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website foxnewssunday.com. that's it for today. have a great week. we'll see you next "fox news >> on the buzz beater, hillary clinton make as big blond are by denouncing trump's loyal backers. >> you can put half of trump supporters into what i call the basket of deplorables. all the media are slow to react. physical she apologizes. how did news organizations botch this? >> with clinton getting overheated and leaving a 9/11 ceremony today does it open the door to scrutiny of her health? >> matt lauer taking heat for the grilling of donald trump and hillary clinton on national security issues and pundits panning both candidates. >> it was a rough night for hillary clinton, robin, 13 minutes of questioning was on her e-mail.
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>> she was having to defend the entire foreign establishment of both parties so it was never going to be easy. my point. trump has it easier and he blew it. >> to pair praise ronald reagan, there she goes again, another new e-mail excuse. >> donald trump said i have a secret plan, president, and he has heard stuff and the body language, it is wild. >> donald trump is held to a lower standard. he just is. nobody expects him to know the specifics of policy so they do not push him. >> is the criticism partisan? why are so many commentators on the rip currenting matt lauer for the questioning? awesome better remembrance of the attacks on new york and washington 15 years ago. the media climate has changed since the dark aftermath of 9/11 a bone head attempt to income out chris wallace as a moderator for the presidential debates.
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this is "media buzz" and i am howard kurtz. >> we will get to how hillary clinton dealt with her health incident but first the media were slow to jump on these offensive comments that hillary clinton made at a friday night fundraiser. >> you could put what of trump supporters into what i call the basket of deplorables. right? the rapist, sexist, home folk ice, you name it. >> analyzing how the press is covering charges and counter charges, we have mollie hemingway, with "federalist," and nina easton formerly with a big name.
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>> now, this was no suggestion that it could have been over the line and faller story is inside the paper today so what do you say? >> it is interesting you name "new york times" because they ran quickly with the mitt romney 47% line, like everyone else but in hour they put it up. you saw the media underplay this and rather than going immediately into the feeding frenzy with mitt romney. >> hick put out a state say i was grossly generallistic and i regret having to say half of trump supporters it was wrong. the huffington post chided her for apologizing, backbone, they are deplorable. >> that sort of plays through in the coverage that she should not have said it but the press gets that some of them are deplorable. i have to disagree with the idea that the press underplayed this. look at the press including social media there was enough
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noise that she had to apology. the press rightly compared it to the 47% comment that mitt romney made to remind everyone he said 47% of obama supporter are really people who are dependent on the goodies he gives out through government these are very, very important moments for the media to core because it is a time when a candidate is being at a fundraiser, so you do not think they get full coverage, and it is a look at how that candidate sees the supporters. >> the romney comments were leaked or secretly taped, there were cameras but "politico" jump on it, trump campaigned to demand apology and were "washington post" said republicans jump on deplorable remarks of hillary clinton so it is a political food fight not that journalists think there is anything wrong with it. >> anyone that's point was there was a lot of buzz, it went out and it created for the campaign
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to have to immediately apologized something they have done. >> but that suggest to me the power of twit and facebook and ordinary people posting sometimes supplants the big news organizations which were slow and in some cases made it as he said-she said. >> we have seen that through the comment. we increase a new medium, and we have seen it with donald trump where twit certificate break the news and how it is responded to. we are in a different atmosphere of how news is not only covered but what it is considered news. >> and those were journalists tweeting so it was in the mix. there was noises build that made her apologize. >> it is not a good idea to attack voters of another candidate even though some of them could be fringe extremists but you have your own fringe knowledge extremist and "politico" describes the worded
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inel significant froze and inartful honesty. >> now what happened at the 9/11 ceremony today, this is the video, cable news now is playing it in a loop, hillary clinton leaving early and going to her car and we can see that she stumbles get into the car. let me pick up with uma, for 1 1/2 hours there was no word on whaled what happened until the campaign said she was overheated in the low 80s in new york and she ditched her press pool which is just the kind of eventuality they had to trend in a penned in area, so did being secret make it worse. >> there have been a couple of health events where it is building to this narrative she could have a health problem. i don't think the waiting or the lack of transparency helps. that said, journalists covering this have a duty to separate legitimate coverage of her health from a lot of the
