instagram. remember i'm watters, and this smie is my world. hello and welcome to hello and welcome to "justice." i'm melissa francis filling in today for judge jeanine pirro. thanks for being with us. abusy hour ahead. we begin with donald trump. making his case directly to african-american voters on saturday, appearing at a church in detroit. trump spoke to the congregation and promised to bring jobs back to minority communities and to reverse democratic policies that he says have failed african-americans. >> i'm here today to learn so that we can together remedy injustice in any form and so that we can also remedy

economics so that the african-american community can benefit economically. nothing is more sad than when we sideline young, black men with unfulfilled potential. tremendous potential. i met some people this morning that were incredible people, and they're looking for jobs. these are incredible people, young people. our whole country loses out when we're unable to harness the brilliance and the energy of these folks. we're one nation, and when anyone hurts, we all hurt together, and that's so true. so true. >> the event was not without protests. several groups gathered outside the church chanting against trump. few clashed with police. afterward trump and ben carson toured his old neighborhood in detroit and visited his childhood home. so the question is will donald

trump's message resonate with black voters a community in which he is far behind hillary clinton in the holes how did he do today? senior adviser tana gertz joins me now. what do you think he accomplished? >> i think he did fantastic today. the feedback that i've already received was people love to see that donald trump, the donald trump that i've known for over a decade. he is a man who does listen to people. he heard the hopes and the dreams and the issues that were affecting african-americans, and he went into that community and he was open-minded and just poured his heart and soul out and just said i'm here to help. i will create jobs for you. >> it is a tough sell. he is way behind with african-american voters and some say why do this as opposed to going to florida, going to a swing state, courting another group of voters where he might have a better chance? >> well, that's a great question and the answer is because mr. trump cares about all americans.

not just african-americans but all americans, and he heard they were desperately looking for help. he heard the hopes of them and he said, let me go in. i might be misunderstood. he is misunderstood with the protesters out front. mr. trump went if. he shared his heart and soul. he sheared that his mess and was we're all brothers and sisters with one god regardless of our colors and i thought it was a home run and i thought it was perfect and that's the donald trump that i know, the man that really loves people. >> okay. i understand his message that within the inner city if you look at the plight of people who have been abandoned there for a long time, struggling, trying to get ahead, that the policies of democrats have failed them. but what specifically does he want to do differently? >> he wants to create jobs. >> how? >> at the end of -- by having a better economy, by keeping people coming into the country

illegally. keeping them out of our country so that all these african-american young men he's talking about who don't have jobs who are desperate and don't have a way of putting food on the table, who said they're on the streets, he said he was seeing people sitting on the streets, desperate, despair, no hope -- >> what kind of job is it that an illegal immigrant is doing in detroit when you say people are sitting on the street? what's a job they would want to do that an illegal immigrant is doing right now in that city? >> maybe a tile man. i don't know. i haven't asked mr. trump this. i know in my state there are people here that are doing jobs that a lot of college kids would do, electricians, carpentry. there's a long list of various different jobs, and mr. trump realizes the reason why we're so divided is because hillary and the obama economy has failed us, not just african-americans, but americans.

and with a bad economy, meaning no jobs, people get desperate and do desperate things, sell drugs, become criminals, hurt one another, and mr. trump is just -- he's a job creator. i know this first hand. he employs tens of thousands of people. he will create jobs for all cities but he realizes detroit right now is a city that's on the radar that is in desperate need. >> people say that he's there and they accuse him of pandering, that he got the questions in advance and he worked on the answers and that it was very much staged for the cameras as opposed to being sincere. how do you respond to that? >> let me tell you what. mr. trump is very sincere. he's not pandering. he realizes we're all americans. he wants every american voter. he's saying, look at what hillary and obama have given you. nothing. we're now at a deficit. the poverty level is over 26%. the unemployment rate is double that. that is thanks to president

obama. and if hillary clinton is elected, that's what you all have to get again. that's what you will get again. he's the most sincere man i know. mr. trump is in there. i mean going into an unknown territory is very dangerous. i think it shows leadership. i think it shows a strong leader who listens and who learns and that's what i want in my next president. >> what is the response in the next campaign about all we've learned in hillary clinton's interview with the fbi yesterday? >> excuse me? >> what is the response to the campaign from that we learned from hillary clinton's interview with the fbi yesterday, all those details were released showing that she didn't recall her training that she didn't know what the "c" meant on the various e-mails. is there a response from the campaign to that today? >> absolutely. hillary clinton is disqualified from becoming -- for running for presidency. she should be 100% disqualified and the american people are smart.

