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number of times it was done, require an expedited investigation by a special prosecutor, immediately, immediately, immediately. >> in moments we'll be this is a fox news. >> lert. we given with trace ghallager at our breaking news desk. o is at k to walk us through the new details. >> the associated press tried to get these documents three years ago but ran into a series of
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delays and eventually had to sue the state department in federal court. after finally receiving calendars and schedules they focused on people not associate the withed u.s. or foreign governments. of the 154 people from private interests who met or had phone conversations with then-secretary clinton, 85 of them gave to the clinton foundation for a combined total of $156 million. at least 40 of those people donated more than 100,000 each. 20 gave more than a million. there doesn't appear to be anything illegal about the donations, but as many point out, it certainly propagates the idea that getting a one-on-one with the secretary of state was going to cost you. the clinton campaign says it relies on flawed data. it cherry picked a limited
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subset of data to give a distorted portrayal. br bill clinton says if his wife wins, he would step down from the foundation and it would no longer accept money from foreign groups or u.s. companies. the trump campaign says the pledge is simply exploiting a corporate loop-hole and would not affect donations to smaller charities tied to the clintons. here is mike pence. >> they're saying they can make a down payment between now and election day. the american people are not having any of it. >> experts point out that 6,000 donors have already given the clinton foundation some $2 billion, which, if she is elected, could lead to future potential conflicts. megyn. >> trace, thank you. joining us with more, reince priebus, chairman of the
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republican national committee. good of you to be here. your thoughts on whether it's time for a special prosecutor in this case and your proposal for getting around a clearly reluctant justice department which would be needed to have one. >> well, clearly the doj can't investigate itself. the fbi recommended an investigation of corruption in the clinton foundation. they declined to do it. look, she's selling her time. she was selling her time as secretary of state. so the question for the -- >> our time. our time. she was on the clock for us. >> right. that's right. i mean, so the question for the court is, and you're a lawyer, is it legal to sell time as a secretary based on the size of a donation to a private foundation controlled by that secretary of state? that's what she was doing. it's clear she was selling her time. >> you say it's very clear. correct me -- there is an inference of it. there isn't the smoking gun.
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there is the uma abedin e-mail to the crown prince of bahrain about him saying, all right, she accepts an invitation from the clinton foundation head to get that guy a meeting. she's like, okay, i got it. i'll take care. >> right. >> their point is, look, she met with a lot of people. some happened to have had dealings with the clinton foundation. and to suggest it's untoward or pay for play is unsupported. >> well, i mean, you have to put the pieces together. it took them three years to get these e-mails out there in the public. and everything points to the fact that she had people like brand and huma abedin working as go-betweens, she was employed by the clinton foundation and the state department. they took anywhere from $21 million and $65 million from countries in the middle east who have horrible records against women and gays and everyone in between. she helped an owner of a soccer team on a visa, so he gave money to the clinton foundation to
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take care of the visa problem. i would say you have a pretty good advocate for a visa problem if you could get the year of the secretary of state to take care of your problems. >> this is an abuse of power. it was corrupt and an abuse of the power with which she was imbued. she used it to help her state, her foundation. >> she used it to help herself. they were lining their own pockets the whole way through. following up and giving speeches for hundreds of thousands of dollars. what's also interesting is, look, now bill clinton is saying, well, in hillary clinton becomes president we'll step down from the clinton foundation. how is that much different than being secretary of state? i mean, not to mention the fact that they were using a private, secret server to conduct the business that she is now -- that she tried to hide from us in -- in regard to all of this information. let alone giving awa secrets. >> of course. the question is whether it's going to matter to the voters. look, hillary clinton's problems with the e-mails and even with
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the clinton foundation have, to some extent, been outed already in the public. yet still we've seen a race, mr. chairman, in which donald trump is not succeeding right now. that the real clear politics average of all polls has him down 5.5 points. missouri poll shows them neck and neck. mitt romney won the state by ten points. donald trump is down in texas. what's he doing there? states like texas and georgia, those are red states. his critics say he is playing defense in all of these states where he needs to be playing offense and she has got the better ground game. to all of that you say what? >> let me try to unwrap all of that real quick. number one, he is in texas because he is raising money just like hillary clinton is in california raising money. she was in cape cod raising money. she was obviously you have to go at times to fund-raise in places like dallas and houston. >> got it. >> southern california. and that's what they're doing.
