video. once he release the entire video i think people will at least get the opportunity to see it. good or bad, right or wrong julie. but if he releases bits and pieces it is not going work. >> that video coming up within the next half hour. >> and i'll see you on the fox report at 7. picture . >> this is a fox news alert. breaking news out of charlotte regarding the shooting death of keith lamont scott. >> today after having a conversation with the state bureau of investigations the lead agency in the investigation at this point, i have decided that we're at a stage where i can release additional information. without adversely impacting their investigation.

so now it is appropriate to release this information. in the spirit of transparency you are going to get everything that question deliver. -- everything that we can deliver. >> let's go to fox's steve harrigan live in charlotte. steve. >> kimberly, this could all happen within the next few minutes. the chief has vowed to turn over everything, the videotape from the dash cam as well as in the body cam of that shooting thursday of 42-year-old keith scott. there's been tremendous pressure on the chief on the police force here to release that video. a sense on the street, particularly among protesters that the police have? ing to hide. accusations the gun might have been plant order the police killed an innocent man. the chief has denied that all

along. they simply did not want to compromise the investigation by releasing the video too soon. we're likely to see the video and the chief has warned it is inconclusive. it won't prove one way or the other whether the police acted justifiably or not. but in a few minutes the people will be able to see for themselves. >> so dana, you have a question for steve? >> i just feel, steve, unfortunately we'd love to have you on our air but unfortunately you are usually in places where there is unrest or these type of stories that you have a done over the last several years and i wonder if you agree. seems like we're living through history. a trchgsal time where the treatment of evidence is changing right before our eyes and quite rapidly. possibly before the laws can change in terms of how you handle these things. i think the pressure from the public is such that technology exist asks you might as well

release it. and the police it even sounded today they are not quite comfortable with this but they are willing to do it. >> that is right. they are under pressure when officer demonstrators out every night release the tapes in a real sense of suspicion the police might have something to hide. there is a demand for immediate satisfaction. and the police have tried to make the argument that we have to interview people. and if you have seen videotape of what happened that could change what they say. so we want a fair and honest interview. there is pressure for immediate satisfaction. now the police have decided to turn that over so in the next few minutes we could see the videotape of that shooting. keep in mind we've seen one version. the family, the wife, the widow now actually videotaped that shooting a very emotional powerful document. again inconclusive but certainly galvanized a lot of people on the street who saw a woman pleading with police not o shoot her husband. >> we were listening to chief putney's conference there and at one point he said we're going

lee re lease because there is a lot of information the public deserves so see. and later on when he was asked a question he said i -- himself, he personal will i did not see. clarify if i'm wrong. e, chief did not see an instance where keith lamont scott had a gun in his hand. so as dayna points out this won't be conclusive necessarily unless i don't know there is a way to take the wife's video and then the body cam and somehow make a case that there was never anything placed at the scene. so therefore what they did find was there in his hand all along? if am it getting this right? >> yeah. the chief has been pretty firm that the officers involved did nothing wrong, according to his view. he's also within firm in saying that there was a gun present. despite claims there could have been a plant. the chief is saying there was a gun there and they will offer proof of that not just video

proof but dna evidence as well. >> -- >> he has 14 arrests in his past. at least one of those with assault with an armed weapon. he does a history. according to police he was not allowed to have a gun. and there was marijuana on the scene. and initially they were not looking for scott. they were looking for someone else. they noticed the marijuana and saw the gun inside the vehicle and things escalated from there. this is not a man a police were originally after when they arrived. >> unbelievable. greg. >> i don't have a question about what i haven't seen yet. so i want to ask about something

i have seen. the criminals. how is the progress going in in terms of arresting and prosecuting the mobs that attacked the people in the parking garage and destroy the property? do we know anything about the rotten people who beat innocent people up? >> there have been a number of arrests. 11 more last night. and police are using video footage to actually figure who was behind some of that window smashing and looting and capture those people. and keep in mind too as the city of charlotte is taking a bad hit in its reputation that things have changed in the last two nights. we had two nights of violence but the last two nights peaceful organized demonstrations and the numbers not huge. so the question now is is this newly released videotape going to inflame things further, turn people against the police or as

