get a scoop. >> in the hamptons. >> the cool kids have a name for this. they say keep my name out of your mouth. this is colin powell essentially telling hillary clinton keep my name out of your mouth. a huge distinction here and hillary clinton said it. colin powell had a private e-mail account. she had private e-mail servers

operating from her home. that's very, very different. furthermore, the whole he did it too argument, to me that's the opposite of leadership. to the extent there were some similarities at all, that's just a lame copout by hillary. >> she was trying to basically use him as a shield. >> she's trying to do everything. advice to mrs. clinton, stop with the e-mails, forget it, just start eating it. don't start blaming other people. you hear what we found out today? the fbi found 15,000 additional -- not the 30,000 that they scrubbed already, 15,000 additional e-mails that she never admitted to having and now as we are working through these, i have some ideas here i know we're going to get to in a bit. >> baby pictures. >> this is unbelievable. no baby pictures and so far no yoga plans or wedding plans. >> kimberly, when it comes to what she told the fbi and what now we are hearing what colin powell said, can they re-open this and look back and say maybe i was wrong?

>> whoever came up with pin the tail on colin powell was ill advising hillary clinton because now they set themselves up for the greatest slam dunk perjury case of all time. he's always more reserved about things. he said, okay, it's enough for me already actually and it is distinguishable what secretary powell did at the time versus secretary clinton because he used a commercial e-mail address to discuss personal matters with family and friends and did not put state department business on a personal or commercial e-mail address. he complied in terms of the information that was relayed to protect national security. what you've seen here is hillary clinton making a mockery of national security and it's all about yoga mats and downward dogs but you know what, people know the truth and the difference about what matters and take our national security seriously don't find her funny. >> there's a huge difference between e-mail use in 2002 and

when she became secretary of state in 2009. we didn't have blackberries until well after 9/11. you're trying to find behind a secretary of state who's usually diplomatic. >> you remember when your mom used to say just because billy says jump off a bridge doesn't mean you have to. this is what she's doing, he did it first. it is the most primitive -- >> it's also dishonest. she u he used the e-mails for state department business. >> and he didn't delete them out the door. >> she's ruining her reputation or doing her best to, being reckless, a loose relationship with the truth and they should take the matter back. >> he's 79 years old and saying enough of that. one of the things that people are looking at is the clinton global initiative. there was news on that over the weekend and donald trump called

on them to stop it. >> number one, they should shut it down. number two they should give the money back to a lot of countries that they shouldn't be taking money from, countries that influenced her totally. and also, countries that discriminate against women and gays and everybody else. that money should be given back. they should not take that money. >> also today, eric, bill clinton saying that he will step down if she becomes president, but at this point -- i guess the foundation did what it was supposed to do. >> here's what they're signaling. they're saying hurry up and get your donation in before november. if you want influence get it in now and watch the donations come pouring in before this potentially -- event where he can no longer be a part of it. quid pro quo. some of the 15,000 e-mails, we found out the crown prince of bahrain wanted a meeting with the secretary of state. he was told to wait. he dropped $26 million to the clinton foundation, gets the meeting with the secretary of state. there's a british footballer who

got in trouble for doing something in england, wanted to meet with the secretary of state also. a donation helped make that happen or at least opened the door to where eventually they got to work some things out with the state department. we already knew about the $145 million that went into the clinton foundation. that was just after the secretary of state, hillary clinton, okayed a deal to sell 20 to 25% of u.s. uranium production to the russians. think about this. these are textbook business school quid pro quos. >> pay for play. >> even worse. until james rosen today asked the question at the state department. did you hear that question? >> there's an e-mail in one of those 15 thou,000 e-mails, goinm the clinton foundation operative to cheryl mills. the e-mail says, hey, can you ask our boss if she can do this, meaning clinton foundation, hillary clinton, boss, state department.