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as far as the polling is concerned, there was also polls that showed that donald trump was ahead in iowa, he is ahead in nevada. yeah. he has got to be consistent. and i think they know that. i think that, if he continues to be measured, continues to be prepared, consistent like he has been. he has had a great week, i think the polls are going to narrow. and i do think that donald trump can do that, and i do think that the polls will narrow. back to the original part of this interview, if you had a special prosecutor and someone who was actually going to do their job and investigate whether or not there is corruption and do what you would expect our government to do in a situation like this, she is going to sink. and with -- with donald trump being more consistent and doing what he has been doing -- >> i got to ask you a quick question before i let you go. >> -- even potentially getting back ahead like he was after the convention. >> steve bannon taken over as the ceo of the campaign. a guy who doesn't think of much
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of your party and has suggested he'd like to destroy the whole thing according to a report yesterday in "the daily beast" suggesting he is a leninist, would like to take down the republican party. he doesn't like parties in general. you're the head of the republican party. what do you think of that? >> well, i never like unearned attacks. we've been both on the good side and the bad side of that particular website. but look, there is so much media out there, megyn. so many websites. >> you've seen breitbart, which thinks nothing of your party and the so-called party elite. you know that. >> listen, i am not a fan of some of the things that have happened but i don't think it's been totally one-sided. we've been on the receiving end of some good things from that website too. i think you have to judge people moving forward. i think so far, if you look at the way things have been going for the last several days, i think it's a continuation of donald trump staying on message, being disciplined.
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he is doing it again today. i think that's where he needs to be. >> reince priebus. great to see you, sir. thanks for being here. >> thank you, megyn. so do these new revelations about the clinton foundation meet the standard for the appointment of a special prosecutor? jonathan turly is a constitutional law attorney and george washington university law school professor. good to see you. do you see this as a problem? because, again, the clinton campaign is saying, once again, conspiracy theories. there is no there there. >> i don't think anyone can objectively look at the "associated press" report and not believe that there is a serious problem here. i mean, you have a great number of people that have business with the state department giving money to the foundation. some pretty disreparable people doing so. gaining what appears to be special access. then you have this revolving door or dual role in one case of someone who might have been employed by the foundation and state department at the same time which, by the way, is
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hugely stupid to have anyone in that role. this creates a foundations for what you have, a pay to play scenario. and i think that it deserves investigation. i think the "associated press" investigated as much as they could. they had to go to court to get the information. >> right. >> i don't see how anyone could deny that these are troubling d disclosures. >> the doj, they're not going to appoint a special -- you tell me. will they appoint a special prosecutor or will they do it themselves? >> the department of justice has a rather abysmal record. in the last few decades they've had a terrible record in terms of applying laws evenly to high-ranking people as they do to ordinary people. and i really don't think it's much of a record to brag about. so they've little credibility with some people when it comes to very powerful individuals.
