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on commented made by a domestic dispute. the fbi conducted internal date database reviews, none of which revealed ties to terrorism. he was the first american targeted for death by the cia and killed in a 2011 drone strike. it was a source of inspiration at the pulse nightclub in orlando. despite the very public statements we have had two sources insist the view, investigators as well as the federal level is that the search
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is not over and it seems unlikely based on the evidence that he was acting completely alone. >> thank you. appreciate it. >> you're welcome. >> let me ask you, did the fbi flub this? >> i was a big fan of law enforcement. they do a phenomenal job and commended for being able to get him into custody and people seeing something, saying something. everything worked right there. in terms of circumstances here we are hearing initial reports but we have not been able to verify the ver osty of the statements. if they went and talked to them they had to make a statement at the time. it is to be able to follow it up
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and what's the protocol. you don't want to hear something like this because they need to get it right one time and look at what happened. we are lucky that despite the injuries that there wasn't a loss of life in the circumstances. >> can i ask something on that? the suspect didn't initially talk but it would be wise because it is one of those bombs that he could be held responsible if it hurts someone. >> yes. as an aid or abetter. it is good he was taken alive. that's an information-rich source. you find out who was he speaking to? were other family members involved? are there other potential explosive devices planted in
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different areas? are there threads that lead to another terror incident that could be basically positioned to happen in the future that we could maybe prevent by information from him. that's what i think is important. >> one of the interesting things is this guy is a ghost online. he did not have a profile where he was in contact. >> going to afghanistan, we'll be in touch. his wife disappears two weeks ago. his mom disappears three months ago. he is in constant contact with somebody. there's no way this guy acted alo alone. no way he is sitting in the second floor with four other people like i wonder what he is doing with that huge pot and christmas lights. logic tells you there's something there. he could talk right now but he doesn't care. he is never seeing the light of day again. the biggest thing is that he
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nodded off and survived. i don't know what he was on that he couldn't stay conscious for 24 as the world is looking for him. orlando, they knew about him. new york, new jersey, they knew about him. if they want more restraints and more freedom. if not there's a problem. >> i'm sorry. go ahead. >> there is an over-arching threat to all of these. it makes him islam phobic. that's not an easy tling hing t is turn your son in. >> you have to be careful when you're making an akization licc. if you see something and say something you end up being something which is unpopular and
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perhaps you might get demoted. you look at the last four attacks. they all were traveling. they were all traveling to pakistan and afghanistan. here you have needles in a hay stack. you can actually see these needles moving. why not profile travel? that's not racist. it's traveling. >> right. >> i was going to say to you that the local fbi office said there is no evidence. >> that might be true. it is early in the investigation. we got so much more information hearing from the father that it's a little too early for him to say that. remember, the last time the government said there's nothing to see here there was more to see. i would wait. the other thing i wanted to point out -- two points. remember james komey says there
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is open investigation in all 50 states. that's one of the things taxpayers need to think about. is the fbi under resourced? do they need more people, recruitment, training? we should decide are we willing to pay for that. what are we willing to give up? the other thing is there is a very interesting article. no one is talking about it anymore. >> that's a good point. it was a very powerful image here. you can see a guy suspected of
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such crimes being attended to by emt's and giving all of his rights as a u.s. citizen. another reminder of how great this country is. in america we even treat bad guys with dignity. trump even suggests we maybe should treat him as an enmy comb combata combatant. >> he will be taken care of by some of the best doctors in the world. he will be given a fully modern and up dated hospital room. they will probably even have room service knowing the way our country is. >> you hear the same thing from senator graham. if he is treated no miranda
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rights and no rights to lawyers. you could go into a place. this is exactly what you're going to hear. it will kill him. i agree that with trump and senator graham that you should lose your rights. it is no longer up to our idealism. you forfeit and we have to. it's a new world. a police chief agrees with trump.