she can't have both of those titles. she can't. and that exposes them. >> but she did. >> her campaign manager, robbie mook, tried to answer some of y >> we have republicans in congress and right wing groups doing everything they can to try to make something out of nothing here. the fact is that at every juncture the foundation has gone above and beyond what is usually in place in terms of ethics and rules for a foundation like this. when president bush, the second president bush came into office, you never heard people asking questions about his family's foundation, which was a very similar situation and members of his family remained on the board of their foundation while he was president. so what we're just asking for is for people to take a fair look at the situation. >> taking a fair look, greg, laura bush, the former first lady, was not then serving as the secretary of state. >> how do you know that? i don't think there's any records of that. >> there are no records of that? >> they were actually thrown out. look, my question is where does this go from here?

i don't think the media is doing quite the job they're supposed to in this arena of looking at the clinton foundation or the clinton global initiative which is egi which is interesting because it's special effects to alter reality. the only way this is going to come apart is at the debate because trump will have to force her to answer the questions that the media doesn't because so far in this game of whack amole, the mole hasn't shown up. you can't hit the mole because it's never there, but on the debate, the mole is going to have to come up. >> the mole is tracked on the stage. >> former mayor of new york, rudy giuliani and a reporter of trump's kimberly basically said the clinton globe al initiative he used the word bribery. will that factor into fbi consideration or water under the bridge? >> as a former mayor but as a former prosecutor who's investigated and prosecuted racketeering and rico violations and he's saying what we saw here, this level of corruption

is so overt that it rises to the same level and would warrant a very thorough and fair investigation and potentially indictment. >> under rico? >> that's what i just said. that's what he's saying. he thinks there is definitely a case to be made for it but you don't see them climbing over themselves to properly investigate it. if it were anybody else but the clintons, they would be -- >> there is further information, ebony, that the justice department having seen all this information heard from the fbi repeatedly has said there's nothing to see here at the global initiative. everything is fine and let it go. >> to break it down, dana, the clinton foundation, they've done great work and that's important to note but you know about this legal doctrine, fruit of the poisonous tree. that's really big here. >> what is the fruit of the poisonous tree? >> don't eat it. when it goes through corruption

even if it's doing good work or good will or it's valuable, it's corrupt, tainted and therefore it can't be used the same way. >> even if you built a bunch of clinton water wells in africa it doesn't matter? >> that's right. all that good stuff that the clinton foundation has done, the method in which you've gotten those resources is so foul and corrupt and horrible that we have to take that into consideration. that's very important. >> it's like the drug king pin opening up a playground for the kids over there. it's a similar example. but also, charity navigator, that's a website that issues -- it scores different charities. in 2015 they backed out and they said we can't even attempt to rate the clinton foundation anymore because there's no transparency. >> i think we did that story. we never knew it would get to be this big. >> i have a hunch if you continue with these e-mails you'll find more of a lack of transparency. >> we're going to move on.

before we go, the judicial watch who's filing all these lawsuits, bringing all this information, the judge said that the clintons have until october 14th to -- they must submit to questions by october 14th. and the judge says she has, guess what, 30 days in which to answer which would put it beyond the general election. >> unbelievable. donald trump's been making changes to his campaign as the general election nears and is he walking back his hard line on illegal immigration? you'll hear from the republican nominee himself when "the five" returns. >> he's here?

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one of my favorites of all time. last week donald trump admitted he had regrets about things he said this election cycle. is he now trying to soften his stance on a signature issue of his campaign? had a meeting with hispanic leaders over the weekend. the republican nominee reportedly indicated he would find a way to legalize undocumented immigrants. this morning on fox news, trump insisted his immigration policy is not changing. >> we have to be very firm. we have to be very, very strong

when people come in illegally. we have a lot of people that want to come in through the legal process. it's not fair for them. and we're working with a lot of people in the hispanic community to try to come up with an answer. >> so you're not flip-flopping? >> no, i'm not flip-flopping. we have to come up with a fair and firm answer. >> his new campaign manager, however, left the door open. >> what he supports is to make sure that we enforce the law, that we are respectful of those americans who are looking for well paying jobs, and that we are fair and humane for those who live among us in this country. as the weeks unfold, he will lay out the specifics of that plan that he would implement as president of the united states. >> will that plan include a deportation, the kind that you just heard in that sound bite and that he talked about during the republican primary? >> to be determined. >> t.b.d. dana, how about the messaging there. you have the candidate, the