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but more importantly, this investigation -- we only have roughly a little over 70 days to the election. this investigation will extend beyond election day. >> so it can't get done before november 8th. >> it very likely would not be. but then you would have some serious conflicts there, if in fact the next president is hillary clinton. that would tend to favor a special counsel. but more importantly, any investigation into the foundation -- and people of the fbi clearly indicated that they wanted to investigate aspects of the foundation, but any investigation will involve high-ranking officials and also foreign interests that are very important to the united states. i think the appearance alone says that the public interest would be served with the appointment of a special counsel. >> the odds of that happening are -- >> not high. >> probably not high to be charitable. professor turly, great to see you. >> thank you. tonight mrs. clinton's medical history back in the news
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today. dr. marc siegel is next on the health questions. good thing he takes insurance. before karl rove and mo elleithee join us on how this plays with voters. wait until you hear their take on hillary clinton's health issue. donald trump making news tonight about new remarks will softening his hard-line position on immigration. the fallout from that just ahead. >> is there any part of the law that you might be able to change that would accommodate those people that contribute to people that contribute to society, have been you found the love of your dreams... and together, people that contribute to society, have been you had the kid of your dreams. now you can put them in the car of your dreams... for a lot less than you might think. with a certified pre-owned mercedes-benz, you can enjoy legendary safety, innovation and performance at a price you can afford. and that's a pretty sweet dream. visit the certified pre-owned sales event, now through
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. developing tonight, the issue of hillary clinton's health back in the news today after the candidate addressed recent questions raised by donald trump, including ones like these. >> to defeat crime and radical islamic terrorism in our country, to win trade in our country, you need tremendous physical and mental strength and stamina. hillary clinton doesn't have that strength or stamina, believe me. >> clinton, who sustained a concussion as secretary of state, used a little bit of humor to dismiss trump's claims during an appearance last night on "jimmy kimmel live." >> take my pulse while i'm talking to you. >> okay.
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>> so make sure i am alive. >> oh my god there's nothing there. >> there's nothing there. what can i say. back in october, the "national enquirer" said i would be dead in six months. >> oh, boy. >> with every breath i take i feel like it's a -- >> you have a new lease on life. >> a new lease on life. i don't know why they are saying this. i think o on the one hand it's part of the whacky strategy. >> uh-huh. >> say all these crazy things and maybe you can get people to believe you. on the other hand it just absolutely makes no sense. i don't go around questioning donald trump's health. i mean, as far as i can tell he's as healthy as a horse. >> in addition to mrs. clinton's own defense, a number of major media outlets are now attacking anyone who attacks the health question as a healther. back to 2008 and what big-name journalists were saying about then 72-year-old senator john
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mccain. >> is mccain simply too old to get elected? >> it's john mccain's health we're talking about. he is running for the highest office in the land. his healths, with limits, becomes the public's business. >> this is a person who has had five different skin cancers, four melanomas. we found out today he had a squamous cell carcinoma as well. >> how concerned are doctors that the skin cancer may return? >> joining me now, dr. marc siegel, nyu professor of medicine and fox news medical correspondent. he was part of a team of professionals tapped to answer questions about john mccain's health. those journalists were right. we had a right to know about john mccain who wanted to be the commander in chief and we have a right to know about hillary clinton and donald trump, do we not? >> yes, we do. in 2008 we changed the bar and butt put it in a different place. we essentially said if somebody
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is around 70 and has significant health history we want to know. his last melanoma had been eight years before but 22 journalists looked over 1100 pages he released to a private viewing and reassured ourselves that he wouldn't have melanoma coming back soon. >> i remember when you did that. there was something about sun damage on his bottom. is that -- you can't unsee that once the image goes in your head. >> i thought for parity's sake after that we would get full records for people who are around 70. >> neither candidate has done it. she has released more than he has. he has a letter from some doctor harold bornstein who says trump will be the healthiest individual ever elected to the president. right, thank you. trump says my records show perfection. according to this guy, okay. so -- this is the situation in which we find ourselves. you tell me whether you've seen anything publicly which suggests
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to you she has some deeply concerning medical condition. >> i don't believe doctors should speculate. when we do that we undermine our own authority and in a way it's against our oath. if she has a significant history, like a fall in 2012 and a concussion and a blood clot outside the brain that she is now getting blood thinners on for life, i think it raises a question enough so that we'd want to see more of her records if she would release them. similarly, donald trump, being around 70, not sleeping well at night, eating a lot of junk food, he readily admits, i want to see his records as well. i think a team of doctors or media people should be able to get private showings of these records, same as we did in 2008, same as -- if you asked an accountant megyn. you said to an accountant, how are their taxes? the accountant would say, i can't tell you. look at the taxes. same with us. >> you want the evidence that form the basis of the conclusions to make up your own mind.
