>> whisper in my ear. >> james buchanan? >> sure. if that's the hipped, i'll take it. >> . this is a fox news alert. an update surrounding the bomb blast in the chelsea neighborhood of new york city friday night. you are looking at video of a suspicious device found a short time ago in a trash can near a train station in elizabeth, new jersey. as a result, amtrak and new jersey train service has been suspended along the northeast line. >> at 9:30 this evening, two

gentlemen were walking and noticed a package in a waist basket. they took it out because they thought it was of value to them. walked under the arch and around the corner near an suv and saw wires and dropped the package and went to police head quarters to notify the police of what they just found. the police responded and checked it out and looked at it. thought it could be a bomb. called the union county bomb squad who sent a drone to examine further. the drone indicated that it could be suspicious and it could be a live bomb. the fbi is on site and the police will arrive and check it for evidence and compare it at which time a decision will be made on how to remove it. both the new jersey train and amtrak are shut down going to the elizabeth station. a schultz will be here to take

passengers to north and south. hopefully this will be resolved by the morning commute. >> you can tell us about the response. >> the police responded and the sheriffs office responded. elizabeth fire department responded and we have done a secondary search through other waste paper baskets that proved negative and we are on site until this is resolved. >> all hands are on deck and the fbi and new york police department conducted a traffic stop near the bridge that links the new york city borrows of staten island to brooklyn. they told us no arrests were made and no one has been charged with any crime and the investigation is continuing. we learned that five people in the vehicle were from elizabeth, new jersey. all of this comes amid heightened security triggered by

two bomb blasts days before they were scheduled to arrive in manhattan for the un general assembly. president obama will be among the vips and dignitaries. the city will be teaming with extra police officers and an additional 1,000 state troopers and members of the national guard will be watching and bringing you additional information as it becomes available. andrew kru onl cuomo said there link or evidence to say it was international terrorism. we will bring you more details as we find available to us. we take you back now to a special report already in progress. >> the technology was not where it was at. in that crime scene, they found this dinky thing with the serial number on it and traced it back

to a place in germany and solved that case. >> since no arrests have been made, new york's leaders are taking no chances. >> we will be deploying close to an additional 1,000 new york state police and national guard people to police the bus terminals and airports and subway stations. i want new yorkers to be confident when they go to work on monday. >> we have spoken to the woman who found the second ied and called it in. she said that she saw the pressure cooker and knew it could be used to use the bomb and her call they got a bomb squat there within a few minutes and likely saved a lot of people from serious injury or worse. >> we will follow this investigation closely. a lot of video cameras. had they directly discovered a connection between the bombings there in new york city and new jersey earlier yesterday.

>> not yet. there are similarities in terms of proximity and timing about 11 hours apart. it was pressure cooker bombs and at this hour, we do not know if there is a common person at the locations or anything that links the town of new jersey to the spots in chelsea. >> we are following it. 1200 miles to the west, the motivations behind a stabbing seem to be immediately clear. isis-related media claim the attacker was one of their own. they are viewing the attack as an act of terrorism. we have been following this investigation. >> brett, it had to be five chaotic and terrifying minutes and now the fbi said this is a

possible act of terrorism. the task forces conducting the investigation along with the st. cloud police department. they put out this statement. the executor of the a tactittac carried out the countries blocking to the coalition. it happened after 8:00 at the cross roads mall. a man wearing a uniform pulled out a knife and started stabbing people. one person who was attacked was asked if he was a muslim. another heard the reference to allah. they conducted two property searches at newspaper apartments. they lived in st. cloud and had only a few contacts for minor things. they have not released his name. >> we are currently investigating this as a potential act of terrorism.

