i just don't know what the event is. >> october is the surprise. >> we'll see. >> we've seen this forever, every single election. >> it is october. thank you very much. we'll see you. donald trump under oath, a judge releasing video of the republican presidential candidate getting sworn testimony. all included in a lawsuit that came about in the wake of the comments about mexican immigrants. we've got all the details ahead. this, as mike pence prepares to take on hillary clinton's vp pick tim cakaine in their only debate tuesday night. what they're doing now to prepare. >> hurricane matthew makes its way across the caribbean. our weather center is tracking where this monster storm is headed next.

and thank you for spending your saturday with us. i'm melissa prann. >> nice to be with you at home. i'm leland vittert. welcome to america's election headquarters from washington. this hour, things are relatively quiet on the campaign trail after a brutal week of insults and counterpunches between the presidential candidates, and of course, their surrogates as well. hillary clinton is home in new york with no scheduled events today. donald trump heads to pennsylvania dutch country. peter deucey hot on the trail. hi, peter. >> reporter: hi, leland. this weekend, the trump campaign is working hard to try and narrow hillary clinton's lead with women, which a new fox news poll out last night shows about 20% over trump in a four-way race. 53% to 33%. so the trump campaign has ruled out a new ad starring what many

people see as trump's secret weapon, his daughter. >> he will provide tax credits for child care. paid maternity leave and dependent care savings accounts. this will allow women to support their families and further their careers. >> this all comes just after trump got a lot of attention yesterday for directing his 11.9 million twitter followers. tweets yesterday came before dawn. and trump said that is a reason to vote for him. because, quote, for those people knocking me for tweeting at 3:00 in the morning, at least you know i'll be there awake to answer the call. mr. trump is also now trying to keep alive the possibility that hillary clinton could be prosecuted for some sort of corruption or mishandling of information in the next few months before president obama leaves office.

>> mr. president, will you pledge not to issue a pardon to hillary clinton and her co-conspirators for their many crimes against our country and against society itself. >> reporter: so today trump is going to be here for a rally in manheim, pennsylvania, a few minutes away from amish country. we've spoken to some amish pe l people. they say they are fans of trump. obviously not from what they've seen on tv or on twitter, but because they've seen some billboards that trump supporters put up a few months ago, and the man told us he thinks he's ready to make america great again. a woman told us she just thinks based on this billboard, that donald trump is more trustworthy and honest than hillary clinton. leland? >> big questions about how much of a difference the amish vote

could make, not only in pennsylvania, ohio as well. peter, thanks so much. voters look at a chance to size up mike pence and tim kaine tuesday night in virginia. both will be defending voting records, that has sometimes clashed with positions taken by their running mates. so will there be any knockout punches? michael pope knows tim kaine's record better than most having covered pol for years. thank you both for joining me today. i know we can't expect 84 million voters, but i do want to start with you, ken. because there are more people paying attention than perhaps than in election cycles past, because of the high unfavorability ratings. what can we expect on tuesday?

>> i think mike pence is a talk show host at his core. that's not a putdown. i'm a former broadcaster myself. he knows how to work a room. he knows how to get in and out of a segment. he knows how to wrap things up. he knows how to get to a point. i think he is a very disciplined and cautious communicator. i don't think there will be any home run moments, likely not. i don't think he's going to stick his foot in his mouth either. vice presidential debates tend not to move the meter in elections. i think you're right, monday night left a lot of people scratching their heads on both sides. there are a lot of undecided voters in this election i believe. i think mike pence's job is to stand up, number one, support trump to the extent he can, but number two, position himself for 2020. he's really going to have a national spotlight he's never had before. >> michael, it sounds like we're hearing that he's going to be very prepared. can we expect that from the other side? i mean, when we look ahead of the presidential debate, we saw a lot of pundits lowering the

bar. we saw statements from the rnc, a number of factors, we haven't seen that at all so far. >> well, the bar is set kind of where it is for a vice presidential debate, which is it's not really going to be the main attraction. in terms of kaine, if we look back to his long record in politics, we can learn some things about how he might act in the debate. one thing is a little counterintuitive, which is i would expect him to actually agree with pence every now and then. kaine will find things in pence's record that he can make agreement with. so i would strongly expect that. the other thing is perhaps not quite as counterintuitive, which is i would expect kaine to return to indiana's religious freedom restoration act over and over again. >> right. >> perhaps even changing the subject to bring it back around to that. this is a law that was passed in indiana, pence signed it, and reaction to the hobby lobby decision that allows owners,

like pizza shops or bakeries or flower shops to potentially discriminate against same-sex couples. so i would expect kaine to sort of come around to that again and again as a point of disagreement. >> so you brought up a good point. there's a number of examples where, let's say -- and this applies to both of these candidates, that they've shifted or softened. they've both sifted and softened on ttp. but the same can go for tim kaine. there's been some criticism that he has changed his opinion on taxpayer funded abortion. ken, how do they debate, but then if they have changed topics on that, how do they respond to criticisms? >> well, i think pence is -- i think michael's arrive, the rifra will be a topic during the debate. i think the stephanopoulos moment, if you will, where he was on national television, asked to -- paraphrasing the

question, do you support the civil rights of all americans, and he hedged. i think that's going to be an issue. he can't have that moment on the national stage. he has to be decisive and answer questions. i think michael is right, it will be a civil argument. if mike pence is going to have a good night on tuesday, he's going to emerge as somebody who talks a lot about his record in terms of economic development, job creation, lower taxes, and he's able to shuffle the other things aside. but i think they will be issues. >> you're not necessarily thinking we're going to see fireworks? do you agree with that? >> do i agree with that? >> are you asking me? >> i would agree with that. >> the reason i ask that is these candidates seemed like they were pretty predictable picks to begin with. not necessarily people who were going to shape the vote. is that something we're going to see on -- next week? >> well, you know, i think what we are going to see from kaine is that he will make some

attacks. he might wait to be attacked first, and then respond. but i wouldn't just hold out and wait -- i wouldn't expect kaine to just hold out and wait for an attack of the he might go on the offensive on his own. here's also what i would expect from kaine is that he will know the pence record cold. he'll know everything that pence has done. he will have listened and/or read the transcripts of his time in talk radio. he will go through and see if pence has ever voted for a raise for himself as a public elected official. he will say -- >> right, something personal. >> he will look at pence's voting record when he was in congress. did he miss a lot of votes. so i would expect moments where kaine knows the pence record, and uses that to go after him. >> right. gentlemen, i wish we had more time. the takeaway is we may see a little more fireworks than we think. ken and michael, thank you for joining us. we appreciate it. >> thank you. >> thanks for the opportunity. >> we'll see what happens in that debate.

certainly fallout from this debate this past week. more republicans jumped ship. and endorsed hillary clinton following trump's performance monday night. many of them say her stances might not fit perfectly with their views, but feel trump's personality, combined with a dangerous world, is simply too big a chance to take. one guy who hopes the trend will continue, john stubs, group of the republicans for clinton in 2006. john, appreciate you being here. >> thanks for having me. >> every time we do one of these segments, twitter lights up and says the guy who says he's a republican for hillary isn't really a republican. i'm going to start with that. life-long republican? >> life-long republican. put yard signs for george h.w. bush when i was in high school, worked for jack kemp out of college. >> so those are your bona fides. twitter take that to task as you see fit. let me ask you this. are you upset with your predicament right now?