that's why her numbers are going down and mr. trump's numbers are going up. people realize exactly what they're getting with her. that's a person who lied and was extremely careless with all of our security. >> tana goertz thank you so much for joining us. we appreciate it. >> thank you. my next guest is also a fox news contributor. she's also a -- she joins me now. it's a pleasure to have you on the show. >> melissa, thank you. hello, hi. >> good to see you. this is a tough message that donald trump is bringing, and it's one i heard echoed from ben carson, as well. the idea that democratic policies, they may be well intentioned, but they have done more to hobble the community rather than to lift it up. do you agree with that or what do you think? >> these are the moments i have longed for throughout this campaign, to see the platforms in front of us and to have a

chance to examine those and to find out what those solutions are. now, the platform of the democrats headed up with mrs. hillary clinton is let's give you more abortions, birth control, pass out more birth control in all of this lock up everybody's doing crime and that's going to make america better. the platform that mr. trump is leading says let's give more jobs. let's do better. let's do more with education. let's give jobs to americans first. he's not pushing the immigrants out who are legal but to open up more jobs and opportunities. i was listening to the question what does that look like. well young, african-americans, of course can get back into some trades. like the electricity and all of those electricians and plumbers and all of that. many had to drop out of school. not trained. so they really need some good education and then they can take

part of their earnings and invest those earnings and become entrepreneurs. what better example of an opportunity for entrepreneurship than a president that's succeeded and done that? one thing, mr. trump in the golden years of his life wants to help all americans. he surround himself with leaders like dr. ben carson many leaders he surrounds himself with who know how to succeed in america and they actually have put aside their own retirement and vacation to help america. oh, my god. this is a golden moment. >> but it can be hard to hear the message from him specifically. i mean, people accuse him of pandering. last time he went out he was out making a speech he was trying to make the point about school choice and saying hillary clinton is against school choice and why should inner city kids not have a choice when healthy affluent white kids have a choice. and that was -- you know no matter what he said, it was taken out of context and he made

the comment about that hillary clinton's a bigot for not wanting that choice for inner city kids and that's what people focus on. it's hard for him to deliver that message. what advice would you give him so he's better heard? >> isn't there a wonderful thing don't shoot the messenger? listen to the message. i believe that as he explains when i say school choice i just mean that every american simply needs a good education so that they can use their minds and their hands to make america better. so that they can invest in america. right now school choice is an excellent platform for that because we all know when you bring in a program like school choice it makes the public schools get better because they have to compete with the other alternative. competition he gets. he knows competition and he says we're going to let the best educator compete and come to the table and give america's children better education. and so when he puts it in that language, america will definitely get that. >> do you think it's realistic to think he would get more

minority votes at this point? he has been painted as a racist by a lot of the electorate, whether that's accurate or not. that message has been sent through the mainstream media, and at this point it seems like no matter what his intentions are, it's difficult to win that vote back. >> melissa, there are several polls out there and i can give you some real case studies of my cell phone, my twitter, my facebook things ringing and people are now saying i need to take another look at donald trump. i say forget the personality. look at the platform. african-americans can think, reason like all americans can. when people begin to look at that platform and understand -- you know, he's really putting his money and his heart where his mouth is. he's going into these neighborhoods. he's asking, how many times have we ever heard a presidential candidate go and say -- african-americans will you vote for me.

the democrats take it for granted. here's man who says, i want your vote, i care about you, let me help. now i'm not endorsing any candidates. i pray, i look at the platforms. i do vote pro-life. so that's just where we are. i believe he's got my attention. i believe he's going to have the attention of america, not just african-americans. >> do you think he has to do more of this? would you send him into other cities? where do you think he should go next? >> i believe that he will continue to visit all of the communities of america. that's going to be every ethnic group. no color blind. he's going to take off his glasses and see clearly what america needs. begin to answer. listen to america and answer and we're going to embrace the ethnicity of all of america. this is a melting pot. it's time for the stew to smell good and i believe mr. trump can help. >> okay. alveda king, thanks for coming on. we appreciate it.

>> thanks for the opportunity. trump's push for african-american voters comes on the heels of another interesting day for hillary clinton. the fbi released a report relating to her july interview with the bureau about her private e-mail server and all of those classified e-mails. joining me now former democratic hillary clinton adviser richard goodstein. rip around -- richard, thanks for coming back this. let me ask you. what did you think of the information that came out yesterday? specifically some of the things that caught my attention, the idea that she didn't know what the "c" for classified meant. i think all of us know. we never have been trained or held government office. >> yeah. you know, i think when hillary clinton -- let's think back. eight years is not that ancient history. when she became secretary of state, the world was going to hell in a hand basket. the economy was tanking, the u.s. reputation -- >> it was a month or two ago when she was sitting down for

an interview with james comey when she didn't know what the "c" meant. she thought it meant "a," "b," "c" like a bullet points. >> it's funny. donald trump -- >> i don't -- hang on one second. we're trying to talk about is it reasonable -- hang on a second. is it reasonable she's supposed to be the secretary of state and in charge of all of this classified information and all of us out there who read the newspaper know what the "c" means and she doesn't. that's either gross incompetence or she's not telling the truth. it's just astonishing. >> right. so you know again, i just have to use this as a frame of reference. her republican antagonists had her for 11 1/2 hours in that benghazi committee. if they thought there was an achilles -- >> can we -- we've got to stick to the e-mail thing. >> that's about e-mails, too.