i say potential. there is a lot we don't know. we don't at this point in time know whether the subject was in contact with and had connections with and was inspired by a foreign terrorist organization. >> we know nine people were stabbed, seven men and 10 women. three could haves are still in the report with nonlife-threatening jurisdiction. jason faulkner was shopping when he saw the smoegz. he shot and killed the subject in here oiic fashion. >> we are a united community and there is in this individual an evil act. unjustifiable in any means. it will not shake the resolve of the this community. >> it is an hour drive and has been the focus dating back

years. the fbi said isis and al qaeda have done heavy recruiting. the men have been convicted of changes and we will have to wait and see if this attack is in any way related. >> thank you. >> this weekend's incidents are the latest on any y many experts in and out of the government are on high alert. we have historical perspective. good evening. >> good evening. if what happened in minnesota does turn out to be inspired or directed by isis, it would be the fifth attack in just under two years. when you add in similar attacks in europe, that more than doubles. here at home, they said it has close to 1,000 open cases in all 50 states focused on people who were consuming the poison and acting.

president obama advisor mike flynn say they're deeply concerned. >> you've got the director of the fbi that has said we have a thousand cases going on in this country in all 50 states. i mean what's going on? so we have to pay attention to the refugees that are coming into this country. we have to pay attention to the undocumented or illegals that are in this country. >> last week on the 15th anniversary of 9/11, the secretary of homeland security said the u.s. is safer but challenged by a different type of attack. >> we're safer now when it comes to another 9/11-style attack, but we're challenged when it comes to the prospect of the lone wolf actor, the home-grown violent extremist. that requires a new government response. >> wile we still don't know who is behind the bombings in new york and new jersey, investigators say they do fit the profile of a lone wolf

attack. from new york to talk about the uptick in violence is ron johnson, chairman of the homeland security committee. thanks for being here. >> hello, brett. >> it's disconcerting for people over the weekend for people to hear about these attacks and to hear about the people injured. there is the question about connecting all of these and if that is happening with investigators. what can you tell us? >> well, just in open news reports, it sounds like the new york city police have connected the new jersey and new york bombings together. but, brett, what's so disconcerting about this is these are three attacks in literally 24 hours. and you start seeing attacks in minnesota. when i drive around wisconsin, i often ask audiences have you ever heard of samy mohamed hamzeh? they have heard of the center, and samy mohamed hamzeh in january of just this year told police and fbi informants he

would be happy if he could slaughter 30 people at the masonic center. these terrorist attacks are occurring with far too great frequency and all over the country. no place is safe. >> we've heard, senator, that isis is claiming responsibility or at least applauding the efforts in minnesota, and we don't know about the bombings in new york and the device in new jersey. but we do know that homegrown terrorism inspired by isis seems to be on the minds of intel officials the middle eaost. knowing what you know, is that your biggest fear? >> it is. it's the inspired lone wolf. but let's face it, we're now talking about wolf packs that are directed by isis. that's what we think happened probably in brussels and istanbul. we've seen this occur far too many places, san bernardino, and orlando. now we've got st. cloud, minnesota, new jersey, new york. we have got to defeat isis.

it's been over two years since president obama laid out america's goal toward isis, which was to defeat it. you know, we may be nibbling around the edges or may be doing some damage, but the analogy i always use is a beehive in your backyard. we know need to take out the dive. but president obama is poking the hive. isis is met as ta sizing, evo e evolving. it's spreading. about a month ago. brennan said our efforts have not reduced isis' terrorist capable. they remain a formidable, and largely intact enemy. that's not very good after two years of effort. >> your party's nominee is very concerned about syrian refugees specifically, refugees overall being accepted into the u.s. what's your level of concern as homeland security chairman in

the senate, but also as a republican running for re-election? >> in terms of isis operatives coming into this country, i'm more concerned about them coming in through our very porous southern borders. that's my first concern. listen, it's a legitimate concern to be wary of refugees that are not fully vetted. the first thing we need to do with any refugees is we need to set proper criteria. you know, we really can't left refugees in with zero risk. what i've always said about syrian refugees he, why not set criteria, for example, women and children relatives of syrian-american citizens who have the financial wherewithal to support them, and if there's any question whatsoever, you don't let the refugee in. i'm the sponsor of the safe act in the senate which would require the secretary of homeland security, the fbi director, and the head of the terrorism center to certify that whoever we let in poses no risk to america. and we really can't vet people that well. just take no risks. >> senator, you're up there in new york. to be a part of the united