it doesn't seem like anybody with those kind of credentials would be too happy at least with having to even think about endorsing hillary clinton. >> of course. i think republicans have been upset for a while. more republicans voted against donald trump in the primaries than voted for him. even though he did get a lot of votes from new people joining the primary process. so if you are traditionally a republican, if you grew up under the party of reagan like i did, if you're looking for an optimistic, inclusive party based on empowerment. hillary clinton is the least worst outcome. donald trump is the worst outcome. when you're faced with the worst outcome, pragmatically speaking, you have to look at what your options are. right now, our options, we believe, republican congress with hillary clinton is the best path for stability. >> you talked about the republican congress for hillary clinton. do you worry at all that as more republicans come out for hillary

clinton, which has undoubtedly happened, that you will end up in a situation where there's a chance that congress affects the down ballots so much -- >> do more republicans show up at the polls? the opposite. if the republicans stay home because they're disaffected by trump, there's a greater likelihood that the senate flips to democrats. our effort, and we just launched a get out the vote effort yesterday in north carolina, for senator byrd, is go vote for your republican representative, go vote for your congressmen and your senator and take back the leadership. that leadership can provide an opportunity for republicans to advance republican priorities with secretary clinton. >> you talk about secretary clinton. politico talked about this very issue. moderate republicans, which i would think you would self-describe as a mod ral republican, saying that, i'm quoting now, gone or the references in hillary clinton's speeches to winning over moderate republicans. she has now gone to a base only get out the vote strategy. does that bother you at all that

it's become so much more partisan on her side? you don't get this big umbrella from her? >> i think she's consistently been throwing light on the republican party, and reaching out to republicans. you had more republicans -- >> what has she reached out specifically that you're happy with? >> tim kaine as a selection, is probably the biggest decision she's had to make in this election cycle. that is a very moderate -- that is a republican's kind of democrat. >> republican's kind of democrat. the sort of juxtaposition of a reagan democrat, tim kaine is a republican -- kaine is a republican? i'm trying to figure out how to say that. >> yeah, he's a republican's democrat. if you're looking at -- she could have gone a lot of ways there. i think people thought she might -- >> you're talking about the -- >> the people in her party were upset. it wasn't without risk. >> i have to ask about the polls

when it comes to the issue of gary johnson. we'll look at florida first as it is right now. florida, latest poll hillary clinton 46%, trump 41%, 6% gary johnson. north carolina, the state that you talked about, 45% donald trump, 40% hillary clinton, 6% gary johnson. how worried are you, and are, quote unquote, republicans for hillary about the gary johnson factor? >> very worried. i think most of the people voting for gary johnson in this year's election are doing so out of protest. they don't like donald trump. we get it, he's not our nominee either. they can't get to secretary clinton. >> even the "chicago tribune." >> they can't get to secretary clinton. they're looking at third-party options. when you live in a state like north carolina, your vote is literally worth tens of thousands of times more than a voter in a safe state. it is not an equal system. the electoral college does not make every vote the same. so you could actually flip the election to donald trump, your

worst case scenario, by protesting for gary johnson. gary johnson got less than 1% of the vote in north carolina in 2012. what has he done in four years to move up? >> well, i'm sure that you'll be trying to answer that question, or not answer it, over the next five weeks there in north carolina as you get out the vote program. appreciate it, john. >> thanks for having me. now, team trump. they're going to have a chance to respond later in the show. we're going to hear from trump economic adviser steve moore about not only this issue, but his rather, shall we say contentious interview with bill maher coming up in the next hour. liz? so we still have five weeks and three debates to go until election day. millions of voters in several states are getting a chance to cast their ballots early. in-person voting is open in nine states, including the battleground state of iowa, with hillary clinton campaigned on thursday. while the polls were opening. president obama won iowa in 2008, and 2012. but clinton currently trails

trump by nearly five points. her campaign taking advantage of her stop this week, directing people leaving her rally to nearby polling places. >> in case you can't tell, or haven't heard, there is an election coming up. fox news is your place for all things politics, ahead of the big vice presidential debate. tomorrow, 11:00 a.m., howard kurtz will talk to kelly conway, and brian fallon on media buzz. you don't want to miss that. fox news sunday has an exclusive interview. new jersey governor and trump adviser chris christie. lots to talk about with him, including the train accident in new jersey. of course, keep it here all day tuesday for complete coverage leading up to the vice presidential debate. the battle in virginia. stay with us today. still ahead, congress getting ready to grill the government agency that should have caught wells fargo employees in the act

of opening hundreds of fake accounts in the names of their customers, after taking apart the bank's ceo just this week. >> if the buck stops with you, as you came out here and said, i apologize, the buck stops with me, and you have to also admit that criminal activity was going on in your bank, then you should be fired because it stops with you. >> again, congressman, the board has that power. and my energy moving forward -- we're going to go live to the site of the deadly train crash in hoboken, new jersey. it's a very active scene right now. investigators are just zeroing in on the cause of that disaster. and our own janice dean is tracking one of the most powerful hurricanes in years. janice? >> hi, liz. a lot of questions with matthew. will it come close to the east coast late next week? or move closer to bermuda?

we're going to track it after the break, when america's election headquarters returns. don't go away. ♪ every time i travel, it's the moments that are most rewarding. because you'll never forget them. join marriott rewards and we'll help you find your moments with our diverse collection hotels and resorts around the world. so no matter where you go, you are here.

ugh. heartburn. sorry ma'am. no burning here. try new alka-seltzer heartburn relief gummies. they don't taste chalky and work fast. mmmm. incredible. can i try? she doesn't have heartburn. new alka-seltzer heartburn relief gummies. enjoy the relief. i've never been #1 in anything until i put these babies on. now we're on a winning streak and i'm never taking them off. do i know where i'm going? absolutely. we're going to the playoffs. allstate guarantees your rates won't go up just because of an accident. starting the day you sign up. so get accident forgiveness from allstate. and be better protected from mayhem, like me. it's good to be in, good hands.

the 2016 hurricane season continues with the first storm

to hit category 5 in almost ten years. hurricane matthew, the storm reached category strength last night before dropping down to category 4. still very strong. meteorologist janice dean is watching this storm closely. janice, what can you tell us? >> liz, this is a very strong potentially dangerous system. this is a visible satellite imagery. it's coming up in the next few frames because we rely on the sunlight to see the visible imagery. you can see the eye is very well defined. this is a major system, a major hurricane. it was category 5, overnight last night it weakened a little bit. our strongest in almost a decade. hurricane watch in effect for parts of haiti and ja make a. we're going to watch this very carefully as we go through the next 48 hours, and even into early next week, as it's a slow-moving system. it will move a little bit more to the west? will it move a little bit more to the east? that is going to be crucial in determining whether or not this system is going to impact the

u.s. but for now, we know a very dangerous system for the folks in jamaica. you need to be completing your hurricane plans. haiti, cuba, and the bahamas, as we expect this system to restrengthen as it crosses over cuba and into the bahamas. a lot of uncertainty. my advice to anywhere along the east coast, you need to be paying close attention to the weather forecast and make your hurricane plans now. here's the gfs model. this reliable forecast model is showing a very close brush, or maybe a landfall across the southeastern u.s. thursday and friday. there's hatteras. that's a very strong hurricane right there. the european model also a very reliable forecast model, has this moving a little bit more to the east. and perhaps it will be a problem for bermuda in the days ahead. so that's why we need to be paying close attention. because these two models are

most reliable, and when they're in disagreement, that's concerning. so there you go. there's the gfs coming very close to the southeast mid-atlantic. there's the euro moving towards bermuda. the next couple of days we really need to watch this forecast, and really tailor the forecast to see if it's going to come close to the u.s. but you need to be making your preparations now. liz, back to you. >> well, we'll keep an eye on it, janice. thank you very much. we appreciate it. >> of course. fox news alert. in hoboken, new jersey, the investigation and cleanup continues into thursday's deadly train crash. the commuter train plowed through the station, killing one person, and injuring more than 100 others. laura engle joins us live on the ground. the big question is, why? >> reporter: not yet today, leland, in fact, investigators continue to work through the crash scene here in hoboken,

