lawsuits by those governments against our people. mr. obama checked out, did zero to stop it. >> thank you. remember, if you have your own hit or miss, be sure to tweet it to us. that's it for this week's show. thanks for watching. i'm paul gigot. hope to see you right here next week. hello, everyone. welcome to a brand-new inside american election headquarters. in the news this hour, there's a new report hitting donald trump on his tax returns, suggesting he may not have paid any federal taxes for years. with the trump team this afternoon already hitting back. >> plus can hillary clinton stay on offense ahead of her second showdown with trump one week from tonight? and hurricane matthew now setting its sights on haiti, gaining strength in the caribbean. where will it go next?

we begin with plorks and donald trump's tax returns dominating the political landscape. this after "the new york times" reports trump's records from 1995 declared a nearly billion-dollar loss that could have allowed him to legally skip paying federal income taxes for almost 20 years. this only adding to the questions surrounding trump and his taxes as he still won't make those records public because of an audit. however, the irs says the audit does not mean mr. trump cannot release his returns. now, clinton's team is pouncing as trump supporters come to his defense. peter doocy live outside of trump tower in new york city with more. hi, peter. >> reporter: hi, arthel. there's really only one relevant number on the three pages of tax documents that we've seen, and that number is $916 million. it's a loss that donald trump took in 1995, and it's a big enough loss that he could have

been legally excused from paying any more federal income taxes for 18 years. now, that's not what the documents that we've seen show. that's just a conclusion that some experts familiar with tax law have arrived at. this information was first published by "the new york times," whose reporters claim not to know who mailed them these forms, which the trump campaign says were published illegally, and they add that, quote, mr. trump is a highly skilled businessman who has a fiduciary responsibility to his business, his family, and his employees to pay no more tax than legally required. that being said, mr. trump has paid hundreds of millions of dollars in property taxes, sales, and excise taxes, real estate taxes, city taxes, state taxes, employee taxes, and federal taxes along with very substantial charitable contributions. trump added today on twitter that, quote, i've created tens of thousands of jobs and will bring back great american prosperity. hillary has only created jobs at the fbi and doj. and trump's top surrogates are chiming in as well.

they say this story actually good for trump. >> if you're talking about a tax return from 1995 and all of you in the media have been saying, why don't you release the tax returns that aren't under audit? well, they're all connected because of the byzantine tax laws and the genius of donald trump has been to make sure that he follows the law, which is exactly what he's done, and politically he has said that he's going to change these laws and that there's no one who is better suited to change these laws. >> reporter: and it's not just tax talk from trump. he's also making a very aggressive push this weekend to get bernie sanders supporters on his side, really hitting hillary clinton last night at a rally in pennsylvania for comments that she made at a fund raiser where she told donors the only reason people would like bernie sanders if they were a child of the recession living in their parents' basement. trump says he thinks talk like that means she does not deserve the support of the former vermont senator's backers.

arthel. >> thanks, peter. >> hillary clinton attending sunday services at a church in charlotte. that city, as you know, still grappling with those violent protests. and the fallout from the police shooting of keith lamont scott, the black man they say brandished a gun though his family claimed it was a book. mrs. clinton addressing a predominantly black congregation earlier today in a speech that did focus on gun violence and racism. rich edson is live in charlotte with more on what mrs. clinton had to say. hi, rich. >> reporter: good afternoon, eric. hillary clinton did address that shooting here earlier today to an african-american congregation at the little rock ame zion church, in which she said too many african-american families have been in the same tragic situation, and she also noted that we must not forget that violence has touched the families of police officers as well. she then criticized her republican challenger, donald trump, on his position on race and policing.