nations general assembly as an invited guest. do you expect security to be increased exponentially because of what we've seen over this weekend? >> it will definitely be increased. there's already an awful lot of security. there's all kinds of barriers set up. this bombing obviously occurred outside that security zone, and so, no, i'm sure there will be heightened security. but we always have to remain vigilant. dhs's motto, if you see something, say something, is not just a trite phrase. americans have to be wary. unfortunately because we have not addressed islamic terror. we have not been relentless in tracking them down and defeating them. that's really what we have to do. first and foremost is we have to defeat isis and syria in iraq. and track down islamic terrorists wherever they may have taken up safe haven anywhere in the globe. >> i'd be remiss if i didn't ask you about the election. in wisconsin, donald trump trails hillary clinton in the latest polls by three to five

points. most senators up for re-election, republican senators, are outperforming the gop nominee in their states by a number of points. yours is -- you're roughly down by about three to eight points. what's happening in your race in wisconsin? >> i think the race is definitely tightening. most wisconsinites are enjoying summer. i actually feel pretty good about the race. i'm a citizen legislator, a guy with 31 years in manufacturing. i'm chairman of the homeland security. i've actually gotten results. i'm running against a 34-year career politician who has very little to show for it. senator fine gold actually believes hillary clinton is honest and trustworthy, so i think they'll make the right choice and i feel pretty good about the election. >> senator johnson, thanks for the time tonight. >> have a good night. up next, the v.p. nominees take to the airwaves on the sunday shows, setting up a busy

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this is a fox news alert. i'm kelly wright in new york. an update now on an earlier report that we've been telling you about that bomb blast that rocked the chelsea neighborhood of new york city saturday night. you're looking at video just acquired by fox news of police activity near a train station in elizabeth, new jersey, where a suspicious device has been found in a trash can. as a result of that, amtrak and new jersey train service has been suspended along the busy northeast corridor line.

the mayor was talk bk ing about let's listen. >> two gentlemen were working on the corner of north broad street ask julian place, and they noticed a package in a waste basket. they took the package out of the pace basket because they thought it was of some value to them. walked under the arch of the railroad trestle, around the corner, near an suv, saw wires and a pipe, dropped the package, thought it was no good. went to police headquarters to notify the elizabeth police of what they just found. the elizabeth police responded, checked it out, and looked at it, thought it could be a bomb, called the union county bomb squad, who sent in a drone to examine it even further. the drone indicated that it could be suspicious, and it could be a live bomb. the fbi is currently on-site. the state police will arrive and check it for evidence and compare it, at which time a decision will be made on how to remove it. currently all trains, both new

jersey trains and amtrak are shut down going through the elizabeth station. at some point a shuttle will be here to help take passengers north and south of the elizabeth station. hopefully this is going to be resolved by the morning commute. >> tell me about the response. >> the union county sheriff's office has responded. elizabeth fire department has responded. we currently have done a secondary search through other waste paper baskets all in the vicinity here, which has proved negative. and we're currently on site until this is resolved. >> that is the mayor of elizabeth. we should also tell you that earlier in the night, the fbi and the new york police department conducted a traffic stop near the verizano bridge. now, the fbi tells us no arrests were made and no one was charged or has been charged with any crime. and the investigation is continuing. but we have learned that five