sifting through the twisted and tangled mess of metal, that spiderweb of wires we've been seeing. that has created, of course, a very tricky set of circumstances. it's going to take some time. that's in ato the collapsed roof that came down in this accident. you've seen the pictures in the video, what it looks like inside. it is an absolute mess. the ntsb said they are focused on obtaining as much information as it can from the crew members who were onboard when this nj transit train came barreling into the station thursday morning, as well as recovering the second data recorder that was in the first and most damaged car in the crash. now, the other data recorder, which we just saw a photo of, was retrieved. >> our objective is, as always, not to just find out what happened, but why it happened. so we can prevent it from happening again. let me reiterate, that this is the fact-gathering phase of the investigation. so we will not be determining

the probable cause on scene. nor will we speculate about what may have caused this accident. >> reporter: we're also still waiting to hear details about a possible interview with the train's engineer, thomas gallagher. he's the 30-year employee with nj transit who was found slumped over the controls after the crash. we've learned he's been treated and released from the hospital and he is said to be cooperating with investigators, and has given blood and urine samples. it's not clear when he will have his official sitdown with the ntsb. the other crew members we've been told have been interviewed. now, the one person who lost her life in this crash, fab yola bittar de kroon is remembered as someone who loved her daughter, her 1-year-old daughter, who she had just dropped off at day care right before this crash. they say she always had a smile on her face as well as being a devoted mother. we have called around to the local hospitals. we have a bit of an update for you. we've learned about a half dozen are still being treated, and up

to possibly five people today will be released from the hospital. we'll xoipt to bring you the latest as it develops here in hoboken. >> quick question, any idea how things will get back on schedule? the tens of thousands of people go through that station every day. >> reporter: right. a lot of people are certainly hopeful here in hoboken. and the surrounding areas. that things will get back to normal for monday. we know they'll be working around the clock. we'll hopefully be able to bring you that kind of an update later today. the ntsb is expected to either have a press conference or press release later this afternoon. hopefully those details will be included there. >> all right. details as they break from laura ingle in hoboken. thanks, laura. liz? coming up after the break, taking aim at a multi-billion dollar bank. taking advantage of its customers and going after regulators, tasked with policing the industry.

we'll speak live with nick mulvany. business smarts doesn't always translate to tech savviness. just find out why donald trump doesn't use e-mail. >> we've figured that out. it took a lot of people to figure that out.

looking sharp, len. who's the lucky lady? i'm going to the bank, to discuss a mortgage. ugh, see, you need a loan, you put on a suit, you go crawling to the bank. this is how i dress to get a mortgage. i just go to lendingtree. i calculate how much home i can afford. i get multiple offers to compare side by side. and the best part is... the banks come crawling to me. everything you need to get a better mortgage. clothing optional. lendingtree. when banks compete, you win. okay! ...awkward.

fox news alert. we see donald trump going off script and living in the moment.

the question is, does that also apply to many aspects of his multi-billion dollar financial dealings? correspondent daren tenney joins us with a deposition and what it shows about trump, the businessman. i know you spent hours going through all these. tell us what you know, garrett. >> there's a lot of interesting things in the deposition that we learn about donald trump, including he doesn't use e-mail, he doesn't take notes and he relies heavily on his children as well as his executives to deal with the fine print of his business dealings. now, the deposition which took place in june is part of a lawsuit by trump's company against a restaurateur who backed out of a lease to open a restaurant in the hotel here in d.c., at the historic old post office. that decision by the renowned chef came in response to these remarks trump made about mexican and immigrants last year in his announcement speech. >> they're sending people that have lots of problems.

and they're bringing those problems with us. they're bringing drugs. they're bringing crime. they're rapists. and some i assume are good people. >> another chef also backed out of a deal to open a restaurant at the hotel. trump responded by suing the pair for breach of contract, seeking damages of more than $10 million. yesterday in response to a number of news organizations request a d.c. court judge order the deposition to be released. trump defends his comments and says, they couldn't have been very harmful because he went on to be a long list of highly respected candidates, including senators and governors. >> because if i said something that was so bad, they wouldn't have had me go through all of these people and win all of these primary races. i'm pretty even in the polls, or close to even in the polls right now. so i was very surprised that he

wanted to get out of the lease. >> there are a few other interesting tidbits we learned from the deposition, including how much the donald trump brand is worth. and according to a remark, it's over $2 billion. that's a lot of zeros. >> good work, garrett. thank you so much for coming in. >> my pleasure. beating up on wall street is always popular in an election year. republicans and democrats found common ground this week, taking shots at banking giant wells fargo. among other things, they're accused of opening new accounts in existing customers' names without their approval, and then charging those customers fines. >> to sit here and have to watch you essentially validate everything that the other side has said about you, and your business and your industry, i don't know, for the last three, four generations, is

extraordinary disappointing to me. the damage that you have done to the market, to your industry far exceeds the damage you've done to your own business. >> strong words from south carolina congressman nick mulvany, to wells fargo ceo john strumpf on thursday. but now some republican lawmakers want answers from the group that is supposed to keep banking customers safe. that group called the consumer financial protection bureau. congressman mulvany joins us now. congressman, we'll get to the government, but first to the issue of wells fargo. are you satisfied that they have now? or do you want to see more happen? >> we want to know exactly what happened already. whether or not they've cleaned up their own house is anybody's guess. the question is, what actually happened to these particular circumstances? why did it go on for so long? why was it not flushed out? no one can convince me, or anybody else who knows anything about organizational behavior,

that folks high up the wells fargo food chain didn't know this was happening. the testimony again and again last week was that nobody of any real significance within the organization got fired. in fact, the ceo is still there. that's stunning to many of us, myself included. so part of our question is, you know, who knew what, and when. because we have to make sure this kind of stuff doesn't happen again. >> that is oftentimes the question, who knew what and when. conceivably there's an organization that's supposed to figure that out within the government, the consumer financial protection bureau run by this fellow, richard cordray, used to be the attorney general in ohio. did they drop the ball on this one? >> i think they were there for years and missed this. and might not have found it at all but for the whistleblower. that was part of the message i tried to deliver last week to my democrat friends, is that we can't rely on regulation to solve all of our problems. you're never going to fully regulate out bad actors. the key is to punish the ones that you find.

right now the punishments are probably not high enough. in fact, the republicans passed a bill about two weeks ago out of the same committee that would increase punishment for this type of behavior. >> should this behavior be criminal? and if so, why isn't it? >> my guess is, part of it probably already is. and some of the discussions we've had in washington is whether or not some folks will go to jail for this. and it's probably -- it's one of the things that should be fully explored. you should fully prosecute these people to the full extent of the law. yeah, it probably should be criminal. it should be criminal to have this benign neglect at the very high levels of the corporate entities. well, i didn't know anything about this, you can't blame me. that's not true. that's not true. it wasn't true in my organization when i was in the private sector and it shouldn't be true of wells fargo. >> there's sort of the idea of the depraved indifference. the executives turn their head. that should not be allowed. back to the issue of richard cordray and the consumer financial protection bureau, what's the answer here? these are the people who are supposed to protect banking