>> there are some out there who see this as a moment to fan the flames of resentment and division, who want to exploit people's fears. say that all of our problems would be solved simply by more law and order, as if the systemic racism plaguing our country doesn't exist. >> reporter: law and order has been donald trump's refrain for some time, particularly during the republican convention as to how he's going to solve these problems. clinton was supposed to be here a week ago, but city officials asked that neither presidential candidate stop in charlotte because their police resources were being used up dealing with protests and riots. clinton is trying to convince much of the obama coalition to show up and vote for her in november. that includes younger voters and, of course, african-american voters. she performed well among them in the democratic primary.

according to fox news exit polling, a third of the democrat voters in that contest were african-american, and she won that group 80% to 19%. there are still concerns, though, that those voters will show up on general election day. meanwhile, the clinton campaign continues preparing for the second debate. this time it's the vice presidential debate tuesday in long wood, virginia. senator tim kaine, her running mate, is preparing for it. he was already in virginia. he's the senator from that state. when asked how the preparation work is going, he shrugged off concerns and said he's calm. back to you. >> we'll be watching for that debate in 48 hours or so from now. thank you. >> meanwhile, trump's biggest supporters already rushing to his defense. former new york city mayor rudy giuliani even saying this proves that mr. trump is smart enough to know our tax system and how to fix it. take a listen. >> my response is he's a genius. i mean the reality is --

>> a genius? >> absolute genius. i mean the man -- in the art of the deal, this is described. first of all, we're talking about 26 years ago. perfectly legal. we should get that straight immediately. this is a perfectly legal application of the tax code. and he would have been a fool not to take advantage of it. >> judy miller is here. she's a pulitzer prize winning author, also a fox news contributor. judy, good to see you. >> good to see you, arthel. >> let's start here. is the "new york times" report damning or much ado about nothing? >> oh, no. i think it's clearly going to hurt this candidate. as you can see from mayor giuliani's and governor chris christie's efforts to spin this into a, gosh, isn't this guy smart for not paying taxes, neekter confirming or denying

"the new york times" report by the way. look, it remains to be seen how ordinary voters will interpret this, but i think it's going to be hard for mr. trump to portray himself as a protector of the ordinary, the working guy, when ordinary working people are struggling to make ends meet and to pay their taxes and their fair share. and that's what the democrats are going to hit donald trump with again and again until this next debate. >> but as you already heard donald trump supporters are going to say, listen, this is going to prove that mr. trump knows the tax system well enough to help out the average american because he has used it to his advantage. so then he can fix it if he becomes the president and make it work for the smaller worker, if you will. >> well, that's one effort at spinning the story. another is what roger stone, another trump advisor said today, which is let's change the subject. basically he started talking

about the clinton october surprise that's coming on tuesday with the impending revelation of more bad news supposedly for hillary. i mean there are things you can do, but basically americans believe that you have to pay your taxes. and even though mr. trump has paid taxes, if he felt good about these tax forms and what he's paid, presumably he would be not violating a tradition of the past decades, which is to release your tax returns. that's what every presidential candidate has done. donald trump won't do it, and now we know why. and i think "the new york times" story, which has been widely picked up -- we're talking about it. everyone is talking about it. it really raises questions about, one, to what extent he kind of skirted the law. now, everyone says that this is not a violation of the law as far as anyone can see. but, you know, it's the same thing as creating a foundation,

which is what donald trump did, and then making donations that involve other people's money. i mean donald trump has not put any of his own money into that foundation that resulted in donations since 2008. so you see a kind of pattern of a man who is kind of just playing very close to the legal line, and i think it raises more questions about his suitability for office. that's surely the way the democrats are going to spin it. >> and this would be yet another distraction for the trump campaign. his advisors to deal with because as you said, the clinton campaign will probably try to chew on this as long as they can. >> right, and this is the second week of bad news. let's face it, that debate was very bad news which you heard first assessed on fox news as our own anchors looked at it and said this isn't a good night for him when you have to be complaining about the microphone. now you've got a second week of

bad donald trump news. when you're this close to the election, every single story like this counts. >> but, judy, if you can give me this in 30 seconds as we have to go, you know, throughout this entire campaign, virious political analysts have been saying this is bad for mr. trump, bad for mr. trump, and it never really turns out to be bad for mr. trump. what will voter ultimately make of this? will it matter to them? >> you're absolutely right, and i've been one of those people who after he attacked john mccain and attacked former president george bush said, no, no, this is never going to fly. but donald trump went on winning primaries. and yet the general election, as we all know, is a different kind of contest. so we're going to see what ordinary americans will make of this. but i think those of us who struggle every year with taxes will not look kindly upon what donald trump has done. >> judy miller, thank you. i have to leave it there, judy. take care. >> thanks. >> we have a fox extreme weather look for you about hurricane

