ebony, katherine and andrew. studio audience. i'm greg gutfeld. i love you, america. instagram. remember, i'm watters, and this sm is my world. hello and welcome to "justice." i'm melissa francis filling in today for judge jeanine pirro. thanks for joining us. we begin with donald trump. making his case directly to african-american voters on saturday, appearing at a church in detroit. trump spoke to the congregation and promised to bring jobs back to minority communities and to reverse democratic policies that he says have failed african-americans. >> i'm here today to learn so that we can together remedy injustice in any form and so that we can also remedy economics so that the

african-american community can benefit economically. nothing is more sad than when we sideline young black men with unfulfilled potential, tremendous potential. i met some people this morning that were incredible people and they're looking for jobs. these are incredible people, young people. our whole country loses out when we're unable to harness the brilliance and the energy of these folks. we're one nation, and when anyone hurts, we all hurt together, and that's so true. so true. >> the event was not without protests. several people gathered outside the church chanting against trump. few clashed with police. afterward trump and ben carson toured carson's old neighborhood in detroit and visited his childhood home.

the question is will he resonate with black voters, a community in which he is far behind hillary clinton in the poles. how did he do today? what do you think he accomplished? >> i think he did fantastic today. the feedback that i've already received was people love to see that donald trump, the donald trump that i've known for over a decade. he is a man who does listen to people. he heard the hopes and the dreams and the issues that were affecting african-americans, and he went into that community and he was open-minded and just poured his heart and soul out and said i'm here to help. i will create jobs for you. >> it is a tough sell. he is way behind with african-american voters and some say why do this as opposed to going to florida, going to a swing state, courting another group of voters where he might have a better chance? >> well, that's a great question and the answer is because mr. trump cares about all americans. not just african-americans but

all americans, and he heard they were desperately looking for help. heard the hopes of them and he said, let me go in. i might be misunderstood. he went in, shared his heart and soul. shared the message that we're all brothers and sisters with one god regardless of our colors and i think it was a home run and i thought it was perfect and that's the donald trump that i know, the man that really loves people. >> okay. i understand his message that within the inner city if you look at the plight of people who have been abandoned there for a long time, struggling, trying to get ahead, that the policies of democrats have failed them, but what specifically does he want to do differently? >> he wants to create jobs. >> how? >> by having a better economy, by keeping people coming into

the country illegally, keeping the illegal ones out of the country so these young men who don't have jobs, are desperate and don't have food on the table, who said they're on the streets, he said he was seeing people sitting on the streets, desperate, despair, no hope -- >> what kind of example is it that an illegal immigrant is doing in detroit when you say people are sitting on the street. what's a job they would want to do that an illegal immigrant is doing right now in that city? >> maybe a tile man. i don't know. i haven't asked mr. trump this. i know in my state there are people here that are doing jobs that a lot of college kids would do, electricians, carpentry. there's a long list of various different jobs and mr. trump realizes the reason why we're so divided is because hillary and the obama economy has failed us, not just african-americans, but americans.

and with a bad economy, meaning no jobs, people get desperate and do desperate things, sell drugs, become criminals, hurt one another, and mr. trump is just -- he's a job creator. i know this firsthand. he employs tens of thousands of people. he will create jobs for all cities but he realizes detroit right now is a city that's on the radar that is in desperate need. >> people say that he's there and they accuse him of pandering, that he got the questions in advance and he worked on the answers and that it was very much staged for the cameras as opposed to being sincere. how would you respond to that? >> let me tell you what. mr. trump is very sincere. he's not pandering. he realizes we're all americans. wants every american voter. he's saying look at what hillary and obama have given you. nothing. we're at a deficit. the poverty level is over 26%. the unemployment rate is double that. that is thanks to president obama, and if hillary clinton is

elected, that's what you all have to get again. that's what you will get again. he's the most sincere man i know. mr. trump is in there. going into an unknown territory is very dangerous. i think it shows leadership. i think it shows a strong leader who listens and who learns and that's what i want in my next president. >> what is the response in the next campaign about all we've learned in hillary clinton's interview with the fbi yesterday? >> excuse me? >> what is the response from the campaign to all that we learned from hillary clinton's interview with the fbi yesterday, all those details released where she said she didn't recall her training, didn't know what the "c" meant on the various e-mails. was there a response from the campaign on that today? >> absolutely. hillary clinton is disqualified from becoming -- for running for presidency. she should be 100% disqualified and the american people are smart.