the police chief said will it be incon includkoconclusive and we continue to peter out on the street as far as violence goes. >> as we await the release of that important crucial evidence hopefully we'll put sol light on the whole situation and make make some of the people feel better. david thoughts. they are going to be able to release some important forensics which is going to be another important vantage point of what was present at the scene. some of the evidence they would need to process and tag right away, you know, in close conjunction with the time frame of the crime. do you think that is going to provide any kind of, i guess reassurance to the community that the police didn't do something wrong here? >> we haven't seen the videotape yet but i believe that putney was being as honest as he could be and as forthcoming as he could be. he did say no officers will be charged. he said that definitivefully. and i was curious what you how

toly. and i was curious what you how to -- everybody has a different perspective. human beings might remember differently. if you were the prosecutor, the da or making a decision about officers being charged or in the, what do you do before this technology when you are weighing those different things? i'm fascinated by this change and how quickly it is happening? >> it is pretty unbelievable. now you have everybody with social media and phones on their camera so there is an ability to be able to in real time document things as they occur. the first thing you want to do when you find out the suspect's wife had a video and had it on her phone you want to get that so it is not tampered with. you want to preserve it and look it for evidence and preserve the crime scene so you can't say hey people planted this and also the run of the mill process ofrg the forensics. any kind of material like dna and fingerprints and all the things you need in the lab.

a quick processing a quick turnaround. the fbi. state bureau of investigations. a number of agencies the dodge involved so so that allows you to kind of speed up -- >> also makes it a little slower. law enforcement can't keep up with what the public is demanding. > right because she had her tape out first now it's put the pressure on them to say hey you need to release the because all we now have is hearse and i think they are in trouble because especially with the writing kbopg on people are going to respond to that. begging for her husband's life. don't shoot. don't shoot. and say he doesn't have a gun. and they have to provide evidence to show this was a case of police overreach of brutality of planting evidence there are a lot of allegation os it there. >> yeah. the tape again is inconclusive. if you want this to matter or have an impact. you have to be dealing with

minds that would be willing to change. and i just don't see any minds refusing to bend on this. so when you present facts, the facts that dispute the larger story get thrown aside. for example the 14 arrests may have nothing to do with that. but it does give you an influence into what kind of behavior in terms of kploins with somebody with 14 prior arrests what kind of compliance did he present. the job of the police officer is to deal with non compliance. and unfortunately whence reporters look at things like this they don't see the job beginning until the camera is beginning. they don't see what is going on before that and they don't see the reaction -- that police are reacting to non con compliance. >> greg. >> you can't shoot somebody dead for non compliance. >> non compliance could mean anything. what i'm saying is they are trying to do their job and he doesn't put down a gun that is non compliance. >> if it's a threat to the police. the question is was there a way

to neutralize the situation without it ending up somebody dead. and -- >> -- >> you know, i have total respect for that and i appreciate the fact that the police protect me. i appreciate the fact that security protects me here as i do this show. >> especially with me around. >> i need some protection. but what i'm concerned about is again we are focusing on the minutia here. this is not an episode of law and order or forensics and blood and what does the video show. >> but those are facts. >> that's fine. but we have got a national crisis here when it comes to the black communities feeling that the police, nationally, use excessive force when dealing especially with poor people but specifically poor, black and latinos. and even more directly with young black men. >> so that is -- >> that's the larger story that when you present the larger story, the specifics just drop off of they just flake away. >> they don't drop off for me.