nominee, saying that in fact he's going to not change the position et cetera, but then we've got information saying that he will and his campaign manager, a little bit of a different message. >> we thought we were going to get more information because what dana bash was asking kelly an conway was is he going to lay this out on thursday at a speech in colorado where he's going to be speaking and she says to be determined. then we find out today he's no longer going to be giving a speech on immigration. he's just going to do a fundraising event in colorado which is an important state for him to try to win. so i think -- i don't know. when i listen to him on "fox & friends," i feel like he still left the door open for changes, but then he doesn't want people that supported him for his earlier stance about deporting possibly up to 11 to 12 million illegal immigrants who have been in the country for a period of time who came here illegally but have been here for a while so-called in the shadows, i

don't know what his position is. >> eric, how do you reconcile it and he's saying i want to be fair to the people who stand in line and wait and follow the law and comply with the legal requirements for citizenship in this country? >> look, i don't know how he does it. right now the two things he has to do if he becomes president, he has to build a wall, he can't back off on that, and he has to get mexico to pay for it. those are two things he can't -- there's no wiggle room in those. as far as the deportation, he said it with morning joe and mika a few months ago, several months ago, i don't know if he can turn on it. maybe he can, i'm not sure. maybe he can say i've been advised by kelly ann conway and some of the other advisers that this is the way we need to soften it but he may risk his base because his base loves the idea of deporting all 12 million people who are here illegally. i'm not sure how you do that politically. i will tell you though, it shouldn't overshadow what happened last week.

last week he had an african-american outreach that was probably one of the best pivots i've ever seen in politics where he's having a hard time with african-americans, no doubt, and he goes to michigan, and he makes this speech saying what the hell -- why not give me a try, what could possibly -- >> what do you have to lose. >> what do you have to lose. he should do that in every city. like detroit -- >> but to black people, not just the white people. >> right. i think that's who he's talking to. go the cleveland, go to the cities where african-americans have had 50 years in these cities and the unemployment is higher. he has a chance to make changes and pivot towards more diversity. >> greg, you've talked about this before when you pointed out that there are democrats in charge of so many of these failing cities with liberal policies which have not produce economic growth when you look at detroit and chicago, et cetera -- >> cleveland, all those. >> you're pivoting away from the story. >> that's funny, greg.

>> answer all of it. >> no, no, i'm not answering any of it. i'm going to stick to what kelly ann conway said which was she gave the trump campaign a new slogan, to be determined. that's exactly what this campaign is, to be determined, and that is not a criticism by the way. because he glides from event to event with impulsive opinions, every promise that he makes is actually a negotiation position. he says this thing and then he goes, maybe i'll change my mind. if you actually believed that he was going to deport 11 million people, that's on you. you probably believe that was ryan lochte's original hair. the fact is there was no possible way he was ever going to do it. he was feeding his hungry base which has always been his problem. he should have stopped feeding them and started an outreach to the hispanics. by the way, i'm glad he met with a group of hispanics. i hear it was one of the first times he didn't ask them to mow his lawn, so that was good. >> i want to say this, something i think is very important here.

i applaud your point, greg, i applaud the trump campaign for taking a step back and trying to figure out something that's in their words fair but firm. what's not okay is how we evaluate that. trump doesn't get to say now i want to take something that considers a possible way for some of these immigrants to get into america and that be considered firm and fair and the other side to say that's amnesty. that's amnesty light. stop demonizing when people want to take a step back and look at it from a reasonable standpoint. >> right now he has more positions than the karma sue tra on immigration and it's okay. that's his thing. it's about negotiation. >> name one position. >> stop it. >> told me not to. >> he doesn't know. ahead, president obama will visit flood ravaged baton rouge tomorrow but what took him so long? he is under fire for hitting golf balls while louisiana got