that's why her numbers are going down and mr. trump's numbers are going up. people realize what they're getting with her. that's a person who lied and was extremely careless with all of our security. >> tania goertz. we appreciate it. my next guest is also a fox news contributor. it's pleasure to have you on the show. >> melissa, thank you. hello, hi. >> good to see you. this is a tough message that donald trump is bringing and it's one i heard echoed from ben carson as well, the idea that democratic policies, they may be well intentioned, but they have done more to hobble the community rather than to lift it up. do you agree with that or what do you think? >> these are the moments i have longed for throughout this campaign, to see the platforms in front of us and to have a chance to examine those and to find out what those solutions are.

now, platform of the democrats is let's give you more abortions, more birth control, and lock everybody up who is committing crimes and that's going to make america better. that plat form is not full of hope. the platform that mr. trump is leading says let's give more jobs. let's to better with education. let's get the jobs back to americans first. he's not pushing the immigrants out who are legal but to open up more jobs and opportunities. i was listening to the question what does that look like. young african-americans can get into trades. like lerk trish electricians and plumbers and all of that. many had to drop out of school. then they can take part of their earnings and become entrepreneurs.

what better example than to have a president who succeeded and has done that. one thing, mr. trump in the golden years of his life wants to help all americans. he surrounds himself with those who know how to succeed in america and they actually have put aside their retirement and vacation to help america. oh, my god. this is a golden moment. >> but it can be hard to hear the message from him specifically. i mean people accuse him of pandering. last time he went out he was trying to make the point about school choice and saying hillary clinton is against school choice and why should inner city kids not have a choice when healthy affluent white kids have a choice. no matter what he said, it was taken out of context and he made a comment about hillary clinton

is a bigot for not wanting that choice so that's what people focused on. it's hard for him to deliver that message. what advice would you give him so he's better heard? >> isn't there a wonderful saying don't shoot the messenger, listen to the message. when i say school choice, i just mean every american simply needs a good education so they can use their minds and their hands to make america better, so they can invest in america. right now school choice is an excellent platform for that because we all know when you bring in a program like school choice it makes the public schools get better because they have to compete with the other alternative. he knows competition and he says we're going to let the best educators compete and come to the table and give america's children better education. and so when he puts it in that language, america will definitely get that. >> do you think it's realistic to think he would get more

minority votes at this point? he's been painted as a racist. that message has been sent through the mainstream media, and at this point it seems like no matter what his intentions are, it's difficult to win that vote back. >> melissa, there are essentially polls out there and i can give you some real case studies of my cellphone, facebook, twitter, and things ringing and people are saying i need to take another look at donald trump. say forget the personality. look at the platform. african-americans can think, reason like all americans can. when people begin to look at that platform and understand -- you know, he's really putting his money and his heart where his mouth is. he's going into these neighborhoods. he's asking how many times have we ever heard a presidential candidate go and say -- ask african-americans will you vote for me. the democrats take it for

granted. here's man who says, i want your vote, i care about you, let me help. i'm not endorsing any candidate. i pray, i look at the platforms. i do vote pro-life. so that's just where we are. i believe he's got my attention. i believe he's going to have the attention of america, not just african-americans. >> would you send him into other cities? where do you think he should go next? >> i believe that he will continue to visit all of the communities of america. that's going to be every ethnic group. no color blind. he's going to take off his glasses and see what america needs. begin to answer. listen to america and answer and we're going to embrace the ethnicity of all of america. this is a melting pot. it's time for the food to smell good and i believe mr. trump can help. >> okay. alveda king, thanks for coming on.

trump's push for african american voters comes on the heels of another interesting day for hillary clinton. the fbi released a report relating to her july interview with the bureau about her private e-mail server. and all of those classified e-mails. joining me now former democratic hillary clinton adviser richard goodstein. thanks for coming back this week. let me ask you. what did you think of the information that came out yesterday? specifically some of the things that caught my attention, the idea that she didn't know what the "c" for classified meant. i think all of us know. we never have been trained or held government office. >> yeah. you know, i think when hillary clinton -- let's think back. eight years is not that ancient history. when she became secretary of state, the world was going to hell in a hand basket. the economy was tanking, the u.s.'s reputation -- >> it was a month or two ago when she sat down for an interview with james comey when she didn't know what the "c" meant. she thought it meant "a," "b," "c" like a bullet point.