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conspiracies that are going on. like we saw on the intent last week she was wearing a hearing aid because the light was hitting her ear strange limit. >> completely bogus. >> you have to be careful. >> my next question, and the first report on cable news according to the sources was leventhal and this is before there was video and we did not know what happened the journalists have been treading lightly on her health issues, feeling that the consensus is some conservatives make a federal case out of every coughing fit for partisan reasons but that changed today. >> certainly. there lab an overcorrection on how the media has covered her health. last week the "washington post" had a headline "can we mess stop talking about hillary clinton's health," how the media or conservatives are overplaying health problems, but play it down the middle. there are conspiracy theories but the only real conspiracy
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near you have there no is no problem with her health and that is what you want to avoid. >> the episode, today, now it is a legitimate issue based on changing circumstances and the report certificate taking flak. we should still be weary of diagnosing from doctors who have never examined hillary clinton. >> i am not a doctor, and i don't think of us play a doctor so it is with great caution. i was watching cnn and i can tell you i am not here to give a diagnosis or tell her what the illness is, we are speculating which is not necessarily helpful . not everyone so-called "doctor," on division is that cautious. >> and gupta has assured us there was knowing wrong with her health. play it down the middle. journalists can not diagnosis
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people but they should not treat everyone as a conspiracy or underplay things. report it as it plays. >> she is 60-year-old who does a lot of public speaking but this was in a different category. >> the american psychiatric society said stop call donald trump crazy and quick trying to analyze this. >> and just as critical of those who never met the guy. >> now the nbc command neither chief forum because it was amazing and it made news with both, what was amaze how much heat matt lauer took, the nbc anchor. >> you are communicating on highly sensitive topics, why want it more than a mistake? why want us disqualifying? >> as i have said repeatedly it was a mistake to have a personal account. >> but when you say inflammatory things in a presidential campaign it is different than
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saying them when you are commander in chief. if you say things when you are commander in chief you can spark a conflict and destabilize a region and put american lives at risk. and we afford to take that risk with new. >> in my view a series of tough questions to both. fierce media assault against matt lauer mostly from the level described as being mean to hillary clinton and failing to reduce donald trump to rubble. >> he only had half an hour but he pushed back on trump about the praise of vladimir putin specifically mentioning how vladimir putin invaded ukraine and annexed crimea and he let seven things that hillary clinton said without too much push back but what going on people were upset that hillary clinton underperformed relative to what they wanted and donald trump overperformed some highway so they took it out on matt lauer. >> blame the moderator.
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"new york times", a news story, a news story headline "matt lauer surrenders to trump," not what we saw there, and an editorial said he failed to call out falsehoods falsehoods and as like a soldier on a mission without a mission ending with retreat that is a lot of firepower. >> something that we left out, he came in with a lot of detailed specifics attack or gaining after hillary clinton for a third of the interview and he did not have the ammunition, the specific am fission to go after donald trump on the claim he opposed the iraq war before the soldiers marched in. that is very significant. people were concerned that he did not follow-up. i would also say that this is such a warning shot for the moderators, coming up in the debates, no one is going to be happy. >> that is the big mistake that he made because trump has said many times i open'sed iraq war and there is no public record and mat ought l lawyer should have anticipated it but the
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controversy surrounding donald trump having to do with the donald trump foundation and trump university did not fit national scrutiny the way the e-mail did but putting trump aside, anything wrong with the way that matt lauer questions hillary clinton? >> did the forum -- it was too short to have 30 minutes with so many issues and the weapons that is a really short time. >> but you have 24 minutes with each. that is a short time. >> for a third of that to be about the e-mails a lot of people felt it was disservice not only to the people in the audience but the greater american public that wanted --. >> why should she not be aggressively questioned? >> she should be and has been and repeatedly questions through multiple interviews including over 300 interviews in the last area. she does interviews and she has been asked and answered repeatedly about mail questions so you can ask the question, absolutely appropriate to have the question asked, once or
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twice with a follow-up but a third of the time was over-the-top. >> i disagree but you have the last word. remember to write to us at "media buzz" on a question about the media. donald trump drawing more media flak on comments about vladimir putin and why a huge t flub may have a silver lining for a third help party candidate gary johnson.