matthew. matthew now barreling toward jamaica and haiti in the caribbean. people there taking no chances. they're stocking up on food as you can see and supplies. it's a category 4 storm right now. it's already one of the most powerful to hit the region recently. will it threaten us? senior meteorologist janice dean is in the fox extreme weather center. janice, what do you see as matthew's path? >> well, i certainly see a possibility for a catastrophic storm to hit our friends in haiti. prayers tonight because the path of this storm could be really devastating for them just looking at statistics. the last time we had a storm this strong hit haiti was hazel in 1954, and that killed 1,000 people in haiti. we're hoping that it makes more of a west ward jog. we don't want jamaica to be affected or cuba, but somebody has got to be affected by the path of this storm. so 145-mile-per-hour sustained winds makes it a category 4. coming very close to haiti over the next 24 to 48 hours.

moving through the bahamas as a cat 3 major hurricane. that could be potentially devastating for them there. and then what happens after that is anyone's guess, all right? so the past five days, we just don't know. so anywhere across the east coast, you need to be monitoring this system. here are the computer models. again, we're going to be dealing with this storm for the rest of the work week, into next weekend, maybe possibly the following week. future radar. this is going to show you what's going to happen. pretty good agreement, monday and tuesday looks like the wort side of the storm. the northeast quadrant hitting haiti. that could be devastating because 70% of this area is below poverty. they're living in tents. they're still, you know, trying to repair from the 2010 earthquake in that area. this could be catastrophic for them. that is the only word, and we could be seeing upwards of 24, even 30, 36 inches of rainfall across this area. so, you know, prayers right now

for the folks in haiti. then after that, we're going to have to watch the bahamas and then the east coast. we will be watching this very carefully, eric. back to you. >> that is so sad ask so potentially tragic for the poor people of haiti. that earthquake and the storms, they have suffered so much. so we'll be watching for it. >> meanwhile a new humanitarian effort under way in syria as clashes between government forces and rebels tear the city of aleppo apart. what's now being done to save innocent civilians? >> and dozens are killed as anti-government protests abroad turn into a stampede. what may have caused that chaos. ugh. heartburn.

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new reports of fierce fighting in and around aleppo. syrian government forces and rebels clashing over the contested city. meanwhile the humanitarian crisis deepens. a u.n. official says attacks on aleppo's hospitals have nearly obliterated the health system. the european union is now offering $25 million in emergency aid as well as manpower to move patients to other medical facilities. here's kitty logan with more. >> reporter: arthel, the syrian military is continuing to pressure opposition fighters in aleppo with attacks from the ground and from the air. today government-run tv carried a message from the syrian military to rebel fighters, asking them to disarm and leave the city. it's promised opposition forces a safe passage out and aid. but with so much at stake, that seems unlikely to happen. reports indicate fighting is intensifying with the syrian

army attacking from the eastern side of the city. now, aleppo is, of course, syria's largest city, and both sides are desperately fighting to control it. currently it's divided between government and rebel-held areas with thousands of civilians still trapped in the city. russian air strikes are backing that syrian government offensive. a key hospital in the city has now been hit several times according to reports. the u.n. says medical facilities are almost completely destroyed now. it wants a temporary cease-fire to get some aid in. the eu is now offering to evacuate the injured. it is unclear how that would happen without that pause in the fighting. there is still dialogue between russia and the u.s. about the crisis despite the difference of opinion between the two countries. secretary kerry spoke to the russian foreign minister sergey lavrov again by phone on saturday. if assad's forces could recapture aleppo, it may well change the course of the war, which is why this is likely to

be a brutal battle. arthel. >> kitty logan, thanks. >> so how can this unspeakable carnage stop? the united nations estimates that 275,000 people right now remain trapped in aleppo. can they be saved? joining us now sds jim wallace, international security expert for mit securities program. jim, this is just beyond comprehension. we saw a little boy running from the bombing in a smoke-filled street. right at this moment, families are sitting in dark rooms. they have no electricity. they are waiting for the bombs to fall and wondering if they're going to die, and the world and we are helpless to stop russia and syria. what specifically, if anything, can we do? >> unfortunately, eric, you're right. it's not just a humanitarian crisis. i think it's a set of war crimes. certainly by the syrian government has repeatedly committed war crimes during this war using chemical weapons and bombs. i think there's strong evidence

