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meaning. something i need to probably learn with my two-year-olds as well. tone matches meaning. jon: it does matter. jenna: get winston in for exclusive. that is jon's dog. john john see you -- jon: next is "outnumbered." harris: on fine tuesday this isout numbered. we have fox business network's dagen mcdowell, radio talk show host meghan mcan cain, and lisa booth and today's #oneluckyguy iraq, afghanistan veteran and fox news contributor, the list gets longer, pete hegseth. >> you know what i call you behind your back? honk, honk, burning hegseth. >> i will take it. harris: now everybody knows.
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love the tie. never seen one. loving it. you succeed. this is just happening now. a story unfolding, sources just this hour confirming to fox news that the fbi is preparing to release some of the materials contained in its report on hillary clinton's email practices while she was secretary of the state department. the release in the response, we understand, is the response to numerous requests under the freedom of information act. the timing, note, just as new signs that pay to play allegations are swirling around hillary clinton's state department. and that they may be taking a toll on her poll numbers. her once commanding lead in key poll over donald trump has been cut in half. according to the latest monmouth university poll clinton leads trump by just seven points, 46-39, look at it there, down from a 13 point lead she held just after the democratic convention.
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the drop mostly due to a 7-point decline in support from among members of her own party. the rnc is demanding the clinton foundation release all of it is formal communications with the state department when she was secretary. chairman reince priebus says, that is the only way the american people will ever know for sure if donors were given special treatment. watch. or watch us talk about it. >> well, no, "the new york times" even today came out and said she needs to separate herself from the foundation. everyone is piling on, the evidence has shown the optic is reality. her bounce from the dnc subsided, trump steadied the ship and the stuff from the foundation is starting to stick. emails, emails are, foia requests are coming due. huma abedin is not just number two, she was employed by the state department and the clinton foundation at the same time as she talks to doug band who works for bill clinton. it is all clear. comey should have prosecuted
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when he had the chance. the evidence that comes out shows how guilty they really are. harris: lisas as with he look at that, messaging coming out of rnc and republicans, donald trump campaign, have they hit this hard enough or is this one of the cases politicians say if you have a house on fire and have a bucket of water, keep it in your hands? >> look at some swing states are closing as well in pennsylvania and florida. keep hammering it home. for hillary clinton she obviously made the political cale class that not releasing these emails and trying to hide information is in her best interests instead of putting it out there. there is reason why she reportedly spent $140,000 out of her on pocket to maintain these servers. emails, deleting uses bleachbit and failing to disclose foreign donors in the first place regarding the clinton foundation. she made the political calculation it will hurt her less trying to hide the
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information instead of, out there. harris: dagen, a lot of people ask why we look at particular poll. this asks questions about the clinton foundation, the respondents in the survey were responding on point to what we're talking about, others out there, not always ones we look at first but we look for trends, according to real "real clear politics," economists showing 3 plus lead. that is the not double digit quinnepiac had. it seems more of an ought liar with the double-digit lead for clinton. your thoughts? dagen mcdowell all the polls show the gap is closing. his numbers improved, she is weakening even if she has a lead. i always look at the how favorability ratings, also the negatives and there was a "wall street journal" poll that jerry seib was writing about, now more than six in 10 reported negative feelings donald trump. more than five in 10 had
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negative feelings towards her. what is going on goes right to that. the american people have learned to distrust her over the last 25 years and literally distrust everyone around her. everything that comes out right now, it goes straight to that that. she could run an ad of her in field of tulips having her faced licked by a dozen puppies it will not make people have warm feelings towards her. harris: no, but i would watch it >> people think, poor puppies. harris: meghan, as we look at this, you said 25 years of it, but what is counts what happened in the last 25 days because you're talking momentum and you have spent, being hillary clinton north of 40 million on negative ads in battleground states. she is are national polls. only one in double-digit. they have all kind of shrunk. your thoughts? meghan: yesterday we got in very heated discussion how people on the left trying to spin this. this is business as usual, politics as usual. the american people are very
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smart. they know the clintons do business in a very different way than the rest of politicians. this is business as usual. they're incredibly corrupt. i don't care what people say, they were bribed, you give clintons enough money you get access, what lunch with the president of the china. you can have access to anything you want. prince of bahrain can come in have dinner with whomever you want. the business is not as usual and spin on left is not working. for donald trump hammer this home. for people like me waiver on donald trump. you know what i hate more? all the stuff with the clintons. all this hypocrisy and all the corruption. >> does anyone find it hilarious, the democratic party try to attack associated press. somehow hillary clinton who i mentioned before deleted tens of thousands of emails, systematically lied to american people and we should trust her account of things and not the associated press. >> the associated press had to sue this get access to the information.
