to clarify the charlotte cops, they say he was found with a gun with his fingerprints on it. the gun was not registered to him. the thief said it sold it to scott. thoughts on the debate tomorrow. tonight, let me just can you this. you've been doing this for 30 years. why are you just thinking about these solutions right now? >> the candidates clashed in an epic presidential debate showdown. >> i have a feeling by the end of this evening i'm going to be blamed for everything. >> trump offered substance by a robotic hillary clinton repeated her memorized lines written by someone else. laura ingraham and herman kaine are here to react. >> you are going to drive business out. >> then trump hit clinton hard over her big government proposals. >> look at the middle east. it's total waste under your

direction to a large extent. >> and trump exposed clinton's long history of failures. lieutenant jean mark flynn joins us with reaction. >> plus blatant mainstream media bias lester holt flat out ignored all of hillary clinton's major scandals. hannity starts right now. >> tonight it was billed as the debate of the century and it did not disappoint. last night's showdown was the single most entertaining and most watched debate i've ever seen. and facts are just facts with nielsen ratings and it highlights how out of touch the mainstream media is with you, the american people. now a female viewer to this show sent us a note. she said, i thought he did well until i started watching the after shows and they mentioned all of the lost opportunities. now if you listen to the elites

that are on television and radio, they also universally, they think hillary clinton won that debate. but millions of you americans voting online, you thought trump won the debate. let's take a look at a few of them. drudge has trump winning with 82 to 18, "time" magazine, 55% for trump, fortune trump wins there, slate magazine and it goes on and on. now to be fair, the clinton news network, cnn, they did have hillary winning. and there are many others. but the question is this. how can the mainstream media try to say otherwise. the answer is quite simple. there are two very different standards by which the debate you saw last night is being judged. just look at these numbers from gallop. congressional approval rating at 20%. trust in the media just hit all all-time low, only 8% of the

american people think they have a great deal of trust or deserve a great deal of trust. and we cannot ignore that almost exit poll in the party showed a majority of americans, republicans felt betrayed by their leaders in washington. if you're a typical journalist, politician, you're using a standard that no longer exists for real-life americans. these prepared zingers of hillary written by somebody else, perfectly memorized, robotically uttered by her, that's old school and out of touch. the core of clinton's is she's going to take demonizing corporations attacking the rich to a whole new level. she's be president obama on steroids. are you ready for that? have the last eight years been good for you? clinton denies the truth about

how dire the economy really is. but the american people feel it just like lester holt in his opening question denied the reality of where we really are as a country. here are the real numbers that lester should have brought up. the lowest labor parties rate since the 1970s, 95 million americans are out of the labor force, american has had the worst economic recovery, lowest home ownership rate in 51 years, there are almost 13 million more americans on food stamps, another 8 million americans in poverty, 4 3 million americans live in poverty, today in america one in five american households don't have a single family member in the workplace. one in six american men ages 18 to 34, they're either in jail or out of work living in mommy's basement. and president obama will leave office having accumulated more debt than any other president, all 43 other presidents before him combined.

now african-americans have been disproportionately impacted. there's been a 58% increase in the number of african-americans on food stamps. there has been a 20% increase in the number of african-americans who are not working. this is the great divide. americans know this. you're living this. these are real people, real suffering brought on because of washington, d.c. so the debates about the old standard, let's memorize our lines, let's regurgitate them and get our zingers in there, that's disconnected from the real suffering of people caused by government. now my overpaid friends in the media, they like their fine steak houses and expensive wine lifestyles. none of them are feeling this, the people you're watching on tv. there in lies the contempt.

