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robbery. that's it for today. be sure to check out my best searl "wake up america" and also please remember the spin stops right here because we're looking out for you. breaking tonight, hillary clinton under mounting pressure tonight from the left and the right to shut the doors of her clinton foundation once and for all. and tonight the clintons are fighting back big time. welcome to "the kelly file," everybody, i'm megyn kelly. we brought you a story from the "associated press" that suggests that hillary clinton held many, many meetings with clinton foundation donors while she was supposed to be doing the american people's business. they found that 140 people with private interests who met or had phone conversations with then secretary of state clinton more than half or 85 of them gave money to her foundation, the clinton foundation, for a
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combined total of $156 million. the clinton campaign quickly hitting back saying this report is flawed. and earlier today as a campaign stop, former president bill clinton time chi clinton chimed in. watch. >> we're trying to do our thing. there's something wrong with creating jobs and saving lives. i don't know what it is. the people who gave knew what they were doing. i don't have nothing to say. i'm proud of what they've done. >> we begin torn with our chief intelligence correspondent catherine herridge. catherine? >> hillary clinton's team tried and failed to get a correction. they tweet thad this a.p. tweet was unfair, not accurate, and based on limited information. >> by our count there were over 1,700 other meetings that she
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had. she was secretary of state and meeting with foreign officials and government officials constantly, so to pull all of them out of the equation, cherry pick a small number of meetings is pretty outrageous. >> and the white house defended clinton telling reporters even before she became secretary of state there was a transparency agreement. >> to ensure that the ethics requirements that are in place went above and beyond those guidelines that are set by law. >> but the "associated press" said their reporting is based on documents released by a federal court after they had to sue the state department and it took three years for the a.p. to get the clintons' asked scheduleuals that showed the foundation do donors. clinton said, this was done by the same a.p. team that was described by her e-mail serve
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and as a result last week resulted in the resignation of donald trump's top campaign strategist. megyn? >> thank you. tray dowdy just got back from capitol hill where he reviewed some of the fbi's documents regarding hillary clinton's e-mail server. we'll tell you what he found. first we're joined by rowland martin, host of tv 1. what do you make of this? >> good to be here. >> boston globe, "detroit news," new york post, daily news all saying this should be shout done if she wins. >> you'll have her as president, former president bill clinton serving as first husband if you will. i do believe what they should do is transition out of business because even though they've done
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phenomenal work, you're now the commander in chief. you're now lead over the free world. and so, look, i see on an education group. students first. we merge transferred assets. you can do that, partner with an ngo to do the work -- >> what do you think of the existence of it now? laura ingraham was on fox earlier calling the clinton foundation a machine for influence peddling. they use it, use her power as secretary of state to sort of convince people to donate to their foundation. >> first of all i would disagree with that. let's keep in mind she's a former first lady, former united states senator. i think she has a helluva lot more relationships even if she was secretary of state. the reality of it is the work they're doing is pretty important. you have president jimmy carter who probably comes closest to having his own organization that
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does work around the world. it's very rare to have a former president who has this type of entity. i would say laura is actually wrong. she certainly has an ax to grind here. i don't. i do believe what the clinton folks have to understand is it's not just a question of what took place in meetings, it's always the appearance. i think one of the things they should do, they should do this, after labor day, they are going to suspend any funds into the foundation because you're in the middle of a presidential campaign. i believe it would be far more proactive as opposed to reactive. that's what the clintons should be doing. >> rowland, do you like her? i know you're a supporter of president obama. >> i met her. again, just like anybody who's in political office, i have a very simple philosophy, meg
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begi if you do bad,'ll talk about you. >> are you open minded to donald trump? >> here's the deal. i have being asking the same question over and over. where is your plan. look. i voted for republicans before so this ain't the first time. like at individuals. the problem for me is here. donald trump gives great comments. it's on my bumper sticker. there's no specificity, no plan, when he says, that's not true, i've got a problem when you sumly running for office cannot tell me how you're going to pay for your tax plan. then where's your plan. i'm sorry. he'll's all hat and no cattle that's what we say in my native texas. >> roland, good to see you. >> thanks a lot. >> trey gowdy.
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great to see you, sir. today you had an interesting day taking a look at documents the fbi had prior to you getting a look at them. did you find anything particularly interesting about these documents hillary provided the fbi? >> yes, ma'am. keep in mind one notebook with the classified e-mails that she handled so engine lently. the other notebook were the witness interviews, is summaries, what we call 302s. my number one takeaway megyn is you should not have to look at the interviews that i had to do in washington in classified setting. you and your viewers should be able to read some of these witness interviews. the second takeaway, the fbi's time and attention was debunking and refuting these fantastically false statements that secretary clinton made at the inception of this e-mail story.