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leader far more than our president has been a leader. >> he also did an interview with larry king whose show airs on the kremlin backed channel, and they said it went to the three king podcast so stories are saying trump criticizing the american president and praising the russian president on russian channel as if he knew going in that is where it was going. >> well, this is part of the russian propaganda network no get out of that. the whole question of put vladimir putin is legitimate coverage for the press and media. he said that he is a stronger leader. vladimir putin is strong because he has invade other countries, has crashes his own economy and while killing political opponents and journalists, killing them, and he is sing his praises.
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this is, again, a legitimate criticism on the part of press. >> what is not legitimate is how the media cannot keep their own store straight on russia. mitt romney called russia our major political threat they made fun of him and "new york times" --. >> obama said that they want their foreign policy back and the media supported it. there was an editorial saying the cold war is over but news story said everyone is concerned even republicans are concerned and now someone is coming from a totally different action el and the media are say that is the wrong posture and they are flipping back-and-forth every four years depending it seems on which republican is saying what. >> the usual is republicans are accusing democrats of being soft on russia so this is a feed day for the press to have. one taking the approach trump. >> and a double standard. can you imagine in president obama had gone on russian television and said, vladimir putin is better than george w. they would call for him to drop
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out of the race and he was unqualified. it is right to go and question him about what not only his latest, in his admiration in a monday who even paul ryan has said deplorable someone we are not putting our praise in, has call out and questioned into the competency --. >> let me stop you i am told we have a statement from hick's doctor coming in to fox news and when they feed it to me i will share it with the audience here on prompter. this is dr. bordack, secretary clinton has been experiencing a cough related to allergies, on friday during follow-up evaluation of her prolonged cause she was diagnosed with pneumonia and put on antibiotics and advised to rest. this morning she became overheated and dehydrated and i have examined her and she now is rehydrated and recovering
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nicely. just briefly, now we know more about what happened and it is less mysterious about why she had to leave the event. >> pneumonia is stuff and to go in that event and standing in the cheat she was not following doctor's orders, the big clan is to be as transparent as possible, both candidates. they have not been forthright about health or middle histories and this is obviously something that they should be. >> i would like to see both medical reports. >> briefly. >> it is the right this that mrs. clinton did to dispute this so the crazy conspiracy theorists, it will not stop them, but i hope they are reporting them done in a fair and balanced matter. >> hillary clinton suffering from pneumonia according do her doctor and that is not a great thing for have happen in the final stretch run of a campaign and we will see how it affects her ability to campaign. >> thank you all, ahead, the
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network. we had a conversation last week on the program. >> we will say donald trump and hillary clinton, what do you do in they make assertions that you know are untrue. >> it is not my job. i do not believe it is my job to an truth squad. it is up to the other person to catch them on that. i am going to try to maintain some reasonable semblence of equal time. in one is filibustering i will try to break in and give the other person a chance to talk. i want it to be about them. >> and huffington post said chris wallace will not call candidates on their lie. chris does not say he would not present the candidates with the fact and ask follow-up but he did not want to be drawn into debating the candidates as when cnn was criticized for backing up president obama when he describeds assault on benghazi as terrorism. >> get for the record because it
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took the president 14 days before he call the attack in benghazi an act of terror. >> he did, in fact, first, so i will call it an act of terrorism >> this is about the assumption that donald trump will tell a last lies and a fox anchor will not call him on it. how about we forget this partisan sniping and judge all the moderators after the debate debates? as you may know fox news has settled the sexual harassment lawsuit against roger ailes that led to his departure as chairman that was followed by gretchen carlson when she was not renewed 21st century did not talk about the terms but no one is disputing paying $20 million. she was praised to the highest standards of journalism including a strong message we sincerely regret and apologize for the tact that gretchen was not treated with the respect and dignity she and all of our colleagues deserve.