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>> it is to with hold information as quickly as possible to stop the next attack. there is an urgency. not deny, delay. understand that all of us you can be personal. all of us are some what at risk. >> if i understand he has not been read his miranda rights. he has not yet faced any federal charges. >> i understand it is because of his medical condition he has not been lawyered up yet. there has been no legal decision yet. >> that is the key. >> the judge says he has constitutional rights. she an american citizen. what do you think? >> that's right. we had a big battle here after snowden released all of the nation's secrets. american citizens should not be spied upon or this or that. whether we like it or not, he is an american citizen. one of the reasons we treat him at the hospital is because it is
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another part of who we are. we are a nation of laws. and also at a hospital, the reason you get room service is because you're strapped the a bed and you can't get food for yourself. can't go down to the calf tifec. >> goodness. >> he can get the family restaura restaurant, the chicken. >>. >> yeah, you can first dwez cig nate him and then try him as a civilian. would that work? >> it is definitely one approach. it can always come back on appeal. you brought up something else too in terms of public safety. when you have someone clear and compelling evidence you have bomb in new jersey, multiple different sites with explosive devices, ied's. you have an obligation to keep the public safe. whether you're an american
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citizen or not you would be able to say let me see if i can get some information and appeal to you as a family person, anything you do to try to get information or does he have someone else he's working with? it backs apparent he wasn't a solo actor. by the way, who else has he influenced? >> they could have. >> they could have been the guy that he used. he is the guy that gets caught first. >> the other thing we don't have time for is the domestic violence connection to the women and it's repeated in these instances. >> but the other thing -- >> the anti gay thing is important because it refers to christians. they can no longer escape the hypocrisy of islamism.
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i didn't say that. >> one of his advisers agrees. >> what did i do with that? i met with the ministry of religious affairs. i said how do you make a differentiation between extreme and not extreme? they say you have to identify idealology. they have tools for extreme vetting because they know what idealology is. >> that guy ton suit had your same suit on. >> it is like a corset. >> a guy comes in a hatch back -- >> after you have lypo you have to keep that area tight. >> the producers know about this being a real show said you're wasting valuable time.
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so he has a very specific viewpoint on this. >> and he did. he is building up the fact that he had a meeting with trump. he says the way we do it right now, we have a huge problem in egypt. this is a muslim country and we have to weed it out. these are my words. he had a different word for it, but extreme profiling. he recommended we kind of do the same thing. they are in a state of crisis in egypt. we have an apb out we can't even name the skin color. we tell them their height and hair color. >> and they are looking for the blond or brunette. >> right. >> and his policies about extreme vetting? >> yes.
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you have to be able to hunt people down but do it -- >> you know what greg said earlier? it's like we are at a bar and this is a guy at the bar and he is just mapping us because last night i'm waiting for trump to say this is how i'd do it. this is how i would target people. he says not only that, i'm not talking about muslims. he is appealing to fear and anger in the society. >>. >> the other thing in terms of being too piecey, it is an arabic name. i think we know enough now about that, the other thing we know is how you target or profile or whatever you call it, how do we start to deal with this moment of radicalization?
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the father said i'm turning in my son. there is something that triggers it and can we do a better job of than when it happens? the fbi said there were secondary screenings of two of his trips but there were no red flags. >> they took his passport in afghanistan. if you do something to violate the people of afghanistan you have pushed the before a long way. >> what upset me today was when president obama talking about globalization and dprocoming fr here and going from there. it's not about race. it is about ideas. it is not about appearance. they are doing vetting based on
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toxic ideas. the best prevention known to man, we talked about our body. human body because we rely on an immune system. that's the hardening of a hard target. another way to think about it -- >> we have a compromising system. we are the beacon of light that attracts all of these poor people to come here because they want to be free. in order to preserve that beacon of light we have to keep out the people that want to put the light out. the only way to have a safe haven is if it is truly pru protected. we are actually protecting the refugees that want to come here. refugees are leaving a place that is horrible. why bring it to here and
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eliminate a safe haven? >> that's not religious profiling, is it? >> no. >> that's the question. that's what gets the objection but the objection is a violation of your constitutional rights on the basis of your faith. his ammism is the most extreme faith. so it is religious profiling if you ask how you feel about it. they might lie. >>. >> what if they say they are not a communist? >> he was against the taliban. radicalization part. it might have been that he was an entrepreneur. >> i don't know how you do that. maybe listen to the dad.