what what i'm concerned about in specific is if you listen to donald trump, as the law and order message. back the police. back the police. back the police. and then if you listen to clinton, equilibrate clinton is want to make sure that you hear the voices. i don't want to be sitting in my car and some guy come up and pop me and -- >> the facts don't support the narrative. >> -- i'll again push back on yuan's assessment that any group is more targeted than others or dies as the group than others --. for the better part of two years we've been talking about on this show the use of body cams. this for a long time. there's a $50 million program by the federal government that matches. if a local municipality, a police force wants to put up x

amount of dollars. the feds will match up to 50 million. that number should be triple or quadruple because this could save lives and property damage with multiples of the 50 million dollars. it will also exonerate the good cops and speed up the prosecution of bad cops. if there is an issue you would you will know it right away. only one cop had a body cam. >> but they also had a dashboard. >> yeah but you want the body cam -- >> i'm -- i just want to tell you when i talk to police chiefs they say to mi hey yuan we're glad to have the body cams but who's going pay for the storage? >> exactly. >> the body cams war big issue. pressed a lot by the public. one of the officers had it on so we're going to get that revealed soon. we're going to continue to monitor the situation in charlotte. as soon as the videos are released we'll bring them to you. coming up on the five, just two

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it's saturday and we're coming live from america's election headquarters. but the biggest showdown just 48 hours away. hillary clinton and donald trump coming face to face to duke it out for the first time here in new york on monday. will trump hold back this time? not according to one of his surrogates. >> donald trump is not going to reinvent himself. hillary clinton is going through this like hillary clinton doesn't know who she is. she's got to stand there and go through this. doing psychological profiling and this. donald trump is going to come out there and be donald trump. if you believe in what he believes in, vote for him. and if you don't, don't. and boy, is that refreshing. >> hillary clinton is getting advice from a guy who's been

through a few debates himself. >> be yourself and explain what motivates you. i've gotten to know hillary and see her work in tough and good times. sees in there for the right reasons. >> danny, you are the pro huron appearing in public. >> i think i share that with all of you. >> i think you have given counsel to people in political position. >> i fell like it is a little different for me. by the time i was the spokesperson for president bush he had watched his dad be vice president for two terms and be president for one term and to lose a race. and to be there when his dad did not do well in the debates against bill clinton. then he runs for governor and twice for president. by the time i got there there was no changing him. and i they that's kind of true about these candidate too. they are 69 or 70 years old. i think they do know themselves.

part of the trump positioning hillary clinton doesn't know who she's. i think some people perceive her as such but she herself probably knows who she is. there is a lot of pre debate analysis and i don't think any of the thinks that is what's going to happen. the other thing is this race is very close right now. he's done a lot better in september than august and he's got momentum, which is great. you can't necessarily win an election based on debate but you can lose one. and so i think that is why the clinton people seem very nervous. >> so let me ask erik about donald trump. here is what i've observed about donald trump on a debate stage. he talks about his polls and i suppose he'll talk about gaining momentum. that is what he did during the republican thing. and the second thing is he tends to go quiet sometimes and he also tends to just take a shot. remember the nick names. can that work here with a woman? >> he has some advisors.

people who have done wonders for him. poll numbers coming up. momentum is in his corner. i came up with four ideas. i'll go through them very quickly. this is what he should do. the big question about him. in the ad that's working of hibbe hillary clinton's is his temperament ad. stay calm, don't brawl. number three is the message. stay on the message. you are part of that same old school establishment stats quo politician. do you really want more of that? if you want more of that there is your president. if you want change come to me. that would be the right message and then do this. ask her how much a gallon of gas cost right now. something like that to that effect to find out if she's really in touch what w what's going on.

>> does he know? >> well i don't know. -- >> so kimberly, i know you are not a big hillary fan but imagine you are hillary, what are you trying to accomplish and what kind of shot would you take at donald trump? >> i think you try and get under his skin and provoke the spontaneous combustion where he will say something offensive that will offend women, millennials, independents. some of the people you would like to pull numbers from. set it out there and see if you can get him to take the bait. he hasn't done a debate one on one before. this is really going to be like ma know a mano. he's been more measured lately. and think of the influence of some of the people around him

now like kellyanne to try and get him to understand some of the nuance of that. but at the same time you don't want to try and, you know, re-make him because that will turn out like some frankenstein experiment. >> what we learned today is philippe raines is playing donald trump. i don't know if you know felipe. >> we lived together in the nineties --. no i have no idea. >> he can be explosive in dealing with me or any reporter. >> his e-mails. >> the history of e-mails that went public at one time. does it help if you have somebody who cea's trying to be jerk to hillary clinton? is that the trump people expect? >> you have to build up the immune system. you have to get dirty. you have to be tough. and the people around you have to have the guts to be tough. i think when i read all of this