that russia has violated international law. bombing hospitals, targeting civilians, that is a complete break with, you know, international law or decency. the u.s. has air power, but it does not have troops on the ground and hard for it to materially affect what's going on. the u.s. mission there right now is counterterrorism. it's going after isis, and has not yet adopted a mission of targeting the syrian government. but even if it did, there's only so much you can do with air power, and we don't have a lot of friends on the ground to have a coordinated response like we do in iraq, where we have the iraqi government and the kurds. >> what about like sanctioning russia or putting the pressure on vladimir putin? he's done this before. in chesh nia, reports of bombing civilians, bombing indiscriminately, flattening and leveling cities. you talk about war crimes. those big buster bombs

reportedly falling on aleppo, those are for military installations, and they only come from russia. >> absolutely. you were right to point to crimes in chechnya and elsewhere. i think it's terrible, but it's hard to know what can be done materially to change it right now. you mentioned sanctions. yes on sanctions, but let's -- i need to be honest with you on that. as russia weighs the, you know, increased sanctions versus its national interests in syria, it's probably going to continue to do what it's doing in syria, sanctions or no sanctions. it doesn't mean we shouldn't impose them. we should. but we shouldn't expect them to change russian behavior in the near term. >> they're being shamed by our united states ambassador in the security council. doesn't stop them. john kerry talked about cutting off ties in talks with the syrian situation. i mean what's that going to do? >> well, unfortunately there are not many good options. again, i think it's worth looking at sanctions, but that's

not going to change russian behavior. the russians have an advantage. they're working with the central government in syria. the government is on their side. in iraq, we're working with the central government, and that's why we're able to make progress against isis. but we're in a very, very different situation in syria where we -- the government is with the russians, and those who oppose the government include lots and lots of violent extremists, which we don't have many friends. so, again, when you go into these things, you have to say, what's your objective? what's your likelihood of success? what's it going to cost? to most of those questions, there are not good military answers, which is why most of the military is opposed to deeper involvement directly in that civil war. >> and finally, could there be potential action in the international criminal court? "the washington post" had a front-page piece the other day. let me read you one paragraph of that. it is just astounding about what's going on there. this is from people there. quote, sometimes we hear the

pilot tell his base, we see a market for the terrorists. there is a bakery for the terrorists. is it okay to hit them? they say, okay, hit them. every time they use the adjective terrorist, is devastating and depressing beyond belief. you are pulling corpses from the rubble. you don't know if one day that body will belong to your sister, your brother, or your friend. i mean can't -- in the future, potential charges be brought or, as i said at the beginning of this segment, sadly we again have another level of carnage that's just totally beyond belief. >> eric, i hope so. i hope those responsible, including assad and including russians giving those orders are held accountable before the international criminal court and face sanctions, imprisonment, and all the punishments they deserve. it's more likely that that will happen to the leader of a smaller country like syria than of a major player like russia, but i would certainly support that. >> jim walsh, thank you for your

insight as this tragedy continues. we'll stay on it. >> thank you, eric. >> arthel. >> eric, dozens of people are dead as they were curbed to death during a stampede in ei ethiop ethiopia. the chaos was reportedly sparked after police fired rubber bullets into a crowd of anti-government protesters at a religious festival. local hospitals report at least 52 people dead with that number likely to increase. >> as we've been reporting on, the hillary clinton, donald trump showdown today, the taxes and all the other issues, these two guys are going to face off in just over 48 hours from now. it will be the vice presidential debate on tuesday. we'll take a look at how that can potentially affect the race. >> plus we will drill down into that "new york times" report about donald trump's taxes. will it impact him in the polls? our political panel will weigh in on that. >> this is a guy who when lots