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that is the hideousness of the argument you hear from the liberal left. meghan: there is arrogance, ap, which is the wire, you can tell a media organizations doing their jobs, remove this from twitter, that is the arrogance of the clinton administration. i hate john edwards, i never liked him. he said clintons live by one rule of law and clintons by another. never truer statement. >> abuse of the american people. they abuse the american people. harris: to broaden that out quickly, pete, we talked about this many times. we saw some of this in the obama administration via ben rhodes, you know, we could put a narrative out there for certain members of the media and get a story out there with regard to the iran deal. >> of course the clintons can count on fact the media will not dig any deeper. what they report on is surface level of reporting of facts in near term and moving right on. >> we're moving on right now. we're weeks away from the first presidential debate of 2016. we're learning more about hillary clinton's strategy.
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fox news confirming that the democratic nominee is trying to find triggers to get under donald trump's skin. and provoke him into an outburst on live television. her team is getting advise from psychology experts to make sure they know what would work. her advisors are also talking to the ghost writer of "the art of the deal" that donald trump book, for insight into trump's deepest insecurities. meantime hillary clinton herself saying at a fund-raiser in the hamptons, quote, we have three debates. the first one? september. i do know which donald trump will show up. a source tells fox news clinton campaign that trump is well-prepared for accusations of bankruptcies and other matters he had to answer for but marco rubio's hands comment, apparently really took him off his game. meghan mccain, you have insight into debate prep before. >> yes. >> it works to her advantage.
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she won the senate race in 2000 because of rick lazio getting up in her space. that is what sealed it for her. she is trying to provoke the same thing from donald trump. meghan: donald trump has at that be careful not making her victim. i don't like her gender plays a role in this. too hard on bill's affairs. it will look bad. he already has a problem with women and minorities. that being said, she could be overpreparing right now. she has to have her pantsuit focus grouped by a group group of people to see how which one she will wear and how people react. he smoked debate. 16 people. did great job almost every single time. if he goes in talking like straight talker, average joe, can come out and win. >> when i think of the coming debates i think of rocky 4? remember vock at this training in the wilderness. ivan drago in the lab and rocky,
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swinging from the hip a little bit more and she is poll testing the pantsuit and testing with psychological experts. we'll see if it is gunslinger or the precise one. it is like ""rocky iv"." harris: she had fewer opponents, up against barack obama it was not so easy. >> yep. harris: primary contests it was tough. >> he can seem like a real person. she viewing gels with that. harris: donald trump is a real person and will come real wit. the question though, will he lean on the news cycle he has just been handed with more of it coming out today? is he growing to lean on that? fine, if you want to take point own point, you answer the direct question but for every barb is then. let me turn to page 17 in the pay for play scandal and let me show you which country was given this and which benefit happening
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here and yes, or no, they had a leader. harris: >> to harris's point, according to "the new york times" article he didn't want to do mock debates. could that hurt him? >> i think it could because hillary clinton is policy wonk. he needs to be prepared on policy issues. as someone who worked with male candidates in debate training against a gee male opponent there is -- female opponent there is double-standard. it worked for her in the past. that is something he needs to be careful because he does punch hard. he needs to make sure he is punching in the right way and doesn't overstep there because, i guarranty she will sit there and oh, little old me. harris: pete, you're surrounded by a you few strong women right now. if we get into it with you, you're not letting anybody win a point. when will we get to the point where women want equality but want equality everywhere? do we mean it or not? >> not with hillary. not with hillary. that's the problem though. why women, millenial women are
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not endeared to her. >> you're exactly right. not just the victim card, but narrative she tries to create of him, bigoted and crazy. there you go, again, donald, off the rails, can we hand you the keys to the nuclear codes. there is incentive for her to be sounding thoughtful and him off his rocker. he will have to be in tune. >> by the way who the clinton campaign trying to pick as donald trump. mark cuban was one. james carville. also some celebrities, maybe alec baldwin? harris: you're a fan of james carville in this role. we talked about this. >> mark cuban is pretty harsh. mark cuban knows how to shoot some arrows. meghan: got to get somebody from the right though. you have to get some long-term republican. get jesse watters, pay him $15 million. i'm sorry, they're liberals. they will not shoot with the