>> that's what this topic is about. fine. that was about e-mails too. >> she doesn't know what the "c" meant. they downloaded e-mails to a laptop and stuck it in the mail and it got lost in the mail. that's their excuse as to what happened to many of the e-mails that have now disappeared and can't be retraced. to me that's either really gross incompetence or they're lying. >> right. so again, all this talk about the e-mails that she did not disclose because they were personal, right? we don't know. i've read that thing cover to cover that the fbi released yesterday. and yes, there were people who in retrospect didn't do everything i think they wish they had done to preserve things and so forth. but as far as the documents are concerned, and i think that's personal -- >> i think what we're talking about is would you ever stick a laptop in an envelope and hand it to the postman? i mean, in what world would anyone ever do that, richard? that's the most bizarre story.

i mean, i feel like that's one of my kids coming to me and telling me what happened to their laptop. it's ridiculous. no one would do that. if they did, there's really something wrong with their brain. >> right. again, how is that imputed to hillary clinton's competence to be president of the united states? what somebody on her staff did who's a tech guy, right? look. the fact of the matter is as i often heard said on this air, there's a binary choice. hillary clinton may not be the most tech-savvy person in the world. republican opponents of donald trump as we know called him bigot, my knowledge-- misogynist. that's their choice. i agree. if they want someone to run technology for the country -- >> does it concern you that she can't remember her security training or if she had it? because she said she fell and she hit her head. are you worried she's brain dead? >> no. that's a mischaracterization. again, we just saw her for

11 1/2 hours. >> that was her answer. she can't remember. she hit her head. >> donald trump held a debate for 2 1/2 hours when he was only going to talk for 15 minutes. she was on the hot seat for 11 1/2 hours. did she look like somebody that couldn't remember things? >> that would make me think she's lying then. >> when she took office -- >> i don't think it's true she can't remember. i agree with you. i think that means she's lying then. >> all she said is after she had her concussion there were briefings that she didn't remember or didn't receive. you know who else didn't have briefings when he was hospitalized? ronald reagan. when you're hospitalized, you miss briefings. but the fact of the matter is again, we've seen her on the world stage. they've seen her in the hearing. we've seen her operate. if the trump campaign wants to go after her for being somehow add led, that's a debate hillary clinton would gladly have. >> let me ask you about the recent polls which by all accounts very closing. why do you think it's happening? kind of conversation about the

e-mails and all that is weighing on her? her numbers have gone down. do you think it's a steadier message from donald trump? i mean how would you explain the tightening in all of the polls? >> look. the fact of the matter is if you look at real clear polliticpolitics that's what chris wallace always refers to her lead was 4 points. before the convention it was smaller than that. after all is said and done, going up and down and bumps, she got a bigger margin than she did before both conventions. >> it's been shrinking since the end of the convention. she was way ahead and now it's closing up. >> that's true. >> you're not concerned. i understand. thank you, appreciate your time. he closed the gap. can he move ahead? gop pollster lee carter is up next on how donald trump was able to tighten things up in the polls this week and what he needs to do to push the still undecided voters over the fence. and then later the nfl

season starting under a clud of controversy. should police boycott the san francisco 49ers over colin capper nick? he we'll talk about this with kevin jackson. stay with us as "justice" rolls on. have conquered highways, mountains, and racetracks. and now much of that same advanced technology is found in the audi a4. with one notable difference... ♪ the highly advanced audi a4, with available traffic jam assist. ♪ what's it like to be in good hands? like finding new ways to be taken care of. home, car, life insurance obviously, ohhh... but with added touches you can't get everywhere else, like claim free rewards... or safe driving bonus checks. even a claim satisfaction guaranteeeeeeeeeee!

in means protection plus unique extras only from an expert allstate agent. it's good to be in, good hands. energy is a complex challenge. people want power. and power plants account for more than a third of energy-related carbon emissions. the challenge is to capture the emissions before they're released into the atmosphere. exxonmobil is a leader in carbon capture. our team is working to make this technology better, more affordable so it can reduce emissions around the world. that's what we're working on right now. ♪ energy lives here. ♪ if you have moderate to severe plaque psoriasis isn't it time to let the real you shi ne through? introducing otezla (apremilast). otezla is not an injection or a cream. it's a pill that treats plaque psoriasis differently. with otezla,