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>> absolutely. i don't see anything to doubt either of the candidates. i just want to see more information. >> dr. siegel. great to see you. look what he brought me from russia. he saw i was drinking coffee and decided to upgrade it for me. interesting choice. >> that's the best. >> thank you. ooh! thank you, dr. siegel. joining me now, karl rove, former deputy chief of staff under george w. bush and mo elleithee spokesman for hillary clinton's 2008 campaign. good to see you both. karl, it's interesting to see everybody come out and say, this john mccain, we have to get to the bottom of that. so many in the media have said, come on, lay off -- i agree when it comes to the fake medical reports that have been out there about her, but we are allowed to ask questions about her health. >> sure. and look, in previous elections i remember in 2000 we went through this exhaustive process with the "new york times" where we had to make available every health record of governor george w. bush of texas.
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they had to be looked at exhaustively by a fellow who had done this for 20-some years for the "times" and other physicians. it wasn't pleasant but it was part of the process. in 1996 bill clinton stiff-armed the "new york times" for months. we knew more about the health records of bob dole, world war ii veteran than we did about the baby boomer, bill clinton, but i think both candidates need to accept the fact that that kind of scrutiny -- i don't know if the "times" is now prepared to do it but it's necessary in the modern campaign. >> mo, do you agree? >> i think totally legit to want to look at the health records and background of candidates. that's totally something that voters rightfully ought to have information on. it's a legitimate question for them. having said that, it is not legitimate to be out there spreading false stories about a candidate's health that have no
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basis in reality or fact. >> there is some crazy far right-wing website that came up and apparently hillary clinton under her real doctor's name. the doctor came out and said they're totally false and bogus. you've had people out there like rudy giuliani saying she looks sick. google hillary clinton and health and you'll find -- your view on that? >> yeah. it's ridiculous. i agree with the doctor you just had on who said it does undermine the whole process. it undermines the way we look at this whole thing. i mean, the stuff that's coming out of not just far-right websites, the stuff that's coming out of -- not just out of trump's surrogates mouths, but even some of the things that the candidate himself is saying, i think, are really unfortunate and do a disservice to this whole conversation.
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donald trump, questioning her stamina, saying that she is not mentally or physically prepared or has the to do the job. look, donald trump, you've got a problem with hillary clinton. you have an issue with hillary clinton. you have plenty of issues to differentiate yourself on. do it that way. but to manufacture something about her health -- >> part of what's going on here, karl, you tell me, is that there have been questions, in particular after she had the concussion and she had the glasses on for the double vision, and some of the comments that were made back then that raised real questions about what had actually happened to her then. >> yeah. well, think about that. absolutely right. she has a concussion on the 13th of december. falls down, has a concussion, but we're not told about it until the 15th of december, two days later. we're told on the 25th that -- excuse me -- actually got this written down. >> on the health. white board. >> told on the 28th of december that she is going to be back to the office next week. on the 30th she is hospitalized
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with a blood clot but we are not told about it until the next day. >> two pages. >> she leaves the hospital on june -- january 2nd. on the 7th they say she is fully recovered and have a photo op. but she is not fully recovered. on the 23rd of january, 2013, she shows up at the benghazi hearing wearing prism glasses that help people who have suffered a concussion or traumatic brain injury get their vision right. she appears on "60 minutes" interview with president obama again with the glasses. it takes over two months for her to get rid of the glasses. in fact, the next year her husband, bill clinton says it was terrible, the concussion required six months of very serious work to get over. that's what he admitted a year later. so when people have -- i remember when president bush ate the pretzel and collapsed. we had to make every record available. we had to provide doctors in
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extremis to the press. when she misled the american people or people on her behalf did so about the seriousness of the concussion it does create questions. what trump says about is she up for the rigors of the presidency. people have made that argument back to thomas jefferson. that's in politics. both should come clean with the records. >> mo, would you like to respond to the triple white board? >> i didn't hear it all over the sounds of the black helicopters over the window. what i think i heard was karl repeating many of the things he said back in the day that he actually had to walk back, because a lot of it was -- wasn't right and wasn't true. and this is what i am talking about. >> this is absolutely true. the president -- the secretary of state -- >> karl, the insinuation.