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she thanked the women who came forward and said all women deserve a respectful workplace. now, companies in litigation do not apologize and do not pay millions of dollars until they bling there was wrongful conduct so it end as difficult chapter at the network. hillary clinton is finally talking to her press corps as is donald trump and why the donald trump candidacy is prompting conservative
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to her home from her daughter's apartment in downtown manhattan after having to leave the ceremony so suddenly. this is the statement released after examining hillary clinton and i quote, "secretary clinton has been experiencing a cough related to allergies. on friday during follow-up evaluation of her prolonged cough, she was diagnosed with pneumonia. she was put on antibiotics and advised to rest. she became overheated and hydrated. i examined her and she is now rehydrate asked recovering." as she left the lend ceremony she had to cut it short the video that showed her walking to the video what was troubling is it showed her leg trembling and she took a step forward and she stumbled as she headed to the van and then what was somewhat unusual is that the press pool was not allowed to follow her and for 90 minutes the press did
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not know where she was and there were no statements until her campaign issued a statement saying that she was fine, feeling better resting at chelsea's apartment. that is when they released this video. she came walking out of chelsea's apartment, smiling, waving, and looking back to normal and very different from the earlier video we saw 90 minutes before. so, she is back home resting and the doctor said that she diagnosed her with pneumonia on friday and that, new, she is taking antibiotics. >> thank you for the update. >> now, here in washington, dc, is fred barnes executive editor of "weekly standard," and catherine rampell in new york columnist for the "washington post" is here. announce we know the diagnosis is pneumonia. how much does it elevate, the fate of hillary clinton's health and how much of an issue is it
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for the press? >> it will an big issue for the press particularly those who were writing that this was an outrage that donald trump raised any questions of her stamina and health. perfectly legitimate questions because her conduct and not just the coughing, but, showing up late for an interview and odd expressions, there were a lot of things. shear what we need: we need to hear from the doctor. we need to hear from hillary clinton. i know you have noticed it over the years, sited one change that politicians whether they are republicanors democrats are never honest about and that is their health. woodrow wilson had a district and his wife ran the government and they never told us that and john f. kennedy has all these problems. >> and catherine rampell on the question of how much the issue is fair game given we are in the home stretch of a general election and whether also it will listened itself to those who want to exaggerate the
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health failings? >> i don't understand why a cough has been such a big deal. people get sick, i can imagine that the campaign trail has been a very exhausting experience. the fact that she has pneumonia which her doctor said now, actually, makes it more impressive she has been able to have as much stamina to use the word of art, and i have had pneumonia and i am sure i would not have been able to withstand that. i don't understand why having ascofer pneumonia is the critical concern for would should lead our country. i care more about temperament than lungs. >> it is a you are stare fault to say it does not help in expect election year to deal with pneumonia even in no one -- let me turn to other things involving hillary clinton this week. fred, she finally held a press conference after nine months. and spoke to the press corps a couple of days in a would and
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questions from andrea mitchell asking about e-mail and a reporter saying the rnc criticized her for not smiling enough. what do you think? >> i am glad she showed up particularly with the traveling press which is the press corps or one that is following every story. they up to speed on what is going on whether it is e-mails or anything else. you need to talk to them more than five or ten minutes. in she keeps it up she will be fine. she did it, because she was getting criticized for it and it became a problem for her not showing up. >> in question the media make it a major issue and donald trump who had more than a year-long battle with the press ending the media black intermediate restoring credentials of organizations like the "washington post" and "politico" and huffington post and others so both candidates are trying to be more accommodating. your thoughts? >> both of them have a long way to go to be fully transparent.