75% clearer skin is achievable after just 4 months, with reduced redness thickness, and scaliness of plaques. and the otezla prescribing information has no requirement for routine lab monitoring. don't take otezla if you are allergic to any of its ingredients. otezla may increase the risk of depression. tell your doctor if you have a history of depression or suicidal thoughts or if these feelings develop. some people taking otezla reported weight loss. your doctor should monitor your weight and may stop treatment. side effects may include diarrhea nausea, upper respiratory tract infection, and headache. tell your doctor about all the medicines you take and if you're pregnant or planning to be. ask your dermatologist about otezla today. otezla. show more of you.

welcome back to welcome back to "justice." new fox polls shows the race is tightening. clinton is down six points, but in a four-way hillary's lead drops to just 2% if you factor in other factors here. here with all of the details and what the candidates need to do in the final stretch of the race political pollster lee carter. thanks so much for joining us. >> great to be here. >> what do you think about the fact when you put the other candidates in there and it's not just the head to head and they take from hillary clinton, does that surprise you? >> it's very surprising to me, especially since gary johnson is a libertarian, getting 9% of the votes. you would expect him to be pulling from donald trump and it's not happened. and we are looking now at a race between them in a statistical dead heat and so it's clear to me that the strategy that trump's employing over two weeks

is really really working. he's moving ahead. he's keeping the base solid and getting more. >> what do you make of that? it's hard for me to trust that the libertarian candidate is pulling from hillary clinton. other pollsters before the most recent one, most people thought it would be equal from both sides to have the other candidates in there. >> yeah, i would have thought it would have pulled equally. so this poll is surprising to me. although we are seeing when you talk a lot of the bernie sanders supporters they like gary johnson's message. it's a very anti-government mess. it's a very manty government message and i think that's pulling some of the folks going for bernie sanders and expected them going to hillary clinton and it does make sense if you think about it in some ways. but it is surprising. >> the other part of the poll i thought was interesting was are both clinton and terrible candidates? 44% of respondents said yes,

they hate them both. that's unusual, right? >> it is a very unusual number. but you know what? i'm surprised it wasn't higher. because you have conversations out there, everybody's saying this the the worst. i don't like either one of them. but 44%, that's not as bad as i expected although it's certainly a lot -- it is a lot worse than we have seen in the past, absolutely, yeah. >> what do you expect people who respond that way to do? do they hold their nose and pick a candidate? do they stay home? when you see negatives that high, what do people do? >> what we've seen traditionally, people don't go to vote against someone. they vote for someone. i think what we'll see, people are going to stay home. that said, we're in a very, very different election cycle. than i have ever seen before. the level of intensity of feelings is so high. the fear i mean hillary clinton's calling donald trump dangerous. people believe that donald trump is dangerous. that might drive people to vote not for hillary clinton but against that idea that something else is dangerous but likewise there's a lot of people who say, hillary clinton, i can't trust her. she's crooked.

all the information coming out about the e-mails and more in depth is says i can't trust her to be president and act in our best interest. so i think we might see more people go to the polls than we expect. because traditionally, we do see people don't go and vote against someone. i think we'll have a different cycle this year. >> donald trump is sitting at 39% in this poll. the folks on hillary clinton's side say he's got a ceiling and he may have done better and his numbers have gone up in the past week or two as we've seen him deliver a steadier message and stay on prompter and, you know, not have some of the gaffes he's had in the past, but they don't believe he can break higher than that. have you seen evidence that he could go higher than that, or do you believe he's hit a ceiling? >> i don't believe he's hit a ceiling. i do think he can go higher. i think we saw him higher right after the convention. i mean, look. we still have 70 days. donald trump is gaining momentum. we see when he gains momentum he can pick up 10 and 12 points.

i think we could see that happen again because the other thing i'm seeing is level of enthusiasm for hillary clinton is low. people are saying i'm going to vote for her but not enthusiastically. they're changeable. people don't trust either of the candidates that much and that makes these numbers very fluid. people are changing their mind. you can see as many as 70% of people who have polled have changed their mind on who they're going to support over the last six months. obviously there's a lot fewer candidates right now. but that's the situation we're running into. people are really fluid. their emotions are different. people are questions what they might have -- that they might have thought. people who are republicans are saying they might vote for hillary. people who are democrats are voting for donald trump. it's a very, very different and unusual situation. >> it's amazing to me because there's so much daylight in thinking between these two candidates. it's hard for me to imagine somebody going, maybe her, maybe him. to me it's you like one or you're not going to vote at all. what do i know? lee carter, thank you so much. appreciate your time.