debate prep, it is a contrast between the studier and the class clown. it is lisa simpson versus bart simpson. she's going prepare like crazy, and he's going to go for laughs. and the thing is, the reality is generally the class clown wins because it is more memorable, more interesting and more exciting to see a joke than to hear like a fact and she wants to steep herself in facts i think she might have to learn to be -- everybody says how funny she is privately. i have yet to see that. >> we're waiting. >> and his strategy is to let her talk, right? that is what he wants to. >> he should. absolutely. let her talk as much as she possibly can for several reasons. one she's not that likable when she talks and she's had a history of when she talks a long time her voice. if she starts coughing there are no breaks. it is 90 minutes straight through. >> he should smoke a cigar just to see if he can get her to

cough. >> the most watched of any -- apparently somebody taught she was funny. hillary's e-mail controversy, it's back and right before this crucial debate and there is a lot of new stunning information to dissect. mr. dayna parrino has details. and we're keeping a close eye on a trump rally expected to begin soon in virginia. the gop nominee going to speak to his supporters. keep it right here on the five on fox. ♪ ♪

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that races questions about this president from the. >> when kri did you first learn hillary clinton used an e-mail system? >> at the same time everybody else learned it through news reports. >> during the investigation the fbi shows one of the exchanges between the secretary and the president to clinton's top aide huma abedin and she reportedly expressed shock explaining how is this not classified. and then expressed her amazement at the president's use of the pseudonym and asked the she could have a copy of the e-mail. we don't have enough time to say anything. but i'll tell you this. genie eight years ago said to me kimberly, mark my words, the biggest mistake barack obama is about to make is having a blackberry e-mail.

he clearly was e-mailing her with somethis bad. >> the more you unravel with this the worse off it get trs both of them. but the thing is the clock is running out. end of the half and if somebody is going to take a three point shot, what are you going to do? i think she's going to get through this unfortunately because i believe in the truth and transparency coming out. but this is just sort of a slow walk past te election. but for the president, this isn't very flattering, to say the least that he was uni ware of the situation as well. >> also shamelessly reckless. one of the things huma abedin said she would do is get information from the department of the state. copy it on to a different e-mail so she could use yahoo and send it to the secretary. yahoo just got hacked yesterday. biggest in history. >> president didn't know exactly that was a private server and

sometimes a name will come up and you don't know that is going to a private server or going directly to the secretary. for me there is something vastly bigger in those 200 pages. the fact that four people. >> immunity. >> on hillary clinton's staff. >> pagliano, cheryl mills, bells? and anderson. and one of them cheryl mills was actually present when the fbi was deposing hillary clinton. >> act at her lawyer. >> act as her lawyer. it is insanity. >> it is so inappropriate. >> if all fbi investigations go down like that. and -- was the one who said the reason they can't property her further is because they are giving out immunity like candy. >> and we got have to have --. >> news that obama used a pseudonym on e-mail.

but what's disturbing is the pseudonym which is really o kenyan at gmail.com. why isn't anyone said that? >>. [ laughter ] >> pseudonym, barry sotoro. >> yeah it is. a clown car this is. she gets more passes than you do kimberly at a club. >> i want to argue with all of you. i love conspiracy theories but the hyperventilating today. i don't get you guys. >> what is it? >> oh yeah. this proves something. this proves -- why didn't this gernt immunity -- look. wait a minute. you have two hundred pages here. no headline. do you know what the headline is. she didn't even know her own password.

she spilled coffee -- >> you county think it is a big deal that the president and her were e-mailing each other. >> -- they don't know. they don't know. and i'm going to tell you something and greg makes this point often. i don't like it because i take it so personally but i often have to ask my kids to help me with the laptop today. help we google ert. oh that's ridiculous. they should know. sometimes people don't know! -- >> james comey offered immunity to four of her -- >> yes -- >> the -- >> cheryl mills knew and can't be deposed and can't be blamed. >> sounds like fbi fact-finding mission rather than an investigation that was going to ever lead to an indictment. >> like he was trying to use every power at his disposal.