customers, supposed to protect all of us, especially after what happened in 2008 and all of the problems that wells fargo, among other banks, happened? how is this happening again eight years later? >> well, it's just another example of a bureaucracy that has forgotten what it's supposed to be. it's never protected people, it's protected itself, tried to get as much money into its own accounts as it can so it can fund its own existence. i think they spent $4 billion in their office in downtown washington, d.c. it's outrageous. it's one of the few agencies that congress does not appropriate money for. it's that far outside of the accountability of government. >> are you going to be able to get mr. cordray to come testify, though? >> mr. cordray comes when he wants to. we asked him to show up frequently, and he does not. >> wow. >> he's not required to come to congress. it's one of those strange circumstances where congress gave away with the democrats in charge in 2008, gave away this authority. and they're accountable to nobody. >> accountable to nobody, not

even congress. if you want to figure out what's going wrong there. real quickly, though, of that money that they spent, the $4 billion, that's all of our money, that's taxpayer money that funds them, right? >> well, they get money from the federal reserve. and then they get to keep some of the money they collect from fees and fines and so forth. >> congressman, leave it there. thanks, sir. come back and talk to us if richard shows up. >> thanks. >> liz? coming up, chicken nuggets, waffle fries, and a side of election year controversy. why one political group is calling foul at a restaurant. in vermont, voters like their politicians loud and passionate, but they've never seen a candidate quite like this. >> i'm a gun toter. my mother's name is hunt. all the hunts live in southern vermont. what do we do? we hunt. so, yeah, i'm not afraid of killing things. i'm about as conservative as

they come. boost

it's about moving forward not back. it's looking up not down. it's feeling up thinking up

living up. it's being in motion... in body in spirit in the now. boost. it's not just nutrition, it's intelligent nutrition. with 26 vitamins and minerals and 10 grams of protein. all in 3 delicious flavors. it's choosing to go in one direction... up. boost. be up for it. i'm claudine and i quit smoking with chantix. smoking's a monkey on my back. it was, it was always controlling your time, your actions, your money. it had me. it had me. i would not be a non-smoker today if it wasn't for chantix. along with support, chantix (varenicline) is proven to help people quit smoking. chantix reduced my urge to smoke some people had changes in behavior, thinking or mood, hostility, agitation, depressed mood and suicidal thoughts or actions while taking or after stopping chantix. some had seizures while taking chantix. if you have any of these, stop chantix and call your doctor right away. tell your doctor about any history of mental health problems, which could get worse or of seizures. don't take chantix if you've had a serious allergic or skin reaction to it. if you have these,

stop chantix and call your doctor right away as some can be life-threatening. tell your doctor if you have heart or blood vessel problems, or develop new or worse symptoms. get medical help right away if you have symptoms of a heart attack or stroke. decrease alcohol use while taking chantix. use caution when driving or operating machinery. most common side effect is nausea. it's me in control now. ask your doctor if chantix is right for you. sprint? i'm hearing good things about the network. all the networks are great now. we're talking within a 1% difference in reliability of each other. and, sprint saves you 50%

on most current national carrier rates. save money on your phone bill, invest it in your small business. wouldn't you love more customers? i would definitely love some new customers. sprint will help you add customers and cut your costs. switch your business to sprint and save 50% on most current verizon, at&t and t-mobile rates. don't let a 1% difference cost you twice as much. whoooo! for people with hearing loss, visit sprintrelay.com. holding on to the white house isn't the only concern for democrats this november. of the 12 governor seats up for grabs, democrats are defending eight of them. nationwide, the balance of power is decidedly in the gop's favor, 31-18. and there is a possibility of another gop pickup in bernie sanders home state of vermont. that's where there's a tough contest to replace retiring democrat peter shumlen. >> new jobs, new -- >> you're going on a rant right now.

that has nothing to do with the topic. >> pretty tense. the economy, health care, gun rights and abortion are some of the very hot topics at a gubernatorial debate this week. it was moderated by mark johnson, senior editor with digger. he joins us now from south burlington. thank you so much for joining us, mark. >> you bet. >> i want to take a broad look, i want to take a step back. what can you tell me about this particular governor's race and why we could possibly see for the first time in decades a red governor? >> well, here in vermont, the republican that's running is a popular lieutenant governor. he served three terms now. in addition to that, he is a native of vermont. a longtime stock car driver. the winningest driver at thunder road, which is a popular racetrack here. so he's got that real common man

appeal that made him successful. he's the only republican statewide office holder of the major offices here in vermont. >> okay. i want to get down to some of the issues. some of the issues that vermont voters are looking at are issues that people across the nation are looking at. i know in your particular city, you just accepted 100 refugees from syria and iraq. in proportion, that's a lot of people that are entering your city. what was the candidates' response to that issue? did they agree or disagree? >> they did split on that. the democrat, a former transportation secretary, won a three-way primary, very much in support of the program, noting that she in fact herself has had refugees living in her own home. the republican, phil scott, was a little bit more lukewarm on it, concerned about some of the security issues. expressing support for it, while also raising questions at the same time.

some people felt that he was trying to have it a bit -- have it both ways. >> right. >> another couple of big issues, we've got like many states huge problems with our health care -- >> i was going to ask you that, too. vermont spent $200 million to set up that website. if i'm not mistaken, they're looking at joining the federal exchange which would be an additional $20 million. that's a ton of money. and what are voters looking for in these two candidates? >> well, on that issue, you've got the republican who wants to join the federal exchange, or maybe join another state. and the democrat really wants to fix the current one. >> what do voters want? >> it's a case -- well, that's a good question. because a lot of people feel it's throwing good money after bad. on the other hand, all this money has been invested. and people don't want to see that go to waste either. that's a tough one. >> okay. >> another one is, you've got this huge opiate addiction problem, which many rural states have, too. >> we heard them address that in the debate as well.

everybody has a different idea of how they could find a solution. i do want to bring in a little bit of a wild card, forgive my baseball pun, but he prides himself on his baseball career, lee. we can put a full screen of him up on your screen. he's been a very eccentric character. one perhaps who wouldn't necessarily have a lot of influence in a normal election cycle. but if you look at vermont in particular, look at bernie sanders' influence in the presidential race. what type of impact is he having on this race? >> i wouldn't really make a comparison between bernie sanders and bill lee. bill lee is not really taking this race seriously. he's made a couple of token appearances at debates. this is really, i think, more about him publicizing some of his own works. he's really not issued any statements on issues. his real role in this race has been, the republican has refused to have debates unless bill lee

is invited. that's become an issue in and of itself. >> very interesting. mark, thank you so much for joining us. of course, if we do see -- if we see phil there, in this race, we hope to have you back to break it down further. thank you so much. we appreciate it. >> sure. you bet. we'll be right back with more news after the break. stay with us. ugh. heartburn. sorry ma'am. no burning here. try new alka-seltzer heartburn relief gummies. they don't taste chalky and work fast. mmmm. incredible. can i try? she doesn't have heartburn. new alka-seltzer heartburn relief gummies. enjoy the relief.

members of a california community will be gathering to remember an unarmed african-american man shot by police, an innings depth that prompted a fourth straight night of protest. alicia kuhn yeacuna has more. >> just a warning to parents out there on this saturday morning who may want to consider who else is in the room as we show this. el cajon police are investigating tuesday's shooting. they're still collecting evidence, but under mounting public pressure, the police chief decided to release cell phone and surveillance video. here is the cell phone.