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same arrows a conservative will. donald trump has a lot of like really smart conservatives around him, prepping him right now. i just think she can prep and prep and prep. he will go quick. >> very, very unpredictable. you can't prepare for donald trump. you don't know what he will do. harris: would you take less than 15 million to since you offered that? >> pretty good gig. >> i tried to come up with outburst that would hurt donald trump and i couldn't come up with one. he already had them all. he is the republican nominee. meghan: i gave you money because i knew you could be bought. harris: wow. meghan: that is the line i want to hear. i have some good lines against hillary. >> i gave you money because i knew you could be bought. harris: we should go to commercial. >> we have to tease first. questions about hillary clinton's closest aid huma abedin is aliability to her campaign.
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hillary clinton close advisor, friend, confidante, huma abedin is having personal problems. the question is the personal about to become a professional distraction for the campaign? abedine is separates from her husband anthony weiner, former new york politician. she made the announcement after finding out weiner once again exchanged lewd messages with a woman on social media, five years after his first sexting scandal, forced him to resign in the first place from his seat in
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congress but now that question i just mentioned, could his behavior cast a shadow that is much bigger than their marriage? "the new york times" is pointing out quote, mr. weiner's extramarital behavior also threatens to remind voters about the troubles in the clintons own marriage. his abedin's choice to separate from her husband evokes debates that erupted police clinton's handling of the lewinsky affair, a discussion her campaign left in the past, unquote. dagen? dagen: never in my entire professional life met a nastier person than anthony weiner. literally he was abusive to anyone, particularly people, just in a green room who he thought was beneath him. carpalma is a bitch, isn't it, anthony? i wanted to say that first and foremost. what is in focus in terms of the presidential election this is hillary clinton's second daughter. this is the woman who keeps
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hillary clinton's phone in her own purse. this woman is the linchpin in all the dealings with the state department and the clinton foundation and all the people who wanted access by giving money, whether it was through bill clinton's speeches. whether directly to the foundation. she was on the payroll of the clinton foundation. she was on hillary clinton's payroll and on the payroll of doug band's teneo consulting firm. if you want to focus on her judgment and what she knows and what she doesn't know, that is perfectly legitimate. harris: wow, okay. lisa. >> she also knows where the bodies lie. she knows all of hillary clinton's deep, dark secrets and intricately involved in all the things hillary clinton is trying to hide. i think it cast as shadow over the clinton campaign but i believe there are stark differences that i don't believe anthony weiner has ever been accused of rape. i also think the hypocrisy from hillary clinton comes from the sense and "wall street journal" had a great article on this a little while ago, about the sense she is trying to use,
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these womens issues as sword and also a shield. in the sense she is trying to sit there and make claims every rape victim, every domestic violence victim deserves to be heard and believed, something she removed from her website since juanita broderick resurfaced. harris: she was asked about it at an event and came down. >> she reportedly dragged women through the mud that have accused bill clinton. that is the where the hypocrisy charge. that's the difference. harris: lisa, here is the issue for hillary clinton, you said all of that because of what is happening with huma abedin. >> that's a good point. harris: bringing it up. i want to remind everybody during our show yesterday donald trump had tweeted about this very thing. or actually he was talking to "the new york times." excuse me, he didn't tweet. he said it is just an example of hillary clinton's bad judgment. that our security could be greatly compromised by this pete? >> you could imagine different
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scenarios which he is vulnerable and makes her vulnerable. who knows how many potential hacks through associations with private servers and things going on. there are security violations when some other country knows things about you they shouldn't can use against you in contexts not advantageous to you or your country. if hillary clinton is president of the united states, huma abedin will be sitting next to her. we have already questionable international ties from her. that is all bad. if you're a campaign, you don't want the news cycle driven by your aide all day long. you're losing talking about huma abedin which is pretty much what we talked about so far today. harris: wow. meghan: huma abedin is public figure. she is in "vogue" magazine. she went to the met ball. she made herself a public figure and very strange and unusual for aides to presidential candidates. it is highly unusual. she considers herself some level after celebrity in some form, like "vogue" magazine. people are saying you should keep this off limits keep this off limits. if you're in "vogue" more than