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>> yeah. >> make him work for it. >> and we talked about law-abiding muslims that want to be here and have public safety. >> underwear bomber, same thing. next thing you know, his underwear is exploding. >> i had that problem. >> looks like your vest may explode too. >> they are picking on you. is he starting to get worried that he would beat hillary? greg will fill us in on all of that.
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ago. remember that? everyone knew hillary and no one knew him. he just cut in front of her. why? sexism and back then being the first black and trubeing the fi female. when all else fails blame pay tri -- patriarchy. >> obama is grasping at more straws than michael moore at a milk shake factory. >> after we achieved historic turnout it will consider it a personal insult to my legacy.
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>> if only he took terror this personally. he just woke up and realized he is late far final far class he blew up all semester. hillary has nomentum, a word i just made up. >> yes. all right. he seem as bs a bit concerned. >> i think that they believe she has the fundamentals in place. >> yes, she could blow it. the thing about him saying he would be personally insulted, i'm not the audience. if you listen to the audience he went nuts and cheered and they loved it. when he is talking about sexism
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he is very good at targeting the audience he is talking to. that goes to one group and this point about as the first african american president. he'll take it as a personal insult. that works as another group. it won't work with me necessarily. >> they were cheering from the moment he walked in. he said if you don't vote for me you are saying he is a reputuation of everything he has done for the last eight years. >> yeah. >> obama care, friends with cuba, the lack of action on syria, pulling out all of the troops, why can't somebody be a reputuation of what you were. you were a reputuation of what george bush was. >> that's true. it's a pendulum. >> what you said isn't logical. >> what didn't i said that wasn't logical? >> one poll had obama rated 58%
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positive. nobody agrees on everything. >> we did see 8%. >> let me say -- >> could you like -- >> michelle obama at 64%. >> you just proved my point. michelle obama isn't the president. is it possible people can like somebody and still think they are a bad president? >> it is possible. i'm telling you what we know about the person public is they are not donemeumb. they are looking at things like -- >> but why would he keep -- >> americans feel that the country is going in the wrong direction despite whether they like president obama. he is likable. he is a great public speaker. it is his legacy at stake. he does not want her to trip on the curb come election day. he wants her to deliver the
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white house so he could not have trump reputuate it as we said. >> a lot of people -- >> he fires it up about himself and climate change. >> a lot of people i think respond to what president obama said at the u.n. today. >> really? >> yeah. he said there are a lot of people who are angry over globalization, who feel threatened by it, who feel the trade is bad for their employment prospect. >> are they wrong? >> the people that do it wrong? >> there is a report out even today about how limits on trade would cause us to lose jobs. >> i got to move on. i'm glad you brought up brexit. he criticized the brits saying if you do brexit you're at the end of the line. now he is doing the same thing.
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it's outrageous to me he calls americans sexist. he never goes after islamism. >> he is only fired up about climate change and hillary blowing it. >> that was a fair point. >> and donald trump is unqualified and unfit for the office. if they said that about a senator they would be out rage from sea to shining sea. >> i think i said it. >> please stand when you say that. more coming up. stay tuned.
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hillary clinton and donald trump will square off for the first time on monday. we'll be there. lester holt will moderateme. we know what the topics will be, securing america and achieving prosperity and america's direction, so basically everything. >> it seems to be changing a bit. >> well, look, he is trying to some how convince people to forget everything he has said and done. you know, i don't think he will get away with that. >> if she treats me with respect i will treat her with respect. people ask me that, you're going to do this and that. you'll have to feel it out when you're out there. she has to treat me with respect. i will treat her with respect. >> so i have an interesting way to watch the debate. it won't happen this time because i won't be there.