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donald trump's critics accusing him of not paying his taxes. top supporters defending him today after "the new york times" report claims that he had claimed a $916 million loss, almost a billion dollars, in a 1995 tax return. the paper says that possibly allowed him to avoid paying federal taxes for nearly 20 years. so what will the fallout be from this tax controversy? as the clinton campaign continues to call on mr. trump to make public all of his tax returns something, as you know, all the other major presidential candidates have done for decades. joining us now, brian robinson, former communications director

for georgia governor nathan deal, and jessica ehrlich, democratic strategist and former democratic congressional candidate. welcome to you both. brian, let me start with you. rudy giuliani, chris christie called mr. trump a genius today because of this tax issue, or is he a hypocrite? >> well, i wouldn't say he's a genius. i would say that he's super wealthy. i think you will find that if everyone released their tax returns, the super wealthy in america aren't paying what the rest of us are paying in taxes, at least on a percentage share basis. to say he's genius isn't really i think all that accurate. his accountant is probably pretty good, and the tax lawyers that he has around him are excellent as are those of most of the super wealthy in this country. >> but the other super wealthy, they're not running for president. here we could potentially have the first presidential nominee in the history of this country, since income taxes were imposed first in 1913, who may not pay taxes. brian? >> as i've said on your show

before, i believe that our nominee should release his taxes just as i believe that hillary clinton should release her e- hillary clinton should take donald trump up on his offer from the debate. notice that she didn't respond to that at all in the debate, saying if you release your e-mails that alleged will have been deleted, that are allegedly not classified, that are allegedly not official, then i'll release my taxes. >> jessica, is that -- >> let's see her do it. >> jessica, is that a legitimate argument from the democratic side? how do you think this will potentially hurt mr. trump if it does? >> i mean it's not an apples to apples argument in that sense because as you said, we haven't had a presidential nominee since prior to even 1980 who didn't release their tax returns. we've never had anyone who has released all of their e-mails, let everyone in to see what their communications are about their daughter's wedding or any of those sorts of things. so it's not really an equivalent argument there. it's a false equivalency.

however, it's interesting. i mean people were really in uproar when mitt romney, you know, finally revealed his tax returns, and he was only paying 14% tax rate. but at least he was paying taxes, and he was really hit hard because of the type of business he was in. but he still was a very wealthy man who gave a lot to charity and gave a lot of success to his partnership that he was in. whether or not you agreed with him dismantling corporations and putting people out of jobs. well, donald trump is someone -- i mean to say he's a job creator when all of the people that were affected from the bankruptcies, the contractors, the people who lost their jobs, the unemployment, i mean it's just epic. and then he pays zero in taxes. it's kind of shocking, and yet his supporters think he's a genius. they don't see anything -- it's an interesting dynamic. >> where is the uproar, the firestorm you expect would come from finding out that a presidential nominee may not pay

any taxes. >> let me tell you about the false equivalency. where it's not equivalent, even "the new york times" acknowledges that not releasing your taxes and using the tax code to not pay any taxes is legally. they buried that in the store, but it's there. where it's not the same as what hillary clinton did is illegal. again, even "the new york times" would acknowledge that. >> no one has said that that's actually the opposite of what, you know, the fbi has said all of the investigations, the multiple hearings, and everyone that's looked into this. what no one has been able to look into are his taxes. >> it was illegal. >> it is a different -- it's a different thing. neither one of them has done anything illegal here. you know, but the problem is trump's tax plan does not address the loopholes that allow him to not pay taxes. >> jessica, this may not be a loophole. his supporters say it's the law. you know, you can get these deductions. you can take it off his business expense. bottom line, do you think this will have long-term resonance?

he has attacked wealthy people who have not paid taxes before. he had called it ridiculous in the past. >> absolutely. absolutely. you know, that's part of the issue. he's talking about corporations who are going overseas so that they can avoid taxes, but he's basically doing the same thing. so, you know, yes, it's the pot calling the kettle black. can he fix that? i don't know. i don't think it will affect his supporters. where he needs to gain in order to actually become president is with swing voters, and i don't see this really, you know, helping their decision in terms of, oh, is that someone that they want to vote for. >> brian, last word. >> i agree that this is not an issue that donald trump needs or wants to be talking about. he needs to pivot back to jobs and the economy. hillary clinton set a not so clever trap for him in the debate. he walked into it and then refused to get out of it. we need to pivot back to an attack on hillary. americans care more about her breaking the law and how she used her e-mails than they do about taxes. we know that from polling. he needs to be focused on that.