how can we afford all that hillary clinton proposed when we have $20 trillion in department and $120 trillion in unfunded liabilities. watch this. >> let's have paid family leave, earn sick days, let's make we are affordable childcare and debt free college. we can have enough clean energy to power every home pep we can build a new modern electric grid. >> shovel ready jobs that weren't so shovel ready. what he's proposing is mathematically impossible and that's with where the disconnect exists here. in the african-american community donald trump brings up in chicago this year alone over 3,000 people have been shot. and okay 3,676 people have been killed since obama became president just in the windy city. and somehow hillary clinton says everything is just fine. we've failed the african-american community and also we're failing the country. fooling schools, crime, poverty drugs and the list goes on and

on. and hillary doesn't care about these facts. the media doesn't care the facts. they just want the vote every four years. it shows you just how disconnected she, liberals and the media are from reality today. obamacare is another perfect example. lester holt last night didn't even bring it up or point out that clinton wants to expand the program that's crushing you, the average american. remember all of those broken promises about keeping your plan and save $2500 per family per year. none of that happened. the average family lost their doctor, lost their plan and are paying on average $4,100 more per year for employer sponsored plans. friends in washington, d.c. don't seem to care about this. they have great plans. and the same goes for the friends in the media. and on foreign policy we've got

another huge disconnect. hillary clinton can't say radical islam. but the elites in the media, they don't care about that either and they're refusing to acknowledge that death and destruction that she created as secretary of state. they went to talk about birtherism. isis is now spreading all other the globe including right here in america. libya complete chaos. iran the largest sponsor of state ter arorterror. they got $150 billion richer thanks to hillary clinton and obama. ramadi, tikrit, fallujah and mosul has been given back to isis by way of hillary clinton and barack obama's bad policies. hillary says it's a mistake. but what if it was your son or daughter that died. flat out ignoring the thousands and thousands of american kids who lost their lives and limbs

and her saying it's a mistake? we need to learn from it? d.c. politicians and the media, they don't seem to care much because they're not bleeding and dying and they're not the ones suffering. there in lies the poll divide. the media have their spin, the pundits have their spin, the politicians have their spin but you the american people in poll after poll last night you saw a very different debate. here with reaction, the editor in chief laura ingraham and he's also a fax news contributor, herman kaine. i have never seen, laura, a disconnect like this. you've got this list of polls donald trump wins. you watch tv, hillary clinton wins. do you agree with this? disagree with this? >> i think there's a divide that runs through every issue that's animate thd campaign system from the effective globalization, the big trade deals that hillary

claimed she was so skeptical of, the immigration question, how we should process things like health care and the refugees. that divide has been there for a long time. we papered over it in 2004. the republicans came together and elected george w. bush. but for some years we really haven't dealt with that divide. and i think a lot of candidates came along and they rejected this idea of a more populous conservatism that trump has embraced. and they just decided they weren't going to do that. trump takes these issues and as a billionaire, he comes off more blue collar than a lot of guy on capitol hill for a long time. last night you saw the authenticity. he's not a -- he doesn't do this for a living. he habit been debating for decades in washington. but he has common sense and pragmatic thinking and he's

frustrated that america is moving at a glacial pace with a non nonrecovery recovery. that frustration came out last nuth but he's frustrated because he wants america to grow and be safer. that part of it really hit people last night, even if he hits some opportunities to score points. the authenticity is real. >> i would agree maybe he shouldn't have been defensive at times, maybe about his taxes and other issues. can you imagine going into this debate that i could tell you that the moderator wouldn't bring up the clinton foundation, the benghazi or saudi iranian money that hillary takes. none of those things came up but they did talk about birtherism. . >> sean, your openi ining monol

is the best monologue you've ever done. when america has a cold, black america has pneumonia. thank you for saying that. hee here's why. many black voices won't tell the truth to the black community. you just did. donald trump is telling the truth to the black community. you're absolutely right. i thought lester holt and nbc that they were going to rise above showing that liberal bias. they didn't. and the reason that they didn't is because of the liberal bias that they showed by not asking about the things that you identified. that was probably my biggest disappointment in lester holt and nbc. now the fact that he said these are my questions, no. those were nbc's questions and it showed that bias was there. because if you look even further -- one of my callers on my video show today pointed this out eloquently. the questions to trump were

leading questions to put him on the defensive. the questions to hillary were all layups. and lester don't do any follow-up question. so thank you for saying what a lot of people will not say. >> sean, i think that herman is right. holt didn't bring up any of those things. the questions were very personal. went to so-called scandal or supposed misdeeds when it came to trump. none of the other things were mentioned. this is where it's really important for the nominee to say, you no matter what happens, i'm going after the clinton foundation, i'm going to hit the corruption in washington. we're going to hit the skyrocketing cost of health care, go after her position on refugees. using her position to sell accesses and speeches for her husband and donations to the foundation. no matter what happens you as the candidate need to get the points in. >> i agree with that. >> you just have to get it in.