>> great to be here. the polls tightened up so you think donald trump had a slightly better week than hillary clinton? not everyone agrees with that. tony seg and theron johnson our all-star political panel, they're up next. they're going to debate it. don't go away. experience breathtaking lexus performance in street-legal form. get great offers at the lexus golden opportunity sales event. get up to $5,000 customer cash on select 2016 models. ends september 5th. see your lexus dealer. ♪ (humming) ♪ so you're up at dawn, ♪ ♪ k, , look alive. ♪ ♪ you've been saving for a big man-cave. ♪ (chuckling) good luck with that, dave. ♪ you made the most of your retirement plan, ♪ ♪ so you better learn to drive that rv, man.♪

♪ so many things you're doing in your life. ♪ ♪ ♪ nationwide is on your side. ♪ everyone thought i was crazy to open a hotel here. everyone said it's so hard to be a musician, but i can't imagine doing anything else. now that the train makes it easier to get here, the neighborhood is really changing. i'm always hopping on the train, running all over portland. i have to go wherever the work is. trains with innovative siemens technology help keep cities moving, so neighborhoods and businesses can prosper. i can book 3 or 4 gigs on a good weekend. i'm booked solid for weeks. it takes ingenuity to make it in the big city. people would ask me in different countries that we traveled, what is your nationality and i would always answer hispanic. so when i got my ancestry dna results it was a shocker. i'm everything. i'm from all nations. i would look at forms now and wonder what do i mark?

because i'm everything. and i marked other. discover the story only your dna can tell. order your kit now at ancestrydna.com. better buckle up. that inactive satellite radio of yours is ready to roll. because the siriusxm free listening event is on right now! just hit the sat button in your car and listen free thru sept 6. that's right, two glorious weeks of commercial-free music plus talk, sports, comedy, news and more.

your ride has never, ever, rocked like this. oh yeah, siriusxm is on for free right now. so tune in and let's ride! ♪ the sun'll come out tomorrow... ♪ for people with heart failure, tomorrow is not a given. but entresto is a medicine that helps make more tomorrows possible. ♪ tomorrow, tomorrow... ♪ ♪ i love ya, tomorrow ♪ in the largest heart failure study ever. entresto helped more people stay alive and out of the hospital than a leading heart failure medicine. women who are pregnant must not take entresto. it can cause harm or death to an unborn baby. don't take entresto with an ace inhibitor or aliskiren. if you've had angioedema while taking an ace or arb medicine, don't take entresto. the most serious side effects are angioedema low blood pressure... ...kidney problems or high potassium in your blood. ♪ tomorrow, tomorrow i love ya, tomorrow.♪

ask your heart doctor about entresto. and help make tomorrow possible. ♪ you're only a day away ♪ live from america's news headquarters i'm kelly wright. good evening. here's what's happening. hermine is lurking hundreds of miles off the eastern coast we the storm still poses a serious threat as it's packing 70 miles per hour winds and continues to churn up massive waves. despite the system taking a different path than forecasters expected several beaches in the northeast remain closed. and new jersey governor chris christie is warning folks to stay alert. he says hermine could still cause major flooding. pope francis declaring mother teresa a saint 19 years

after her death. a rare moment as saints usually don't get canonized until decades or even centuries after they die. more than 100,000 pilgrims packed into st. peter's square for the mass. pope francis praised her efforts to help the poor in india. i'm kelly wright. now back to "justice." we have just over two months to go until election day and another week of campaign chaos with big policy speeches and developments in the clinton e-mail scandal. let's get right to it with my political panel. contributor tony seg and strategist theron johnson. thanks both of you for joining us. tony let me start with you. donald trump went down to mexico snapped up that invitation invitation a very clever move and then he got in a twitter fight with the president of mexico. net-net, how do you think he did with all of that?

>> i think he's been acting very presidential and hillary has been acting as if she's in the witness protection program. the reality is when you're running for president, you do things on the stump. he went down to mexico, accepted the invitation of the mexican president. sure there are differences. those are pretty well documented. and then he came back to the united states to give a speech on immigration reform. most detailed we have heard in decades. hillary clinton has been missing. totally absent. no press conferences. not talking about the new economic numbers both on growth and jobs that are abysmal. and all she does given when the opportunity to speak publicly is criticize donald trump. he's at least putting forward his agenda, today in detroit doing something important in bringing african-american voters, and she's outside. of that same type of process. >> let's bring in theron and get his reaction. she's been fund-raising and raked in a ton of cash. she raked in $142 million in august alone. even though we're not seeing

her, she's holding fund-raisers and getting money for ads. is that a smarter strategy? >> yes. she's been doing and she's been very successful. she's going to need all that money to basically show the contrast between her and donald trump as we get closer to november. the other thing that's very interesting, she at a time with 66 days left to go, she's continuing to make sure folks know about her message. and what she wants to do to move forward. i want to respond real quickly -- >> wait. how is she doing that? we've not seen any press conferences. she's made phone calls in to shows. from places to kind of respond to the fact that she's not doing any press conferences. it seems like whatever -- i don't know she's getting the message out. she's raising money, which is great, but not much on messaging. >> yes. so at a time when tomorrow she's going to be in the swing state of ohio she spent a lot of time in florida. i'll just focus on florida for a second which is a big