including pagliano who is basically just an i.t. guy to try to find did she do something. >> he was just following orders. not a great defense. >> -- to run for president to get the nomination because serve handed immunity like that you about it going anywhere. >> she's not only had a good answer to her e-mails to date. i don't see how she comes up with a better one on monday night. we got to keep going. every debate has them. they are zingers. donald trump's known for his. we're going look lack at the most memorable lines in all history. and waiting for donald trump to appear in roanoke virginia. i served in iraq in tikrit in 2009. >> and the tapes. ♪ that were really shocking. 11% of me comes from the part where i had served. we all come from such different backgrounds that you never know. ...doesn't go on your wrist. technology... ♪

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night. an opportunity to perhaps change the game with one strong memorable line. let's look back at some of the most popular in about the history. >> these are the kind of elements of a national health insurance important to the american people. governor reagan again typically is against such a proposal. >> governor. >> there you go again. i will not make an issue of this campaign. i am not going to exploit for political purposes my opponent's youth and inexperience. >> i have as much experience in the congress as jack kennedy did when he sought the presidency. >> senator, i swerve jaerve wit kennedy. i knew jack kennedy. jack kennedy was a friend of mine. senator, you are no jack kennedy. >> those are some. they left out my favorite. >> what was your favorite? >> when george w. bush and gore

were gong itat it. and looked at him and checked him with his head. and i had asked someone. i said you can't practice for that, right? and they said actually, mark mckinnon apparently had studied all these tapes of al gore and told him gore likes to get in people's personal space so don't be surprised if he comes in on you. now the reaction of the president's was natural but that moment is actually credited with helping president bush win the vote of -- well the question of who would you rather have a beer with. >> that was great. >> that is the story -- >> -- before you go on let me just come back on that which is then the famous moment everybody is talking about today with regard to hillary clinton is rick lazio in the senate

campaign. lazio walks into hillary clinton's personal space and it is taken that that drove hooints numbers way up because women saw it as such a personal offense. >> afterwards the campaign blew it up as fazio's buhling. >> so trump should do that. >> -- potentially a negative about his age into a positive and also showed his sense of humor so it sort of like wiped it away. like when you use dawn to do the dishes. >> one of the others is 1960, nixon. the first time i think it was televise and he fused to wear make up and ended up sweating a lot. >> sweated a lot. yeah. >> who else does that?

>> who? >> i'm not going to say. somebody that works here. that refuses to wear make up. >> oh that's right. >> do you know who i feel bad for any feel bad for dan quayle. he's probably home right now. just got back in work and watching the five and oh know not this again. like the political equivalent of the ball going between bill buckner's legs. even though you have done other things. he'll always be remembered for. and -- >> ice cold response to the question about rape. >> the undecided, the people who are persuadable is they want to connect with you emotionally as a human being. sometimes it doesn't matter if you are the brightest bulb as greg was talking about lisa simpson versus homer. if homer is funny you are going to say --

>> bart. >> bart. not homer. >> al hthough homer might be a better. >> -- i think the biggest mistake every made was gerald ford who said oh there is no control over -- >> i read that in an article in the atlantic. that is not what he meant and. >> not what he meant and it hurt him -- >> i am lisa simpson. shoon i'm going the lose. >> leave it right there. social media, saturday, stay tuned for our answers to your questions about the election. constipated? trust number one doctor recommended dulcolax use dulcolax tablets for gentle overnight relief suppositories for relief in minutes and stool softeners for comfortable relief of hard stools. dulcolax, designed for dependable relief i'start at the new carfax.comar. show me minivans with no reported accidents.