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once. all that being said, this woman testified in front of the benghazi committee because there were questions what she knew regarding that night. these are real security issues. i think donald trump is actually raising a very, very important question and you can't help but think, oh, when huma abedin was hanging out with her husband did she talk about anything that happened during the day? what does he know? very obvious -- dagen: the bigger picture, i was sitting with a very strong southern woman, not my mother, who is undecided voter and she said the fact that hillary runs as an advocate for women makes me sick. she spent years letting people step on her, letting her husband step on her, only to then step up. that does not represent women. i think it does, what is going on here shines a light on that. harris: pete, i think you hit the nail on the head. we're not talking directly about hillary clinton and her road to the white house, if you will. we're talking about an aide who may or may not have had a tremendous amount of access to information.
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>> that could have been compromised. harris: she worked for the foundation and for hillary clinton. >> indeed. harris: very interesting. we'll cover the news as it happens on that. donald trump is getting ready for a big speech tomorrow in arizona on his immigration policy that speech, as you know was delayed earlier amid questions whether he is softening his stance. what he has to say to make his plan more clear. growing concerns about iran. the stunning numbers just how many dangerous confrontations our navy has had with the islamic republic over the past year. and what it all may say about that controversial nuclear deal. stay close.
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♪ meghan: donald trump is a day away from his much anticipated speech on immigration. many are hoping the republican nominee will clarify his policy tomorrow in arizona. in the last few weeks trump suggested his position is softening changing his promise
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to deport all undocumented immigrants to a narrowed focus on illegal criminals. trump tweeting hours ago, quote, from day one i said i would build a great wall on the southern border and much more. stop illegal immigration. stop wednesday. lisa, i'm going to you. seems like he has been softening a little bit, i want to know how he will be able to soften the stance on immigration but not angering the base of supporters? >> no matter what he does he will get hit. reality if he sticks with the original position on mass deportation, he will be labeled as inhumane by the left and mainstream media. if he changes his position to soften it on policy issues, not it is flip-flop. no matter what he does he will get a hit. there is ail lit about oversensationallism going on here with this. no matter what he says ultimately will be stronger than anything hillary clinton would put forth who is literally giving illegal immigrants a platform on the democratic national con committee convention platform and on the
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floor. secondly, if you look at issue hispanics care about in the country is jobs, education, comprehensive immigration reform, four is on issues they care about. >> that's right. you have to step back to look at the larger frame and the context he gives the speech. i will give lay out to details and they matter ultimately. the he will enforce laws, he will build a wall. he will make sure we have real sovereignty in our country, those still apply. he will have some level of a wall. deport some, some allowed to say, who knows. sanctuary cities are big deal among those who believe in the laws. he will lose a few hardcores but not ditch the wall. the question is can he pull in a few more. harris: from his surrogates in recent days, the theme we've gotten through him or through them, he is going to stick with the core idea of just enforcing the laws as they are on the books. that is somewhat of a departure
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from deporting 11 plus million people. >> sure. harris: however if he stuck to the6,000 or so convicted criminals in the united states, he would be somewhat mimicking what president obama is doing right now. i would assume he would upgrade that and do it expeditiously. i do think the challenge right now isn't for donald trump, it is for hillary clinton. quite frankly, outside of her website and a few ancillary mentions we haven't heard a direct big speech like this from hillary clinton, the other candidate. >> i don't think we will. harris: this week she is going to be talking about huma abedin and other things as we've seen. it is only tuesday. maybe she can shift gears. the he will give a big, important speech. can she toggle back to the issues on an issue that she hasn't given a big speech on yet? she will have to answer back with what, amnesty? she has it on her website but that is the not same. dagen: she will not answer on the issue of immigration. she can't discuss it. she is too concerned about winning latino vote. maybe trump can not do what
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george bush did, got 44% of the latino vote and fell off dramatically from the recent election. look at deportation numbers from president obama, he hit record number of deportations annually. he was actually deporting more illegal immigrants who weren't criminals, who were non-criminals. towards the end before they started backing off of it. i think to your point that as long as trump is coherent and he, all he is trying to say i'm, we're not going from home to home and raiding people's homes and putting people on buses and driving them out of -- >> that is the perception, right? i don't absolutely. driving them out of the country. he is trying to appeal to people who might be on the fence about him, those republicans. harris: growing concerns now about iran as dangerous confrontations with our navy are happening more and more frequently than previously thought. the defense official said provocations from the iranian officials and u.s. navy have nearly doubled in 2016 compared to the same time last year.