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politically motivated criticism that the president faced. >> louisiana's governor john bel edwards said he didn't tell the president not to come but recommended he visit once recovery efforts had begun. the governor offered praise for donald trump for changing his plans to tour the state on friday. >> was it a good thing that he came down? >> i think, yeah, for the reasons that i stated earlier because it helped to shine a spotlight on louisiana and on the dire situation that we have here that it was helpful. >> so ebony, also the lieutenant governor was on tv today saying he was happy donald trump came. he would have welcomed president obama had he come prior to this just to get the eyeballs on the area, and he said in many cases in many reasons that this is worse than katrina because of the vastness of the flooding. >> yeah. i was in louisiana during katrina, eric, and certainly this area that got hit is not used to and accustomed to this type of flooding so that made it very different. a lot of people were questioning i saw over the weekend trump's

motivations. is he doing this for a photo op. we see now that the governor said thank you for coming. i actually don't care, eric, about the purity of donald trump's intentions on this. here's why. he'll be accountable to that to someone far greater than me and you. what's important is that eyeballs were on louisiana because this story has been overshadowed by the olympics and everything else that's going on. my first husband who's a mother of three, all of her contents of her home are on the front yard right now. it's important that trump went and it's important that president obama -- he should have went. i'm glad he's going tomorrow but he should have gone. here's the reason why. it's good that he's been on the phone and operating behind the scenes but when you are the leader, people follow your lead. when you show concern and you're visibly around this issue, it

ups the ante to the level of awareness and participation of the people affected. >> dana, your thoughts, the lieutenant governor says something that people may not have realized, trump also left a sizable donation. >> if he left a sizable donation, again, if that was because he was doing it out of his heart and we don't know about it, that would be a good thing which means he wasn't doing it for political purposes and i won't do it either. i think there should be a statute of limitations on scoring political points about hurricane katrina. i know the white house was asked about it today, swipes at bush. it was a tragedy, catastrophic. far be it for me to point out that the democratic governor and democratic mayor were incompetent from the beginning. president bush said he shouldn't have flown over. overall fema performed better now than they did ten years ago,

now 11 years since hurricane katrina. that should be the thing about government. i'm not worrying about scoring political points on this one. >> greg, should we not be leading this segment with president obama still on the golf course? >> i don't think so because i often ask myself would we do this story if it didn't have a political bent. of course, i wonder how many people still think about that child in syria that we talked about last week. a large portion probably didn't -- >> we showed the picture an hour ago. sad. >> it is sad but my point is this. unless the story bears political fruit, sometimes people in the media don't cover it. there are some interesting facts about this story. a major hurricane hasn't hit the u.s. gulf or the east coast in like a decade according to the "washington post." when they do hit, they tend to be worse because there are more people concentrated in areas. ironically, the good point that they haven't happened makes people less ready when they do. >> that's right. >> if you talk about the facts, it's actually more interesting and more helpful maybe. >> yes, but let me play a little

devil's advocate on that point there. the governor and lieutenant governor were both happy trump came. >> the right thing to do. the right thing to do is to go there and to see what's going on. i think anybody who would go and see the devastation and the families displaced and everyone's lives affected and what the churches are doing to help people, you would probably be moved if you had money to make a donation. there is just really no substitute for going there in person and seeing and feeling and breathing and smelling the devastation of the flooding. it's horrible and the people that are just -- their whole lives are erased like someone hit the delete button. it's very, very difficult. the president should have gone there. the whole world knows it and even liberal cartoons are putting stuff out there of him playing golf. >> madam secretary wants to be president and has a lot of money

at your disposal, the clinton foundation, new orleans, the people of louisiana, baton rouge, maybe they open up the coffers of the clinton foundation for people down south. >> to dana's point and to the extent i believe that george w. bush should have come to louisiana, this is an opportunity for president obama to learn from that. that's okay, it's okay to say -- >> the only thing about president bush going is should he have gone on that day. we could get political and talk about the fact that the naacp for example has just stripped out support of all charter schools. that's part of its platform now. rebuilding new orleans was not just about the levies but the entire city. the catholic school rehabilitation and the charter school thing. >> there's a part of all that. i'm not saying it needs to be political but i'm saying -- i think you just said, looking back on it the flyover was not good. >> on that particular day, no. >> on that particular day. i'm saying president obama

should look at that part of history and learn something from that just like that wasn't the best choice. >> he did when he was running for office the first and the second time. >> in a way that matters to people, it seemed like a missed opportunity. >> they're wrapping us. i'll give you one more, madam secretary. how about sending some money from the clinton foundation to the people of louisiana. still to come, bad news for american swim ear ryan lochte after his rio robbery story unraveled. details ahead. ♪ americans are buying more and more of everything online. and so many businesses rely on the united states postal service to get it there. because when you ship with us,