people in the vehicle were from elizabeth, new jersey. joining us now by phone, fox news department of justice and law enforcement producer matt dean. matt, what can you tell us from your sources so far? what have they told you about this particular situation going on not only in new york city, but also what's breaking in elizabeth, and that's the fact that this trash can apparently had some sort of device. and fortunately for the people of that area, two passer-byes picked it up and noted that it was something that they didn't think it was. they thought it was something valuable, saw the wires come out of it as the mayor said, and then went to the proper authorities, which all people should do. be vigilant and if you see something, say something. that's exactly what happened here. >> hi, kelly. the first thing to note, it's very early on in the investigation, but there's no indication yet, at least, that these incidents -- the traffic stop, as you mentioned on the belt parkway in brooklyn and

this incident unfolding now in elizabeth, new jersey, are linked in any way. but what we do know now, fbi has since confirmed, as you heard the mayor say a short time ago, that they are on-scene. their bomb techs are on-scene right now to determine whether this is an active device or not. right now what we have in brooklyn, what we can confirm is that a number of individuals were detained and taken into custody by federal authorities, possible ties to the ploeexplos in new york city last night in the chelsea neighborhood. we stress the word possible. the investigation is still on going. the fbi noted no one has been charged yet. very early stages in the investigation. everything is still ongoing at this point. >> sure. matt, we know you're working your sources to keep us updated on it. have you heard anything at all with regards to the continued investigation going on in seaside park? that, of course, is the beach

area along the jersey shore. and yesterday they received a pipe bomb blast that happened moments before what was supposed to be the start of a 5k marine run, which is a run to benefit marines and their families. fortunately that race was delayed, and the bomb went off around 9:30 a.m. and as a result of that, because of no one being out there to run due to the delay of that race, there were no injuries whatsoever. but, again, that was another situation where they found a pipe bomb had gone off. people are suspecting that it could be related. have you heard anything other than that? >> well, we are -- first to note, these are all being conduct as separate investigations. but, again, as you noted, i mean the suspicions right here are too rife to not at least, you

know, think about the possibility that these incidents might be tied to one another. again, we don't have it confirmed yet, but it absolutely would not be outside the realm of possibility to think that the -- what which do have confirmed, i do know rick levin thaul was reporting this yesterday as well. the feds are looking at what happened at seaside park earlier yesterday morning and what took place in chelsea last night as possibly being connected in some way, shape, or form. exactly how, we don't know yet. we know that there's certain signatu signatures. the devices in either instance that are going to be looked at to see any similarities of the wiring, the shrapnel, anything that might point back to one specific perpetrator. again, what we have right now is no hard evidence linking the two, but it's definitely something that's being looked into.

>> new york governor andrew cuomo yesterday called this manhattan attack an act of terrorism, but saying there's no evidence at this point or at this time to conclude that it is international terrorism. do you hear anything from your sources within the fbi or other places throughout department of justice and law enforcement giving you some indication of what type of act this might have been? >> well, specific to the incidents here in the northeast, you know, in order to arrive at that conclusion, you have to have a perpetrator. you have to have folks in custody and you have to know their motives. until, you know, we have somebody, you know, in federal custody, knowing, you know, what they might be trying to accomplish and what their motive might be, you can't really ascribe any specific motive, whether it be domestic terrorism or international terrorism until you have that. you know, opposite what we saw in minnesota, the individual who

is now deceased shouting, you know, allahu akhbar and might have had, you know, ties to -- demonstrated ties to an international terrorism motive, that's a separate situation than what we're seeing, you know, unfolding in new york and new jersey right now because outside of these individuals that were detained -- and, again, we have to stress there have been no charges brought yet. they're not technically under arrest yet. we don't yet know the motive behind these attacks. >> all right. matt dean staying up late with us tonight and giving us all the details as he gets them from his sources within the department of justice, the fbi, and law enforcement. matt, we appreciate you weighing in on this and giving us insights on what's going on and your reporting on what's developing. and obviously it's something that all of us are concerned about throughout not just new york city but throughout the nation. and as you know, the general assembly, u.n. general assembly will be starting this week. so a lot of people are wondering