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there were four incidents just in the last week. first iranian ships got too close to the uss nitze. they ignored repeated radio, whistle and flair warnings. and only slowed down when they were 300 yards away. similar incidents followed involving the uss squall which ended up firing warning shots. and with the uss tempest and with the uss stout. in just past hour we tell you centcom commander weighed in on the provocation. >> iran's actions here are in the arabian gulf are unlike anybody else. no one else does what they do. what we see with the iranians is not particularly responsive. it is provocative in some cases and it is unsafe. it can lead to situations where we may not be able to de-escalate. harris: i was in the way, way back of the room at the pentagon briefing because i was here on the set couldn't see my hand in the air, to the centcom commanding general, was there
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anything you know about in that iran deal would lead them to believe these kinds of provocations would be a, tolerated and be b, more frequent? i don't know if he would say, i don't know what he would say. maybe -- >> stay within the bounds of what he is supposed to say. you say icbms. harris: get on the record asking question. the people defending our people on the water. >> when what you say publicly might be very different. harris: fine. >> we need to ask the type of questions. meghan: let's not spin this. we gave $400 million in secret airplane something out after weird deal, signed iran deal, gave 1.5 billion to these people. they have leverage. they're jerking us around. this is crazy, feckless foreign policy of the obama administration. i said it he have, said it again, this is above all else my grandchildren will feel re percussions of. dagen: our policy is to alienate our allies and placate our enemies, our gravest enemies on
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the planet earth. the list goes on, meghan. it is not just the money. we didn't enforce the red line in syria. iran threatened to walk away from the nuclear deal negotiations. it is ballistic missile test. they're doing more than thumbing your nose at the american people and it is disgusting. and again, death to america chanted over and over again. harris: two things about the deal you mentioned. that ballistic missile testing, lisa, is actually in violation of that deal. we saw that with samantha power at the u.n. she wanted to push forward with some sort of sanctions. where is that conversation now? >> exactly, harris. it flies in the face of international law. it is largely comes down to common sense. if you rewarded people for acting badly they will continue acting badly. you have experience with your kids i'm sure. harris: my parents are perfect, what you do mean? >> not your children we everyone aleses. look at we struck the deal, put
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our sailors on the ground, bend at their knees point a guns at their head and shot it for propaganda purposes. harris: what are they doing with that. >> hoping for new commander in chief to untie the hands. they don't fire warning shots for fun. we didn't do that in iraq or elsewhere, unless there was potential threat on the horizon. that is exactly what they were doing. dagen: once we're on our niece in front of them how does that change? harris: statue of our guys like that is in iran. dagen: ahmadinejad calling out president obama saying you have got $2 billion of iranian money. we want it back even though it is earmarked for the victims of iran's sponsored terrorism. they still want it back. harris: this idea of leverage, we were doing a huge deal with them. the world was watching this deal with iran. why did we need to give them $400 million with our people back? didn't they already respect the leverage we have. >> i thought we don't negotiate with terrorist and don't pay ransoms. if you want to get down with
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this, kayla mueller, arizona, killed by isis, we didn't pay ransom to get her back. she died. everything president obama done for seven 1/2 years, this by far makes my blood boil. it is hard not to get emotional about it. iran knows they can do whatever they want. we have a weak president who will not act, because he cares more about looking good, not getting into conflict and not doing anything. our enemies know they're weak. i pray to god whoever is next in leadership in the white house puts these people where they're supposed to be, right now, i mean, how vulnerable we are right now, it makes, actually makes me emotional. harris: pete, last word. >> there is unholy, russian, iranian access forming in the middle east in that region, totally emboldened by the barack obama and hillary clinton foreign policy that ran toward that iran deal and hit a reset button that only emboldened vladmir putin. if you want a change in foreign policy, you better not to in the direction of hillary clinton because you will receive more of
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the same. harris: he hired a top al qaeda recruiter. can't wait to get pete's take. he once praised the fort hood shooter. they say he is reformed and can now be trusted. we'll talk about it. better buckle up.