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the insinuations that you are making there, the insinuations that donald trump are making -- there is very little difference between the two. >> i'm not insinuating anything. >> nobody can understand when you talk over each other. >> i am not insinuating anything. i am saying her people did not tell the american people the truth about her concussion. >> okay. >> and misled the people, delayed providing information. and then her husband admitted that it had taken her six months -- >> got it. got to leave it at that. we appreciate you doing the writing on your white board in something better than dr. scratch. >> i'll bring my next time too. >> whether the american people are persuaded is up to them. still ahead, a possible terror attack in virginia and the questions it's raising for the fbi. have you heard about this? kevin jackson hear about donald trump's trying to reach the black community. about his softening on the
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earthquake in italy. the quake had a magnitude of 6.1. we're getting images of the damage. the quake hit southeast of rome as people were sound asleep. the mayor on the streets says people are buried under the collapsed building and one family of our is trapped with out signs of life. he is quoted as saying the town isn't this anymore. people living in the historic center of capital rome reported hearing a lound sound and after shocks. in 2012, an earthquake killed dozens of people. and once again, a strong earthquake rattling central italy. at this point, there are reports
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of people being stuck in rubble of collapsed buildings. the death toll has been rising and there are reports of six people dead, four believed to be trapped in the rubble of their own homes, stay with fox news channel with more on the news out of italy. now, back to "the kelly file", already in progress. dismal. his numbers with hispanics are dismal. his numbers with women are dismal. there is an article in the "washington post" tonight talking about now he is now trying to sort of erase the impression that people have that he is, quote, racist, with all three of those groups. >> well, i think it's ridiculous that anybody would think that trump is racist. he's taking a stance that many americans believe. i actually think it's heartening to look at where trump will be in the next couple of weeks. because the outreach he's done in the black community, what he's now talking about with
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hispanics, even though these are not monolithic issues, i don't believe immigration is the only thing that hispanics are thinking about, but i think that the fact that he is reaching out and talking about the issues and giving it a deeper dive is interesting. i think what's more funny is watching the left have a conniption because they have had a monopoly on the black and latino vote for quite some time. now here is a republican who is able to reach them without the long arm of the media stopping him. i think it will be fun to watch. >> andell, he is reaching out not only to the hispanic community. already getting blow-block. ann coulter said the following over on msnbc. listen. >> how is it different from obama. >> how is it different from all the candidates he just beat? >> deport the felons. >> well, it's very different from the actual policy. but they all say that. and it just sounds very
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insulting. this could be the shortest book tour ever. >> she is basically saying i don't want to see that. the question is whether this might erode some of his core support with the base he's done such a good job of cultivating. >> actions speak louder than words, and when it comes to african-americans, black women are the leading group when it comes to college enrollment in this country. black men not that far behind. both ahead of trump's base of white males. we are more than poverty, crime and violence, and that seems to be all trump can address when he's talking about black people. we're not lining the gutters of america waiting for trump to save us. we're doing fine, and we're making progress on our own. he needs to have a better pitch than you're doing so bad, how much worse can it get. we need him to tell us what he's going to do and address the issues. >> he was talking about yesterday -- he said what the hell do you have to lose to the black community. you have to give him some credit
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for reaching out to these groups. >> that's the best he could come up with? >> he's trying. >> megyn, great sound bite. >> trump -- participation trophy. >> he's exactly right. he is exactly right. the democrats have effectively ruined the black community. look, there are a lot of things going on that are great in the black community. >> what is he going to do to fix it? that's the question. >> the problem is, when you talk about things like black neighborhoods, you shouldn't even be saying things like black neighborhoods, black schools. we all know what that implies. these are the worst of the worst. when we look at criminality, jobs. it's all bad, it's you will under obama and all in big cities run by democrats. trump is right to bring it to the fore. blacks receive the democrats are the sacred cows. trump is actually making an impact.