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donald trump still does not allow the press pool following him to be on his plane. both i add, should have more contact, should disclose more on taxes, on health, on everything else. there is a long way for both them to go. >> look, donald trump is a hard guy to interview. he is tough. he is a bully. we do not like to go back and repeat the same question over and over and that is what they need to do with donald trump to she he is not answering something. >> you set me up. >> donald trump has been available more than any other presidential candidate than i have ever seen. you may not like his answers --. >> in the history of man kind but you set me up for this, an issue that has donald trump and the question of not renouncing the birth statement of donald trump and a top surrogate was on with chris matthews with this
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change. do you agree? >> i confirm. and donald trump confirms. >> when did he do that? >> he did that a few years ago. two years ago. three years ago. >> when did he say the birther was nonsense? >> he believes now high was born in the united states but --. >> when did he say it? >> i have half a minute is the press entitled to say we done want to hear it from giuliani we want to hear it from donald trump to close the chapter. adonald trump has been asked about this several times and each time he has said i'm not going answer that i don't talk about it. we need donald trump himself, to definitive declare he, the suspicion of the president's legitimacy and his birth has been lifted and he should recant his campaign that heed led trying to discontract the president himself and trump needs to come out and agency it.
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>> your comment? >> with we need to hear from donald trump as we need hear other than a written statement from hillary clinton about her health, her doctor and from her. >> thank you, fred barnes and catherine rampell. i am sure hillary clinton will talk to talk about the new diagnosis just disclosed new moan ya look at the fall intermediate from conservative commentators sniping over the trump campaign but, 15 years later, has the media culture moved beyond the dark legacy of 9/11?
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>> hillary clinton has been diagnosed with pneumonia according to a statement from her long time physician. this came up because she left a 9/11 ceremony event early. the press did not know what was going on for an hour and a half. she said she was overheated and video showed her steam bulling. the doctor said she was put on antibiotics and advised to rest and modify the schedule. that old separated the health issue to the front and center of the campaign and i we will hear from the democratic nominee in the coming days. about her health. >> we remember 9/11, 2001 and the horrifying attacks on the pentagon and the world trade center, and the dark day 15
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years ago transformed the media and the political culture. we have julian turner who -- gillian turner who worked with the bush administration. how did this affect your second day at columbia university? >> personally it chained everything. being in new york and a lifelong new yorker i was 19, it felt like this was personal, something that was directed at us, intended for us and we were targets, us being knockers. we were not the only people who were targeted we had ther events in washington, dc, and person but it felt directed and specific. >> media culture was patriotic, rally around the president and don't question the military too aggressively which we saw in the runup to iraq the how does that change? thank you is a backlash generally speaking over the last
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15 years. a criticism i hear against the media all time now is somehow we are fearmongerring overexaggerated the terrorist threat covering it too much when there is an attack unfold asking we tend to cover it for too long but i push back against that. why thing it is possible to overstate the threat. 9/11 is a good to remind people of that. politicians now like to say that terrorism is not annexes a threat but it is for those who dies -- died. >> i remember the atmosphere of fear and the color coded alerts and when there was a big chatter of an attack over christmas or the stadium, most of which were just chatter, it would get days of cable coverage and i am glad we have moved away from that but when there is an attack now, it
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seems to come and go more quickly as in we are uses -- used to i. >> i think of the cs lewis quote kay by daying in changes but if we look back everything is different. the point there being, of course, the way that media covered terrorism has changed, especially in the 21st century because the nature of the terrorist threat has changed. these organizations look very different today than they did 15 years ago. they have diversified. they have multiplied. they have spread across the globe. we are in longer staring down the mouth of al-qaeda. >> is it a factor that president obama unlike president bush de-emphasized war and does not react as emotionally as some might hope when this is a terrorist attack and the way that hillary clinton and donald trump talk about terrorism is
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campaign fodder. that is an accurate way of describing president obama for very specific reasons he does that. i don't align with them. but his worldview tells him that we cannot constantly exaggerate the terrorist threat because it perpetuates the idea that there is a religious war going on because he feels there is not so he feels down playing the threat he is protecting the american people. >> a lost debate about that and the way the media calibrate and sometimes we go too far one way or the other. gillian turner, thank you for joining us. >> and jonah goldberg and the backlash he faces on the right.