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he co-founded revolution muslim in 2008. that group praised nadal hassan for his attack at fort hood, texas, which killed 13 people. morton made threats against the creators of the tv show, south park, for depicting the prophet muhammad in a bear suit. he says his experience will help counterterrorism effort, saying quote, this is opportunity to make amends. to some degree i realize i was completely wrong with my perspectives. i suffer from tremendous amount of guilt. i have seen things that people have done. to know i once sympathized and supported that view, it sickens me. pete? >> well, listen, if he is being earnest at some level, of course this is good thing. people rejecting extremism. that is what we want. at another level, listen, i don't want a guy like that anywhere near a classroom on homeland security of the united states. they have tried a lot of this in western europe. so-called reformed former radicals. harris: how has it turned out?
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>> some have been reformed. others slightly modified the radicalism. they used to say jews are satan but now they just want to wipe israel off the map. one degree down is how moderate. i'm not talking about this guy, if you look at moderates, specially in europe of islam are not all that moderate when you look at their positions. i hope this guy at george washington is totally sorry and will change and will give insight to the radical mind. hey, you never know. harris: here is what i do know, more and more we cover attacks particularly on american soil, you have the boston bombers. you had orlando, these are people in their 20s. these are people who are of that age. if there is somebody who can tell us about the, what makes a terrorist or a would-be terrorist salivate at ideology being taught, if we can learn from that person i think it's a good thing but there are two things might have to happen. i know i'm going to get a whole lot of blowback on this, should we maybe pay more attention to this particular teacher on that
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campus than we might anybody else? do we breach his rights by wanting to know exactly what that curriculum will be on a day-by-day basis? >> that is common sense. harris: does he deserve a closer watch, and can he abide by that and live by that and not feel offended by that and profiled by that, to let those who learn from him get comfortable in that presence? >> i would be concerned with students just being in his presence or being around him, simply for the sense he was a recruiter. so his job was to identify people that potentially are weak, that are vulnerable, could be receptive to the message driving radicalization and i think that is the big problem. isis is targeting young people. they are targeting people who feel isolated and who are vulnerable. i don't want to take any page out of what europe is doing in regards to the way they dealt with muslim extremism, radical islamic extremism the way they dealt with terror. areas like molenbeek where some
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isis fighters. meghan: you guys are being really nice this is crazy. this is beyond come from he hen shun. i'm sure people work at colleges get paid six figures. you can't find somebody else used to be part of al qaeda hanging out in washington d.c. at george washington university. when i went to columbia, there were controversial professors, but there were no al qaeda recruiters. this is pc crazy stuff. you guys are being much nicer than i would. harris: there is nothing to indicate he would be in classroom on day-by-day basis and doing this research. my comments were specifically what he would be doing and who he would have access to. that sort of thing. dagen: i look at it like this. at least we know about it because i can think of plenty of universities that would have swept this under the rug and tried to high the ties. harris: we could learn from him. >> if he is truly apologetic and truly reformed wants to help the west we can learn from him. if he will dabble in islamism
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light, that is real problem. meghan: how can i not worry about it. what is mean former recruiter to now -- harris: how are you going to know that? >> is it now he wants israel expunged off the map like, i mean it is just crazy. harris: we could go on about this. dagen: to teach us to fight extremism or teach people to be sim threatic to it. dangerous. growing backlash to nfl quarterback colin kaepernick's refusal to stand during the national anthem because of what he considers unpunished police brutality. cops calling for the nfl and 49ers to denounce him. when free speech may go too far? better buckle up.