>> it's funny. donald trump didn't they know david duke or -- >> i don't -- hang on one second. is it reasonable she's supposed to be the secretary of state and in charge of all of this classified information and all of us out there who read the newspaper know what the "c" means and she doesn't. that's either gross incompetence or she's not telling the truth. it's just astonishing. >> again, i have to use this as a frame of reference. her republican antagonists had her for 11 1/2 hours in that benghazi committee. if they thought there was an achilles -- >> we've got to stick to the e-mail thing. that's what this topic is about. >> fine. that was about e-mails too. >> she doesn't know what the "c" meant.

they downloaded e-mails to a laptop and stuck it in the mail and it got lost in the mail. that's their excuse as to what happened to many of the e-mails that have now disappeared and can't be retraced. to me that's either really gross incompetence or they're lying. >> right. so, again, all this talk about the e-mails that she did not disclose because they were personal, right? we don't know i've read that thing cover to cover that the fbi released yesterday and, yes, there were people who in retrospect didn't do everything they wish they had done to preserve things and so forth. but as far as the documents are concerned, and i think that's what we're referring to -- >> i think what we're talking about is would you ever stick a laptop in an envelope and hand it to the postman? i mean in what world would anyone ever do that, richard?

that is the most bizarre story. i mean i feel like that's one of my kids coming to me and telling me what happened to their laptop. that's ridiculous. if they did, there's really something wrong with their brain. >> right, again, how is that imputed to hillary clinton's competence to be president of the united states, what somebody on her staff did who's a tech guy, right? look. the fact of the matter is as i often heard said on this air, there's a binary choice. she may not be the most tech-savvy person in the world. republican opponents of donald trump as we know called him racist, bigot, con artist. that's their choice. i agree. if they want someone to run technology for the country -- >> does it concern you that she can't remember her security training or if she had it because she said she fell and she hit her head? are you worried she's brain dead? >> no. that's a mischaracterization. she spoke for 11 1/2 hours. donald trump held a debate for 2 1/2 hours when he was only going to talk for 15 minutes.

she was on the hot seat for 11 1/2 hours. >> that would make me think she's lying. i agree with you. i don't think it's true she can't remember. i agree with you. i think she's lying then. >> all she said is after she had her concussion there were briefings that she didn't remember or didn't receive. you know who else didnen he was hospitalized. ronald reagan. when you're hospitalized, you miss briefings. we've seen her on the world stage, in the hearing. we've seen her operate. if the trump campaign wants to go after her, that's something she would gladly have. let me ask you about the recent polls which by all accounts are closing. why do you think it's happening? do you think it's this conversation of the e-mails and all that is weighing on her, her numbers have gone down.

do you think it's a steadier message from donald trump? how would you explain the tightening in all of the polls? >> the fact of the matter is, if you look at the real politics, that's what chris wallace always refers to, her lead was 4 points. before the convention it was smaller than that. after all is said and done, going up and down and bumps, she is has a bigger margin today than before the conventions. >> it's been shrinking since the end of the convention. she was way ahead and now it's closing up. you're not concerned. i understand. thank you, appreciate your time. gop pollster lee carter is up next on how donald trump was able to tighten things up in the polls this week and how what he needs to do to push the still undecided voters over the fence. and later the nfl starting

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canonization mass of mother teresa is beginning at st. peter's square in vatican city. this mass elevating mother teresa to a saint. she spent her life working with the poor in i said i can'tndia. the church recognizes her as having performed two miracles. we go live to vatican city. ♪ >> all sharing the broadcast and participating here live in st. peter's square. you can hear the choir in the background i hope. it's there to welcome pope francis who has just come from the main doors, made his way to

this beautiful altar where he is at this very moment -- the opening rite, the beginning of holy mass for this particular sunday. this is the ordinary sunday mass with extremely appropriate readings to sum up mother teresa's life. the rite of canonization is very brief. it will take place just in a few moments and then will begin the liturgy. many people think this is a long, long rite and it's actually basically saying, folks, this is what we've nokno for a long time and we're confirming. and we'll see father brian, a canadian, a member of the

missionaries of charity fathers. he's also the superior general and certainly a spiritual son of mother. mother pinned a cross on him when he was a young man. father brian's sister is a member of the missionaries of charity. and he said what are you putting this cross on me for and mother saw him the next day and she said i'll tell you why. [ speaking italian ] ♪