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>> hillary clinton is suffering from pneumonia a diagnosis from her doctor and she is recovering nicely at her home in new york. hillary clinton left a 9/11 ceremony early today and we did not know what was going on and the press was not informed and this is related to the coughing guilties she has suffered recently and overheated and the temperature was in the low 80s in manhattan and now we have the pneumonia diagnosis. joining us is jonah goldberg national review senior editor and fox news contributor. how much will this diagnosis and what happened on this sunday morning going to rise to the to which the media agenda? >> it has to. partly because donald trump will make it, politically fair game. >> nothing said so far. >> and, second, say that the new ammonian diagnosis is all there is to it and the other rumors are not true why did she not put
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it out proactively. >> we did not have the diagnosis. >> we were told she had a cough and she had not been diagnosed but they have a tendency behaving when there is a problem they turn on the smoke machine so people think there is fire and they are so secretive and protective of information that it makes the stories bigger than they need to be. all the media black out did not help. all the conservative media has been divided over donald trump candidacy for a year and sean hannity strongly becomes him let the fellow conservative pundits have it. >> let me say to all of and you that includes the commentator class, the jonah goldberg class, that includes radio talk show hosts, here is what i say to all of you never trumper, and i hope glenn beck is listening, you own hillary clinton's supreme court agreements. you own it. you are doing everything you can do to cast doubt in people's
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minds. >> you and hannity are having a twitter war. the larger point, the national review and others who are still in never trump on the right, could be responsible for the election of hillary clinton. >> in we could not. there is a lot of pad journalism where they say anyone who isn't voting, who is part of the normal republican bloc not voting for donald trump is a never trumper and they treat i as in it is electoral demographic these are people not persuaded. the women in the philadelphia suburbs who are soft republicans not voting for donald trump are monte mcnaughton voting for him because of the editorial at national review. >> it is a choice. do you not support hillary clinton but to the extent that you use your lot forms to criticize donald trump and in donald trump does not win hillary clinton is the next president. >> not a binary choice, that is what people who support trump say but the other people on the ballot not voting is an objection, my vote is
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meaningless. i live in washington, dc. i have never lives anywhere where my vote was not canceled out. >> but people think it is about my vote. at the same time, look, my idea of journeyism, you media guys get too worked up how complicated this needs to be. my understanding --. >> educate me. >> my idea of thics is never say anything i don't believe is true. there are a lot of trump supporters would say things they do not believe is true. >> without there are a class of pro trump who will tell you how terrible he is but they backing him. why? >> they have a funny definition of their job discretion. they think their job is to support the republican nominee. that is what hannity's position is, he is like pitch man selling a product that the audience has already bought into. >> he believes that donald trump will be a better president that hillary clinton and he gave air time to ted cruz and a lot of other republicans during the
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primaries. so when you say selling a product his principles and yours are not abehind. >> his principle is to do energy he can for the republican nominee. i don't work for the rnc. so many people are not angry with me not living down to their expectations. i am a never hillary clinton person i am a never donald trump person. has your stance against donald trump and you have been forthright has it hurt you professionally including among your leaders who want donald trump to be president? >> sure. it is not great business decision but i am telling truth as i see it and i think this is essentially a choice between two crap sandwiches on different kinds of bread. >> thanks, joe gentleman for joining -- jonah goldberg for joining us. hillary clinton has been diagnosed with pneumonia after leaving 9/11 ceremony early and her dot said she is on
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>> a cringe worthy moment, a hide under the table men when this question was put to the libertarian candidate for president, gary johnson. what would you do you were elected about aleppo? >> about? >> aleppo. >> and what is aleppo? >> are kidding. >> no. >> in syria. the epicenter of the refugee crisis --. >> got it. get it. >> for a man applying to be commander in chief not to know the war torn syrian city but i say this the former new mexico
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governor owned up and does not try to pretend he knew the owner and did a bunch of tv interviews. >> i will try and make lemonade out of this is what i will try and do which is to talk about the policy in syria right now and aleppo is at the epicenter of that policy. >> you did not seem to know that. >> i was thinking acronym when he said aleppo. guilty. no excuse whatever. >> the irony is this blunder won johnson far more media attention than he has gotten for his campaign and now everyone is talking about gary johnson that is it for "media buzz" and we hope you like our facebook page. we post a lot of original content and respond to your questions. ask us question and continue conversation. and we were lucky to be live to be able to share the breaking
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