[ gunshots ] [ screaming ]. >> here is the same moment from a northbound restaurant surveillance camera when alfred al la olango was approached by police. when confronted by police, they say he pulled something and pointed at them in a shooter's stance. it was an electronic cigarette, not a gun. it prompted four days of protests. >> we came to th decision based on our collective concern for the public safety. we're aware of the impact and the community of el cajon as a result of the aggression from some demonstrators that has led to criminal activity. businesses are closing, schools are releasing students prematurely. some schools sponsored sports event are either been moved or

canceled. all these played a part in the decision or discussion i had with mayor wells and the community to release the video. >> the protests have been violent at times. people in the crowd threw glass bottles at police and bricks an rocks. several have been arrested as the family of the man killed calls for peaceful demonstrations. >> alicia, thank you so much. still ahead, marijuana on the ballot. voters in mine states have the power to legalize it or keep it ban ed for as long as i can. new patented ensure enlive has hmb plus 20 grams of protein to help rebuild muscle. for the strength and energy to do what you love. new ensure enlive. always be you.

>> some of the other activities, they say they have seen billboards that were put up by some trump supporters over the summer and that these billboards led them to believe it's time to make america great again and they think trump is more honest than hillary clinton. >> interesting.

peter ducey reporting live. thank you so much, peter. hillary clinton is off the campaign trail today, but still looking to build on momentum gained from trump's missteps coming out of monday's debate. she hopes former rival bernie sanders will help drive millennials to the polls. rich headson. >> reporter: what we have seen is an attempt to try to convince millennials to show up to the polls and vote for her and try to offer a positive campaign message something she's for and peter just alluded to, it's talk of a sex tape, to back that up a little bit. this goes back to monday night during the debate when hillary clinton brought up miss universe alicia machado. back in the '90s and criticized her for the conduct as a bad miss universe because she in part gained too much weight.

trump continued criticizing her this week and an overnight tweet in which he called her disgusting and then urged her followers to check out her sex tape. machado appeared in a venezuelan. a video from 2000 showing donald trump in which he makes a cameo in a playboy video in that cameo, trump and everyone else in that portion have all their clothes on but the same can't be said for the rest of the campaign video. as the campaign bills clinton as trying to push more of a positive message in florida yesterday, she did knock donald

trump for the late night tweet against machado. >> who gets. >> reporter: clinton finished the day yesterday in florida, fund raising in miami beach and now back in westchester county here in new york. >> all right. in westchester today. we heard for a long time that hillary has had a real problem with enthusiasm as it relates to millennials, young voters, 18 to 29, 18 to 34. is bernie sanders going to help with that going forward? >> reporter: that's the plan here. bernie sanders made a campaign appearance on wednesday with hillary clinton, the university of new hampshire where they pushed clinton's plan to

essentially offer free college tuition for those who earn less than $125,000 a year who come from families who earn less than that at state universities and colleges. they're deploying bernie sanders again next week and he'll be in iowa at three different events for hillary clinton. and that's a state where he narrowly lost the iowa caucuses to hillary clinton. in campaigning for that, he had large enthusiastic crowds there and a swing state where she finds herself behind at least in the real clear politics average down about five percentage points or so to donald trump there and mentioned the issues with millennials. a recent bloomberg poll shows in a four-way race younger than 35 years of age, only has 4 percentage point lead over donald trump. leland? >> we know president obama's numbers were so much higher in 2008 and 2012. rich edison live in chappaqua, new york, thanks, rich.

>> vice presidential nominees tim kaine and mike pence are off the campaign trail this weekend. both hunkered down prepping for the first and only debate. historically, the vice presidential debate hasn't had much of an impact on the race overall, but with the pair of highly unpopular candidates at the top of the tickets, voters may be looking towards the number twos. joining me now for a fair and balanced debate, brian hook is the former advisor to the presidential campaign and joe at the group. thank you both for joining me. i want to start with you, brian. i want to put up a poll. the brand new fox news polling. the two-way preference, now polling at 49% and donald trump at 44%. in your experience because i know you worked with the romney campaign, is it an advantage to be an underdog ahead of the next two debates? >> in some ways, it is.

and i think since looking at the fox news poll, it was very clear that voters thought that she won. it was a fairly lopsided result. and i think, i worked on mitt romney's debate prep extensively. we started preparing for that months ahead and i think the key lesson for the trump folks is failing to prepare is preparing to fail. they've got to take it seriously. we started months before we got to the first debate. she obviously came prepared for her debate. i think it showed. and you can't take debate prep seriously enough. >> i want to toss this question to you. she did appear prepared but did she perhaps, could she rest a little bit or relax on laurels or prepare for the next two? >> clintons have been in the public life for so long. i don't think they underestimate anything that's coming down the track towards them. the good news here for the trump campaign is that the bar is now,

as long as his head doesn't seem to explode on tv, he'll be viewed as a winner in the second debate. his performance has been resounding, that it's just poor and it was awful and hillary looked good. she has good stature and stamina, hit her points, a lot of zingers. and he just seemed to fall apart. so if there's anything good coming out of this first debate, the bar is so low, he doesn't need to do anything to step over it. just needs to not really, really mess up or take the bait again. and they are prepping more lures and bait out there that he'll trip over again. >> okay. you said take the bait. i want to put up one more fox news poll. this was fairly interesting. has temperament to serve effectively as president? we see with the most recent poll, polling at 67% and donald at 37%. so brian, what does he need to do ahead of this next debate to say, listen, i do have the

temperament and i'll challenge a little bit because there are points where his pundits said he did use restraint. do you agree with that, brian? >> i think looking at the numbers on temperament, i think what the voters are saying there on temperament to donald trump is saying, show me, don't tell me. that's going to be his challenge. it's not enough to say i've got a better temperament but it's something you earn over a period of time and doing 3:00 a.m. tweet storms doesn't help that. so i think that when he's talking about voters and the concerns of voters, he does well. when he talks about himself and lets hillary get under his skin, he does poorly and so i think that's the other big takeaway from the last debate. talk about voters. don't talk about yourself. >> when you talk about voters, you're talking about a motivation, which sort of brings me to the next poll and i want to pose this question to joe. when you look at this particular poll, i want to get your reaction because i'm not sure if you were surprised or not. what's motivating voters in this election cycle?

57% say fear for the other candidate winning the election. what's your takeaway from that? that's jarring. >> if you go back to the lead talking about the vice presidential debate, not many are happy with the two options. it's more of an anti-opponent vote than a pro your candidate vote. the enthusiasm is so mixed on all of this. what you're really looking at here underneath all of these enthusiasm questions and motivation question, there have been two big driving things. the sphere of donald trump being president and his temperament and dishonesty that has been tagged to hillary for so long. this poll actually asks the dishonesty question again and now donald trump is more dishonest than hillary clinton. now, that poses a problem. so when we look at the motivations, it's what are these campaigns using to motivate their voters and sway the undecideds in the middle and what's working for donald trump has completely flipped course.

>> and many people will say, you do need to shift course when you're running a primary campaign rather than a general election campaign. those are two different things. but we heard specifically saying anti-opponent vote. how do you win an anti-opponent vote especially when you're 50 some odd days away from the election? >> i think you need brilliance on the basics. you've got to get at what works and he was obviously able to dial in a frequency and voters in the primary to win a general election, you've got to broaden your appeal. you can't go narrow and deep. you need to go sort of widen and broaden your base. and he's got 40 days left to do that. over the last week since the debate, he's been kind of going narrow and deep and focusing on beauty pageants, which is not a winning formula. >> we have 20 seconds left. >> i couldn't agree more. general elections. >> i'm not sure we want you guys to agree. >> but when you look at the

general election, we talk about large, there are tons of fissures to deal with. basically, his support is all white and all republican and when we look at diversity groups and the gender gap, the gender gap after this debate exploded for hillary clinton. and the biggest problem compared to when romney was running four years ago, there's states voting right now and the early votes in these states are just increasing. there's more participation. which is great for our democracy, but also means a lot of people locked in their votes this week and donald trump could have paid a price given his performance. >> you're right. >> they're going straight to the polls. you're right, it's changed. joe and brian, thank you so much for joining us. i'll appreciate it. we'll have you back soon. speaking of voting as we count down kansas officials trying to impose proof of citizenship requirements for those wanting to register.