what will take place this week. obviously there's a heightened sense of security. the new york governor andrew cuomo stating he would have 1,000 state troopers as well as national guard to show a heavy presence. already as you can imagine, the new york police department is already out on all of the streets and all of the high-targeted areas and high-profile areas to ensure the safety of not only the dignitaries coming into the city but also the visitors as well as the people who live in this area. so throughout the new york region, triggered by two bomb blasts, we wanted to tell you about that. one explosion happening saturday morning in seaside park. that was in new jersey, just moments before a marine charity run had begun. no one was hurt. the other blast went off saturday night in manhattan, injuring 29 people. a second device was found a short distance away, but it did not go off. police later detonated that after examining it. all three explosives were placed

in trash cans or dumpsters. this comes, as i mentioned, while leaders preparing to converge on manhattan for the u.n. jgeneral assembly. this has been a fox news alert. we take you back now to special report already in progress. >> interestingly enough, it is one of two states that does two for the statewide vote, the popularity vote, and one electoral vote per congressional district. so chris stirewalt, it is conceivable that maine and the other state that does it is nebraska could split up their electoral votes. >> i like how you are thinking about the most die bollicle thing we would have to do on the decision desk on election night. you have conjured the decision desk horror story. i'm getting palpitations just thinking about that. my goodness. it would be exciting. >> we've got maine up here, and this is new hampshire.

but let's say new hampshire goes to the d. but you're talking about four electoral votes potentially, dana, in the scenario that could come down to a race that close. >> and there's some pretty tumultuous politics right now in the state of maine especially with the republican governor not being the most -- i think i can he's not popular. he's got a little bit of problems. so i think that new hampshire and maine -- yeah, those are going to be ones to watch. interestingly this past week, we say that kelly ayotte, the incumbent senator from new hampshire who is in a tough re-election race looks like she is able to stick it out. right now, if the election were held tomorrow, she would win. so that actually bodes well for donald trump probably. >> obviously we should point out any of these states can go the other way. and one state goes the other way that has significant electoral votes and you've got a scenario where donald trump can pull this out. so it is really interesting to see. and just a quick look back to

2012 and how the map looked in 2012. chris stirewalt, the real question for us now is whether the 2012 electorate is going to be the 2016 electorate. >> that's right. and when we've looked at polling in ohio and some fascinating polling that was done last week, which looked at what if it's more like a 2004 model instead of the 2012 model? what if millennials stay home? what if african-american and hispanic voters don't mobilize in the way for hillary clinton that they did for barack obama? if it's that electorate, then donald trump could stand to do very well in places with large white populations and lots of blue collar voters, and that's why i think you and dana are right on the money to talk about new hampshire and to talk about maine. those are the kind of states that could be bellwethers for a good donald trump performance. >> and we made it through. these are your toss-up states. this is new hampshire. this is maine. it was already blue, so my finger did a little clicking while we did it, but it wasn't the tv gremlins. congratulations on your show, and we'll be tuning in next

week. >> okay. thank you. >> thanks, bret. >> what one criteria is most important to you in deciding who will get your vote in november? let me know on twitter @bret baier and use the hashtag special report. we could use it later on in the show with the panel. up next, the changing face of law enforcement in a post-9/11 world. we could use it later on in the show. i wanted to know where my family came from. i did my ancestrydna. the most shocking result was that i'm 26% native american.

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the investigation in new the investigation in new york is only the latest reminder of the struggle to protect the company while at the same time preserving people's freedoms. rick leventhal has a report how american law enforcement officials are learning from israel's model. >> we are stronger against another 9/11-style terrorist-directed attack from overseas. >> reporter: a vote of confidence from the secretary of