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and the third takeaway, remember fbi director comey said he could not do a successful prosecution on the issue of intent. i looked to see what witnesses were there on the issue of intent including her and i didn't see that many. >> let's go back to number two, the second point, on how much time they had to spend debunking. what do you mean by that? >> something as seemingly innocuous as us calling sidney blumenthal her adviser. she got really upset. you'll never guess what the fbi used when they described him. he was interviewed. i think you would find very interesting what colin powell had to say and juxtapose what clinton's supporters have had to say over the last 48 hour. the multiple devices, how many
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phones she had. the very reason she set it up. all of that provened to be fantastically false. >> i want to ask you this. she claims she never received any classified information. we now know that's not true. i know you thought it might be interesting if the american people could see who sent some of the e-mails that she received with the classified information. what do you mean by that? why would that be so interesting? >> well, right now, even congress can't see the identi identities of them. they're so classified that even a congressman in a skiff with no telepho telephone, no ipad, no notes, that's how classified that information was that she was handling on a nonsecure server. sidney blumenthal is one author and sharon mills and aberdeen. there are some originators that even congress can't see the
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identity of them because of the information in them. >> meanwhile she's saying i had noey. congressman trey gowdy, thank you for being here. >> yes, ma'am, thank you. also tonight a new reason for hillary clinton to be very surprised. the founder of wikileaks is here in an exclusive interview on the information he holds and what it may mean for mrs. clinton. don't miss julian assange. >> you know, right now, according to the average of all polls, she's beating donald trump by 5.5 points nationwide, she's way ahead of him in most of the swing states. do you believe the information you have in your possession could b i don't want to live with the uncertainties of hep c. or wonder whether i should seek treatment.
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breaking tonight with 75 days go, possibly influence peddling have come to light and there are new reports from insiders that clinton plans to, quote, run out the clock, ignoring these controversies until the voters go to the polls. our next guest has other plans.
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his site wikileaks is set to public information that will not be helpful to police clinton and may force her to respond. moments ago we had a lengthy and fascinating conversation with julian assange. co-founder and editor of wikileaks. he's under investigation by the u.s. government too for his role in the largest leak of classified documents in u.s. history. here is part one of that exclusive interview. watch. >> julian, thank you very much for being here. let's start with the additional information you have regarding hillary clinton. when can we expect this information? >> we're working around the clock. we have a lot of material and the major dndncs including debb
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wasser man schultz late last week. it's a complex situation. we have to assess the voracity, a perfect ten-year record of never getting it wrong. we want the keep that reputation. understanding how to keep things for mated, what media to be involved in. what is the best way to stage it out. do we accumulate everything in one batch door several batches. we decided to do several batches. >> give us a general sense. are we going to see it before the november 8th election? >> yes, absolutely. i mean in the case of the dnc leaks, for example, we pushed as hard as we could to try to get it in before the democratic nomination conference because obviously people have a right to understand who they're nominating and what's involved and the same is true here for the u.s. electoral process,
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people involved in that election have the right to understand who it is they're electing. >> you've seen it, right? can you tell us how significant you believe it is? i mean compare its significance to what we saw released by wikileaks in july. >> i don't want to scoop ourselves. we have a lot of material, thousands of pages of material. while i have not read every single page, in doing that, i didn't want to give the game away. there's a variety of different types of documents and different types of institutions that are associated with the election campaign, some quite unexpected angles that are, you know, quite interesting, some even entertaining. >> do you -- you know, right now according to the average of all polls, she's beating donald trump by 5.5 points nationwide,
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she's way ahead of him in most of the swing states, not all, do you believe the information in your possession could be a game-changer in the u.s. election? >> i think it's significant. you know, it depends on how it catches fire in the public and in the media. >> joining us now, chris stirewalt and dana perino, co-host of "the five." part two of our interview with assange is tomorrow, and wait until you see it. i mean this is something a lot of people talk about, which is the october surprise, and despite all the polling we receive for hillary in her favor, whether that guy i just talked to, whether he's got the one thing that really could stop her, some sort of a bombshell that could be a deal breaker. dana, your thoughts. >> he has a gift of understatement. this is called deep tease. he's going to string us along.