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>> beautiful how it begins by invoking the holy spirit. >> holy spirit is the architect of the celebration and certainly a great, great figure in the life of mother teresa. >> many people may be more familiar with that that hymn in its english version. holy spirit -- holy father, holy matter of church, bless teresa of calcutta that she may be invoked as such by all christian

faithful. this humble nun affectionately calling her mother teresa is the blessed soul that we're presenting to you so that the wish for canonization the whole world might ask her intercession and imitate her in charitable works. throughout her life following the example of christ the good samaritan, she was also close to anyone she encountered who was in immediate, sharing in the suffering of those who live on the extreme outskirts of society and witnessing to god's boundless love for his people.

the cardinal says he begins with her date and place of birth. blessed mother of theresa was born about august 26, 1910 to a family of albanian origin. she became ever more active in her parish while her vocation to give herself totally to the lord grew, leaving her family, she was received as a postulane near tub lynn. sent to india, he she took the name of teresa.e near

tub lynn. sent to india, he she took the name of teresa.te near tub lynn. sent to india, he she took the name of teresa. she served as a teacher near calcutta.he she took the name of teresa. she served as a teacher near calcutta.e she took the name of teresa. she served as a teacher near calcutta. she took the name of teresa. she served as a teacher near calcutta. while traveling by train, she received what she would define as the call within the call, an intuition to begin a religious institute that would satisfy the infinite thirst of jesus on the cross, by working for the salvation and sanctification of the poorest of the poor. and so she founded the congregation of the missionary sisters of charities, which she later added the missionaries of charity brothers, lay organizations and the movement opened to the diocesan priesthood. mother teresa was tireless,

dedicating herself completely to announcing the gospel through various charitable and aid works to the needy. with no distinction of rank, religion or race. at the heart of all of her initiatives, she placed the daily celebrations of the holy mass, eucharistic adoration, prayer, the great spirit of universal love that inspired her to see and serve jesus in the poor. heroic evangelical witness won theed a more rigs of the highest authorities in the church and the world. in 1979, she was awarded the nobel peace prize.

she died september 5, 1997 enveloped in an immense solid and unanimous odor of sanctity. >> i love that. beautiful phrase. enveloped in an immense solid and unanimous odor of sanctity. i don't think anyone listening or watching doubts that that was the case. >> now the holy father will pronounce the formula. very simple. and we see in the crowd many of her sisters . there are about 250 sisters that have come representing all of the houses. and the others can't all come because they have to care for the poor. >> there are about 3900 sisters around the world.

let's listen to the holy father. [ speaking italian ] >> dear brothers and sister, let us lift up our prayers to goods the father all mighty that through the intercession of the blessed virgin mary and all the saints, he must sustain with his grace the act which we now solemnly undertake and now the litany of the saints. ♪

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>> we ask you lord graciously to accept the prayers of your people, that our devoted service may be pleasing to you and contribute to the growth of your church through christ our lord. >> and now the actual formula of c canonization.

for the honor of the blessed trinity, the exultation of the catholic faith and the increase of the christian life by the authority of our lord jesus christ and of the holy apostles peter and paul, after frequent prayer and having sought the counsel of many of our brother bishops, we declare and define blessed teresa of calcutta to be a saint, we enroll her among the saints, decreeing that she is to be venerated as such by the whole church in the name of the father, and of the son, and the holy spirit. amen.

♪ >> the applause broke out there even before the holy father had finished proceed he announcing the formula of canonization. as he said the words pronouncing her as saint, people already began to applaud. and we're seeing now the huge painting of mother teresa which adorns the central balcony of the basilica. >> a stunning image. i was with the artist on friday and thanks to the knights of columbus, that order that worked with an american artist who did a splendid job. this is one of the many contributions of the knights to the royal church, but this particular image captures her in a regardimarkable way. first of all, the radiant smile. and the other thing that struck me are the weathered and wrinkled hands with the rose rr

rosary in her hansd. it's a stunning image and of course the halo to confirm what the world has known for a long time. thousand now we see the procession of the relic. it's very much in the form and people ask what is the relic, it's a large vial of blood. she gave her life and her blood for christ. and that particular gift is in the form of a cross with a host in the middle of it because it was the eucharist that really drew mother teresa. she took her energy from the eucharist and the whole theme of her congregation is pious thirst. the mission of the sisters is to satiate the thirst of christ.