battleground state. when she goes to florida, she's down there talking about how she's going to make it more accessible for business owners to do business, particularly ican women. when she was in ohio, pennsylvania recently, she was talking about how she's going have plan to strengthen the middle class. but the other thing she's doing is she is making sure that when it's time more her to be the loudest voice and to be able to talk about the future, i think she'll be ready. but let's also look at the math. she's leading right now in pretty much every battleground state. maybe except north carolina. >> okay. let me ask -- hang on. let me ask tony about that. that's a good point. you know, the national polls have closed quite a bit and we were talking about that in the last segment, especially when you look at a four-way race. it's a statistical dead heat. margin of error is three points and they're only two points apart, but in the battleground states he's got work to do. maybe he should be on the ground in florida and other communities. >> well, look. we've seen the national polls

closing. he's basically erased her lead, cut it in half since about three weeks ago. admittedly hillary clinton had a very strong post-convention bounce. national polls, as you know, are always lead indicators. state polls tend to follow. let's put it on the table. florida, ohio north carolina all within the margin of error. he's cut her lead in half. he's put a state like new hampshire. clearly what he's doing is working, what she's doing is not. that's the lesson in the last two weeks. >> in the meantime she's battling -- hang on. she's battling against this constant e-mail dump we're getting. another huge batch of e-mails coming out putting her in a bad light. tharon, is that taking away her lead there and causing a distraction? >> let me ask this polling question first and then i'll give my response on the e-mails. this whole notion of state polling is naive. >> that's not what i said. i said it's a lagging indicator. i said it lags the national

numbers. >> you crunched the numbers. hold on. i didn't cut you off, tony. you're talking about someone who led the president's campaign in 2012. who led three battleground states. florida, virginia, north carolina. to say those states don't matter is ludicrous. >> i'm -- hang on. i'm going to hold you guys ore after the break -- hang on. we'll have more time to address this when we come back. stay where you are. don't go away. we're just getting started with these guys. more with this panel coming up next. plus, kevin jackson is here to talk about colin kaepernick and his protest against the "national anthem." do police now have the right to protest the san francisco 49ers? that's ahead. mom, i have to tell you something. dad, one second i was driving and then the next... they just didn't stop and then... i'm really sorry. i wrecked the subaru. i wrecked it.

you're ok. that's all that matters. (vo) a lifetime commitment to getting them home safely. love. it's what makes a subaru, a subaru. men. 80% try to eat healthy yet up to 90% fall short in getting key nutrients from food alone. let's do more. add one a day men's gummies. complete with key nutrients plus b vitamins to help convert food into fuel. one a day. get ready... to show your roots. with root touch up from nice'n easy it blends with leading shades, even salon shades. in just 10 minutes. so pick your shade. and show the world your roots... ...with root touch-up. hi, i'm dominique wilkins. when you have type 2 diabetes, like me, there's a moment of truth. and with victoza® a better moment of proof. victoza® lowers my a1c and blood sugar better than the leading branded pill which didn't get me to my goal. victoza® works with your body

to lower blood sugar in three ways-- in the stomach, the liver and the pancreas. and while it isn't for weight loss, victoza® may help you lose some weight. non-insulin victoza® comes in a pen and is taken once a day. (announcer) victoza® is not recommended as the first medication to treat diabetes and is not for people with type 1 diabetes or diabetic ketoacidosis. do not take victoza® if you have a personal or family history of medullary thyroid cancer, multiple endocrine neoplasia syndrome type 2, or if you are allergic to victoza® or any of its ingredients. stop taking victoza® and call your doctor right away if you get a lump or swelling in your neck or if you develop any allergic symptoms including itching, rash, or difficulty breathing. serious side effects may happen, including pancreatitis. so, stop taking victoza® and call your doctor right away if you have severe pain in your stomach area. tell your doctor your medical history. taking victoza® with a sulfonylurea or insulin may cause low blood sugar. the most common side effects are headache nausea, diarrhea, and vomiting.

side effects can lead to dehydration which may cause kidney problems. now's the time for a better moment of proof. ask your doctor about victoza®. you found the perfect car for you on cars.com i'm a robot! yeti rawr ♪ jingle bells ♪ tents up guys. and used cars.com to find a place to service it at a fair price, too. signal, signal hey guys, how's it going? that's not even music. ♪ now when you're ready, you can sell your old car and find your new one all on cars.com you know us for shopping and now we're there for every turn. cars.com

my all-star panel is back. republican strategist fox news contributor tony sayegh and tharon johnson are both with us. i want to look ahead now to what the cannot dates should be doing going forward. what do you think donald trump be doing to prepare and what do you think his tone should be? >> look. i actually happen to think that trump has proven he's extraordinarily effective in these debates. i don't think he alters much of his style. my recommendation would be he focuses on the message we know works. jobs the economy and terrorism. and prosecuting hillary clinton on what we've seen every day and learn day is a complete act of corruption in her dealings with both the server that she withheld a lot of information on and her conduct at the state department as it relates to the clinton foundation with the act of co-ming bling of both.