homeland security on the anniversary of 9/11. so how much has security changed since that tragic day? in 2001, there were 35 joint terrorism task forces around the country. today, there are more than 100. since 9/11, the number of fbi special agents assigned to national security has nearly doubl doubled. also since 9/11, the nypd has formed the nation's cop counterterrorism division with more than 1,200 cops and analysts. near ground zero, we met with the nypd's head of intelligence and counterterrorism, and bill bratton, who just stepped down as new york's police commissioner. >> with the kind of job that you can never rest because the threat always exists. >> it's going to be here for our lifetimes and probably into the lifetime of our children unfortunately. >> and what's incredibly important is constant dlab ration. something that wasn't there before 9/11 between the federal agencies, among themselves, certainly not with the locals. >> reporter: collaboration matters to help identify and catch the terrorists before they

act. but aggressive tactics such as new york's stop and frisk raise concerns over profiling to identify potential suspects. civil rights advocates forced the nypd to revise the program. are your hands tied in any way at this point? >> i mean i would say that there are those constraints. but i would also say they're necessary. counterterrorism comes with intelligence, and when you're collecting intelligence in a democratic society, if you don't do it within a strict set of rules, you're going to end up on the wrong side of democracy. >> but you're still able to do what you feel you need to do? >> there's a major issue that we have talked about that's still subject to incredible debate, and that's the issue of despite all the gains of technology, with technology that are beneficial to us, there's a new trend over the last several years. interesting, just as isis began to expand its use of social media, and that's the encryption debate. >> if you look at the garland, texas, attack, those individuals

communicated with an individual working for isis in syria over 100 times in the 24 hours before that attack. that same individual for isis in syria was communicating with people in new york city over the same channel. so that's a tremendous challenge. >> reporter: we went to israel to find out how that country deals with the constant peril of terror that threatens its very existence. in jerusalem, we caught up with leaders on a fac finding mission. >> one of the things i learned over here that not only the police but civilian security and then also the general public just has a sense of awareness, probably more so than in the united states. and i think that's probably where we need to start heading. >> we spoke to prime minister benjamin netanyahu, a former israeli elite forces congressmm about combating terrorism. >> the way you fight terrorism is you fight the terrorists. you don't say i can't do

anything because i have to defeat their ideas. yeah, you will defeat their ideas, but first defeat them. you didn't say i'll fight the nazis by first defeating their ideas. first you defeated them. now, it doesn't mean that you can't have these forces of radicalism reappearing in europe or anywhere else. of course you can. but you have to keep weeding out these weeds. if you don't weed them out, they'll overtake your garden. >> reporter: israel's critics accused the nation of abusive tactics, but most israelis say they recognize you have to strike a balance between security and civil liberties. and oftentimes security wins out. some believe the next president may want to heed netanyahu's advice. rick leventhal, fox news. >> when asks in our latest fox news poll, americans are split on whom they trust to do a better job on terrorism. hillary clinton has a one-point advantage in this poll, but that is obviously within the margin of error. the clock is ticking as the bill that would allow the victims of 9/11 and their families, the families of the victims of 9/11 to sue the

government of saudi arabia for possibly supporting terrorism is really gathering dust on president obama ae desk. it overwhelmingly passed the house and the senate. last week white house officials made the president's stance pretty clear. >> the president's going to veto it. i don't want you to leave you with the impression that somehow the decision is up in the air. but the president will make -- you know, will veto it within the next ten days. >> but nothing has been done yet. senior capital hill producer chad per gram is here to explain what's taking so long. >> good evening. it's an issue of the calendar. per the constitution, article 1, section 7, the president has hen days, sundays excluded to veto a bill. if he doesn't, then it automatically becomes law. if he does send it back, congress does haven't a clock during the time that they can try to override it. it takes a two-thirds vote to try to override a veto in both bodies of congress. what president obama is trying to do here is maximize the time. congress is trying to finish this interim spending bill,