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voting rights for felons. that's weird. the key word there is then. it links both issues, that if you want black votes, why would you stop felons from voting? the implication is that blacks and felons are one in the same. the subtle racism by the media where any reference to crime is a black thing, not just a human thing. imagine using this bigoted headline in other ways. clinton wants jewish vote, then slams greedy bankers. gary johnson courts the irish but con demps heavy drinking. trump appeals to hispanics and calls illegals rapistrapists. actually, that happened with trump when he conflated mexico and illegals. how is this any different? when it's mainstream liberalism, it's thoughtful, which explains why so many cities under

thoughtful liberal rule are near ruin. if you view crime as a racial thing and not a human thing, any act to solve it is seen as racial, which hurts the law-abiding folks who don't see race in crime. they just see their lives made worse by those who find politics in their pain. imagine, eric, if fnc ran a radical like that. >> that would be terrible. can i take exception to one comment in your monologue there when you said trump said his campaign launch about all illegals. i'm not sure he said all. otherwise, that would be like 9.6 million rapists and murders. >> but the way he said it is conflated. i'm not saying he meant it. i'm saying he conflated it. >> was this a tweet? >> a headline. >> a headline piece? >> yeah. it was still up there as i was writing it. >> they should probably retract

that. they did? >> i don't know if they did. when i wrote it it was still up. maybe on sunday when they do -- is it reliable sources? brian seltzer can do an hour on this headline. >> there you go. you've already done the rundown for him. >> and it's only monday. >> that is true. so? got anything? >> i do. so i don't like the headline. but i'll say this, as a criminal defense lawyer, there is an intersection though, greg, of race and crime and the law and how that all intersects. the truth is we know that certain laws do adversely effect and disproportionately affect the black community, but the majority of disenfranchised felon voters in this country are white. so it's actually just wrong accurately. >> right. >> you know, it's problematic. it would be absolutely problematic if it was the other way around. it's true, we need to look and be need to be very careful i think is the lesson for everybody here. the language, because what we say matters and how we say it

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the 2016 summer olympics games came to a close last night in rio as one of the u.s. athletes had a fabricated robbery controversy. >> if i didn't overexaggerate the story and if i told the entire story, none of this would have happened. >> in a televised interview ryan lochte apologized directly to the people of brazil. the fallout for the swimmer continues here at home. he lost two huge sponsors today, speedo and ralph lauren. tmz caught up with him later. >> are you going to consider -- >> i don't know. i can't answer that question right now.

>> speedo, you know, has dropped you and they released a statement about it. what are you going to be wearing in the pool going forward? >> i heard about that and, you know, it stinks. speedo was great to me. they were like a second family throughout my swimming career. you know, i guess it's a new chapter now. >> okay, so during that, dana was like, for what, right, why is he going to go to aa? apparently he admitted that he was still intoxicated when he gave the interview the following morning so i think a lot of people are reading a lot into that. but what i'm concerned about is he blamed this whole debacle on, quote, immature behavior. we know ryan lochte is 32 years old, i am as well. i just feel like that's, come on, don't give a bad rap -- >> you can be 32 and be immature. you can, you would never be. you could. i think when you do something wrong in most situations there are consequences, especially if you are at your employer or with your sponsors, so he's paid a

price. he's also, i think he's pretty sincere in his apologies. maybe tomorrow we can let this one go? >> is this blowinggo? >> is this blowing this whole thing out of the water -- >> nope, nope. listen, when you sign up no these endorsements, this is a free market at work. when you sign up either it's written or unwritten there is a responsibility on your part not to do things like getting really wasted, ripping posters down when you're drunk with your friends. you don't do that or you risk other things like going to jail. >> and the lying about it. >> so the lying about it. the usa today may have a little more backing on what he actually said. clearly he put his hair back to the original color and eaten it, taking full responsibility for the swim mers, somebody is doin damage control right now. but the free market will take away endorsements, who is waiting in the wings?