hillary did that. she did that with the tax return and all of that. >> i think he fired every bullet in her gun. he memorized robotic attack that somebody wrote for her she got in. there's opportunity on all of the issues i mentioned, deleted e-mail and the server. >> special prosecutor. >> and i think there's an opportunity for trump to bring all of those things up. but the fascinating things, holt interrupted trump 41 times, hillary 7. asked only six questions of both candidates but 15 questions only for trump. and wit us wrong on iraq, the economy and stop and frisk. he was wrong on three candy crowley's in one debate. but the online polls show trump won. what do we take out of that versus the punditry class? >> this election is about whether you think we're going in the right direction or not. hillary has a record in public

service. trump does not. she's trying to hold him to the same standard that she won't even hold herself to when he was secretary of state or senator of new york. people are looking at the country, the crime in the streets, the out of control borders, the economy and a lot of people are sick of that. he has to keep coming back to the themes and the job question, she's never created a single job. most people want a future that is bright and they want truth told to hem. >> there was one test to trump come in. can he be presidential. i think he passed that test with flying colors. >> i think he passed that test. he was calm. and the fact that the online poll said that trump win, it points out that there's a disconnect between the american people and the liberals. and the fact that the online polls was so overwhelming in

favor of trump, that said that yes, the liberals and the democrats think the american people have stupid and those polls show they are not stupid. that's the bottom line. >> this happened in the primary too. it's going to be -- it's a fascinating 43 days from now. thank you both. >> and coming up, we have highlights from donald trump's rally tonight in florida. but first -- >> you're going to approve one of the biggest tax increases in history. you are going to drive business out. >> last night trump hammered hillary clinton over her disastrous economic policies.

good evening. live from america's news head quarters. home grown attacks are the biggest terror threat facing america right now. that's in jay johnson who testified on capitol hill earlier today. the hearing comes a little after the week of the bombings in new york and new jersey and after a man stabbed nine people in a mall in minnesota. the suspects became radicalized in the u.s. a suspicious package were found inside the head quarters. the build was evacuated. it's been removed by a robot and is now being checked by the bomb squad at a remote location. the scare comes a week of the sho sho shooting.

you are going to prove one of the biggest tax increases in history. you are going to drive business out. your regulations are a disaster and you're going to increase regulations all over the place. and by way, my tax cut is the biggest since ronald reagan. i'm very proud of it. it will create tremendous new numbers of jobs. but regulations, you're going to regulate these businesses out of existence. >> donald trump last night going after hillary clinton over her economic proposals. and donald trump is now back on the campaign trail holding a rally in the key swing state of florida. here are some of the highlights. >> we are going to win florida so big. going to be amazing. this is a movement like they have never seen before. never. last night was very exciting.

and almost every single poll had us winning the debate against crooked hillary clinton big league. big league. she is as crooked as they come. for 90 minutes i watched her very carefully and i was also holding back, i do anything to embarrass her. but i watched her and she was stuck in the past. for 90 minutes on issue after issue hillary clinton defended the terrible status quo. while i laid out our plan, all of us together to bring jobs, security and prosperity back to the american people. >> and joining us now, former white house secretary ari

fleischer. let's talk about the difference between so many online polls and the media class. what do you think? >> the polls are not scientific but they all point in one direction. why are all of these media organizations taking the polls if they can't talk about them. >> cbs, slate, "time" magazine. >> you can go down the line. there are many. they do it for click bait but if they're going to do it -- that's exactly right. >> do you think that what i'm saying is true that the old model paradigm zingers fed to you by someone else, i don't think it's going to resonate. there's no better debate near the country than ted cruz and he struggled with donald trump. >> the history shows it doesn't