maybe include some zika funding and maybe get out sometime in the next week or so. so thursday, the 22nd, is the key. that's what we're watching here in terms of the timeline. >> chad, do they have the votes for an override? it seems like both houses -- or the house and the senate passed with overwhelming numbers. >> yeah, those were overwhelming numbers because there was no recorded tally. in other words, there was no opposition. i want to put a fine point on this, though. in the senate, it was done by unanimous consent, meaning nobody objected to them doing this. in the senate, it was a voice vote, so there was no recorded tally. per the constitution, you have to have a recorded tally to try to do a veto override here, and that's going to be a big challenge because there are a lot of members of congress who are for this bill, but there are some who don't want to be on the record against this and what president obama might do is try to postpone that veto override when there is a recorded vote on that until after the election. >> and you can tell we're 51 days away from that election. chad, as always, thank you. hacking has been a significant part of this

presidential election with e-mails from former secretary of state colin powell and the democratic national committee being released and talked about. but could a hacker actually change your vote? federal officials are adamant that that would be nearly impossible. but is that correct? senior correspondent eric sean investigates. >> can a machine be hacked? >> i have demonstrated how to hack the abc advantage voting machines that we use in new jersey. >> it is the bane of election officials because princeton university professor andrew apell says a touch screen voting machine, the type used in about ten states, can be tampered with. >> i unlock the back door. >> in 2008, he demonstrated how as part of an election lawsuit against new jersey officials. while he notes there has been no documented case of a machine actually being hacked this way in a u.s. election, he says it could happen by simply swapping the machine's computer chip for his own. >> i just have to replace this

one chip with a fraudulent computer program. >> he was able to change the votes the machine counted. >> i figured out how to make a slightly different computer program that just before the close of the polls, it shifts some votes around from one candidate to another. and i wrote that computer program onto a memory chip like this. and now to hack a voting machine, you have to get seven minutes alone with it, with a screwdriver. >> our experience here in this office, we all concur that we have not seen one documented case in a machine being compromised. >> john ber zou ski, the department superintendent of elections in hudson county, new jersey, insists in real life it cannot be done. he points to multiple redundant safeguards that protect machines. they are locked in secure areas under camera surveillance and broken security tape on vital parts would show any violation. >> i don't know how you could possibly do that to 500 machines

and get the secrecy and the time to do so. i don't believe that's possible. >> but the professor insists it is. >> the good news is it's not something you can easily do from russia. >> but the bad news? >> the bad news is that it really is possible to do locally. >> the voting machine company dominion told us the demonstration is not a realistic assessment, not a credible test they say because it was not an actual election.l says he's exposed a weakness and shows you should vote on a machine with paper ballots. next up, an expanded all-star panel joins me to talk about homeland security and the latest from the campaign trail.

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i've been brief i've been briefed about the bombings in new york and new jersey and the attack in minnesota. obviously we need to do everything we can to support our first responders. >> just before i got off the plane, a bomb went off in new york, and nobody knows exactly what's going on. but, boy, we are living in a time. we better get very tough, folks. we better get very, very tough. >> investigations continue into the bombings in new york and new jersey. the stabbing in minnesota as this night continues. as you see the two candidates weighing in on both major parties and the latest fox news poll on the issues, as you see them laid out here, economy, government corruption, terrorism, the third one down there, clinton holds a one-point lead in the latest fox news

poll. that is within the margin of error. and you see the rest of the issues there. this issue obviously will take a heavy prominence in not only the debate coming up but in the election in 51 days. let's bring in our panel, steve hayes, senior writing forethe weekly standard. zeke miller. and tucker carlson. julian, the attacks here raise the prospect and spectre that we're going to be dealing with this all the way from now on. these homegrown isis inspired. >> absolutely. law enforcement has eliminated the possibility in new york of this being connected to an international terrorist organization at this time, but that doesn't mean that in the case of new york, this is not a terrorism attack either, right? we've still got the very real possibility of domestic terror as well as what i think is even likelier, lone wolf terrorism,