>> all right. we'll see if he's focused on that one week from tonight, when the next presidential debate will be. thank you for weighing in on this. >> thank you. >> arthel. >> eric, meanwhile vice presidential nominee senator tim kaine and governor mike pence are getting ready for their turn in the spotlight. the two running mates will face off in their one night only debate on tuesday. and in this unpredictable race, the impact of their showdown could be sizeable. garrett tenny has more. >> reporter: arthel, you can expect this vice presidential debate to look a lot different than what we saw last week between donald trump and hillary clinton. clinton's running mate, virginia senator tim kaine, describes himself as boring. and trump's number two, indiana governor mike pence calls himself a b-list republican celebrity. historically vice presidential debates have had little impact on the election, neither candidate is taking it for granted we're told you can expect to see two strategies unfold. pence will spend a lot of time going after hillary clinton,

particularly for her e-mail scandals and the appearance of corruption between her state department and the clinton foundation. >> the truth of the matter is specifically to hillary clinton, it's important that we talk about the record. and i'm looking forward to that debate on tuesday night because this election is about -- it is about a choice. and people need to think really hard about the record that hillary clinton brings on the foreign stage. >> reporter: on the other side, kaine is expected to force pence to defend many of donald trump's controversial statements, including recent comments about a former miss universe contestant who trump criticized for gaining weight. after running through several mock debates this week, kaine says he's feeling confident. >> so it's good. i mean, you know, just got to be myself, but i'll look forward to seeing you down there on tuesday. >> it's intense, but, you know, i'm calm. things work out the say they're supposed to. i'm calm. >> reporter: tim kaine will have a bit of a home field advantage in this debate, which is being hosted at long wood university in farmville, virginia. remember, you can catch the entire 90-minute debate right

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pre-amble for potential intrusion activities as well as some attempted intrusions at voter registration bases beyond those we knew about in july and august. we are urging the states to make sure their deadbolts are thrown. there's no doubt some bad actors have been poking around. >> more with morgan wright, cybersecurity analyst and a senior fellow at the center for digital government. morgan, thanks so much. >> you bet, arthel. >> first question to you is can americans be assured that with 37 days before the election, that there will not be any hacking going on, their votes are safe and will be registered properly? >> a short answer, no. if somebody tells you that they can give you 100% assurance that nothing will happen, they're wrong, and i'll tell you why. we have case after case. we've had major data breaches, everything from the opm breach. we've got banks with some of the

smoe smoeft sophisticated technology being breached. we have to adopt the mind set we know this is going on, these reconnaissance activities are going on. we have to have the intelligence we need to respond quickly, defend the most likely avenues of attack, what they call the attack services, the vectors and make sure we can respond. we want the fastest fire department on the block should something happen. >> meanwhile, i want to go here. fbi director james comey also saying his agency is looking very, very, very hard at russian hackers who may try to disrupt the u.s. election. i mean could they succeed? are our voting systems that vulnerable? >> yes, they are. you know, some of these systems that are supposed to be electronic are over ten years old, some of the software isn't probably up to date in terms of today's standards. think if we had 50 water sflies. i don't have to contaminate all 50 supplies. i just have to contaminate one and make you think the rest are contaminated as well. if they get to one database,

impact one area of the election, you can now cast doubt on the rest of the output in the processes. then people will start wondering did my vote get counted correctly? do i have a say in the outcome of this election? that's going to be the biggest thing. then politically is how do we respond should we detect that happen something. >> or even if they don't actually get to even one voting machine like you were talking about, just the idea that it's out there, that is part of the whole idea of terror. we're talking about cyber terror. >> right. >> but on that note, is america losing the cybersecurity war, and if so, to whom? and what will it take to get up to speed, have the best cybersecurity strategy in the world? >> i love college football, watching it eddy. we're great on offense. we don't want talk about what we do on offense. but we stink on defense. you can't imagine a coach saying, hey, this year we're going to be great on offense, but our defense stinks. we have to do some basic things like the use of encryption on data at rest and in motion, use of better passwords.