federal appeals court last night ordered the state to register as many as 50,000 people in the coming weeks. the judges concluded a federal law designed to make it easier to register at local dmv offices, override the kansas safeguards which officials say are designed to prevent voter fraud. international news, turning the the humanitarian crisis in syria and whether the white house has done enough to stop the violence. a shocking level of frustration from u.s. secretary of state john kerry caught on tape directed at both russia and those within the obama administration. kitty logan joins us more with that. what's the latest on this? >> reporter: well, the diplomatic war of words over syria continues between the u.s. and russia with both sides blaming each other for the's fire breaking down. what we're seeing the day is a major offensive by the syrian

army still on going in the city of aleppo and also russian jets involved in air strikes causing extensive damage. a hospital was hit for a second time. trump has very quick to condemn the bombing calling it a war crime. the u.n. saying there's less than 30 doctors in the city. it's pleading for a halt in the violence to allow aid and medical workers in. the u.s. hasn't quite given up on diplomacy. we understand secretary kerry and russian foreign minister sergey lavrov spoke by phone on friday to discussion the situation in syria. today, russia raised the rhetoric once again criticizing the u.s. over its targeting and giving a very clear warning, speaking of terrible consequences if u.s. air strikes would ever hit syrian government forces. now, the u.s. says both russia

and assad forces have ignored the latest cease-fire. of course, russia joined in the fight in syria a year ago and tipped the balance of the war in the favor of president assad. but opposition monitoring groups say russian air strikes may have killed thousands of civilians. the world health organization says over 330 people have died in the last couple of weeks from bombing in aleppo and a third of those casualties are children. it seems, elizabeth, very unlikely that a cease-fire could be reestablished, especially given the current diplomatic climate between the key players. >> it's hard to think of anymore consequences or consequences getting worse when you see children being pulled from the rubble. kitty logan, thank you very much. we appreciate it. coming up, live pictures right now of the satellite view of hurricane matthew as it churns up trouble in the caribbean. we'll tell you if it's going to hit the united states coming up. and the clinton campaign,

backtracking. chelsea's comments on marijuana, what may irk some voters. and what may bring more voters to the polls? nine states are weighing new marijuana laws. what both sides of the debate want coming up. >> legalize marijuana in massachusetts this year, 60 days from now in november. you can do it! >> the target is children. the target is not adults. it's very similar to candy bars and the names are similar. i get concerned about the devastation that edibles can do.

my insurance rates are probably gonna double. but dad, you've got... ...allstate. with accident forgiveness they guarantee your rates won't go up st because of an accident. smart kid. indeed. it's good to be in, good hands. is depression more than sadness? ♪ it's a tangle of multiple symptoms. ♪ ♪ trintellix (vortioxetine) is a prescription medicine for depression. trintellix may start to untangle or help improve the multiple symptoms of depression. for me, trintellix made a difference. tell your healthcare professional right away if your depression worsens, or you have unusual changes in mood, behavior or thoughts of suicide.

antidepressants can increase these in children, teens, and young adults. trintellix has not been studied in children. do not take with maois. tell your healthcare professional about your medications, including migraine, psychiatric and depression medications to avoid a potentially fe-threatening condition. increased risk of bleeding or bruising may occur especially if taken with nsaid pain relievers, aspirin, or blood thinners. manic episodes or vision problems may occur in some people. may cause low sodium levels. the most common side effects are nausea, constipation and vomiting. trintellix did not have significant impact on weight. ask your healthcare professional if trintellix could make a difference for you.

starting today it is legal to buy pot for recreational use in oregon, almost two years after oregon voters cast ballots legalizing recreational marijuana, the first dozen shops licensed to sell it are now open for business. state regulators have licensed dozens of recreational producers and testing labs to stock the shelves. medical marijuana stores in oregon opened last year. >> pot became an issue for the clinton campaign this week out on the trail. it wasn't bill who had his own famous marijuana moment back in

1992 while courting young voters. chelsea clinton said new evidence suggests marijuana could fatally interact with other drugs. marijuana advocates jumped on her comments forcing the clinton company to walk them back saying chelsea, quote, misspoke. marijuana just isn't an issue for the candidates. it is actually on the ballot in nine separate states. four states will ask voters if marijuana should be legalized for medical use, and five other states have provisions about legalized recreational use as well. here for a fair and balanced discussion on the issue, keith strop, founder and legal counsel for normal, david evans from the drug free america foundation, founder of drug testing law and technology. appreciate you guys being here. thank you. >> thank you for having us. >> keith, i'll start with you all since you are the ones that want to change the law here.

is this a moral argument or a legal argument in these nine states? >> i think it's essentially a criminal justice reform issue. we still arrest more than 600,000 americans every year in this country on marijuana charges. 90% of those are possession only. we're needlessly destroying the lives and careers of millions of americans for no good reason. i think the issue is a criminal justice reform issue. >> david, speaking of criminal justice reform, something the white house has talked a lot about and certainly we've seen our police departments overtaxed as the murder rate sky rockets in place like st. louis where i grew up. is there a point to be made that police officers have more important things to deal with than whether a couple of kids are smoking joints behind the school? >> the narrative from the marijuana industry that marijuana arrests are a big problem pour the criminal justice system is not accurate. i'm a criminal defense attorney.

i have been for 42 years. usually when somebody is arrested for marijuana possession, they've been arrested for something else, dui, assault, theft, that kind of thing. when they search them, they find marijuana on them. so it's usually incident to another arrest. most states have provisions like new jersey where i'm from where, if you get picked up with a small amount of marijuana, you can get what's called a conditional discharge. if you complete the program, you wind up with no criminal record. it's really not true that there are these thousands of people no prisons. if you look at the fbi crime reports, less than 1% of the people in state and federal prisons are there for marijuana possession. they're there for trafficking marijuana. for example, in the federal prison, the average amount that somebody is putting -- >> but any of these laws in the nine states that either are going to normalize lies as it

relates to making it legal for recreational use as it is in colorado or washington state or add a medical marijuana provision, any of those laws would keep the major trafficking laws around. i'm unclear how these two relate. >> keith's argument is the minor possess sores, the people with small amounts of marijuana are having their lives ruined by possession of small amounts of marijuana. that's not true. >> keith, isn't part of the argument, also, that those laws are applied in an unfair manner racially. for example, nationwide blacks smoke marijuana and hispanics smoke marijuana at the same rates at whites yet blacks and hispanics are arrested a minimum of four times as frequently. yes, it's true in some of the major cities they've gotten less harsh on how they treat marijuana smokers if you're

white and middle class. if you're a minority, they don't. >> keith is aware of a study from the colorado department of public city, since legalization, arrests of blacks an hispanics increased sharply. if there's racism involved, you deal with the racism, not make a drug legal that's harmful, especially to young people. >> the central question here. is this an issue about laws being poorly enforced that we already have, or is this an issue of people have an inherent right to use marijuana, especially adults, as they have a right to use alcohol ap tobacco, especially knowing how dangerous tobacco is for your health. what's the argument here? >> when we started normal in 1970, the gallup polling group just asked first time how many americans favored legalizing marijuana. it was only 12%.