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>> it's social media saturday we're answering your election-related questions. thank god i said election. that will be later. in the health hour. >> no delay. keep it clean. >>ion it. asked if you were asked to moderate, would you do it or would you be nervous that you might mess up and ruin your career. >> you take the opportunities as they come. don't say no. yes, of course you do it.

yes. >> that's pretty funny. okay erik. >> why? >> no no. because if you applied that in everything in life your life e would be a disaster. >> career opportunities. >> elwell there you go. >> -- last said the five should moderate. >> whatever to family feud? here supposed to do that too. let's do yuan and then you short attention span theater. >> and i got twice. he had the audience. the audience wasn't on my side. but i must tell you. it is interesting that i think lester holt is right now -- the question is do you have to prepare for lester hoeltd or not? and i think if you have to prepare for lester holt that is a problem. and we'll see how hillary does.

because people think hillary -- you know, if trump starts off with the fabulous -- >> right. >> if question was. >> yes. where are you going he's not going to correct trump. >> of course i would do it. i would absolutely love it. >> of course you would. >> of course i'm the one on facebook that's sable f ee's avn hour. >> and i said i wanted to go to my laundromat to see if my shirts were getting clean. everybody at home, he's right, i don't think they clean my shirts. i would say yes to the proxy of the debate, and i would show up with gastrointestinal problems that you wouldn't believe. there's the dread before i do some things that's 1,000 times worse than it really is.

what will be your primary snack during the debate. what's your second favorite snack? >> i like coffee and i love snacks. >> hot dog? >> pigs in a blanket. delightful. >> what was it first, salami? imagine if you're in a public situation. >> no, it's not. >> not the ones i get. >> i just sip on coffee, it doesn't matter what i'm doing. >> you eat cookies on the set on election night. >> so i'm commenting on facebook, fox is going to do a facebook live and the comments are going to come up, my primary snack is going to be vodka and club soda. if you see the conversation changing over the last 90 minutes, you'll know why.

>> i have developed a significant love affair with -- >> don't tell dentist. >> my favorite -- i have a new one, you don't like them very much. it's a para nuts. you open it up, it's 90 calories, it's great, but you don't press on them to open them up because they'll pop-out. >> also i like corn nuts. >> your dentist is going to freak, i love them. #. >> i'm with you, my snack is basically alcohol. and then my fingernails. >> oh!

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it's time now for one more thing. kimberly, you go first. >> all right, i will. kimberly's food court.

pretty exciting day for us here on "the five" particularly for the food court, because behold the greatest food invention since sliced bread. the doughnut ice cream sandwich, what happens when baskin robbins and dunkin' doughnuts mate. they make this. >> a doughnut ice cream sandwich. >> this is what's so delicious about it, you can get chocolate, you can get vanilla. >> first gay marriage and now this. >> uh-huh. >> juan, you go. >> i'll go. so tonight on show-time, check this out, john mcafee, he's the eccentric multi billionaire who

was accused of murder, he's back running mcafee. >> i need you to get me out of the country alive. we just put him on a boat and run him into guatemala. >> now he's back in the united states, it was as if it hadn't happened. >> the guy killed people. >> he goes from running away from something, to now running for president of the united states. >> i don't see how he can lose, i'm serious. >> all right, so check that out, check your local listings on showtime. juan? >> today, president obama joined by president bush for the opening of the national museum of african-american history and culture in washington, d.c., a very touching moment came at the end. president obama and first lady michelle obama joined four generations of the bonner family, descend departments from

slaves, 1863 president lincoln signed the emancipation cl proclamation. >> you got david angelus, a great show. another little moment from the opening ceremonies that juan just talked about. this is so human. take a look at this, g.w. is trying to take a picture of some people, let me see if i can -- >> they're trying to do a selfie. president obama asked if he could do it for him. i think it's awesome that the president actually does a selfie. >> i'm doing a one more thing tease, perdue university has this awesome professor named

murdock and he has an awesome idea. and i'm going to safe that for monday. >> see you on debate night, good night, everyone. and a fox news alert, donald trump set to hold a rally in roanoke, virginia, that is a key swing state in this election, hillary clinton has had a tight hold on virginia for most of the race so far. but it's the home state of her running mate, tim kaine, but paul says he has another state that's tightened in recent weeks. we'll bring you that rally the moment it happens. >> hi, eric, we are just over 48 hours away from the first presidential debate, cruz now putting the final touches on hofstra university on