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i think republicans will probably hope there is something that will make so many democrats stay home that it depresses the democratic turnout and donald trump could get to victory that way. he said they work vrd hard in order to get the dnc leaks out just in time, but they did it the night before. >> he's admitted they did that to get attention. >> whatever prediction he has will come out the night before the third presidential debate because that's close enough in time to really have an impact on the election because she would be forced to have to answer it on the debate stage. the third debate is the one everybody peasays attention to. i'm not giving assange any ideas. that's the one everyone will be watching. i malk some will think trump won one and she won the other and it will come down to this third one and there'll be this big massive
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stoerd beforehand and she'll have to deal with it. >> look. he does not like donald trump. he's not fan of donald trump, but he really doesn't like hillary clinton at all, and i think he'd be just fine if he leased something that hurt her campaign at a critical moment in this contest. >> yeah. what is hillary clinton but the embodyiment of the bipartisan state. it's something that julian assange and others in this movement are obsessed. >> not only that, he also thinks that she's a hawk. >> right. >> pushing of the policy in libya and getting gadhafi out of there and so on, which he thinks is a disaster. he doesn't like her on a number of levels. >> of course. and it stands to reason because
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hillary clinton would be more of a return to foreign policy than former president bush is. >> here's the question. here's a question for you. i'll ask you this, chris. could anything he released realistically, i mean given his description -- it wasn't like he said, i've got a bombshell, you wait for it. it may be entertaining, insignificant. i don't know. could it really change the views and votes in this election? it's har hard to believe that people supporting her now are going to switch over to trump. >> millions and millions of people are going to vote for people that they say they do not trust. that's a fachlkt it's true for hillary clinton and for donald trump. there's going to be millions of people. the polls tell us they do not trust her, they do not find her honest and trustworthy. they're going to pull the lever anyway.
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what you need -- the clintons have oddly reinforced the threshold. she's either going to the clank, going up the river or going to the white house. either she's found be guilty of a serious crime or whatever. >> or the clink the fear is maybe not that they're going to switch from hillary to trump, the fear on the clinton's people part. it's that it will depress enthusiasm. >> as you go back to 2000, that election day was very close, gore and bush. right before them, you remember the news that broke, george w. bush had had a run-in with the law, a dui situation that he did not disclose and karl rove will tell you that depressed evangelical turnout. if trump can get this closer and depression is on her side, maybe that helps. >> fascinating. great to see you. you as well, chris stirewalt.
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massive deportation? >> you're going have a deportation force and you're going to do it humanely. they're going go back where they came. if they came from a certain country, they're going back to that country. that's the way it's going to be. they can come back but they have do it legally. we have a country or we don't have a country. we have at least 11 million people that came in illegally. they will go out. >> now trump is suggesting they may not go out. that policy expelling illegal immigrants and their families may be too tough. watch this from part 2 of sean hannity's town hair which airs tonight at 10:00. watch. >> originally you said they were all out and there's a big brouhaha, but you said if they can prove they've been here, but, there's a big question, no citizensh citizenship. >> no amnesty, but we look at them. i have this all over. now, everybody agrees we get the bad ones out, but when i go
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through and meet thousands and thousands of people on the subject and i've had strong people come up to me, really great, great people come up to me and say, mr. trump, i love you, but to take a person that's been here 15, 20 years and throw them and the family out, it's so tough, mr. trump -- i hear it all the time. it's a very, very hard thing. >> chief political correspondent carl cameron is in jackson, mississippi, where trump was. carl? >> yeah. they're breaking down the show. it was quite a show. he didn't say there would not be amnesty, which is exactly what he said to sean hannity. but when you put it into decades, the question of what constitutes amnesty becomes a critical one. for years they argued that anything that involved citizenship for those that are
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undocumented illegal immigrants now, that would be amnesty. that would change which meant a packet to legal status. that appears to be what donald trump is warming up to actually announce, though he says it's not amnesty. it's exactly what he accused jeb bush and others of his rivals in the primary process of essentially promoting. amnesty allows people to stay here who are not legal immigrants. instead he want back to the law and order attack on hillary clinton saying that liberal policies have kept down minorities, specifically african-americans and hispanics and he upped the rhetoric significantly. and even though his senior new aides that the name calling would subside, it escalated tonight. listen to this. >> hillary clinton is a bigot who sees people of color only as
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votes, not as human beings, worthy of a better fuehrer. she doesn't care what her policies have done to your communities. hillary clinton has no remorse. >> trump has been campaigning in red states here in mississippi, although he was in tampa earlier and last night he was in texas. these are states that have been red and voting for republicans in presidential races for decades. he should be very, very safe here. he returns going back to battleground states more aggressively tomorrow. but, boy, he's left some reelfootprints. hillary clinton is surely not going to tolerate being called a bigot and she may have ammunition. >> thank you. joining me now, sheriff joe ar pie yeo and founder of
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defineamerica.com, himself an undocumented immigrant and erick erickson. good to see you all. eric, let me start with this. with trump's clear 180 on his promise to deport all 11 million of those here illegally. i mean it's a 180, is it not? >> right. it absolutely is. it turns out that trump is as much a politician as the politicians he attacked for being a politician. this was their position. it wasn't enough for him. he attacked all of them for being soft saying we had to round them up and send them home and maybe they could come back. he was very, very clear they had to go and now not so much. >> sheriff joe, do you deny that this is a 180? >> oh, i don't know. first of all we would not be having this conversation if 16 months ago he had the courage to bring up the illegal immigration problem. nobody wanted to.