matter who wins the debate, the voters make up their mind on a rare city of issues. donald trump proved wrong from the prir mayprimaries all the w through now. what i would like to see him do in the next debate is cool it down a notch. i thought hillary came across as cool, trump came across as hot. i think she got to him. >> i think that's the best you're going to get. it was not what it was like in the primary. i thought he was disciplined, especially at the end of the debate. austin, what's your take on all of this? >> online polls, that's not what you want to look at. >> they mean nothing, right? >> they're not representative. if you set a box to just keep voting, you can get massive voting in u favor of one candidate. obama has been a beneficiary of

online polling in debates when everyone agreed and the actual polling showed that he had not done well in the debate. i wouldn't convince yourself that donald trump did a great job based on that. >> -- all of which are true that i laid out in the first segment. >> they set a low bar for donald trump and he banged his head on it. you know he didn't win when he had a victory party that he was scheduled to go to and he skipped a victory party. >> he's never had a drink in his life. i don't know if a victory party is ideal for him. >> he organized it. he would do better to tone it down and bring his a game to the deba debate. it was a different venue than the primary debates but he did not do well. >> i disagree wu i would add to things. number one, i wouldn't answer hillary clinton's questions about tax returns until she

gives us our wall street speeches. and he can bring up benghazi, vetting gees, he can bring up saudi arabian run. >> and he forget to bring up the issues that he wants to run. you get in, rebut it very real fast and turn it around on them. he spent two minutes explaining why he was against the iraq war. he should have done it in 15 seconds and then turned it against hillary. that's what he needs to do smarter. >> sean, you are trying to disparage somebody who actually did debate prep and calling hillary clinton robotic. people are saying about donald trump that they think he didn't do his home work and he didn't make an effort. but i disagree. i think it's hard work to make yourself look as bad as he did. >> very clever. >> when she accused him of

sfifisfi stiffing small business -- >> economic policies that you help put together that resulted in 12 million more americans on food stamp, 95 million americans out of the labor force, i don't think it matters that she memorized a quip or a line or an attack why double down on stupid? >> you got to get out more. the sun is still shining during the day. the consumer confidence numbers came outer for american consumers -- >> you ignore all real facts and you say well the gdp -- >> sean -- >> it's not affecting somebody that doesn't have a job that's in poverty and on food stamps. oi know you're a rich professor -- >> you're the rich guy. i'm a teacher. i will trade bank accounts for

you. >> he'll tax it for you. >> he'll have hillary confiscate it. coming up, clinton wasn't asked about the benghazi attack at the debate last night. was she given a pass? later tonight -- >> the african-american community has been let down by our politicians. they talk good around election time like right now and after the election they say see you later. i'll see you in four years. >> donald trump continued his outreach to the african-american community last night. we continue straight ahead.

♪ 3, 2, 1 [whispered 'rocket'] president obama and secretary clinton created a vacuum the way they got out of iraq. because they got out -- they shouldn't have been in. but once they got in, the way they got out was a disaster. and isis was formed.

you started the iran deal. that's another beauty where you have a country that was ready to fall, they were doing so badly, choking on the sanctions and now they're going to be a major power. hillary has experience but it's bad experience. we have made so many bad deals. so she's got experience, that i agree but it's bad bad experience. >> donald trump going of hillary clinton's dismal record during her tenure as secretary of state last night. joining us now, one of the coauthors of "13 hours" mark heist. also with us the author of "the field of fight" lieutenant general mike flynn. both happened to be in the audience last night. i would have liked to have heard a little bit more about benghazi, a little bit about her failure. not one question to me but they wanted to talk about birtherism,

which i thought was ridiculous. what was your reaction in the audience? >> you know, sean, i think it goes to show the bias that was there with the moderator, the lester. you know, they never followed up on any question. donald trump is the only one who brought up anything about the 3 -- 33,000 e-mail. they missed an opportunity to show america the type of lead she's going to be. we have to lock and see if this is the type of person we want who is going to be leading our country that ended up putting people in harm's way for strictly her political gain. and that goes all the way back to 2011. >> general, if you look at the money for the clinton foundation, if you look at the e-mail server scandal, the money they took from saudi arab, vetting refugees, build a wall, not talking about benghazi,