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>> the poll of the trump campaign shows he has an opportunity. >> he doesn't care about black people's votes. >> the internal polling appears to show there is some room with the african-american voters because many are dissatisfied -- >> donald trump has nothing. >> have to go. great to see you. key question in the race is this. with 76 days left, 76, can you believe that? i know. and hillary clinton holding a lead in the swing states, what does mr. trump need to do to catch her? is it historically possible? some answers next. plus, a possible terror attack in virginia by a man who was on the fbi's radar for months. have you heard about this? we'll investigate how this happened in moments. >> as far as we can tell, there was no connection between the victims and the suspect. they had never seen him before. it appears to us to be a random ♪
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from the world headquarters of fox news, it's "the kelly file," with megyn kelly. >> breaking tonight, 76 days to go until the 2016 election. and hillary clinton is ahead of donald trump by more than 5 points in the real clear politics average of national polls. plus a new poll from virginia he democratic nominee with a 19-point lead in a state where the two candidates were tied just three months ago. joining me now, the publisher and co-founder of the best website on the internet. real clear politics.com, tom bevan. great to see you. 19. the bottom line is, if she can win virginia and north carolina, he can win florida and ohio, and he could still lose. >> correct. i mean, i think for trump it all starts and ends in florida. if he can't win florida, it's over. beyond that he has to win -- he has to keep north carolina and the republican column, which mitt romney did barely in 2012 and has to win ohio and
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pennsylvania. that the get him there. he doesn't have to win virginia necessarily. look, we are seeing clinton's lead in some of the states balloon. virginia, colorado. pennsylvania is over 9% in our average there. florida and ohio are now in the 5% range, clinton leads. >> but that's -- that's actually -- that provides some of the context of what we have been discussing in the show. which is an evolving donald trump on certain issues and a softening on some of his core positions in an attempt to reach out beyond that core base which he points out would never leave him even if he shot somebody in the middle of fifth avenue. that's what's going on. tell me historically whether somebody who is where hillary is has gone on to lose in this country. this close to the election. >> well, certainly if you look at the 2000 election. al gore came out with a 7 point lead in the gallup poll. in october bush took a double-digit lead in the poll
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and won the election but lost the popular vote by 5,000,000 votes. we do have examples in history where people have made up ground. gerald ford in 1976, was down 15 points after the convention but lost by only two points. the problem for trump now is in the post 2000 period where the country is so evenly divided and we're much more polarized and partisan now, are there that many persuadables for trump to win back at this point with only 11 weeks left. that remains an open question. >> yet there may be some big event. there could be, god forbid a terror incident or the e-mail dump from the dnc involving hillary clinton. i mean, there could be a game changer still. >> so many unique things about this election, megyn. events -- two candidates now who are the most -- least well liked in history. honest and trustworthiness. donald trump, republicans have never elected someone without experience other than a war
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hero. there are so many potential vulnerabilities and twists and turns left in the race. >> where would you put the odds? what percentage would you say trump has of winning at this point? >> i mean, look, given where things stand right now, he is behind the eight ball. he has to start making up ground. >> put a number on it for me. i won't hold you to it. as of this point in time. >> given where things stand right now, i would say maybe 25%, 30%. i think he's still -- again, even despite all the things that have happened he is down 5 points in the national average. it's not like he's down 10 or 20 points. >> i have to go. great to see you. up next, crabfest is on at red lobster so come dive into dishes like the new alaska bairdi crab dinner with sweet crab from the icy waters of alaska. or try crab lover's dream with tender snow and king crab legs. love crab? then hurry, crabfest ends soon.