by which i mean an operative who is not officially affiliated with an international organization like isis but is really in tune with their radical ideology. this is the kind of terrorism that people are talking about now when they talk about the third wave. this is really the future. we're seeing it spread globally, europe, africa, asia, everywhere really. >> you see the two candidates deal with it differently. donald trump really comes out hard, and then he gets sort of criticized for saying it was a bombing before we knew it was a bombing. but of course it turns out to be a bombing. and hillary clinton seems very measured and toned down on the plane in her presentation. >> yes, look, if i were advising donald trump, i would tell him it's always better to wait until you know exactly what's happened before you make a comment on it, having said that, what he said and what hillary clinton said wasn't that different sub stanley. she said it a couple hours later but basically was saying the same thing. these were bombings in these three different places. i think if you're trump, what i

want to do is project this strength and he does that every time. i'm not sure voters are going to be terribly upset that trump is getting out in front of this and seeming to project a willingness to be proactive and aggressive when it comes to terrorism. >> yeah. is there a sense that this is what the country wants is a fighter on this issue? >> certainly the way we saw donald trump respond, it's like san bernardino last year. all throughout this campaign, voters are responding to the way that donald trump talks about terrorism, at least his voters. the question is to be seen in that poll as well, you know, that's a large percentage of the country, but is it a majority. particularly if terrorism gets back on the front burner, this may be a referendum on which leader you'd like -- which style of leadership you want in the white house. >> aren't there independents and moderates who are also sick of people saying -- not saying what it is even though you know what it is? you know, like using different words or being very cautious, almost to the point of political correctness cautious about this?

>> euphemisms erode trust in the speaker who deploys them. i would say by the way we've seen a bunch of police shootings over the last year and you've seen democratic politicians draw broad conclusions would no knowledge of the facts. i haven't seen them criticized at all in the press. trump i think is being held to a different standard. he's the only person who is even suggesting maybe there a root cause we can address. minneapolis didn't have terror problems 30 years ago. there are now 25,000 somali refugees with their children and now it does. maybe there's a direct connection between a resettlement policy or immigration policy and our terror problems. why is he the only one saying that? >> the map didn't go as i planned with the different states. and, yes, i know the difference between new hampshire and maine. bottom line is the overall message was it's close, and some of these states are within two or three points. this whole thing could shift based on that one debate.

if it goes three points one way, a lot of those electoral college votes, zeke, change. >> absolutely. we talked about things like october surprises, late-breaking developments that reshape the way the race breaks. we always knew he was going to be tight. we just don't know wisconsin way it's going to break at the end. remember mitt romney had that great debate. he took a brief laid, and then barack obama came back for the win. yes, the first debate matters a ton, but it's going to be the consistency through all three that will probably show the trajectory this race is going to take on november 8th. >> there's almost certainly going to be additional external events. something big is going to happen. whether it's another attack. whether it's an economic downtu downturn, we've seen this. we saw it with george w. bush's dui in the last couple days of that race.

we saw in 2008, we saw, of course the economic collapse, and you always have almost a dynamic changing event in these last two months. i think that's, in addition to the debates is what will determine the outcome of this race. >> by the way, back to the map, colorado will be blue likely. arizona will not be blue. it will be red if you go by history. the polls are close, but history suggests that arizona will head towards the republican way. jillian, national security to steve's point, how much in these final days do you think that that focus is going to be on this? >> i think an incredible amount. as the weekend shows, there really -- the latest fox poll national on this is that they're neck and neck when it comes to who to trust on terrorism. you know, donald trump i think really took a risk last night. he shot from the hip. he didn't have all the information when he made those comments, and he went for it. and i think that he really connected with people emotionally. so history will judge him probably kindly for calling this a bomb, for calling out --

alluding to the fact that it was radical islamic terrorism. the risk for him becomes not so much in the days between now and november, but if he elected president and he does make these kinds of leaps, how are the american people going to respond because eventually he's going to be wrong, and that's going to be very risky for him. >> panel, thank you. after the break, why next sunday should be called super sunday. what's it like to be in good hands? like finding new ways to be taken care of. home, car, life insurance obviously, ohhh...

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