as long as he focuses on that it's really hillary clinton who's going to come across as mean-spirited, try to provoke donald trump and do something inappropriate and just plays it smart. >> tharon, what do you think it should be? if he comes at her about the e-mails and the server and all of that does she take the bait and respond to it? should she brush it off like she she didn't hear it like she does with the media? >> don't forget, hillary clinton has had more debates than donald trump. >> yeah, over her lifetime for sure and she's pretty good at it. what should she do with the e-mail question if he comes at her with all of that? should she respond? >> yeah. so. let me finish guys. the point is that in the debate she's got to drill down on the specific policy of what she cares most about. she's got to challenge donald trump to not just kind of throw out plans out there and things he wants to do without any substance. let's get to the e-mails because that's what you guys have been waiting on. listen, she's come out and said it with us wrong. she's apologized.

she said, listen, if i could do it all over again, i would do it differently. >> should she say that during the debate? >> she's lied every step of the way. >> wait a minute. go on. should she apologize for it or it makes her look defensive but i don't know if you address it. >> it's not going make her look defensive. she's already said i know you guys know that. i think what she's got to do is say, listen, there were some mistakes made, some e-mails that were exchanged, but at the end of the day, i'm the best person to lead this country. let's not forget this, donald trump is going go down in history as being not only the most privileged but the most divisive. today he went into an african-american church and said i want to bring people -- don't cut me off, tony. i didn't cut you off. >> tony didn't say anything. i was trying to get another question in here. i think it's interesting you think that he's the most privileged person. one of the things we have certainly learned about the clintons is they live in a bubble. >> they live in a bubble.

>> they -- $44 million over the past whatever it was five or six years in speeches. they fly privately. they've gotten $16 million from the government. we're talking about levels of privilege on both sides that 99.99% of the population can't even relate to. i don't know if that's a great point for -- >> melissa. >> let me let tony back in. let me let tony back in. tony? if she's training as we heard with the ghost writer of his book and other people to try to get under his skin and throw him off, do you think that he should go out of his way to be impervious to this and hold onto very steady grown and not lose his temper, or is that part of his charm? >> it's a great question, melissa, because there is so much about donald trump being unorthodox. that has led to his success as a presidential candidate. in a year where we don't want a career politician like hillary clinton who's done debates for 30 some odd years, who has played the political game for so long, there is authenticity that works to his benefit.

my point is he should focus on those parts, certainly attacking her on her conduct with the clinton foundation and the state department versus just chasing every single shot she takes. she knows that she, number one, she wants to run for valedictorian. she wants to prove she's smarter than he is. fine. on certain policy, she's been there for 30 years. let's acknowledge she's a very bright person but also a corrupt person. she really wants to try to get him unqualified in how he reacts to her. >> we're out of time. i want to give tharon the final world. what is your advice? >> we will never know how much donald trump is worth, you know why? he won't release his tax returns and all those stats you uttered off, melissa, the clintons at least with their finances have been very transparent. until we get donald trump's tax returns, we'll never know. >> we've got go. thanks to both of you. we'll be right back.

hmmmmmm..... hmmmmm... [ "dreams" by beck ] hmmmmm... the turbocharged dream machine. the volkswagen golf gti. named one of car and driver's 10best, 10 years in a row. this car is traveling over 200 miles per hour. to win, every millisecond matters.

both on the track and thousands of miles away. with the help of at&t, red bull racing can share critical information about every inch of the car from virtually anywhere. brakes are getting warm. confirmed, daniel you need to cool your brakes. understood, brake bias back 2 clicks. giving them the agility to have speed & precision. because no one knows & like at&t.

continued outrage other san francisco 49ers quarterback colin kaepernick's national anthem controversy. joining me from st. louis, radio host and author of "big black lie" kevin jackson. he is also a fox news contributor.

thanks so much for joining us. it really feels like colin kaepernick has sort of backed himself into a corner at this point. he took a knee at the last game. there's kind of no graceful way for him to end this. what advice would you give him? >> i would tell him to end it by just apologizing. that would be the quickest thing to do. problem is, he's found out the way a lot of americans have, there's a lot of money and prestige that comes with what i call race pimping which is actually the title of my latest book. unfortunately for kaepernick, you're right, he's backed himself into a corner because as opposed to focusing on athleticism and the meritocracy that is the nfl and all professional sports, he decided that in protest of his own inabilities on the football field he will now pivot to something else. >> you say he gets money and prestige from this, but from my point of view, it seems like it's maybe costing him money. i don't know what money he's going to get as a result of doing it. he's made himself a more controversy figure.