today 55% to 61%, depending on which polls you look at, they've reached a conclusion that marijuana prohibition causes more harm than the use of the drug itself. we do not want the government coming into our house to know what books we read, what music we listen to, how we conduct ourselves in the bedroom or whether we smoke marijuana or drink alcohol when we relax in the evening. it is simply none of their business. >> david, why is -- >> this argument is about the creation of a big marijuana industry just like big tobacco. i don't believe anything that the marijuana industry tells me just like i don't believe anything the tobacco industry tells me. >> david, i'm not with the industry. i'm with a consumer group. >> yes, you are. >> i speak for normal and normal represents marijuana consumers. >> ygentlemen -- >> the marijuana industry is

financing this. you know fully well that's the case. they'll be aiming their advertising at children, selling marijuana gummy bears. >> david, get ready. >> gentlemen, now that you're both talking -- now that you're both talking, i don't have to give either one of you the last word. we'll leave it there. appreciate you guys coming on. thanks so much. liz? coming up after the break, donald trump advisers will be joining us on how the republican presidential candidate is preparing for the next debate and reacts to clinton coming up.

i'm jamie foxx for verizon. in the nation's largest independent study by rootmetrics, again, verizon is the number one network. hi, i'm jamie foxx for sprint. and i'm jamie foxx for t-mobile. (both) and we're just as good. really? only verizon was ranked number one nationally in data, reliability, text and call and speed.

yeah. and you're gonna fist pump to that? get out of my sight. (announcer vo) unlimited isn't a good deal if it's on a cutrate network. switch now and get our best deal. 20 gigs and four lines for only 160. all on america's best network.

this is todd hardy. a fitness buff, youth baseball coach-and lung cancer patient. the day i got the diagnosis, i was just shocked. the surgeon in dallas said i needed to have the top left lobe of my lung removed. i wanted to know what my other options were. and i found that at cancer treatment centers of america.

at ctca, our experts examine a variety of therapies, treatments and technologies to identify a plan specifically for each patient. my doctor understood that who i am was just as important as what cancer i had. we talked about options. my doctor told me about a robotic surgery that was less invasive. we have excellent technology that allow us to perform very specialized procedures for patients who have lung disease. at ctca, it's all about what you can do. i feel fantastic now. exploring treatment options is at the heart of how we fight cancer. the evolution of cancer care is here. learn more about our treatment options at cancercenter.com/lung. appointments available now. 61% of likely voters believe hillary clinton won the first debate. pundits across the board have

agreed that donald trump's strongest moments monday night were early on when he discussed trade and the economy. a designer of that policy, steve moore, fox news contributor and energy and economic policy adviser to the trump campaign. steve, nice to see you from the swing state of colorado. >> happy to be here. by the way, i never inhale. >> glad you cleared that up from the last segment. in denver you never know what happens. what stays in denver -- what happens in denver stays in denver. speaking of situations you've been in, i want to play this clip from last night and get your thoughts. >> i just have one question for you, steve, because i know you're a trump supporter. have you lost your god [ bleep ] mind. he is just saying check out this

sex tape. you really think this person should be the president of the united states? >> steve moore on bill maher last night. >> that was painful. me, sean penn and three other liberals in the audience. about the debate, i agree. i thought the first 30 minutes on the economy, there was no question that donald trump won that part of the debate. he talked about bringing jobs back, cutting taxes, better trade deals. hillary was on the defensive the whole time. he made it very simple to the american voter. he said, i want to cut taxes to grow the economy. hillary wants to raise taxes to grow the government. what i want to see in the next debate, leland, is for donald trump to really stan on that theme. i want to take away his twitter account, not talk about miss universe.

i want him to talk about jobs and the economy and terrorism. if he does that, that's how he wins. >> i think you are one of many of his advisers that want to take away his twitter account. i've heard that from a number of people inside the campaign. we had a fellow on last hour named john stubs, he likes all the things you've talked about in terms of tax policy and trade policy. this is what he said about a donald trump presidency. >> hillary clinton is the least-worst outcome. donald trump is the worst outcome. when you're faced with the worst outcome, pragmatically speaking, you have to look at what your options are. right now our options we believe republican congress with hillary is the best path for stability. >> why is he wrong? >> well, i think a couple things. i don't respect republicans who say they're going to vote for hillary clinton. i just don't get the logic of that. the number one reason, as every conservative knows, why you have

to vote for donald trump is because the supreme court is going to have two or three new appointments. if hillary clinton puts three more liberals on the court, the conservatives will lose power of the court for 20 or 30 years. more importantly, our economic agenda, every poll for the last six years has shown the economy and jobs are the two biggest issues for the american people. you compare what we want to do and what she wants to do down the line. incidentally, leland, you reminded me of another thing. you know what word never came up -- i don't think it ever came up in the debate -- baem obamacare. this is like the hindenburg of health care plans and we have to get donald trump to talk about that over and over again. i live in virginia. my premiums are going up 15% next year and that's less than most states. >> places like nashville, tennessee, oklahoma city, huge increas increases. one thing we heard in the debate

which related to economics, i don't know the last time it came up, was talking about the federal reserve, that janet yellen is keeping rates aftfirmy low. is donald trump doubling down on the idea that the fed is in some way trying to politically support the president? >> i don't think there's any question that the fed has been political. it's a political institution. we are going to get rid of janet yellen as the fed chairman when donald trump becomes president. how about somebody like steve forbes to run the fed? wouldn't that be an awesome thing. one thing to taxes, if i could, i don't think donald trump adequately addressed the issue of trickle-down economics. what i want to do in the next debate is hillary, we did this unin the 1960s under kennedy we had a boone. when we raises taxes -- >> you can also say we had a

boom under bill clinton in terms he cut the capital gains tax. >> steve, you'll understand this from being in television. hard wrap. i got the run. >> see you later, bye. a battle for the senate and it could come down to indiana. democrat evan bayh hopes to win back his seat. republicans are certainly putting up a fight. we'll talk to republican canned dad ty young right after the break.

when you've been making delicious natural cheese for over 100 years like kraft has, you learn a lot about people's tastes. honey, what do you want for dinner tonight? oh whatever you're making. triple cheddar stuffed sliders. sold!

upgrade your phone system and learn how you could save at vonage.com/business

you're not a firefighter, if you don't fight fires. or a coach, if you don't coach. and you can't be our leader, if you don't lead. our next president needs to take action on social security, or future generations could lose up to $10,000 a year. we're working hard, what about you? hey candidates, do your jobs. keep social security strong.

just two years after winning control of the senate for the first time since 2007, republicans run the risk of losing the upper chamber in november. 34 soots are up for grabs, republicans must defend 24 of those including the most competitive seats such as indiana. republican congressman todd young is running a tight race

against evan bayh, a democrat, who previously held the seat for 12 years and also served as indiana governor. congressman young joins us from indianapolis. in full disclosure, we invited senator bayh on the program. he's unable to join us today. we'll keep this segment as fair and balanced as possible. if you rewind back to july, there was a gaping lead between you two, and now we've seen those polls get tighter. i want to ask you, do you attribute that to you being an outsider? >> actually i think it's the fact that my message is one that is resonating with hoosiers. hoosiers understand that washington is broken. we need solution-oriented people prepared to work in a bipartisan way to fix washington. we need to make sure every hoosier has access to a quality ed cakes that leads to a good paying job and ultimately a meaningful career in places like indiana. the other thing we need to focus on is keeping america safe and secure. as a u.s. marine, i feel like i

have some value to add in this area. it's really the message more than anything else. >> okay. i want to talk about news making headlines. senator bayh has been hitting you on federal assistance to carrier employees, that's the air conditioning manufacturer that is leaving your state, going to mexico. like i said, to be fair and balanced, i want to put up a statement. he wrote in part, congressman todd young wants to help companies but leave workers in the lurch. it says a lot about congressman young's priority when he opposed this critical program for hoosiers who lost their jobs to mexico but supported tax breaks for companies like carrier who shift hoosier jobs overseas. what's your response to that, sir? >> it's unfortunate that evan bayh is exploiting this situation for political gain. i feel for these carrier workers and their families. clearly, the obama-clinton policies have failed them. what really led to job losses here in the state of indiana