and the older sister carrying the relic, she was one of the first to visit during the mother he's lifetime. and she knew the mother very well. relics are an porn par importan the tradition of the saints mopping us. >> and the blood contained in a vial in the form of literally a drop of blood. but it's simple and ornate at the same time. it's made out of wood. the wood comes from different sources. >> the pieces of wood are taken from different countries in which the charities served. it's very simple. it's not ornate gold, but this speaks of the people she has served. an there is the image. the rosary, the hands and the

gentle smile. she really is the saint of the peripheries. she came from the peripheries herself and she spent her life on the peripheries. she literally picked people up and she brought them back to life. you knew her and you have many, many wonderful experiences of her. >> i can did indeed. i remember some of the things that she said she would always talk about the pure heart, a heart that is free, free to give, to love until it hurts. that was one of her favorite phrases. service as being love and loving until it hearts. the pure heart that serves. and that's i think the sense of the heart. these two curved forms on either side of the cross. the blue and white of the sari rngts b but also representing the heart that gives its undivided love.

>> and the large heart is the cedar. the choice of that, mother teresa opened up a house in beirut in the middle of a war. there are images of her walking in the middle of the war zone where no one wanted to go, she went there. and the cedar of lebanon of course in biblical terms is a symbol of kn symb symbol of nobelity. the mission to become tdisciple to bring the beauty of the lord to others. i will gather toegether all of the small branches. very beautifully thought out. there it is. >> where will it be placed? >> the relics presented here i believe are kept here in the

vatican and then there are small relics that have been distributed around the world, one which is very important in the whole miracle process for the brazilian man that we met the other day. and we thank the artist and knights of columbus for providing it. [ speaking italian ] >> most holy father, in the name of the holy church, i thank your holiness for making this proclamati proclamation. and humbly request that you decree that the apostolic letter concerning the act of canonization be drawn up. >> and the pope responds we so decree. >> i don't think there was ever a doubt. >> no one doubts that there was ever a doubt. and that concludes the canonization ceremony. it truly is that simple. >> sets the tone and we go now

to the gloria and liturgy of the world for this sunday. so of course the 23rd sunday in ordinary time. ♪ ♪

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>> let us pray. o god by whom we are redeemed and received a adoption, look graciously upon your beloved sons and daughters, that those who believe in christa adoption graciously upon your beloved sons and daughters, that those who believe in christ may receive true freedom and an ever lastingen inheritance. through our lord jesus christ your son, one god forever and ever. and now we move to the lit you are glits you are gi of the world. these are the sunday readings today for the 23rd sunday in ordinary time. >> and the theme of the reading,

who can define the will of the lord. 13:2-18. >> reading from the book of wisdom. what man can know the intentions of god? who can divine the will of the lord? the reasonings of mortals are up sure and our sbepgss unstable. for a perishable body presses down the souls and it sent of clay weighs down the teeming mind. it is hard enough for us to work out what is on earth, laborious to know what lies within our reach, who then can discover

what is in the heavens. as for your intentions, who could have learned it had you not granted wisdom and sent your holy spirit from above. thus have the paths of those on earth been straightened and men been taught what pleases you and saved by wisdom. ♪

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♪ >> the second reading will be read for us in spanish.

it's the reading that is taken from the letter of st. paul. in case you don't have access or you don't understand spanish, this is paul writing an old man now what is more still a prisoner of christ jesus, i'm appealing to you for a child of mine whose father i became while wearing these chains. i'm sending him back to you and with him i could say a part of my whole self. shy like to keep him with me, he could have been a substitute for you to help me while i am in chains, but the good news has brought me. however, i did not want do anything without your consent. it would have forced your agent of kindness which should be spontaneous. i know you have been deprived for a time, but it was only so that you could have him back

forever, not as a slave anymore, but something much better than slave. a dear brother, especially dear to me. but how much more to you as a blood brother as well as a brother in love. so in all that we have if common means anything to you, welcome him as you would me. ♪

♪ ♪ alleluia, alleluia, alleluia >> as we prepare for hear the proclamation of the gospel, the gospel proclamation, let your faith shine on your servant, teach me your decree. the servers at this liturgy are members of the missionaries of charity which father brian is