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leave, the whole country is going to continue to support you and help you until we get folks back in their homes and lives are rebuilt. and the reason i can say that with confidence is because that's what americans do in times like this. >> for more information on this story and how you can help, go over to our website, which is foxnews.com. we are also tracking developments tonight from virginia where the fbi is investigating a possible isis connection after a brutal stabbing in roanoke, virginia. the suspect, by some accounts, attempted to travel to syria and was on the fbi's radar screen. so how exactly was he able to carry out an attempted stabbing? trace gallagher has the latest. trace? >> reporter: megyn, the fbi knew about this guy, but he had no criminal history. and so far, isis has not claimed responsibility for the attack, but investigators are looking into whether it was isis-inspired. it happened in roanoke county, virginia, about 250 miles south of d.c. a man and woman walking into
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their apartment complex when they were ambushed by a man with a knife, screaming allahu akhbar. both victims were severely wounded including a neck wound to the male victim, though authorities do not believe it was an attempted beheading. the man was able to fight off the attacker. now listen to the 911 dispatcher. >> there's blood everywhere. male is attacked. there's blood everywhere. a nieknife in the stairwell. >> reporter: a man matching the description of the suspect later walked into the same hospital where the victims were taken. he was arrested and identified as 20-year-old wasil faruki, who reportedly has been on the fbi's radar for months and is believed to be self-radicalized. investigators say he traveled earlier this year to turkey and may have tried to sneak into syria. police say both victims are muslim, but they do believe the attack was random. the fbi is now looking at
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faruki's computer and his social networking footprint to see if there was been any contact overseas. he's being held without bond tonight. joini >> joinigreat to see you both. this is not clear, dana, right? there saying maybe he was mentally disturbed. that's the most likely explanation according to the investigators. how do they get there if people heard him yelling allahu akhbar and he was on the fbi's radar? >> yeah, that doesn't quite make sense, megyn. and i agree. i think that we're still learning some things here. but at the same time, there are too many coincidences that make me quite uneasy. the fact that you had multiple witnesses that said he was screaming allahu akhbar as he was slicing and dieing and dici poor victims here. the fact that he had traveled recently to turkey hoping to gain entry to syria, was unsuccessful. and as you said, the fbi had him on some sort of list, had been
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watching him for at least a few months. all of this stuff adds up. there are too many coincidences here. when you look back at some of these other not so lone wolf, it goes back to the question how many lone wolves make a pack? when you look at some of these other previous attacks, there have been these kind of red flags that have been in these attackers' past, whether they've been traveling, what their browser history was like, some of their associations, and i'm sure those are all things that the fbi in their investigation, they're going to come out with. >> certainly if he attempted to travel to syria, you know, the fbi is going to be interested in that, nomiki. but, you know, what he apparently said was he was hearing voices telling him to attack people which could take this out of terror and into a straight mental health situation. i suppose that's why they're not labeling it anything right now. >> right. and the department of justice actually did a study and released a report saying that the majority of these lone wolf terror acts are actually acts that are related to mental illness. so i think --
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>> so it's both. it could be both. >> i think that's the problem with isis is unlike al qaeda or some of these traditional terrorist organizations that have these large structures, is that isis feeds off of the weak. it feeds off of the young people who are naive, don't understand the implications of going to syria, and a lot of westerners who have been marginalized, and the mentally ill unfortunately. and they have access to information. they have access to their propaganda online. and while this guy may not have been trained by isis, did not go to syria, he could -- >> a lot of people are going to be wondering if he was on the fbi's radar, how he was able to commit an attempted stabbing. >> i agree with that. i think you do have to be mentally ill to be part of isis or to be an islamic terrorist. at the same time, it's going to be easier to try to get off on a crazy charge than a proper charge. charge. >> right as well lead
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