supreme court, they missed a lot of serious issues here last night. >> let's get down to the brass tax, sean. the birther issue was raised and benghazi was not? the birther issue didn't result in four dead americans. so for that not to have come up is unbelievable. so what we have, sean -- and this is the big decision for the american public. i will tell you, millions of americans are jumping on board with donald trump because this is a change election. and donald trump and millions of americans are unbound by the past failures of the last eight years and the startup of that is where hillary clinton was the secretary of state. i mean we're talking about a past that has caused the rise of the islamic state and now we're talking about the islamic state inspired attacks somewhere

around 25 to 30 countries now. we don't know how many. but just unbelievable. the contribution to numerous, numerous failed states as well as, you know, one other aspect i think as well as allowing our military to atrophy. i mean those are the past failures that this election is causing the american public to wake up and say, hey, we don't need this any longer. we don't need this type of past set of failures. and frankly this goes back for 30 years, sean. so this is a big big change election. and frankly, you know, as i looked at -- i was there last night at the debate. i saw donald trump being very presidential. he was sticking to policy. he did not get down into the lows of some of the things that hillary clinton raised. the business about racism and really talking about, you know, stop and frisk. they were so wrong on those issues.

those are the kinds of things that the american public will hear more and more about this week. >> and lester holt himself was wrong about stop and frisk. >> he was totally wrong. >> wrong about iraq and the economy. he got everything wrong >> that policy, that stop and frisk policy is a constitutionally correct policy and it's led to -- i mean, it has led to a lot of lives not being lost. >> the judge was thrown off the case. >> exactly. >> we're running low on time. good to see you both. up next tonight right here on "hannity". >> the african-american community has been let down by our politicians. they talk good around election time like right now and after the election they say see you later. i'll see you in four years. >> donald trump during last night's debate continued to reach out to african-american voters. coming up next tonight on "hannity."

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time like right now and after the election they said see you later, i'll see you in four years. the african-american community -- look, the community within the inner cities has been so badly treated. they've been abused and used in order to get votes by democrat politicians because that's what it is. they've controlled the kmupts for up to 100 years. >> that was donald trump reaching out to african-american voters last night all while pointing out that democrats, including hillary clinton, they have been taking for granted african-americans in their vote for decades. joining us now, larry elder and niger innes. i listened to that, yeah, that's true. failing schools in inner cities, 50% increase f blacks on food stamps, 20% increase black americans out of the labor

force. disproportionately impacted by the democratic party. reaction. >> absolutely. but i wish he would have talked about the 800-pound gorilla in the room. the absence of fathers. policies have been pushed that insen vised women to marry the government. it wasn't you who said this, a kid raised without a dad is five times more likely tore poor, nine times more likely to drop out of school and to times more likely to end up in jail. that was barack obama. what's happened to the black family. the welfare state has destroyed it. i wish donald trump would have take thn audience and explained that to black people and receivered this ridiculous bond that the black people have the democratic party.

you can't take your kid out of a bad underperforming school because of the wedding they have with the teacher's union. a black kid used to be more likely to have a job than a white teenager. but minimum wage has made them not be able to price themselves under the going rate. donald trump should have brought that home. he had a chance to do it and i wish he would do it in the second and third debate. >> niger, if you take the wall, illegal immigrants competing with americans for jobs, 95% of the americans out of the labor force, dand you take the issue f getting rid of common core state education, you can transform not just black america but the entire country. >> absolutely. put top of that an idea that a friend of mine down in florida gave to me. unplug the department of

education and replace it with trump opportunity scholarships. that would blow away the democratic party. >> take the $11,600 per student that we spend for the worst results and give it to the families and let the families decide what schools. >> let the families decide. >> i think the families would decide the skooms that require excellence in discipline, uniform, go to the school, hands on the desk, apple for the teacher. >> trump has said that as he's visited milwaukee, i'm going to promote school choice. if he were to do that with trump opportunity scholarships, it would be amazing. >> that is predicated on a belief that every child is born with innate talent and ability and low and behold there's no telling, you know, the heights that people can reach if they have that foundation of a good