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in 2012 i had the tv on but i had it on mute and i followed it on twitter. i would watch. you know when you're doing television they watch it with the sound off to see if you're persuasive? could he appear presidential? could she appear likable? >> i think it's true. it's part of being the message, part of communicating, being nonverbal. it sounds like if she feels like he insults him that he will bite back. >> what is the insult tolerance level at this stage of the game? they have three to go -- three total. >> this is the most dramatic conflict since cane and able. >> you're understating it. >> okay. it's against monday night football which is on espn. >> the presidential debate that
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may be less political than football, it will be more controversy. she has to appear pretty strong. she is fading faster than a labor day sun dance. it is for democrats. >> the only person -- you know why? you know what it's like to work a panel? you know what it's like to work a one on one show. donald trump only knows what it's like to work a panel. he does not know what it's like to be one on one and be back and forth, back and forth, back and forth. so there's going to be a lot of exchange. that's why i say, if you can handle these you're the only one prepared. >> good thing you'll be there.
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>> i have to give up and deny. >> what's this about your health? why haven't you been on the campaign trail? you need rest, dana? >> what do you think about lester holt? >> i think matt lauer is going through his mind. it's the whole thing about the system is rigged and they don't like me and the media is upset against me. >> he tried to say he was a registered democrat. >> who knows? >> she a very nice man. >> i like him a lot. don't you? >> i have seen him in a band. >> yeah. >> he does. >> yeah. it currently makes him equal if i had. >> six 15-minute segments.
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today she took the day off. >> that's what i'm saying. >> yeah. >> debate prep. >> from the democrat's perspecti perspective, what if trump says i'm standing here. i'm moderate. i'm reasonable. >> good. that's what you can do. >> if he blow as nuclear question i don't think it's that big of a deal. they want him to explode. they are reviewing all it takes to find his hot button to get him to explode then it's game over. >> i wouldn't want to be preparing for a debate, either of them. we have got a brangelina alert coming up. you both have a
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if you have not heard you might want to sit down. brad and angelina are divorcing. angelina filed for divorce siting irreconcilable differences. she is seeking custody of their six kids. brad says i am very saddened by this, but i what matters most now is the well being of our kids. we do feel bad for the kids but in terms of the most famous couple the fact that it is rumored, does it soften the blow for you? >> yeah, remember, brad and angelina claim that i had weren't going to get married. now that they are getting
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divorced i think we must end gay marriage. no. this is a huge story on twitter. it's amazing how many millions of people are more concerned about this than terror. people find pleasure in the misfortunes of the misfortunate. >> they are saying the ef devide smoke too much pot, drank too much and gets too angry. >> everybody at this table. >> you know what fascinates me about the story is the idea he was cheating on her with an actress named -- >> maria. >> i never heard of her. >> he starred with her in "world war ii." that's the problem of being forced to make out with someone to make a living. he had to make out with her. how do you do that and not suddenly feel as if the emotions are real? they yell cut, do you cut? >> not lou dobbs' show anymore. >> as soon as he gets cable, he's going to yell at dana? >> when she says he got -- he would get an ary, i think that's
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actually most women's complaint about husbands if -- the one thing that really bothers them the most is that the husband is an an ary guy. that really bothers you. >> really, more than anything else? >> my husband is not an angry guy. >> he's happy because he's married to you. >> he's british, but -- >> and he sings and tells really good jokes. >> i don't like angry. >> good company. >> do you like an ary? >> what? >> do you like angry? >> no. what did she just tell you? >> here's what worries me the most. according to his friends, he's in the throes of some insane middle-life crisis. ladies and gentlemen, if brad pitt, the most famous guy in the world with the most beautiful woman in the world with a wonderful family, he's having a midlife crisis, we're all in trouble. >> i know what the answer is. >> what? >> vest. >> vest. nothing else. no shirt, just a vest. >> i think they're going to both land on their feet. angelina jolie, a great humanitarian. >> he's very handsome, very rich. i'm sure he'll do well. angelina jolie is a gorgeous