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harris: more "outnumbered" in just a moment. we're having food time but we'll have a good time in an hour with jenna lee. >> i hope so. thank you, harris. as you noted one of the big news developments today the fbi will turn over some notes into their investigation of hillary clinton's use of a private email server. the fbi decided against filing charges in that case. these notes may shed light on why. catherine herridge is with us at top of the hour with new information. also mike pence campaigning today in georgia as donald trump is fund-raising out west. we'll talk about the state of the race and drill down on mr. trump's immigration plans. we're tracking several big storms including two that can
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impact the u.s. mainland. one hurricane that will impact hawaii. the janice dean has the forecast coming up at top of the hour. harris: we're in the middle of that season. we'll be watching. thank you, jenna. >> more "outnumbered." the backlash intensifying over 49ers quarterback colin kaepernick's refusal to stand for the national anthem as part after protest of alleged police brutality against blacks. the police officers's association firing off a angry letter urging the nfl and the 49ers to denounce kaepernick's foolish attacks on police. it shows, quote, regarding lack of knowledge of officer-involved shootings and shows naivete and objectivity towards police officers. former 49ers great jerry rice tweeting, quote, all lives matter. so much going on in this world today. can we all just get along? colin i respect your stance but don't disrespect the flag.
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the people looking for part two on harris faulkner's take on this after yesterday. harris: i felt pretty strongly about this still do. >> what do you think about it? police are pushing back. harris: i have questions in my mind how the place that he has made his fortune, made his dreams come true, the nfl, has treated other issues. for instance, when players wanted to recognize and respect the five officers who were gunned down in dallas, texas, that show in the nfl show was not going to be tolerated. that was not going to be allowed. yet they let a member of their coveted brotherhood, if you will, take a knee on the bench when it comes to our own american flag. the question i asked yesterday, i did not mean to intim mate that he doesn't care about women, i'm saying if he is going to sit down on one issue, why can't he sit down on the issues that are prevalent in his own house, the nfl? the domestic violence charges against nfl players. i don't see those guys gathering
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at centerfield i will sit out the national anthem because women are being abused. i think that's a fare question. so i think kaepernick doesn't like women? i don't know. i never met the men. i don't know how he feels about #blm. he is sitting out national anthem and this is the reason. >> if we all sat down had a problem with the country -- harris: i would never get up off the couch. >> we all know it is imperfect. dagen, uniform code in nfl is nine-pages long. you can't change small things. they regulate the heck out of it. dagen: remember the dallas cowboys wanted decal honoring the slain police officers and nfl wouldn't let them wear it during the season. >> indeed. couldn't have it on the helmet. should nfl fine him? you could at least stand up for the anthem. dagen: absolutely. i looked at that, thought, there you go, he is exercising his constitutional right to be a hot steaming bag of garbage. >> he is. dagen: that is how i felt about it. remember the players who hands up, don't shoot, they were not,
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they were not reprimanded for that. harris: that was narrative turned out not to be true. dagen: it was complete lie and a falsehood and nothing happened. >> the idea there is somehow racial bias in police shooting has been dispelled as fiction. there is danger here for society, mainstream media, corporations to let this false narrative continue to be perpetuated because there police officers lives at risk. we've seen it from people like him. seen it from people like beyonce and people allow it and society allows it. mainstream media allow it and corporations allow it. there is a big problem. there are police lives at stake. it needs to be dispelled as fiction. call it out for what it is which is fiction. >> is it there a double-standard in the nfl where these kind of protests are okay, but small stuff they're fined with tens of thousands of dollars. meghan: hang out with veterans who lost limbs fighting for freedom. i don't know people like this. i don't know people that don't
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respect the flag and america. i hope it ruins his life and career. i hope all the endorsements leave. you can say anything you want in this country but there are repercussion what is you say and do. harris: i will say this. there are pockets in this country, blacks, people of color don't feel safe when they are pulled over. that is just reality. there is violence there. but there are bad apples in every sigment of society, not just police departments. we need to find those no matter what their issues are and root them out. dagen: kaepernick doing this doesn't help get that message out. harris: we'll be right back. hi, i'm dominique wilkins.
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