he's also pledged to give $1 million to what he calls racial equality causes in the future but we don't know what any of those are. >> the problem is you don't understand how race pimping works. it's a futures business. right now, he's on the outside in the nfl. he's been to the pinnacle. he didn't win the super bowl. he was cut in the training camp. i don't know where he's at right now. so his contract in 2014 was for $126 million. he sat out most of the following year. this year, he's probably not going to start. what does he do? he decides to become a child and decide hey, when i do get out, if i play the beyonce card and do my "x" routine, i'll hit the speaking circuit and be the darling of the nfl. i don't know how it will play out for him when his career is over. don't think for one second there's not a ton of money in race pimping.

there is. there's trillions of dollars in it. >> now some of the police in san francisco are talking about boycotting the stadium, boycotting the games. especially reaction to the socks he was wearing. you know they made the rounds on social media showing police as pigs. >> as wigs. >> yeah. what do you make of that? the police have the right to boycott the stadium now? >> i hope all of san francisco boycotts it. we have a sport where the overwhelming majority of the fans are white, and they are watching a disproportionate number of people who are like colin kaepernick, young, black men making millions and millions of dollars. so you have disproportionality on both sides, white people showing up in droves to watch a lot of black multimillionaires and this is what they get? they have to watch people put a black lives matter thing on their arms and protest the american flag? >> maybe the way you just described it, it is the perfect forum for him to raise this issue. if it is a mostly white audience

out there in the stadium watching him and out there in the viewing world, perhaps he's bringing up the issue of race inequality to people who otherwise wouldn't be thinking about it. what about that? >> i disagree. i think that whites in america are far too long being made to apologize for things they have nothing to do with, with respect to the audience watching him, here again, we have whites that are making these young black men into multimillionaire. you have black men that are achieving things all over this country in all walks of life and, quite frankly, the black lives matter movement is a lie. what white audiences are being treated to is yet again more of the idea that white people are oppressing. they are oppressing him so much, he's a multimillionaire. he was adopted by a white family. he's come nowhere near any of the things we are talking about with respect to these police officers. neither have any of his friends. >> maybe that's a reason for him to stand up because he has had such a privileged life. the way you describe it when talking about black athletes out there entertaining a white audience, that in and of itself

sounds a little degrading. >> then degrade me because i would love to have that opportunity. look. at the end of the day, everybody in that audience is probably one to two degrees of separation from a law enforcement officer. >> we got to go. i'm so sorry. great point. we are out of time. we'll do more next time. thank you so much. thanks to all of you out there for watching. judge jeanine will be back next week. have a fantastic holiday weekend. for those who can't imagine life without two wheels, allstate offers a genuine parts guarantee, that promises to fix your bike with original parts. talk to an allstate agent about all the things they do to keep riders riding.

♪ [engine revs] ♪ [cheering] ♪ the highly advanced audi a4. ♪ (announcer vo) who says your desk phone always has to be at your desk? now, with one talk from verizon... hi, pete. i'm glad you called. (announcer vo) all your phones can work together on one number. you can move calls between phones so conversations can go where you go. take your time. i'm not going anywhere. (announcer vo) and when you're not available, one talk helps find the right person who is. hi, john.

(announcer vo) so wherever work takes you you can put your customers first. introducing one talk-- another way verizon connects your business better. learn how at onetalk.com. ♪ mapping the oceans. where we explore. protecting biodiversity. everywhere we work. defeating malaria. improving energy efficiency. developing more clean burning natural gas. my job? my job at exxonmobil? turning algae into biofuels. reducing energy poverty in the developing world. making cars go further with less. fueling the global economy. and you thought we just made the gas. ♪ energy lives here.

♪ if you have moderate to severe plaque psoriasis isn't it time to let the real you shi ne through? introducing otezla (apremilast). otezla is not an injection or a cream. it's a pill that treats plaque psoriasis differently. with otezla, 75% clearer skin is achievable after just 4 months, with reduced redness thickness, and scaliness of plaques. and the otezla prescribing information has no requirement for routine lab monitoring. don't take otezla if you are allergic to any of its ingredients. otezla may increase the risk of depression. tell your doctor if you have a history of depression or suicidal thoughts or if these feelings develop. some people taking otezla reported weight loss. your doctor should monitor your weight and may stop treatment. side effects may include diarrhea nausea, upper respiratory tract infection,

and headache. tell your doctor about all the medicines you take and if you're pregnant or planning to be. ask your dermatologist about otezla today. otezla. show more of you. i'm chris wallace, i'm chris wallace. d donald trump reaches out to black voters as polls suggest that hillary clinton's lead is narrowing. >> i fully understand that the african-american community has suffered from discrimination a and that there are many wrongs that must still be made right. >> today a debate between dr. ben carson, a trump advisor, and congressman gregory meeks, a top clinton supporter on who has better ideas to help minorities. then the other woman on the presidential ballot. dr. jill stein, the green