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he brings it up with the wall that i agree should be built and now he's looking at the situation with 11 million people. he's always said you have to obey the law. the last i heard if you come into this country illegally, you're violating the law. let's see what his plan is. >> you just heard him. you heard him say no amnesty. as far as those who have come to this country, he says, 15 years 20rks years, it's so tough. it's a very different message, is it not, sheriff, from what we've heard from donald trump to date. >> i don't know. he hasn't made a decision. i'm very happy with meeting with minority groups. this is great. he knows how to relate to people on the street, so i'm sure he's picking up some ideas, but i also believe that he said he's going to enforce the law. so let's see how this situation falls within the laws when you're talking about visas and work permits and everything
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else. >> he's sort of ignoring the additional part that he gave to sean hannity tonight. what he said last night to sean, he's softening, and what he said tonight, i've been on the campaign trail, that it's just so tough, which is what you're saying. they're part of the american society and rip them out and rip them away from their families is impractical and you tell me he's almost back to jeb bush's position almost exactly. >> having donald trump talk to his own undocumented workers and making sure his hotels and golf courses are working properlily. actually someone met with him three years ago and he said it makes sense undocumented people should be here and be able to stay. as eric said, donald trump is a politician.
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he's flip-flopping. what is sad is you can't take away all the comments of rapists and terrorists. now he's looking days before the election and saying, how am i going to win this election. >> you have not been a supporter, but you said for months he's going to reverse it like you can't believe. during the campaign season i asked him about his frequent flip-flops at the third presidential debate, the third for fox news, that is, hardwared in detroit. watch. >> mr. trump, one of the things people love about you is they believe you tell it like it is but time and time again in this campaign you have told voters one thing only to reverse yourself within weeks, even sometimes days. but the point i'm going for, you change your tune on so many things that that has some people
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saying, what is his core? >> megyn, i have a very strong core. i have a very strong core. but i have never seen a successful person who isn't flexible, has a degree of flexibility. you have to have a degree of flexibility. >> architecture, is that what you're seeing now? >> this is a pattern with donald trump. sometimes he changes in the next sentence. this is going back to the exact same position he held almost to the day he announced mexicans as rapists. in 2012 he accused people of being rapists. now he can have the nomination he can go back to the position he initially announced. >> sheriff joe, you, obviously you are anti-illegal
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immigration, we all know that. explain why you still believe in him and still fully has your support. >> he's had it to begin with and he will always have it. he's a great guy. sometimes people make comments taken out of context. okay. what's wrong with him studying an issue and trying to find out what's the best thing for our country. he's got good character and that's what counts. some people may not agree with me. i think i know him pretty well. when he says he's going put the wall up, believe me, that wall is going up. now we're talking about the millions of people that are here, which is a very controversial subject right now. something has to be done about that. maybe congress ought to do something and get laws passed if you have to or enforce the laws that we already have on the books. that's what we should do and that's what i believe that mr. trump -- >> jose, i'll give you the quick last word.
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>> sheriff, i did not cross that wall. i'm from the philippines actually. and legal border crossings for mexico is low since the 1970s kchl we talk about facts? donald trump has been running a fact list, inhuman campaign and he can't take it back. what we take away is how he defined americans. >> he wants a wall to protect this country from terrorism and the drugs. the. >> i've got to leave it there. it's great to see you all. thank you, gentlemen. also a shocking story about a public funded school, students being trained to stop the white people. we have our panel up next.