nike or underwear to get that bathing suit in his hands to sign for the 20 olympics. >> so he lost big dollars today, but moving forward will he be in the position to get that back and rebrand himself and move to 2020? he intends to keep swimming, even if they put together an investigative committee, will this hurt him or will he come back? >> he will totally come back from it. this is the story now, very sorry obviously, young guys like that, he has been training a long time to do the olympics, there is a lot of personal sacrifice, i get the whole blowoff team, this is why you have to travel with security. don't get your security when you're at that level, because they're going to be like okay, that's it. get you back to the hotel. enough is enough, we don't need

anymore like embarrass america stuff. he is obviously trying to deal with it. crisis control, a little bit of reputation management. the reason they talk about rehab, they say when they have a personal crisis go to rehab to like clean it up and attribute it to that. i don't know if he will do that. he is like i can't really answer that question right now. >> great point, i'm skeptical on this, everybody is like he really is sorry. i don't know that i believe he is really sorry, here is why. the language, i ove over-exaggerated. i mean, for me, it's better if you lie. >> the problem over-exaggerate, how do you do that? it's like i'm only going to dig half a hole. better that speedo drop you than you drop them -- >> but the interesting thing is, why did speedo need endorsements? like there is no pepsi in the spe speedo world, it's either speedo

or none, you're either an olympic swimmer wearing one or a fat german tourist at the beach wearing one. >> now you have done it. you got germany again. >> one more thing up next. no man ♪ ♪ ♪ ♪ can inflate me.

time now for one more thing, greg. >> all right, time for something new. here it is.

with greg gutteld, known for knowing hundreds of words in sign language and all sorts of stuff, actually joined flee from the red hot chili peppers, i don't know if we'll have tape here or you will just stare at me for a while. >> all right, as most people -- musicians know, this is a vast improvement over the red hot chili peppers -- >> you should do the story and go no, because gutfeld is going to say -- the ape is 45 -- red hot chili peppers, poor man's space no more, don't ever forget it. >> kind of debate on this one, i just want to say one more thing about the olympics and that is

about the refugee team. this is a team that it was the first time they ever created. created from four countries, ethiopia, syria, congo, and south sudan, they came together and competed and did not win medals but did get a nice bit of applause at the closing ceremony. i just want to wish them very well as they continue on. kimberly. >> thank you very much. this is so important, dna, you're going to love it. so a soldier was awarded the marine corps medal, earlier this month, regarding ten americans. she was the only female among the two crews of the navy marine boats that entered the iranian waters and anyway, managed to activate the emergency beacon, while she was bound and held, which then signalled the americans that they were in

trouble and then turned it off. she was a number two gunner on the second boat in the incident and the military said she sayed extraordinary encourage regarding safety. all right, good for her. >> while i was being lame all day, here it is, 13 out of 15 dogs would prefer good boy vocal praise over a treat. and that is not the headline of the story, the headline of the story is this story was conducted by emory university, one of the best in the country, and they took five years to come up with this result. >> actually, my dog likes to lick my feet instead of get treats. >> so i'm guest hosting for alan coombs, this is a cute story, a 9-year-old from louisiana, mom save my had birthdbirthday mone

money to donate to the flood victims. instead, they bought pizza from a local restaurant and gave out almost 400 pizzas to the flood victims. >> amazing, wonderful. and join us right here to tune in. that's it for us. new developments on the numerous fronts as the clinton e-mail scandal, and a call for a perjury charge heats up. this is "special report." good evening, welcome to washington, i'm bret baier. we're following several big stories tonight. authorities uncover 15,000 pages of previously unreleased hillary clinton work-related e-mails. some of them are sparking new questions about the relationship between clinton's top aides when she was secretary of state and the clinton foundation. the level of interaction is