education. >> and it's based on not telling black people that that are victims. 965 people were killed by the police, 250 of those were black, 500 of them were white, just a handful of them involved people who did not have a remember or were not otherwise charging a police officer. by contrast, 400 people were injured by lightning. it is rare for anybody to be killed by the police, let alone an unarmed black people. the democratic party convinced black people that they're victims. it's got to stop. >> does that change this year, niger? >> i think it is going to change this year. what tear nighs the democrats is that trump is resonating in the black community and i think he could get 15% to 20% of the vote. >> total landslide. >> do you agree with that in. >> absolutely agree with that. the number one reason blacks voted for obama was not because he was black but because he was

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. >> he didn't ask her about the e-mails at all. he didn't ask her about her scandals. he didn't ask her about the benghazi teal that she destroyed. he didn't ask her about a lot of things that she should have been asked about. there's no question about it. >>know, i didn't think he did a bad job. >> donald trump on "fox and friends" talking about last night's debate. joining us now, author of the brand new book, author, doug

shown, all right. that is all about obamacare. let's talk about e-mails and didn't talk about benghazi and money to these sharia nations. >> in fairness, donald trump didn't bring it up. >> i thought we talked before the debate, donald trump made it clear 30 years was too long, but there were so many openings for him to say we need change in new direction. radical new approach and talk about corruption. >> you know, i don't disagree with anything you're saying. mercedes, is that a case where maybe, whatever the question is asked he's got to do what hillary did? is that something? >> i think as a moderator are going to bring up tough questions donald trump can't afford to way. he's got to make sure he makes this case about

the fact that there is this lack of transparency coming from hillary clinton. the pay for play activity, the serial pattern of dishonesty. i think this is a lesson learned for donald trump. i think it's going to be critical to move and pivot for focusing on hillary clinton. whatever the focus on donald trump, he's trying to at one campaign said he's guilty of just answering directly. >> yes. that is the truth. when hillary brings up oh, i want your tax returns, you bring up the deleted e-mails and could have said as soon as you he lease these speeches you got paid $250,000 an hour for. >> that is where good preparation comes into play. if what i know, the secretary of state prepared, prepared, prepared and donald, had he had those kinds of response lines we might have had a very different debate.

>> it's very interesting because there seems to be a disconnect between the people. real people. and my take away from this, in all of the primary debates, i doesn't matter. >> here, i think this will not change the under lying poll numbers. not really. i think we'd be maybe a point or two for the secretary but we're in a tie, sean, we're in a tie before and going to be m a tie after the dust settles. >> i wanted donald trump to close the deal. i think it was a learning experience for him. i did feel hillary clinton came across as a mean school principal going to put you in detention. i think for donald trump, what i needs to learn is i call trigger words. if hillary clinton calls you a racist, how should donald trump respond? deplorable. if she says donald trump is hiding something, he needs to be

automatically thinking well, wait a minute, hillary clinton. so i think that is going to be key. >> she used everything she's got. >> yes. >> he's got a lot less. >> she'sñi going to keep using . >> again and again. >> repetition is the key to politics. she knows it and does it well. >> the key is that hillary clinton cannot connect. you're seeing poll numbers quickly shift. i think for donald trump, he performed like he had to perform, next time, he's got to close the deal. >> thank you both. coming up, a very important, kind of predictable question of the day, straight ahead. then i. the only one to combine a safe sleep aid plus the 12 hour pain relieving strength of aleve. now i'm back. aleve pm for a better am.

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left this evening. let not your heart be troubled. we'll be back here tomorrow night. thanks for being with us. o'reilly factor is on. tonight: >> this is a man who has called women pigs, slobs, and dogs. >> i was going to say something. >> please. >> extremely rough to hillary and her family and i said to myself, i can't do it. >> donald trump taking the high road last night but did he lose the debate on points? talking points will answer that question. i think in the end it was something like a draw but i do believe the draw goes to the challenger. >> charles krauthammer sticking up for mr. trump last night. wow. charles will be here to discuss it. >> tell me what hillary said last night that moved