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breaking "today," 75 days from the election. hillary clinton is leading donald trump in all national polls but in the battleground north carolina the candidates are locked in a personal tie. that has not stopped trump's campaign manager kellyanne conway it's not telling the whole story. why? undercover trump voters. we're hearing more of that. so what kellyanne is saying there's the undercover voter who does not want to tell the pollsters that they're in trump's camp because the social stigma has been attached to being a trump voter in her mind and so he's underpolling how
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he's really going to perform. tucker, do you buy it? >> i mean there's always some truth to that. i think it's a pretty slim hope to hang a campaign on. on the other hand, we saw a clear example of this in late june with the brexit vote. the night before the brexit vote, the stay side, the anti-brexit forces were up the. that's a six-point shift in 24 hours. the betting market had it 90/10, stay/leave. the demographics were pretty similar to what we saw. the people who stay were the finance community and young people. they didn't vote in numbers the leave people voted in. that's not a crazy comparison actually. i think if it gets tight, i think that could be real. >> what do you think, kristin? >> in the primaries there was a big difference in calls where you had a live person asking ore the phone who are you voting for
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and in some of the surveys on the line, who are you voting for. here in the general election we're not seeing that same kind of divide. you know, as tucker mentioned, there have been cases in the past where we called social desirability bias. people think they need to give the right answer on the phones. to the extent there are missing voters, they're hard to survey. there's a chance the polls could be off a little bit in either direction. it is slim hope to hang a campaign on. >> if trump's actually winning, if e he's got all these voters who are prepared to vote for him, why did he reorganize his campaign operation? >> absolutely. it's something you have to ask. it's one of these situations to tucker's point earlier, if donald trump was able to become
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close, to be more socially acceptable as a choice, you would see much tighter numbers in all of these states. i think you would see him doing a lot better. i think the problem is everybody knows about him now. he's a settled proposition. people know who he is. the types of claims that there is a great mass of people out there who want to vote for donald trump and haven't been able to say it to a pollster, it's too much of a reach. >> he's trying to mix it up. clearly this is an attempt to bring more people into the fold and banking on his long held belief that none knot a single one of his core supporters dwould that. >> that is true. i mean, look. the brexit people won under the leadership of nigel because they were artist lating what it was about. he was making the case, look, a small group of people make all
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the decisions in this country. it's supposed to be a democracy, it's not. now is your chance to serve. that's a really powerful mention. that's in effect what trump is saying. stop with this, well, maybe -- no. big picturet at this late day he could pull it off? >> is trump optimizing his schedule? what was he doing in mississippi tonight? >> this is what i see he needs to be adjustmented to. we can talk about the national polls, is trump up or down, down by five or six. but it's about states like ohio and west virginia and florida. the campaign in 2012 focused on oopty miez. use data to decide what's the
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best way to optimize it. he's good at going places where he can get excited rallies. >> ben, quickly, the debate, how big a factor? >> it can be a huge factor. you have to assume a campaign that doesn't exist yet in terms of people on the ground who can exploit it and bring people into the fold, especially the places christina mentioned. >> good to see you. up next, ben shapiro. up next, ben shapiro. the we're always saying, "no worries, mate!"
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from the world headquarters of fox news, it's "the kelly file" with megyn kelly. >> a head-turning story at the state university of new york at binghamton tonight, resident advisers there being offered an optional training course called stop white people 2k16. supposedly, this is diversity training, but some say it's actually racist. ben shapiro joins me now, attorney and editor and chief of "the daily wire," which broke
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this story. ben, good to see you. what's this about? >> basically, there's a resident assistant program, a training program, 40 to 50 r.a.s attended it and the goal was to teach the r.a.s how to deal with white privilege and the racism on the campus to explain reverse racism didn't exist and to correct the misconceptions of the undereducated people who think things like white privilege is a buzz word for leftism and people should actually be treated equally without regards to their race. this is particularly just plain leftist politics under the guise of education by a bunch of residents that the university says, of course, there's nothing to do, nothing on sectionable. >> it was a joke. can you imagine if there was a program, like, stop black people? the reaction that we could get at a publicly funded university? >> the whole thing is absurd, of
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course. if you try to give a lecture by a group on campus, there's a good shot you'll be protested and shut down. >> as you know firsthand. >> exactly. they can run a program called stop white people 2k16, neglecting the fact most folks in new york are white and subsidizing. >> but this is what the students said. the student group says, this is vice president of student affairs, look, it wasn't antiwhite, we're trying to improve people's ability to handle conflicts around diversity and race and it was very respectful and only a couple of people complained. >> respectful to whom? respectful to whom? stop black people, entire country shuts down. that's just another way of expressing yourself, of bringing up conflict. listen, this is the sort of intellectual rigor i would expect from the harvard of binghamton, but nonetheless, it's not exactly, i think, an even playing field with regard
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tune in tomorrow, part two of the founder of wikileaks set to release new leaked information about hillary clinton. and watch his response when i ask him about who leaked these documents to him and whether the leaker was murdered in july. there was almost speculation as to whether your source was inside the dnc and whether it may have been a man named seth rich, who was killed, he was shot. why are you so interested in seth rich's killer? >> we're very interested in anything that might be a threat
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