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person. brad pitt deserves a lot of kudos for the way he handled the double mastectomy. i always think, man, that's an example. >> that is a great way to end it. let's just hope this doesn't become a big public spectacle because dana -- >> and we pray for the children and they were together for a long time. they waited ten years before they got married. anyway, it's sad. i hope they co-parent and work out the differences. >> a river runs through it now. now a huge gap. >> who gets the pot plants? >> i think it's his and that's the problem. >> but she gets to visit? >> one more thing, it will include this couple next. energy is a complex challenge. people want power. and power plants account for more than a third of energy-related carbon emissions. the challenge is to capture the emissions before they're released into the atmosphere. exxonmobil is a leader in carbon capture. our team is working to make this technology better, more affordable
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welcome back. it's time now for "one more thing." i'm going to go first because i know a lot of people who are undecided about who they're going to vote for in november. well, as a public service "the five" and "wall street journal" put together options for you other than hillary clinton and donald trump. how about god? that's right. god. god is aparticipaparently from island, new york, and registered with the federal election commission to run in this year's presidential race. >> wow. >> also wanted to get on the ballot ballot, darth vader, that's right. finally, my favorite outsider trying to run is one of my childhood heroes. >> cap'n crunch. >> it's unclear whether the
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cap'n and other candidates will pass the voting process. >> you're going to vote for darth vader, right, because you like "star wars." >> i like cap'n crunch. >> dana. >> i got a kick out of this little story out of australia. so this family is worried their daughter is missing, okay, so they send out -- they call the police and say our daughter is missing so the police in order to try to find her put something on her facebook page and just a couple minutes later she replies, i'm in my room. like, this is an overreaction. and the police then had to say, we actually have to see you now because it's been reported, you have to call us or have to -- so it was a family misunderstanding, but this is how things happened in the real world. >> no amber alert needed. >> do all the members of the family have weird faces? >> yes. >> we were being respectful in blurring the face of the child because she's 17. she's just in her room, though. >> i wouldn't want -- >> can you imagine, i'm in my room. >> it's your turn. >> article at
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foxnews.com/opinion, it's my latest take on the terror attacks from over the weekend. i urge you to read it. now for this. greg's birthday news. very excited. mitch mcconnell, mitch mcconnell turned 50. i think we have some pictures of him getting a watermelon cake. amazing how tasty that is. >> that is not right. >> actually, actually, i'm joking. i'm joking. we love mitch mcconnell. it's actually saro the tortoise at the perth zoo. i'm sorry, the perth zoo. it's a tortoise as i mutilate this. >> i thought you were going to say bill o'reilly. >> no, i wasn't going to say bill o'reilly. turtles have the best life ever. they've got their own home. >> brilliant. >> thank you so much. so this is a really interesting story. when chris jones was 5 years of age, he almost died by drowning at a hotel swimming pool in columbus, ohio. thanks to the actions of this
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officer here, james poole, interesting play on words, he lived. last friday about 19 years later, 24-year-old jones finally got the chance to thank officer pool swrn e for saving his life. take a look at this. >> remember me? from 1997. 5-year-old in a swimming pool. saved my life. >> wow. >> because of you, i'm still here. because of you. this 5-year-old girl right here. >> brian, your turn. >> last night, kevin can pwait, on cbs, retired cop from my hometown i still live in today. massapequa on the shirt and the sweat per. why was i not dealt into this? i could have been the guy on the set to find out what
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authenticity in television is all about. it would have been my first sitcom ever. i wasn't looked at ever. kevin james, put me on the show. >> i shut put him on. >> i can't wait. >> set your dvr so you never miss an episode of "the five." that's it. "special report" next. this is a fox news alert. welcome to washington. i'm bret baer. new information about the suspect in the weekend bomb attacks in new york and new jersey. what did federal authorities really know? and we have new surveillance video of that suspect just minutes before one explosion rocked manhattan. senior correspondent rick lev levinthal joins us live with the latest. good evening, rick. >> reporter: good evening, bret. businesses on 23rd street spent the day cleaning up and replacing doors and glass damaged or broken in saturday night's explosion. as you mentioned, we now have new surveillance footage taken from a camera a few doors down of
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