there's ways to create better passwords, what they call and also multi factor authentication. arthel, if we just did some basic stuff, we could make a big impact. but some of this is policy driven. some of this is holding the heads of federal agencies now accountable, not just the agency, but actually holding people accountable. >> let's see. homeland security jeh johnson spoke to state election officials by phone last month, encouraging them to implement existing technical recommendations to secure their election systems and ensure that electronic voting machines are not connected to the internet. >> absolutely. look, you know, we have unintended consequences. we're seeing that now in the internet of things. the worldest largest attack was launched using dvrs, recorders. we know that if it can shall touch the, the internet, it can be hacked. there's a lot of guidance out there. they need to throw which deadbolts to throw according to director comey, but a lot of

information they need to secure their systems is available out there. they just need to use it. >> we leave it there. thank you very much, morgan. take care. >> we have an investigation on this coming up on bret baier's special show tonight. we'll be looking at poll watchers at 8:00 p.m. eastern time. meanwhile, what does an asian-american rock band from oregon and an nfl team have in common? they're both waiting for their day in court on cases that pit free speech against concerns about racial insensitivity. >> and protesters in over yet another police-involved shooting, this time a teenager is killed in a run-in with officers. the latest coming up in a live report. ♪ is depression more than sadness? ♪ it's a tangle of multiple symptoms.

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>> and los angeles county medical exam enidentify an african-american teen who was kill yesterday by the los angeles pass and a protest watt the home of the los angeles mayor. here are the details. >> we expect more police protests after the latest officer involved shooting in southern california, in south los angeles. the officers say they tried to pull over a suspected stolen car because it had a paper license plate. the care took off and a teen and

another suspect jumped out. they made a run for it. the 18-year-old was behind a house. he was ultimately shot and killed. police recovered a handgun from the scene. the teen who was shot is 18-year-old, and% not elaborating what led to the shooting. and the snell family wants answers leading to protests in south los angeles the overnight, the mayor's home and car were egged. we expect more protests at his house later today. they are not the only ones that we have seen in southern california. hundreds this weekend have marched? el ask honey near san diego after police shot a man in a shooting stance and 14 were arrested we overnight. >> thank you. arthel? >> some cases on hot button issues are still waiting to their day in the nation's highest court. the supreme court putting those

cases on hold after the death of scalia, and now, more, from washington. >> right new we are waiting in the wings several cases on liely contentious issues, involving the rights of transgender people, immigration, and voter identification. so far, none of the cases are on the docket for the new term. largely because the eight justices want to wait until the 9th seat is filled before taking on the hot button issues. >> they are trying to shy away from the really controversial issues which, frankly, it is a good. sometimes they simply do not have a close in there is an important issue working its way thrust court system, they may not have the choice whether to take it on in the circuit courts are split. >> the biggest cases that is on the docket for the new term is the leader of an asian-american rock band from oregon called slants and they wanted to trademark their band's name but the request was denied because the patent and trademark office

thought it was racially disparageing to asian-americans. they sued and a federal appeals court ruled in their favor. does this part of the federal trademark law that bans offensive names, violate the first am? the slants think it ask and so do the washington redskins. they lost their trademark for a similar reason and the owner has appealed but so far, the justices have only agreed to take up the band's case but the outcome of the case will likely determine in the redskins will lose their trademark for good. >> thank you. >> we will be right back with a special campaign treat. eartburn. sorry ma'am. no burning here. try new alka-seltzer heartburn relief gummies. they don't taste chalky and work fast. mmmm. incredible. can i try? she doesn't have heartburn. new alka-seltzer heartburn relief gummies. enjoy the relief.

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"i'll tell you what" is next. >> we will see new an hour after chris and day that. thank you for spend your die with the fox in fact channel. chris and dana and "i'll tell you what" start right now. >> >> hello, everyone, welcome to "i'll tell you what" and we have a lot of ground to cover this evening including latest polls and a look at north carolina, and could be biggest factor and dana will try to stump me with presidential trivia. >> in doubt. the top headlines of the day, first, a wild end to donald trump's taxing week as the republican nominee fights back after the not fat reports he have avoided federal income for almost two decades. meanwhile, hillary clinton