among carrier employees is the undue regulatory burden foisted upon their economy bylaws like obamacare. we wouldn't have obamacare if not for are for evan bayh's vote. i want to replace it that with bipartisan law that brings down health care costs. the other thing driving some of carrier's challenges, we have the highest corporate tax rate in the industrialized world. if we have hillary clinton as our next president, god forbid, an evan bayh rubber stamping that clinton agenda, we know very well tax rates will certainly go up, not down. that's not an environment conducive to job creation unfortunately. >> i want to elaborate on a couple points you made. job loss and the tax rate. specifically evan bayh has come out against some trade deals. what are you telling voters? if you look at some statistics, in the state of indiana, 17% of

the job force is manufacturing. that's almost 20,000 jobs. that's a huge number of employment there. what are you telling voters when it comes to whether or not you support any of these trade deals? >> i try not to make political issues where they don't exist. evan bayh has consistently supported opening up foreign markets. for whatever reason, he no longer supports that indiana agriculture producers and manufacturers have access to 95% of the world's consumers which are outside of the united states. i do not support the transpacific partnership. there are a number of provisions within that agreement that i find unacceptable, but with that said, if we want to make sure we have good auto worker jobs, want to make sure indiana remains the largest manufacturing state in the country, we need to make sure that we open up those foreign markets. we also need to make sure in today's era of global supply chain, that we're not taxing at

every level of production our different manufactured goods. i think evan bayh used to understand that. for whatever reason he's changed his policy. i also, it's important, want to add i'm for strong trade enforcement. i've done a number of things during my short time in congress to emphasize, supporting changing ways we support trade deals. we can do better on that front. >> congressman, i certainly wish we had more time. it's safe to say every senate seat matters, yours in particular. there's a lot of people watching your race. we'll look for you on the debate on october 18th. thank you very much for joining us today, sir. good luck on the trail. >> thanks so much. in the wake of donald trump's shaky debate debut, hillary clinton starts to expand her lead according to a new fox news poll. we're revealing the latest in the roller coaster for an election. in the heart of texas, an annual fall tradition kicks off.

we'll bring it to you. ♪ guess what guys, i switched to sprint. sprint? i'm hearing good things about the network. all the networks are great now. we're talking within a 1% difference in reliability of each other. and, sprint saves you 50% on most current national carrier rates. save money on your phone bill, invest it in your small business. wouldn't you love more customers? i would definitely love some new customers. sprint will help you add customers and cut your costs. switch your business to sprint and save 50% on most current verizon, at&t and t-mobile rates. don't let a 1% difference cost you twice as much. whoooo! for people with hearing loss, visit sprintrelay.com. ugh. heartburn. sorry ma'am. no burning here. try new alka-seltzer heartburn relief gummies. they don't taste chalky and work fast. mmmm. incredible. can i try? she doesn't have heartburn. new alka-seltzer heartburn relief gummies. enjoy the relief.

for the best deals on electronics, travel, even shoes. so why not loans? visit lendingtree.com today and get up to five free loan offers from competing lenders in under two minutes. then pick the best deal on mortgage loans, auto loans, personal loans, and a whole lot more. if you choose a loan, the lender pays us. that's how lendingtree® is completely free for you. and it's so easy you can do it right from your phone, right now. lendingtree®. when banks compete, you win.

the texas state fair is under way. its annual rite of passage and

greeting fun loving texans at the fair is big tex. this 55-foot tall statue looms over the fair until late october. if you're wondering how many gallons that is, nearly 100 gallons. >> everything is bigger in texas. >> i guess so. back to campaign 2016. who knew chick-fil-a could become an into gral part of the election. nine chick-fil-a locations in pinellas county florida, near tampa, home to vetter registration efforts. the local stonewall efforts say the county's drive appeals only to republicans, said it was the conservative equivalent of a voter registration drive at planned parenthood. the pinellas county supervisors of elections say those are just

nine of 350 voter registration locations. >> i wonder how this is going to check out with officials in pinellas county. >> you have to wonder if everyone wants to get chick-fil-a. >> what if you're registered -- >> i'll register again, no problem. in chicago, vote early and often. in pinellas county, early and often. >> and register early and often. after the break, more than just an autograph. how one celebrity helps out an adoring fan. >> it validated what i already knew about the guy, always good with the fans, always been good with kids. he's a very nice and down-to-earth person. it was an awesome experience. diabetes can be a daily struggle, even if you're trying your best. along with diet and exercise, once-daily toujeo® may help you control your blood sugar. get into a daily groove. ♪ let's groove tonight. ♪ share the spice of life.

♪ baby, from the makers of lantus®, slice it right. ♪ toujeo® provides blood sugar-lowering activity ♪ baby, from the makers for 24 hours and beyond, ♪ we're gonna groove tonight. proven blood sugar control all day and all night, and significant a1c reduction. toujeo® is used to control high blood sugar in adults with diabetes. it contains 3 times as much insulin in 1 milliliter as standard insulin. don't use toujeo® to treat diabetic ketoacidosis, during episodes of low blood sugar or if you're allergic to insulin. allergic reaction may occur and may be life threatening. don't reuse needles or share insulin pens, even if the needle has been changed. the most common side effect is low blood sugar, which can be serious and life threatening. it may cause shaking, sweating, fast heartbeat, and blurred vision. check your blood sugar levels daily. injection site reactions may occur. don't change your dose of insulin without talking to your doctor. tell your doctor about all medicines you take and all your medical conditions. taking tzds with insulins, like toujeo®, may cause heart failure that can lead to death, even if you've never had heart failure before. don't dilute or mix toujeo® with other insulins or solutions as it may not work as intended

and you may lose blood sugar control, which could be serious. find your rhythm and keep on grooving. ♪ let's groove tonight. ask your doctor about toujeo®. ♪share the spice of life. ♪

loudly asked bruce, would you sign my absence note? he said, sure, i'd love to sign the absence note. >> the father of a fifth grader in philadelphia, he skipped school to meet legendary rocker bruce springsteen at a book signing. this young man did not get in trouble. he brought an absence excuse note signed by the boss. what a cool dad. >> i was going to say, not only is he a cool dad -- >> that reminds me when my mother used to do that for my sister and i.

explains a whole lot. finally, who are you going to call? >> this is a great story. you have to hope this woman in the next story silenced her phone. while we were watching the clinton-trump debate on fox news, for viewers on c-span they were given a number on the screen to reach their comment line. that number belonged to chris diaz. she said that evening there were more than 600 incoming phone calls and 13,000 texts. diaz says she's grateful she has unlimited texting on her device. >> i have a feeling, if that were you, you'd pick up the phone and have conversations with people. >> it could be a very, very long night. speaking of long nights, staying up late tonight, "saturday night live" new season, the first live show coincides with the debate. we'll see what they do with that. we'll have highlights tomorrow during the show. >> the debate on tuesday, pre

debate coverage and post debate analysis. you want to stay tuned all day tuesday. >> hopefully c-span gets the phone number right. if you want to comment on that, we'll see you next weekend. take care. well, as a new month begins we are just 38 days away from elected a new president and the stakes continue to get higher as we see fallout over this week's presidential debate with hillary clinton garnering momentum against trump whose campaign is urging him to stay on message. hello. i'm uma mem raju. our new polls are putting clinton ahead. hillary clinton now back on top by five points after trailing before the debate seen by millions. her camp says she's com